 Hi, this is your host Plubhatiya. Welcome to the 2023 Prediction Series. We have with us today, once again, Robert Schull, co-founder and CEO of Reckon Rob. It's great to have you back on the show. It's a pleasure to be back. It's hard to believe it's been a year. Before I ask you to grab your crystal ball and share your predictions with our audience, just quickly remind us about Reckon. What do you folks do? Reckon is an infrastructure as code software platform. So we help companies build end-to-end automation and workflows for any type of infrastructure across every type of system that they have to integrate. So literally helping them build the platforms that run their business. Now it's time for you to pick your crystal ball. I don't know it's virtual bare metal or a software driven crystal ball. Pick your crystal ball and tell us what predictions you have for 2023. You know, no matter what type of crystal ball you have, it always comes back to people in process making the crystal ball work. It's your spiritual energy of it. And I think that that's actually a lot of what we're seeing for the industry in 2023. Our predictions are that platform teams and platform engineering, which is this coalescing around a lot of the challenges of cloud native, but also where DevOps has been heading in site reliability engineering, that we're really seeing enterprises sort of turn over this narrative of developer enablement and figure out that they have to do real work behind the scenes to make it happen. So we think platform engineering and the topics and discussions around platform engineering and the tooling that supports it like what Reckon does are really going to have a very good year in 2023. Aided by the idea that economic challenges mean that people need cost and governance and controls and better use of the people they have. So a lot of indicators driving towards platform engineering being a major topic in 2023. There's a couple of other things that we're tracking that I think are also interesting here. One of them is actually on the hardware and infrastructure side. So for people who care about that, there is a software interconnect layer that is getting a lot of attention where we've been taking systems, taking next generation PCI bus and actually connecting systems together in a really converged way. And while that's a bit of a stretch at the moment, some of the work that we're seeing in that technology space is really exciting. So really some fascinating things coming out of the hardware side around being able to have much more distributed interconnected systems and then also of course ARM processors are making a tremendous amount of progress from that perspective. And I think that those are things that while people who are dealing with a lot of cloud don't think about how much this can impact the industry, it really does change the industry. The other thing that we're tracking here is the big vendors keep grinding through what they're doing. We're watching the VMware Broadcom acquisition, which we don't expect to have a lot of drama for people, but we're also seeing the big cloud providers bumping into each other more and more. And I think what we're looking at seeing is more direct competition between the cloud providers and then strangely enough, that might also mean more collaboration between the cloud providers and more interconnect and more stories around those items. But for the most part, we're expecting steady sailing at the cloud level. Thanks for sharing those predictions. If I ask you what is going to be the focus for Racken in 2023? Yeah, our course is very simple. We are diving in on the platform engineering side. Racken has been building platform engineering tools for years now and it's wonderful to have the industry coming around and saying, hey, we really do need help interconnecting systems and building consistent infrastructure, doing dev enablement, dev process enablement that also respects the operators and the infrastructure teams. So from our perspective, this is really an awakening of the industry to the types of problems that we've been solving all along. And we're very excited about having those discussions, really helping people see how to connect all the dots as they build these platform engineering systems and really take on the challenge of creating collaboration because ultimately a lot of the platform engineering pieces are about collaboration and so if you and I have talked about collaboration quite a bit and infrastructure is code and how those things work. But finally getting real collaboration in the enterprise across these teams and helping them be more efficient and productive, that's going to be really exciting to be a part of for next year. Excellent, thank you. Talk a bit about what are the challenges that you see will be there in 2023 not only for Racken to solve but for industry in general. One of the things that we see with the assumption of additional economic headwinds so we definitely do see companies pulling back on hiring or changing tact, canceling projects, sort of focusing on delivering the work they've got. The challenge of having people with the right skills, enough time, doing some really hard projects and work is going to continue to be a challenge across the industry. So while we have a lot of people in the industry, some of the skills that we need to do the type of platform engineering, high-scale automation, distributed control work, those are still very hard skills to get and find and retain in the industry. And so we continue to see that as being one of the things that people really struggle with. Because even if you can start a project and get executive buy-in to do the type of work that helps consolidate this, you also have to retain the talent to make it happen. And in a shifting market, that can be very hard to do. Rob, once again, thank you so much for taking time out today and share these predictions with us. And as usual, I would look forward to talk to you again. And of course, I didn't say it in the beginning, but we will be holding a scorecard next year to see how many of these predictions turn out to be true. So no pressure, but see you soon again. Thank you. I will stand by every word of it. Thanks, Swap. I'm looking forward to reviewing it next year.