 Hello wiki-triers. We're really happy to see you here. I see we've got a Have a nice little crowd joining us out there. I have Rob pay thee with me today and Rob is is here from California. Is that right Rob? Hi, and A1 it couldn't make it today. So it's just gonna be Rob and I and Rob's gonna talk to us today about AGC Automatic jet-com cleaner. Did I get that right? Yeah, and Sorcerer, which is a nice extension that I think many of us have learned how to Love very much for its many functions. So Rob, would you like to say a little bit about yourself and? Yeah, did you on wiki tree? So, yeah, I've been a professional program since 1981 or so and I retired a couple of years ago and got into using wiki tree and Wasn't really planning to do any programming, but I guess things Maybe want to make things more Efficient my programmer mind doesn't like doing things for petably that a computer could be doing for me. So understandable Programming for wiki tree That's great. Well, and we're glad that you made that decision because you've given us some really nice tools to use So all right, go ahead So I was gonna say go ahead and share my screen Yeah, let's go ahead and pop in there and I think you said you were gonna cover AGC first. Yeah, so Yeah, so AGC is the first one I wrote so I thought I'd talk about that first I started on this because this is the free space page that describes it. I I When I first started on wiki tree I wanted to import my get com from ancestry because that's where I've been working for 10 years or so and And so this was originally called wiki tree ancestry get com cleanup But since then it's brought them to support more things But I can give you a quick demo. So this is my get com from my ancestry tree and this is a person person's page like Richard brain who's a relative and I've imported some of these but these ones down here his children haven't been imported yet So how we can pick one this one has a birth and a death date. So maybe try that one So I click the add button Some of you are probably very familiar with this you've imported get coms and some have probably never seen it and It brings you into the add the regular ad page for that you would get if you just manually added a person on wiki tree and I've already gone through and checked these are not duplicates So it feels nice long list there Yeah, yeah, well it there aren't very many brains, but it includes rounds and Brian's Um So it this bit here is what get compare is generated the notes and the sources So we just go ahead and say add And this is what is created by get compare which Is not What I really want in a profile. It's not very friendly looking is yeah So I won't go through all the details of what is I don't like about it, but if you go back to the AGC page, there's this section on What problems does the extension address and that goes into detail about all the things that I I Would like to change about what can be reproduces So So what we can do so it's over just Briefly like it has everything's on one paragraph But it has the birth and the death and it has the residents, but the residents is in a random order like 1939 1911 And then the source the other big thing that's time-consuming to fix is that the sources are all separated out, right? Right a citation part and a source bar, which isn't really recommended by these days to do things It's a little harder to read. Yeah, so I Did start when I first started doing this. I was thinking okay What do I need to change so I started making a checklist I would do manually of like well I'll put lines in line breaks in and I'll you know put the birth and all the residences in Onological order and then the death and there's really no need for a name here with various sources Because that's the every and this is really all based off how this looks in the answers tree. Mm-hmm like if you looked at Sorry, this is this is what this person looks like in answers tree And really the gate commas just gone through and extracted all this all these sources and Generated it like this. But anyway, so show what adc does If you go into edit on here Um, you can see this button here And that only shows up if it if it recognizes an That's right. Correct. Yeah, like when you go into edit mode It will scan the the text and see if it looks like a get on like it'll look for things like Name in bold or birth in bold and a few other things to make it To decide if it looks like a get con. Okay So this button's here If you press this button, you can see it makes a change And we can go down press preview So what it's done is it's Changed or got rid of all those hot headings like for born died residents and things and turned it into a chronological narrative and um This and this is the idea is it saves you a lot of time by sorting everything out and then this is starting point for you to write your Your biography for the first great great. Yeah, I love that Yeah, and you can see the sources are also now or just together Um, there's a lot of options in the if you look Here you can see that there's uh Like three different sources for the birth um And Like the which is one two and three. So the census is quoted and the 1939 register um, if you So those are named references because choose also used down here If we go up here on the right to this puzzle piece You can see wikichie adc here And there's this sub menu has an options That brings up the options page for agc And there's a ton of different options like the spelling That really only affects one thing whether you's baptism baptism is spelled with a Baptized the spell with an s or a z But then you know, you can choose whether you want to put the age on the narrative events And then what I was just talking about with the references and sourcing you can There's a lot of choices here about when to use named references You can say okay never use named references. Just use the source once and that'll be on the one that it most belongs with Or you can say keep all the name references that are Were there in the ancestry Uh import Okay, so that would keep the original Ref name then I think it really does rename them but uh But it It keeps the same number of Named references still assigns them to the same locations. Yeah, okay Uh, and then the other thing it does is it all put in an issues to be checked section If if it finds any issues and these are just things that you should check before before you carry on and uh Then then remove this section. So in this case What the get-com created her with a current last name of uh brain Even though it knows she was married So this corrects that by changing the current last name to the last name of the last husband it knows about And it picked the married name up from her Biography not from the connection. Correct. Uh, that's correct. Yeah, it's spotted that there was a marriage Another thing to mention is this button once you pressed it This is a horrible program or art that I've never fixed but this is now means undo what you did Okay, so you can click this and it puts it back to what it was So if you if you have if you have any questions about, you know, what oh, why is it saying that or why did it Did it lose any data? You can go back For example, you can do preview. This is what it used to look like Double check and then go forward again by pressing it again And do preview so so just this is quicker than going out. Yeah edit mode and back in Okay, I did not know that I've learned something now today My day And then the other thing is like when you're first using it Especially and you're trying to work out what are the options you can all the options do you can like do undo Go and edit the options do redo and it'll do it with those options You can undo change the options again redo just uh until you've got landed on what the How you want the options to be fantastic very thoughtful Uh, so yeah, I'm gonna go through and just like remove that seems perfectly fine So I'll remove that whole research notes section And I'm gonna interject a little bit here because I know in that research notes section you often will Will add in I mean, I've seen a lot of things pop up in there that might help you do a mistake in the Especially with all the format ones, which I'll mention next, but uh Uh, so let's finish with this one, which is what I'm going from a agc So one one thing people something get confused about is they think the agc Is working off the getcom itself But it's not all all it's doing is working off the text that was put in here by get compare Okay, and also and also what's in these fields. It doesn't know anything about the actual getcom And it ultimately puts in a change explanation for you You don't you're welcome to edit that but Uh, so I'm gonna save that one And so that's doing a brand new import But there's also a lot of cases where you come across a Getcom that was imported some time ago And this is a different format. You can see it's not all online and it has It actually puts the name with the equals equals equals heading rather than bold um When I started on this, I thought there was just like an old format getcom and the new format But as I as time has gone on I discovered that the format generated by get compare has changed many many times It was introduced Or since the first getcom import started So it handles some better than others but um Example with this one you can put it here Go in press the button Do a preview And it so much better Got rid of all those headings and made it made it chronologically ordered. Yeah, so this is a case where there's more issues. Okay. Yeah There was a burial but it didn't have a date so It actually combined them together with that. There was in the original. There was a death fact and a burial fact but they had the same location and uh The railroad didn't have a date. So it just changes it to one line saying he died on this date Here and was buried here Uh, so and sometimes there's more than one death fact So the compare shows you the two different ones. They apparently there's one on the 15th and one on the 13th So you can go back and you know, you could do an undo and have a look at how it was originally See what makes sense Uh, here's just another example. This is another old getcom and this is one that has lots of what we call getcom junk Like these feet that tags reference user ID, which really no don't belong on what he tree So this one Come in and I do a Clean and you can do a preview You see it's got rid of all the getcom junk and the Uh, simplified it down. Uh, there's an option in uh, whether you want to keep this or not There's a bit of a difference opinion like the england project when they clean up getcoms They remove this because they use That's a way of finding getcoms that haven't been cleaned in Other projects prefer to keep it so that Related, you know, if there are related profiles that they find it useful to know what getcom this one came from There was a time many years ago when uh, when a jedcom was imported It sometimes it would get blown apart and the Relationships would not stay the way they were meant to so that that leaving that in there for those types of jedcoms helps to Identify them and put everybody back together again Okay And then last thing on agc. So this is another example of a getcom um So this is an example where it gets an error. So I click on this and it brings up an error message here saying it didn't change the profile because the format wasn't What it expected and it looks like it's been edited um It's a tricky thing like I I can be fairly loose and Eat try and interpret that even if it's not the format I expect but then there's always a risk that it could lose data so I tried to be in the kind of middle ground and so Sometimes this is a format that It gets an error like this just because there's so many different formats that were created by Get compare that I just don't handle that one But in this case if you look you can see that it was imported But then it was edited just recently and It was edited to move the getcom junk But also the person edited it removed this birth line And they removed one colon here. So it's no longer a format that get compare generated. So So you you have a choice here. You could either like just put these These lines back in not not junk for these colons and things and then it would handle it and clean it up Or you could just say, okay, it's been manually edited off. I want you they do see So, yeah, I suppose you could do a restore on that to put it back to the original gedcom format Yeah, and go from there, but you know, it's depends Yeah, for me, it would depend on how much was there if it looks simple enough. I just forge ahead One that reminds me one wish list I would have for wiki trees It would be nice if you could just cut and paste this bit on the left Yes, and copy it and paste but you can't and it copies the clothes on that side Yeah, it's a little little difficult Okay, well, uh, that's That's agc. I don't know if you want to take any questions on agc before we move on to Let's see. Roz was saying that uh, some people Are okay with the gedcom name just remaining in the changes log But when you do a search with wiki tree plus to try and find Profiles within a gedcom. That's not going to show up. So that's a good point Roz. Thank you. Um, I think everybody else was just pretty uh Captivated by what you were showing them this some people that haven't seen this yet. So I imagine you're going to get a lot more users now Yeah, well, uh, so yeah, I knew if people have questions about how to install it and things Just search for wiki tree agc And that's a free space page. Correct. Yeah. Yeah, you could just search for that and google that Okay, find this page And it tells you how to install it and so on So Does that that is an extension and so that little button's not going to show up in your edit area unless you have the extension installed on chrome, correct? That is correct. Yeah, I didn't mention that so it works. Uh It's how to install section it works on Most browsers like firefox is a separate store and then a lot of browsers like edge and chrome Use the chrome web store Big exception is safari and ios which I am Working on for saucer and if I get that working on eventually get it working for agc on safari It's just apple make it a lot harder to make extensions Yes, I understand I love apple. I love their products, but they do make it their own their own version of the world Yeah, yeah, they like to do things the wrong way. Yeah Okay, so it's a wiki's use saucer that's similar in that it doesn't work on safari yet Uh, there is actually a beta version that I created for safari So if people wanted to try out the contact me, but it's it's getting a bit out of date because I haven't updated it I'm planning to get back to it Okay, so if if uh anybody would like to be a beta tester, they should get a hold of you then Yeah, yeah, okay, terrific Um I'm sorry. Go ahead. I we have a question here. It's not related to what you're doing. Unfortunately If someone in the audience would like to get a hold of linda when we're done here and help her With the data doctor information. She sees a suggestion in yellow. How does she bring it up? So if somebody wants to get a hold of her and help her out with that that'd be great. Okay So wiki's use source is a bit different. It's it's an extension again, but whereas agc is all about helping you with get comms Uh, wiki's use source has got more general use. You know, I think it's useful to anyone using wiki tree And it's It does three things Uh, it helps you search from either the wiki tree profile page to other sites Which is similar to root search, but I got a little frustrated with root search With the way it's a separate page and you have to log in and and that stuff um and And then when you get to a record it lets you build a citation, which is the main thing I built it Super handy. Yeah But then also I found that I was doing a lot of uh, a lot of the time I'd like find something on ancestry because I subscribed to ancestry and find my past But then I'd want to find the a free citation. So I'd be trying to find the same thing on family search And the family search search can be pretty frustrating. So What this extension does it also will let you search from one site to another site and try and Make that as easy as possible fantastic so Yeah, so to demo it I got this one I created yesterday This is actually a sister of the person we imported from get go and um So she came in from my get-com import with just two sources uh, the seven 1871 census and 1881 census. This is in England so wiki tree saucer is Is a bit different. It's not a button on the page. It's up on the right. So where I'm pointing now there's this one in square brackets So that's the icon for wiki tree saucer And if you click on it, it brings up a menu so There's five different sites currently that you can search and um So for this particular one, we could say well, we don't actually have the birth We just have a birthday from the census. So let's see if we can actually find the birth Uh, we know her mother's main name and things so Let's trace it. So for england records at least on the england project We the kind of gold standard is the official gRO indexes So what this has done is it's opened a new tab taken us to the gRO page, you know filled out the the fields um And including the mother's maiden name, which should help find this one though smith's a pretty common name So, um, there are actually two There's one in tamworth and one in Pontypool, which is in wales, but we know That this person if we go back here, she was born in borax show, which is where tamworth is So we know it's actually this one. So what we can do is select that one It will actually default to the first one, but If you wanted the other one, you'd have to select it. Okay. And then now so The menu this menu is actually different depending on what page you're on and they all are out searches But now we can build a citation And there's actually three choices You can build an inline citation If you which is kind of the preferred thing these days on wicket tree It's supposed to source citations, but some people still prefer source ones Which is where you put them below the sources line Or you can third you can build a narrative with an inline citation Um, so That's the one with the most details. So I'll do that one now And it says it's saved it to the clipboard Let's go back I was going to edit mode So I could have just I could create an inline citation and just stick it on the end of this line here Which is probably what I would normally do but you could also In this case, I've done a narrative so This line here is the narrative It just saves you typing in if you just created an inline citation and you hadn't got anything for this event yet You I found myself all this time type putting in inline citation and then typing Oh, she was born on this day in this place. And so I added this option to just Put something in you I mean you it's just a starting point you can edit. Yeah, whatever you want And then it's got an inline citation There's a ton of options like Let's look in preview mode just to show you what it looks like, you know when you're viewing the citation So it's actually put the birth registration here because I pasted it and after the citation one The census one, sorry So what it looks like is it puts a Kind of meaningful title. That's an option it'll put Each website it has different kind of rules. This is kind of based on the England projects template for GRO citations um And it actually puts a link to the The registration districts in England can be a bit confusing people who don't know England well So it puts in the link and if I open this link here for the registration district in a different tab You can see what it describes What every what where this time was in Staffordshire and It was abolished in 1939 and all different times Now, but that's uh optional And it has I'm still getting all the kinks out of it. I hopefully most of them are fixed now, but When it generates this link it has to kind of make a bit of a guess This is what okay page is called and I think I've fixed most of the special cases, but if you spot one that Doesn't resolve let me know Okay, so that's adding a birth registration with a narrative um The I just try adding a second. So she We have the 71 and 81 census for her So we could try and find the 91 census. So You can see this these little arrows on the right. So we could look on family search and just say find any records for Marianne Or we could click here and say search for specific collection And there are certain collections that the kiki source that knows about it knows about the england and us and canada census for example so We can say it specifically search for the 91 census and then it will go to family search And it will search only for records in you can see it's but here collection England says 91. So it's restricting the search to that There's a lot of choices with this that like currently I don't pull in the father and the mother even though I could have done which would have cut down sure this quite a bit And that doesn't actually find the census we're looking for I could manually enter the father and the mother So Another way of doing it is I could Go search family search and search for specific parameters and say I'm looking for a census And then you can decide whether to include the father or the mother. So now we're going to include the father and mother very nice um Still doesn't find the Doubt this I I know which one's the right one because I've already clicked on it Sure from another thing is it but you can see that family search is very annoying for searching. So That that can be yeah That does actually find the right census okay, um But what I if you subscribe to ancestry often what's easiest is to like find it on answers to you first because they're Like if I do search on ancestry for the 1891 census um The correct one is the first match. There's it's just a lot smarter. So yeah um but so So if you look at that record on ancestry, maybe you're getting ready to do this I'm sorry. It will you can also search for it on family search, correct? Yeah, so and that works if I'm getting ahead of you just we just tell me to be quiet So it would be nice if family search allowed you to search by the peace number and folio number because they Get you and they actually If I wanted to find this record on find my past Like there's this special feature in the extension. So it's the same collection of the same record on find my past And because find my past allows the peace number and the folio number It actually just gets one hit Which is the right one Okay But if you are from ancestry and you were trying to find the family search one you can do the same thing Family search find the same collection the same record and I'm still tuning this But it it doesn't let you search by folio number and then it it has some peculiarities Like it it doesn't find a match and There's various reasons why like you can Eventually you can like remove various things and search and eventually get it Yeah, so it just have to tweak. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, and I believe they've been redoing their search engine and their I'm not sure if they're redoing their database structure or not, but that doesn't make things easier for you Yeah So so anyway at this point we have the same census record on in four different places Our three different places family search ancestry and find my past And we can choose which one to site um And they all have their pros and cons first if you cite the family search one Then you can see the transcription for free But there's no image This is a interesting feature family search has got very confused about whether it has images or not Um, this one you can see their citation actually says there's images on find my past You can click on this and it says you there might be something on a partner site somewhere Which is weird because it actually knows that they say on family search and on find my past So I actually found a way of digging out the link on find my past that they have on family search But they refuse to show you so you can actually click this button here And it will open it on Find my past for you. So it's just a little Little extra in the extension We have a question for you. This is available. What what browsers is this available for? It's the same as a dc currently in the it's um Everything except safari pretty much. Um The chrome and all the chromium based browsers like edge and opera and On firefox as well Some people are using it successfully on android tablets using a chrome based browser called Kiwi So if you you can use the install the kiwi browser on an android tablet and then go to the chrome store and Install the extension and it works Okay um Okay, so I haven't shown so why don't we add an Citation from each of these sites and then we can compare them So let's say build a narrative of the citation for this 1891 census Go back to lce Oh, no, mary And i'm just gonna go you control v place that in preview So you can see a generated narrative And it tries to create some meaningful Tenant out of the information it knows but of course, this is a starting point And you can see down here. This is the citation it creates um Similarly for Ancestry we can create a citation Let's just create a Inline citation now because we've already got a narrative And it's just for comparison's sake. We're all placed in the Ancestry one And this while we're here. We'll do to find my past one as well Um, so she's a servant in this household here. Okay um Inline citation Patrol v And now if we do a preview Uh, so yeah, we have three sources um Three different 89 1891 census Okay So They all have And then these are very much, uh Things you can change so I actually, yeah, I was messing with something the other day So the reason this answers you one looks different is I've said this that you Don't create a just a meaningful a sentence so With family search you can see it's created a kind of sentence for the data right and Okay, you but there's a choice. You can either have a sentence a list or a table Okay, and for ancestry. I currently have it said to a list. So it basically just takes all the fields That were on the ancestry citation or an entry record and just puts them in as a list separated with semicolon okay, and then for Final pass. I have it set to sentence but That brings me on to options. So we haven't mentioned options yet for Sorcer So on the pop-up menu, there's an options menu Option my menu item And I've tried to make this look kind of wiki tree like And it's it has different tabs um There's a tab for like controlling how the search works So different sites one for how the citation is the one for controlling narrative And one for how household tables that I'll get to in a minute So you can see currently I have ancestry set to I use a list of semicolon separated fields, which is why I did that so there's basically a choice sentence list or table and part of the reason why I lay out these citations as I do Is I you know, I put the title the title of the collection And then a reference within that collection typically or in the original data And then links and then I have a data section at the end And that's the thing that can either be a sentence a list or a table Okay So some people like these Bold meaningful titles some don't so that's an option Yeah This one here add a meaningful name at the start of each reference There's that option there. Yeah, there's also whether you want an access date and various things about how you want it to look uh with breaks and New lines and things Um Have a deal for time. Uh, so you're great. You're great time so that's Uh, probably most of the things other than tables Uh, so basically if people just need to come in here and play around with the options and see what their preferences are Yeah, and there's a lot of different things you can do with this search from wiki tree versus the search Um Across different sites like for example Free bmd so we know this person married Well, this person did actually marry but we don't actually know she married from this So searching from her marriage And typically what I I happen to know that she was there's a civil marriage record for but not a church marriage Okay Search so the preferred kind of thing for uk Civil marriages is the free bmd site because it's free but I know that I would have probably had more luck searching on ancestry. So what I would probably do is search on ancestry for A marriage Uh, it's a subcategory say marriage and divorce I don't I know that her parents are not going to be mentioned on my civil marriage so search for that and um We'll see if it actually finds it I'm pretty sure this is the one. No, that's not the one. I don't think See it can be a little tricky to find sure civil marriage. This gets into research skills, doesn't it? Yeah so, but I find that a combination of different um In this case, I happen to know that our husband's name was I believe profit And that's I may be misremembering I guess And oh, I never do that rob. I always remember everything perfectly But in general it can be useful to like if you find a civil marriage this isn't the right one You and you found so that looks like the right one. You can then search like free bmd marriages and then Um find it there And that allows you to cite from a free repository rather than ancestry Yeah And then if you want to create a citation from free bmd, you have to click on the info button And then there's then there's a build citation um So the last thing I haven't mentioned is household tables So I think ross is going to be very happy about that. She really wanted you to build one Okay, so um There's different amounts of data available on different sites, so Oh, one thing I forgot to mention is I was talking about uh, You know each each different sort place you can cite has different pros and cons um, so the See if you cite Family search here It will put the link to find my past so you can find an image, but only if you've got a subscription to find my past Okay, whereas if you cite the ancestry one It automatically join us. It's actually sharing link which most people are probably familiar with but answers you Provides a way where you can do share on an image And then anyone can view that link or whether they have a description or not I'll I'll I'll click on this to open it in a new tab Show you what that looks like So it says, you know, like I shared this link so they they initially provided this so you could share things on facebook and twitter and things but The extension will automatically go through all that process of Sharing and generating this link and ultimately put it in the citation Fantastic. That's a great So in some ways the ancestry citation is the best because it will give you a You know, you've got all the data and you've also got a free link to the image But then yeah, the family search one is good also But if you're going to create a table You'll find that Answery actually has the least amount of information. I mean I could create a table here a household table And we could paste it in So I would typically put it here after the So you can see this is a wiki table syntax If I preview that it generates the table like this by default But you can see it's missing a lot of information that the extension has built in knowledge of What columns should be there for each site for each sense as it knows the 89 one census has all these columns But on the ancestry table view here It doesn't show you very much. I could probably extract all the information by going and visiting all of these links, but I a little wary of Upsetting ancestry by sure scraping too much data and visiting lots of sites but if you look on By my past that has a lot more information And and family search they don't have a nice view Of a table, but they do actually have They used to right So I Yeah It's interesting in that It's showing other people on these record, but Yeah, it's it's uh, it looks like it's been indexed differently. Yeah um, but It will actually create a table or nice table. Okay magically from that and um Let's place that one in So I'm noticing that that's all I may actually have the wrong link here because I noticed that these are all called read Oh, yeah, actually I'm looking at the wrong reference on that one. Okay Um, it's tiny for me. So I can't really tell So that's that does actually have more information. Sure. It turns out that's the wrong census I accidentally clicked on Well, let's go how you got confused with all those tabs that you have But so find my past is the right one and we can see he has a thing She's a servant of a general medical practitioner. Okay, who has a Probably a son. It's interest. Oh, yeah assistant No, it's my son. It's just his assistant. Okay, so let's build a household table there And place that one in and you can see that There's a lot more information In the this one than that one though There's it's important to check the image as well because I can see there's an error here The place she was born was actually called Glasgow Heath not Heath. Okay, so we can go check the image Um So Here's the part kills And here's Mary a brain You can see it does actually say Staffordshire Glasgow Heath. They just transcribed it wrong Hmm So I can go in and edit that and say That's why we should always go look at the image when we can Let's go Heath. Um, and then there could be other things that's worth checking Um, so like everything else there's options for how tables look um You can have if you don't like having a heading row, you can not have a heading row at all Or you can have it with no different background color. You can have it with bold These are all in the options up here This household table tab Some people actually don't like tables at all. They'd rather have a list like a Bulleted list or an indented lines so you can choose between those two If you say table then these options affect it if you choose list then this option here gives you first options And then you can choose whether there's a border Whether there's padding whether there's a caption Nice and there's like eight different options for how you show the the person in bold um The that actually changed recently in that I used to use To make this line bold here. I used to have a CSS style, but that's Kind of against the recommendations on wiki tree so now it There's a bunch of different options But if you want to make the whole line bold and you don't want it centered Then this uses just the The normal triple single quotes, right, right um, so that's Pretty much it for saucer as I mentioned fantastic. Yeah, so currently it supports five sites I have a long list of other sites that People would like it to support. Um, and also safari People would like it to support so those are the big things on my list, but There's over a thousand users now on wiki tree. So I'm getting a lot of feedback every day. Oh, that's great. Yeah I think you'll have a few more after today So currently I'm busy just like fixing all the pitches that people find or you know, pick the ancestry records that don't create nice citations um There's a Just remember the edit citation thing There you go. Um, like if you're looking at an image And you have a citation you might uh and you Want to make sure the citations are right the edit citation will bring up the citation here You can look at the image and like edit it in place. Oh, I like that. Yeah Uh, eventually I might like it would be nice to like be able to create a split screen thing Where I had a thing along the bottom with the citation in so you could scroll the page and Edit that all together Anyway, um, that's a lot Rob. You have really uh enlightened a number of us here Um, if anybody has any questions We would love to hear them. Uh, we've got Rob for a little while longer here We're not going to keep him any longer than we need to No, I'm happy to answer questions Lauren says now she's wondering if she should just redo everything she's done so far Yeah, why we can always improve one bite at a time. I always say you can't eat the whole elephant at once So one bite at a time Yeah, when I import things from my get-com I then if I'm feeling very completionist I'll go through and replace all the sources that the get-com agc created and yeah do them with quickie tree sources sources because they've got the sharing links and Right, right. But yeah, we can't do everything and make everything perfect. No We try some of us try or drive ourselves crazy trying Well, we really appreciate this Rob. You've uh, you've shared a lot of information I thought I knew all the stuff that was in there and you've shown us quite a number of things I I was not all that familiar with so that's great Um, yeah, and it's being I'm working on it all the time at the moment So I'm just trying to make this search between sites work better and things like that Do you have any other interesting apps up your sleeve that you're getting ready to produce? I think wiki tree source is going to keep me pretty full-time job for the next two years at this rate Yeah, I think I had all this other The sites that people would like to see supported. I'm sure you're getting a lot of feedback I mean there are There's definitely things I have ideas for but then like I mentioned there's some concerns about not wanting to break terms of service with sure sites now like it would You know rather than using wiki tree adc you could just go to your Your family tree on adc on ancestry and go to a profile and say Create a wiki tree profile for that and it could use all the same code that wiki tree source is doing to create all the citations and narrative But you know that would mean opening up a bunch of a Answer a few pages one after the other which might fall foul of their Yeah, they might not look fondly on that yeah, so Yeah, so I mostly just focused on First getting it working on safari, which then should mean I can get it working on the ipad as well Oh fantastic. Yeah, I know there's we have a lot of people that use their mobile devices to work on wiki tree I'm always surprised to hear that because I personally Don't feel very comfortable with that, but I'm glad that people are able to do it. Yeah so Well, if we have no more questions, I think we're going to wrap things up I really appreciate you being here and sharing all of this um, and We can find you I was going to mention if anybody Wants to be able to find more information about these apps. You can find them on the help apps page Go to the find menu and it's the first link And you'll find links to these apps on that page and contact information for you, too Right, Rob Yeah, the Um, if you go to those free space pages, um, I'm the author Profile manager for them. So yeah, you can send me a private message. Sure. And we have a little community I actually have my own discord server with about 30 people who are kind of actively beta testing and Providing feedback every day on Different things. So if someone wants to be Um Super active on it. They're welcome to join that Great. That's fantastic. I'm sure you'll get a few more and the more you have the more You'll uncover and make it more perfect. So that's fantastic All right. Well, we're going to wrap things up. Thanks everybody for popping in I'm sure we'll catch some more as they watch this later. We're not always at a good time for everybody. So You'll get some more questions later, Rob Uh, thanks for being here Okay. Well, thanks for having me. Sure. We'll see you guys next