 Questo è l'inglese. Ci stanno fabbunando il canale inglese. Canale inglese, seconda console. Allora, il canale inglese di una cabina, poi... English, one test, test English. Vi torni un attimo in italiano? Non ha senso. In più, sì, in più l'altro. Che cosa succede? Che lei è il tuo riferimento assoluto sul palco. Quindi è lei la persona che farai l'incroco di condottare. È l'unico riferimento assoluto sul palco. Lei è la persona che farà l'incroco di condottare. Cioè, non diamo due. Non diamo due a zona. Uno e due a zona. Lei è la persona che farà l'incroco di condottare. Buonasera. Buongiorno. Buongiorno. E... E... E... E... E... E... E... E... E... Non wearingGO. those who didn't play from the teachers of that's why we've been giving a few extra minutes, so that people could actually make it inside. What's going on What is going on? At work at my life? I looked for freedom. I tried to abide by human nature at best, e lavorare hard to achieve the goals I set to myself and achieving the necessary means to satisfy my desires and contribute to the development of the planet. I always wanted to be the man I became, but everything is very different from what I had in mind. My thoughts, the day would have arrived in which I could live happily, but that does not seem to be the case. I am just running after money, banks, taxes. If I get distracted for a second they'll take everything away from me. I've become the servant of my own power. I was supposed to make me free, but instead it's a cage that I don't seem to evade not even when I'm on holiday. Now, if I wear a nice late at case, that would be fine. You pay the price for your actions. But here everything is falling apart. No one can pay for this. How can I build anything? Everything is falling apart. How can I feel fine? Everyone is scared and afraid. They say that's the crisis, but the crisis should be just a face. This has been going on for years. I was young when it started and now I'm getting older and this cage is becoming tighter and tighter every day. I can no longer wait. It's impossible that there is no way out that I can take my life back into my hands and change something of it. But I don't see a way out. I find no alternatives. Speeding and speeding, but I just, I'm just repeating myself. Where did I get it wrong? What did I do wrong? I was supposed to be happy, but to be quite honest, this is a dog's life. I think the first thing is that you should get rid of this sense of superiority towards other animals. That would help you in realizing that you are not different and that these days have nothing special. If your grandparents thought that they were no alternatives, when in Europe it was normal for poor people to die of curable diseases, for women not to have a right to vote, or for the white man to enslave anyone with a different color of the skin, well if they thought so, probably we would still be living in the past. And when it comes to the present, I'm afraid you are not smart enough to understand that a world where everyone only does his own interest cannot function. A world where everyone abuses of what he or she has. You turned off your brain to the point that you don't realize that at the root of your catastrophe, your own illusions, the illusion to believe that making money and markets were the only possible ways to achieve collective happiness. It's been for at least 100 years now in places like this, we've been repeating that what is really criminal is to open a bank and not to rob it. But of course the problem is that too many people seem to have forgot this. Do you know what grandparents told their grandchildren 100 years ago? Marta, do you want to tell him? Well yes, maybe we could start redistributing work and working times, meaning going to the heart of inequalities. And so somehow try to make the real contradictions a surface and so for example when it comes to the distribution between profit and wages. And redistribution would help us in reducing the social pressure of the industrial reserves basically. But we need revolution in order to do that when it comes to the labour market, in order to get rid of the Italian jobs act or of the labor work. And of all that was produced on this front in the past 25 years in Europe. But if those are the conflicts that need to arise, well in order to do this we need to go back to the working place and we need to be political once again. Well it feels to me that you're really not respecting what I do and all the hard work we do in order to create jobs because you don't create work. It doesn't exist, you have to create it. Well I'm afraid that you're a little bit confused. Work is not simply being employed for someone else and it's not even just a way to accumulate money. Work is the activity through which we all contribute to the material and spiritual development of our societies. Or at least that is what it should be in theory. If we were just speaking of a number of actions aimed at accumulating wealth for the benefit of just a few, well then what kind of freedom? How could that make us free? Because freedom is not something that is on sale, it's something that we build and we defend with others. Let's just take a normal citizen doing her job. Let's imagine that just out of the blue she decides to take action to support thousands of people who arrive every day in a state that does not intend to welcome them. Andrea, what do you think of this? Mark Twain used to say, well, you'll be told about the dignity of your work. Well, that's bullshit. It's the dignity you find it in your leisure time. And it was a journalist from San Francisco Chronicle that asked him about the quotation. Mark Twain answered, well, I was saying that in your leisure time, in your free time, you can think of about a job that would make you happier even though it's not paid for. And this makes me think that when we have worked with the activists of Baobab Experience, we work with the communities trying to help the migrants who are here temporarily in Ramo where institutions fail to help them. And I've seen that in the Greek Islands, in the Scandinavian countries in the Arctic Circle, where men and women try to play their part and improve the lives of their fellow men. Can this be viewed as work or I don't know really. It's something which is meant to build something. So, when you set a demolisher wall, that's work. If you bring down the borders or the frontiers, that's work. Well, you have to build solidarity, reception, culture. And by the same token, it is work when used to convert mathematical figures, statistical figures into human beings with their histories, with their faces, with their background, with their dreams. So, the job of an activist can be extremely useful to build a different Europe, the one we sort of dream of and would very much wish to be. And that is what you feel when you sort of go to camps that are managed by associations and groups that work with migrants and are not employed to try and give an answer to migration. We know pretty well that we can't talk about invading a country or other. We want to work on receiving and accepting the migrants. And Europe could be certainly more responsive to that and welcome them. And I think this kind of job could be far more interesting and exciting than a legislative work which quite often fails to understand the reasons for which people migrate and the reasons for which you should work for Europe when Europe receives and welcomes these people. Well, but work is a commodity, isn't it a commodity? Well, I'm glad you have doubts. I'm always in doubt. I don't know what to do, but at the end of the day you do something. Yes, I've always known what to do and I continue to do that, but it doesn't seem to work any longer. I seem to have lost ground. My feeling is that you're there sitting and thinking about today's life. We'll be the eyes of the past. That's why you don't go ahead. You don't make any progress. Try and look out to the future. What will our grandchildren say about a system where 1% of the population owns 95% of global wealth in tax havens, hidden in tax havens? Well, millions of people are forced to queue up to get a free meal. A system in which allows the massacre of thousands of human people that cross the desert and cross the sea, hoping to be queuing up for a free meal where the expression of human waste refers to men and women that drown in a sea of plastic waste. It's a time of contradiction and risk. This is not a time of surrender. It's a time of courage and commitment. Come with us and join us. Europe is perhaps one of the richest culturally advanced sectors of the world. What happens in Europe is of great significance. For centuries Europe was the most savage place in the world. Back to the 30 years war, the 17th century, probably maybe a third of the population in Germany was slaughtered. 20th century, of course, a total horror. Finally, that seems to have ended with the European project. That's a step of extraordinary significance. If that internal savagery of Europe, which of course was exported to the rest of the world, that's imperialism, colonialism, if that's contained and Europe becomes a progressive force in the world, as it began to be with the European project, spearheading welfare state measures and so on. That's of enormous significance. If that breaks up, it's a terrible disaster for the world. So what happens to Europe today? I think it's poised at the brink of breaking up on the one hand and moving forward in the other. It's a choice that will have to be made internal to Europe. There are forces in both directions. There are positive elements. I think, as we said before, GM25 is the most promising of them that I know of. The development since the elections in Barcelona, the Podemos, others that we know about. They could pave the way to a revival of the European project, which would overcome the very significant flaws and build upon the promise that has partially been achieved and could go forward. Or it could break up and we could return to a world that is not likely to survive, frankly. Noam Chomsky and the Board of Advisors of GM25. Noam Chomsky and the Board of Advisors of GM25. Welcome to you all. Non siete i soli, 27 capi di Stato Europa. Also 27 leaders of the EU came to Rome today to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the treaty. 28 leaders were supposed to be here, but then Theresa May did not show up because she decided to accelerate the Brexit process. The British have developed themselves so much that they know how to prepare a cappuccino on their own so they no longer need foreign name workers. But there were also a lot of people who took to the streets today asking for Europe to change because you have a Europe where one people out of three is at risk of poverty. It's a Europe that is not functioning. A Europe that opens its doors to tax evaders and shuts its doors to migrants. It's a Europe which does not work. One where we have 123 million people at risk of poverty and 300 super rich guys is a Europe which does not work. A Europe like this is not up to its task. I am not up to this task as well to make an example. I am not to just... Europe is not fit for its job as much as Barbara Durza is not fit to run programs on Italian television and you might know that old Sopala Perego, another Italian anchor woman, and was just being fired because she wasn't up to its task just as much as Europe was not. Marine Le Pen has been recently saying that, speaking of Italy, Marine Le Pen e Salvini were saying that Italy could only be saved if we shut Italy's doors to foreigners and I agreed with them when they said that but I thought that the moment was to actually shut our borders before Salvini came back home. But in fact, instead what the leaders are saying that is that we can go on with business as usual and that we have to be patient. We shouldn't worry because things are going to change. Never mind if we have workers in Italy earning 500 euros a year. Anyway, we will wait some say that we should insist for example in Italy with the voucher system as a way to pay people instead of a normal labour contract but they are saying that they are now going to abolish vouchers but our prime minister said that's too bad because that was a good way to pay to give a little bit of pocket money to unemployed people and that's too bad because now we're going to be forced to give Mr Alfano a proper labour contract. But anyway, what we think is that we should not insist instead with the neoliberal policies that financial elites love so much and that the social democratic political parties that put those elites in power seem to be so glad about now but we also think that the solution is not nationalism and the solution is not a decree that has been passed by a ministry of the interior about the fact that asylum seekers should be put to work while they're waiting for asylum in exchange for reception but we all remember what happened in 2011 when Berlusconi finally went down after 20 years we thought that we were going to be able to cast our vote but the Goldman Sachs and Presidente Napolitano decided that because we were attacked by Goldman Sachs then we needed as a new prime minister Mario Monti a Goldman Sachs man. So we all know why we find ourselves in the current situation but tonight we will try to focus on how to get out of this situation GM 25 Lorenzo Marzilli Agnani Svarufakis Buonasera a tutti quanti Good evening everyone Ten years ago, exactly ten years ago I started trying to do my part to change a Europe which we don't like at the time it was the 50th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome I used to live in the most multicultural neighbourhood of London in a city, a town that represented that type of society of possible society that nationalists would like to destroy and I lived in a neighbourhood that symbolically in a place that symbolically represented this multicultural dimension it was an abandoned factory who used to belong to a British guy who ended up in jail who had put that abandoned factory into the hands of an Italian entrepreneur who had then given it to a Brazilian guy who built an illegal gym inside this factory and then this guy sub-rented a part of that abandoned factory to myself and Nicola Milanese and that day we were looking at the images of the celebrations for the 50th anniversary of the Rome Treaty and by looking at those images on television we decided to begin the adventure of European alternatives since then we witnessed many crisis these have been ten years of constant systemic crisis debt crisis, financial crisis, economic crisis, refugees crisis crisis in Ukraine and so far and so forth and times really seem to be accelerating constantly but the most important crisis is perhaps the political crisis they kept telling us that there is no alternative to the current system and now that this system is proving to be totally inadequate what options do we have we can only pick between two alternatives that are equally wrong on the one hand you have the establishment who is insisting with a business as usual that is leading Europe straight into this integration and on the other hand bitter fruits produced by this establishment a xenophobic, right wing nationalist wave and there is a symbiotic relationship between these two options as we always say with Yanis because the establishment creates the policies that allow for the nationalistic rebellion to happen but it is symbiotic also in terms of the sense of fear that these two options convey on the one hand fear for the failure of the policies and on the other hand the fear for the migrants promoted by xenophobic nationalist and that is why we decided to entitle tonight's event the time of courage because we believe these are days when we need to be brave to have courage we believe that in order to build a different scenario for our continent we need different policies but they are not extraordinary policies they are policies that make sense are those policies against the system well if the system is one where six people sit on 50% of the global wealth and this is not just a figure Marchione, the CEO of Fiat made in one day the amount of money that one of his blue collar workers makes in 20 years so if this is the system if the system is that of tax havens if the system is one where the only result of the crisis is to try and exploit those who are better worse off than us and are trying to flee war well then if this is the system our policies yes are against the system but our policies are policies that make sense that they are simple and possible what can we do in order for these policies to become a reality well first thing we can do is to look at the policies that have created the currency European disintegration people always talk of the Europe of austerity the Europe of technocrats but if we try to understand what's behind this austerity this technocrats what we find behind the scenes of all these is those very same elites that are trying to profit out of the crisis those very same elites that tried impose national policies that in the case of Greece would destroy the attempt to find a different way out for Greece and for the entire Europe they did nothing in Italy that was absolutely the same so behind policies what you have is political power not something abstract and if we look at history what did our grandparents have to do in order to build a different world well in order to build a different world you needed a workers movement a feminist movement an anticlonial movement and we wish now to build the movement that can take Europe out of this present we are not there yet today proves that we are still not ready that we are still not up to the task because today in Rome we should have had hundreds of thousands of people taking the streets to express all that third space that we wish to build from Portugal to Poland so within one year time we hope that we can get to a point where we can offer a different kind of image to our European fellow citizens and how we can do all this will be at the centre of tonight's event because if by quoting Gramsci we are living in the days of the inter-realm then our role should be that of bringing about a novelty of building a system that we can be proud of in the years to come and in order to do this we need courage, ambition and vision Giannis Buonasera Roma Good evening Europe All roads led to Rome today except for the Pope who went to Milano The great and the good descendent upon this splendid city to celebrate the European Union's 60th anniversary By the way, there is another anniversary today Today is Greece's national day Coragia Pollella Millions of Europeans have been glued or not exactly glued have been watching on and off their television screens watching our leaders celebrate and they would be justified to ask a question what exactly are they celebrating they use a great achievement but the European Union is at an advanced stage of disintegration and the European idea is in retreat everywhere and the very same people who in this city today are celebrating it from the position of the deep establishment are responsible for the disintegration of the European Union We are here to demonstrate we did today and primarily to get down to work to answer important questions about how to restore Europe to do what Norm Tromsky said to turn Europe into once more a progressive force in the world By the way, we at DiEM25 we load, we hate borders and we've proven this because Norm Tromsky who is an American and lives in Boston is a member of the coordinating collective of DiEM25 Europe is an idea it knows no borders and we do not respect borders in this continent So we've come here effectively to fulfill a promise that we first issued in Berlin on the 9th of February 2016 when we set up DiEM25 one of our great colleagues who is not here tonight but he's a member of the coordinating collective of DiEM25 Brian Eno, the musician in his speech in Berlin said folks, we don't know exactly what it is that we're doing start cooking a recipe will follow Well, the recipe is here and it's the European New Deal which we're launching today here in Rome It is our answer to the question that the European establishment has not bothered to answer What should we do to stabilize Europe to stem the progress of the nationalist international which is feeding on the instability and the constant deflationary and recessionary forces in this continent and bring hope back This is the question that we are answering by means of the European New Deal The European New Deal is not about the European Union it is not about the Eurozone it is about Europe We squeezed our minds for a year now to come up with answers that concern not just countries like Italy, Spain, France Germany, Greece, the Eurozone countries not only countries that are in the EU but also countries that are on the way out of the EU, call me Britain as well as countries that never entered the EU at the very same time the European New Deal expands in two dimensions one is the temporal dimension we have proposals that can be applied tomorrow morning well maybe not during the weekend but on Monday morning on Monday morning on Monday first thing between 9 e 11 in the morning and these would be policies that utilize existing institutions in Europe the ones we have we may not like them we may be very critical of them but there are ways of redeploying them technical ways of redeploying them in order to stem the tide of misanthropy to stabilize Europe because stabilization of Europe is an essential prerequisite for beginning to build recovery on top of it and then we have a second batch of policy proposals of what should happen in the middle term in the medium term in two years time, in three years time and we finish off with institutional changes that should come in the long term and in particular of course the replacement of all EU treaties by a democratic constitution that will result from a constitutional assembly process in which every European should be part of I am not going to give you a technical technocratic explanation of the various policies that we are proposing it is a technically difficult document but at the same time it's not inaccessible let me just say a few words we are proposing policies that would effectively tame finance and create a public digital payment system that would augment the degrees of freedom of the Italian government, of the French government of the British government even not just for the eurozone and which at the very same time would operate as a mechanism for minimizing the shock waves from a potential disintegration of the euro we are proposing that which needs to be done to save the euro but that mechanism is also a mechanism for absorbing shocks that may happen may hit us, hit our societies our people everywhere because of the establishment's denial that may very well lead to a disintegration of the eurozone we have policies for funding the innovators and those especially young people who innovate on green transition green energy and green technologies it's all about linking the mechanisms the mechanics of central banks not just the ECB, the European Central Bank but also the Bank of England, the Bank of Denmark with public investment banks we have policies for providing the basic goods that Europeans need in every community from Latvia all the way to Lisbon and from Ireland all the way to Cyprus in order to ensure that maintainers those people who maintain their communities the nurses, the teachers, the sewer workers the people who change the telephone lines who do things that are of an older technology but which are essential for preserving our societies and our communities the maintainers are funded while the innovators are also funded we are proposing policies about how to share in the prosperity that the robots can produce we do not want to set a universal basic income against the existing social welfare state so we are proposing very innovative institutions, institutional interventions that will allow us to create a set of circumstances so that we can all share in the returns to capital and finally we have a comprehensive proposal for resolving the toxic and particularly debilitating euro crisis something that we have not done as Europeans since 2008, 2010 now this is what we need to do how on earth do we do it great ideas are necessary but they are not sufficient to give them strength we need to be able to acquire a degree of power we need for the European New Deal to acquire a capacity to set aside to push away the denial and the constant resistance of a deep establishment caught up in a spiral a negative spiral of authoritarianism anti-democratic behavior and austerity we shall say a few more things about how this will happen but already in a press conference yesterday we made an open call to all political parties around Europe to all civil society organizations to transnational networks to join us in giving legs to this European New Deal to develop it with us it needs more development every good idea needs to be an evolutionary one in order to be able to take this European New Deal to a ballot box to an electoral center near you near every neighborhood in the European Union and outside the European Union by 2019 allow me to finish off by asking a question that everybody has I'm sure everyone has in this room at the back of your mind is this not utopian allow me to redefine it as realistic utopia it is the only alternative we have to a dystopia which is dragging our continent towards the post-modern 1930s unless we take the spirit of solidarity of tolerance, of liberty of combining technological innovation with social justice and we package it in a set of policies that has a capacity to influence the electoral and political process everywhere in Europe we are not going to be able to answer the nationalist international which is the natural repercussion of a deep establishment that has no idea of what it is doing allow me to finish off by saying that in Britain those who voted for Brexit were not racists there were some racists do you know where they were mostly people who said enough enough of this establishment we used to go we went around Britain and campaigned against Brexit and we said to them in this EU, against this EU stay with us to fight against the EU but you know what they thought all of us you cannot win government if we vote to stay in the EU it's a vote for the establishment and we are so angry we want to claim our countries back you know what, the answer to this from progressives in Europe is not your racist you want your country back it's not to be condescending to them it is not to look down upon them it is to say to them you're right you deserve your country back to gain your country back to get your city back to get your region back we need collectively to sort out some problems that are common to us which you cannot solve at the level of your region your city and your country just like climate change we cannot sort out climate change in our own country same applies to public debt banking crisis low investment and poverty Italy cannot solve these problems on its own Britain cannot solve these problems on its own Greece cannot do it Germany cannot do it this is why we need to Europeanize the solutions to these so that each nation every municipality can get its own country, region and city back so, allow me to finish off the way I finished off in Berlin on the 9th of February 2016 it is time to shake Europe compassionately gently but very firmly thank you we're going to democratically change Europe we're gonna talk with our guests tonight but you will be able to interact with what is happening here on stage with DM Voice and there will be two Cristina and Dan and they are going to explain what is DM Voice to you fantastic being here and thank you for being here everyone I'm here to basically invite you to participate in this event from now onward and I'm very very excited to launch here tonight DM Voice DM Voice is an ongoing art platform running simultaneously with DM25 it is an initiative which focuses on the political dynamics of contemporary art our intention and vision is that art plays an integral role in determining not only the means but also the ends not only the medium for conveying the policy but also for shaping the policy itself we want to create events which will appeal to Europeans who want to engage with politics using alternative formats and contexts the project builds on the idea that people's voices are the active material of DM25 and that each person's actions, thoughts, ideas, voice however small, shallow, loud or deep can have an impact on how we operate corporatively and in extent as citizens of Europe we want to generate a voice which engages in a conversation with the political this horizontal approach and exchange that we are aiming for is reflected in our logo ah, yeah, it's behind me it's a voice wave consisting of smaller parts which form connections a highly dynamic and context-sensitive system which comes together to become the word voice our aim is to actively contribute to the policy making of DM25 and to be heard as a voice we are generating the voice of DM like a collective consciousness a patchwork of actions, thoughts, ideas created during the events in relation to DM6 pillars the European New Deal which was just presented here tonight transparency, refugees and migration labour, green investment a European constitution furthermore, we aim to initiate a critical dialogue with people who attend these events you for this we are collaborating with artists and creative researchers to devise systems drawing from artistic practices critical practices and research in art but also science in order to orchestrate and this immaterial exchange between DM25 the people who participate and the corresponding artists in this way, we aim that DM voice will contribute to embedding the DM25 events in the debate and dialogue which informs DM25's policies our aim is to cultivate these aesthetics of valuing people's attendance leaving some space for reflection and discussion during these events now Christina Pena with whom we have closely collaborated in the past months on this project and who is largely responsible for putting this idea together will explain to you how you can actively help us here tonight, thank you thank you all for being here tonight my name is Christina Pena and I am a performance practitioner designer and researcher so my work is based around participatory performance the processes of working with multimedia with audiences and with materials I have been working as a creative consort with Danai and the DM team to set up DM voice as Danai just said and we hope that you will all contribute to this tonight Very often in conferences there is not enough time for questions in the end the question period cannot extend for more than a few minutes and some of the participants leave without being able to express potentially valuable contributions and responses to the events which can generate conversation because in most cases it's not only the questions your questions that are being answered by the speakers but also the potential conversation that your questions can generate between you in finding answers for our questions what we aim to do tonight with DM voice is to form a feedback loop between the foyer space your space and the stage and this is how the spatial contraption is going to work so throughout the evening you can post your questions thoughts or responses on Twitter WhatsApp, email or SMS and we have them all projected there for all the speakers after the speakers or throughout the event or for the speakers that have already talked we will be creating an analog social media platform in the foyer by actually printing your input and displaying it out there so you will be able to see the process also of what is happening in the foyer in almost real time because Danai is going to be going around and taking photos of what's happening in the foyer and we're going to be projecting them there because transparency of the process is indeed key to what DM25 is aiming to achieve now upon exiting you will see your displayed questions so when the event is finished you will go out and the foyer is going to be filled with your questions your thoughts and ideas and you are welcome to pick them up and discuss them between you take them home and continue the conversation via email the format is a very simple one like DM25's suggestion of a simple yet radical idea to democratize Europe we have a simple yet radical idea to get you talking to each other in relation to the European New Deal we gradually aim to get these responses online and we could maybe call this a conversation if it is successful your voice will help us in knowing which questions we should be asking at this point so let us know what do you think and which are the questions that we should be asking at this point thank you very much è possibile arrivare entro il 2019? quando abbiamo, per il 2019, lavorare su una coordinazione di forze progressive sulla base di la Europa New Deal per combattere le polizie direlle le polizie direlle della parte xenofobica la prima partita di Presidente Trump un incremento di 10% la partita di defensa la protezione di l'environmento di minus 31% l'educazione di un incremento di 14% la città di città di città di città e mi dico, perché alcuni pensano che Trump è in attenzione è possibile avere una Europa che è in attenzione a questo sistema? questa è una questione con uno dei founder di Podemos potete vincere qui? e a Pascal Duran e mi dico la stessa questione di Pascal Duran che è un MEP di Green's che ha supportato la campagna di Benoît Amon mi piaceremo invitarci a Yanis Varoufakis ti impedi, mi sa che manca una settimana e anche quando portano due seghi invece di una perché c'è già l'ascissione perché immaginano che l'ascissione sarebbe già passata Juan Carlos si usa che il problema con il socialismo è che abbiamo troppo di spazio spazio, ma si usa queste attenuzioni per creare Podemos creare... mettere insieme diverse esperienze inclusivamente l'unico della Colà l'esperienza del Pa e l'istorico come hai mangiato a fare questo? Buongiorno mi piace dire che oggi ci sono some leader di Europa mi piaceremo di salubrare al Tiero Spinelli di Totas Freedom credo che siamo a un tempo che è un po' historico in spain e in europea c'è una cosa magica che è successiva abbiamo avuto la crisi del 1929 che è una crisi che è una unità tra i classi medici e i classi di lavorare e poi la seconda Repubblica che è stata che è stato importante e è stato importante come un ragazzo che è stato un paio che non è stato il secondo il importante è il paio di la morte di Franco a questo punto i classi medici e i classi di lavorare sono avuti perché hanno avuto un purpose per defeatere la data di Franco il terzo paio era 2011 il movement di Ignato di solito e l'ultimo e siamo tutti uniti i classi medici e i classi di lavorare e i classi di lavorare con alcune affiliazioni specifici perché abbiamo avuto un animale comune che era neoliberalismo e io credo che il senso che possiamo imparare è che nel sistema capitalista abbiamo sempre avuto una crisi economica i settori più strongesti sempre hanno sempre provato a fare più profondo per il determinato di la maggiorità quindi hanno provato a dividere a fragmentare la unità e l'ultimo che abbiamo di ritengere la nostra democrazia è di essere uniti e qual'è l'inizio che possiamo imparare abbiamo bisogno di essere uniti settando aside cosa può dividere in latino america c'era una possibilità di cambiare il governo e c'erano 72 milioni che avevano un stato di poverità e questo era possibile perché del lavoro del forum che era un incontro di molte persone che avevano iniziato a portare alcune idee che avevano una possibilità di un progetto alternativo e era il successo più importante della moda Libra era per cercare di convincere che non c'era un alternativo era un granny di inizio c'era un alternativo che si può fare differenti questa online è importante a è iniziare a sviluppare un messaggio indicando molto chiaramente che c'è un alternativo e, ovviamente, il nostro strato non sarà facile. Un po' di settembre avevano le elezioni che avevano preso in Ecuador e, ovviamente, la persona che aveva l'electione continuava la policy di Correa, ma era possibile, ovviamente, per chi non era in posizione, per rispondere un po' di questioni di cittadini in Ecuador, di quanto ha la misura di ritengere, di se riuscire a controllare le policies economiche, e, per esempio, finire con l'ultimo esempio di un po' di strato di Caracas con un maio d'ultimo, e era andato a chiedere a cittadini di votare per lui, e c'era una persona che ha detto, perché sei andata a votare per me? E lui ha detto, no, non mi sono andata a votare per te, perché sono contro il socialismo, e se voto per te, il socialismo mi imparerà di quello che ho. E l'answero del maio è, ma non hai niente potere, connessione a potere e elettricità, quindi non sei andata a essere imparato di tutto. E l'answer che la persona ha detto era, qual è la possibilità di venire dopo? Mi concluderà da dire che stiamo combattendo con i voti, quindi è importante che stiamo identificando gli animali della democrazia. Podemos ha 5 milioni di voti, 71 membri del Parlamento, perché eravamo capiti di identificare e di soloare i nostri animali. Siamo capiti di教are a persone che eravamo come scegliere di non riuscire ad un'alternativa. Siamo capiti di dire che è diffuso in Europa. Il mio canto ha sempre stato un canto molto optimistico per Europa, ma è molto ignorante per Europa. Allora, l'Europa ha sentito un memorandum per cambiare la costituzione del mio Paese per assurgnere che ci gioceremo la priorità del paese del paese con il rispetto alla dimensione sociale. Quindi, credo che ci sia qualcosa che è la base di questo incontro, che è stato convinto l'Unione Europea, l'Unione Europea, è l'Unione Europea dell'Altero Spinelli che è andato a essere, perché è stato riusciti a difendere il fascismo, è l'Unione Europea che ha avuto una risposta che era la Unione Sovieta. L'unione europea è la risposta che abbiamo piaciuto oggi, e l'Unione Europea deve essere qualcosa di altro e non deve essere la verità del paese, ma deve essere riuscita a scrivere la verità. Non deve essere difendere perché quando sentiamo che non ci sono alternativi e quando sentiamo che è possibile avere un'unione europea e alternativa europea. È bello sentire parlare. È bello sentire parlare. È bello sentire parlare. È bello sentire parlare. L'Unione luce è riuscita così molto, perché in Italia l'ha lasciata per abbastanza di tempo non ha parlato di luce di strugge. E poi, perché erano affreddati di non votare per loro se avevano parlato di strugge e in realtà non avevano stoppato di votare per loro perché erano usando il mondo, il mondo di strugge. Ma in Francia, anche, il termine strugge è stato usato di nuovo e nel corso dell'Electrocompagnia, i youth hanno stato giocando una parte importante, che è normale nell'Electrocompagnia, ma sembra che Fionna accorre un problema, perché ha creato molte domande, ha scoperto la sua figlia, due figli, per più di un milione di euro, non credo che sia il presidente di un ragazzo che creata molte domande. Buongiorno. We're going to switch from Spanish to French, so we'll have the European diversity, which is clearly shown tonight. Let me say why we have come here. We as environmentalists do not use too many words, but I'd like to briefly talk about the French experience, which is worthy of being looked at. So I'm going to speak on behalf of the European Greens, and I will also sort of, on behalf of the French campaign to support Benoit Amont. We're trying to respond to a different situation in France. I've come here not just because to sort of stress your personality. I've come here because I felt that you were very courageous because at some point you decided it would not, you would stand up and reject the Europe, which was in a pursuing a policy of austerity, increasing the pain of people that were deprived of the right to dignity and to a job. So it's unacceptable. And I have come here to say the same things, but I'd like to sort of put it in a different perspective. I feel very moved when I talk to you here in Rome in Italy. Why do I feel very special? Because this is the date where we are celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Rome Treaty. In a few years we will sort of recall the March on Rome, in a time when the fascist sort of gave sort of fire to the home of my great-grandparent and they were forced to take refuge in Nice where many other who fought against the fascism took shelter and they continued the struggle for peace and democracy. I want to pay tribute to all those Spaniards, Italians and from other countries who fought for Europe of solidarity, a brotherhood against fascists, all those who are going to sort of destroy us. So you gave us back our dignity, Yanis. And I will never forget this. I will never forget my grandfather when he came to France. He came with his children. My mother was Italian. The French fascists denied them French nationality but they fought for France and they were given a medal for their struggle and they pursued their struggle against the fascism, against the bankers. There is no border in Europe. There is only one legitimacy of those that stand up for human dignity, for solidarity against those who wish to destroy it. That's my message to you tonight. Sorry for being so moved about it but we should never forget the history, our history. I will never forget the history of the left. And I know that today the Greens are part and parcel of this struggle. But why? Because you are right. We need concrete answers. We must come up with immediate answers to our present situation where people are suffering too much so we can't take a medium or long term perspective. There is a time when one must try and implement a program and your program Yanis. We should all be united in Europe. We must be working together. We must identify our common positions. Today we are in a dramatic situation where in a very difficult situation in Europe we have over 27 people, a million people unemployed there, people that have no access to the fundamental rights in the richest countries in the world. I don't want to go into details about our situation but let me simply recall here that Moroso used to say it's a night that you should believe in light. It is a night of this Europe which is destroying our solidarity that we have to believe in the light of what will become tomorrow, a Europe of solidarity. And I'm saying this, thinking about Altiero Spinelli with him in mind and thinking about the people that during the war in France when they were being arrested, deported and tortured had the strength to think about the future. And they said, well, one day we'll put an end to this word. We'll regain power. We will restore the solidarity of tomorrow and they worked for social solidarity and security in the Italian Republic. So we should never be divided. We have different backgrounds but we have a common purpose. We should all go for it, unite and sort of restore the dignity of the humankind. Giannis, on this stage we managed to unite French, Greeks, Spanish, Italians and even British because we were waiting, we've been waiting for a guest tonight. I lived for three years in Texas. Do you know how close we all look as Europeans when you are in Texas? We are as if we belong to the same French or Italian village whether we are Norwegian, Dutch, German, British or Greek. So I think the whole of Europe should go to Texas for a year. Then we will be very united. No problems after that. Now allow me to speak not as me. We have a wonderful person who has blessed Diem with his counsel, with his advice, with his presence. He is a member of Diem. His name is Ken Loach, the British director. Ken was meant to be here today but he got very, very sick and as he says in the note that he asked me to read to you on his behalf, Dear friends, I'm sorry not to be with you this weekend. It is the English weather again. It struck again. When I spoke to him, his voice could not be heard so I can assure you he really wanted to be here tonight. So let me convey his message nevertheless. This meeting could not be more urgent. We are all aware that the far right is on the march again. People feel unheard and left behind, ignored and alienated from politics and they have good reason to feel that way. The right is using this to spread division and fake nationalism. The greater danger comes when big business sees this as the best way to defend its interests. There are signs that this could be starting to happen already. We have to suggest another way. It is clear that the center cannot hold whether nominally center left or center right. Those parties have promoted a harsh and un unrestrained version of capitalism where the profits of big operations go before all else. The European Union has been at the forefront of this project. I agree with them that this was an inevitable development for capitalism and there is no going back to the days when social democrats could appear progressive. We need a new plan for Europe. Here, here. One that puts the interest of the people first. Jobs for all that pay wages to support the family in sustainable industries where the new technology is used to benefit us, not to exploit us. Homes, public services, care for the sick and the old, it is a very easy list to write. We also need a Europe that is not a self serving trading block but one where we look out to people across the world. We do not want to exploit cheap labor and resources in Asia, Africa or South America. A global economy for us must equal global justice. It is after all one planet that we have to live on and sustain. Harsh competition between big corporations is killing this planet. The stakes could not be higher. We do have allies. The labor movement once depicted as an old car horse still has its problems of leadership but many want to fight back. Whatever its flaws, it is our essential strength. We are seeing positive signs across Europe and Britain, Jeremy Corbyn and another dear member, John McDonald, should be supported. Not just by words but with positive organizing help. The left is alive. I very much regret not being here to take part in this important meeting. With warmest good wishes and solidarity with the aims of DiEM25. Ken Loach. So the left is alive in Italy too. The problem is that you have six to seven left that are alive in Italy. So perhaps what we need is to have at least one that remains alive and then we will have time for the new splinters. So the effort of DiEM25 perhaps could help Italy also a little bit. We will now leave the floor to the first members of DiEM25 and its volunteers. So I will now ask Sretko Horvath to please come to the stage. Daddy DiEM. From the very first moment. So I have a mic. Ok, sorry. So first of all I'm really glad to see that we have Spanish and French translation. Unfortunately we still don't have Croatian translation here so I will speak in my very bad Balkan English. But there are many people here from Slovenia, Serbia and Croatia as well and I'm really glad about this. What all people know is that 60 years ago here in Rome the Treaty of Rome was signed. What people usually don't know is that this treaty contained several blank white pages and still it was signed by the leaders of Europe. Today they gather in Europe to fill these white pages with the so called Junker Plan which will contain multiple speed Europe variable geometries and so on and they are actually celebrating the death of Europe today. Via DiEM here are here to fill these blank pages with an unfinished project of Europe. This is the reason why one year ago we found the DiEM at the Volksbühne in Berlin. Why one year ago we were here in Rome. So people might ask us so what have you done in one year. In one year DiEM only in one year we have members in every member state of the European Union today. We have members in states which are not part of the European Union anymore like the UK. We have members in the states which will maybe never become part of the European Union like Serbia or Turkey and today what happened today at the march is I think the best embodiment of what DiEM stands for. Are Serbian comrades from Serbia because the Croatians couldn't come to Rome were carrying a Croatian DiEM flag and for me as someone for me as someone who comes from Croatia who was born in Yugoslavia who lived during the days of war this is what Europe should be about. So what we have today is not only members in every European state member states, non member states. DiEM launched three big campaigns we launched one of the campaigns here in Rome which is the campaign about transparency. We launched a campaign which is still taking place about refugees and a campaign which is going against the European Central Bank and trying to release the so called big files. We had many events from Amsterdam to Hamburg, to Zagreb, Belgrade not yet but we will come to Belgrade as well and many other parts of Europe. And let me say something and finish with this to come back what Comrade Monadero said. What DiEM is trying to do is to learn from all experiences from all the struggles as our French comrades said and try to applicate it to Europe today. So if we go back to the last decade we had at least three historical sequences. One historical sequence was represented by the World Social Forum which started in Porto Allegra with the great idea that all the progressives from the world, from Via Campanzina to the Zapatistas, from the trade unions to the progressive Catholics will gather once a year from Porto Allegra to Tunisia to Dakar. After this historical sequence we had this historical sequence of 2011 from Puerto del Sor to Sintagma Square from Bosnian planums to Serbia with the idea that we can achieve this kind of progressive idea only by direct democracy, horizontality. After this historical sequence where Podemos belongs which is not part of history but the poetry of the future we had the historical sequence of verticality the political parties what DiEM is trying to do is trying to connect all these levels of struggle which means the format of the World Social Forum which we miss today in Europe then the horizontality and the verticality and we are trying to do it from the local level which is the reason why we have people here from Naples which represent what we in DiEM call the network of rebel cities but Salona, Naples but hopefully also very soon Zagreb or Belgrade this is the reason why we have Belgrade here we are trying to do it on the national level which is the reason why we have the representatives of the greens and Benoit Amon here and Podemos and other Italian political parties and what DiEM is trying to do is to combine all this together on the trans national level because we can defeat on the one hand the national is international and on the other hand the austerity international only by a new radical progressive movement thanks a lot What is DiEM in Belgrade? We will ask one of the activists of DiEM who with other comrades was a protagonist of the campaign against the privatization of the Belgrade waterfront that they wanted to sell it to a corporation from the Emirates so they created a movement starting with such a struggle they created a movement which took inspiration from Podemos Senya, tell us about your experience My name is Ksenia Rodovarich I come from a country you probably know about It's called Serbia and from a city you probably heard of it's called Belgrade but I'm sure that the reason I'm here tonight you are all too familiar with the initiative done at Belgrade Round which I represent here confronted the problem well known to people living across Europe and across the world As many other citizens we have lost our city We have no influence on how it will develop on what it will become on where it will live The power of the economic and political elite is spiraling out of control Their interest has become the only measure for the city absorbing every available resource turning it into a commodity devastating public spaces and the environment and affecting not only us but also the future generations but we in Belgrade said no more we are determined to stop these processes and we are determined to take back our city and in the last couple of years the citizens of Belgrade showed great solidarity and we see this new sense of unity and readiness for action as the shapes of things to come when we started making the waves we also soon realized that we are in fact part of the huge tide of hope the tide of hope we see in the M25 in Barcelona and Comune in Zagreb and Nash and all the other movements that inspire us now we are sure that our problem recognizes no borders as we are sure that our strength lies in solidarity and our message is that we cannot give up and we will continue the struggle to reclaim our cities across our countries and across our Europe and we will win, thank you grazie Xenia grazie Xenia grazie Xenia please forgive our progressive government that bombed Belgrade as we wanted to export democracy we did not all agree to that and everyone realized that at some point you are deprived of democracy even Massimo Dalema is now recognizing that it was a mistake to bomb Belgrade well you can have second thoughts when you are a politician but if you have made a mistake which bombing a city maybe you shouldn't carry on with your political career very many years ago over ten years ago I was asked to moderate a discussion on attack to the labour rights where people chivati in Yadzomerino were being invited speakers as well there were all the representatives of the Italian left that usually sort of get together I do so crazy that should be discussing with these people and it was the future mayor of Naples the Magistris Luigi the Magistris Good evening just in five minutes I will try to tell you what we are doing in a city that from the deep south of Europe believes in the third way not the Europe of Juncker, Renzi, Merkel and Hollande meaning the Europe of the Concentration of Powers of elites, the fiscal compact and austerity not the Europe of the collateral damage of the walls in Calais of Salvini, Marine Le Pen and images coming from Hungary but the Europe that tried to let the voice of the people be heard and I did that in a city that when I came to power to the administration was full of debts no one wanted to have anything to do with Naples we were buried in waste in Camore, in the mafia there was a serious depression affecting our city and what did we do? We tried to work on the people to let the voice of those who were never heard be heard for once and so the people became the real protagonist of this experience so the real secret of the experience of Naples as a safe shelter and as a rebel city a rebel city because we kicked the mafia out of the municipality of Naples and that is not a little achievement the problem of Italy is the fact that corruption and the mafia are part of the political world and we also try to be a city that could be a shelter because we are not the citizens of Naples we are the inhabitants of Naples Naples has no borders and Naples is a city that practices solidarity because it considers that people are something precious and so we try to put people at the center and common goods at the center of our work you may know that in Italy in 2011 a referendum was held and people voted for water to be public and Naples is the only city in Italy that implemented the referendum on public water and again on common goods on the land, on the needs of the people on walking down in the streets and talking to people and putting yourselves into question and have the courage to do all this as Gianni Valofac said earlier I think we should really reverse what the main component of neoliberal policies was the strength of neoliberalism was the idea of money as the only way to develop your life development as the subjugation of nature progress as the destruction of common goods we must reverse all this the real progress is what the article 3 of the Italian constitution says the task of the Italian republic to remove the barriers that hinder the development of the human person the human person is number one solidarity and we will never win the fight against terrorism by locking ourselves into our homes in Naples if anyone tries to build walls and fences the municipality of Naples even though it has no money it's going to buy the tools to destroy that fence and we managed to achieve all this in Naples completely on our own I am not a member of any political party I am here today because I believe that in Europe we must build a huge movement of popular liberation by building communities, movements struggles from the no tab struggle to the struggles against for green resources and all of that but not just to say no but to say yes to a Europe of social justice yes to a Europe that puts collective property first, not private property first in our town there are so many young people who sees abandoned spaces and they regenerate them create an economy from below and then in other cities you have mayors who call the cops to evict the young people when they do so we do the opposite we believe that this is the real popular wealth popular richness now the Italian government made a decree on urban security saying that the mayors should become new cops basically I am doing the exact opposite I am trying to give power to those who want to regenerate abandoned areas to actually do so mayors will never be the actors of repression and Naples will be a rebel city also to the government decrease on security and immigration you cannot have migrants working for free that is a shame up with revolution and up with the truth grazie Luigi thank you Luigi I must say I am very proud because we do have young people that occupy vacant spaces and then use them very effectively but we have a mayor that asks them to leave such spaces and evicts them there is an artist there is a Member of Parliament of Barcelona in Comune Adacola wanted to be with us today but she can't because she is expecting a baby she is all we have with us Marcelo Expositor tonight Buenas noches Roma Buenas noches Good evening Rome Good evening Italy Good evening Europe I'd like to convey you the greetings of Barcelona a rebel city, a feminist city a city which is the shelter of southern Europe shelter city of southern Europe I'd like to thank you all for being here tonight I'd like to thank Jim for the honour to participate to the presentation of your programme for Europe I'd like to welcome Yanis and thank him for representing the dignity of southern Europe against the Troy camp representing all of us I'd like to greet the progressive forces of Europe I'd like to greet the Spanish brothers of Podemos and the mayor of Naples and the rebel cities of southern Europe Today we celebrate the 60th anniversary of the signature of the treatise of Rome Many days we have heard about the celebrations were taking place and how the European bureaucracies and European leaders celebrate the success of Europe The king of Spain told us that Europe is a history of success and a number of Spanish politicians repeat the same message but they are all very worried about the growth of populism the elites which somehow seem to be focusing on economic agreements better break the head express the challenge if you don't like your people then just leave the power from the people take the power away from the people but we want to recall here the Europe of Alexandro Grigoropoulos that was killed by the corrupted government of Caramales and Carlo Giuliani was killed by the corrupted government of Berlusconi Today we must celebrate the Europe of Messina and of Genoa and Lampedusa Europe with a massive protest against austerity in Greece in 2008 the protests in Spain in 2011 and the protests in Portugal in 2013 we also have criticised the master treaty but today we must ensure that we prevent the disintegration of the European Union Europe must fight against exploitation and must fight for democracy there is no future for our peoples outside and integrated Europe we cannot allow Europe to speed Europe Europe which is based on division between the wealthy states and the poor states of Europe today we are here not just to celebrate but we are here to demonstrate and saying that we must create transnational progressive political alliances which will enable Europe to overcome the crisis with more democracy it's a huge challenge it's almost impossible to take it but it's a question of life and death for the future of the European peoples our alliance has no future if we only consider the possibility of coalescence between political parties of course our parties may be necessary but the sort of alliance which is required to build this new Europe it's an alliance between social movements and parties and we have to create possibilities to give more power to the social majority that feels the pride of its own sovereignty that is afraid but has expressed its indignation well in Spain they were able to bring about change sovereignty must be given back to the peoples of Europe and especially to these people from the southern part of Europe and this is going to be one of the most difficult challenges that we have to face we have to give back to the people the right to decide for themselves and at the same time we have to build a common European space the new policy must consider clever ways of building up transnational alliances on monetary sovereignty there won't be any constituent progress in Europe unless we do not include if we do not include the political parties so the cities will be also a key in the momentum of this movement especially the rebel cities of the south and the empowerment of the ordinary people where the ways in which we were able to win in Spain the government of Barcelona, Madrid, of Cadiz, of Santiago and Ferrol the cities that I wish to greet and express are so to welcome from Rome Barcelona, Lesbos, Laspedusa and Paris in September 2015 published a letter signed we the cities of Europe this letter contain a paragraph which is worth mentioning here tonight we are responsible of the ideas that basically was built after the defeat of fascism to ensure a future of peace, prosperity of the future generations there were many forces involved in facing up the challenges they were able and I'd like to hug you all and say yes we can, yes we can do that On the 8th of March women in Italy in Europe and the world took to the streets to claim for their rights in Europe where women earn about 30% less than men but that's also thanks to neoliberal policies now this gap is reducing because governments are working hard to make sure that also men will earn less but we still have European countries where women need to take to the streets to defend the right to abortion that is what happened in Poland where thousands of women took to the streets amongst them were the activists of Razzam, Razzam is a new political force that was directly inspired by Podemos Anaknieszka who's also a member of DM will be telling us more about that Thank you, I'm very happy to be here tonight and there are three main reasons for which I will say what I'm going to say Firstly I came from Poland, secondly I'm a woman and feminist and thirdly I come from the left wing progressive democratic women oriented party called Razzam and since the last year in Poland was for me it was defined by the unprecedented surge on women's rights I feel obliged to share our experience of organizing, initiating and organizing the black protest the mass wave of women protest that occurred in our country but besides those my individual reasons there is one more important and political reasons for sharing that experience I believe that equal women rights and women equal participation in power and in politics needs to be not only included but put in the very heart, in the very center of political agenda of new pan-European movement like DM and it should be reflected in both program, policies and the organization of DM, whichever way it will be developed By including women agenda into political programs I do not mean to write one chapter on women issues I mean to take a stance with writing every chapter on any other issues in gender sensitive way to take into account the women agenda perspective for example when preparing policies on refugees to take into account the very specific, very particular situation of women refugees when writing about job insecurity to take into account the very particular, usually more severe consequences of job instability for women On the organization level building the left wing pan-European movement oriented women oriented like DM, we need to remember of making sure that women are engaged and represented in its institutional and organizational bodies We have some experiences in RASM that we can share regarding that issue I'm proud to say that we accomplished to build the organization that on every level in every governing body has equal gender representation and it's based on gender parity rule But during that process of building that organization we learned that we have to constantly work on that We have to constantly make sure that this equality is not only formal but is really authentically, practically performed To achieve the goal of making women's agenda on the very core of policy of left wing policy we need to also politicize the women rights movements we need to not only see women rights issues as political but we also need to convince the general public that women rights, women agenda, women liberties are political issues and how we can do that I don't know the complete answer but I know that we can learn of the experience of black protest that we can learn some lessons from that Firstly we should treat it, treat the women's rights movement as if it already was being politicized We need to put it in every political debate We need to put it in every program, in every chapter, in every paper and treat it as a real political issue Secondly we need to create as simple and as easy and as inclusive methods of reaching the general public as possible Despite the very subtle academic differences amongst the left wing organizations we need to be inclusive, we need to use very simple language and easy instruments like social media, hashtags We need to have courage not to be afraid of infantilization of our agenda To wrap it up, first we need to convince the broad audience to our cause and then we will be able to educate them, not the other way around I'm here with strong belief and strong hope that those issues will be addressed by DM because this is one of the issues that we need to address on the European level because if you want no country on its own will be able to accomplish that Thank you Paradosso is right, women from the eastern countries are very good, very smart Marta Fana spoke about the need to reduce working hours The Green New Deal talks about that we work more than a farmer in the 12th century So there is a need for some form of support, income support Some people are saying this in parliament Italian Left, Sinistra Italiana is saying it and we have our secretary Nicola Frattoriani with us Renzi said that you don't need income support but you need citizenship income a job which is work free of charge where you are not being paid Today they celebrated the 6th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome we did not participate in the celebration because we knew there was very little we had to rejoice about we knew that in that signature there wasn't any Europe that we are striving for, the common goods of solidarity that the signature of the treaties was the end of this Europe so we did not participate in this celebration but that is not enough it's not enough for us to feel sort of somehow encouraged we are not ready, we were too few we were not sufficiently determined so we were not power we had no power we need to have strength to change this Europe which is not the Europe we want to have to gain more power we have to consider a number of things the very first thing we need is to make sure that we do not sort of feel afraid, frightened well there could be many ways of frightening us people tell us well the phase with barbarism and nationalism and fascism you need a huge alliance an alliance based on responsibility so we have to bring together people from the left from the right responsible people to stop barbarism well the first thing we need to understand is that that is not what it should be done you can't stop barbarism by enacting the jobs act as we have done here in Italy which deprived workers of rights and not with the security measures of Orlando you do not fight poverty but you fight against the poor marginalized and instead of fighting drug addiction you fight against addicts you do not sort of fight barbarism like the mayor of Ventimiglia when people who help migrants are being fined by the municipalities so that's the first thing we need to understand then there is something else that we need there is another proposal that we should put forward and listen to tonight the proposal about the European New Deal and the many things that were shared by comrades here this is the first step for our project we have to try and sort of come up with a common discourse we have to say something which we have seen we have forgotten in this continent with fewer people that seem to work harder and harder too many people that have lost their job we have to sort of focus on redistribution of wealth, of income, redistribute work this is very modern radical approach which is based on common sense so we have to bring together our own ideas and at the end of the day we have to come up with a language a common language and a common policy the capacity to work together to reconstruct a new path which is a common path that is how I understand the proposal which was put forward tonight and I'd like to thank DM for this opportunity for this space which has been opened the convergence which was mentioned by our Spanish comrades that have worked on it and we should learn from them so that we could have a convergence here in Italy that would bring together the politicians the civil society, new institutions this is possible let's try and do it I don't know whether we'll be ready by 2019 but we must get started today or else we'll never be ready in Europe we advocate and wish to achieve we'll never get it and we'll be faced with Europe which will no longer exist it will be the victory of fascism and nationalism as our comrades will say si si puerde let's try and do it Adesso cambiamo un attimo il scenario e passiamo all'Italia Now that has changed scenario a little bit Italy is now at the forefront of the crisis because the reforms of Italian technocrats have been focusing in particular on the labour market saying we needed the labour market that was more flexible in the sense that they wanted to attack workers' rights When the Troika met they must have realised that the decline of Greece at the world level happened after Greece had decided to abolish slavery Greece initially exported democracy in the world and they abolished slavery and that was when their decline began so the Troika thought we need slavery back in place but this is not going to be so easy to implement so we need some advanced forms in order to re-propose it and Italy has been at the centre of this entire operation in Italy youth unemployment is twice as high than in other European countries and there are many saying in Italy that the only way out of this situation is by getting out of the European Union we believe instead that the only way out of this situation is by staying together and so I will now ask our Italian guests to come to the podium to come and join us here now of course please bring your chairs with you and we will now listen to Anna Falcone who was the leader of the no committee for the constitutional referendum in Italy and then the co-chair of the European Green Manica Frassoni the secretary of Refondazione Comunista Paolo Ferrero Elish Lane MEP of Possibile Gianmarco De Pieri Seve Collision Bologna and Eleonora Forenza Altra Europa con Cyprus So I guess that the choreography wanted you guys to be dancing some ballet moves or something like that I am trying to make the situation a little bit more spicy so all I can do is to please ask you guys to pass the mic on you have been listening to what has been said so far your parties or political forces are already supporting proposals that probably are the same ones as Diem and other ones that could expand Diem's proposal so my question for you is do you believe that there is a space for the convergence of progressive forces in Europe to reverse austerity? Gianmarco Well I think that today we did something important and that there is we are building politics for Europe here rather than in the Campedonia where the EU leaders met and I am saying this because this means that we have a huge responsibility the end of the in a moment in which the European project is coming close to its end the only possible answer for us is to take ownership of that project and Diem is in attempt to do this to accumulate the forces we need to accumulate the consensus we need and also to accumulate the strength we need because if we don't build up a strength that can reverse the power balance so that we can reverse the end of the European project I am afraid that we will end up just within storytelling operation What could the role of a civic coalition at the municipal level like mine could play? Well perhaps one of the things that created the crisis of the European project is the fact that the only way that the path to get to Europe that we chose so far was the national one we started from the national level to get to the European level perhaps we must start from a new level from that of cities for example Valencia, Madrid, Naples and we are trying to do this in Italy too the local project, the federation of local projects the networking between society and the political level the fact that we should all declare as a public tact that our cities want to be the shelter for migrants the fact that in our cities abandoned spaces can become spaces where we create common experiences rather than spaces that are only left there for financial speculation cities where we say that we want to reverse the fiscal compact from below so clearly cities can be a space of experimentation now in France, Germany and Italy I don't know about Spain but there is a common idiom in this country saying that the air you breathe in a city makes you free and I think that the air that you can breathe in certain European cities really can make us strong Elish Lenaro parlamentare di possibili I'd like to thank you all I'd like to thank DM for this invitation this most valuable contribution to the debate I'm lucky and like Pascal because we work in the European Parliament we feel European when we see that we share our struggle and the approach which was mentioned tonight is very convincing a concrete approach very effective but we place a great deal of emphasis in Italy on the idea that we should sort of join forces with society at large on a concrete project project which is shared that we can build together which tries to sort of create a major mobilization of everyone on this it's the only way to send a signal to the establishment that gathered today and also to defeat national egress so it's really no use to talk about sovereignty in a globalized word you have to give back sovereignty to the citizens that is what we need to do when we are faced with global European challenges that cannot be addressed in the national confines so he mentioned many challenges migration challenge seeks member countries out of 28 that address the request for asylum that come from all over the world and then you have the agreement which was signed with Turkey to limit the sending back of refugees but there are no way out for people that flee wars so that's the only thing on which 28 governments can come to an agreement is outsourcing our responsibility and our protection of our borders many mentioned Altiero Spinelli tonight but I'd like to quote also Ursula Hishman because our funding fathers and our funding mothers did not have this Europe in mind we have to sort of provide the missing pieces of the puzzle of Europe we have to work for the full democratization of Europe but before we do that we have to ensure that we are all engaged in a common struggle in my view the first struggle would be that about fiscal justice we did not sort of build Europe to see sort of fears fiscal competition between the various member countries which as a price of 1,000 billion per year so we could start joining forces on this front because this is very much related to the crucial issue that we have to address which is to fight against inequalities and how we should redistribute wealth which is being created by technologies let me conclude with just one last comment you have used an expression in formal words the nationalist international I was a few time ago with many other comrades belonging to different movements and I was kind of saying it's paradoxical that nationalists are moving as if they were a global front and they use the same language of hate we must do the same thing we should do it better we must show that we have common struggles we can pursue them all together to build what is missing in Europe and to come up with Europe we are a greater measure of dignity a greater opportunities for the future generation Paolo Ferreira, segretario di l'IFON Paolo Ferreira, segretario di l'IFON Buongiorno Buongiorno a tutti grazie per l'invitazione grazie per l'invitazione io credo che dobbiamo dare un'answer positiva per le due domande dobbiamo avere un nuovo... un nuovo partito europeo perché le politiche neoliberale sono destriando il modello sociale europeo e sono negativamente imparando le condizioni vivanti per milioni di europei come risponde a tutto questo hai la reazione nazionale e la reazione nazista e il successo il successo della reazione nazionale e della reazione nazionale è due politiche neoliberali Matteo Renzi, produzione Matteo Salvini questo è il dramma e questo è il perché bisogna di un secondo modo e il secondo modo che definirò in i seguimi termini bisogna ripetere con l'idea che non c'è niente perché l'idea dominante è che non c'è niente non c'è niente per la cura non c'è niente per l'educazione non c'è niente per il lavoro anche se non c'è niente l'idea che dice come vengono le emozioni per migliori i nostri persone dovrebbero andare prima dovremmo dire invece qualcosa di molto semplice non è vero che non c'è niente c'è niente perché il europeo fa quantità di visi per i bambini europei e per i bambini bambini è sempre c'è e i bambini di richia e quindi magari il problema è che c'è l'idea e qualcuno ha troppo di money bisogna redistribuire la città e usare per una nuova partita numero 1, numero 2 in order per essere forte per costruire una nuova partita dicendo e rispondendo che non c'è niente se continuiamo a diventare perché la divisione è quello di fare il nostro nemico forte quindi penso che è una cosa molto semplice io sono un comunista io sono qui con altri comrade amici che magari non chiamano loro comunisti che chiamano loro ambientali liberali, left wingers socialisti io non so a volte io sento che il popolo dice e io credo che c'è la stessa parte di me perché si parla in un linguaggio di neoliberalismo contro la filosofia racionale di profetto, penso che dovremmo provare e portare le altre tradizioni politiche e le altre culture sociali e esperienze politiche e costruire con nessun iroche un pubblico collettivo dalle persone contro neoliberalismo penso che è quello che dobbiamo fare in Italia e ai miei amici di Possibile e ai miei amici di Sinistra e Italiana allo che dico è che non abbiamo più tempo il tempo è pronto dobbiamo startare discussing tomorrow morning on how to come up with the program how to come up with the common politics non for those who are already party members but for the vast majority of people who want to change things and they are members of no organization of no political party and I think that's the same thing we need to do at the European level I am a member of the party of the European left we have the green there is Podemos we need to build a dialogue an exchange and build a coalition and anti militarist from below coalition in Italy so in Europe grazie Paolo thank you Paolo it might be a nice slogan for the Italian left better late than never so we can have t-shirts with better late than never Monica Frasone who is a co-chair person of the European greens well let's work together so thank you for your invitation and for this opportunity I am very happy to be here for two reasons first of all because today is the 25th of March but unlike your reaction I feel that the 25th of March is very important is important for me because I am involved in politics because I wanted to be engaging policy I met Altero Spinelli in 1984 and I joined the federalist movement of Florence and I saw this old man with a wide beard was a certain was a full of energy not only did he have charisma he had a tremendous amount of energy and I sort of wondered who the hell is he and I think the contribution given by Altero Spinelli not just as an Italian but as a European was to say well the fight is the struggle is very difficult I've been defeated on many occasions but I carry on and I will have other people join me to carry on this fight and I think that today we shouldn't just express our sort of conflict our opposition against the governments of the representatives of governments that are signing on Capitol Hill the European greens signed the establishment of their party at the capital in the whole of the Luba because we felt that it was a great sort of symbol but we have to sort of follow the direction which was mentioned by many of you and which I feel is very convincing but it's very difficult to do that in Italy when we are referring about possible horizontal and vertical convergence when we talk about sort of politicians that join with representatives of civil society we know that in Italy this is very difficult there's a lot of mistrust because I have my own association and you build a party even though we follow the same course if you like so I think that this sort of project which is very European and very significant that we are sharing should be considering also the problems that we will be up against in doing it I'd like to thank Yanis for the opportunity that he has given us we should all of us try to speak more about Europe in Italy this is not being done almost never do we do that because when people start talking about Europe in Italy they seem to be bored and people don't seem to follow if we manage to talk about Europe a different Europe the one that we want to build I think we might get a greater political support and consensus the Austrian and the Dutch example show quite clearly that when there is an alternative when the alternative is based on courage and it's supranational on some extent you get the support and people understand what you say I think whatever we'll be able to come up with be it convergence or something else it needs to be more European or else we won't be able to succeed so much so that one of the problems which I feel we have to consider is that part of the left seems to be somewhat inclined to go along with nationalist approach but we have to speak a very clear language and we must try and once again gain a consensus that we're not having right now in Italy I'd like to say something about the proposal Jan is talking about the European New Deal we talk about the Green New Deal and there is a lot that unites us but we do not have sufficient consensus to make people understand that when we talk about work we're talking about changing the energy system we talk about fighting against climate change fighting against the pollution and the very poor quality of life in many of our cities if we manage to do both to be more European minded and more focused on a policy proposal which is not a defensive one but it is also a very fascinating proposal that we might be convincing and win the European elections 2019 and 2018 why not Italy said no to neoliberal policies on the 4th of December and we're talking about fighting against the constitutional reforms because if I lose I'll go back I'll step down while we try to make life easier for him but then he decided that he didn't want to retire because at 42 because of the jobs he couldn't get a job but Anna Falconi will pursue her commitment to be there thank you for the invitation and thanks to Barofakis and to the DM movement for the efforts in trying to build the perspective of dialogue constructive perspective for the benefit of all European citizens in order to create that wider democratic horizon compared to what we see in our own countries I am here to represent an experience based on courage the time of courage in Italy began with the experience of the referendum committee because our committee was created by a group of citizens who had very few resources but we decided nevertheless to oppose the constitutional reform that was sold the idea that the problem of Italy was that its constitution was too old our response was that the constitution was not too old and that the problem was that that constitution was never implemented we were tirelessly to engage Italian citizens it was a very difficult battle because the reform the language of the reform was unreadable basically and in the course of time we realized that Italian people wanted to understand and what the reform was about not only did they want to understand it but they understood it so well that they voted no and they recognized one another around our constitution the Italian constitution is based not only on the rights of people, sovereignty, labour and participation are the direct result of article one of our constitution Italy is a democratic republic founded on labour where labour is the basis of social cohesion social participation is at the core of democracy and without participation and democracy you can have no sovereignty we are aware of the huge responsibility we have on our shoulders we have more than 700 committees that were created at the Italian level during the campaign and the committees decided to continue working even after the referendum we are not a political party we will not become a political force we have very diverse experiences and backgrounds but we have one common denominator and that is the fact that we have a model we have a democratic model which we believe was never implemented and the fundamental rights that are protected by our constitution participation sustainable development they must be we believe that those things cannot be achieved just at the national level we need a Europe we need a Europe for citizens let me just read out some words to you and here we have a text saying that the union fights social exclusion it promotes social justice equality between men and women it protects the rights of children it promotes social cohesion and solidarity between member states it respects the diversity its diversity and it protects its cultural heritage and again the union builds an internal market but it will work for a sustainable development based on a stability of prices on a social economy on a social market economy which aims whose aim is full employment and social progress and the protection of the environment this is article 3 of the treaty on the European Union how many of us have invoked article 3 while Greece was being destroyed how many of us called for the implementation of article 3 fundamental principles in which the union is based when all Mediterranean countries Italy, Spain were asking that those rules were ensurante in our constitution and when other countries were deprived of their best talents no one did this because we too very often use very fascinating slogans but we don't really read the treaties we don't look at the weapons that are already out there and that we could use at the level of European institutions in order for change to begin right now of course those are weak weapons and so we need a unitarian perspective that should be based on an exercise of sovereignty which could be the first act of constitutional sovereignty of the European city center we know that there was a constitutional process that failed because they spoke of a constitutional treaty but that was not a constitution the Charter of the Fundamental Rights of the European Union included certain new rights but particularly when it came to social rights they were basically not even mentioning those protections that instead exista in our national constitution in many of our national constitution we should start again by building a process of the people who can meet in order to create a constitution on the rights of European citizens because we need a new perspective for a new European renaissance so that European citizens can do what people did in Italy having a chance to cast their vote in order through a referendum to change things so let us put together and write that constitution that could be the democratic program of all and not just the platform of some political force Many of us how many of us have invoked article 3 when Greece was being attacked with austerity policies well it was in those very years that the Altre Europa with Cyprus came into being I'd like to thank the M for the invitation for the proposal that we just put forward here I'll start with the outcome of these celebrations of the 60th anniversary of the treaties of Rome basically they have clearly stated that there is a multi speed Europe they change speed but they go to the wrong direction so the our task is to see how can we change the course of this Europe and we should take the lowest level at the European when it comes to Europe so the denial of rights which occurs everyday at our borders in agreement such as the agreement between the European Union and Turkey and the billions which were given to the reactionary government or Erdogan to outsource the border protection the agreement which is about to be finalized with Libya where Italian government has very major responsibilities that the 5000 deaths in the Mediterranean should result into the integration of the European project and we should sort of take ownership of that project ourselves and what Yanis said at the beginning was wonderful our Europe is a Europe without borders well as I'm a feminist I feel it easier to think in terms of Europe without borders I'd like to mention the whole word is my motherland and I think this should be the manifest of GM as well I think that the strength of the global feminist movement the women movement has in Europe so well the external borders become internal borders decreed that security means freedom while we're seeing for ourselves the implications of security is freedom and we see that very clearly in the city of Rome where a center which was at the heart of the struggle for the referendum or water is at meeting has been evicted as well and this was a very point of reference for people working in the drama and performances and we've seen that our constitutional right to demonstrate freely has been denied 180 people were kept in an identification center by the law enforcement here in Rome so their right to demonstrate freely was denied so I think that the first freedom we should reclaim is that of freedom to protest and to I think we can pursue our project and the program which was proposed by Diem but that's not enough it's not enough to write wonderful programs and we as we sit around the table we have to reconstruct a European agenda of conflicts and movements the European peoples are developed in the freedom for liberation from the policies of austerity so we have to bring together different ways of being engaged in politics different policies self-government experiences which have been carried out by the trade unions a different dialogue between political parties and civil society that should be established so we have to rebuild the social block we have to restore the unity between what has been divided by neoliberalism and I think that this is the sort of unity that we must build it takes courage to learn from your own mistakes that's the unity that we have to restore that of a social block and European peoples that must be free from the austerity policies we shouldn't repeat the mistakes of the past the European socialists have proved the jobs act in Italy and they have proved that what you have in France they voted the Canadian European trade agreement at the European parliament they are working to convert the fiscal from intergovernmental agreement into community agreement so I think we should be courageous enough in order to avoid making the mistakes we have made in the past thank you Leonardo once again they told us that we need to wait some time before judging the effects of the jobs act on the young unemployed let us just wait for another 10 years and we'll see that the young unemployed will be not that young anymore we wish to thank all of you who were here today there were many organizations and associations that participated to tonight's event and then really we don't believe in the myth of the separation between the civil society and political parties given that for example political parties in Italy are full of people that come from the experience of civil society so we just wish to thank Transform Greenpeace Famigliarco Balino, French Green, Sampi the movement Non una di meno Social Center La Strada Me perso Catalugna da Sud and I hope that I didn't forget anyone else so I ask for the conclusions of tonight once again San Lorenzo Marzini that socialists meetings are too long let's prove him wrong so I'll be as brief as I can ladies and gentlemen we have a plan at least deemed us we call it the European New Deal it may be good but indifferent but at least it's a solid comprehensive plan I'm going to do a Merkel on you now Merkel, Angela you know her you were elected in January 2015 in one of the first meetings she gave us the MOU the memorandum of understanding of Greece the austerity proposals and the privatization and said ok take it and cross out the bits you don't like and replace them with things you want which is fine, we did it what happened afterwards is another story but we did it I'm going to do a Merkel on you I'm going to invite you to take the European New Deal and download it from our website and cross out the bits you don't like add the bits you want to add and let's meet again and continue to talk to one another between now and the 25th of May in Berlin in the Volksbühne where DM25 begun let's have a conversation based on policies based on what we must do and as long as we converge on what must be done I have no doubt that we will find a way of doing it together let's take stock in Berlin before that however I'm going to issue a warning we have a plan but as a famous American boxer one said they all have a plan until I punch them in the nose it is not good enough to have a plan it is not even good enough to be elected with a plan do you know what the only thing that can sustain a punch in the nose is it is that which we did not have in Greece in 2015 it is unity amongst ourselves let's have a plan let's unify to win government everywhere in Europe to implement it and then let's find a way of avoiding the darkness in our own souls that can render each one of us un'abilitazione per i movimenti dobbiamo fare di più di questo e io passerà adesso all'italiano il tempo è ora che siamo stati qua, abbiamo parlato ci siamo incontrati, abbiamo visto che condividiamo la maggior parte delle idee delle proposte che questa sera sono state presentate non possiamo però permetterci di continuare di incontrarci per scoprire che condividiamo gran parte delle proposte che presentiamo in serata, dopo serata abbiamo due appuntamenti cruciali il primo è quello del 2019 delle prossime lezioni politiche europee e dentro quella data dovrà darsi uno schieramento alternativo alle establishment e ai nazionalismi unito con coraggio e con determinazione di vincere e di cambiare questa Europa per davvero e questo significa che dobbiamo lavorare ora che dobbiamo arrivare al 2018 avendo questa proposta proposta pronta per essere lanciata nel 2018 ci saranno anche le lezioni in Italia e a me sarebbe molto piacere come cittadino italiano di avere uno schieramento italiano che io possa votare perché al momento non ce l'ho noi siamo a disposizione non per fare l'ennesimo l'ennesimo gruppo europeo italiano ma per dare una infrastruttura che si è in grado di unire di facilitare questo processo di confluenza a livello europeo e a livello italiano lo faremo nei prossimi mesi a Berlino il 25 maggio con tutta una serie di appuntamenti europei ci mettiamo a disposizione a farlo assieme in Italia attraverso tanti incontri come questo in giro per il paese per costruire assieme questo spazio italiano ed europeo in cui poter tornare a credere e anche da poter tornare a votare il tempo è ora e del tempo del coraggio quindi andiamo a lavorare la cosa più importante che ogni anno ho fatto la stessa cosa l'ultimo anno ho bisogno di chiamare qualcuno molto speciale all'estate che è il direttore politico di oggi ma anche il direttore ma anche il direttore politico di questa operazione e questo è Berardo Carboni grazie e se non sei troppo si sono inviti alla nuova rosa la celebrazione che sta succedendo nel centro sociale il centro che è a rischio di essere evitati quindi mi chiamo a tutti per andare there e supportare il coraggio