 And it's 2 32 p.m. So can we bring this meeting to order? Please do. All right. Okay. And I'll leave it to the next. Jamie, you're muted. Okay. Good. Okay. So our chair, that's your D. You get to. Yeah. So the first order of business is to approve the, the minutes. And we're going to look at, that's why I was trying to look at the reporting. September 27th. And can I interject for a second on, on the agenda? I put public comment first. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's okay. Look at it because. Yeah. I am juggling here. Okay. Just three things. It was public comment approval of minutes. And then any other topics. So it's just those three things. Okay. Cause I do see we do have an attendee sharing sherry's in attendance. So. Do I. You're going to let them speak. I'm, I'm assuming I'm looking for my agenda. Yeah, I can do that. If they want to speak. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear very well. Yeah, D literally, it's just number one, public comment, number two, approval of the four sets of minutes. And then the last is any other topics that, you know, did not come up with in 24 or 48 hours. That email was different from the panelists email. I'm sorry. I'm just. No, I don't think I sent that email. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Meeting. Oh, it's the post. Okay. All right. Yeah. The meeting agenda that got posted. Yep. The only thing that I. Change in this is like an election as a chair. And this is, um, Jacqueline Wagner. And I. Don't remember. I remember talking about. I don't know if I should, but I'm not sure if that's what, what it was. I can't put my name there for that. Because I remember bringing it up. I don't know if I should put my name there. Excuse me. Well, no, I thought Sherry Sherry was speaking or was going to speak. No, we're. Um, the first item on our agenda is public comment. So we should open the floor to anybody that wants to speak. I was just mentioning who's in the attendance. Oh, I thought you said she had her hand up to. No. No, I know, but we do have public comment first. So we should open the floor in case she wants to speak. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'm just going to take you off Jack. I was just. Since there was someone when she opened it up. I assumed I could speak. So does the public want to speak. Or have. I'm looking. I don't see, I don't see her hand raised. Okay. Okay. So sorry, Jacqueline. Like I said. On the election of the chair, but Jacqueline Wagner. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure if it's either me or Jamie, but you can change that. So September 27th. Okay. Hold on one second. I have, let me open that document and share it. Cause I think I did make changes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So let me just get that and share the screen. So that's why I was trying to, to listen to the recording because. Jacqueline, I believe you brought it up and then Jamie. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as far as I'm saying, I don't, I don't really remember, but I did make a part of it. So I'm okay with that. Put my name on it. Yeah, just so it's reflected. It should be reflected accurately. But yeah, that's why when I went looking for the. It was nowhere to be found. All right. So do you see the September 27th minutes? Oh yeah. Okay. So let me just, let me see. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I'm on second one page. And get bigger. Whoops. All right. So where do we, where are we talking? Okay. So here. On four. If you go down to where four is. Yeah. Jamie Wagner. Both Jamie and Jackie Gardner. Okay. And then. Oh, there you are. Okay. Right there. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Let me save that. Okay. Whether any other things in here. I'll start back up. The same and four. Same for off back to four. Okay. Yeah. So we're underneath the paragraph there where there's motion. And then Jamie Wagner Wagner felt. Then there's Demetrius Shabazz felt. So there's one, two, three. Four. Okay. I got my cursor on it. Three and Shabazz felt the town clerk should be separate from the board of registrars and not service chair. Susan Audette concurred. So. And that's why I was looking up the, the recording because it was more of a conversation Sue. Where you offered that you had recently been to the board of registrars. And then you also offered that you went through the notes from the previous town clerks. And that. The town clerk usually did not serve as chair. So. Was it the state meeting? Mass town clerk association. Yeah. Yeah. And that there was a discussion about. Who should serve as chair. Within the board of registrars. And then you also. Offered that you went through the notes from the previous town clerk. And then you also offered that you went through the notes from the previous town clerk. Which I usually did not service chair. So it just seems. You know, that Dimitri is Shabazz is suggesting this. And you're concurring, but it doesn't offer the evidence as to why. I got it. Yeah. So I just wanted the, it to reflect that as the evidence as to why, which I'm going to, I'll word it nicely and put that in there. So that we don't, you know, have to go through whoever serves in this role. Basically I'm TCA notes. Okay. Got it. Okay. And then my reading of the rest of them. Was fine. Of the rest of that one. Jamie, do you have anything to offer in terms of the minutes? No, I just. I had really just that one to Jacqueline Wagner thing stuck out to me also, but that's already been fixed, but I didn't have anything else that seemed. Like it warranted changing or adding to. Well, um, Sue. That was it. Okay. Well, someone needs to make a motion. Right. I moved to. I moved to approve the minutes as amended for the Monday, September 27th. Meeting. Okay. Jackie, you want to second it? Um, you can second it. Oh, okay. It's offering. Um, so I second. Um, everyone. Uh, Let's see. So I second it. And we all are in favor. Yes. Hi. Okay. Um, I think that's it. It's approved. Okay. Jackie, you want to second it? Um, you can second it. Oh, okay. It's offering. Um, so I second. Um, everyone. It's approved. We have to do a roll call vote, but, um, because it's soon. Yes. D. Uh, it says yay. Jamie. Yay. Okay. Jackie. Yeah. Yeah. So. And me too. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So that's that set. All right. Let me get the next one up on the screen. And save it and close it. Okay. Okay. And can we all see this one? Yes. Okay. Good. So my, my only question on this one was, I mean, I wasn't at this meeting, so I really can't speak to anything in it, but are we, it has with everybody's name and addresses. Is that like. Just standard. Okay. To have been just a general public minutes or, I mean, it's public knowledge anyways, or. I mean, it just seems a lot of information there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see the ballots belonging to, um, it is public information because that is what's on the voter list. And people can look at the voter list. It's nothing that's, um, right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause we checked those people off the voter list for their appropriate precincts based on their addresses. All right. And it was read out loud when we were doing it. So. But other for me, otherwise I don't have, I mean, I don't have any information about the voter list. So I, I don't know if it was there. I don't know if it was there. So I really can't say anything about him. Yeah. Also, I will add at this one. I noticed doesn't have the footer for the board of registrars approved on the state. And I'll just add, I'll add the footer. Are there any corrections to be made for November 8th? Oh, I can make a motion to approve the minutes with Sue's addition of that footer. To the November 8th. 2021 minutes. Okay. I didn't know if Jackie was still looking. I was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Okay. Then Jamie, you want to make that motion? Sure. I moved to accept the minutes from November 8th, 2021 with Sue's addition of the footer. For the approval line. Yeah. I'll second that one. All right. It's been seconded all in favor. I. So Jackie's I. Jamie. I. I and D is I. And Sue. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get the next one up. That would be 1115. The only thing I really noted on this one was D did show up. I don't know. I don't know. Partway through. So I don't know if she should be into. The members president. Did she show up after we had handled the business? So it was still considering her absent. Good question. Yeah. Meeting hadn't been adjourned. As. No. I don't mind it reflecting that I was late and missed the vote, but the meeting had not. Okay. Yeah, that's a good question. I think I started, you know, no worries. Yep. Let's fix that. And there we go. Yeah. And it reflects that I arrived. Okay. Any other corrections. For additions. I don't have any on my end. Jackie. I don't have any either. Right. I. Sorry. Sorry. This one has to have a footer as well. Sorry. This is just, you know, administrative stuff. Yeah. So is the template changed or something? Or it was just. Trying to keep up. Don't always use a template. Oh, okay. Yeah. It depends on, this is a short, sweet little thing. So I just typed it. Oh, okay. Sometimes it's harder to work with something that pre exists and make it work before matting. You know what I'm saying? So. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Okay. I make a motion to accept the minutes. As amended from the November 15, 2021 meeting. Okay. I second it. Okay. Everyone's in favor. Yes. Okay. Jackie's I Jamie's I, I am I. And I am. I. Okay. All right. Okay. Let me save this one. And the last one. I just want to say this is the last set of minutes. However, we'll have today's set of minutes, which I can read to you all and we can approve them. And that way we've gotten. We're completely up to date. Okay. Yeah. All right. This one's long. Yeah. And hold on one second. I have to put a footer on that one too. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm ready. Yes. I'm ready. Scroll a little bit. Yes. Yes. Okay. Start top page two. Time to scroll again. Sure. Yes. Okay. Okay. I do have one question about the Evan Ross. You have 473. And then in the thing that was written, it's 474. So up here, total talent. So. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. I've got, yeah. Recount results and then election night results. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Jackie, I see I misspelled your name over here. I just noticed it. Okay. Oh my goodness. I'm not going to take it personally. I know. I type fast. Sometimes I miss things or I added extra things. I just. Yeah. When I was doing medical transcription, I had so many shortcut keys. I would type like three letters and it would spell out the whole. Yeah. 25 letter word. I got to get more of those going. So now when you finish reading. I'm all set. Jamie on my end. Jackie. I'm all set too. But I do have one question though, in regards to. Where these numbers for the seals, they were like verified there and where they verified again. I just want to make sure that the numbers are. Correct. That's all I guess I'm asking. I read them out loud when we put them on and wrote them down. So. Okay. Okay. That was it. Yeah. All right. At this point we've passed the 30 day retention anyway, and that's all been. That's true. You know, so. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. So anyone wants to make a motion for approval. I'm making a motion to approve the November 23rd. 2021 meeting minutes. I second that. Okay. Jackie. Hi. Hi. And D is I sue. Hi. Okay. All right. So the current, this meeting's minutes. Board of registrars December 14th, 2021. And then we started on the approval of four sets of minutes. And not including this one. The minutes of 927. Jackie Wagner. Made a motion to approve as amended. D Shebaugh seconded. Vote was. Unanimous. By roll call. And then the minutes of November 8th. And then we started on the approval of four sets of minutes and not including this one. The minutes of 927. Jackie Wagner. And then the minutes of November 8th. We voted, let's see, Jackie Wagner moved to approve as amended by. The amendment would be adding a footer. I mean, Jamie, Jamie. I said Jackie. Oh my God. I did. Sorry. Sorry. I've got, I'm using JWJG and DS. Right at all. Get ready to say, you know, they're lovely family, but. Sorry. So the first one was a Jamie made the move. Motion to approve the second one. Jamie made the motion to approve. And Jackie seconded and vote was. Unanimous by roll call. November 15th minutes. We voted. Jamie made a motion to approve as amended by adding the footer. D seconded that one. Voted all in favor. It was unanimous by roll call. And then November 23rd. Jackie. Made a motion to approve. And. To approve. As amended and Jamie seconded it. And we voted all in favor favor unanimously. So that's what I have for. Minutes. With the exception of, of course, when the, this meeting will close. So our adjourn. I move to. The minutes from today's meeting is to just read to us. I second. Okay. No matter. All right. All in favor. Hi. Okay. Jackie, Jamie say, hi. Hi. Sue. Hi. All right. All right. Hold on. Unanimous. Okay. Okay. All right. And then the last thing on our agenda is. Sorry. You're stupid doing this to you, not me. Sorry. Well, since I can't find the. Agenda on the town hall website. You know, I don't know why you have to go through calendar. Yeah. Logical. Okay. So I didn't go through calendar. I looked up board of registrar, so it just doesn't. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So anyway. Is it public open again to public comment or. No, actually it was any other topics. That we may want to bring up. I don't have. Yeah. When we're meeting again. Once. You're muted, Jamie. Sorry, I was talking to my daughter. Okay. For the following year. When we will meet again, one of the things I would, like I said, I would like to do is. Make the board of registrars like an FAQ. So folks kind of understand what happens during an election. You know, and particularly post election. So, you know, leading up to election post election. And they have a clear sense of procedure. So that's something that I don't think a meeting would have to be called maybe to approve it for every, you know, for the board of registrars to represent us as a whole. But. So that's my suggestion. Yeah, we had talked about that at the meeting where we were counting the ballot. So yeah, January is a nice. Quiet month. We can, we can just email each other and. You know, unless everybody wants to. Way in on it, but. We'll go for. The same name of vote on, on that particular thing. Because I think that it, again, it could cause like a lot of confusion. And also a lot of times too, do you want like the. The council to like look over what we have or what's the process going to be? Because it seems like. We're sort of like stepping into the territory of the election department. I don't know what that's going to be. But. I don't know what that's going to be. I think it's going to be a lot of jurisdiction. So personally, I wouldn't be in favor of it. But I'd have to see what, what you're talking about too. Because a lot of times this stuff has already been like Q and aid. They got a lot of stuff on the election sites and maybe even meeting somebody with the election department and asking what their opinions are. And that kind of thing before just barging ahead and. Getting something that could blow up in our faces. So basically these are all part of not only election law, but the bylaws and we're simply putting it into an FAQ. She to put on the website. And this is what I'm saying. Somebody else should be looking at it and they may already be something already out and available that can be already put there. And that's what I'm talking about. Because I don't want any conflicts between what's already out there and what we're putting out there. Well, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want that either. Okay. What I'm saying is that we create something comprehensive. And streamline that people could reference. Quickly and easily. And. You know, that's something that would have to be of course. Looked at. You know, you know, you know, my town officials and not to mention, Sue, of course, we'd make this together. But if necessary. You know, election officials as well. And then we would. Again, I'm suggesting as our own procedure. Is that we would look at it together. Call a meeting to look at it together. And have a consensus. Yeah. Well, I have a dissenting vote on that. And also when you're looking at the types of things of what the, but the purpose of the board of registers and things like that. Doesn't really address those kinds of things either. Like we're responsible for putting out. You know, stuff. Because again, to me, you're infringing on the election department's toes on this one. So it's really to represent what the board of registrars does. Okay. Well, if you all want to do it, fine, but I'm not. I'm not in favor of it. Well, why don't we, why don't we sit down and meet and come up with something and see what we're thinking of and see if it's, it's something that's actually helpful to the public. It sounds like the whole purpose of doing something like this is to bring awareness to post-election tasks. And that's something that our office does. So maybe we could do that for something together and then come together as a board and either say, yeah, this is a good thing. Or I don't see how this is helpful. Yeah, before we do anything further with it. You know, I'm all for the education as well. And this is. It's not an education. I felt that someone said that last time and that's not what I was talking about. And we're talking about that as far as like to me as far as like the confusion, conflict, and no one mentioned bringing it before the town council. No one mentioned about going into the, the department of elections. It sounded like it was something that oh, this sounds like it's a good idea. Let's do it. But there was no background on how it was going to be done, what the process is, and whether or not it's going to be in conflict with any of the current laws that are there. Yeah, no, this is, this is obviously new. So, um, we, again, I'm out. I'm out. So one of the real quick one of the things that I've been looking at and it's since the redistricting group met and Sue was part of that group. I was part of that group. Um, Peggy Shannon, who was part of that group had contacted Mindy Dom. And we've all been in conversation about how to educate particularly not only the public so that they have a sense of trust for some, because some don't, you know, and I think that's, you know, I think Sue had even stated it's part of a national issue, but it's also part of a local issue. And so having clarity in terms of process would help with that. And Mindy Dom and I and some others are going to begin figuring out groups to work with on college campuses, particularly UMass, and how to educate young people about the election process. So I see this in personally as an extension of some of the community work I've committed to. So, you know, again, whether it's a good idea or not, I think having transparency, educating, you know, folks on the process is a positive thing, no matter what. And again, I'm not disputing the issue of transparency or education. I just think that was a slippery slope that we're going up right now, because no one will ever really trust the government. That's for sure. We know it's interesting is before every election I do put out a fact I did before this election. And just there are so many things to cover, you know, one fact is not a cover all. And the one I did was on how to get absentee ballots and how to vote early and all that portion and that went on the town website. And, you know, this is on the state there are the information's out there in multi places and I know what you're saying you don't want to be putting it out on your own place and it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, quoting something wrong on the state level on the local level so I know that's we got to be careful with that but also, and like you said to if you can point to people to the state level, and they can find it easy enough, that's great too but I think people just tend to go on the town website and want to look for it there and not have to dig further. So, um, one of the things though, if you do go on to the election department website is fantastic. If you can the states, I know. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, everything that's there. So I think people don't know where to go. You know, I think people don't know where to even start though, but this is what when I was getting ready to say to you can make like some cross links or references to where to look for these ideas that I will object to but some of this other stuff is like this That's, that's already done. That's done. It's already on our town website. Yeah, this link to get the information on this click this link to get the that's done. So I think identifying what we're trying to come up with and if it's already done in piecemeal maybe we can pull something together one place to make it work concise. Comprehensive or people could read it and certainly look for further information. I think if we, you know, not to say I'm just saying anecdotally survey folks or talk to folks in the town. We're going to go on the town website and look for this information and are frustrated like I was looking for the recorded video and then found some breaks in the links, you know, which I then contacted Angela Mills, you know, at town hall to let her know about it. Since the break in those links had to do with Amherst media, which is a group I'm affiliated with. So folks often don't have the time or are just going to complain because they they they're not finding what they need easily. And I just think on our end, since we are part of this group, if we could help add to the ease of, you know, information finding, particularly to our committee and our group that that would be useful. So if you're willing to meet with me, Sue, and we come up with, you know, something streamlined, even when it refers to the state laws. I'd be willing to do that. And then like I said, we could present something to our group so that it would represent those who want to participate in this process. Yeah, I'll send you an email in January after the holidays are over and we can set something up. Okay, any other items to discuss? I don't have anything. Okay, well, happy Kwanzaa happy holidays and see you all next year I'll look for your email Sue. And I guess we just need to have someone make a motion to end the meeting. I moved to adjourn today's meeting. Jackie, did you want a second. I thought you were, you were making the motion and Jamie was seconded. Oh, well no, I, that's, that's how I was. Okay, I'm making a suggestion that you're making a suggestion to make the motion. I got confused. So a second the motion, or you're seconding that Jamie whichever one you want to put Sue. I was in favor of leaving. I, I, I am in favor so okay. So if it's roll call I as well Jamie. Hi, Jackie. Alrighty. All right. Happy holidays everybody. See you on the flip side. Okay. Okay.