 three satanists, one hindu, one muslim, and one christian pastor all have a discussion about their beliefs and faith. this is gonna be interesting. i respond and react. let's go. hey how's it going guys? my name is isek david and this is the daily disciple. if you don't know if you're new to this channel you don't know what's going on. um this is where i help you follow jesus daily on this channel subscribe subscribe subscribe because i'm making new videos all the time. every single week on thursday so stay tuned for more videos and especially part two of this video. anyway we're gonna get into the video first. i just want to give a huge shout out to my patrons on patreon. um you guys are amazing. patreon is what basically keeps this ministry going and growing. um it's my biggest source of just support so thank you so much for you guys who are on patreon giving monthly. if you want to head on over to patreon.com slash daily underscore and give a pledge monthly pledge that would be amazing. it is my goal to be able to do this full time and you would help me do that. now on to the video. so for a little bit of backstory i don't really know a whole lot about satanism. i watched um living wanders had a series called way of the master. uh it was a television program where they did a bunch of different programs on different world religions actually interviewed a bunch of people. there was one on satanism and i remember being something like very similar to just humanism so it's not that they're worshiping satan but it's kind of this idea of satan giving knowledge to adam and eve so that's why they see satan as this kind of figure of knowledge and truth seeking and maybe skepticism so um that's just a little bit of a preface but let's go in let's see what's going on this i'm sure this is going to be interesting you're not going to want to miss this when i think of abrahamic faith i think of slaughtering and burnings and mutilations all in the name of god so i just want you to notice that he's already making judgments against god he's using his own subjective moral moral standard to make objections about god for for his apparent crimes or any kind of abrahamic religion that's that's doing something wrong and so i just want you to be asking yourself this one question as we go out through today when anybody that is not a christian is saying something is wrong or it's mean or it's or it's evil i want you to be asking yourself this question by what standard by what standard are they appealing to because what i have a feeling is a lot of these satanists are going to continue to appeal back to their own sense of good and evil as opposed to something objective steady unchanging and so we gotta look at the foundations of their reason of their morality um because that's really the basis of their worldview and ultimately that's where their worldview crumbles hell is a real place i don't actually know like when i try to think of what hell looks like to me i don't think it's how it's been in movies or people just talk about like them some fiery inferno i believe in an afterlife where there is a kind of a good place in a bad place where what you do here kind of determines where you're going to end up yeah one of the signs that there is something greater than us out there is that we see something beautiful that we want someone to express our thanksgiving to and our worship towards and in the same way on the opposite end of the spectrum uh when there are terrible deeds or acts that are committed by humans towards one another that there also needs to be a place of of justice and so i yeah i believe that there is a heaven and that there is a hell and that the gift of grace that god offers us is so generous that that for those who reject it that there has to be a place of judgment so yeah so is hell a real place here in mark uh 943 it says and if your hand causes you to sin cut it off it is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell to the unquenchable fire see the bible is really clear about the fact that there is a hell and i agree with this pastor when he's talking about the fact that we all understand whether that you know this is kind of an innate thing wired into maybe part of our conscience where we know look evil must be done away with in some just way we know we're reaching for the sense of justice we know based on our moral you know conscience god's law laid upon our heart we know there needs to be a punishment for evil and so the the the idea of hell actually isn't that crazy of an idea because we all have this the sense because we're made in the image of god that there needs to be justice so the law of god was actually fulfilled in jesus for those who believe in him so we are held under the law of god right we're held this standard we can't meet this standard but because of jesus dying on the cross when we trust in him he is our substitute who is fulfilled the law of himself and because of that he's taken the penalty for our sin on himself and we can trust him for eternal life and actually to be reborn born again in his spirit personally i would never worship a god they would send someone to an eternal lake of fire to be burned forever for the simple fact of non-belief when that deity knows what it would take to convince every single person on this planet that is cruel it is inhumane it is not kind it is not generous and that is not a god worthy of worship okay once again the satanist here this fellow um he's very you know he's dressed up in his very nice interesting attire almost cosplaying a satanist in some way i guess you could say um but but he fits he fits this kind of this stereotype of a of a satanist the twisty mustache and once again like i pointed out at the beginning he is appealing to his own sense of morality so he's appealing to the standard of morality saying hey god is mean god is just like not just that's not nice that's evil once again where is he finding his sense of morality from because based on what i'm seeing it's all just coming from himself and when you begin to abandon the bible the ultimate truth jesus said he is the way the truth in life you're left with just this changing maybe based on culture or based on how you're feeling that day it's it's honestly sad it's honestly sad because there are there is a standard there is god's law that we can look to and we can look to his character too to see what is good and right and wrong and we are no we are in no position to start accusing god of being evil when we ourselves have no foundation to stand on without him what's more it would be damning all i mean the vast majority of everyone who's ever existed for not believing in him for a set of rules that he created so the satanist rightly points out that hey look wouldn't most people be going to hell if this is all true and in matthew 713 it actually points that out yeah it says why is the road to destruction but narrow is the road that leads to life and and so yeah it's kind of a it for me and i think for every kind of christian and person that begins to realize this truth it is a wake up call because it says hey look if most people are going to hell and we are called to be laborers to to go out there and reap the harvest um this is a great and an amazing task but it's an also an urgent task to share the gospel the great commission um because yeah people are perishing and and why does the gate why does the road that leads to destruction we ought to be warning people and say yeah this is true but there is hope in jesus there is a way to eternal life and it's not based on just trying to be a morally upright person or a woke person it's about trusting in jesus and and seeing his truth and his moral foundation impact the way that we live our lives now now we have a foundation to stand on instead of just our own subjective opinion oh i think this is right oh i think this is wrong oh that seems evil we have god's foundation which is the ultimate true foundation to live our lives believe that in the event that we have spirits and they will go on to some other realm it's probably more of a nebulous place than a physical hell lake fire everything i don't even believe we have souls necessarily i'd like to see some evidence like i barely believe that we're even conscious like i'm about to have an existential crisis up here when i was watching this video it kind of caught me off guard because um like he's she's saying in kind of a funny way but like she's having an existential crisis um in terms of are we really real and these are questions that yeah maybe you've asked yourself too are we really real and i think this is a kind of a a common maybe an analogy or just an example of what happens when we abandon the truth of god when we go on our own way when we try to find out hey what how if without god how do we know what we know and how do we know that our reasoning is is real and how do we know if we're we're we're even living right now and all these kind of existential questions pile up on one another i recently watched the matrix and it kind of consisted of this idea that we are all in a simulation elon musk um famous entrepreneur um uh me and your founder of tesla and spacex and all i watched a documentary on him but he believes that we're in a simulation without god without the god standard without god's truth which is the only truth is god's truth without that then we're just subject to kind of almost in this meaningless trying to find out what life is about are we really real or we're asking these questions but god says yeah we are really real and we're created in his image we're here to glorify god we'll talk about that a little bit later but there is answers available and my heart goes out to these people that having these existential you know crises because because they're asking these questions and they're not looking to the source that has the answers our cold christian position is is that the gift of the the invitation that god gives to the people that he made is so generous and came at such a high price to a high price he gave up a weekend that uh he gave up a weekend right he took a weekend this to me just highlights a little bit of the a little bit of the what what should i say ignorance ignorance of the satanist because if you look in the scripture at all isaia 53 3 highlighting the pain suffering agony that jesus went through this was not god coming up and not experiencing any pain it wasn't just god just going through life because he's god and just doing his you know he was fully god and fully man and i think that's being underestimated here he experienced pain he experienced hurt he experienced tremendous suffering for our sake he was god before yeah yeah he was god during and he's god now he gave up a weekend if i knew right now that i could go off and die and then not die how where's the gift in that number one i'm able to look at the the grace that has been extended to me and i and yeah and i received it i want to make sure i can get up yes okay so the way that i would commonly think of it is is that if i gave up the life of of my own son in exchange for your life that that is okay then for me to to make the the invitation that god makes towards us is that moral is it moral is it moral on a corporeal level jesus took on the the penalty that i deserved for the the sins that i committed if if we're looking at you know the traditional christian faith and so i receive his gift of grace and as as a payment for for the things that i had done so your question is it moral or is it just is it fair i'm able as a christian to say no it's not fair um because i deserve the punishment that he took on himself yeah he asked okay is that moral is it moral well it is just jesus fulfilled the law um in order to save us and that was the ultimate fulfillment of justice and by his stripes we are justified in him so now we are no longer called guilty to be justified means to be made right with and by jesus we were made right with god so is that moral well it is just and you know what also is just is us spending eternity in a lake of fire without jesus because that is justice being fulfilled you were just as either fulfilled in your punishment or in your salvation and that's a tough truth but we have to be holding on to that because that is that is the gospel that that is the truth of in the reality of our world i believe there is a higher purpose in life i mean yeah i think i strongly believe there's a higher purpose in life i don't think i found it yet and i hope i am i would like to believe that i will one day in the journey of my life i completely agree i don't i don't know what my purpose is and i don't think it's there's like a higher purpose that fits for everybody but to me the the idea that there's some bigger purpose has always been very comforting to me otherwise kind of what's the point of all of this no i fully agree i think that i believe it's a question that we all ask and it's one of the gifts of faith in my in my opinion so that when there's times of epidemic and war pandemic pandemic you're right that's a better worldwide pandemic that that we're able to understand even in those situations of difficulty and conflict and and anxiety and fear that there is a higher purpose in life and that that there's more than than what we see is there a higher purpose now this is interesting to me because i mean i i kind of understand where these you know these satanists are coming from from a humanistic perspective if we're all quote-unquote star dust if we have no true creator we're just kind of chemical reactions no better than animals is there an ultimate purpose for us well preachers and the chemical reactions born out of random chance really have no higher purpose so i understand why they're not you know they're standing back you know neil degras tyson said in an interview in talking about meaning and purpose he was really just saying you know what you create your own meaning and purpose there is no higher ultimate purpose you find that where you want to for the hindu and muslim they're saying hey there is a higher purpose but it's something you discover and i kind of understand this but they may be conflating two things as a christian i would say we have an ultimate purpose the west mister confession of faith talks about the fact that we are purpose as humans is to glorify god and enjoy him forever that's our ultimate purpose now we may think we sometimes talk about our purpose on this earth so whether you're working for an organization you're like this is my purpose that's what i'm supposed to be doing um and i understand hey that kind of purpose yeah you do discover that you at different points in your life you have different purposes small p purposes but ultimate purpose doesn't change we're here to glorify god we're not just here to discover what our small p purpose is but it's to step into our ultimate purpose and we can do that through lots of different purposes we have throughout our life i hope that makes sense um christian is not just this thing where you're trying to figure out what we're supposed to be doing ultimately ultimately our purpose is to glorify god now your job is just to look in the bible look at your opportunities and say how can i do that today i trouble with the phraseology higher purpose because that again that denotes do i believe god no but i do believe higher purpose as in love to give to be generous to be kind to help to heal to be there to understand this is interesting to me and i think you'll see this this this play out with a lot of people not just satanist and and maybe maybe one of our lessons in this particular video could be satanists aren't that like you know devil worshiping chanting all this kind of thing but they are actually very similar to the average person on the street this fellow's died sounds to be love you know in his in his definition of love he says you know i my purpose is to is to love to be kind to you know to help people to listen um those are things based on his own standard of of good and right and wrong those are things in in in love as well he is building his foundation is his world view off of the his own definition of those things and those things have become his god and where do those things come from while they come from him so he has become his own god and that is kind of the basis of humanism is that as a humanist you are focused on the value that humans place on each other and the things that and as humanist really humans are at the center um and and for some it may be kind of a nihilistic perspective like look there really is no higher purpose humans may be at the center as if we're because we're the most evolved life forms but ultimately you know it doesn't matter and i think you know um a lot of people make love their god but we need to be pointing them to who defines love and ultimately that is god who truly defines what true love is well this has been a ride but i want to let you know that there's going to be a part two next week let's go because this video that we're reacting to is so long we gotta do a part two and believe me it gets even more interesting in part two so you're gonna want to subscribe so you can watch that thank you so much for watching guys um i hope this was helpful for you in your kind of walk and whatever you're going through whether you're a christian or whether you're just kind of looking into it i hope this helped you in some way and give a like down below if you enjoyed this video i hope you guys are enjoying these kind of reaction videos um i'm having a lot a lot of fun doing them and uh and yeah anyway follow me on instagram if you haven't already at um it's isak david that's my you can follow me on tiktok to um at it's isak david too look at me and you know what else we got going on i have 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