 You too team keep it clean what's going on is engraving here with another video and in this video we got a conversation that we got to have when I initially saw this report I was like yikes then I saw it came from Jason Lockham for and I was like yikes but at the same time I remember I say wait a minute I remember Jason Lockham for before his credibility was kind of like and I know amongst a lot of people that still kind of like but then I thought wait a minute when's the last time I really heard anything from Jason Lockham for and the last thing that I remember that I recall from Jason Lockham for was when he started dropping reports about the whole Earl Thomas and Chuck Clark thing and that the Ravens they all met together and they were like you know what we want Earl Thomas like the end of Team Keep it Clean videos out and then boom you know the rest of the story. So it was at that point where I was like okay JLC maybe your credibility that was once shot before okay maybe a side but regardless I know people still they reserve their own judgment when it comes to the validity of JLC his reporting his comments and then of course with this article but what we're gonna do we're not only gonna touch on this article but we're gonna go over some different reports that we've all been hearing from different media outlets different media personalities and whatnot and we're gonna really discuss this whole Lamar Jackson thing of course if you've seen the thumbnail if you've seen that section of the report it sounded crazy like the Ravens offer Lamar Jackson's like 35 million a year that's absolutely disrespectful and if that is true it is very distrust it is extremely disrespectful this is something that the Ravens they cannot get this thing wrong whatever happens with Lamar Jackson moving forward in the Baltimore Ravens they cannot get this thing wrong they can reason why because it's Lamar Jackson he's not just no average player and that's of course no disrespect to any players in the league because they're there I'm obviously not I mean I could be there I could probably be a good offensive lineman Ravens you ain't got a draft nobody just signed me but anyway um it's Lamar Jackson so if they don't get this thing uh right with Lamar Jackson so many players not only around the Ravens but so many players around the league would look at it and would see like oh that's how the Ravens did you and you did all that for them and you was on that cheap rookie deal for that long and you did all that and that's what that's what they did for you no nope I ain't feeling that squad I ain't feeling that team so that's why it's kind of hard for me to believe that they would do something like this but then at the same time in business business can be nasty and an employer is only gonna excuse me an employee is only gonna let the employer get away with what they let them get away with until they stand up and be like no no you ain't doing that you ain't getting away with that I can't let you do that no no no no I can't it's not happening so but in this case with Lamar Jackson being his own agent something that uh it has been a conversation on a lot of people's minds especially recently but with Lamar Jackson being his own agent he gets to choose when where the conversation is had he gets to say okay I agree to that okay no I don't agree to that and he has that direct line of communication with Eric DeCosta with the Baltimore Ravens he has that direct line to where it doesn't have to go through a middleman he gets paid by them he doesn't have the old agent they go to agent feet no no no no no no he gets paid by them and all of that money it goes directly to him but so many people they have tried to twist this thing to make it like it's a bad thing that Lamar Jackson is his own agent say oh he doesn't have any experience oh he doesn't know what he's doing oh uh a contract of this magnitude what is he thinking him and mama Jackson they can't do this how do you know I was just in a Twitter space a couple of minutes ago and somebody brought up a really good point about Lamar Jackson and his mom they talked about how they've been doing this for a while he hasn't obviously hasn't had an agent but literally nothing that they have done has blown up in their face nothing that they have done being their own agents it has nothing that's gone wrong so why stop there why sell yourself short and people often when it comes to Lamar Jackson a lot of people they treat Lamar Jackson like he's stupid they treat Lamar Jackson like he just oh since he doesn't talk the normal way or what and oh he don't know what he's talking about he definitely ain't gonna be able to do no hmm whoa this guy if you know anything about Lamar Jackson you know he is far from stupid and he is about his bread I mean he was on uninterrupted like we all watched and we enjoyed the episode and he's talking about two of his goals as a professional he said he wants to be a billionaire so you know he about his money so if this report is real then you know he ain't taking on like that but he said he wants to be a billionaire and he wants to be a champion and those two things they they can be accomplished but we'll see what happens with the A appreciate that Jake thank you for even coming through and I appreciate everybody for coming through as we have this conversation about one Lamar Jackson but you know what let's go ahead and jump into the article so we can start breaking this stuff all the way down so again it did come from Jason La Confora it starts off it said forget what you think you know about Lamar Jackson's stalemate with the Baltimore Ravens uh drop all pretense about what him not having formal negotiation negotiating representation tends to indicate step beyond the common narratives for a moment if you will about power and knowledge and leverage as it pertains to a 25 year old generational athlete foregoing an agent as his rookie contract expires uh and just a quick reminder we all know that Lamar Jackson is entering the fifth year the fifth year option of his rookie deal I appreciate that Ravens pride thank you man but he's entering the fifth year of his rookie contract fifth year option so before he was playing for pennies he's playing for like a little one million dollars here one million dollars there but now his cap is 23 mil it's 23 mil and it's guaranteed so yeah he's getting his breath anyway consider the possibility that despite his age and lack of any prior negotiating experience Jackson might have positioned himself as well as possible given what the team has been willing to offer thus far and perhaps an argument can be made at this point given the magnitude of what he has accomplished thus far and his importance to the franchise that not having an agent working on his behalf may actually benefit the quarterback in certain aspects so from that first paragraph Jason La Confora is letting me letting it be known that oh so maybe Lamar Jackson not having an agent isn't such a bad thing like so many people make it out to be one of the things when it comes to this deal right now this contract right now that a lot of people have been saying like man why Lamar Jackson why isn't his deal done he needs to get the deal done this deal should have been done if he would have had an agent then this deal would have been done and Lamar Jackson he just been doing his thing posting little videos here and there working out or whatever throwing a ball around showing that oh i'm just focused on football that's it focusing on football but they've tried to take that what they normally would speak about in a positive light or a positive aspect about a player focusing on football instead of focusing on money instead of focusing on contract and they've taken that and they've tried to spin it they've tried to spin it if you're old since this Lamar Jackson and he doesn't have his deal done yet he needs to be focusing on that deal and not focusing on football like when have you heard craziness like that before so where people get on somebody in a negative way for them focusing on football instead of focusing on that contract because we know if i take you back to last season oh remember all the craziness and the hoopla and the shenanigans with Aaron Rodgers and that whole deal with his contract i know nobody forgot about that because it was all over every single day we heard Aaron Rodgers this Aaron Rodgers that and now we're starting to get back to that we're starting to get back to that so that can be an even bigger distraction when people are just taking you for this ride with the contract what are they gonna do they don't want to show up they don't show up to the last second and it can be a distraction when people are actually focusing on that contract but Lamar has let it be known yeah i'm trying to get better of course you know again he is about his breath so the money's gonna come regardless the the money is it's gonna be there it's it ain't going nowhere but it's just funny how media they try to twist that so just watch out for stuff like that anyway continuing it said if you're under the impression that Jackson is some naive out of his depth disengaged vessel in terms of his contract you will be incorrect numerous sources close to this situation indicated he is quite well versed in the NFL quarterback financial landscape and league sources also indicated the Ravens have never the Ravens have never presented an offer in the stratosphere of the 40 to 45 million dollar per year that other top young quarterbacks have secured so he was saying Jason Lockham Ford he's saying from whoever his sources may be he's saying and we hope this is one of those things where i know a lot of Ravens found a lot of people in here like oh man Jason Lockham Ford now that's garbage he's lying he ain't telling the truth it ain't real his sources ain't nothing but i know in the back of your minds you're like really hoping and some of y'all probably even praying that this is not true i know and i know that in the back of your minds and even in the front a lot of your minds you're scared that it could be and that is a legitimate concern that you should have that it could be true you would hope that it's not but i know there's legitimate concern but anyway back to what it was saying uh it says league sources also indicated the Ravens have never presented an offer in the stratosphere of the 40 to 45 million dollar per year that other top young QBs have secured instead focusing on long-term deals five years or more closer to 35 mil a year oh again if that's true which we hope it isn't we we really hope it isn't because if that was true that would not be a good look it would not be a good look but again hopefully it's not true but then you know you worried about it what what if that's real and if that is real that is the ultimate sign of disrespect that's the ultimate slap in the face it would be the ultimate slap in the face from the Ravens to Lamar Jackson oh 40 to 45 now 35 there you go 35 how about that and this is where you can begin to question the validity of the report because it's like man what the Raven would they really offer something at low would they really offer something that cheap 40 i mean 35 meal for Lamar Jackson really would they do that but then you think about what the situation is because nothing has come out that has let us know how much Lamar Jackson has possibly been offered there has been absolutely nothing we know Q talked about it quadri ishmael he talked about it but he didn't give any specific numbers all he said was that the Ravens they offer Lamar Jackson generational wealth and again that wasn't something that he said one time was like okay i hope nobody heard it no he stood by it because he said it uh on twitter and even sarah ellison she talked about it that he said it then when we were all in that spaces that night shout out to him and sarah ellison by the way he spoke on it again uh and then i know or shout out to glennon jane when he was on that channel he spoke about it again so he is 10 toes down on that that the Ravens offer Lamar Jackson generational wealth but he didn't say how much but this jason locking forward jlc he apparently knows how much apparently and that is i mean both of those reports they will go hand in hand because 35 meal per year that is generational wealth that's a lot of money especially to us a little regular people but 35 meal per year is a lot of money that could change your life like that just whatever the signing bonus alone would be it would it could change your life like that but then for you to get that annually oof it's a whole lot of money but if that's the case i mean there hasn't been a deal that's been agreed to yet Lamar Jackson's still on that fifth year option so if they did offer him 35 meal per year which would just be well yuck slapping the face he obviously hasn't agreed to it so it's not like anything there's not anything right now that could shut those reports down except history except history and the reason i say except history is because of recent deals that the ravens have done uh we look at marlin humphrey marlin humphrey uh they they just paid him a whole lot of money a couple years ago uh it was not the top quarter back i mean excuse me corner back money but it was like just under that just under that just under jalen ramsey's deal because jalen ramsey had got his deal in a little while after marlin humphrey he got his and his came under jalen ramsey's ronnie stanley ronnie stanley uh they just paid him a few years back as well when they paid ronnie stanley um his deal was not the top left tackle money it wasn't the the top deal for a left tackle because at the time larry me tonsil's deal was more the the average per year was higher but when they paid ronnie stanley it was close to the top of the market but it was just right under larry me tonsil's so that that's just something to think about because obviously ronnie stanley marlin humphrey those are some of the ravens top players and they gave them their second contracts and they were some pretty big contracts and while they didn't necessarily reset the market uh they were very close to market value and then when you think um when you think about joe flacco we of course know joe flacco he played for those four years and then the ravens they wanted to resign him after those four years like hey flack we want you here we don't want you to go anywhere but the ravens and joe linner and flacco they they couldn't come to an agreement on the contract and flacco hey let's just play it out let's let's play out this this fifth year this deal and we'll see how it goes so okay cool let's run it and then you know the rest of the story but when joe flacco got paid they he got paid the top of the line money at quarterback and i know a lot of people go well flacco didn't deserve it no he deserved it um he didn't the type of quarterback he was it didn't change anything he was always the same quarterback always before and after anquan bolden was there he was always the same type of quarterback where in regular season but then playoffs oh yeah okay let's go so joe flacco did not change before after the contract at all he did not change now around him a lot of stuff changed around him for sure but joe flacco quarterback did not change you knew what you were getting with joe flacco you knew who you were getting with joe flacco and joe flacco gave you exactly that again regular season but playoffs after the first couple years oh yeah he took off but my point is that joe flacco he did earn his money because he bet on himself and that bet paid off he cashed in on that bet he won and he became the highest paid quarterback in the league not once but twice two times because it was in 2016 i believe it was 2016 where they redid his contract because it was always known that once joe flacco because it was a six-year deal it was a six-year deal and it was always known that after three years excuse me that the ravens were going to redo joe flacco's contract because then it was after the three years that the numbers they just started going crazy so they did that they gave him like this like 44 million dollar signing bonus something like that and for a short period in time joe flacco was once again in 2016 you can go look it up just in case i got my years wrong but i'm pretty sure it was 2016 because i believe it was after he was coming off of his season ending injury in 2015 but again look it up for yourself just in case i messed up some numbers uh but in 2016 they signed him to uh they reworked his deal and then for a short period of time he became the highest paid quarterback in the league again now did he deserve it a second time probably not but the ravens are like hey we always planned on redoing this deal anyway so let's just get it out the way and then we'll go from there we need some cap room we gotta move some things around all right cool so my point is when i say all of that is that with when it came to them paying joe flacco they did it they did it and he of course won the superbowl so he got all his bread um so with lamar jackson if this report was true this is one of the only things again history kind of goes against uh this report when it comes to them possibly offering him 34 35 meal per year oh we really hope that that is not the case it it better not be it can't be because that that would be a big yuck anyway let's keep moving he said there's plenty of chatter at the scouting combine about the impasse between jackson and the team that moved up at the end of the first round to select them in 2018 at a time when so many teams are desperate to find an answer at quarterback and with so few options abounding and desperation spreading many agents and executives are trying to handicap the end game of this scenario in baltimore any star quarterback has a very big reach as those deals tend to reset markets and open new opportunities for others to follow but the more plugged in industry sources i spoke with during what amounts to football's winter meetings in indy the more convinced i became that one outcome jackson is willing to pursue is decidedly a homage to the past and let's see what he's talking about yeah exactly josh he had just won a superbowl with flacco so yeah he had him he said what if and this is where it gets even more fun right here oh it's this way it gets really fun in this article he says what if short of the ravens paying him like the top two quarterbacks in the game on his terms lamar jackson is content to play out 2022 on his 23 male fifth year option see and this this is what i think is happening i do do not see him signing a deal this off i don't see it man i do not see it at all i don't see him signing a deal this year but anyway continuing i said what if jackson is content to play out the fifth year option at 23 male and then let the ravens franchise tag him the following two years to facilitate him becoming the rarest of rare nfl commodities a megastar quarterback on the open market before age 30 so um what he was saying with the franchise tag you can only franchise tag a player two times after that you either come out and come to an agreement to a long-term deal or they gotta walk they're free agents you cannot franchise franchise tag a player three times two times is the max and what the franchise tag is the the the franchise tag is uh the franchise tag is the average of the top five players salaries at that particular position it's the average of the top five so whatever the top five quarterbacks make at that time when you want to franchise tag lamar jackson if it even gets there then that's what he would get for one year he would get the average of those top five qb salaries for one year that'd be a lot of money but see the thing about that is with the franchise tag you with with contracts you you could maneuver around contracts you could play with salary cap with all that but with franchise tag mm-hmm ain't no playing with that there is absolutely no playing when it comes to franchise tags you franchise tags are fully guaranteed you have to pay that whole thing out the whole thing ain't no cutting corners with the franchise tags so if the franchise tag is for 44 mil that's how much that quarterback is going to count on the cap so if it gets to franchise tag level Raven's better hope it doesn't get there they better hope it doesn't get there because that's when things can get very very ugly very ugly and you don't want it to get ugly you really don't because again friendly reminder like we were saying earlier teammates friends other players on different teams everybody's looking at this everybody's watching how this situation is going to unfold what's going to happen next and then Lamar Jackson and Raven's contract saga what's going to go down next everybody is seeing this everybody again Lamar Jackson is obviously a household name people know who he is so everybody is seeing how this whole contract negotiation is is going so all eyes are on the Ravens all eyes are on Lamar Jackson and whatever happens is going to be big but let's get back they said what if unlike say a Patrick Mahones who locked in on an unprecedented 10 year extension with the Chiefs two years ago what if Jackson is more focused on a short-term deal to maximize leverage and compensation what if three years sounds much more attractive to him than six years let alone 10 years what if he's looking at going the Kirk Cousins route and playing out the two franchise tags then capture a fully guaranteed three-year deal only at today's prices oh that would be a lot of money there's risk involved but if you bet on yourself and that pays off that's a lot of money because again fifth year option 23 mil fully guaranteed if they franchise tag him next year whatever that my number is it'd be fully guaranteed then if they franchise tag him the following year whatever that number would be it would be fully guaranteed and then at that point you're a free agent after that second franchise tag no matter what so you could either work out a deal with the Ravens or work out a deal with somebody else but then it's your choice but anyway I said what if he's willing to gamble on himself to a degree almost all NFL players shun if cousins a second-tier quarterback was able to secure three years oh an 84 mil fully guaranteed from the Vikings in 2018 that's a lot of money then what would a talent like Lamar Jackson an MVP at age 22 be worth on the open market in 2025 with the gambling money pouring in and the league's media deals continuing to set records and guys in the broadcast booth now getting 18 mil a year who's making that much money from commentating hey NFL let me know man let me know you I'll take half of that 18 mil a year in the to work in the booth for what 17 games and then play out what man set 18 mil a year like man and somebody like no no I ain't even gonna say that anyway um that's where I think this is going said one top agent who has negotiated numerous big quarterback deals and who's monitoring this situation as closely as possible given its impact on future QB contracts uh I hear he is looking at a three-year deal something short short term it's always about the money and they aren't close on that but it's also about the terms he's already played for almost nothing uh 1.7 mil base salary last year wow they had Lamar for nasty cheap uh and he's getting 23 mil fully guaranteed this year you think he's scared of a franchise tag I keep hearing he's looking at Kirk Cousins so hey if Lamar Jackson looking at Kirk Cousins okay I could see that because again Kirk Cousins got his bread and ain't ain't Kirk Cousins number eight and he wears a purple jersey too so maybe that's why Lamar anyway um but yeah Kirk Cousins he played them franchise tags under the commanders uh uh well it's gonna take some getting used to saying that but he played his franchise tag under them and then he ended up hitting it left into the Vikings and Vikings paid him a lot a lot of money um one NFL contract negotiator for a team in need of quarterback said Lamar has them by the throat whether he knows it or not and I get the impression that he does they can't carry him at 23 mil against the cap on his fifth year option that's this year and do anything meaningful and free agency and they there aren't any quarterbacks out there so trust me we're looking at all of them so I wonder if this guy if this contract negotiator who said that if uh if he's been he's talking about the commanders because you know commanders they been looking at everybody I don't know if you all heard that report that came out yesterday I think that said Washington had even called the chiefs about Patrick Mahomes and I remember when um I remember when I heard that I was like what I was like I ain't mad at them I ain't mad at them calling the chiefs about Patrick Mahomes because the worst that somebody could say is no the worst somebody could say is no but then I thought about it I was like hold then I read an article that talked about it and it said that they will they were trying to call everybody I was like oh okay it ain't that big a deal that ain't that ain't no big deal um but anyway continuing we're almost done with this by the way uh I said of course we're a long way from that outcome right now but life comes at you fast and I reckon Jackson is more resolute and stuck in in than most and in this case not having an agent may aid him or may aid his cause to some degree uh and Jason Lockham four also said this I'll let you in on a dirty little secret agents don't get paid unless a deal is done and in many cases a player is urged to sign something less than ideal out of fear of injury or fear of the agent losing the client or to keep the agent in the good graces of that owner to grease the wheels for that next extension for his other clients on the team I like that and I appreciate that because I didn't know that I guess it's like lawyers like with like different cases and whatnot if you don't win if you don't get the bread then the lawyer don't get paid so that's that but in this case I didn't know it was like that for agents I had no clue about that did y'all I did not know that at all um but yeah so he said that the agents don't get paid unless the deal is done and then sometimes they'll try to get these players to sign the deals sign deals that may be worth a little bit less just so they could keep rubbing shoulders and bumping elbows with the owners and stuff so they could still be buddy buddy with the owners because a lot of these agents and this happens a lot of times where agents have multiple players that they represent on the same team so usually if you can get a deal done with one or four one then you can get a deal done for another one and it just makes the process a lot smoother so that would uh that would make a lot of sense man that would make a whole lot of sense I said in teams are far more willing to rip and shred and poke holes in their most important player when they are doing it through a third party and not directly to the player and his mother and that third party when paid by the player has uh whoa I don't know what that is has an obligation to be available and engage with the team and hear them out uh by and large having representation is advisable but it is far from mandatory and I wouldn't use that decision to discount Jackson's formidable negotiating negotiating position so yes that is something that um Mike that was a good point that Mike Florio brought out about uh in a in a whole another thing that we're going to go over that too about Lamar Jackson and the Ravens because with this whole contract talk um if the Ravens were like if they wanted to be like I Lamar we don't think you're worth this we think that this could happen to you we don't like when you do this you do this too often so that brings your value down to us normally if the Ravens would do that or say that about a player they will be letting all that information be known to the player's agent then the agent could relay that information to the player but here like if you got something bad about him that you want to say you got to say it directly to him because ain't no middleman ain't no agents so you have to be literally straightforward you have to be straightforward with Lamar because he is his own agent he's his own agent so you can't be like oh well uh no you gotta tell him how are you feeling whatever you feeling that way about you have to let him know directly you have to let him know directly so that's um something that's pretty serious right there uh and this says I hate to say it and I wish he had an agent but I think he has played this really well said one top NFL agent who remains nameless uh when you do this for a living you have to follow certain protocols and diplomacy and I hate to say it but it's true you have to worry about future business with the team for this kid and his mom this is a one-off a one-time thing and the team has to be mindful of those dynamics I hope he does play it out on the two tags I wish more quarterbacks would do it so we'll see it uh and it said Lamar Jackson the pro quarterback has every right to focus solely on his craft year round and not his contract he will say and do all the right things about his team and his personal situation as he always has and if he doesn't want to hang out in general manager Eric DeCosta's office sweating over a contract he doesn't have to simple as that he doesn't owe them that everyone has a number maybe the Ravens get there maybe they don't but Jackson isn't required to partake in any back and forth and give them offers or tip his hand we'll work at Lamar's urgency DeCosta said at the combine on Tuesday reiterating what he conveyed last month at a season ending press conference when he noted that they have only had a handful of discussions this past year he knows how to find me I know how to find him the thing is right now only one guy seems to be really looking hey again Lamar he he has the power right now he really does he has the power because the Ravens like you know they want to get this thing done because again that 23 mil on the cap all guaranteed but if you come to a contract extension you come to an agreement you could you could save about I think it's like 10 mil something like that that's a lot of money that you could save on a cap you come to an agreement but if you can't it's like that's it that like you on the hook for that so that this is and this is another reason why this offseason Ravens gotta nail it they gotta nail it they cannot afford to slip up this off season when it comes to free agency when it comes to the draft just everything you have to nail it out of the park so the pressure is on the pressure is on for sure um but yeah we uh we'll stop reading the article there it's it's a lot more to it but I just I don't feel like reading anymore uh because that that is a long article I when I initially read it I didn't realize it was that long I guess because it was so interesting to hear about so many of those things and those little tidbits and and subjects and whatnot so I love it but anyway um something else with Lamar Jackson with this whole talk a lot of agents former agents current agents they've been speaking out about how they feel about the situation and of course bling-clark radio you know they always bring somebody on and they uh they drop a couple of quotes uh from people that they have on their show of course you can listen to the whole thing um but let's look at some of the quotes that they dropped and this one was from agent Tony ag ag known on Lamar Jackson's contract talks a player has has a hard enough time playing now he's negotiating a contract another thing to consider is timing as he grows he'll probably have to change his game a little all of those are important considerations that's what bothers me when you set artificial deadlines and wait to negotiate until then you should be paying money out not putting it in your banks but wow those Orioles have some prospects so that's that's some other stuff right there when it comes to the uh the Orioles and I guess the whole man that whole baseball thing now me I don't watch baseball but I do feel bad for people who do watch baseball and they of course having the whole lockout or whatever business they got going on but anyway um when it comes to Lamar Jackson uh again he he's just like oh yeah Lamar he he should be worried about football we shouldn't be worried about no contract that that should take care of itself man that should take care of itself and that shouldn't be on Lamar that should be on his agent and let's see what another guy who uh who glenn clock had on today too it was uh a former agent mark uh lily bridge he said with oh my goodness he said with with Huntley success two things that he said but let's start with this one with Huntley success the Ravens can win with or without Lamar we love Tyler Huntley y'all already know what time it is we we love Tyler Huntley but come on now come come on now like really man let's read that part again he said with Huntley success one and five one and five he went one and five this year what was it one and six no I forget one and five or one and six one and two but let's run it back again with Huntley success the Ravens can win with or without Lamar they are better with him but don't need to pay top dollar for him because they have a suitable back so again um this is agent talk agent talk and something that I was uh telling telling y'all earlier this week uh I forgot what video we talked about it in but just keep in mind that a lot of these agents a lot of agents current agent former agents they do not like what Lamar Jackson is doing because it makes them look like they're not a requirement it makes them look like people don't need them and these agents of course one as many clients as possible so they can make that bread understand that's their profession but if somebody's going against a grain in your profession especially somebody that goes against a grain and could have such a huge impact on your profession in a negative way for you at least not for the players but for you oh you ain't gonna like that and they don't like that so you've been hearing a lot of agents you've been hearing some lawyers you've been hearing a lot of people speak out about this whole Lamar Jackson thing because they don't like it and they again try to boost up Tyler Huntley and Taylor more Jackson down and this is not the first person that did it um he also said you have to approach and this is another one listen to this listen to this one he said you have to approach this as a running back deal not a quarterback deal because of wear so like wear and tear that's where having an agent helps they can ask what Lamar's money value is what his trade value is at the combine and other events so can Lamar not ask these questions can he not ask what his value but that that first part though that first part like through everything else after that out the window you have to approach this as a running back deal not a quarterback deal because of wear and it's like wow these they just they they just really be on it like just really saying some some stuff that you would think like oh man that sounds crazy how could somebody say that but then you listen to it and it's like oh boy okay I see what's going on here these are agents again they don't they don't like what's going on now something I want y'all to listen to please turn your volume up so you can hear I'm sure you could probably hear already clearly but I want y'all to listen to this this was Mike Florio now Mike Florio he runs pro football talk and I'm sure a lot of y'all are familiar with that he's a lawyer and he's somebody that also well I'ma just let you hear him hear his tone of voice hear what he says about one Lamar Jackson hear what he says about the Baltimore Ravens and then we will uh we'll we'll talk about it we'll dissect it so we'll we'll listen to it first oh I got it on me can't hear nothing like that anything about Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson is far more worthy of an extension than Kyler Murray is well here's the problem Lamar Jackson decided for whatever reason and this is an individual personal decision that players need to make he's decided to not have an agent and when you make that decision yes you are going to save the one two or three percent is his mom still representing him well yeah but you know here's the problem there's really no one who's engaging with the Ravens the Ravens were ready to sign him last year but no one from Lamar's camp would engage them in real meaningful negotiations aimed at getting a contract done and if anything you could argue his injuries last year and his overall performance last year may have may have damaged his leverage and now I have a guy in Tyler Huntley that he's not Lamar Jackson but he can run the same offense and dollar for dollar for what it would take to keep Huntley around versus what it's going to take to make Jackson happy once they find out what that is that that's the reality and when Josh Allen did his deal Dan same draft class 43 million a year when I saw the details of that deal because I knew when I saw the initial report once I see the details I'm going to know do the Ravens want to do this same deal with Jackson or does Jackson want this deal soon as I read it and understood the details this is the deal Jackson should want so all he had to do was go in to Eric to cause to the GM of the team and say let's take the Josh Allen contract let's scratch out Buffalo Bills and put in Ravens scratch out Josh Allen put in Lamar Jackson let's just do that that's what they should have done and it would have been in both sides interest because it's awkward for the Ravens to not have an agent to talk to because when there isn't an agent you know sometimes you gotta speak some hard truths and the negotiation they can't do that with Lamar Jackson they risk alienating him if they tell him why you know they don't want to pay him 50 million a year so it's a tough spot for everyone but I feel bad for Jackson because he should have his deal by now and because he's decided to go without an agent he doesn't have it so oh boy man they they said some stuff there um and you know what let's just let's take it piece by piece uh we'll we'll we'll break it down little little piece by piece just to what they were saying uh in this interview so let's let's run it back one more time we're gonna go piece by piece not the whole thing at once haven't heard anything about Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson is far more worthy of an extension than Kyler Murray is well here's the problem Lamar Jackson decided for whatever reason and this is an individual personal decision that players need to make he's decided to not have an agent all right that right there like it's funny by by the extra words you can tell how somebody feels about a situation Adam Schefter um the other day when he was speaking to Ari to my sports update in that clip when he talked about Lamar Jackson not having an agent he said oh well and him not focusing him not focusing on the contract and focusing on football he was like and Lamar he could he could do whatever he wants he could do whatever he wants okay Adam I know you mad but you know you Adam Schefter talk taught him agents and stuff and that's his plug and now here with Mike Florio uh let me see what he said again because now I don't forget I'm talking about what Adam Schefter said and I forgot what Mike Florio doesn't say oh there you go for whatever reason this is an individual personal decision that players need to make he's decided to not have an agent so again you you know he's not a big fan of Lamar Jackson not having an agent as so many people have let us know but let's continue and when you make that decision yes you are going to save the one two or three percent is his mom still representing him oh yeah but you know here's the problem there's really no one who's engaging with the Ravens the so that right there with uh poli he's oh is his mom still representing and that's that's his accent that's how he speaks so he wasn't necessarily saying anything in like a condescending way but uh he hey is his mom still representing him and the way he said it kind of sound but anyway so yeah she is they they still holding it down they they still got their family thing and that's it but Mike Florio yeah he ain't feeling that he ain't feeling that at all uh and he talked about oh yeah you savior your one your two your three percent like that when you when you talk about one two three percent of 40 mil 45 mil 50 mil that's a good little amount of money and if you could keep whatever again NFL stands for not for alone if you have an opportunity to keep a nice chunk of change that would normally go to somebody else and you get to keep that within your circle you get to decide where that goes to oh man do your thing do your thing now I ain't got no but having an agent is not a bad thing but not having an agent it's not a bad thing either you get to keep that extra brand oh man I'm all for it but anyway let's continue so this part he talked about how the Ravens were ready to sign Lamar Jackson last year but nobody came to the Ravens and were like hey let's let's get this deal done nobody stepped to them and now he's even saying the Ravens they ready but Lamar Jackson hasn't been engaging with them so what would that let us know maybe Lamar's not ready maybe he don't want to do a deal with the Ravens right now like that's something that we've been saying all offseason even before these reports came out and stuff I just do not see Lamar being interested in resigning with the Ravens right here right now really do he think he wants to continue to let this thing play out but let's continue last year and his overall performance last year may have may have damaged his leverage and now they have a guy in Tyler Huntley okay let's stop right there before getting to the Tyler Huntley part you're saying Lamar Jackson his performance last year may have damaged his leverage and that's that's a good talking point I feel like when people say that oh Lamar Jackson he didn't look so good in his last couple of games that's fair I respect that he didn't but with Lamar Jackson the Ravens even though there were some games where he wasn't looking so good they were still top of the AFC they were still top of the AFC and despite Lamar Jackson and any struggles that he did have the Ravens were still winning they were still finding ways to win regardless and Lamar Jackson was a huge part of that but even if you want to be like oh man Lamar Jackson he looked really bad his last games and whatever he wasn't looking so good what happened when Lamar Jackson didn't play the Bears game oh they got away with that one but after that when Lamar Jackson went out nothing so that doesn't look like his leverage that like he lost leverage because when Lamar Jackson didn't play Ravens lost everything they lost well except the moral victories but they lost everything they did not win a game without Lamar Jackson they didn't so it's just it is puzzling when I when I hear stuff like oh Lamar don't have leverage right now because look how he looked at the end of his season what that dude got all the leverage in the world and then he's playing the Tyler Huntley card like oh hey Ravens they got Tyler Huntley so hey let's just let him finish out the whole Tyler Huntley thing first damaged his leverage and now they have a guy in Tyler Huntley that he's not Lamar Jackson but he can run the same offense and since when can Tyler Huntley run the same offense as Lamar he can run a similar but same no I because like Tyler Hunt Tyler Huntley can he can move and like he got some sort of underrated speed but it's just different from Lamar like a healthy Lamar like last year Tyler Huntley he was like faster than Lamar that's because Lamar wasn't healthy he wasn't healthy like pretty much all year and we saw Tyler Huntley run you go okay that's what quickness looks like we forgot about it because Lamar you could tell Lamar has hurt all year long man something was off but anyway let's let's let's let's continue dollar for dollar for what it would take to keep Huntley around versus what it's going to take to make Jackson happy once they find out what that is that that's the reality and I went so he's talking about not even well kind of the kind of the Bucky Brooks approach I don't know if y'all remember um I think it was last year uh last off season Bucky Brooks was saying oh the Ravens they should take like an approach to where a sort of graduating system to where when Lamar Jackson's contract is up they they end up drafting somebody that can take over for him uh and just move move Lamar Jackson trade him for picks or whatever move off of Lamar Jackson and then go with your next guy and then just repeat the process but it's like with Lamar Jackson so many people they try to diminish his value they try to diminish his value and it's it's just crazy I was in a Twitter space is a little while back today and there was a Raiders fan Raiders fan came in there and he was like man I'm listening to you all you Ravens fans you talk about Lamar Jackson with this and that and the whole contract thing he said he said you guys y'all need to pay him and this is coming from a Raiders fan he said y'all need to pay him who in the world would think that Lamar Jackson wasn't worth over 40 million dollars he said because we're the Raiders and we're getting ready to pay an average Derek Carr 40 million dollars per year and he isn't worth it that was coming from him Raiders fan now of course you're gonna have some fans that feel like Derek Carr is worth it and some that and then that's fine but he's he said y'all need to pay Lamar Jackson he said oh man I wish we had a Lamar Jackson on our team I appreciate that it kicks thank you man you said what 46 no 40 mil has to be the floor for MVP come on hey hopefully man anyway let's let's get back to this Josh Allen did his deal Dan same draft class 43 million a year when I saw the details of that deal because I do when I saw the initial report once I see the details I'm gonna know do the ravens want to do this same deal with Jackson or does Jackson want this deal soon as I read it and understood the details this is the deal Jackson should want so all he had to do was go in to Eric to cost to the GM of the team and say let's take the Josh Allen contract let's scratch out Buffalo bills and put in ravens scratch out Josh Allen put in Lamar Jackson let's just do that that's what they should have done okay so he was saying that this part that Lamar should have took the deal that Josh Allen got and then if he would have taken that then I'm sure it would have been like maybe like a little bit more since he would have taken it after what not all right cool let's keep going it would have been in both sides interest because it's awkward for the ravens to not have an agent to talk to because when there isn't an agent you know sometimes you gotta speak some hard truths and the negotiation they can't do that with Lamar Jackson they risk alienating him if they tell him why you know they don't want to pay him 50 million a year so it's a tough spot for everyone but I feel bad for Jackson because he should have his deal by now and because he's decided to go without an agent he doesn't have it okay now again like we were talking about earlier that last part that he said I appreciate that I appreciate that part because he said that without the agent like the ravens have to they have to tell Lamar exactly what it is and that's true because they do there is no middle man to kind of soften the blow like hey tell him that we ain't really feeling this so now tell him that we don't want to pay no you have to be straightforward and he did say that in that situation the ravens run the risk of alienating Lamar Jackson which they could but then at the same time if they weren't honest about how they felt about certain things they could run the risk of alienating him that way because I feel like and this is me personally I can't speak for Lamar Jackson for anybody else but if in past employers with past employers in relationships with friends family whoever it may be I'm me personally I'm somebody that appreciates hey if I'm doing something that is either bothering you it offends you it upsets you anything like that let me know you can be straightforward with me you don't have to tell one of my friends to tell me no no no no you can tell me directly I would much rather appreciate that than you telling one of my friends and then that friend try to tell me and then stuff gets lost in translation no no no no tell me directly directly and I will appreciate it whether it's some negative pilot whatever let me know and that allows me to really gain trust and appreciation for somebody that much more because instead of telling this person and then to them telling that person then telling that person and then it gets to me no no no you came straight to me with it that's what the ravens have the opportunity to do with Lamar and that's what Lamar has the opportunity to do with the ravens too as the agent as his own agent ravens can be like look Lamar no we don't like this we don't like this we do like this we like that but Lamar on the flip side he can be like all right ravens I don't like this I don't like that I do like this I like that it works both ways and it does not make it a bad thing that he does not have an agent because this works both ways both sides can benefit from this in a major way man a major way and I feel like there's a lot of people that are missing that because everybody looks oh whoa agents they have all this experience with negotiating deals and they do they do oh agents are used to talking to the gms and they are they are but who's to say that Lamar Jackson he can't get it done team keep it clean we out