 I think we have our quorum. And I am going to call the meeting to order and ask that you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all. Todd, I hear you in the chambers. Could you introduce or indicate who's present in the chambers? Yes, ma'am. We have Vicki Schneider, Chad, Laurie Serkey, and Kerry Arons, and then Scott behind the wheel. All right, very good. Our next order of business is a motion to approve the minutes of January 11. Move to approve. Second. All right, we have a motion. And the second is there any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Let's move on to 3.1, which is an exciting resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the sight lease agreement between Wisconsin Power Light and the city of Sheboygan regarding a solar voltaic generating facility. Chad, is that yours? It is. So thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. So this document before you is to lease a portion of property, an 80 acre parcel in the Sheboygan Business Center. This parcel would be directly west of the large NEMAC manufacturing facility off of Gateway Drive. The parcel right now has not been very marketable, if you will, because it has a large stormwater detention pond on its street frontage. So we showed the parcel to Alliant Energy when they announced a customer-hosted solar energy collaboration that they were doing with municipalities. And given that it's close to the overhead power lines that go into the Edgewater generating plant and close to some substations, they found this property acceptable to construct a one megawatt solar generating facility. So under the terms of this lease, they would lease the property for 25 years. I believe there's three five-year renewals, and they will pay us a sum total of $45,000 over monthly payments for leasing the property. So everything else has been worked out between the city attorney's office and their attorneys, and finds it acceptable to move forward. Questions for Chad? Madam Chair, I've got a question. Sure. Thank you. Can you go over the payment schedule again one more time? Was that $45,000 over the 30-year time span or 25-year time span? Was that $45,000 a year? It's $45,000 a year, which will equivalent, will be paid out in equal payments over 12 months. There I think is a, there might be an escalator in there after a few years for changes, but it's at $45,000, $46,000 right now. Thank you. Madam Chair. I've got a question. It was a 20-year lease renewable three times. It's a 25-year lease renewable three times. In five-year increments. Thank you, Madam Chair. Chad, I'm having trouble visualizing exactly where this is going to be. And you said NEMAC. That's not the NEMAC plant across from Acuity, is it? No, it's NEMAC's main manufacturing plant that's in the Sheboygan Business Center. So Barron's Parkway and Gateway Drive would be the intersection where this parcel would be. So if I'm driving down South Business Drive and I look over to the right when I get out of the business park area, I'm not actually going to be able to see it from South Business Drive. You are not going to be able to see it from South Business Drive, but you will be able to see it from Salt Taylor Driver I-43. OK. All right, thank you. One other thing, I just wanted to touch base with Attorney Adams. Chuck, you're completely comfortable with this agreement. I read it over in some detail yesterday, and I didn't really have any questions. It's very lengthy, but you're very comfortable with all of the details of it? Yeah, we had a time going back and forth on some things, and they were very cooperative. Thank you. Other comments, questions? Oh, this is terrific. So we need a motion to recommend that we execute the S-A-A-S, nope, I'm on the wrong, sorry about that, I'm on the wrong action item. So we are looking for a motion to execute the sight lease agreement between Wisconsin Power and Light in the city. Is there such a motion? I'll move. All right, and did I hear a second? Either one of Robert or myself had that, the first or the second. Is there any other discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Very good. Moving along to the S-A-A-S service agreement, 3.2 is a resolution authorizing the Director of Planning and Development to execute the S-A-A-S services agreement between Benevate for Neighborly Software. Todd, is that yours? Actually, Chad will talk a little bit, and then I'll come in at the end. OK. Thank you, Madam Chair. So this is to implement some software that the city administrator alluded to in his state of the city address. This software will be used between the finance department and city development, and it'll be used primarily to administer the community development block grant program that we get from HUD on a yearly basis. So this started out as looking at the options of trying to find some better loan tracking software, because as a city administrator alluded to in his presentation, we're trying to get loans and other things off of the AS-400. So the plan was to look for some loan tracking software, and as we were going through interviewing vendors, the group thought that it made sense to look at it for a little bit wider piece than just loan tracking software, but to look at it for tracking all of the demographic data, all of the loans, and different things that we do with the community development block grant program. So this software is specific to CDBG funds. This software has an import to the federal system, so we don't have to double enter all the demographic and income data that we do on a daily basis, and it'll also allow us to track public service applicants, public facility, projects, loans, environmental reviews, all the federal stuff that we go through on a daily basis and right now are pretty much managing on spreadsheets and with paper files. So the goal is to make this more real time, particularly for the loan tracking piece so that our loan applicants can get to the loan history online and see where their loan stands, and they can also request payoffs and different things and kind of manage their loan portfolio without always having to come through the finance or city development departments. So this is we'll fund this with CDBG federal dollars on a yearly basis, and it'll streamline the operations of how we do things today between the city finance department and the city development department. Questions for Chad or Todd, do you want to go ahead first? Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to kind of point out to the committee that, as Chad had pointed out, this is going to be a great asset for city development and for the finance department, as I had stated in the state of the city, we are looking to utilize technology to improve our processes. This is one of those processes that from a, as a past older, looking at our finance and personnel, talking about loans. This is one of those opportunities where we're going to get it off the AS 400. We're going to be able to modernize it. We're going to be able to extend the services that it actually covers, as Chad had alluded to. And we're going to be able to use technology to improve our processes. And it's a collaboration between development and the finance department. So this is a really good example of how we're going to use a technology to bring the development department in with finance and be able to take care of our constituents at a much, much higher level. They can even set themselves up so that they can go online if they choose to. And with a username and password, they'll be able to actually look at their loans that they have with the city. So I'm hoping to have support from the committee and the council and move forward on this software. Thank you. Questions, Bert? Hi, I have a question. We've heard so much about the units. Does it make sense to have a distinct set of software for development and loans off of the units' platform? Now, I'm sure you vetted up the yin and yang, but just describe why. I can explain that, Madam Chair. Thank you. We brought in a company called Bacore and they helped us with the vetting process. We also, in our office, we also reached out to local municipalities to find out whom they were using, whether they were using Munis, whether they were using their own homegrown system or other programs like Neighborly. So through Bacore, they actually had made some recommendations which we reviewed two of them. And through our search with municipalities in, within Wisconsin, we found out that there was quite a collaboration. Munis is not, I hate to say it, it's one of those, a jack of all trades and a master of none. Munis has loan programs, but we were also looking for something that was going to be able to help us, not just with loans, but also with, as Chad had alluded to, our CDGB funds and our grants and things like that. So this program, Neighborly, is very good as far as it integrates with Munis. So it's a connection so that the information that finance needs, they'll be able to use it through Munis and the Neighborly part, the development team will be able to use that with the implementation with the constituents and the interface that the constituents will see will be through the actual Neighborly program. Chad, was there anything you wanted to add to that? The only thing I would add is the Munis platform did not have a very robust online application or online real-time kind of payment system. So we were really, finance right now spends a lot of time on issuing payoff letters and trying to get people loan histories and all of that stuff. And this will allow people to do that themselves if they log into the system and Munis did not have those capabilities. The other thing is we're not doing, besides receding revenues from our loans, that's probably the only piece that we're putting currently into the Munis program. But as Todd alluded to, we're doing a lot of other management of different grants and those that have been on the finance committee know that every year we come before you and we allocate funds to nonprofits and all of that kind of stuff. So all that has to be tracked and this system will allow us to do that. Thank you. So I just have probably a question for Todd. And I think one of the best things that we have started to do and that you are working and you and Daniella are working on is really moving us completely off of ASA 400 and into Munis. So this is a separate system, which I understand and I think it makes perfect sense, but ultimately when the full transference is made, how many extra computer program programs do you think we will have in addition to Munis? To get off the floor. If you have any idea, you may not. Yeah, Chair, that's kind of a difficult question to answer at this point. I guess a different way to answer the question would be to help educate the committee to understand that Munis is our ERP system. So it's our enterprise resource planning and it is typical within the private sector and within municipalities that you're gonna have kind of the core, which is the ERP system, whether it's SAP, JD Edwards, any of those. But typically you're still gonna have offshoots of programs that work that are more specialized in handling different types of processes. So as an example, when we looked at the neighborly program, it was very high tech, it was very today in age, compared to the other one that was also recommended, they were, their technology was very, I'd say 10 to 15 years old as far as how it was formatted. It's the security levels are very high, but it was not very user friendly. So again, what we're trying to do is we're trying to bring in modules, whether it's through Munis or through third party that work with Munis to streamline things, but also to make it easier for our constituents and also for our employees and departments to function. So if we can pull more processes within a module and streamline things so that we're not touching it so many times, it makes a lot of sense when you look at it from that perspective. There's a lot of things that go on behind the curtain that is very time consuming and we're trying to utilize technology to reduce, first off, things having to be entered in multiple times, you have human error on that, and then making sure that we can pull more data out like Chad had mentioned for our state and federal requirements. So I can't answer the question today and hopefully within the next six months, I'll be able to. Thank you. Well, and I certainly didn't need to put you on the spot. I, this program makes, as I say, complete sense. I'm just hoping that once we have Munis up and fully running, we don't have like a hundred extra software programs out there. I mean, this one makes complete sense. I've no problem with that at all, but it's just something to think about. I mean, I remember the days when Chuck probably remembers this where there were 1200 separate software programs that the city operated and that, you know, Paychex went through three separate programs and, you know, so even now we're wildly ahead of that, but I'm just in trance with the idea. We have one big computer program in the sky, but I do understand the need for more specialized programs. Any other questions, comments? I've got a couple of questions, Madam Chair. Thank you. Todd, or when you were looking at vendors and then you said you were looking at municipalities, are there some municipalities that you talked to that are using the system? I believe that there were a couple and Madison was also transitioning to, I think Beloit and Oshkosh are going on it too. Yeah. So again, another question. Go ahead. I was just gonna ask, I know within the last year or two, we've had a couple items come before the Finance and Personnel Committee regarding personal property tax. How are we handling that? And is this an application that could be used to track our personal property taxes so that if somebody has a question, like we did on a couple of documents in the last year or so that this would be helpful in tracking previous payments in that regard, or is that a totally different animal? Jim, that is a totally different animal. I would be doing a cartwheel if I could actually have personal property controlled under neighborly. And I'm not good at cartwheels. The point is that we are trying to bring in as different programs that specialize in things like personal property that is on our list and that's next in the sites to be addressed, but neighborly does not address that situation. And that's really a municipal program. I thought maybe we could sneak that in there for that 14 grand or whatever we're paying, so. I agree. We both would be doing cartwheels then. I wanna see Todd do a cartwheel. Yeah. I would just like to say from the development side of this equation, it would be delightful to be able to key in X, Y, Z, ABC, one, two, three and have a report because we have struggled with those things in the past. So anything that helps us track our money and keep the feds happy, I'm happy too. Thank you. Any other comments, questions? All right. I'll make a motion to approve, Madam Chair. All right, so this is a. I'll second that. Motion to execute the services agreement with Benevate Inc. We have a motion and second, is there further discussions? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. All right, let's move on to 3.3, which is the notice of claim from Kaylee Reidenor, Chuck. No, this is just before you in order to file. This was merely a notice of claim and the time has passed for her to file her claim. And so the matter can be filed if she has not done. We have a motion to file. Don't move. I'll take a second. All right, we have a motion and second. Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. All right, moving down to 3.4, which is a resolution authorizing the city to execute an agreement and I'm sorry, an amendment to the offer to purchase with Martin's Trilling True Value regarding the closing date. Chad, I assume that's yours. Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. So this is, you've seen this document before. This is a parcel of land that the city owns around Kiel's auto repair shop just south of Trilling Hardware. Trilling is hoping in the future to build a new storage shed to bring a lot of the stuff that's stored in their parking lot under a roof adjacent to their property. So as the amendment or the original offer to purchase required, the city worked with Sheboygan County and their Brownfields program to assess the extent of contamination on this property, given that it is next to an old filling station. And after the phase one and phase two were completed, there was some additional requirements that the DNR has asked for, StanTek who is the county's consultant to do some further groundwater testing. So this document would extend the offer to purchase through the end of July. StanTek has informed us that they believe they can get case closure on this property by June. So we're looking for an approval to extend this to July, which would give us about a month to put together a closing and hopefully see the project move forward sometime in the fall of this year. Wonderful. Any questions? Is the binding, go ahead, Mark. Is the binding second state on this one that we're gonna make it for the council meeting in enough time? It says February 1st. The council meets on February 1st. The council meets on February 1st. Sorry. I spoke with Attorney Zinkel from Rody Dales who represents them. And the idea here was, for some reason we went past the date, it's really our ability to get out of the deal, not so much that they want this deal to go through. And in order to make this go through as quickly as possible, that's why we directly refer to it. You know, we'll have them, well, the council does meet on the 1st and I think Chad is already aware that he's gonna be getting the signatures that night and probably forwarding them over to them. They may not actually receive it to the 2nd, but we're good. We've discussed all those possibilities already. Thank you. I have a question for Chad. Chad, is there any indication that any environmental problems on that property might be coming from leaching from that gas station on the corner? That's the suspecting, but it's hard to say that for sure because, yeah. So that's the thought and the DNR has been more than willing to work with us. They did upgrade some tanks and do some stuff at that location, but given that there is a filling station right next door, I'm thinking that's probably where it's come from, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be, unless the soil, the sample that they do, the groundwater sampling in the next month really shows different results. It's just, the DNR is just looking for a little bit additional documentation and it sounds like they were supportive of moving forward with a case closure. We should also note that that property was the site of the Casket Company, the Sheboygan Casket Company and which was foreclosed upon for property taxes by Sheboygan County. So there was a fair amount of contamination just from the preparation of caskets. So, so there's a blame all around and good to know that it's moving forward. Jim, did you have one? I was just going to mention it's too bad that we couldn't get this done for Tina Wick before she closed her zipper shop in December. Well, we sure tried. We did try for Tina, but... We did. You have no idea. So with that in mind, any other questions, comments? If not, could I have a motion to authorize the execution of the amendment to offer to purchase? Some of them. Second. All right, we have a motion and second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. That does it for us. Our next regular meeting is February 8th. Will we all be here? Where else would we be? I guess is another question. I'll be waiting for my second COVID shot. I'm getting my first one tomorrow. Oh, good for you. So, very good. We will see you all on February 8th. Could we have a motion to adjourn? We have a second. Second. Second. Third, I guess. If there's no further discussion, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Chair votes aye. We are adjourned. Thank you all. The second can jump in if she gets here. Roll call. Boran is here. Marcus Saviglio. Present. Roberta Paneski. Trey Mitchell. We have a quorum. For those in the, for those at City Hall, if you want to stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Will do. I pledge allegiance. Todd, do you want to lead the pledge? Yes. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Yes. Thank you, Todd. Could you tell the rest of the committee who else is in the council chambers, please? I'll have Scott send it here. We just started. Jim. Yes. Mary Lynn just called me while we were pledging. She can't find the link, so I'll have Scott send the link to Mary Lynn. And then, so, but I would just continue in the meantime. All right. Could you tell us who's in the council chambers? Yes, I will. Tara Dewey, Vicki Schneider, myself, Ann Cary, Aaron's, and Scott, of course. And it looks like we have quite a few guests tonight, so we'll introduce ourselves. I am Alderman Jim Borne of the 10th District, and I'm vice chairman of the Finance and Personnel Committee. I am Roberta Falecki-Paneski, Alderman in District Two. I am Marcus Savalio, Alderman District, Alder, Person District Five, excuse me. I'm Trey Mitchell, Alder, Person District Nine. Thank you. Let's move on to item number 2.1 on the agenda, which is approval of the minutes from the December 28, 2020 meeting. I'll entertain a motion. Move to approve. Second. Second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Vice Chair votes aye. I see that Mary Lynn has arrived. Mary Lynn, we're down to number 3.1 if you'd like to take over. I think it's been abducted by aliens, and I really apologize. So, all right. So, 3.1, who would like to take that? Take two, the first piece tonight, which is just simply that when you make the motion, there will need to be an amendment, a motion to amend. So, after, this really went to council probably too early. It went before it had been completely negotiated with the other parties involved. And so there is one change in here that was requested by Coler Credit Union that everybody's agreed to. And it has to do with the whole harmless indemnification clause. But once we get to that, I will provide you the language for the amendment before you make the final motion. All right, so we are looking for a motion to authorize the mayor and city clerk to exit the agreement between the city, Lakeland University and Coler Credit Union for the Memorial Day Parade. Do we have such a motion? So moved. And a second? Second, borne. All right. And then check what are you looking for in terms of an amendment? So the amendment would be to amend the agreement so as to replace section 4H in the original agreement, the attached agreement to provide that the whole harmless indemnification paragraph would read as follows. To the extent permitted by law, the launch shall hold harmless, defend, and or indemnify KCU and the city from any and all claims, actions, suits, charges, awards, fines, labor disputes, charges or costs of any kind or character, including attorney's fees and court costs that arise or may arise out of launch's performance or non-performance of any term, obligation, service or condition as set forth in this agreement. All right. Chuck, can we do this by an agreement by the maker of the motion to so amend the original motion? Or do you want a separate motion to amend? Probably cleaner to have that separate motion to amend, but since I read it, they can just say so moved. So do we have a motion to amend the agreement as read? I move to amend the agreement as read. Second, borne. All right. So we're gonna vote on the amendment. Are there any questions or concerns? I have a question. I'm a little bit confused because the language always states Lakeland University and there is a signatory that seems to be affiliated with another entity in there and I don't have the document in front of me, I'm sorry, but is it really Lakeland or is it Kim Leibman and Kim Leibman's business? Actually, that was asked to be amended as well. When I sent that back to the mayor, this is a Lakeland University venture and launch is the student run business venture owned by Lakeland University. I work for Lakeland University and I mentor the businesses. So this is indeed a Lakeland University agreement. And the document, yeah, that's all been updated. That was all updated one before. You may be confused by the fact that as you read the agreement Lakeland University is referred to as launch. It's launch at Lakeland University is the parking. All right. So by virtue of the motion to approve and then the motion to amend, Chuck, in your opinion, is that pretty crystal clear? Do we have any issues about who the parties are or what the responsibilities are? No issues with who the parties are and the responsibilities. The main change was just color credit union and wanted some different language on the whole harmless and the state's position is there's no change. It's just written differently. Okay. Bird, are you satisfied with the answer? Yes, I am. Thank you. Okay. So let us vote on the amendment to provide the indemnification agreement unless there are any other questions or concerns? I had a, this is Alderman Boren, madam chair. I just wanted to ask Kim Leibam a couple of questions about her launch group. What they've been. Jim, let's vote on the amendment. All right. And then we can go to the body of the motion itself. All right, fine. So any other questions or concerns regarding the amendment? Jerry, none all in favor state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. The amendment passes and the agreement as amended is before us. So go ahead, Jim. Thank you, madam chair. Kim, I was wondering if you could tell me a little bit more about the launch group. How many students are involved in it? Is this going to be their first project in the community? What other projects are they? Are you having thinking of having them be involved in? And also, is there any kind of a coordination with the COLA credit union as far as past practices and running the parade that would be helpful? Thank you. Good question. Thank you. And I appreciate you asking them. Let me address the first question, which is launch and its infrastructure. Launch began on May 10th of 2020. So it's a relatively new endeavor. However, in the short months that we have been operational, we have eight student leaders who are operating five different businesses right now. We actually are profitable. So believe it or not, we were able to start some businesses. We didn't have any startup costs or any expenses to them. So we started conservatively and that's paying dividends. As far as what we are doing within the community, we actually have just been approved to launch an independent campus shop, which we will be operating on campus from an event standpoint. We are contracted to run the Memorial Day Parade, which we're talking about here. We will be running the Gus Makers, the boys and the girls clubs is no longer engaging in that activity. So what's not going to be running that with the Gus Makers organization. We are running the Blasters Golf Tournament this summer and we are also running a concession stand at Road America. So that's the event side of the business that really took off kind of quickly. We also are managing a rental property that the university owns and we are fingers crossed, going to be closing on a business that we are actually purchasing on the 30th of January that we have been negotiating for several months. So we actually are looking to conclude our event side of the business with over a $100,000 profit by the end of the summer. And I think anybody who knows anything about new businesses, I think that's a good feat for a year to actually end the year with the profit. From the other side of your question, asking in how we've been cooperating with Kola Credit Union, Kola Credit Union and Laura are very easy to work with. They have shared all of their documentation with us. We have everything that had been created both by Laura as well as the person who had run the Memorial Day Parade for years past. And we have reorganized that and assigned our timeline and work to it. And the woman who is going to be leading the parade, her name is Allie Wilson. She is an absolutely outstanding senior. She is studying organizational development and leadership. She's interested in pursuing a career in athletic management from a operational side of the house. So I have complete faith in her. Now the students do not operate by themselves. So I mentor or you might wanna say, I control everything that they're doing but because they're students, they don't know how to run businesses and they need that partnership. And that's my responsibility. Thank you. Any other questions? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, please state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Well, just Laura and Kim and just thank you so much for all of your assistance with this really important parade. And hopefully in May we'll all be able to stand, you know, close together on the sidewalks with our winter jackets on and enjoy the parade. So, but really thank you so much. And Kim, congratulations on your amazing program. That's really, that's really true. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for your support. We're really looking forward to making sure we're proud. Yeah, you will. Now, Mike, let me just look. Well, by Jinkies, that's the end of our meeting. We are next meeting on January 25th. Do we have any quorum issues for that? It's a great thing about nobody going anywhere. Very good. Can we have a motion to adjourn? To adjourn. Second. All right. We have a motion and second. All in favor, please signify by stating aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. We are adjourned. Thank you all so much. Again, my apologies.