 on the ground. Presented by theCUBE, here's your host, John Furrier. Okay, hello everyone. We are on the ground in Seattle for IBM's Open Computing Architecture Summit. The future's so bright, we got to wear shades. I'm John Furrier, the host of theCUBE, with Jesse Proudman, CEO of Bluebox. Now, I don't know what your title is at IBM. IBM Distinguished Engineer and CTO of the IBM Bluebox product. Okay, when you get acquired by IBM, they give you a big, long ass title. Congratulations. Thank you. All right, so the update on Bluebox, obviously the integration's done. You guys are embedded in. You got some more headcount budget. You're fully funded. What's new? I mean, obviously Docker Madness, really talking about applications. What's under the hood? You know, I think it's been, for us, it's been a year of integration. I mean, that's been the entire year. The team has tripled. We've really done an incredible job integrating the technology into the broader IBM community. So now the Bluebox platform is underpinning a bunch of other IBM offerings, which is pretty neat. IBM itself, for example, uses GitHub Enterprise and that offering for all of IBM runs on top of a Bluebox installation. So it's been really a question of how do we build this layer? Okay, we've been talking about for the last year with Bluebox at the foundation. You feel excited now. You got the backing of IBM, sales, engineering. What's the new technology that you guys are bringing into the Bluebox that you're taking from IBM? Must be some new stuff you're integrating in. What's the coolest thing you got going on? Yeah, it's a great question. So I think that this notion of public dedicated and local where we've got three consumption methodologies and three different geographies or wherever you want to put them, but delivered all as a service has really been, it was the reason we were interested in IBM and it's been the reason we've been excited about IBM over this last year. And so now the question is, how do we bring the rest of those IBM pieces on top of our stack? And so we've got container services coming. We've got lottery and metrics coming. We've got a bunch of other, the service catalog that supplements what's in open stack is the next big push for us. And what is this open cloud architecture summit all about? Share with the audience, what's this event here? It's obviously bolted on the day after DockerCon, so application containers and container management is kicking ass, big rage there, a lot of interest. What's this event about? Yeah, it's a great question. So if you look at the cloud ecosystem, all of the big vendors out there are building proprietary sets of technology. And at IBM, we really believe that the infrastructure and the actual code that underpins everything that we're doing should be open. And by making that open, customers have the ability to choose, do I want to work with IBM because I'm getting value from the service or do I want to try and do things on my own? And so this day is really about sharing the technology, the pieces that we're using and how we're using them so that customers can make a decision about where they want to pick those pieces into their infrastructure. What's your take on DockerCon? We just were there live with theCUBE. I want to get your thoughts. We never had a chance to bring you on theCUBE because we're busy, everyone thing was full. I was out of town. You were out of town? I was out of town for DockerCon. What's your take on this whole ecosystem? You know, I think Docker is one of the most phenomenal stories in this space, the infrastructure space over the last couple years. If you look at sort of the pivot they made from the platform as a service into actual Docker and then the rise of popularity in the technology, it's an incredible story. The challenge everybody's experiencing right now is going from using a single container in development to thinking about how we deploy and manage a lot of this infrastructure at scale. There's big companies like Google that have these things figured out and then there's everybody else that's trying to figure out all the additional pieces. So how do we monitor the containers? How do we ensure they're being restarted? How do we collect logs? How do we do governance? All those pieces that sort of been figured out for VMs over the last couple years now need to be figured out for containers and there's a lot of work to do there and that's where we're seeing all this investment into new companies in the ecosystem occur. What about OpenStack? What's your take on the current state OpenStack? Yeah, you know, OpenStack is super boring now which I think is actually a great thing. So this is my commentary from this last summit in Austin. There was no controversy. There was, everybody was there and the customers were there and we were all fine with it. And I think that's, it's a good place to be after six years. So maturing. Right. Maturing not in a bad way. Right, no, it's a good boring. It's a great boring. And it's works, right? There's nothing to argue about any more to a large extent. And so now it's the question of continuing to push for stability, continuing to push for performance. All the key pieces that if you're going to use this kind of technology as the foundation for something need to continue to be there. But yeah, I think all the, sort of all the excitement and the drama is now up the stack in other portions. Final question. What are you guys going to be doing over the next year? What are the new things on the horizon that you could share? Yeah, it's a great question. We've got a new product that's in work. So we can't talk about it yet but it is a variance on the technology that we've been, we've written over the last couple of years and we think customers will really dig it. Jesse, thanks for taking the time. We're here on the ground. This is theCUBE here in Seattle for the IBM Open Computing Architecture Summit day after DockerCon. This is theCUBE on the ground. Thanks for watching.