 It's the business. Hello, everyone. Are we live? Live on the tubes. Live on the internet? The interwebs. We love the internet. I am recording. Test. Everyone said test. Test. Testaroonie. You're good. You're both recording. I'm happy. It's a miracle. There will be a podcast. Don't jinx it, Todd. I just work here, man. Technology scares me. Oh, great. I actually know the woman who designed the Barbie that said, math is hard. Oh, God. She did not put that in. They did it when she was on vacation. I imagine so. There it goes. I got a little too much headroom. All right. Well, this is going to be great. I'm excited. Are you excited, Allison Sheridan? I am excited. I got Todd Whitehead to talk to. It's just going to be two old pals hanging out, right? Todd's excited. Fun will be had. Look at that. It's almost time to start the show. Let's see. Are you sticking on you or am I causing that? What do you mean? There you go. Now it's switching. I apologize in advance to all the AlphaGate greater listeners. It's probably going to be not the best audio quality today. We're highly experimental first use of a brand new simulcasting system on my worst hardware. Sorry in advance. You decided to suffer yourself? I had this tested somehow. So I'm going to throw myself under the bus. Guess what? It's 1.30. Let's do a show. Yeah. Let's do it. All right. That's me, right? Let's see. Let's start at the top. Here we go. And we're done. This is starting out perfectly. Oh, goodbye. Goodbye. Great show. All right. Give it a go. Here we go. This is The Daily Tech News Show for Thursday, June 11th. I'm Allison Sheridan filling in for Tom Merritt, who's on Double Secret Special Assignment. With me today is Todd Whitehead, a founder of AlphaGate Radio. How you doing today, Todd? I am doing great. How is your world? I got to say, what was Tom thinking, leaving us in charge? The fools, the fools! I thought he knew better than that. All right. Let's take a look at the headlines. Oculus Rift unveiled the finalized consumer version of Rift VR headset ahead of E3 2015, which begins this week. According to TechCrunch, the Rift will ship with a wireless Xbox One controller and a small tabletop camera to track LED markers on the headset. The Rift features removable headphones, as well as space to let users keep normal eyeglasses on, yay, when the headset is worn. The partnership with Microsoft also means Rift will work natively with Windows 10, plus the ability to play Xbox One games on the headset. Oculus also showed off a prototype of its Oculus Touch controllers, known as the Half Moon. They let you pick up objects, fire a gun, or point at things, and include integrated, inertial, and 360-degree movement tracking, plus giving haptic feedback. What do you think, Todd? This is going to be our big discussion topic for today, but I am cautiously nerd-squee-ing about this one. The details have been very thin up until now, other than it's going to be VR. So, I want to leave most of it for the main discussion, but looking very sexy. Yeah, we're going to dig into this. ARS Technica reports that the European Commission has opened an antitrust investigation into Amazon's distribution of electronic books. The Commission is particularly interested in the company's contracts with publishers, especially clauses that say Amazon must be informed when a publisher gives favorable or different terms to a competitor and the right to equal or better terms for themselves. When contacted for a statement, Amazon expressed confidence in the legality of their agreements and said they would cooperate fully. I don't have a lot of experience with contracts, but the way I remember it is when you're in negotiations and stuff, you're not allowed to tell people what the other guys are doing is the way I thought was going. People were funny that way. Anti-competitive what? That just has Hinky written all over it. That's just like, wow. They got away with that this far. I do love the European Union. You go, girl. That's what I say. Sick of them. Geekwire reports that T-Mobile's outspoken and rakish CEO John Ledger, their words not ours, posted a YouTube video lashing out against rivals ATT and Verizon, dumb and dumber, for the tactics in trying to control the upcoming wireless spectrum auction. Ledger said there's some serious bleep about to go down in DC, and if you're one of the 180 million Americans out there using a smartphone and you are not pissed off right now, then you are not paying attention, but you need to. Geekwire reports that he asked consumers to make some noise and reach out directly to the FCC. The remarks come as T-Mobile considers a tie-up with Dish Network Corp. A deal that could alter the landscape of T-Mobile more spectrum. Can I just say I love this guy. Every time he gets a camera pointed at him, he says something more awesome than the time before. I love how he's shaking up the industry and just talks plain. If you're ever bored, load Periscope up on your phone, and all you will get is John Ledger periscoping over and over and over again. You don't have to wait for someone else to post a camera on him because he's always on Periscope. So yeah, I love the guy. I love the guy. I think he's just awesome. And he's doing good work as far as people should really be paying attention to this because back room deals are going down that will affect us for years and years and years to come. So listen to what he has so you'll be entertained and informed. It sort of feels like the stuff we have all been saying, only we're not nearly as entertaining about it as he is, right? Yes, he has a much bigger microphone than we do. Reuters reports that iPhone manufacturer Foxconn is in talks to build the first Apple plant in India. The move could lower prices for Apple products in India, which is expected to have 650 million smartphones in country by 2019. Oh, and it will also likely decrease production costs as compared to rising wages in China. One local official said Foxconn would be scouting locations next month. Foxconn had previously said that it wants to develop 10 to 12 facilities in India by 2020. Busy doing to China what China did to Japan. That's India for you. You know, I found this interesting. We went to India just recently and one of our guides was saying that they have actually priced themselves out of the outsourcing market because the Indian wages came up so much with all the outsourcing work that they had that now that's being shifted down to the Philippines. I guess there's like a natural flow down and I guess it's going to move from China to India and then the Philippines can be in line for that next or something. I'm not sure how that works, but it was interesting to see that they had moved one industry out and maybe this is climbing up the food chain a little bit for India. That's circle of life in who's got the lowest wages and the worst environmental protections. Let's put our factories there but I'm not cynical about it at all. Well, there's that. Wired reports that the US State Department has issued new statements on how it plans to restrict published online data for 3D printed guns. Earlier this week the State Department sent a letter to Defense Distributed, the group responsible for developing a 3D printed gun stating that it will require the group to get permission to publish its files online. Last week the State Department wrote that it intends to require prior approval for the online publication of any technical data that would allow for the creation of weapons. This continues along legal battle between creators who say that the data is a freedom of speech issue and the State Department which considers the information could be a violation of the international trade in arms regulations. The new State Department restrictions come as Congress starts to reexamine potential regulations on 3D printed weapons. Freedom of speech. I guess I could dictate the technical schema for 3D printing a gun to you, but they're not sure this necessarily falls under the same protections. From a lay person's perspective it seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Yeah, I don't know without getting into a giant political discussion with everybody listening, I have opinions that would support the State Department in this one. It is an interesting idea though, the technical data side of it. I mean if you teach someone how to make a bomb with fertilizer and such, I don't know how to do that. I don't know what the ingredients are, but is that considered technical data? I don't know. It seems to be of the same kind and what other controls on that. This goes back to the old days of the anarchist cookbook that got published. Yeah. Interesting. Today the US Federal Trade Commission took its first consumer protection action on a crowdsourcing campaign. Recode reports the case involves an Oregon named Eric Chevalier who launched a Kickstarter campaign to produce a board game called The Doom That Came To Atlantic City. Chevalier asked for $35,000, got $122,000 and then 14 months later announced he was canceling the game. Except, you know, he didn't give the money back. Investigators found he used most of the money on personal expenses. The FTC finds Chevalier $111,793 which he cannot pay and barred him from misleading people in future crowdfunding campaign or publicizing any customer data or not honoring stated refund policies. Now, can anybody say this is a bad thing? This seems like a wonderful thing that they went after this guy. It's too bad that he spent all the money. But it is setting precedent at least. If you think it's a good idea to con people via crowdsourcing which more and more cases of that are coming to light. There's lots of cases of people going to manufacturers in Asia finding producers making low-end goods and then representing them as Kickstarter. Say, hey, Kickstarter, my little micro drone and give me money and I'll produce it when they're in fact just buying it on the cheap from a Chinese producer and reselling it and pretending that they developed it with the money that they raised. That's not cool. That kind of fraud, the law needs to grow and adapt to the new creative criminals that are out there. This precedent didn't need to be set. I really hate if this gets wrecked because it's been such a brilliant idea but again a dangerous idea. The best thing to think with these things is that you're not guaranteed anything if you sign up for these. But when they put in, we promise we will give you these. When they have no intention of doing it that's the most evil is when they're doing it fraudulently from the get-go. It's sad when they meant to. It's evil when they didn't mean to, I guess. Yes, evil. Digital camera fanatics. There's a new king in the digital camera landscape and Gadget is reporting that Sony has released the A7R2 a camera using the world's first back illuminated full frame sensor. The back illuminated sensors increases the sensor's light sensitivity in this case to an ISO level of 102,400. Until now, the technology has been limited to high end camera phones and smaller sensors. The camera's 35mm size sensor also sports 42.4 megapixels 5-axis stabilization system and 399 point detection autofocus. 399 couldn't get that last one in, I guess. If that's not enough, the A7R2 shoots 4K video using the full sensor without resorting to pixel quality. A technique where groups of pixels on the sensor are read as one pixel degrading image quality. The camera ships in the U.S. at a wallet busting $3,200. You're going to get in line for one of those, Todd? I have never, thankfully from my bank account standpoint, been bitten by the photography bug. So my Nexus 4 takes all the pictures I need it to and I'll just dandy without dropping 3 large on a camera. It sounds sexy as hell. I'll dump my money into internet radio, thank you very much. There you go. It is a very, very dangerous addiction. Luckily my addiction level is only at the very, very low end of mirrorless cameras so far, but that does sound pretty sweet. The first thing is admitting that you have a problem. In addition to organizing the world's information, Google would now like to organize cities according to the telegraph. The search company has announced a new start-up that will focus on improving city living. Sidewalk labs will independently develop new technologies to deal with cost of living, transportation, and energy usage. Google's Larry Page said a modest amount of money has been invested in the new company. What does modest mean to Google? It was like 32 million or something that was just out of the seat cushions. A rounding error for them is my 10-year budget. How modest is modest and where can I get a cut? I love this idea though because I've turned into one of those people who starts calling the city about changes they're making to sidewalks and stuff. I'm becoming that weird little old lady that's going, well, I don't understand how this crosswalk works. What have you done here? In previous generations you had been writing letters to the editor. You're just the mature technological version of that where you email them. What are you doing to my sidewalk? No, they don't have email, Todd. I use the telephone when I call them like it's 172, it's really sad. Who what? Yeah, I don't know. I had to go next door to find one. In gadget reports that Skype has announced it will end the modern UI also known as Windows 8 only version of its messaging app on PCs as of July 7th. After that date the next update will move users over to the desktop version. Skype says it's simplifying the experience around a single program that you can use with both a touch screen and a mouse and keyboard. The move will not affect Windows RT, I hope not since there's only the metro, I'm sorry, modern UI, right? Or the Skype features in Windows 10. This just acts of their general overhaul as they head for Windows 10 to make the adaptive interfaces as you shift from phone to tablet to desktop. All their applications will adapt to whether you're on a touch screen, whether you're on a small touch screen full-size touch screen, desktop with a mouse so it makes perfect sense that they would have this ready for the July launch of Windows 10, which I'm kind of looking forward to. Alright, I think you're up Todd. Ah, breaking news! According to Buzzfeed Dick Costolo is stepping down as the CEO of Twitter following months of questions about the company's performance under his leadership. Jack Dorsey Twitter's co-founder has been tapped as interim CEO. Costolo released a statement which said lots of nice things about Dorsey. Dorsey released a statement that said lots of nice things about Costolo. Twitter stock is up 7% on the news in after hours trading. There is almost certainly more to come in 140 character sound bits. Have you read the hatching Twitter book? No, I have not. It will really make you think weirdly of Twitter. You should check it out. It's a very strange book about all the different comings and goings of the CEO, so this just appears to be the next chapter. Yeah, I mean a kind of a documentary phase right now, tunneling through Netflix, so that kind of behind the scenes lifting the hood thing will be right in my happy place, so I'll give it a look. Oh yeah, it's very, very weird. Dorsey will continue to lead Square, the mobile payments company, founded after he first left Twitter in 2008. This is Dorsey's second time returning to Twitter in an increased capacity. He returned in 2010 to lead product after Costolo became CEO and then gradually skilled back his commitment. And now time for some news from you. Captain Kipper sent us the Verge report that Reddit has banned five subreddits under its new anti-harassment policy. The subreddits were closed for violating the Reddit rules to keep everyone safe. One forum dedicated to posting pictures of overweight people had about 151,000 subscribers. Reddit spokesperson said all sites all had numerous complaints that they were harassing people on and off Reddit. The company also said it is taking a step-by-step approach to the recent harassment changes. Oof. Are you anything of a Reddit or an Allison? No I'm not, but I know one in my house. Yeah they were then kind of burning Reddit to the ground for the last 24 hours or so. Because of this? Yeah, this I call this the anonymity problem because when you have a very loosely policed exchange like Reddit previously we had DIG and you attempt to make money off of it you inevitably have to try and apply some rules and the free lovin' trolley types of the internet don't like them no rules. So as happened with DIG before the reaction to we'd really like it if we had content that was more appealing to advertisers so we're going to shut down really vile hateful stuff so the trolls have escaped from the subreddits that they used to be on and they're tearing the whole place down around their ears making it a very unpleasant place to be right now and this is why we can't have nice anonymous things. We'll see if this one blows over or if it's going to be DIG 2.0 2.0 We shall see. Habituala Condosse sent us this story from the Wall Street Journal reporting that Netflix is partnering with Marriott Hotels to bring streaming video service to more than 300 hotels in the US. Marriott guests will be able to sign in to their accounts through a Netflix app on the hotel rooms TV or use the app to subscribe to the service if they're not already subscribers. This one, the service requires some recoding of the Netflix app to allow guests to stay signed in over multiple days and wipe their information clean after they have checked out. The company's plan is to roll out the service over the next year and a half targeting implementation at nearly all of its hotels by the end of 2016. Six Marriott hotels already offer the service and six more will be offering it by the end of the summer. What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong? We'll automatically log you out. Sure we will. Just after we watch this interesting thing that's going to show up in your queue when you get home. Especially a service tied to your credit card. Oh God, yes. All kinds of hackles rising on that one of you better be real careful about sanitizing that login information the moment they leave. It sounds really cool. I hope they do it right. Well, somebody named Espy Sheridan shared this surprising bit of news. Ars Technica reports Hyperloop Transport Technologies has secured permission to build a five mile $100 million Hyperloop test track in California. That's right Elon Musk's vision of high speed mass transit will be built. The first test track will only be five miles long and it won't operate at the supersonic speeds that Musk envisioned somewhere between 200 to 300 miles per hour instead of the 760 miles per hour envisioned. This test track will be built near Quay Valley in California in between San Francisco and Los Angeles. Construction is scheduled to begin in 2016 and completed in 2017. This costs $100 million. How much does the really fast long one cost? Oh, I'm assuming it would be billions but I mean a good bit of this is going to be developing technologies from the ground up that do not exist. This is the NRE of Unrecurring Engineering Expense? In theory. Now this eventually this world would be a government project so just put an exponential increase into your budget and you'll be fine. But I just before I die I wouldn't mind riding in a pneumatic tube at least once and just pretend I'm on the moon in space 1999 riding around moon-based alpha because I'm a big fat nerd is why. Ever since being a JC Penney and as a very very young child watching them stick the money in those little tubes and having them suck up to payroll upstairs I want to be in the tube too. Put me in the tube! Well, let's get on to our discussion story now. Let's talk more about your mean nerdness over Oculus Rift's commercial VR headset with Xbox One controller, wireless Xbox controller. And why does this excite you? It is beginning to have the feelings of a genuine next big thing. I was concerned when some of the information about the PC version of Oculus Rift the requirements you would need to have on the PC side to run it adequately and it was really a very high-end gaming rig that you would need to own to run it at full tilt. Back that they're releasing confidently releasing one for a gaming console gives me hope that they will be able to ease in acceptance as long as the content that they deliver through the VR headset is compelling. So it won't be nearly as incredible and amazing as if you were hooking the version up to a high-end PC but if it is still as moving and awe-inspiring an experience as everyone I've talked to, I mean you've had one of these things on your head have you not? I've actually very recently used a developer kit to hooked up to a PC too and I wanted to talk about that but finish your thought. Yeah, because I still have yet to experience it myself but everyone I've talked to who has experience says you have no idea until you have tried it. Coming out for a gaming console the opportunity to get people to try it is greatly increased. If they get decent adoption out of the gate this has a chance to grow legs and become the next big fun thing for us to play with for the next 10 years. This might be the next fun terrifying thing. So I went to my friend Ryan's house and he let me put it on and first of all I mean I screamed a couple times because my daughter touched my hand and it freaked me out when she touched me in the middle of it because I'm someplace else where did that even come from I thought it was a monster bathroom. You were that immersed. The frame rate was pretty bad if I turned my head at any kind of speed I would see double images until it settled out it wasn't really highly graphic but he said Allison look at your hands because it was somebody else's hands and I would move my hands mentally really confusing okay so maybe I'm just not used to it but he told me that I had an evening where he spent a couple hours in it right he'd play in a game he's really really into it and then he took the headset off and he says now Allison look at this plant right here you know and I know that this is a three dimensional plant but when I took off the headset it was like 11 dimensional it was super hyper 3D and it freaked me out because everything looked really weird when I took the headset off so he started thinking what if I put this on my daughter's head her brain is still forming you know this is all atrophied by this time because he's over 30 he said what if I put it on my developing child's brain what would it do to her we don't know what that's going to do right they seem to have found something where they can mainline straight into different centers of the brain are they going to use those powers for good or for evil little jack I feel in the back of my neck right there I've been trusting what that thing is hmm yeah the but I'm just cautiously hopeful if it never becomes anything more than merely an entertainment appliance it still has tremendous potential to be a really cool fun entertainment appliance both for just ingesting cinema and interactive things the thing that I was most interested in seeing on this is the half moon controllers because controllers we can input into the game but also they give you motion tracking for the ends of your arms which is a piece when I was looking at HoloLens where Microsoft seems to have been nailing the whole body movement tracking and so far Oculus has really been focusing on just head movement tracking and this shows that they're expanding into tracking where your hands are so as they said in the article you can pick up a gun in game or interact with a control panel in game because the system... as long as it's not a 3D printed gun exactly because that would be illegal by the time this ships but that's a whole other story but you could interact but the whole idea of where they present a floating 3D display in front of you can actually interact with buttons on it because it knows where your hand is that opens up all kinds of fun game design possibilities and that seems to be where you could go beyond the gaming right if you could be on Mars and putting something together using your hands interacting with something and maybe remote controlling something you start to go well that's kind of... not even that specific just the concept of a virtual display so a huge screen opens up in floating space in front of you and all kinds of controls can be put there so home automation that can control my home alarm control my Nest thermostat I can send a tweet to basically the whole everything you can control electronically you can control via a well designed virtual console and all you're doing is sitting in your recliner this is the end of fitness as we know it and doing all the things with as long as it knows where you're looking and where your hands are just I trust in the creativity of developers to take a tool like that and deliver some seriously cool and useful things to us I'm waiting for the first big thing to come along I never envisioned and when I see it it makes total sense this is one of those things where if they build it the developers will come and that's when you find out what it really is and I'm hoping you said about the fitness thing it seems like when I went to CES all the products were in two camps half of them were to make us fatter and half of them were to make us thinner I don't want to get on my chair to walk upstairs to turn on the thermostat but I'm wearing an apple watch and a Fitbit to make sure I measure my steps at the same time but also from the gaming standpoint if you're free to move enough for just a first person shooter where you're having a crouch behind cover and shoot around corners they could deliberately design that to give you a cardiovascular workout while you're being entertained so this on the flip side could become the ultimate nerd fitness tool where you are kicking ass and taking names in an online first person shooter and you look like an Adonis and you're knocking over furniture and kicking real people in the head while you're doing it right I already envisioned whole rooms and homes being dedicated to this that are devoid of obstacles and just have the gaming rig and the person in it and it's the VR room because people learn very quickly hey I destroyed all my knick-knacks and I don't want to do that again I get hurt if I walk in there while Todd's playing do not step into the room warning warning we're playing underway let's move on to our pick of the day Brandon and Frosty Cobron Australia writes as someone who's been listening to a net neutrality debate come to a head over the past 12 months I thought I understood the importance of the outcome that felt somewhat disconnected from the issue living in Australia that was until I listened to the two most recent episodes of Upvoted by Reddit will throw Reddit some love episode 20 a neutral net part 1 and episode 21 a neutral net part 2 the in-depth look into the issue of net neutrality with a special focus on developing internet markets like India and the impacts of outside influences like Facebook and internet.org are having it's a great listen for anyone still struggling to understand the net neutrality debate or its importance having listened myself I'm now questioning the value of zero rated services at home in Australia that sounds really really interesting to me yeah the hope that zero rating is such a foreign concept to me but just understanding it I finally got a grip onto what it is the kind of not so great way which is hey just use our free stuff and how that is a very anti competitive way to quote help people in the developing world so it is that once yes you're giving people who need it free access to information and you're also effectively denying them access to your competitors so it's like good evil evil good it is one of the hardest ones well if you like Brandon have a great pick you can send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and you can find Tim at Tom's picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks or let's see our message of the day Steven who's writes in I heard on DTNS that Apple will have terrestrial radio stations as part of their new streaming service perhaps Apple has a terrestrial radio so they qualify for the lower mechanical royalty fees they want to sound like they're being innovative but they're just squeezing every penny they can out of the music companies Pandora came up with the same idea a while ago I don't think anybody understands what Apple is talking about these days in this whole music thing right I mean it's they've done their usual thing of okay where is their action in the tech sector where are people getting excited about so oh look streaming audio services are very competitive and people are getting interested in we have Spotify we have Pandora we have Ardio we've got some older players newer players but it is on the minds of the consumer right now and as usual Apple swoop in and give it a pretty interface buy all the content and make theirs the default go to or that is what they're attempting to do I don't know if they could necessarily pull it off this time we will see how sedentary are we stuck in our iOS walled garden this will be a good little tell whether or not we're willing to take the easy way out that's right well hey Todd I want to thank you for being on the show Todd Whitehead of alphageekradio.com I was so happy we would get to comedy or Tom's show today and I don't think we broke it too much do you I'll wait for the angry flame emails later I had a good time hey if we had fun who cares what's going on with what's new with alphageekradio these days we are getting ready to expand to the next level so keep an eye it's not quite ready to launch yet but first week of July I plan to launch my most ambitious Indiegogo to date to create a whole new way for you Allison is one of my hosts to stream you've been actually one of my beta testers of the tool to where you just you stream everything and then the way you want to on whatever service you want and then it is magically shows up on all these different platforms you didn't have to do anything but press a button you're basically swirping up all geek radio and video on the internet and starting your evil plan for world domination take it in and send it everywhere so no matter where you're standing when someone's live you won't have an excuse not to listen or watch so if it's if you're far away from and you've got a crappy 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I was going to do the I was getting frog pits in the diamond club and then I was having webcam problems getting back on I was like I'll add it in post well fix it in post fix it in post really it was awesome it ended on time that's my favorite kind of show excellent thank you you know what really helped it was the vodka in my mug that just called me right down morphine in the water yeah would you like to hear some titles would you be interested in some titles so far we have so far we have the right to print arms frog turner I like that one beep going down in DC beep shouldn't that be serious bleep yeah serious bleep but I kind of like serious beep xbox xboxulous rift xboxulous and the uncanny rift valley oculus rift x closing the rift between virtual and reality and um who kicks the kick starters yes I'm always a fan and that's what I've got so far oh I forget the show without merit maybe that should be safe for Friday for the last one I like xboxulous rift yeah that's pretty good my second choice would be the right to print arms when in doubt I like to go with the discussion with the story one just because not that we care about SEO but what the heck at least it gives people an honest indication oculus seclusion is good no longer modern that's nice I like a 11 dimensional plant alright I'm going with let us sew it shall be written sew it shall be done et cetera et cetera et cetera xboxulous rift I like it I leave you guys to talk as much as you wish or leave as early as you like from the post show I now must edit this is the fun part I'm hanging out yes please hang out and talk and don't mind if I don't I'm just editing so Jenny I'm going to create for you a permanent on air script a special one for this is something new and different because all you've had so far is the ones that are for when we're rigged with Tom being the broadcast source so I'm going to give you a permanent one where when someone else is hosting the show and you just wanted to have it grab the audio from the hangout then it'll all happen server-cert so on these days when Tom's gone you'll still just have two buttons to hit but you want to do anything on your end I'll be getting radio such an amazing tool and yet for some reason when I'm running the whole thing and doing all the stuff it's like the one thing my brain can't handle and that's entirely the fault of my brain but it finds itself to be true and then I start to troubleshoot it and then other things slide so I would be very grateful for that you are the poster child for this next I literally am I am your worst case UX experience oh no no no no I like to think that I'm valuable in that regard at least you are because I can at least talk to you I have stories the goal is to have that be the new normal where someone will either do a hangout or a youtube live or a twitch or whatever and they won't have to run encoding software on their end at all but just press the button get their cookie and do their show I feel so reasonably certain that I burned a hole an actual physical hole an alpha geek radio channel to the other day wait I never get a cookie when I broadcast Tom do you know how to do it supposed to get a cookie though? you have to be motivated with little treats Jenny press the button get the pellet Roger point your camera down you're driving because you're sitting with your head like this on the edge of the screen it drives me nuts every single day Steve and I watch it and go Roger Roger is melting I will say what Tom often says in these times you know what I'm going to say we don't have an official video yeah but Roger is the video guy this is what you look like Roger no I Hi my name is Roger Chang oh no we need to conform to suddenly broadcast standards I find that very interesting very broadcasted very ironic what you want to do is put your head almost touching the top of the screen because if you do a lower third like this you actually don't want to do it at the top of the screen though that's one of the big no-nos no no no but the problem is what I want to see if you have a lower third yeah but I'm never on so there is no lower third you're on every day I'm on in the pre and the post show but I'm not in the show okay maybe you don't have to be at the top but you can't be at the bottom either I'm going to put a giant poster back there with my name and I'm going to basically flip convention on its head I'm going to pay Len Peralta to send you a bunch of posters of his drawings to put up there thank you very much for being so nice to us in the show but how did this become the pick on Roger date Roger is doing a fabulous job for this show and I will not let this stand I think he just doesn't understand that he has legions of fans that are showing up to see him in the pre and post show and he needs to be something above his nose yeah my forehead is above my nose below your nose I said it backwards okay I'll be nice everybody be nice to Roger he's working really hard and has a brand new baby about that brand it's a depreciation he's making it out of the hospital he drove it off a lot love to know more than anything else where on earth the recording of this show and I'm playing it in audio hijack oh can you save it make try doing a save as and usually they'll tell you the folder that it's in yeah it's so but it's not it's just showing it to me in the audio hijack so on the bottom right they moved it there's a button that says actions and they're showing library revealing finder that's all I wanted please send them an email support at roguemeba.com telling them to put that button back I have written to them every day that's what takes me the longest is like finding the physical file on my computer so Jenny here's another feature of the new system is if you had lost that file the server has captured an mp3 of the performance that you could have fallen back on that's cool I wanted that I wanted that because I want to enable there already exist apps for smart phones to shout cast stream straight from the phone very few of them have the ability to also save it to mp3 so it's going to be a live performance and then no podcast I want someone to be able to whip out their phone do an interview on the spot with the phone that just you know if the planet's aligned you had an opportunity to do a quick live interview with you stream it live and it gets an mp3 and they can do it all with nothing more than their phone occasional use but the the times when it might get used might be it would be worth having I think that might be used more often than you think I'm building it so if I build it I hope they come I would use that I never do live on the show floor kind of interviews and I would definitely do that I will soon have the tool for you and you can be my beta monkey again you're great you're going to be a beta monkey you can call it audio scope you can call it audio scope or alpha geek radio scope there you go it will work everywhere but c-e-s-n-a-b anywhere where the nerds gather and annihilate the local bandwidth I got to drop off guys it was a ton of fun thank you for having me thank you very much I loved it see ya bye alright one down see now here's the thing where's output where did the output file go after level later where it started huh yeah it should go right next to where it started I think sometimes I think I might have programmed in at some point in the deep past to go a different place to go someplace else by the way in audio hijack you can tell it where you want the file to be saved audio hijack and I put it my sidebar so it's always there there's a full level of workflow process that I'm still working on wait I got to think about this where would it have gone it might have gone to the audio hijack actual folder guys this is so exciting really so how was the show Allison I felt great about it I think I only screwed up once so that's not too bad I didn't understand any screw ups I didn't screw up at all I was surprisingly nervous though it is nerve wracking you're holding somebody else's baby it's different than holding your own but you guys did great you really did I really want to know where this output thing went it's making me nutter butter can you do a search for that output I'm just going to search the title I'm just going to search the this you know my friend Dorothy has a script ready for Tom that you press a button and it does all this sweet she wrote it for me two years ago and I keep telling Tom and he's going yeah yeah I got to do that when I'm done with the show I press a button and about 10 minutes later there's an mp3 file ready for upload all the ID3 tags go in the levelation goes on the whole thing's finished yeah well I got to go because now I got to focus on editing and putting in the stuff and I've yet to be able to talk and edit at the same time I really want to be able to I feel like it's a great skill but I don't have it yet apparently it's not actually possible oh and by the way thank you for the connection to Patrick he's going to be on my show this week oh great I'm super excited yeah he is fantastic that's why we hired him Roger I still love you even if it's only half your head no it's my head it's just not the rest of my body that's right take care folks bye whoops I should probably end that