 Another time when I was in the mill, I came in at night, I was just checking things out and I found one of the mechanics that we call the boilers in those days, leaning over one of the pieces of equipment. I wonder what's wrong with them. I went up and he was drunk as a skunk. I said, you know the rules, get your stuff and head out of here, pick up your paid of armor. So he grumbled but he left and then a while later again I was catching up on some work and he came down and he was obviously ready to have a fight with me. I was pretty good, I had been on the wrestling team at the university and I started on combat when I was in the Army. And you were boxing too when you were a kid? I was boxing as a kid so I wouldn't do it. I fought a lot of big guys and so he came in and not far behind him came the president of the union and the secretary, two tough guys from the roughing mill, big strong guys and Frank Bobby who's a communist and the other guys, they were good workers. They came in and they grabbed this guy and wheeled him out and I said, what was that all about? When they came back they said, Jerry, did you know he had a knife and he was going to kill you? I said, oh, that made it a trouble. But they were, that was the president of the secretary of the union and I got along well with the union. They liked somebody with a strong hand and eventually I had to cut it down from three chefs to two because we could produce all the steel that the melt shot could produce and two chefs. And so I said, we got him. I called the union guys and I said, we've got kind of one total chef and he said, I'm not going to do it by seniority. And I said, I'm going to pick the crew and if you guys don't like it, you can stay out until Hal freezes over as far as I'm concerned. And they said, Jerry, just settle down. We know it's a tough call, but just let us screen the people that you're going to cut out. I said, OK. And they were the one guy that they protected.