 I'm here in the studio this morning with Minister Ivo Ivanovsky, he's the Minister of Information Society and Administration of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Ivo, welcome. You've been nominated today to serve as chair of the Fifth World Telecommunication Policy Forum, which focuses on internet-related public policy issues. Can you tell us how the chair is selected and what your role will be during the next three days of debate? Good afternoon, Sara. Yes, it's been a great honor to be nominated as chairman of the Fifth World Telecommunication Policy Forum. It is a process where all the member states, by consensus, they select a chair, which chair will have to go through the next three days and work with the working groups, with the member states, with the sector members, in order to accomplish the opinions which are presented to the people at the conference for the next three days. With the working groups, the three working groups, we will try to accomplish where all the opinions are with a consensus achieved at the end of the conference so we can have a successful conference. Those opinions, and I think there are six, that is the output of this forum, isn't it? Correct. The output of the forum are the opinions, which have been pre-selected by an expert group who have been working on this for a long time, with consultations with a lot of sector members, with non-governmental organizations, with all the participants in today's society, the information society that we live in, in order to achieve with opinions which can be brought together on the World Telecommunication Policy Forum. It's a very interesting issue, internet-related public policy. It just generates normally a lot of debate. What do you predict will be the really hot topics around the forum? Do you think we'll see a repeat of the polarized debates that we saw last year in the Wicked Conference in December in Dubai? I do expect that some of that conversation will continue from Dubai to the policy forum in Geneva. The role of the governments who have in the governance of the internet will continue to be a debate among the same countries that carry the same conversation in Dubai. I expect that at the end we will find a mutual language where all the participants will be satisfied within the results in order to bring those opinions with a consensus and carry on with future development of the internet. It's a very open meeting, the WTPF, quite different from the big treaty-making conferences that I too sometimes run. We have official contributions from a lot of different stakeholders and membership that was, as you mentioned, a preparatory informal experts group that was open to any interested party. Why is it important to have such a broad-based discussion? Doesn't that risk getting everything a little unfocused? Well, it does risk, but on the other hand this kind of policies, open policies, forums are very productive because you get to hear everybody's voice. And that is the idea in order to continue the growth of the information telecommunication sectors in order to continue the growth of the internet you have to hear all the parties and that's the only fair way to do it. This openness presents a brand new idea sometimes and also goes back and revises the old systems, the old idea, how they were set up in order to continue with the development of the economies and to continue with broadband penetration. The Broadband Commission for Digital Development has set new goals for countries to achieve by 2020 in order to grow the economies in the countries to have a better health care, to have a better education, to have better telecom sectors. Eva, you're one of the founding members of that Broadband Commission for Digital Development and I think you're one of the most active members as well. Macedonia itself has been extremely proactive in rolling out information technology, Wi-Fi, public access systems. Could you tell us a little bit about what you've been doing and why does your country believe this is so important? It has been a great honor for me personally and for my country, the Republic of Macedonia to be in the beginning of the setup of the Broadband Commission for Digital Development. We are continuing to invest in the information communication sector because we have seen the value of that sector who will help the rest of the sectors with the growth much faster than any other investment that we can do. We are expecting right now in the next few days to have the switch of the analog to digital TV in order to release the digital dividend. The due date for us is June 1, 2013. We are very much prepared for that and at the moment we also carry on with the request for purchase for 4G. We have three mobile operators, they all operate with 3G. Now we expect that hopefully all of them or some of them will carry on and invest in a 4G infrastructure in order for the citizens of the Republic of Macedonia to have a brand new infrastructure much faster than the 3G so they can continue with development of their own personal life and their own family economy in a way. It is indeed actually one of the most connected countries I've ever visited with Wi-Fi available publicly available almost everywhere throughout the country. What will you do with this new digital dividend? What will that be used for? The digital dividend besides the 4G is very much used to continue the improvement that we have done in education and healthcare. We have invested over 5% of our GDP in education and similarly in healthcare in the past few years and we have seen incredible results especially in the education by installing the computers and the laptops for every student where our ratio right now is 1.4 to 1. There have been students who have been using the laptops from 1st to 3rd grade for already 5 years now and we can see a drastic improvement in their skills drastic improvements in their competences and the drastic improvements for their willingness to learn by giving them this kind of tool the modern tool of the 21st century we hope that our students, our citizens who when they grow up will be very much competitive with the rest of the world. Ivo Ebenovsky, very best wishes for the next three days of discussion. We'll come back to you at the end of the forum and thank you for joining us today. Thank you very much.