 Perhaps before we wrap up we could go back to Stranger Things Season 4 and people have created some of the memes and actually the rankings of your captions. What was your reaction to that? To be honest with you I just found it quite funny because this series came out just as I was having my son and so it almost felt like I was a bit outside of the working environment and then then seeing those things and being sent all these articles and memes and my favourite meme has to be 11 pants. That one was hilarious because like of course she was panting but like it was just a funny meme I thought and the rankings I loved reading through those especially when you've created and like it's not even just the creation it's like I've worked with someone who is a phenomenal wordsmith and seeing those descriptions being highlighted for both of us was so exciting. Do you have your favourite description from that season or maybe your favourite scene? Wow I love the guitar riffs anything like the that described the guitar riffs they were they were amazing because it was such a good song anyway and the song that they used and so yeah that was one of my favourite moments.