 Okay. Hello. Welcome to the DevCon 13 in your city with Guder Wolf, Muroi Allen and Hoger Lebsen. Thank you. Okay. You know why you are here, and it doesn't really surprise me, this is a very full session. Now, we have many possible bidders. We are very happy because when the camp started, we didn't have any real bids. This time, I think we have nine. So, we should all try to hurry up and get all of the bids below five minutes. Five minutes is fine, not below five minutes. And if you do six minutes, please talk slowly and take your time. I know of three bids, actually. So, it's not that. Four, four, four, therefore. We have slides for four bids, actually. So, randomly, we decided to start with Vienna. So, somebody from the Vienna team, please grab the microphone and... What is it? XPDF minus four is green. Which was Vienna? This one was Vienna. Yes, I would like to present the bid for Vienna. We already have a DeBiener logo for quite a while, which is the skyline for Vienna. Just a few pictures for which Vienna is known. Please go ahead. The big wheel is one of the main Vienna's attractions. The St. Stephen's Cathedral is also quite well known. Vienna is a big city, a well-known tourist city. These are the people that potentially are involved within the core local team. You might know most of us. We have been all more or less involved in different organizations of events. Please go ahead. A rough estimate about the city, 1.7 million inhabitants. Accessibility is no issue at all. All the public transports are accessible for handicapped people. Vienna has a big part of the United Nations. So, English is very well known within this city. Yes, the only problem might be for people who are smokers, because in restaurants nowadays there are special designated areas for non-smokers. In public building, smoking is not permitted anymore. It's no problem to get to Vienna at all. The Vienna airport is really close. It's not one of the cheapest airports I have to admit, but there are cheap airports all around with great connections through either trains or buses. So, the connection thing is not an issue. About visa, we are part of the Schengen, and it's the same for almost any country in Europe, so no problem on these areas. Because it's also a big city, there is no problem with being able to get any hardware stuff that is needed last minute or replacements or things like that. We haven't contacted any venue yet, but when we think about Dabconf in and they're usually summertime, July, August, universities are mostly empty. Student dorms are mostly empty. We can use these facilities to get a great place to hook up. These are some of the possible places. Food is also not much of a problem. There are really great diverse variations there. About recreation, there is a lot around. Lower Austria is well known for hiking around. Vienna itself is a very big tourist attraction, so in that area. Next slide, please. Vienna is also known as the city of Johann Strauss and some other great musicians, so for recreation and other parts, there is much to explore. Day trip options include going, hiking to some place, and maybe some other nice ideas that are hanging around. Yeah, like I mentioned, July or August is probably the best time in that respect. So I think that would be the last. I just want to add that I'm here because many people brought me to be here. I have been thinking about doing it for at least seven years before even Helsinki came up, but I never managed to get people for the local team ready, but it looks like we have great people around for joining the local team these days. Thank you, Ronna, the next is Aigas, who will present the Latvia bit with Riga, with which video? So this is the video that was shown at the New York Times Square, the 32nd video without sound about Latvia in general. So lots of green, some architecture, some rivers. Fast boats. Very fast boats, yes. Well, it had to fit in 30 seconds, so that is Latvia. You saw on the map where it is on the very beginning. Now we're going with the, yes, right there. Next video or now the images? Right. So Riga is multi-sat at its city that I want to have the depth conf in. So it has more than 800 years old. It has lots of small streets in the middle and wonderful architecture that has been both very old and just restored stuff and very old buildings that have completely been from the 16th. But then there is lots of modern touristy stuff as well. So the center of Riga is quite a tourist attraction in the nowadays. And then of course there is Soviet era buildings starting from the simple blocks of apartments that people live in actually in the suburbs of the city. And like the market with huge pavilions and lots of green around the city, lots of parks. The city is quite compact and now we're looking from the center of the city and there's a cross across the bridge. We see one of the primary locations and here we're looking back to the main cityscape. We have quite good infrastructure in Latvia. So just recently there was a report about average measured internet speeds and Latvia came number seventh in the world just beating out Switzerland. I'll mention here that all the venues proposed at least one gigabit optical connection directly to the venue. Some have links to 10 gigabit optical connections. Right, so here's a map of the center of the city with the proposed venues that you can see on the Vicki page mapped out. Number one is where the dormitories and the Riga Technical University buildings that we can use for the venues. And number two there is a hotel, a huge hotel that can hold all of us and have a lot of spare rooms as well. And has all the conference facilities as well with the two prime mentioned as the Latvian University building that also has as an alternative venue location. So we have actually three housing possibilities and four venue possibilities. Many of the venues we will almost assuredly will get free but the housing might cost us a bit. A bit for the student housing, a bit more for the hotel housing. So this is the student housing. It is a quite an old Soviet style building that usually during the year houses thousands of students. I'll go very fast to the venue, the primary venue. Does the student house have internet? Yes, gigabit optical internet and ethernet jacks, multiple ethernet jacks in every room. So here we see from the center of the city and across the river, across the bridge, that is where the actual primary venue is. Now we see the secondary venue, the hotel in the background there, the big building, a close-up of it here. It actually held for example Euro-Python conference last year and that is the look that it has from that hotel upstairs. So yes, many conferences. Now we can show the funny side of the Latvian people with the last bit and that is all from me. Sound is not important. Thank you very much. So for all people who are not aware of this, today we just present some bits. If you still want to do bits later, you're welcome to do so. The deadline for submitting a bit is the last day of this year, end of December and then in January or February I'm not fully aware of the timeline right now, we will decide. But today is just showing what options we have and what could be done. If you have better ideas, please bring them up. And the next is Switzerland. So what is that? So we are Switzerland by the way in case. I don't think we should present anymore because anyway I mistakenly sent the email to the... they've come to discuss mailing list so everyone knows everything about that. This is Switzerland and well there's a moan, sorry. It's very nice, you can camp around over there. There's Ethernet. Yeah, there's Ethernet. No, no, no, it's GSM but the signal is not so strong. So anyway, by the way, that's on the left side is the logo of TebianCH. So why in Switzerland? Because it's a beautiful country. There's Alps, lakes and landscapes. There's also people and cows in case. There are multicultural cities with a human touch. Most of the cities are in a sense small, with three biggest, four biggest cities like Basel, Zurich, Geneva and the capital of Berlin, which is in the small, less in the center of the cities. There are quite a lot of international entities like one of the offices of the UN, like the ITU for example, ISO for example, the CERN. There are four official languages spoken in Switzerland and actually we are the second ISP, we have the second ISP of DDs per country, which means that probably most of the DDs should not pay to go there. Okay. And then, well, it seems that we have quite a bad connectivity, but still we have big internet exchange points, we have fiber connection, which are available in most locations, especially in the biggest cities, and the network coverage in the smallest one is quite good. And actually I would like to remind that we have quite a lot of ISPs that are Debian friendly, which is probably a good point. The infrastructure is a well-organized country, at least for tourism. We have a good and dense transportation network. Actually you can travel all over Switzerland more or less two to three hours by train. There are three international airports, Geneva, Zurich and Basel. The Euro airport, we are a member of the Schengen area, and quite a lot of established local communities. Well, the time and place, we haven't chosen any city yet, or we haven't chosen any actually venue. No, what was the other one? Chalet. Okay, because if you can find a big chalet, it could be a good option. So if it would be at university, probably it should be in June, July, when there's no more students. One of the problems is that the accommodation can maybe be too expensive, and there are no really dormitory, big dormitory around in Switzerland. This is unfortunate, but this is the situation. At the same times, if you are in the cities, everything is nearby, and you have all kinds of services, facilities for everyone. Switzerland now has no smoking country in a restaurant, you can still smoke outside if you want. And if you go for the country side, which could be quite a good option, well, we will be not really in that chalet, but maybe another one. And it should be in October and November, because we should be out of the season in order to reduce the prices. Another option will be April or May, and if it's in October, November, sometime you can still ski, which is quite good. It's easier to organize and you are in a natural environment, but it's difficult to find suitable venues in the sense that there are no, we should be in a hotel, so there's no really big, big hotels, and they are quite expensive as well. Okay, well, for the local team, DBNCH is an established local entity, which exists and works quite well. There's a prospective core team of three to five people, and at least until now, given that the bid was decided three to four days ago, we have 10 active members that have been involved. Most of them are here or were here, and there are others on the mailing list that already helped. And we have found actually quite local volunteers from the virus community, like Lugz or University. And finally, well, if you have any questions, you can ask questions. Thank you. So the next is Montreal, somebody here to say something about Montreal. Okay, then show the wiki page. Reload the page. So Istanbul, somebody. So there's apparently an Istanbul webpage by Sebastian Tanor. I make it bigger. Yeah, Murray is apparently driving it to be confirmed. Okay, that was Istanbul. Next is Greece, somebody from Greece here. So there's a Greek look, which is apparently claiming to organize this. All members of the Greek look are willing to give their support, all 60. Location is some hotel. I can still make it bigger, but it's go to the wiki yourself. Greece has some airports, science facilities. I'm not really prepared to propose this. Next is United Kingdom. Someone here, Neil. I do have a bit of a habit of being volunteered for these sort of things. Instead of some slides or a video, I thought I'd talk to you about where this idea came from. We, I think it was indeed, yes. At this DEBCOM firm, I presume we were sat in the bar or something. And someone realized that on the Friday the 16th of August in 2012, it's Debian's 20th, 13th of August, it's Debian's birthday. It's 20th birthday. And Steve was regaling us with that when he was at Churchill College on one corridor, he could find something like the X maintainer, the tool chain maintainer and the kernel maintainer all in one place. And we thought how great it would be to be able to return there and live back a little bit of that history. And we thought, well, no, we've done one recently. And I thought they were absolutely crazy because I still remember DEBCOM 7 and how much work was involved with that. Everything from people turning up at the border without tickets or knowing where they were going to stay apart from I'm going to Edinburgh. But then I thought, no, no, that's fine. Because we know how much work is involved. And there is a lot of work. We've currently got about 22 people, I think signed up. And we know half of them will drop out and not end up doing work. But that still ends up with a good 10 that that are interested. And we thought, why Cambridge? Why Churchill? Well, apart from the history, it's fairly ideal. You've got all the lectures and all the hack labs and all the accommodation all on one site. It's one of the colleges which has a mini campus in the middle of Cambridge. And Cambridge itself is very well connected in terms of airports. It's got Heathrow, busiest airport in Europe, which is about two hours away also on the train and tube. It's got Gatwick, which is very nearby. And we have Stansted, which is about half an hour on the train from from the centre of Cambridge. Phil, lots of people on the local team. Yes? Should I make a bike out? It was bigger. Yeah. Oh, they're talking to him. Okay. That's fine. Was everybody asked to be on this list? Yes, yes. Unless you've seen your name and you're saying no, then yes. I've been told that they've all agreed with this. I've been told that they certainly all agree with it. Of course, and obviously you have the M structure in the UK, multiple gig network connections with Janet, similar to we having in Edinburgh as long as Martin Kraft, if he's around, doesn't try and plug network cables into themselves again and everything goes up. But then everything is incredibly accessible. We recently have the Disability Discrimination Act and the Equalities Act, which puts a requirement on all organisations to make sure everything is accessible. Oh, I see. Phil didn't put that there. Okay. Yeah, we took you for granted. And then we have Cambridge itself is a major tourist destination for a lot of people. There's a lot of things nearby. There's punting on the river can, which is a traditional activity, which is nice and relaxing. No whitewater rafting, I'm afraid, but a little bit more relaxing than that. And nearby you have a couple of major museums. You have Bletchley Park, which was a major code breaking operation and Alan During was, of course, employed there. You also have Duxford Air Museum, which has a wonderful collection of airports and everything to do with avionics that's just around the corner. So there's plenty of options for things to do. So in sort of summary, we decided it would be great to basically either go back to Cambridge, Churchill College, or if that doesn't work out, there's plenty of other places around that we can look. We certainly don't underestimate the amount of work that's involved, but we do have a very experienced team. We've done this before. We know the pitfalls. We can make sure people actually get to the venue. And in fact, we send them to a small island off the coast of Scotland. And somehow, everyone got back in time. I'm not entirely sure. I think we still hold the record for most number of tickets bought in a train station at Edinburgh Station. But also, it's being in the UK, again, in England. This time it has excellent connections. And I think that the local team, if you've met any of the UK people, might just be mad enough to actually give it another go. So thank you very much for listening, everyone. This is not a bit yet. West Lafayette. Anybody wanting to explain it? This was the first bid that appeared. It was suggested by Michael. Well, the thing is, he's not here to show it. I don't know if he's still pushing for it. I mean, because he hasn't been able to talk about it. It's an interesting suggestion to make David celebrate his 20th birthday on the place it all started, in the University of Purdue, in West Virginia, I think. And that's basically it. And then we have Berlin or Germany. I don't even know who is going to do this. Which one is it, Germany? Okay. Well, thanks for showing up. And I'm here to present you the bid for Germany. As you might remember, we already tried to get that con in 2011. Well, obviously this didn't work out as we hoped for. So I'm here again to show you this time the bid for Berlin. Next slide, please. I don't think I need to say a lot about Berlin. It's one of the greatest cities in the world, probably only beaten by Banja Luka and maybe New York. It has an international airport, which is currently expanded. And I've been told very thoroughly that it will be finished by 2013. It's also in Germany, in the Schengen area, so everyone who has already either fought the Schengen area shouldn't have any problems to attend. And it has very, very good accessibility. It has been a law in Germany for quite some time. In Berlin, it goes in a lot of details, including some kind of interactive maps, web maps of Berlin showing allurators which are currently broken. So yet you can evade them. And well, there's an excellent infrastructure regarding public transport and networking. Next one, please. We have a quite strong local team in Berlin, which organized the Linux tuck in Berlin. I'm sure you've heard of that before. Last year we had also a mini-Debcon and lots of smaller events, including several bugs-crushing parties. As venue, we have three big universities in Berlin. One, the Umboldt University had made us a generous, a very generous offer for the last time we did a bit. We think we will have a similar generous offer again for this bit. And well, I've been told some of you are going to the desktop summit next week, or next week, which is held at the Humboldt University, so you can take a look at the proposed venue yourself. Well, Germany is also famous for its political support of open source and free software, ranging from politicians, institutions, and important employees of institutions. We've already been in contact with some of them and they showed signs of support, but well, it's an early stage of the bit. Well, we have also some other Floss communities active in Berlin, which are not yet necessarily involved in Debian, but are familiar with free software, with how a community works. So it might be a good idea to reach out also to them and, well, expand the Debian community to them. And, well, it's not only Berlin. Entire Germany is filled with Debian developers. You probably can ask BuBu for the latest numbers of Debian DDs. And it's not only DDs, it's also a big community of users, contributors, and otherwise involved. Next slide, please. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, one thing I'd like to mention, which I forgot that's a slide, I was supposed to tell this, that we've also already contacted some sponsors. Some of you might have already seen this. So it isn't Schleichwerbung, nobody could read it. So we think we can handle it. And I'm looking really forward to see you in Berlin in 2013. So there are 154 active DDs in Germany. Thanks. Any other questions? Okay, thanks. So are there any questions about those bits which don't turn out into a long discussion? We'll have months on the mailing list on IRC. No, really, this session is mostly about an opportunity for the leaders to show their offers to the community, as at large as it can fit in this room. If you have any general questions to any of them, now is the right moment. Of course, again, this is not the final list. We do expect them to be as bold as Tiago and withdraw when it's still time. But of course, we expect at least one of them to go all the way through and make the foolish step of hosting the conference home. So please, any questions? Others? If there are no more questions, I have another proposal, which is not really for Debcon 13, but rather for 14. So Debcon 14 and Martinique. Yeah, it's located nicely between Venezuela and Cuba. But it's France, so it's the European Union. And seriously, it's basically done. There will be no shoes and there will be no stress. It's all good, but there's no local team yet. We don't have a venue, so it's work still needed to be done. And I think there are many bars on the beach. And so it's not yet done, but I would really like seriously to do it, but there's one DD living there and we need to see how this works out. But it's France and French speaking, so maybe we'll see. We have to assure that the living conditions are right for each of our DDs. And the other thing which I wanted to propose here, it's in the idea state, is Debcon 18 on a boat. It will probably be a rather smaller boat because the previous boat holds three or four thousand people and this I think is for 400 people or something. Should be just without the ice. This is actually the tour the Pearl cruise did in 2005, so there has been geeks on a ship already. Of course, the biggest issue are the coast. I've asked around. It's between 5,000 and 20,000 euros a day to rent such a ship, but the really expensive part is the internet uplink. That's why I proposed it for 2018 or 2020 because I expect technology will advance and then it might be cheaper. We could either Caribbean Sea would be an idea or Mediterranean Sea where we could also do Debcon, say, Barcelona for a week or five days and then start shipping around the sea and picking up people in different airports. But there are of course problems if we are all locked together for a week. Maybe we'll kill each other or other stuff will happen. Penny already said she would definitely not attend, so I'm really curious how many other people are saying no, this is insane or if you really should think about it and do it. Accessibility might also be an option. I don't know. The ships are usually accessible, but I hear that on a 10-floor ship, only one handicap person was only three were accessible, so we'll have to see what ship we'll find. Yes, obviously. Yeah. If you know about cruise ships or internet on ships, please talk to me with me. I know Ingo Jürgensmann is working on that. And I also proposed this to make us think about new crazy options how to do Debcon differently. It doesn't have to be a four-star hotel each week, each year. It can also be huts on the beach or something completely different. That's it. I just took the pictures from Wikipedia, the Perkfruz and Andrew. What did you say? BDA should launch the internet uplink. We all agree on that. Consider it done. If you have the budget for that, we have many more creative ideas. Any more questions? Any volunteers for 14 or 18? Yeah, maybe. Okay, then let's close this here. Thank you all to all the BITS teams. I look forward to what will happen in two years.