 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a talk of the town. Fuckin' the sisters, I'm hoakin' them down. Reachin' the smiles and the frowns again. Work us with a guy that I need no tool. I don't suck them up, I got so much pork. What's up y'all? It's your girl Breanna, Emani, and you are tuned in to another Talk of the Town interview. And today we got Brooklyn in the building, who I got with me. And your girl Chrissy Bansby outside. Yes. You finally at Talk of the Town. Yes, thank you for havin' me. Of course, thank you for comin' and don't say finally, cause technically this is a return. It is. It is. It is. But like I was telling you before, I love the elevation and the whole Talk of the Town movement. Like I'm so happy to be here. So yeah. Thank you, thank you. And same goes for you, cause you definitely grown since the last time that you was here. So for the people that don't know, tell us a little about Chrissy Bansby and starting off with like, where you from? So I'm from Brooklyn. The 90's to be exact. That's East Flatbush, not Brownsville cause you know y'all be claimin'. But yeah, I've been doin' this for a minute. I've been outside. I'm a lyricist. Okay, I don't just rap. I'm a lyricist. So we gon' get ready to it. What's the difference between like a lyricist and just like a general rapper? I feel like a rapper, like nowadays it got so many different definitions, but as far as a rapper, like you put words together, you know what I'm sayin'? You make it sound good, but a lyricist actually use words, have a play on words, metaphors, you know, different things like that. Okay. Yeah. So who would you say is an example of like a rapper? And what's an example of a lyricist? If you had to pick one. Why you gotta put me on a spot? You just bought it. I know, we gettin' this started. How have you already? A rapper, I would say, should we always talk about like, you could say anybody. Cardi B. Okay. I would say I love her to death. She's a great ass artist. She does, I think. Okay. I'd say she's a rapper and I would say Biggie is a lyricist. Okay. Would you consider Doja Cat to be a rapper? Yeah. She's lyrical. Okay. In her own little pop way, she's lyrical. I agree. I agree, because I feel like nobody really gives Doja the respect that she deserves for being a rapper, but I feel like there's no other way to put what she's doing. Like she be rappin' on the pop songs. Yeah, but she's really listen to what she's sayin'. Yes, she got bars. Yes, she definitely does. Okay. So that was a little segue, but so you're from Brooklyn. Now where are you from? Like what's your background? Because I be hearin' a little accent in some of your songs. Yes. Oh yeah, in the songs. Oh my god, yes. So my mom is Trinidadian and my father's Haitian. But I always rep the Trini side, because that's what I was raised around. Right, right. Okay, that's cool. So you got a lot of little mixtures goin' on in here. Okay, so what would you say is like your favorite thing about being from New York? Hmm, the dance, the music, the dance and the music, the loudness of the people, like the movement, the whole, I just love, it's crazy, I was talkin' about that earlier, like everybody movin' outta New York. When I move out, I definitely wanna make sure I keep a crib in New York. Like it's not the kind of thing. It's nothin' like New York, honestly. And I feel like sometimes, like as a New Yorker, you kinda get tired of like being here sometimes, but it's like you always know that you gonna wind up back here at some point. Come on, the chop cheese, the icy lady. It's no comparein', bro. Come on. It's no comparein'. All right, so you said if you move or when you move, so where would you move to? That's a good question. Right now, I wanna get a condom. Okay. In New York. Is it gonna hi-rise? Or does it? I wanna like, yeah, I could, you know, I wanna see, I'm mad like humble and modest, even though I could, you know, get cocky and shit if I want to, but I like to save money. I like to, you know what I'm sayin'? So as long as it's nice lookin' and comfortable and a big enough space, I'm Gucci with that. I don't need no... But that's for here in New York or just anywhere in general? Cause if you were to move somewhere... I gotta have the fancy and then I still gotta have the chill. So if you were to move somewhere outside of New York, where would you choose? All right. I'm scared of the San Andreas Fault in Cali. Okay. So I wouldn't go there. I like, I say probably like Connecticut or PA. Really? No, I was not expected for you to say that. Yeah, because like, all right, if we took it outside the country, I would say Barbados. I love Barbados. Okay. It's a really nice out there. See, I'm sorry, but I don't wanna be beautiful. Beautiful place. It doesn't make me bad. No, not at all. But I feel like, you know, every, you are true New Yorker, I'm about to die as you should be. But I feel like, you know, everybody's go-tos are like Atlanta, Miami. So like here in like a Connecticut or Pennsylvania. You know what it is? That is so different. I haven't been to Atlanta as an adult yet. The last time I've been to Atlanta, I was a kid. So everybody talks about Atlanta. They wanna move out. You gotta get out. Yeah, you gotta get out. But I'm going soon, so. Yes, you gotta get out there. I feel like, especially as an artist, there's so much that's not work enough to be done. You know, that's crazy. But I'm going. Okay. It's supposed to be the end of this month, actually. Okay, so we're gonna stay tuned. Because I'm interested to hear like, what you think after you actually experienced it. Yeah. So talk to us a little bit about like, how you came up in this industry, where you started, how you started getting into music. So I always loved writing, reading and writing. I was the best at essays and stuff like that. And I wrote poems. And one day I did this poem about, my pop seed didn't raise me. So I did this poem, my mom was there. And as I was spitting it, like every line, the crowd was like, whoa, like it was like ball for ball. And I shouted out my mom, like it was crazy. So I was like, I could rap. Like, you know? And then after that, I just was like, I started taking it serious. Going to my stepdad studio, that's where it all started. And then Nicki Minaj came out. Then I started going hard. And like I said, I'm from the 90s. I grew up with Bobby. And then once he got signed, I started taking it seriously. Okay, so would you say that you looked to like, artists like Nicki and Bobby for inspiration? Or would you just say that kind of like motivated you? It motivated me. I do look for Nicki for inspiration. Bobby too, of course, but like it's like, as far as female goals, definitely Nicki and Biggie. Like, I love Biggie. Like that's my number one thing. Okay, that's good, that's good. Okay, so you, you had said something, I think on Instagram, you made a post and you said that 2021 taught you a lot of lessons that like forever changed your mindset. That's what was in your caption. Oh, snap. Yeah, look at that. You said that. So I'm interested to know, like so far, we're like halfway through the year. What was it that changed and how has it been going for you so far? To be honest with you, I had like, you know, some snakes in the grass, you know what I'm saying? And I had to learn a hard lesson that you got to always look out for yourself and make sure that you're secure and don't, you know, let other people handle, you know what I'm saying? And just do your own thing, you know what I'm saying? I had to learn that. And I'm glad it taught me to, it basically prepared me for what the great things that's about to come now. Right. So I'm glad I went through it now. Right. So would you say that that was like in relation to your musical career or just like your personal life? Yeah, musical career, absolutely. Okay. I feel like, you know, I wouldn't say time wasted, but I definitely could have been doing a lot of other things, bigger things, you know. Yeah. So was that like a result of you like following what like the advice of somebody who didn't have your best interest or like? I'm gonna just say it. I had a manager that was stealing from me and I had to learn that the hard way. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry that that happened. Yeah, but thank God is when I was, I'm not making the millions and millions. Right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's good for you to learn that lesson now where you don't have as much to lose. Not that you don't have a lot to lose now, but like you said. Exactly. Better now for you to learn a lesson and have to go through it later on down the line. So how are you gonna like navigate that situation like moving forward when it comes to like who you have on your team, who you have as the management? Like how do you decide who's like a good fit for you? So from now on I control everything when it comes to my finances, everything on paper, you know, all the platforms like, you know, Tunecore or whatever the case is. And I just watch certain movements to pay attention to certain signs more now. Like, you know, you've grown, you, but you're still learning. Right, right. So I just pay attention to people's intentions. Okay, how they react to this and things like that. And you know, just stay on point. Okay. I'm more on point now with myself. Okay, and that's good. Would you say that you have gone through any like rebranding as a result of like losing your management or has it stayed pretty consistent? I wouldn't say rebranding, but I would say like definitely a new confidence, a new look, a new inspiration. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like that. Okay. So we're gonna get back into the music a little bit. So how would you describe your sound if you had to describe it to someone? I would say versatile, because I could give you the reggae, I could give you the hard rap, the sexy, you know what I'm saying? The only thing I haven't done, I would say is pop. But I do the storytelling, I do just bars and realness, authenticity basically. So aside from the realness and authenticity, when it comes down to like the reggae and like tapping into the different markets, do you do that because you enjoy doing it or is it like trying to just like keep up in different areas? No, I definitely enjoy doing it because like I said, I'm trying to daddy and so I love the culture of reggae, soca, all of that is fun, you know? And I wanna show the people that, hey, I could do this too. Right. You know, I don't have this just this one sound. Mm-hmm, cause you hopped on the crocodile teeth? Yo, that went crazy. Yes. And I said 105.1 in 1997, it was in rotation. I saw, I saw. Shout out to Druski DJ Will, my boy DJ Magic. I love them to death. Like, yo, what was that moment like? It was, let me tell you, because I've been on the radio years cause I have the A Boogie song. Right, Halo. That came out in 2019. So my boy Druski always showed love. He played that. However, my stuff has never been in rotation. As three songs, shout out to my boy, Stepa, cause the song with me and him, Big Stepa, that was in rotation also. So it was that and two other songs. So three songs was in rotation. Yeah, my girl got songs on the radio, okay? On both stations at the same time. So it was dope. I'm sure that like felt good. Like, I don't know if you watched P-Valley. Do you watch P-Valley? You know what's crazy? I need to get into it. Yes, you definitely need to get into P-Valley. And I've been hearing all the stuff about it, but I need to get into it. Yes, because there was a scene in the most recent episode. I don't, that's not really a spoiler, but the song for one of the artists on the show had came on the radio and they had turned it off. They were standing on the car and they're like, yeah, this is my nigga. Like, that's really like a bomb, I'm sure. You know how it's crazy? Sorry to cut you up, but like when I did the A Boogie song, of course it's A Boogie. So of course, you know, people gonna gravitate towards it. So I feel like when that played, he has the first verse and then he also has the hook. It's a long song, cause I come in on the second verse. So they had ended up cutting it when they first did it. So I feel like I never got my, I call it TLC moment. I never really got that. And then when this came on, I was like, hey, I turned it up, but it wasn't that. Cause I already was, you know what I'm saying? But whatever. I mean it was the moment, you know what I'm saying? Okay, so you said that you had the best crocodile teeth. I did. So of course, you know, I gotta ask what you thought about the Barb, Nikki's. Oh, my son Nikki, listen, I love Nikki to death. She's the queen. When I tell you, she posted me before, okay? What? She did. I was the final four in the Megatron challenge. Me and three other girls. Yes, shout out to you for that. I didn't even know that. Yes, Anne played me on queen radio and she was rapping the lyrics, girls. Yeah, she was rapping the lyrics. She was rapping the lyrics. I heard it, you see. It's on my Instagram. But I would always, so yeah, she did her thing when I crack it out to you for sure. Okay, okay. You know what I'm saying, Nikki? I know, cause I was about to say that's a big deal because that was one of the first, boy that was the first person that you mentioned when it came to like who you was listening to back then. So like to start going up in your career and actually have somebody that you looked up to. And that's my little sister, $5 that she wasn't gonna post me. I took a nap, woke up to crazy notifications and I ended up giving her a little 10 dollars. Okay. And it was beyond the posting. It's the rap and the lyrics for me. The lyrics. That's what, I should have had that ready for you. I'm gonna have to look for it through my Instagram. That is dope. So walk me through like your creative process. How does it start? What does that look like? I would say I would get inspired and I'll start writing acapella. Most of the times I'd be like, sometimes I look at what's relevant and I'd be like, okay, I wanna do this. I wanna do this remix or hold up. I'm in this mode to do this type of single. And it just comes to me and I'll write to music. Most of the time it's acapella and I'll put it to something. But yeah, and I get right in the studio and then I got like 30 plus videos on YouTube. So I instantly get into the visuals and yeah. Okay, that's awesome. When I'm in the studio, I'll be rapping. I'll be laying it down in less than like 30 minutes. Really? What if my engineer was here? He could tell you, I'll book an hour. I'll do a song in like 45 minutes. A whole song. Really? Oh, that's the writer ain't you? Because when I write, I practice it. So I don't waste my time and the engineer's time, you know what I'm saying? That's why, another reason why I don't get smacked before I record. Cause it's a couple times I did get smacked before I record and I mess it up. He's saying they're like, uh-huh. Yo, he was like. That right in the studio, uh-huh. But. Okay, so you said that you would tap into basically what you wanna hop on, what tracks you wanna do a remix to. So like, what are some songs that are out right now that you feel like you would wanna do a remix to? Hmm. Right now. I would say Dusty Little King Ratchets. Okay. Because that song is fire, I love the beat switch up and everything. Okay. But I felt like, damn, I waited a little bit too long to do it. I should've been did it, but. What do you think? I don't know. That's what I was gonna say. So what do you think is the time between when a song drops and when a remix comes out like before it gets to be like too old? It depends on how fire the song is. Like for instance, Bodak Yellow was fired for a little minute, you know what I'm saying? But then you have certain songs. I don't know. All right. Capella Gray, Gala's. It was lit for a hot minute, but not as long as Bodak Yellow was hot. If that makes sense? So I feel like it depends. Yeah. Cause everybody still listen to Gala's, but not as how long they were. Did you fuck with Chloe Bailey's version of it? Did you hear it? Yes, I did hear it. I liked it. I feel like, I did like it. I feel like there was people coming for her and they always saying stuff about her, but I did like it. So do you feel like her dropping her remix was like on time? Like do you feel like it was good timing? Do you feel like she should've dropped that earlier? Cause I personally felt like it came a little late. I feel like because she's Chloe Bailey, it was okay, but she did come a little late. Yeah, cause I feel like it didn't even get played as much cause I feel like, no offense to Capella, we love you over here. But like, I feel like the song kind of like ran its course. Yeah. By the time that her- It was played out. Yeah. Like they played it. So by the time she dropped it, it was just kind of like, sounds good, you have a great voice, but. Yeah, I hate you. All right, so do you think that like when it comes to mainstream music, I know like you just dropped a nice little sexy song, but you also have a lot of hard lyrics too, where you really talking that shit. Do you think that like there's a place in mainstream for female artists who are like really talking a shit? Or- Yeah, I do. And I feel like I want to be that person if it's not there. I feel like it's room for that, you know, why not? Cause I feel like, yes, I respect to all, you know, besides Nikki, of course, I'll say she's lyrical Kim, lyrical, we spoke about Doja Cat. But I feel like there's rappers who be like, oh they pretty shit. And I feel like we need a rapper that's like, pretty as hell, but spitting that fire shit. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? I feel like, you know. Yeah. Right, right, yeah, it's fucking shit. So do you think it's harder coming up in this industry as a woman than it is? No, I feel like it was harder before. But the type of rapper I am, yeah, I want to be sexy, but I don't like to do the whole ass out. You know, I get sexy, you see my little seat too, you know what I'm saying? I do a little something, but I try not to do too much. I still leave something to be desired. Exactly. So I feel like it's harder if you're not doing that in my experience. Do you find that like, cause you are very pretty and I feel like, you know, I see like on Instagram, you know, you've been taking your pictures and stuff. Do you feel like you run into situations where guys in this industry, where they don't really take you as seriously as you want them to? No, I feel like they all take me seriously and they want to work, but as soon as I shut it down, that's what I want to work. That's what I was about to say. Like, is it they want to work or they want to work? They want to do both at the same time. Don't get me wrong, some of these females be out here well. Oh yeah. So they be used to that. But then they run into me and they don't expect it. Right. So they be like, all right. And then I might fuck around and be competition for them, feel me? So I get that vibe all the time. So that's happened to you plenty of times. I met a lot of celebrities as far as like different events. Oh, let's do a song. Let's do this. And certain things didn't happen because of I feel like, you know, I don't be with the shits. Right. So how do you go about formally like hop in on a track or reaching out for a feature or something like that without that. You know, it's crazy. And this is why I love, I believe in a higher power God. I'm very spiritual. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. I feel like I come in, I spit and I get respected. Cause I have certain people, certain features that I have, like is it happened naturally. And I'm not gonna be going what's coming out, but I got some Ooh. It sounds like That sounds like some heavy hitter in the industry. Okay. And it's coming out. And you know, something like that, it happened just based off of who I was and they respected me as an artist in my music. So I've definitely ran into those as well. Okay. But. I loved that for you. So I see like when you be outside, you had a lot of these showcases and like, it seems like, I don't want to say you're by yourself, but you know, you would just be you on stage. And I mean, this is a very male dominated industry. So how do you make sure that you have that confidence going up there? And I was crazy when I was younger, I was a dancer. I have a whole trophy for dancing and stuff like that. They used to keep me in the front, you know, certain girls. Oh, cause when you were in the front middle, you already know that was me. So I always, and somebody, I forgot who it was, one of the teachers taught me, like you scared, you nervous, look at the exit sign. Yup. So every single time I performed, whatever big stage that I, I always act like it's an exit sign and I just look through people. So with that being said, I'm never nervous. Like I'm just always, I'm ready to, I've been, I've been doing shows since 2015. I could, I probably did like a thousand shows. I'm so comfortable on the stage. Like it's nothing for me. So do you feed off of the energy of the crowd? Are you just that? And I get in my own bag and I give them that. That's what I was gonna ask. Cause I, I wanted to know like, as somebody showcases the crowd, we dead. I'm not even gonna lie. What? And when they are dead, like, I could tell they be dead, but they be like, yes. They too. Oh my God. Yes. Wow. And you see? No, go ahead, go ahead. No, I was about to say they look at me and then think I'm not going to spit what I said. Right, right. And that's what I was going to say like, has it been a time that the crowd has kind of been like, and then as you're going, they like, oh shit, we fucked up. And even as I'm going, it's still cause people behind drunk, it's like one of those intimate settings, people chilling, but I still get feedback no matter what. You know what I'm saying? Even if it don't be like, it's like I always, when I get off stage, it's a dap yo. People want to add me on Instagram. Right, right. Okay, so you just dropped, I mentioned it already, but you dropped a nice little sexy single called, what's your fantasy? So tell me about how that came about. So basically like, you know, these samples are going crazy every year. So I was like, what's a sample that I could do and it's going to go crazy. So I hit up, well, actually my manager, Tosh, she hit me up. I mean, she linked me with these producers or whatever they bodied the track, by the way. And I was like, can you do what's your fantasy? Because I love old school music. Like if you look at my playlist, I got mad old school stuff. So I was like, can you re-sample this and do it on a drill beat? He did it. And then I just channeled ludicrous. Like, you know what I'm saying? And then doing the video, I was like, I don't never do, I do sexy stuff, but I don't ever get crazy. And I wanted to make it spicy. So I was like, yo, dusty. Yeah, cause I was going to ask people going to be like, dusty, why dusty did it? You know what I'm saying? He's a dope artist. You know, I respect him. Shout out to my boy, Dusty. And I was like, yeah, it made sense. I was so wondering that girl. I'm not even gonna lie. I was like, Dusty not even in the song. So what are you doing with the video? What's going on here? I wanted to make it spicy. I wanted people to like, oh, what's going on? Like, how's the point? Okay. And I mean, the video looked like a vibe. It looked like y'all had a lot of fun. Yeah. So, so I know you just dropped a new song. What's your fantasy? Yeah. And in lieu of the title, I'm gonna play a little game with you. Okay? So you got your cup ready. So that's how we're gonna do it. I looked up the top 10 fantasies that women have or some of them at least. And I want you to tell me if you have ever or would do what I say. Now you could take a little sip if you don't want to answer, but I'ma limit you to three. Okay. Okay. All right. So being a stripper or putting on a show. Putting on a show? Putting on a show, like doing a striptease. But, okay, am I going too deep for mad people or for one person? No, just for one person. If that's your thing or two. Whatever. I would. Yeah. I would do a striptease. You would do a striptease? Yeah. Okay. And I'll say one too, because that leads me to the next one, which is three-some. I would never have a three-some. Really? Why? Let me tell you why. Only because for me, maybe I didn't have enough fun in my life. But for me, like if I'm having sex with a guy, I have to like him and I have real feelings for him. Okay. So watching fucking another female, I'ma be like, okay. Okay, that's all that episode on Melanie on the game. She was like, she changed her mind? That's gonna be me. I feel like I could understand that, especially if it's your man. I mean, I don't, let me not say that, cause I know that people do like that. But I, for also, I gotta see, I wonder if it's a guy that I don't really like, like that, that I'm, I don't know. But I have to be with another female. I would never do a three-some with two guys. Totally agree. Okay. All right. Role reversal or trading places? Role reversal. I mean, role reversal. Trading places on some usher shape. No, I'm saying it like, it's the same thing, yeah. Like trading places on some usher shape. Like you the dominant one this time, or? Well, I be, I'm like, something like that. I'm the dominant. Yeah, I'll say, um, yeah, I'll say it. Okay. BDSM, which is like, you know, getting tied up with and all of that. See, baby going deep into that. I don't know if I would do that. Would I do that? I don't know. I'm a little- Maybe with my man, if he don't OD. But he can't be a little- That's what I was saying. I'm a little, I'm a little nervous. Cause some people be dragging it. Yeah. I might, I might, it depends. There's limits to that. Okay, okay. Give me a safe word or something. Pineapples. Okay, sex in public. Like in a public space. I've done that. Okay, now I feel like when it comes to this question, even when you play like, never have I ever, I feel like there's a lot of confusion when it comes to public. Like what do you consider a pub? Do you consider like a car to be a public place? Or yes and no? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes and no? But um, I would say public place is like somewhere that you can get caught by somebody. What about a plane? Would you join a mile hike up? I would do that, but I haven't. I would definitely do that. I feel like I get it in theory, but I just can't like picture it and mama. Something like that? No, it's- No, I think it could be any time. Like during the flight. No, I've never done it. But to me it's like, unless you want a PJ, I can't see my life like in a public Delta airplane. Oh, I got you in too small. Yeah. Like I, you know what is crazy though? I might just do it only for the experience. We've seen movies and shows and if that's your nigga, nigga, like not just like if you- Right. Or some just having fun, no. You might want to be a little spontaneous one day. All right. Well, I feel like I know your answer to this next one based on what you already said. Partner swapping. I don't know. I don't think I would, but I'll do it, no. I don't think so. I'm jealous. I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, I figured that- And I'm the type of person like especially if I end up not having a connection with the other person, I'm definitely be tight. No. Yeah, there has to be some kind of genuine connection or attraction or both. Yeah. Okay. Being watched. I've done it before. You've watched or you've been watched? I've been watched. And who was it? But it was like by accident. It was my very close friend. She was with someone as well. And I guess I like, you know, one of those nights when you two smacked, you were chin again and you comfortable. You all close. And it was one of those nights. Okay, okay, okay. Shit. I'm just, this is about you, not me. All right, role play, role play. Yeah, I would do, have I ever done it? No, I've never done it. What would you like role play as? Like if you had to come up with like something right now, like what would it give, what would you- Off the top of my head, it might be cliche like a nurse taking care of you or like a teacher or like a plumber or a teacher. That was not one that I was expecting. A plumber. Pull up with the plunger, swing it in. I see the vision, but I've never heard it before. No, maybe I need something. Yo, the Henny got my six points. He said, do you need something to clone that? I mean, why bought it? Man, funny. So I know that I said, I looked up 10, but I only included eight because I want you to give me two of your fantasies that you would like to explore. I've never, all right. Well, you know, I'm about to blow up, so this might not happen, but like I have a nine to five. I've never had sex at work. Like I've never done that. I think that would be a low risk game. Yeah, I've never done that. I would do that. And I've never had sex in the water. I would like to do that. Wait, now when you say water, do you mean like a big body of water like shower? So the shower count had shower sex. OK, but you mean like I mean, I wouldn't do the ocean because like obviously ocean water. No, I don't think I would do that. But the pool, I would try. See, I don't even know about the pool, to be honest. You're right. I feel like either one is just like a. All right, let's just do bathwater. I don't think I did bathwater. OK, shower, but not the tub. There you go. Like the jacuzzi or yeah, got it, got it. OK, all right. So we're going to get back into that. Now that we know what your fantasies are. So you definitely said that you felt like what's your fantasy was going to be the song of the summer. Yeah, so in addition to that, what do you think are like the songs of the summer that are right now? You know, last, last burner boy. OK, shout out to Lurike. I love that. You said that the other day. That for sure. You think I was just about to say you think F and F. Oh my God, how can I forget that? See, it's the Hennessy. Yes, F and F, that's my song. Shout out to my girl, Glove, really. She does sing. She really is. Well, every time that song got in it. And that's funny because I was thinking about that. When we were having the conversation the other day, Laura had mentioned last night and I was like, for sure. But I couldn't think of any other song. And I got in my car and was like, hold on. It's like taking the summer over like you're not going nowhere without that song being played at all. So what do you think it is about a song that can make it like the song of the summer? Like what is it about it? The hook, honestly, like it just has to be catchy and like something that like, hold on, like, you know, yeah. The hook, basically, like it's just got to be catchy, engaging. Because it's so crazy that burner boy made a freaking heartbreak track. It was a breakup song, basically. That shit went crazy. This might be off the record, but Tony Braxton is like somebody I grew up on too because of my mom and she's like one of the inspirations. That's crazy that we brought that song up. But love Tony Braxton. Yeah, I love her. OK, so we already talked about Dusty being in the video. And I know that you said you called him up. That's the bro. I know he's in a relationship, so we playing it safe. But like, is that your type? Is that why you put him in the video? Like, yeah, dark skin. I love all. Listen, I love all beautiful black men. OK, all colors. You just got to be beautiful, smart and on your ship. Beautiful, smart. I don't mean to say beautiful. Sorry, y'all handsome. I mean, men can be beautiful too. You're a beautiful man. Yeah, I definitely feel like men can be beautiful too. OK, so when it comes to like niggas, are you open to dating niggas in the industry? Is it like a I don't think so. No, but you never know. You know what I'm saying? Like people are I mean people like the celebrities that are lit. Like, you know, they might have a certain way of life. So I just I don't know. It's yeah, OK, I might. But my intentions right now. No, OK. But industry doesn't always have to be like artists. It could be somebody who's in the industry. That's like a movie behind the scenes or yeah, even in a movie or something like that. Dole behind the scenes. They make the most money. So they sometimes like I see you also be doing. They be the ones doing. Taxi. Yeah. So yeah, I don't I don't think so. OK, so you wouldn't fuck with somebody in the industry. Have you fucked with somebody in the street? I wouldn't say. All right, what's he says? What's it's not really T like I don't know. OK, my daughter is nine years old. OK, shout out to her dad, a billion. I would say that's that's the only thing other than that. No, OK, so I'm not going to sit here in front like I didn't know that. I just didn't know. I just didn't know if you were comfortable sharing. Yo, I hate her. You know, a lot of people don't know that because you know, I don't really be. I know, but now that you brought it up, because I'm going to be honest with you. When I was looking you up, I saw I saw that there was like a video on YouTube and it was like a billion a billion's baby mom. Yes, so that yes. Oh, girl, I do my research like oh, no. And and you know what? I didn't think that there was anything wrong with that because I feel like you've established yourself and you've created, you know, a name for yourself outside of who you had a kid with. But I'm curious to know what you think about that baby mom culture, because I think that that's become a thing now where it's like a lot of rappers have baby moms who like get famous off of being the baby mother of a rapper. Yeah. And I'm interested in knowing like, what do you think about that? I think it does happen a lot. But shout out to the women who, even if it did happen like that and you elevated yourself, shout out to you. There are some women who are just known for that and are not elevating themselves. And you know what I'm saying? Whatever. But I wanted to take a different route. Right. You know what I'm saying? And just build my own brand like from scratch. Like, yeah. And I think that that's dope. And I think that you have done that. Like I said, you've established yourself outside of that. And I think that that's the most important part when you're Chrissy, the artist, Chrissy Vance and not just like Chrissy who had a baby with so-and-so. Yeah. So speaking of that and like your independence, I know that you are not signed. No. And you said something along the lines of like, it costs like one million to sign me or something like that. You said in the song. I did. So like, is that really what it would take? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Because like I've been like, yes, I'm underground. Yes, I'm still up and coming. But I've done so I have a song with a boogie at the time. You had the number one album in the world or the nation. One of them, you know what I'm saying? And like, besides that, like I put out good music. Like I do shows, you know what I'm saying? I'm I'm like, I'm the perfect package. I just need I'm it's coming. But you know what? I wasn't even asking in terms of like what you're worth, the one million part. It's just like when I hear one million, I'm like, damn, that's a hard sign. Because I feel like I'm going to get you back. And then some all I need is that machine behind me for real. So it's like I have everything. I have the look and the talent. And I feel like what I've been through has built me for, you know. So what do you look for when it comes to like a label? Like, what is it that they would need to have in order in order for you to change your mind or not even change your mind, but for you to decide to sign to them? So they would be definitely have to give a good amount of advance money, right? And I don't want to be stuck in something for years. OK, yeah. So like your contract will have to be like I would like me. I could get in the studio anytime. So I could put out if you want to do three albums for this amount. And I could do that, but I just want to make sure that like it makes sense. You know, you know, a lot of these artists I don't want to be that. Yeah, a lot of them get as long as like, you know, I got my lawyers and I got my people that's going to read the contract. So as long as it's it's not a 360 or like something that's going to put me in a hole with it, you know what? You seem to really have like a good head on your shoulders. Like you already mentioned, like you save me your money. So you seem financially literate and just like responsible and on top of like doing the things. So I just want to like shout you out for that. Thank you. I appreciate that. That's really like a lot of people who are trying to come up are really just focused on getting clout and just getting a bag. Yeah, but like behind the scenes, it's like they don't got this together. So I definitely want to commend you on that. Thank you. The last time that you was here, you you have said something when asked about like comparing yourself to other artists or something, you said, these artists don't stand for what I stand for. So I want to revisit that now four years later and ask, like, what is it that you stand for? What is it that you stand for presently? Like you're non negotiables, like I'm not trying to. Show my ass in cities. Like I want to be sexy because that's like they want all female rappers to do that. You know what I'm saying? It's not wrong with being sexy. I show my little, you know, I got my little nipple rings, I show a little imprint, show a little bra. You know what I'm saying? A little butt cheek. But I don't want you to like I'm only acceptable because my whole ass is out my thong and I'm twerking. You see my little, you know what I'm saying? I'm not I don't want to be that. Right. I want to like you respect me because I could I rap better than your father, your favorite rapper, your boyfriend. You know what I'm saying? I want to be respected for that. And I'm pretty, a lot of pretty females are really just on a pretty shit. And you know what I'm saying? I want to show that pretty females could rock with the big dogs. Like, you know what I'm saying? Do you feel like you get the attention that you deserve? No, but it's OK. It is OK because I'm still like I know a lot of shit is coming. You feel me? And I know what's about to happen. So I'm like, I'm just I just count my blessings as I go. So when when it comes in, this is I don't want to start a pot at all. But like when it starts when it comes to like when it comes to like, let's say shout out to Game of Order radar, but like the lady cipher, you know, women are holding down New York and stuff like that right now. Dude, how do you feel like seeing that and like not being a part of that, not being a part of like the list that come out? So when I saw the site, I said, fuck, I didn't hit up Chrissy Banz. Like I'm Brooklyn. I'm New York. Like, are you dumb? But I also I'm not dumb. I know it comes with the clout. And you know what I'm saying? Certain connections as well. Plus there was three women that I fuck with hard, Billy B, Lola Brooke and Kay Goddess. I love them and they always show love. So I was like, I wasn't salty about it at all. But I did say I think I wrote under it, too. Like, hey, I forgot Chrissy Banz, but it's all right. Because they was really like New York, Brooklyn. Like I'm supposed to be a part of that, right? But I wasn't mad about it. I was just like, I'm going to show you. Yeah, you use it as, you know, count me out, but you don't see what's coming. I like that. Like instead of letting it get you upset, you use it as motivation. Exactly. So do you feel like you get you mentioned three of the New York ladies already, but do you feel like you get recognition from like your fellow like female artists? Yeah, like those three ladies, they definitely show me love. We follow each other on Instagram. Always show when I see them, it's always love. Yeah, so other other female rappers don't know. I think I'm a threat to them. I'm not going to say any names. So don't ask me. Is it? I won't ask. You see, I said I'm certain Apollo, but they are certain females, I feel like are very threatened by me. Do you feel that like through social media is like an in person thing? Like, how? No, never in person. How can you tell when somebody feels that way against you? You know, I'm used to certain love and when you don't give it, when you when you know someone saw something or you know someone. So even maybe it was in person, maybe whatever. But the point is when you know, you know, and I feel like, yeah, there's certain females that don't even want to sit next to me because they know they can't. I hear that. Talk your shit, sis. Talk your shit. I'm just saying. So you, you said something like, stop telling, stop telling your friend that you could, that they could rap. Oh my God. And I wanted to talk to you about that. OK. Because I'm interested to know, like, at what point do you take? Because, you know, some people are very hard taking criticism, even if it's constructive. Yeah. So, like, at what point do you think it's beneficial to, like, tell somebody that they can't rap versus? See, it's easier said than done. I know I said that, but I've never been able to say that to someone. Right. There's people that I know and I'm sorry. To Hennessy and Burprin. But there's people that I know and, like, I even follow. And, you know what I'm saying? They do music or just started doing music a few years ago or now or whatever. And I'm just like, they, it's horrible. Yeah. And I'm just like, damn, I want to, I want to support because you supported me. But it's like, you're not giving me much to work with here. At all. And I don't want to be mean at all, but it's just that it's not made for everybody. Everybody's going to do it. At what point, like, when you make a music, at what point do you feel like, it's like, all right, give it up? Like, how long do you feel like you have to keep making trash music before you got to let it up? Like, I feel like the first song, if it's not good, that you should just. Not the first song. The first song is OD. The first song is OD. No, the reason why I say that is because, all right, if you put that first song out and people don't like it, who's going to take you serious? You got to put out something that, you know, people going to engage in. All right. So if back to your question, I would say, OK, the third one. OK. If you couldn't get it by the third song, it's like, stop. Come on. I just feel like, damn, because like, that doesn't give any time to grow. What if on that third song, somebody was like, all right. No, but let me tell you something. I could play you my first rap. But that's you because you're a writer and you knew how to do poetry, and they was screaming and clapping when you did your first poem. True, but we're. So you can't compare yourself. But but we in a day and age now, like, if you don't get it right by the first 10, 15 seconds, nobody wants to hear you. Yeah, that's a fact. So that's just what it is. When we do these open mics, these showcases, like, it depends on what you first say. Nobody is going to sit there and listen. People be talking. Look at me. They think I'm going to do some regular rap shit when they see me. It's not until I really start spitting. They be like, what the fuck, you know? Mm-hmm. So what about Tik Tok? Yeah, what you think about what you think about Tik Tok stars? As far as like them, like a lot of Tik Tok stars, I know have like started in make they started making music, like, you know, I'm trying to like join. I mean, see, it's crazy that you say Tik Tok stars, like everybody, like it can happen overnight. So I can get lucky it like. So I just commend everybody. I don't really like it's funny that you asked that question. I don't really have an answer to it, because if you made a video on Tik Tok and you just blew up and now you like, the African guy. The African guy. He does videos like you show a hat. Oh my God, he'd be like. And he'd be like, you could have just did this. Yeah. I love him. Yeah. Like he, it was overnight. So it's like, if that happens for you, cool. But if he's nice, if he's nice, I'ma fuck with it. I mean. If he's trash, bro. All right, y'all want me to get Mixy? Who'll get Mixy? All right, it's your turn to start a pot. Let's go. All right, I'ma name two people. I love them both, but why? Uh-oh. They're famous. Okay. Beautiful. Mm-hmm. India Love. Okay. And Black China. Love both of them. But what are you doing? Like don't just, you know what I'm saying? You know what? I am not going to push back on that. And I actually realized that. Shout out to India, because India was the original Instagram model. I remember Tumblr days. A lot of people don't give her enough homage. Nobody even acknowledges that. She was that girl before that girl was even a thing. But I will say, she was somebody that I really wish that she would have done something once she got the attention that she was getting. Like, bro, you're not telling me you couldn't start a business, start doing something. Like, because now niggas know India for dating. It's like, oh yeah, she was with the game. She was with this person. She's with the boxer now. But it's not even awesome. Like, okay, she came up. She's doing this, she's doing that. Right, right. And that's really what I wish that she would have. And that's the thing. You see how beautiful she is? Yup. And I mean, she's in the show now. Oh yeah. She's on that beat. She had the shows with her sisters and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. I love her to have no shade to her, but I just feel like if I was in her position, like I would have tried to do like a lot more. And this is no shade to India, because we just see your potential girl if you happen to be watching this. No girl. We just see what you can bring to the table. Constructive criticism. Absolutely. So what would you say so far has been like the highlight of your year? Of this year. If you had to pick one, yup. I would say the What's Your Fantasy video. I feel like I revamp myself and being around Dusty, like he's a new artist. You know, he's getting a lot of attention. And I just feel like coming from the situation with my ex-manager and stuff like that, I feel like you said about the revamp, and I didn't revamp, but I felt like that was my first single separating from that. And I was with a dope artist and a lot of attention was on me because of it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's still on me. It was playing on Hot 97. Shout out to my boy Drew Ski. Shout out Drew Ski. It was lit, but... Okay, so that was the highlight. For this year so far, yeah. Okay. So let us know what you got coming. All right, so what can we look forward to this year? I know you say you got a heavy hitter on an album or on a track that, you know, you did it this close. Yeah. You think we can get a little hint or something who it is? So all I'm gonna say is he's from Philly. Oh, okay. Cause Philly is doing that thing right now. Heavy hitter in the industry, yes. Shout out to them. Okay. Now, since, you know, we've been getting along real good since we've been sitting here, I would say, right? Yes. What's your sign? But, oh God, you sound like Lori. With Aries? Yes. My daughter's a Aries. Oh, Leah. Leah, okay. I don't know much about Leo's, but I'm sure I have someone in the building who definitely knows cause she's our Zodiac girl. She, she know all of that stuff. But I just set the stage because I kind of had a little problem with something that you said. Uh-oh, okay. Let's get into it. So you have made a video and you was like how women need to stop acting like niggas and stop drinking the Cosmigos. And if y'all can't see. No, that's not what I meant. That's what's in the cut. Let me tell you something. Cause I drink Cosmigos. What I meant is we, us women, we've been through a lot. And most of it, not all of it, most of it has been because of our decisions and the men we choose, you know, things like that. So I would say, this is what I always say. Listen to me carefully. Unless she's a hoe and she likes to just do hoe things. She's being a hoe because a guy broke her heart. Am I lying? So when you say don't act like a nigger, it means like in terms of like. Because these girls is out here, they want to put their hands on a nigger. Oh, I'll push that nigger in the face, right? Put their hands on a nigger. They want to beat a nigger as far as like, yeah, like, all right, damn. See, why are you thinking? I'm gonna just say it's hard for women, not, and I'm not saying that what you said is wrong. You're not wrong. But I feel like it's hard for women not to be the niggers of today when niggers want to be treated like women so bad. Like I feel like. You're absolutely right. I feel like they, the dynamic has changed so much. You know it's crazy, you're absolutely right. But in my experience, right? Because it's like, it's niggers, boys, and then there's men. You know what I'm saying? And some women, they dwell on what they've been through, what they last nigger put them through. They want to be toxic so bad. Don't put your hands on a nigger because when he punch you the fuck in the face, you're gonna be crying boo-hoo. A lot of these bitches want to be abusive. A lot of these bitches want to be crazy with their knives and shit like that. That's what I mean. Keep it cute. And if you got a problem, just leave. Don't let a nigger get you out your bag. Exactly, like these bitches want to be the cheaters. They just out for these niggers with their money. Don't get me wrong. Yes, I agree. However, it's how you do it. Don't just sit there and be like, if he's a good nigger, you know what I'm saying? Don't be just being a gold digger. Like this guy, he do this YouTube thing. He be gold digging and stuff like that. I mean, searching for gold diggers. He'll act like he's regular. And then when she dub him, he'll walk to his car and then the bitch will walk back. I would never do that. You know how many niggers try to talk to me in their cars? You better off bagging me on the street than in a car. I mean, and after that, I feel like it's no way I'm a WN. My pride just will not let me turn around and be like, oh, it's your car. Exactly, because they are used to that. And not even just that, it don't impress me. Because what the fuck you driving? Don't fucking pay my bills. And half the time they don't even be there is if you really want to talk about it. Exactly. It don't even be their car. And it's like, so, I could go forever with them. That's what I'm about to say. I know you got stuff to do after this. I'm not gonna keep you here for too long. But I know what we expecting. Is there anything else that you want to just talk about? Get off your chest while we got you here? I just want to say like, you know, be yourself. Don't let what you see on social media, you know, define how you're gonna be as a person. Or like, don't try to impress nobody. Just be yourself. And if they not, if it's not given, then do something else. Like, you know what I'm saying? Stop trying to be down with what? Everything is not for you. I'm tired of a fake, yo, just see it. I could go on forever. We gon' have to have a part two. We gon' have to have you back. It's a lot of fake stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a lot of real ones life. You know what I'm saying? So just be real. That's a word. Authentic. Authenticity. It's definitely cheating. That's what my manager talks with Tosh. We outside, you know, shout out to my boy, Drowsy. Big step up. Drowsy been providing the sound effects this whole interview. When I went through the stuff of my ex-manager, like, this is a team that came and gave me the support that I needed, you know what I'm saying? And yeah, we about to make some big moves. That's what's up. Shout out to Talk of the Town. Yes, a shout out to you, Chrissy. Thank you for coming back. It was so good having you. This was such a good conversation. Thank you. Yes, it was. And yeah, thank y'all for watching. And we off to the outside.