 Right, welcome back. It's time now to continue with our segment. Thanks so very much Barry Mossers and Dr. Osora for that engaging conversation. Well, we get to learn here at Y254 and of course educate you, inform you and give you relevant stories and of course the life-transforming things that are happening in and around you by them. We unfold everything and demystify everything that you need to know. Right now, let's talk about talent and business. I'm joined by a team of young people. I can call them young people. You are young as you are. Aging gracefully. Yes. Alright, let me introduce right from me. It's not other than Jeremy. Is it Nyanga or Nyaga? Nyanga. Alright, you're the CEO. Yes, I'm not the CEO, but I'm just a leader in the company. Yes, that is how I would call it. What if you said the founder? If you said the founder, so many people found it. So there's stakeholders in this. Right next to her is Valentine, not Valeria. It's Valentine Ogada. Alright, it's nice to have you people. And of course you have someone that is amazing. We'll be talking about that. So you can keep on interacting with us while on our Facebook page Y254 and of course our Twitter handle it at Y254 channel. Our SMS line is 20154 starting with Y254. Well, we had a question on Facebook which is still there. Well, keep answering us. We'll be asking of course even our guests later on at the end of this segment. But now let's venture into this. Who is now, let's talk about Jeremy Nyaga. Okay, I don't know very much about the name. You can as well call me Jeremy. Jeremy? Still the message will be out there. And you can hold on the mic a bit Juki Dogo. Okay, thank you. Jeremy is a talent mentor and a creative personality having worked in creative industry for the last 18 years. Started creative way back in high school and of course after high school got into acting and got into modeling and got into poetry and got into singing. I would just say I was interested in creative arts. So from there I developed and of course got to get a space for myself within the creative economy sector in the country and have managed to grow as an actor, as a model and then of course as a choreographer and as an event organizer. You have done all these? Yes, I've done all these in span of 18 years. 18 years is not just two days. It's quite a long. Alright. So with that of course managed also to get into the leadership space and gotten for of course some political positions just as a way of initiating a leadership process in my life and I said I got not to be led but I got to lead. What do I mean by that? In me I always believe that everyone that is behind me is a leader. So we are a group of leaders everywhere. I'm not into the space any longer of getting decisions from somewhere to follow but be part of the decision making process. Wow. You mentioned about high school. Yes. What were you doing in high school? Quite impressing. Yes, because I think now it's due to reverse the question. Yeah, in high school I was a prolific footballer and of course I played football even for the Kenyan team. That is way 2005 and some of the people we played with of course managed to go overseas like the likes of Deniso Liege. Okay. But after high school I came. So Deniso Liege was your classmate? No, not really my classmate but the time he was in school I was also in school. Our schoolmate? Not really same school. I'm trying to get your point. I know you're calculating the age. No, but of course during the same season he was in high school. He was two years ahead but he played during the same seasons. So they are after coming out of high school played for local teams and of course in the year 2006 as many footballers will know Kenya was banned twice with FIFA and of course that demoralized me and when my family approached me to say like there's no life in football go and be what we call askari, policy, I couldn't take it and so from there I channeled my energy into the creative arts. You know I'm prompted I wish I reverse the question what haven't you done in this life? You have been a politician. You have been a leader in many aspects you have been a footballer. You have done art. Yes, it has something to do with my upbringing. Yes, how I was brought up and of course now had to put myself into the space of also beating the odds of life that you cannot make it until and not unless you have a godfather. So I never believed, I only believed in one God who's the father and so he opened every way for me and everywhere that I went to knock the door he was always ahead of me opening the door for me and he still opens doors for me and he will still open doors for me that is God. That gives a new way to talk now to Valentine because Valentine is like whoa, you know Valentine what she is Valentine who is Valentine? Valentine is multi-talented I can say. I started from high school that's modeling. I sing, I dance partially teach dance and also music I work professionally so practically I use my talent slightly as a business and my job as my profession. Alright, a special statement to Fadili you say that I cannot dance now I have a trainer from now henceforth I'm venturing into it anyway Valentine apparently I happen to notice that you're not practising your career what made you not to stick to your career? Is it a talent or something that you opted to grow fast? Yes, I did because mainly what I realised that every time I get an opportunity to get a job there is something that breaks through and that in terms of music or in terms of dance mainly I can say in terms of modeling because I've practically done it for a couple of years right now and what I can say in the industry it's not that you have to know people to get there but for me I decided to make a leeway for myself so having a job and using my talent at the same time is a win-win someone was asking how did you make this leeway? How did I make this leeway? Let's just say practically I have three elder sisters so I learnt from them and I learnt from my mum so what I like the previous guest said I learnt and I do I don't wait for someone to say Valentine you need to then I just take the step myself I don't have to wait for someone to tell me to do something All right and when you talk about that there's something she has said about I don't have to wait for anyone Do you think there's a system that we have of waiting on someone instead of growing our talents? Most definitely it's a bad culture I would say whereby as I said earlier on you're trying to wait into godfatherhood that is something that's really not good for growth in terms of the current generation we are in but as the sohelia would say jitu me if you're the kind who believe in what you got in you and you believe that what you have in you it's a powerful thing then you go to send yourself out there to get it because the space when you interact with people you try to learn that the space everyone has a struggle in their life and everyone has a struggle in their life that those who use their struggles in a positive way to intimidate the space around them and so we would think probably for them it will be a way of somebody opened up a door for them but actually they use their inability to create an ability in them so that is what I say jitu me get yourself out there it doesn't have to be somebody hold your hand but of course that will not stop me to mention the aspect of mentorship being a key thing in each and everyone of us life alright which our previous guest has mentioned and I want us to look at it and now talk about the talent and entrepreneurship you being the leader of talenta and talenta prenew talent prenew these both come in much ok as a good book sale and I would always refer to it the good book being the bible definitely there are places we've been taught in the bible how various people were given talent and asked to go and put them in use actually they are not told what to go and use but they were just given and there are those who decided to put in use there are those who decided to store it why would I say talenta prenew why talenta prenew these are two words brought together two nouns brought together and one stands for business and one stands for gifting natural aptitude yes each and everyone of us has an idea inside of them the difference is how you bring them out how you put them into life so I looked at this thing that goes in the world like I'm looking for a job I want this to be done for me I went through education system and I looked at it whole something but then again when I look on the social aspect some of the most influential people in this world are not academic academically up there they are just somewhere at least they know how to read their names but now when it comes to decision making they make decisions because they got the power in their hand and they skillfully use their talents be it a football talent be it a creative art talent they used it and in any space that you see currently even in the media houses entertainment control everything so that is what pushed me to try and curve these talenta prenew and see how do I help individual who really are not good academically but still they have something in them that they can use as their talent you have mentioned something about talent and school considering the CBC now but it's coming in how is the talent and school not relating because you have said that even if you fail you still got your talent the CBC and think that is a very good thing for the government really to work hard and make sure that is implemented in totality what do I really mean by that when I was in school there is this activity that you are doing called PE that was during the morning primary education and then there was in the evenings when we were doing the games and for me those are the most exciting moments in my life in school exati moli mwesa bwa kwa nengia wakatupi kusama was lakini nengia sasa na in term skiza tukamani menuna but I will even make sure that for 5 minutes I'm in the field for 5 minutes I'm in the field so that would enable me of course to just live a happy life there is something about co-curricular activity it gets you off because you see it said when your head locks when your brain locks it locks and co-curricular activity opens your brain and that's what you'll find even in the IT sector the IT gurus where they work are not really formal places they work under trees they work under and they don't wear official they are just as simple as that they give their mind that opportunity to think widely without limitation that is what talent gives you I don't know whether valentine lefanya PE, Sistu kwa kwa kwa So, what manjia, where is that now that she is a dancer probably didn't something mess up somewhere let's talk about you are the you're the one who holds the docket of talented pranu of media and public relations well let's talk about the media and it's impact towards the talents of young people Okay, what I can say about media nowadays we have everything we have Facebook, we have Twitter, we have Instagram we have YouTube that's the guys also open YouTube channels for now You don't need someone to help you discover yourself. Record what you have. If you're singing, record it, post it on YouTube, post it on Facebook. What you have is what you give the people. If they see, they like, they like your comments, they'll comment. As in personally I can say the media, you can use the media for yourself. You don't need someone to manage your account, you don't need someone to tell you that you need to sing with this tune guess you need to sound like this. Just use the media as a platform to market yourself. You are making me all was laugh and when you are putting on your headphones then you sing, then by chance your phone goes off, then listen to yourself and be in a big shock, then you say put that on YouTube. And I am like what? Probably she needs to add on that… Everything that you do, even if you are not really, really good in terms of your vocals. But add a little bit of skill in it. Put a skill on it. If you're singing ofki, sing ofki skillfully. How do you sing ofki skillfully? You make it like you're making some comedy. And actually you want it to sing. And somebody will think you're doing some comedy. And of course you see. So you do it skillfully. Then you'll make the difference. No one will notice. But anyway, how many of us after the curriculum was changed, some of us when we were in lower primary, I did music as a subject. Currently I'm told it's no longer much a consideration to be done. Of course now the new CBC coming in, they're trying to reintroduce it. And the likes of art and craft. So at least some of us know what a crochet is. But I'm sure there are some of us behind here who have no idea what a crochet looks like. And what it stands for as far as singing and music is concerned. But again, talent is not about singing alone. There is poetry. Just speaking. Speak skillfully. There is acting. Expression. Express skillfully. Which you guys are doing right now in talent for new. Yes. So what we're doing currently is purely doing an informative activity that will enable someone to do the sets of inbuilt talents skillfully. So we'll provide with that platform and of course run for you a workshop and tells you you got something in you. We train you in that thing that you got and then you go and present it to the general public and of course to panel of judges to help you further and show you how to do it. Probably someone is watching and they're like we have had talent for new. We have heard about what you do. What is this all about? Well talent for new is about using your skills to enable yourself better your life because with the current economy you can say so many people have jobs. Yes. But you get to a point where people are being retrenched. When you're retrenched what do you have left? Stay home. Start working on getting a new job and it's a hassle. We've been through it. But why can't you use your talent as your business? That's why we have the hashtag Talantayako ni business. Right. So practically I can say use your talent for your business. Don't sit at home and say oh I don't have a job. I don't know how to make money. You can make money with your business. In town there's a guy who sings at Mamangina street. He just has a guitar, his microphone and he sings and the kids who dance on the streets and they use it as a business and someone will spot you and see that. That's why when he's talking about the talent in your workshop will work with you even if you don't get to the finals will still hold your hand and guide you through. So you don't have to just go through the procedure and if you don't get to the finals you're like next time, no next time will teach you through. Even when you're done and you don't get here this is what you can do to keep going. Right. Let me now come to you Jeremy. She mentioned something about retrenchment and now you come and jendit with now talent prenuship. We are talking about people being rich. How best can they use their talents for entrepreneurship? First of all, what is retrenchment? That is a big question. And without putting a specific definition a real say retrenchment is where somebody has control over your abilities and somebody having control over your ability dictates your next cause of action and dictating your next cause of action means they'll tell you what to do. So when you're retrenched you're told you're not going to have some power in your pocket. Right. And when you don't have power in your pocket all of us know what that means. So when you're retrenched it means somebody has control your life and if you're not well prepared for such set of activities somebody or people usually end up into these mental issues like depressions because now at some point you are liquid. At some point your liquid is cut. What people say tapimefungwa. So when the tap is closed in terms of we need money to do so many things. We need money to support our family. We need money to support our friends. We need money to support ourselves. So when this retrenchment happens in your life and you're not careful to get to know that you yourself have ability in you that you can reuse and put in action then definitely you'll find yourself not being a worthy person in the society but all of us are worthy in the society. So I would say retrenchment and talentpreneur. Talent is the only thing that gives you power in your hand to dictate what you want with your life. You've seen in so many occasions how entertainers use the moment they are on the platform to control entertainers are the only people who can even tell a president to stand and do something and a president will do. We've seen the scenario in Kenya and I can mention there's a time Rafton was at the Kasarani stadium and he was singing and Rafton made all 12 presidents who were in the stadium stand and he danced to his tune. There's another time we also saw this little man the young man Bahati stood the president in his seat in certain president's seat. Who does that if you don't have power in your hands? Bahati had power because he is multi-talented. I'm not watching for Bahati but I'll tell you what talent can do for you. Yes. Alright, guys if you by any chance happen to be retrenched from your company so much that you can get to venture into well entrepreneurship Tuesday is the day that you gonna listen to this and far much more Valentino wanna come back to you while you have been in this or that the company has been in function for over three years now? Yes. What are the things that if young people in terms of talent they need to venture into a nature? What young people need to venture in a nature? Let me say you don't need to venture into something you don't need to nurture yourself you're born with it. You can't say I'll learn how to sing okay some people actually do learn how to sing I'll learn how to dance it's just perfecting your skill. That's what I can say. So what young people need to do is just be be broad learn who to talk to learn who to go to but don't sit back and wait. That's why we have talent frenure. Talent frenure is there to nurture you talent frenure is there to teach you talent frenure is there to work with you. So you deal with kids? Primary school, high school primary school, high school, university, livers, all trends that's between the age of 10 to 26. These are some of the things that we have from your side. What is this? What is this leki or something? Oh that is leki that is the mother company that gave birth to talent frenure that was 2016 when you were launching out? This was 2016 when you were doing in preparation for the competition that happened in 2016 at Michael Joseph Center Safaricum House and at this at this one we were training we were preparing the kids for the competition this was a theory class I know this gentleman here inquired a number of kids in the picture So this was exactly what you were doing back in 2016? This is what we did one of the activities we did in 2016 How many activities did you do when you were launching out in 2016? How many activities did you do in 2016? In 2016 we measured purely on pagentry and we measured on kids pagentry from age 8 up to preteen yes from age 8 to preteen and we were measuring on modeling but acting poetry, dancing were supportive acts those were supportive acts that supported as a model example she's called Kate the previous one she was a very good poet yes Dan and she did a very good monologue that she went to present in Greece This is Little Miss Kenya Yes it's called Little Miss Kenya that's why I'm saying we use pagentry aspekt of that particular year and that was a theme This was in here? This now was here 2017 Right, what year after you launched out? Yeah the other one we launched in 2015 then we did the first activity in 2016 and then 2017 and 2018 and the one that we saw them in red that was again Greece in 2018 Alright What's the you guys are doing so much with the kids I've not seen so much people venture with kids anything related to young people or rather the kids we have seen at the age of 18 and about people who know what they ought to be doing Why venture to these in terms of kids? When you look at the space and I would say the lady at the extreme and she's called Tina currently as we're speaking yesterday they did one of the activities she's in Spain for the same Little Miss with the contestants that we had for 2018 we venturing with kids because we want to prepare them from an early age when some of us were growing up mentioning that you wanted to be a model could automatically give you a ticket for a hooping that will not even dare to have for yourself Our parents believe that you can only make it in life as a teacher as a doctor as a pilot those kind of things but saying you wanted to use your talent was a no-go zone area so for talent renewal we said not like we want the 18 and above to remain unmentad but they're also being mentad but we said let's start with these ones and then we use 18 and above as what I call ambassadors to tell these ones while I was growing up I did not get the mentorship that you're getting and these are the loopholes that made me probably delay experiencing or exploiting my talent within the space that I needed to so you got in it early use it when you can Valentine there's so much about the kids is it a passion or something Yes I can say it's a passion because kids bring out the beauty in everything when I was growing up I loved dancing and singing and partly acting but the more I grew up the more it faded because when you get to primary and high school your parents are just like wachana naizo soma because they know education is the key to success but it's not necessarily education that is the key to success example what did I study what am I doing so when you bring a kid up knowing that I can also use my talent for my business that's when they become versatile so I can use music I will teach music that is a talent that I have but I'm teaching it and using it as a business I'm noticing something from you Valentine and Jeremy you guys are two people who believe that you can venture into anything at any given particular time your joke of all trades which apparently ends up to most people saying like failure at one point may emerge I think I need to allow you to talk about that what do you think it does tend to happen it does emerge at some point but the thing is plan what you're doing always have a focus and a future don't have 10,000 things lined up and you don't know what you're driving yourself into always have a purpose because personally I can say Jeremy has taught me a lot he's walked with me for the past few months and he's taught me that once you focus your mind on something you get to achieve it but if you have like five things at the same time and you don't have a plan write it down have a checklist I have done this so what next and that's what we usually talk about entrepreneurship you got an idea you got to plan you could have a strategy then you got to do your research right then venture into it exercise and execute the plan let's talk about your workshop you guys have something trainings and all this kind of stuff what is happening about the plan one of the key things that drivers mentioned earlier on we're coming to this long holiday we start in two weeks time and we look at it how activities have been happening in our space out of school as a previous year we looked into what are some of the activities that we can do to keep our young one proactive during the long holidays and in this case when we talk about the young ones we repeat is from age eight to age 26 and of course there is also probably 30 some people are 30 who are able also to work with us but generally as long as you are youth and you are youthful at heart we good to go with you youthful at heart youthful at heart some at 50 they are still youthful at heart and of course that space so we are not limiting but of course there are procedures that need to be followed during the next couple of months will be very busy months for Thailand premier and of course we've done preparations we've set venues for trainings and we've set activities and we've set facilitators to help our kids to help our brothers to help our sisters to be in an environment that is not toxic to their mind so that by the time they go back to school they will have to struggle to get back their morals in order to concentrate on their academics so we'll run set of activities across five regions and these regions are the lake region with the center of lake region being Kisumu where the competition will happen and the lake region has counties like Migori, Homa Bay, Siaya, Bungoma, Kamega just the lake basin region then we have the rift region whereby we have Nakuru as the center of the competition but build up activities will happen in those other regions like Baringo, Narok, Eldoret and the counties surrounding Nakuru then now we have the central region with the main center being in Meru and in Meru of course we have the likes of Nyeri Muranga, all those having build up workshop training and then the competition happening in Meru we have Nairobi region Nairobi region comprise of sub regions like Kiambu, Kajiado, Machako Nairobi being the main center of the competition and then we have the final one which is the coastal region having the six counties around coastal region with Mombasa being the center all these and their dates have already been locked and of course when you look at our website and you look at our social media handles on social media you will find us on Facebook at talentpreneur ke on Twitter you will find us at talent underscorepreneur kenya and on Instagram you will find us on talent hyphenpreneur ke because of time we will have to call it a day for now but let's just give you 30 seconds for parting shirt just what I will tell everyone your talent is a worthy business venture and for talentpreneur we will make sure that we have drive and we have really assisted you to use your talent for socio-economical growth and with all other partners that we are working closely with we shall experience a good year whereby talentpreneur shall help so many kids to grow in their talent shall help so many youth growing their talent and shall help so many parents so many kids with their kids during the long vacation and I can say that we are here for you talentpreneur is going to be your new home your new family your leadership will work with you will guide you will lead you to what you need to do and where you need to be and always remember your hashtag is talentayako biznayako awesome many thanks for making it we much appreciate we will be coming back to you and well so much has been learnt I hope so for me I have learnt so much of course talentayako biznayako well Barry coming up next don't go anywhere entrepreneurship continues in just a few