 which kind of strike what the fuck source we'll see I think that's just awful the game that's why it's not here anymore killing people at a video game is the worst thing you could do to them I feel like I haven't played a competitive shooter in 10 million years I don't I mean we play modern warfare oh I remember that short lived thing that's still going right and it's like 10 000 gigabytes to install it it sucks right because like as you go on with with technology as a person who's been doing it for ages you're like oh man I've finally gotten like a 10 terabyte hard drive like this is the future I'm gonna be fine it's like video game is one terabyte now and you're like wait cheating one video game is that well I don't think any video game is a terabyte right now but cooler duty is is is wowing audiences with its uh what's the latest size over 300 gigabytes now no I think 213 maybe fucking hilarious is what it is it's wowing people but being big being big one game bad and uh yeah you know some people just don't have the heart in fact there probably is someone out there who couldn't actually keep playing it because they didn't have enough space right like this this must have happened that happens definitely to people on console what happened that needs to be so unreasonably huge wouldn't it be the same space take up on on console there would be no reason for it to be reduced right or would it be my ps5 is like no honestly my ps4 i don't have ps5 isn't out my ps4 has like no space you just let it slip that you have a nearly version of the ps5 everyone knows now jay is planning on becoming a ps5 review channel i'm sorry you found out this way everyone wait as in reviewing the ps5 or yeah he just continues to review the ps5 really today we'll be talking about the audio aesthetic review what 17th unboxing no no every every review every video is a full review of the ps5 every video you put it all back in the box just as you found it thank you let's see how it let's see what it's like today maybe it's changed i mean it's an important bit of work you're doing there um so yeah hello everyone because we're live now by the way guys oh we're live oh cool oh so we're gonna tell them about the drama with rags why would you say that rags gonna randomly show up be like what drama what would what have you been saying rags isn't here yet he's um he'll be here in any moment i'm sure of it and we will we will begin the usual festivities um until then festivities i suppose we'll just have to talk to chat and ourselves each other about uh the recent events the huge recent event that happened us getting into this call i thought it would be really funny to introduce this dream with like just rags can't be here i thought it'd be really funny to start this dream with like so unfortunately there's been some behind the scenes stuff going on and rags won't be appearing any fat for a while possibly not ever but uh i think it'd be funny to just drop it like he will not be appearing ever again because you just feel like oh shit it'd be like he shall be replaced by and then just like a fifth person joins it's just someone no one's ever heard of and he's like hello mind this job refuse to ever talk about it and like immediately it's super cringe he said himself a super chat saying hi john he's like hi hey look how popular i am john stop no guys when rags gets here everyone super chat hi john it'll be funny if like the whole like community took to john immediately like john's such a great guest such a fantastic improvement on the show so join the host idiot not a guest um well uh he would be officialised moments after being a guest you have to that's in the it's in the constitution you have to be a guest before you host yeah even for a minute though and that's fine okay it's like the president has to be born in the us yes you have to be a guest on e-fab to be a host on e-fab wait but you were never a guest on e-fab yeah no in the first episode we introduced ourselves as guests and then we have immediately officialised as hosts today i'll guess psych i'm actually the host john is the third best guest who's the best two guests i'm gonna guess it's fringy and just a guest um it wouldn't be mad at all um awful who's rags see people have already forgotten him down so like a like a long time ago in the deep floor of e-fab he was like this guy who said some stuff sometimes yeah hashtag bring back john because we do that like a few months later john is gone i'm like fuck john he was a shit guest rags is back we're just like what john's in the chat like hey i think i'm still gonna watch the show anyone called john in the chat we are talking about you specifically yes you john smith this is probably your least one john smith right you know who you are john listening now um it's you we're talking about john leguizamo i want to actually look in chat see if any usernames with john pop up like oh my god well most of them aren't even their names you've got really weird ones like delo the doctor some of them are stupid to go by your real name on the internet well no one would do that nobody yeah yeah that's my legal name obviously he's from the family of commanders john is a choke crushing bloodline man release the john supercut release the john cut of e-fab so yeah people are ready for that yet we uh we we did a stream last last night relative to my tisms or this morning actually about uh the boy season two finale that was fun it's like five i am i saw the the mention on desco's like yeah the episode came out early so we watched it and i was like i guess i guess we could stream talking about it jay logbo popped in she's been banned from twitter temporarily oh what did she do um i think because a fly landed on mike pence uh mark hamill put out a tweet saying that's his only black friend and then she quote tweeted that and used one of the many naughty words uh was it a naughty word she was allowed to say or what she said i think it was a naughty word she's allowed to say but not anymore you gotta be careful british should know better than not banned for that yeah that gets them in trouble then yeah we are all john john is among us i believe john john is impostor john wasn't john is acting sus john is a cook imagine this one someone out there who's played a shit ton of among us games and they actually haven't been impostor like ever i was just thinking like statistically that's probably happened yeah how annoying that would be you'd be so shit at being the impostor once you finally get it like every single game you're like okay this time for sure because the odds are like surely i can't be the human like this many times that's not how statistics work yes it is yeah well how probability work i don't see i know even yeah it's uh jay you'd be in mean it's it's like when i say i'm right because i have this authority that's a good thing that means i've done it right we know the fallacious form of appeal to authority which is like metal says i know more about this than you because i'm a scientist when we're talking about which lego fits in this place and it's just like that's you're just appealing to your authority you're not actually making an argument um is is it a fallacy when i'm like which microbe is the oogle boogle and then he's like i'm a microbiologist it's that one well that's um that's like you need more context because it's like if two people are making points and then you go well that person's a microbiologist so they're right like that is that's not an argument even though it does like swing that's what i'm going to say is that still an appeal to authority but it's like less bad oh yeah it's like um appeal appeal for uh to authority exists for a reason like if neither like if you don't know who's right then probably go with the microbiologist oh yeah that's yeah but it would still be you wouldn't say they're right you would say they're more likely to be right right yeah the thing is like you should never depend on it as an argument because then you don't have an argument if you're depending on appeal to authority and in that sense it would still be a fallacy right yeah yeah and informal fallacy but you could never need to say i'm right because i know more about this than you should just be able to say the stuff you know oh man john's here there's also there's also the other part of the appeal to authority which is using something as an authority that the other person doesn't even accept like a dictionary is where that pops up often i found this one dictionary entry for something so therefore i'm correct like when uh joseph anison used the dictionary to explain what subjective meant definitively in that same dictionary had the word object or phrase objective opinion in there as a valid thing and he was like oh no i can't use this dictionary anymore i need another dictionary i need a dictionary that confirms my biases i'll write the dictionary we all i'll write the guys this is the right one myself it's actually called diva and ask the dictionary dictionaries are full of lies dictionaries uh the well that's a funny thing because the only um the only arguments that you can make for the definitions of word words like being correct are appeal to authority or appeal appeal to uh popularity there's so much love for john in chat there's no like universal there's no like universal like rules as to what words mean it is just unfortunately your popularity yeah so like i think you're appealing to any authority like it's just a normative structure language there is authority for stuff like uh plute is pluto a planet well nasa says no that's a scientific designation not necessarily useful language though right i guess yeah yeah it's still like that is still where the language comes from right that's where like you know a lot of that is people will cite that as the meaning of the word yeah there's no there's no like definitive objective definition of a word if people are disagreeing about it then no one's like factually writes yeah we do the best we can language is just an expression of ideas to another person they try and understand what you're saying good old language which is a really good segue not really but into how shit kimiko is in the boy season two are we live yes yes yeah so it was weird is that i didn't get like any of the notifications or anything for this room so i was sitting here just sort of waiting and it just didn't nothing popped up for me or did anything i had to go try the room i don't know i don't know i i just called being a little bit shitty i'll be a little bit to me oh they can discover a little bit so oh and uh and uh Sophistic Autistic wanted me to mention that in year one of evap we had the quintin to ro part one part two in the second year of evap we had the jazen uh video and then debate part one part two and now this year of evap we've got williams part one part two and uh it mentioned that apparently we do this yearly without even realizing it oh how is that it's pretty cringe yeah i think that's completely cringe we're gonna have to avoid it in for those that the jack saint to posture as well that was also to probably ask true so maybe it's not as difficult i feel like we've done more we did the paladins first episode yeah that was part one part two so yeah maybe there's more to it than such a thing cringe wow double cringe um that's not much cringe dude so the first thing i was gonna bring up is this really is a part two right so we've recovered from the fallout of the three nuclear heart takes that struck the earth from the previous episode with a secret bonus one that was the true damage you see the three heart takes opened up earth's core and then fringy sent a bonus heart take into the center that blew up the entire thing um for those who were saying live they weren't heart takes check the comment section people don't like me over there people don't like it seriously no people aren't pleased so shut up they were heart takes oh yeah mando was a part one part two as well mm-hmm can we like what what are the other what like let's just what is what are some other heart takes well i was gonna talk about the the ones we gave because there's a bit of like oh we did it see what no i reject that it's it's topic sorry sorry we're not talking about space balls i'm so sorry just not funny oh my god haven't the e-fab audience taken enough damage jay they were so happy to see jad now look at this the heart takes everywhere i i i want i'm really curious like oh that'll be a fun thing to do is like a straw poll is like what's the least popular heart take among the audience and go through like atla the boys bojack horseman space balls all my guess is it would be atla uh second might be clone wars i it's really hard to tell because everybody is different like angry different ways i was like yeah which which group has actually got the most people in it and which one group has actually just got the angriest people in it literally like they will hop because you were wrong the next step feel you're right so it's not a heart take here we go it's all over the place the duality of chat it's wonderful um so yeah i was gonna say that the super heart take the the nuclear one was actually sonic the hedgehog is shit that that one pissed off a shit ton of people so wait what was that that shocked me that y'all care about it was it was a casual thing said by fringy while i was playing sonic heroes and uh chat got very upset and then he doubled down and it was all over from that point it was done fringy will not be reappearing on he's too controversial we can't have him say the stuff like edgy the hedgy is a is a worthless character that's gonna fuck up everything edgy the hedgy i um i don't know anything about sonic really at all so i don't actually care at all like whether or not he's shit i just always see the cut scenes and the quotes and always like oh man it does seem funny i guess there's some people out there who just really think that's so fucking cool well i'm sure there's elements to it that are actually good but i i do doubt which is my fucking right edgy the hedgy is any good i doubt it um i don't know but yeah it was funny because everyone was really mad at him but i think he was on a buggers the a buggers stream just saying like yeah i don't know anything about shadow screw you sort of thing wow wow well do you guys have any opinions on it nope uh i don't have an opinion my opinion lines up with fringy's come on look at him you've seen shadow my opinion lines first off his name is shadow listen yeah start right there his work backwards any of us and it was your play shadow shadow thing is really upset mode of transportation motorcycle all right has like weapons all right black and red color scheme okay just saying it's not breeding rival character well like i think that all we've concluded is fringy hates hog people like that's like the only thing that we can really gain because he's not really got you know all the context to really hate him properly so we don't support bigotry on the podcast fringy's out simple that wait we don't oh i mean yeah yeah we don't yeah um because if you like if you hate hog people like there's several people we can't have on the show at that point if he's there it's like storm front you just you know you can't ask for the racism's um next up was probably like i said the clone was for the next hot one lots of discussion maybe because it's a star wars style community but uh lots of conversation uh what do you have to save yourself theo you fuck up put me on the spot like that um well my explanation was never the best because like i keep saying to you people i'm not great live but like nobody's gonna nail it live that's like why yeah videos and streams are different things is the one thing i implore all of you clone wars fans who hate me in the chat to do like because pretty much everyone i've talked to on the discord or anywhere else on the internet who has watched the show and says they love it or think it's really good i have not seen it in like over a year over two years probably so i implore you to just go back and watch it with a critical eye please um so theo just said you guys don't realize how wrong you are oh no you don't oh you got some fucking push back on that one um yeah i i just saw loads of discussion that was like he's wrong he's right he's wrong he's right he's wrong yeah a lot of the things people picked me up on that i was wrong about were very much minor to my overall points though i do want to mention that as well i mean if there's anything you want to this is your opportunity if you wanted to correct any want to repent sinner so apparently talson is force bullshit so all the magic stuff used to me yeah i didn't i think that's some eu stuff because i don't think that's explained in the show i could be wrong on that as well though so who knows and uh wow i don't know man uh i'm better in a more focused environment like i said the office still stands anyone who wants to chat shit about it can jump into the discord and talk to me about the show i'm perfectly happy to just get mad at it there i was just thought you were saying i'm better and more focused so yeah i am really cool now um doddy said let theo finish his list of complaints from last time did you were you not finished i was finished in as much as i was finished as i was able to articulate in a live environment i could probably pick up more things off the cuff but it would just be like jumping back and forth all the time throughout like the entire show which would be no different from how it structures itself you just want to hate considering what you want to do yeah there's plenty i could rant about it's fucked up hate flow through you she was really bad what if i don't want to flow through me well see look at the damage you've done jay will you watch the clone wars after theo said it's bad i wasn't going to watch it anyway see you will no longer watch it when he was planning to because of theo this is the damage that he has done do i get to be a fun killer like maula now no that was my job yeah give it back seems like fun right no well depends how deep are the themes of the clone wars there aren't any seven also like it doesn't matter that you killed fun like like i told you the show is allergic to nuance allergic damn um but yeah you know not much we can do just uh just be like yeah that was the hot take people took it conversation move forward it's don't worry it's not going to be etched into a commandment that was bad because theo said so good little clown boy don't we won't werewolf go wild get what you're fucking deserve my nose uh that's more than a year old now yay happy first birthday remember no ugly topic um let me fuck you nice one i guess is bojack the uh the thing i saw about that was that people are really upset the friggin i consider rick and morty to be better than bojack and i guess it's worth mentioning that i don't think rick and morty is bad because of a community making memes about it that's retarded the show itself is pretty awesome got lots of very well made jokes and some decent character writing in there in fact quite a bit as well as some nice little life lessons mixed in with 20 minute injections of adventures um morty it's really well written the idea that it's bad because too many people shared the pickle rick meme like i just don't i don't follow i've always said on e-fab in different parts that it sucks that it seems to have been ruined because it got popular like a lot of people like you rick and morty it's just like it's good though i don't know what else to say it is good bojack's not so yes i put one over the other they compared it to uh shakespeare love beating saving private ryan which uh i don't even know what to begin with that one like as a comparison it's uh it's pretty interesting i guess harvey weinstein um didn't like bojack and so he forced me to put it below rick and morty um well it's not the worst way to be forced below harvey weinskin yeah yeah i'm pretty sure that's the story though he like he pushed for grinnith paltrow to be his new person that is starring in things and winning awards and that's how shakespeare in love beat um i watched a video on it was really interesting because saving private ryan to like the entire world was something that would beat shakespeare in love there's just no way oh yeah that's one of the that's one of the most commonly cited the oscar as their bullshit things yeah um yeah and that leads to the final of the heart taking a field of authority which which um so the boys is not as bad as bat woman um i think did we say that the worst of the boy season two is as bad as batwoman i i think it definitely gets to batwoman levels but the problem the whole thing um i don't know about that i i don't know why either it might be a tad higher the the problem is that it isn't nearly as entertaining yeah i would agree that um we like that woman doesn't frustrate us in a frustrating way we enjoy the fact that it's just terrible and it's enjoyably terrible terrible and it's wonderful to watch but the boys when it's bad it's just frustratingly bad and it's baffling and we expect more from it because it's not a cw show do you want to read out this uh this commentary on on our our take on the boys right see what you think uh yeah let's take a look um all right every now and then e-fap has a take that's just bad i'm not saying the show is flawless but to claim it's terrible even season two is just wrong it's not perfect but it's great i'll agree there are some contrivances but not story ruining the characters are all really damn solid homelander is one of the best characters on television storylines are tight and it's genuinely entertaining theos clone wars take was pretty bad as well and i happened from time to time um gotta squeeze that into the very end yeah so like uh i would argue there is a thing i fucking hate theo an insane frequency of contrivances they absolutely destroy the story and uh there are no characters i like at the end of season two they all kind of have yeah i don't like anybody yeah they can all go suck my asshole homelander and butcher both fucked that seems like a huge overstatement of homelander like i think he's good but that good i don't know dude well we went over in uh in the stream last morning slash night i was gonna make that public on miller than i was thinking we're probably gonna end up repeating a lot of what we said in that video when we make the eve out for the boy season two so there's no real reason to have like a double up that was more just like a vent yeah um sort of and we focused mostly on the last episode we'll go over the last episode again on the dedicated the boys stream which hopefully we can get through faster than mandalorian which i think we will in fact i will i will ensure it uh so um it's not gonna be a two we're gonna try and nail this in one stream yeah um but i'm afraid we're gonna try to put more work and effort into the boys efap than the writers of the boys put into the show so which i said dab you guys like to cherry pick comments you could easily counter like what do you mean we didn't even count to this comment this comment's got an opinion i'm gonna disagree with the opinion they have to make wow just picked a comment that you could easily counter that's not a comment that's easily countable it's barely even said it's just making a claim so we could only counter that with our own plan you could easily counter was easy to count it well yeah um it probably makes sense that we're not going to be getting to the meat of all of it until we get to the actual the boys stream um i'm simply highlighting this as evidence that what we've said is apparently very controversial so we're gonna have to prove it which we're totally on board with doing it's gonna be fun we did it to mandalorian that show was knocked right the fuck down by our two streams we're coming for the boys next gonna beat it up and i promise you as i said last night the mandalorian gets worse the more you look at it like i'm just finding more wrong with it and not all that much that brings it up um we'll see trying to destroy people's enjoyment correct and then not only that but i want to get paid for it too i'm double evil oh money is bad it is the worst thing ever the misery of others so there's uh there's there's a comment this the set about would be a brags is a finale stream the stuff they're complaining about aren't really issues uh the many people during the stream so we were nitpicking and it's really fascinating to me because we bring up the same problems that are like present in other things we criticize but like the boys much like mando and some other things just get this weird pass like no it's nitpicking if it's something you like so that's kind of the that that seems to be the operating definition for some people out there who still have yet to realize that we hold everything to the same standard well to give you an example as much as it bothers them um a there was a wanted criminal an ex superhero that's been like given the essentially criminalized as well but both in the middle of a street talking to a famous uh well you know quote unquote good guy superhero about another superhero being evil and he hands them a bunch of files about how they can prove she's evil if they use these and there's several people walking by them as they have this this conversation we highlighted that as just absolutely fucking stupid like everyone involved in that is so stupid they're all world famous um consistent with the rest of the episodes no of course well the but what i'm saying is we brought that up and then we had like more than two people in chappie like oof this is you've kind of nitpicking at this point it just uh it it blows my mind a little bit sometimes just like if it allows the plot to happen it is out of nitpick territory um and yeah so uh the the other thing i wanted to address because this is about the the finale we stream we did someone said use a recipe for how to make an efab pick a scene uh say i don't understand it infer something bullshit instead and have another guess saying oh yeah i don't know maybe and then sometimes someone will actually correct the actual thing that happened and then rinse and repeat well uh that's uh that's a bold claim to make without any references they had a reference they gave they gave what reference of their comment and it was about when we were talking about the psa uh scene at the beginning of the finale and um the the summary of that was i asked if the if because it's an allegory for school shooting are they implying that there's kids running around with supervillain powers that are that are hitting people in schools and then you say i don't think it's gonna be supervillains are attacking schools and then i say is that happening enough that the universe has to have a psa about this shit um and if it's happening enough like why the hell haven't we been shown it like i don't remember a single time where a school was attacked by by supervillains or whatever and that the world is acting as though supervillains are this huge problem when we really haven't seen it at all except for the telekinetic it was like there's gotta be other examples i assume or is it just happening and we're just told it is and that's just it and so um in which case it's like a really weird scene i don't think they properly earned it even though it's entirely existence is to just be satire and to be like look a teacher has a gun as a response to this now things are getting ridiculous like homelander and stormfront are building up hatred in the country through demonizing a group of people like that's the point they're making and so i was talking about how mechanically it sits upon like a world that hasn't been properly built for it and that's an example of how we don't understand the scene and we just make shit up yeah we went through three sort of different ideas we're not even being in agreement and then discussing what it might be referring to and like i we i think we gave that scene more thought than the show writers did i really think for them it was just like a one-off half-jokey parody thing yeah and and it still exists in that world i would want to caution people that that was our discussion after having seen the episode like a few minutes prior like i would just be like that's just discussion i don't know what else you want from us until we are able to make a video where we've you know combed over a scene uh that's that's what you're gonna get speculation you could go over a scene wait oh i didn't say that but yeah i someone who's not seen this show that's the only thing i can contribute here i'm sorry it's okay uh we're almost done i was just saying the the boys will get it's day in court okay that's that's the spooky thing i can say and uh more than likely gonna be next week and it'll probably be uh metal myself rags and free i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna give it yeah the charge is sucking it will plead guilty give it a good plunging plunge um i would be set today then again then right uh probably i will figure that out uh and we'll let people know so it's gonna be another weekend for the people right that that's all i had in terms of catching up stuff i don't want to talk about anything john john yeah john thanks again john yeah thanks john it's fucking great good so he's the best man was so was the john thing like um did that start while i was um not here yet oh yeah nobody will not be appearing on the podcast again yeah so we'll just behind the scenes right so don't do a placement when you're gone he came on he was pretty cool yeah all right rags so we'll just call it in the discord he was from that stream where it says it's pretty suspect how hard rags and molar are put off by nazi stuff what well i got it too yep no you got us where we are we're a secret we're nazi lovers that's us we just we just love not like the implication is we don't like that they're making fun of nazis the issue is that the people who write this show think that i'm a nazi so when they make fun they're trying to use that as a backended way of making fun of me because they have no fucking clue it's it's cartoonish in the show and again we'll be able to go into it more but um fascinating absolutely fascinating and it's funny to me as well because the ratio of of things we talked about that we're like trying to figure out if there were problems versus things we were very definitive about in terms of like structural writing issues was pretty lopsided to to the our favor i would say it was even fucking chat we're coming up with problems that we hadn't even necessarily spotted for example the the arrival of babe in the fadali we were just like wait yeah we hadn't thought about how did she know oh yeah yeah that's one of my notes and the the best we could come up with is she the best we could come up with is she super jumped may well yeah that that would be the most i i say most reasonable thing but yeah in the very first scene of hers we see her jumping from the street up to like the the side of a building running on it for a little bit then jumping down and there's a lot of cuts here so you have to imply a lot about what's happening between the scenes but um she super speed doesn't seem to be her thing but she could jump well she could jump well there you go jump yeah she's a high jumper that doesn't actually count for the issue though it's if someone flies off she won't possibly the speed of sound how does she chase them with super jumping exactly just like whoo you ain't catching her you ain't catching it reminds me of Mulan keeping up with an eagle somehow by running across a roof like i don't i don't i don't i don't see that um which runs fast which by the way i still want to highlight almost just it just it's just so strange to be uh the live count for people watching Mulan was fucking crazy you guys really hate Mulan which is fine by the way the uh i'm doing a video and i don't know thank you what what i'm doing a video on the thing that we're talking about oh yeah the movie John Carpenter it's the thing oh yeah it's good stuff man yeah do you like that heavy do you like that have you seen that movie uh the thing fuck off if you haven't seen the thing he hasn't seen it has he i can't believe you haven't seen the thing rags what do you mean wait rags you you've dealt with this before we all say yeah i haven't seen it what's the problem is the thing i haven't seen yeah but it's like yeah but the thing come on why is that more shocking the Lord of the rings yeah Lord of the Rings is the shocking word it's just like it's just like it's such a generic title like what's it about a thing okay cool i'll show you more that's the problem okay stop it stop all right i've tried to check you here keep on digging well yes um jay's gonna release a video on mulan talking about why mulan is an incredible remake of the original and the original is kind of wonky if you think about it yeah yeah yeah way overrated putting in the the witch who uh like is oppressed and that's a thing and then she becomes a bird and dies that's really important it's symbolic of um witches yeah the original was just a bunch of tuneless warbling yeah man no like cringy animated which is like pretty childish and cringe i'm glad they kind of they matured it up a bit because uh yeah and a bit cringy there disney with your child content but now feeling feeling good yeah i guess that leads us into today's couverage which is good old mr willams because we've got no hot takes today no new hot takes to lead to i'm so sorry all right oh is that a good thing now yes i hate hot takes you hater of hot takes i always burned my hand on them i thought someone could think of another hot take if you needed one do you got any hot takes uh kotor has bad gameplay that's i think you've done that before on you if that's a hot take that shouldn't be hot let's see how chat feels about that kotor has got as bad as he played kotor one and two or just one i've not played kotor two gameplay is the same as the game one the eagle suicide in the 2020 version genuinely made me burst out into uncontrollable after yeah that's because you're a child you don't you don't understand sacrifices that eagle made you don't understand bird which sacrifices anyone would be laughing and it would like ruin it for their fan you know i do have a moment of feeling bad if the director was like serious about that movie really tried and then they the whole audience laugh about that bit when it's trying to be an emotional impact you'd be like fuck i have screwed up big time well maybe when they were filming that next to the concentration camps that the communist party of china runs uh maybe all the people were looking through the fences and maybe they laughed at it so the director was like oh well they liked it so everyone else will that's like a test i'm laughing it's like that's good i don't imagine you can become like an access hollywood director uh without while like giving a shit about the sanctity of your work j everyone's clarification you think the story's good though right of kotor fucking i can't get through the fucking gameplay remember chat is gone it was about the gameplay he didn't say anything about the game as a whole they just ate like the gameplay is a brick wall to try and get through like oh there's a good story in here apparently i can't wait to find out in a million years after i've got through all these bullet sponge dogs oh i just i don't think i think real time with pause is kind of criminal i'm just gonna leave it at that what about dragon and georgians i can't see how i played it so i don't know the meaning to get to it for a long time never someone in chat is saying kotor's story is not good i could believe it with the number of like star wars universe stories that people just make excuses for um i yeah i don't know if this is a heart take but the star wars community is very forgiving of like i would say the time between the ot and the prequels and if many years after that like anything that came out star wars wise gets a lot of uh like bonus points just in general it seems because even you know stars bounty hunter the game like i like it there's loads of problems and like when i finished playing it loads people like all that game is like one of the best star wars games it's just like i i mean calm down is it just because of when it released that people feel this way i don't know because like well a lot of people said that fallen order was like insanely good like nine out of ten stuff and i'm like it's like fine i guess i never even played it i was never interested in that game my clunky wow that makes you cool i'm such a hipster mel what's your heart take go uh i i thought i was in the boys no gotta get a new one new one what you said you didn't like a carrion you didn't enjoy it oh rip him apart terrible what i did not say that liar shut up liar jay so medals heart take is that all 2d games suck that's hotia oh yeah that's an actual what yeah wait is your is he retarded it's he would correct it too he doesn't like any 2d games that's that's weird because it's such a huge swath of games it's everything from mario to advanced wars it's um it's funny because i think his stock would plummet if he said that life people would be like what the fuck so now that he knows that ever we'll find that to be an insane take it would be like no no well wait he played among us right that's 2d yeah correct so it's kind of something we'll have to see what he says but um i knew he i know he has an a vision to it um also we can worry wants to cameo because of jay's heart take no let him let him i don't know what he's gonna say i'm scared i'm sorry jay you got a cobweb on you know so oh this is good okay this is something that i this is this is me someone is is like rags colon all right first off you're not good enough for you're not good enough for my colon all right well they said rags i can tell bojack is bad because i didn't agree with the jokes in one episode i don't think that's the position so my position is that everything that i've seen of bojack has been shit the discussion that i've heard makes me never want to see it and the one episode that i have seen was so horrendously bad i didn't want to finish it i almost quit it and i never want to see any more of the show ever and for clarification so the people understand you could do that with buffy uh someone could talk about buffy in a way that makes it sound really shit they could show rags be a bad or um the robot demon episode in season one and he could be like yeah this show looks fucking terrible and i'm not going over near and i'd be like that's fair that you'd have that conclusion at that point though i would want to push you to watch it still um all of my positions are tentative anyway but like sure i guess it's possible that bojack is actually really amazing but after all that i've heard of it and i've heard a lot of stuff from listening to like fringy and moller talk about it and i've seen bits and stuff and show me things i know i i don't want to go anywhere near that show it sounds like a horrible waste of my time we can worry you're enjoying your camera hello we can worry hey i'm a lad hello lads i have just stopped working to just tell jay off and that he's wrong about kator that that's the gameplay that's the tweet and ewoks i was i was i think i was about to actually i had a heated gamer moment oh my god i was like i was typing out the script and then you said that and i like rose from my desk and like did you call jay the n word no i was having the experience feels like an ewok moment you know like did jay just say that jay what why why did you say that since i'm here and um i remember i got like i got bored of koto when like there was this huge open area full of like i can't remember like creatures they were specifically like i remember it was like dog kind of things they were like four-legged brown things right what planet is this do you remember oh the one with grass everywhere the lucia end door lucia wait you you finish the first yavin all of it warm you finish so you got off the first planet right and you became a jedi okay okay go spoilers yeah off it's like 20 years old you ruined it guys i'm very heated right now i'm trying to understand jay it might have been the planet where you become a jedi i think it's why you start like encountering um like really starting countering dark side users but they're always fucking like oh they're like like yeah they are four-legged like animal creatures right and they're just fucking everywhere and then two years to get more thing that might be hang on let me google images it dantuin that's the one that leo tried to get exploded dantuin what about dankuin that looks about right uh oh titties i'll forgive you jay well that was easy yeah yeah i win as always yeah i know i'm wrong 100 zero let's see if i can get a good picture of this the suspense no i mean i mean does it like why didn't you like these dog things like because there are like a million of them and there were bullet sponges and there was like no it was just like the same thing over and over again to kill oh yeah it's it's it's in the first it's in the jedi planet i think yeah yeah okay oh wait no is it that's one thing i do hate in games is bullet sponges and there was like and it's not just that they're bullet sponges it's like oh you have to walk like to just walk through this place and explore you have to kill like loads of them over and over and over again it's the same but that isn't that rpg things where you just kill kill stuff gain xp it's these things okay so the way in which you do because like you just to get through this place and navigate the map and explore and find the stuff that you need to find you need to kill loads of these fucking creatures and it's super annoying but you're in the jedi and it's a space adventure so you got to kill helpless animals against the might of the jedi they shouldn't let you do the the taking the tlj path where you save all these animals but you you just they're probably weaker and they probably don't have nearly as many hit points i would probably play the game at that point what glass did you use or it doesn't matter for you it doesn't matter it's just that killing these enemies is the chore for you i don't remember anymore um it was a while ago that i played it and i just remember how tedious it got at this part oh it's like i i don't know what to say man that's like rpg one on one are you grind well uh so the combat being a grind no i mean you grind to get levels that's what i was uh i don't even to get levels this was to navigate the map you had to kill these creatures like now i like a lot of rpg's and grinding for levels is not something in any of them that i like um everything from guild wars two to divinity original sins all that stuff i that's not you mean grinding for levels on that i enjoyed the mission um where you have to where you i enjoyed like leaving the first planet yeah that was where you have to steal a ship before the planet gets blown up uh huh that was really fun the guy you have to like fight there that was fun still wasn't like top-notch gameplay you know but uh i enjoyed it i don't know what to say jay i i don't mind it it's the problem he said you had an angry gamer moment and you stopped working yeah i did i did it was like i pray week oh we can more how do you feel you're getting cold out by metal whoa what's that supposed to be wow you're getting cold out by more i call people constantly it's like a personal tasting i don't mind killing helpless things on the way to the story you know just just me just just means that jay doesn't have to steal as your beings you know i'm just saying you like now on on your way to a cinema with a sword yeah you're running like an lpg character yeah killing the cats on the way like you're running you're running through streets with a sword murdering people like picking change over pockets like i've got a grind so i can get into the cinema exactly i've got i've got to unlock the story by killing npcs someone in the chat said uh uh let's see rags stop being contrarian you know jay is wrong here's the thing if jay is if jay is correct in what he's saying then i agree with him but i can't remember it has been so long since i touched these games i cannot remember like wait wait wait wait perspective a is presented perspective a is counted rags chose one side and he's called contrarian that doesn't make sense all i said is that i don't like a a large amount of bullet spongy repetitious enemies when there are two opposing sounds presented someone sides with one of them it's contrarian when there are two opposing perspectives presented you can't side you can't not be a contrarian yeah also i can by definition yeah yeah this is this is not a plot hole this is consistent with rags his character he he the boss is in killing floor two he's not a fan of because they're bullet sponges and they just run around yeah it's it's more that the mechanics don't of the fights and the attacks they make i don't think owe themselves well to killing floor style but also that yeah they are bullet spongy no i don't see i don't know if i could critique jay because he's bad at the game or he just he doesn't like the grind the grind the killing enemies do you get that like there's an optimal there's probably like a strength build with the jedi knight and you just i'm sure after all this time there are meta builds for that game that game is super broken yeah yeah he knows all this shit yeah so hmm i got triggered like it's a visceral emotional response i really love the story of kador but but yeah jay just said he doesn't like the gameplay so yeah sorry no i think jay bullet peruth no one can touch me space balls isn't fucking funny so what's it honestly um what do you want to come so what's it honestly rack like some awful games but that's all good name three name three legion two eight eight five oh game that i like oh god you get it called out yeah isn't like these aren't the enemies easy though like like these enemies aren't easy to kill supposed they're supposed to be like this is the early part of the game shouldn't you just be killing them easy someone someone said rags the end of hellblade is wave after wave of random damage sponge enemies what do you think of that so i don't think i i hate to say you're playing the game wrong however what you're referring to the damage that the enemies do to you and their health is literally irrelevant to how that fight is supposed to happen um oh yeah i was so that's not that is not a good example that you should be using my dude you supposed to say my dude arena but i will i will agree that the hellblade gameplay is like five out of ten it's pretty pretty pretty pretty mediocre it's the atmosphere and the characters and the story and the acting in that game that i think is so insanely good i love this conversation i don't like wolfenstein new order new order was i don't like wolfenstein new order no you like breeders of nephalem i've never played breeders of nephalem it's on your wishlist that means you like that that was that that was a joke joke oh and so many coats joke it really was a joke i have no interest in that game or playing it or anything it's common it's like a rags didn't rags make a favorable review of a bad wolfenstein oh yeah young blood oh yeah i think i'm i think young blood is unfairly maligned yeah i think gameplay wise i think gameplay wise it's quite good i think the characters and story are ridiculously bad which i think the environments are some of the best i've ever seen is that the one where we laughed at the trailer for it on stream i think so with the like the women in like the golden silver spandex or something i can't remember so it's like the guild wars is grind so we're talking about the grind in combat guild wars combat isn't a grind now you will especially if it's end game stuff you will grind for like crafting materials and things of that nature sure to get certain things but the combat itself is not a grind also someone said i love these conversations with efab about things they don't know anything about because they can't even articulate their arguments so what's been discussed is a part of the game that put jay off right and then now we're talking about mechanically what it is where it's good where it's bad so much about it and then it's not playing because of it a year ago and never tried again like yeah i'll fall into that i don't know a huge amount about it yeah but you're talking about something specific you can do that you don't actually need to know the whole game to talk about that part yeah it's fun to say you didn't like an aspect of the gameplay it's fun it's possible that someone could be like oh just like here's a tactic that you can use to get this like way easier and be like oh okay cool like that's yeah that's it because they didn't like try again or anything to try to figure out how to properly get through it i just couldn't be fucked with it like i that's what i said that's what i meant when i said that i can't really get mad at jay because he didn't really like study the game to get better at it is that makes sense jay yeah you never study unlike me you never study the blade jay so i can forgive your trespass for for your ignorant comment even like the gameplay works like perfectly in that game yeah yeah like even i think i think it maxes out like a four out of ten because the gameplay the gameplay this like very simple turn-based stuff that uh basically can't do anything um you're just standing around until your turn starts again but it's in real time yeah yeah i get that someone said final final fantasy 14 isn't bad rax is just blind with guild wars i'm not guild wars has problems to it but i could not get into final fantasy 14 i didn't enjoy it i didn't like the world i didn't like the i i i couldn't get into that game it just did not it did not at all mesh with me my craft is a really bad survival game so for me getting to level 80 is the grind at i would say the reverse getting to 80s relatively quick and easy after that you have the grinds for the masteries and your ascended gear and things of that nature and the collections can be grindy and descended trinkets in particular but like yeah i some of these uh some of these comments are a little interesting i'm really enjoying saying the people ranking on koto's story in chat like yeah i don't i don't even know like i didn't get far enough through it because i really like i think kotor has one of the best twists in in gameplay history in in video game history and that's all i have to say actually for for i want to finish it now well i can't you may as well want to play it oh fuck i i i want to make a hot take since everyone has a hot take but i can't think of anything right now just say what's the most beloved thing you think is terrible the most beloved thing i think it's terrible but i love everyone well that's not true but well see we can just doesn't want to lose stock he wants to he wants to maintain his position wait we can what's that what's an anime that you think is bad that most people think is good hmm an anime that a lot of people think is good but i don't like sure oh wait oh i think some parts of jojo are overrated yeah what a weak take go harder we can say something shit wait wait i'm really thinking though stay the same thing in a more inflammatory way that'll do it yeah yeah just be like a lot of parts of jojo are really fucking overrated like people are wrong about like oh get better than it is just say it like that you're good someone someone's saying rags and moller re4 has aged terribly i disagree i definitely disagree with that that's that's wrong because re4 the gameplay of the re4 is the basis for all for most of the games after that i think it holds up really well it is Resident Evil 4 is a shockingly consistent game yeah i suppose you could yeah the best you can do is like i don't like tank controls like okay but they function like all of it yeah they function they function really damn well the the combat and the enemies and how they respond to your hits is extremely consistent and learnable that's that's an excellent game for committing yourself to and learning like all of this stuff about it and eventually you can almost exploit the game because of how consistent it is eventually there's a reason why it's like survived years and years and years later chat um takes that you're the most confident and oh now we only think it's eight poorly now before i want to see what they say i want to do it chat throughout your most unpopular opinion that you know is right and it's going to be terrible i want to see wait somebody made art already muller wait i'll i'll send it to you in twitter jeez christ oh is it the one where you're going off to kill people yeah we said it in our in our chat and they said it oh wait yeah h is bad what is that my hero my hero i'm just so incorrect so oh oh oh fuck it's going so fast oh jesus powers overrate the troop tastes good e-fab e-fab 84 was good no dark souls second half falls apart that's not that's not that hot i think jay is bad mootl stream is the true effect i really thank you wow someone said someone in cats like the witcher is a bad series don't know so here's think if you're talking about the show i don't know i haven't seen the show i've played the second witcher in the third and they're both quite good like really good witcher two is difficult into the point where i wouldn't i as good as witcher two is it is definitely not a handholdy sort of game it's a difficult game uh to the point where it can be frustrating and i wouldn't easily recommend it to everybody um like i would the third but they're both quite good moose someone said civil war is garbage that's not a lot of loads of people think civil war is garbage they're all wrong they're wrong Dracula and told us a masterpiece it's certainly entertaining breath of the wild sucks uh a lot of people coming up to go off the witcher three now all guys suck but i still play it i completely agree yeah no it was so terrible i want to make a video on it but i have other season two might have pissed me off enough to never play that game again yeah season two like the addition of content has pissed me off like it's still had the complete reverse reaction to for me because um they've added like three new maps and a couple color variations and some accessories and stuff it's not even that like they've added like two minor variations on it one of which is a copy of the worst fucking game mode in the game by the way egg scramble like this this is surely not a hot take surely everyone agrees that fall guys season two is fucking pathetic probably not like okay they copied egg scramble cloned it changed the maps lightly it was like a new game they um changed the maps for the hoops day mode which still isn't a great game game a mini game um just made a new map for it and they put it out like a new game they made a new like a single new race gauntlet like you should be able to pump out so many fucking race gauntlets for that game it should be such a simple process to make race tracks for that game just give the people workshop abilities yeah make their own maps and exactly um they added and they're never gonna do that by the way i feel because then like if there's new maps coming constantly there's never gonna be hype for the efficient added but um i have but then then uh what else shit uh what was the other thing they added oh they added one new game mode it's like the same simple challenge copy and pasted four times oh and then they added a new quote unquote game mode which just removes content from the existing game um and then you so you can play the game without some of the content because there was already so much content that somebody just removed okay well back me up i've been i know you agree well like i said the they added stuff and by revealing that this was the big content drop it like actually annoying me to the point where i just don't even want to play it even though it's in a better state now than it was before the update technically speaking but it's not in any way good enough that's why i'm out um we we've gotten some takes iron man has no arc interstellar is shit dark knight rises is better than civil war buffy sucks there's no good sonic games lord the rings lore is awful god of war four is bad it's like well someone doesn't make our one bad and we have it it was not that a lot of people think it's aged early pulling one has bad gameplay i saw that too i was about to say like it ain't great but it's pretty good so but isn't a horror game it's true though let's drop it back 2000 water space on the scene all those boring films i've ever seen that's pretty reasonable i think those are weaker takes when you describe a feeling when you're like oh i found it yeah man it's like people people it's like the kind of like people like ralph will go what you you think it's boring dumb yeah it's boring you know it's boring 80 percent of among us when you're playing through it that's actually many times that you're the um unless yeah it you're like you're waiting for accusations to happen which i think is the fun stuff in among us or you're actually the imposter where you're planning how to kill these people we can worry it going up to the wall pressing download waiting for a bar to be about across the screen and then walking to another wall a height of entertainment i almost feel like you know you know those pop-up ads it feels like that okay so what somebody tweeted that out like that's the meat that that's what it reminded me of oh and and that made me like oh it's kind of boring if it's nothing nothing's happening right the the fun part in among us is the social aspect of it and it only gets used when people are going to die or people have died and people are accusing each other so yeah but i i'm happy that their game blew up but like 80 percent of it is like oh i'm just i still really love doing my chores yeah i still really love the game mm-hmm um that's it yeah but yeah it's just walking through that i think it's like a build up smash is hot yeah okay what smash is horizon zero dawn isn't a fun game oof i don't know yeah so i played it bleach is garbo that's the only hurt i've taken about i take i've heard about it it's it's correct though e-fap is a wonderful podcast with wonderful people like movie pop in many ways what please elaborate on that general kenobi i'm very curious what you mean oh this is one uh solo is better than return of the jedi no that's uh no no no i i think the approvator and luke stuff in return of the jedi destroys anything inside i agree that's an interesting standard because like solo's plot is still as broken as like the first yeah i wouldn't want to underestimate like especially the big payoff wherever we'll betray each other none of it makes any sense like what are the motivations here um hang on what hang on i found it really funny because it's too confusing for you to like keep track of how none of it makes sense yeah so you watch it and you go oh i guess this probably makes sense right like you don't it's it's too it's like too much for your brain to keep track of it once so when people are saying nor you don't realize stuff nor okay how about mark movies are a whole or entertaining but the impact they left on cinema is bad which ones like i i guess i don't have clarification on that one which one sorry like the the need for the protagonist to be this snarky asshole i think that's been popping up like but that's like so that is that a marvel thing or a society thing or a culture thing society i'd probably say that yeah i guess a lot of people are trying to do like like iron man is really good in that aspect yeah people work for it i'm sorry person in chat return of the jedi is convoluted is not a that's not up okay but it doesn't make it worse than solo the only great thing from star wars what that's possibly the worst take i've seen today do you mean the film or the comic because like one of those i can support as like a very valid perspective it's it here's one i agree with it but joker is better than taxi driver that's true though so yeah joker is better than taxi driver marvel is cringe marvel is what the death of movies no i don't agree with that what is that marvel would mean i'm packing like five out of ten i would just need them to explain what they mean do they mean that lots of i'm very confident that they probably mean um marvel has introduced some tropes who were hollywood that other films have tried to copy because they have no ideas of their own that's not my fault yeah that's like the dark souls argument will be their impact but it's like those films are never going to be good like the shitty copycat films like the you know um the dceu yeah the dceu shit like that that's just like patchworks of whatever's popular in hollywood at the time isn't going to be good anyway the fact that they're influenced by marvel because those are the popular films right now doesn't mean that it's marvel's fault that that bad like it's just that's the easiest thing for them to lash onto and copy because they have no original ideas of their own this one's interesting uh rags uh seven days to die is meh at best so i think i described seven days to die as like the the it's probably the best example i have of a really broken janky game that's still really fun but there's a lot of subjective stuff about what like i really like it but i could absolutely see why someone would hate it but i i really like it i dig it i think there's a lot of stuff in there i think it's mechanically rich i think there's a lot of interesting things to do and build up and see and but i but a lot of it's really it's got a lot of stuff going on in there and it ain't all great in fact very little of it is great it's it's how all the pieces combine but yeah i could see how someone would really hate seven days to die but i really like it i always i'd always recommend it to people i just saw um aquaman is better than any marvel movie oh fuck oh wow that didn't even really aquaman's so bad uh okay i saw captain marvel is better than coater i think we have someone trolling there we're entering into a new phase of hot take where it's just things being said yeah i think the book of hark knights the inflammatory at this point oh yeah that's it doing it salvation is a great film um oh yeah i like therminator that's where can i spoil it since the franchise is dead wait but what sorry spoil spoil terminator salvation oh sure yeah that's that's your care about that you're wrong no it's obviously it's a good move it's better than whatever the fuck happened after that well that's right so i agree with the second part of what you just said what we say is it's the best of the terminator sequels meaning everything after two maybe like yeah you know clarification but salvation still has loads of issues unfortunately someone said bioshark two is better than infinite that that ain't a hot take at all that's correct that's just true that's two is a mechanically excellent game that takes place in a really super interesting world with a story that's meh story but i just kind of wrote it a story that's stapled on to the first one it's like they really want to have more and then infinitely shit uh so it is the best horrible movie hey lowest mediocre especially the first one someone who said a couple of times red light media is a shit shadow i can't tell i can't tell what you these takes are a trolls now uh let's close this worse than rise of skywalk that's a hard sell sorry i hate the prequels and that's a hard sell the gray is a five out of ten damn let's see um thing uh oh here's what theo and franey are desperate attention seekers and copycats who want to copy mawler's hot takes with their own hot takes the same as mine what sorry adam sampler makes better movies than christopher nolyn spy spider-man 2 is way better than the entire mcu i'll listen to you if you didn't watch it when you're a kid oh jay so mean hey do you think that spider-man 2 is a bad movie jay no no i just think it's really like overrated and like don't get me wrong it's a very good movie people fucking suck its dick like to the end like i i would struggle to find movies that are as good as people say spider-man 2 is so you agree it's possible phenomenal i think it's pretty damn good yeah spider-man 2 is one of the best superhero movies ever made yeah it is really good i would agree but it is very good but like gets like it has like a sort of uh camp yeah oh yeah realistically designed to be that way right i think i think my issue is that i've just watched the high top films video on it not just now but i mean like i've watched that didn't we cover his video on it no we covered kosmos raimi videos we covered high tops videos on the homecoming i think cover his um cover his his spider-man one video i think because it's like um he goes so overboard with the praise it's insane like he's talking about the uh the mise en scene of uh of like peter's room he's like talking about all like little props that uh would have put in there and he's describing like oh there's a periodic table on his wall there's pencils on his desk it's like he describes like a few objects like that it's like uh it's like this is a nerdy kid's room this attention to detail has never been matched by other films you're like he's just he's just so into those movies so what did you I don't know high top was right about some stuff he just went bonkers so wait a minute bonkers bonkers um but you guys remember um did you guys ever play star fox assault new the adventure type in game cube where you walk around as the actual character uh so there was adventures where you do that but assault combined the it had both it had going around on the ground and shooting things in person but also the vehicle stuff and i remember quite liking it i think it worked pretty well for being a shooter on game cube i remember it working pretty well hot tag this segment of e-fap is the worst segment ever dude i'm about to redave the title it'll just be uh you know hot tag avalanche and then the other stuff you should drive your grown up hey i'm thinking someone here said devil man cry baby's terrible oh i know you're you're you're you're gonna get a video about that i've never seen that i was very controversial by my understanding so it's a good it's a good enemy and what did he say exactly rags that's terrible oh he's wrong well so anyway what things that happen are terrible but yeah so we can think of a hot take video is that what we're going to see at some point also we can wear a stay don't do work yeah all right yeah i have to work i have a video coming out on the Baldur's Gate which is fun wait if if all of chat says you should stay for the Patrick Gordon's video will you stay no because i have to work why are you so mean they don't if you're it's a hot take adults have to work okay chat are you talking about working on a video yeah so it's not working so here's the thing making videos is is a way to grow your channel as is participating on a relatively popular live stream there you go this is this is like adjacent to your own videos right it is running parallel with your own goals rags rags i already gave a super chat i said i was gonna work while you were in the background but jay had a hot take so i made a cameo look at all the work look at all the tea fun in chat this is horse yeah i have to say it's fun yeah i agree look at this labor reading some of these takes labor we can look at chat look at the look at how they're crying don't leave oh okay this is my hot take i'm gonna leave okay how about that fuck off chat chat just kidding don't don't chat i'm sorry i have to work chat so i'm expecting crying emojis in a second oh no chat sorry i have to put you down chat i want my way to work chat chat i'm on my way to work they said they'll unsubscribe if you leave no don't do that i'll stay you can donate to me though that's okay there you go see metal go to metal look at them they're all crying i can't believe you did this yeah too bad too bad chat ha man just i really want to stay but i want to i want to release this well well the release is hot how about do can we compromise where you you stay for a little bit i will stay for a little bit okay see here we go i'm i'm the master negotiator i'm like trump right i this is this trade deal is probably one of the best trade deals in the history of chat i appreciate that trade deal okay come on i think this is a pretty good one as far as they all go i will say for a little bit fine side note we were talking about the marvel movies i just ran into this character in guild wars i was just playing while we were waving we've been chatting and this character's name was quite good so i enjoyed it why is the war homecoming is at least as good as spider man team i already know that's a hot take uh chas can be very upset with you for just so good i know they're both really really really really really really i think homecoming's better but they're both so good i don't even care i just like i don't even care about great i think it's so close for me that i'd have to deep dive in both of them also into the spider verse i've said this before those three of my top spiderman movies and it's still haven't seen that i hear it's great it's very good um very very good southpaw has been dealing with someone who's been shitting on it recently i've heard uh it sounds amusing perhaps we shall we shall cover that someday chat would you like that would you like us to get away from hot takes start talking about how into the spider versus good is that what you want is that what you're fucking deserve um also that's the link to the watch together if everybody wants to jump right in i think we've already seen this one oh yeah it's the same one it's just for weekend okay good okay okay i got it that works yeah i'm doing my streams and on the youtube it's like i'm holding it to the to the to weep repertiles like it's a thing i've been watching anime since i was young but i do it in phases so i don't talk about it every goddamn day of my life anime with like an anime girl pfp i know ironic shut up uh but people forget oh hey he's actually he might actually watch anime yeah i do that i've been addicted to genjin that's why i get it uh i'm playing it on stream it's like we play it no baller shills the mcu too much yes baller who says like there's five good ones you shill you fucking shill yeah it's fun funny that people say that it's like okay whatever i always have to remind them it's like the majority of my content online in relation to the mcu is shitting on it but uh yeah i say that homecoming is really good and they're like wow mcu shill yeah like when i when you take all the mcu movies in average amount it's like five out of ten uh yeah that's yeah that's probably i don't know i'm not even sure if it's that high there's a lot of really bad ones that bring which one most of this is more recent though aren't they um and the wasp is but was okay it's not great well i don't know if i am at three counts is new and then he goes four two which is pretty ghastly but then yeah uh captain marlowe i thought you actually bad because like yes i can confirm it's bad i rewatched it it's really hard to remember it but there's fucking stupid writing in it i've never just been able to remember what fucking happens in it like i have no idea if it's bad because it's elf man bad jay that that's yeah oh sure the dark elves are bad oh it's all likes to you know yeah he's got some interesting ideas about elves to be fair your only praise video is an mcu movie how is that a fair representation of my channel i've got praises for all kinds of things but no no that means that's the only good movie yeah actually that was just for me that's it the other all the others are shit um how come these are so but don't get considered in my like praises uh all the other streams in that is it not like games videos that watches videos that would those were good the soma vids were good oh thank you very good they're very good soma's a fucking masterpiece everyone should play it yeah that's some top two previously oh geez all right so oh no chat we're officially out of the hot take territory you are now it's now illegal to make a hot take as well as talk about someone else's hot take that is now illegal we're gonna listen to patrick talk about what we want from a star wars movie part two you see part one didn't quite answer the question so now we get to know the true answer yeah it didn't quite on the stage oh i wonder where he's gonna go i mean he he's already waking up on a beach here but so he's a filmmaker where does where does he live i guess he lives by a beach somewhere he lives in palmsprings is that florida or california or i have no fucking clue i just said wait wait he just got patrick williams is like the quintessential californian though mola was wrong about black panther i know i didn't even go hard enough on californians and chat listening to that guys so the if i am assuming correctly the first part is just williams stepping up this part right because from what i gather he doesn't really answer the question i'll say the summary of part one is the fans want the experience of what they remember from the ot that's that's what i think the takeaway was okay which has been very terrible thing isn't it well i was going to say it's a really boring take like oh you guys just want what you liked you're like okay people just want to have i would say that people want to have their encyclopedia of trivia oh that's justified people want the things they like what oh well well yeah can you believe it took him as long as it did for him to get to that point um the takeaway might also be shut up tlj is good oh well that was a big part of it too but i do want to really flakes that movie just back up what rax just said about the whole like so he thinks that when the original shit came out it was it had problems but we accepted them all as just that is star wars and now problems are unacceptable because it is not it's new it's like spooky new so yeah i guess we'll we'll have a look see on patrick h willow how was your vacation i don't want to talk about the coconut this is charl charl i felt like we needed some new supporting cast members charl that's that's a character called charl it's odd it is odd but comedy i have a name for a coconut i think that's the joke is that it's not really a proper name and maybe yeah this is good huge improvement this is weird why are we doing this look guys i have a long list of ways to improve the channel this year that's a good question guys why are we doing that's a good question though yeah like oh god this is 31 minutes so it's this self-aware cringe that we're is that is this a self-aware cringe section well when when did this trend of wearing t-shirts underneath blazers begin uh yes i think it can look the laziest kind of indecisive formal i can think of why isn't decisive because you're wearing a t-shirt under a blazer what's wrong with that that's just the style rags i guess that just became i'm asking where it came from i think it should end i i don't i don't think that t-shirt should be worn with blazers like no more hot takes i think anyone should be allowed to wear whatever they want rags that's my hot oh yeah yeah you're you're allowed to you know you just said you want to make them stop i would like to well i mean like i want them to stop right but i'm not gonna i mean i i have a fairly libertarian position on t-shirts with blazers i don't like it but i just think like dress nice or dress casual don't mix them let's maybe get a casual look it's a casual look no it's lazy casual it's like ooh i'm putting blazer no that's a lazy casual style rags it's just just the style i just i just say that you say lazy imagine just being a dog and like that's your prior avatar like how if i want to be formal i'll suit it up right if i if i just want like it's to say it's lazy it's just oh i just want to wear a blazer today what how is that lazy because you're you're you're not committing to either how is it like you're committing to just the jacket with nothing beneath it okay like how is it lazy if you were a blazer in a t-shirt then just wear like a t-shirt with jacket you ain't committing you're trying to straddle the line and it don't look good you are committing you've made a decision to wear a t-shirt with a blazer what if i have a problem with what if my white shirt goes well with my black jacket black blazer right what a black jacket with a blade what kind of jacket are we talking about oh the blazer the chateau versity regularly wears shirts with a blazer well exactly exactly i don't fucking care i don't care i don't know why is it lazy i don't understand why it's fucking lazy though like it's pickable it's it's a crime against fashion is a crime it's not everyone fashionable people wear this shit rags no no no no they don't by definition like okay you're saying that and like patrick williams is doing it on screen no but i'm wearing it it's fine williams is just oh that's your profile picture like that's why he's so offended i don't understand never you don't even wear pants i hate your profile picture is like a tweed jacket yeah i never i never got to be a blazer it's it doesn't even look like one even on the picture you posted that's not a blazer that's just a brown jacket oh is that different from the blazer doesn't have the the the lines on it so all all blazers are jackets not all jackets are blazers it's like bores and pigs yeah but i have blazers also and i wear them so i don't understand why was the issue talking about gravitar i it never struck me as blazer and if it is now i can't unsee it and i don't like it see rags you don't even wear clothes so what do you know yeah you're wearing a pumpkin wait so the blade wait so i am wearing a pumpkin wait so the blazer doesn't have the thing the line thing what line thing is that is that it the line thing like okay we just talk about the video so i just think as someone who doesn't wear clothes i seem to have the best grasp on fashion here is no no you don't yeah because shades are an accessory they're not clothing i'm making a straw poll now no it's just weird to say it's lazy it's weird how much you're clinging on to it that's not weird why is it it's just weird to say that you don't like it because it's lazy what it's like it's like oh it's like when you're leaving your house it's like when you're leaving your house to go to an event and you're wearing a t-shirt and then you remember oh right it's supposed to be nice and then you just throw out a blazer like an asshole and then you walk out the door assuming the uh motivation here what if you yeah someone like people don't have to want to be lazy to be lazy what not everyone looks in the mirror they go through like all of that clothes and they think i think the best yeah the best fit this t-shirt or this blazer that's not laziness that's just that's a different problem arguably worse why because he chose to do that rags is that yeah maybe making the affirmative decision after checking it is even worse than laziness then again that could probably be cured but laziness is hard to cure so i don't know maybe it is better i'm right i'm making a straw poll now and it's going in chat i don't care it doesn't mean anything it's argument for modularity wait what's one of the choices declaration which is that it's it's no there's no like there's no factual basis by which to argue yeah it's intrinsic to the universe that it is cringe fashion what word would you use to describe it not like this t-shirt with the blazer is a bad look it's unfashioned lazy i think rags head is lazy let's commit is don't straddle the line like a fucking filthy fashion centrist right fucking good to be fair i do i don't i don't like centrist it's the worst ideology so that means you don't like blazers with t-shirts have you seen um have you seen the virgin centrist versus the sad the sad the sad the sad the sad the sad centrist versus the virgin centrist that's all there is the chad centrist policy implying that like he's just a happy virgin actually i'm pretty sure i've seen this i'm pretty sure i've so new so new shut up um was this poll we did so oh yeah i i i don't even really care that much i don't have any real investment in this i just wanted to see you don't like rax you see you don't like it i i'm offended why i don't like it it's lazy formal i'm not liking it it's a subset of the fact that it's awful yeah but your basis for it is it's lazy and some people just don't think it's lazy it's not intrinsic there's a fundamental attribute of existence in and of itself it is inseparable from reality so you mean the atoms have like the it's it's there are my right rags is that what you're saying right way beyond atoms we have to go this is past the quantum all right so in the big bang it's like there before the world is created right here's uh it's i don't know but it's moving too fast for like this to show up here's the straw poll is a t-shirt with a blazer is i mean you could discuss it amongst yourselves if you wish but i i don't know ha winning the results are pouring in oh my god it's like touching each other chat don't disappoint me now i stayed for each other like a t-shirt and a blazer shouldn't remember do it for shad do it for weekend i can't believe this shit like it's lazy it's so fucking lazy if you decide to do it it looks good the fuck is that shit a book look what the fuck is this shit chat i'm so disappointed chat how did i type that how did i type that yeah jay is a book look what the fuck okay a book look people know what it means i assume jay you're making us the blazer shirt team look bad jay i got that i could remake it um the fuck is a book look wait wait i'm gonna send something since this is like happening right now right i might be tired than i thought the thing is as i was typing this out was at the same time that i was like fucking up like saying the virgin centrist versus the sad trencherist trencherist thing that i was typing is a t-shirt with a blazer it's a book look truly the greatest question of the age and it looks as if we have a definitive answer it is a book look after christmas versus halloween is settled this should be the question is a t-shirt with a blazer it could look like a book on a t-shirt with a blazer like is it good they're just like oof i don't know they tell you it's a book is it good or is it book oh dammit jay i don't know if that like made people choose it more or less i don't know what the bias would be i think more yeah wait i'm gonna say more yeah because a good look was winning and then we noticed a book look and like pointed it out and uh started or people just you know all the all the the people who hate it got into the thing later you know that could easily explain it too i think this answer is jay you've lost it's a bad look i'm sorry like how could you how could you possibly it's a nine vote difference that's the world i'm literally crying and shaking right now yeah me too literally did you did you guys see it i sent something on discord i did so i guess we can carry on with the video now that that's been settled chat oh we got sent some art cool yeah it is is it about a book look no oh about the gang it's cute wow wearing the superior lock am i what am i reading you're reading you're reading uh my psychology my psychology my psychology why am i shooting myself a tism gun why wouldn't you be it's more it's more of a tism angle it's an angle you should put a jaw is everyone sort of looking on at rags because of his book look take yeah probably yeah bad rags must be an imposter rags looking sess yeah that's the title of this blazes is a book look yeah they're not gonna drop book look by the way Jay no I know that's that's fine it's quite a mistake because you didn't even use a or D well like I assume I come I combined the words bad and look yeah but A and D didn't even get in there they were just unwelcome yeah so anyway you guys ready to go back to the video the book yeah we can check out what what do we cover oh yeah that's right Patrick Williams made a video to the camera all Britland people Matt and Jake your personal branding it's a mess if we're all gonna be skinny white guys with facial hair either you can tell that these props because they just took them out of the box and put them on because they still have that big obvious crease going down the middle so they're doing a bit we each have a distinct aesthetic like modern X men or we go for consistent uniformity you like classic 1960s X met the clothes that I wear like every day everything Jake everything look I have to go to a meeting right now while I'm out I want you each to brainstorm at least 15 potential catch did they suck all of his hair out to themselves I don't know if that's how it works but maybe into the hair creature catch phrases for yourselves okay something like oh it's mad but funnier this is self aware cringe though right yeah it is but it's like it's not like it's not funny yeah it's not funny it's like just being like if I just went like like okay but that was funny J though right this is what's called safe is that you're trying to it's supposed to be self aware cringe but it isn't actually funny but you could say oh but it's supposed to be unfunny because it's being silly enough I said like you can't win you can't lose with it it's perfectly safe you can't touch it also someone said they thought you were referring to the people when you said they were props right I was like that's actually fair they are kind of just props right in the video yeah that was the subtext of rings his comment see right now it's all about themes why would you say oh oh what if we do striped shirts but they're different colors Jake that is gone on their shirts to keep it up real like Alvin in the job oh the other ones isn't that's weird yeah one by the way here while I'm out by yourself some tasty treats and I want like 15 ideas each by the time I get back do you think horizontal shapes make me look fat you should value the fact that this is stuff we can just watch and then not even have to cover you know there's a story there's a story here yeah get invested but yeah they're gonna decide who's facial hair awesome tears it come comedy no you're just jealous that you can't do this good with your sitcoms I'm not even sitting right now seems like are you coming Star Wars hoping the new one the date is December 19th 2019 why would he still have a ticket for that old if I had to guess I would say this is some sort of memento mori do you remember the night he came back from this very film yeah he said fuck you JJ how fucking dare you okay well still it was really funny dad in distraught he was how miserable stinking trunk talking about how this film broke his heart it's a space film for wizards and children contrary to the popular belief that Harry Potter is a film for wizards mm-hmm a film about wizards for children and Star Wars film about films for children where it's fun with Harry yeah what he said Star Wars is a wizard about films stop stop Wizard Wars today that whole vacation to Mexico where he comes back talking like he took a seminar from Tai Lopez he has an imaginary friend coconut with googly eyes I think this film broke him what is this yeah also incredible profile but why he's trying to make he's trying to what you just do he's trying to recreate that night where he made the tweet into some sort of artsy experience or funny experience I guess but it's self-aware cringe it can't be artsy and self-aware cringe can it just like oh like I feel like this is expired humor you know this is the kind of stuff that wow I'm not hit it referred to that way before but I like it it's gone sell by day there was a time for jokes like these and that was like at least ten years ago yeah well I can't I can agree it's expired because I haven't so much as smiled yet maybe your mean you're a big mean you take feelings away from people that's probably why Milan was funnier than this the new one right both of them yeah one more earnestly funny than the other yeah yeah so they both are more funny than this I agree with it I mean I didn't love the new moon lawn you watched it alone yeah that's why yeah I feel like you that's definitely why oh we laughed a whole budge he's wearing directed by Ryan Johnson shit how embarrassing why why people will just think that you're shit you were directed by right you're directed by I think we should take a break oh that's the job guys if you're gonna do skits be funny hey he's just he's at least one at least one default to critic does skits they're like bizarrely interesting I know I would call this very bizarrely interesting it's like I'm curious I guess not for me I just I couldn't care less at this point I'm not even engaged like it's gonna be interesting and engaging the right person I'm sorry maybe I'm complaining about bad jokes and then I say that no it's fine fine jail forgive no there is no okay J careful of music oh good point surely he would do yeah this is probably some like yeah I mean like you kind of it's it's almost like obligatory for you to be you know to do the YouTube video thing and have that be the case with something like we'll care about something like loads of people have done the bit we're saved okay good we're good I think we're back here yeah was it the music someone said music but I don't know if if it's the music then it is licensed right that would be what that mean a ruse well hopefully doesn't use it again if it was to be like we've all got relationships with those some things we care we can't help but care sometimes those things we care about they let us down they why don't you need to go tell me what he's saying I could tell me about it what did it go back did it go down in the stream what happened no it should be fine what did you say Jay why don't you why don't you come you music on your end and we'll tell you what he's saying well no like he's talking now so it should be okay the music isn't loud enough like we could say things that he's not really saying like haha I'm dumb then it would be really funny he said it the series will sometimes let you down and we're all just sitting here after interesting thought what's the line they go down a path we can't follow that's like a layer no Padman yeah music's getting loud again I can I could meet while it's playing okay top five things I'm gonna miss about Star Wars number one that opening blast of John Williams a score where even if the movie turns out to be bad it starts out feeling like the best movie ever number two whenever a weird new puppet alien shows up and all the humans act like it's totally normal number I forget he has just like all of these things like I don't know yeah like he loves the Luke milking thing he thinks it's fucking great like if it is this I think he's doing like a breakup thing right like like what I'm gonna miss about this person and these are just arbitrary random things I imagine I guess I I wish you'd put less time into his stupid unfunny skits and more time thinking oh oh see see Mollard this is why EFAP is said to be forefront of harassment against directors being these comments oh my god well that means you're the forefront to just saying yeah yeah yeah we go down we go down together you're all coming with us screaming with in my little fucking pumpkin we're all going to internet jail everyone here there's room in this pumpkin for both of us jail I'm sorry you're what's horny jail yeah that's the only kind of I thought it was called the jail of the horn like that's the respectable to him yeah we're not respectable people yeah yeah think again being there doing stuff rollums making wookie sounds before the jumps to light speed and everything pauses and the stars stretch out and you realize that you breathe in every time it happens number five yeah no I don't mean it takes so long for him to do it I assume a breath is taken in that time yeah right about as far as I go this is the kind of thing that sounds smart and observational because you don't think about whether or not it's true when you gosh God just wants to talk about I'm waiting for the more you know interesting part this is more than just maybe you really does maybe really that Star Wars sounds that humming buzz of the lightsabers the way Kylo Ren's has that little crackle the way Thai fighters scream as they fly in I'm noticing that all of this is very superficial stuff yeah very surface level very superficial very brain just notices lights and sounds kind of thing Star Wars has the all-time best sounds in all of cinema I wouldn't go that far over the years Star Wars buddy I mean I wouldn't want to go that far with like anything it's a bit of a bold claim you know good sound design I would like if he said most iconic I could be like there's definitely an argument there sure yeah iconic sounds I'm thinking stuff like the t-rex is raw from the Jurassic but nowhere near like the harm of a lightsaber well no but they it would be in that categories all I'm saying like the I was gonna name a bunch but then I realized that there's no point we already know which wasn't over but yeah but to our relationship was the best it's ever been I felt so optimistic about the future of course not everyone like Patrick Willems the kind of inward who watches TLJ and he's like yeah optimism I feel incredible optimism the ending of the last Jedi is just so I just feel so optimistic about Star Wars well it burns in the background and smolders on the surface they tell you it is like the end they're like we're gonna rebuild the rebellion and Luke died a hero yeah well we're all like Jesus what just happened well yeah it's like the whole well obviously Poe is incorrect because Leia slapped him and said he was wrong so that must be the truth he actually was incorrect at the end we just ditched everybody's like fuck it our only hope of winning despite being a relative suicide mission it we're just gonna call it off halfway through it because people are dying which was always what we expected that create is such a disaster be a TLJ is a very depressing film provides you hope like even the end of the Empire Strikes Back you know I got I got my I got my I got my hand back we're gonna go rescue Han yeah we still got our group of people together we got our spaceships you know I can go train with Yoda like we got stuff to do things are gonna happen it's not all over I like that I'm saving that I know the Buddha just didn't make the ending the voice is so bad it's a fucking weird finale honestly yeah one did the fandom split into factions and it was clear people wanted a wildly different things from Star Wars I made a whole video people wanted a wildly different things I don't think so but maybe weird sense we did it's it's weird because he got to the trouble of going to a fucking subway to film this shit but he can't get sentences it's symbolic rags what do you think what do you think is telling you visually that we're stuck in a dark tunnel with this man it's a crossroads and look at the dark and like contrast and you get it wow that's so fucking artsy you just don't appreciate filmmaking that's you that's what you I hate films all of them we're actually gonna talk about audience expectations this time he's at a crossroads he's gonna he's gonna take a train where is he gonna go is he gonna leave stall behind he knows he references his last video and I think we got four different variants of what he was trying to say with that last video from us look till just good oh well yeah till just good shut up about it trying to understand how the relationship between a series of movies and its fans could change so dramatically and then the movie shit over the past two years my own relationship with star wars changed was it me was it why is no it's your it's your ability to analyze media accurately is shockingly bad just feels weird that he's doing this format like what happened between me and star wars like why why can't you just be like talk about what happens and why it's bad or not you know why do you have to do it this way star wars what happened I think the only way to figure this out is to look back over the past couple of years and see how things changed so okay in the words of our greatest modern poets the band Coldplay I'm going back to the start didn't you do that in the face I'm going back to the start it's not quotable that's such a mundane thing to say I'm going back to the start that's like saying ah yes like Albert Einstein said I'm going to the bathroom maybe that's the John Lincoln said the oh and the wise words of I don't know for Ernest Hemingway oh just the water um so like uh the first video he had like a history lesson quote unquote uh why would we do this again Patrick just where is the beginning of this timeline is it the ot or is it tlj I don't know let's see I just and the wise words of my grandma shut the door I'm trying to poop you're ruining me in this video I'm going to occasionally say positive things about the last Jedi lol lol you try to square you try to squeeze that into all of your fucking star wars videos because you have to try and win everybody over in this losing battle I'm well I'm starting to actually believe that is that the point of every star wars video we ever make is to just try to be like you know he's like custer at little bighorn trying his best knowing he's fighting a losing battle tlj is good though which I suddenly think is an excellent movie now for some of you that one opinion about one movie is a total deal breaker that renders anything else I might have to say it no it's just informative about how you make your other opinions as well yeah like it it automatically gives me oh we've gone to the black and white and he's wearing proper attire that's good that's a good start proper however yeah proper attire because he's yeah he still has he still doesn't have a tie which is you know it's I mean we're in progress of it guys are fucking out like they've expired no the time of ties is over the time of ties is over the time of no time the pre-necked time has begun hi I'm okay with ties I like ties I like ties are great and if you're if you're not going to wear a tie don't have your top button buttoned like a fucking imbecile but that's a style of rags honestly rags I'm not a fan of button up that top button ever really I'm just it's just I don't know it looks too well in a tie you should in a tie you should because it keeps the stuff behind the tie all night and eating the tidy tidy tidy whiteies in high school that was the uniform the uniform was a button down shirt in a tie that was the same for the same for mine but uh none of us yeah buttoned the top button it was too lame I'm sorry three-tip arms individuals it's a cool look to have the tie and also have it not be full 100 formal it's like oh look at you rebel oh like in height oh and the other thing that high school kids do is they the ones because that's they that's the eight well I don't know you have not with but a lot of the times they would because that's the age where you kind of get that you're your first car generally except for Mahler so people would get their keys and they would get that big old loop that you attach to your car keys and they'd they'd have that loop sticking out of their pocket and it would sag really really low and it'd be super obvious because they're like yeah that's right I've got keys for a car because I drive and that's so fucking cool yeah do you try to imagine that's pretty cool no uniform best uniform did you not have a uniform either what in high school yeah no we had one oh cringe everywhere I've gone to school except for college or as there was a uniform the uniform in college was just like clothes just wear clothes peony away this is officially the fashion e-fab okay we had to do it eventually my high school had no uniforms that explains a lot what does it explain even the football team it was very confusing out there on the field it explains why you chose a goth look for halloween because you just you just everything's warps you just don't know what uniforms are oh you don't understand the concept of uniform yeah you see I know I do understand I just don't like it a bloodied hockey mask hanging out inside a pumpkin and a vampire that's all on point a goth though it's like what are you doing I hang on a hockey mask inside a pumpkin and a vampire yeah what was that confusing so your son because now you understand how wrong and you please profile pic we can wear is quite a good halloween the little image there too with the thumbs up it's trying to invite you to a level of safety but really he's gonna kill you well we can start halloween but he's not using our underscore you think it's a red shirt it's actually a white shirt covered in blood oh yeah I can use my yeah shout outs out she hit me who made my out change it for for the occasion with you a fucking free fashion to pause wait sorry do you say someone made you a halloween thing yeah in my twitter so I think it's where the fuck is it yeah I'll see yeah I'm uploading it oh we just got it oh okay I'll tell you like I had one but I use halloween I'm using mine from last year I've got it I've got one tomorrow oh I'm just uploading it we can what about the one you think I'm afraid yeah I'm you can I'm gonna use now you can put the image in pink and draw some blood on it yeah but I don't want to draw some blood on the on the mouse mouse mouse mouse yeah yeah I'll just have a mouse in that picture no oh no no case I recommend you save yourself some time and just stop watching now all right see you damn it Patrick you need to teach us where he's really up to that he can't convince people that TLJ is actually good oh he convinced one or two one maybe okay fine I don't have any single arguments that's good it's really distracting from mobility to give him any benefit of the doubt the fact that he just cannot stop like pushing that one I'm sure they'd say the same in reverse we cannot stop ripping into TLJ or something because we hate all over the world it's shit and we can prove it yeah because I bring up TLJ all the time that's true we don't necessarily I mean I don't know you could probably get a comp compilation of all the times we've done it but it would still only be like two percent of e-fat or some shit I promise there's plenty of stuff on YouTube by people who share your exact opinions on Star Wars he's bitter you could you could tell how bitter he is that he can't convince the shit movies good might be looking a little into this but I feel as though that was a little bit of a slight against the idea that like everyone's uniform on hating it there's not like an interesting discussion going on it's more of a just boo TLJ and he's like yeah your exact perspective is all the way out there go have fun that sounds like oh you hate my take go search for your confirmation bias go back to your your echo chamber for Star Wars yeah well also that's a nice little you go crucifix are you getting attacked by something like imagine imagine you know the the humble version now if you're hearing you you you dropped out yeah imagine like the actual gracious version of this video where he says something now I'm gonna I'm it here we go again yeah imagine the actual gracious version of this video where he says something along the lines of oh hey I'm gonna be positive about TLJ if that puts you off then I applaud you for like actually sticking with something you disagree with and listening maybe not that dick sucky but you know what I mean like good for you for actually listening to alternative rather than going on well it's he's improved remember back in the day he'd be like if you want to go listen to a four-hour angry man ranting about the film then go ahead like no no no wait that was what he said no oh well it's I was giving him more credit let me give him a little credit okay I think it was a little worse than that wasn't it it was a little bit worse than that but I'm trying to make him look a little better okay come on Patrick needs it he's trying to trying to convince us about what he said in the lead-up to this is a movie about space wizards for children yeah he was the actual quote is something more on the lines of if people are recommending that I go and check out some angry rant for four hours which is not something he's going to do which I'm pretty sure if you're suggesting I go check out some angry four-hour rant on YouTube then let me tell you this is a movie about space wizards for children like okay thanks Patrick and then this video is him like what happened between me and star wars like oh so I can't I can't imagine starting out my mando video with this like like I could like with what he said about me I just go watch shit that you agree with well that's where that's where the bitter perspective comes in right yeah I was like guys I know this is a popular opinion stick with me it's okay if you like it but you'll stick with me I think I can convince you just give me a chance I could see you doing it as like a joke like a good look like a sort of poking the fire sort of thing like you know essentially I don't know I don't know like you would you would be quite you would say it with like a lot of conviction to sort of rile people up I think is something you would do that is something you do right you say stuff with like a lot of conviction or I've said things with a lot of conviction even though it's clearly a joke and people take it seriously and we'll get off my dick yeah people done that in the past yeah yeah oh yeah rax you did say I can't imagining everyone's fucking ripping into you for a well done idiot cringe bro that's that's a book look man yeah there's a book look yeah yeah I say I cannot imagine interesting of course for you to leave a comment on your way out about how I don't know anything about movies and have a great day I mean I mean I guess you know what get on with it we all get told that all reviewers get told they don't know what the fuck hold on movies so welcome to the club but actually actually you got it wrong yeah there is always some idiot in your comments who thinks they know better than you shut up Theo you don't know anything about movies all right I don't know if I trust french fries that are 99 cents yeah yeah oh that's right well how many times are we gonna do this it's like I feel like we still have to start the video we're far in yeah I like this movie too much beating around why would you shut up fuck state dude I don't care is he talking about the rise of skywalker now or well he's talking about apparently it starts with TLJ that's where our story starts and he likes it it's like that's fine it's okay it was made legal by john adams 100 years ago some shit you're fine the last shot I was the star wars movie I didn't know I wanted until I saw it it gave me all the stuff I generally want to see in a star wars movie space battles lightsaber fights all my favorite characters funny droids and aliens I mean god damn puppet Yoda shows up in this very 12 year old talking to me and then there was that bit where iron man punched the silver iron man and I thought it was so cool I'm sure it'll get into deeper stuff let's let's give him a chance to do that yeah it's been just recycled the greatest hits of the original what's the eating I want to judge I had a new perspective on what star wars could be and what just recycled the great I'm getting some weird tism with the video I need to roll it back to like it's a hot dog he took one bite and all that distance I'm I'm just gonna put it with his jacket his shirt just says directed by john no it's in john oh yeah he's the he's the brother of that one huckleberry fin character it gave me all the stuff I generally want to see in a star wars movie space battles lightsaber fights all my favorite characters funny droids and aliens I mean god damn puppet Yoda shows up in this thing but it didn't just recycle the greatest hits of the original trilogy it had a new perspective on what star wars could be and what it could do it felt it could do exactly the opposite of what it did before what it could do okay yeah it's it certainly did that yeah okay but if you considered like what if the thing you weren't expecting though yeah it was expected to be shit so it must be good have you guys considered yeah but what if nothing oh yeah what if what if it was nothing wow aesthetically like a part of the series while bringing in new filmmaking influences the end of this movie left us with star wars in a place it had never been before you're well yeah you're right like every movie you've done that that's a really like unless he's gonna pressing depressing dead end like yeah even the at the revenge of the sith after you watch all the Jedi get fucking slaughtered in the temple and the empire take over the galaxy you're like this is still less depressing than the end of the last you know what you know what you know what it goes into though true it leads to the wonderful ot where emperor tizm teen gets thrown down a whole not he barely got to see yaddle true head and in his place a conflicted complex character moving into the role yeah most people describe him as complex because they don't know what else to say about kylo he's complex well you ask people to follow that up with something they say oh he's so complex you're like oh good go on he makes unpredictable decisions that means he's complex he often goes against what we understand to be his goals he's complex you know that you know that joke in the simpsons where you know you know the one i'm referring to it where um the bullies the school bullies are scared of bar and then like later in the episode they start beating him up beating him up and they like was like like jimbo says weren't we afraid of him like a day ago and one of the other ones just says we're complex and that's it that's the way to that's the way to say it central antagonist with the primary hero moving beyond the old-fashioned ways of the jedi and the old-fashioned way it works good for like thousands of years and she's just amazing now well i don't know if it's you can sum it up like that give me some examples yeah moving past the ways of the jedi what are you like in honest good faith i'm not even sure what he's referring to like the fact that like what is she what is he talking about she moved past the ways of the jedi the movie play pays lip service to the idea that hey maybe you're pressing your emotions is bad and then it's like that doesn't inform any of the decisions of the characters for the for the rest of the story right that's just sort of like haze was bad uh i mean it forms it informs Luke's decision of why he's there but like it's not something that's really examined it's just it's it's the you know it's hot take the jedi were bad well yeah i always felt like it was garbage in ntlj that the the assessment of events of the prequels and the jedi's involvement in them was so one-sided it's fucking hilarious like the the the idea the jedi created Darth Vader you know it's like fuck off like what how could you sub it up like that that's uh it was a synth who created Darth Vader nope it was the jedi the trained him if you think about it hitler was also the guy well maybe it was the jedi because they completely ignored anakin when he was you know no it was definitely big problems the problem is that well and ray tries in the script to be like luke what you're saying is fucking nonsense when she's like uh a jedi is who trained Arthur and she's like a jedi also defeated him or brought him back it looks like that's cringe right right uh i disagree uh i'm the authority on this subject i've read all the books agree right brah the binary light side dark side concept with the democratization of the force and the idea well no the you have that we all just scrubbed it what does it mean to have the force be democratized yes it's a democracy now oh no don't uh you vote on who has the force democratize uh to make something accessible to everyone which is something we knew from the fucking beginning i was gonna say i guess you wouldn't mean that because that's we already had that i don't know that's a weird one like that's that's the misconception it's like it's not new it's just um people confuse the idea that now it doesn't take any effort now it's open to anyone yeah which wasn't cool with the fans like whoa you can't just have jedi flying around all over the place doing all kinds of crazy things you're supposed to supposed to be more special than that but okay and democracy wasn't he was it he's saying earlier before the democratization part that it's like the light side dark side was he saying that he talked about how it breaks away from the binary of the light side and dark side i'm okay with but like it doesn't really does it well that's not existed in the starwood universe before disney decanonized all that no and the problem is the dark side light side thing still happens at the end of the movie the democratization of jedi powers isn't because of the the the split the the the going away quote unquote of the light side dark side in fact at the end of the movie there is a clear light side and dark side still yeah that's actually a lot of people's problem with it was the the most interesting thing was rey and kylo possibly teaming up and making this binary a little more blurry but it was just like that a lot you know it didn't happen at all yeah it didn't happen and the and the thing he's that they might do something and then didn't i mean confirm no actually no no not at all and the thing he's so proud of instead of what you expected so and the democrat the democratization thing it's it's like the default yeah it's fine that's why and the yeah like what everyone said the democratization of the jedi powers it's already the default part in nope you have to have special blood apparently that's how it works even though everyone precise the jedi for not being able to level half children it comes from a special blood line that makes total sense anyone casual not just those descended from certain blood lines the thing that's wrong trilogy well no those tlj introduced that it's really cool that introduced that so cool like people aren't just mad that you like a film but are like annoyed that you defend it by saying shit that isn't true why are we doing that can't be that no the video what do we want from a star wars movie why are we doing this why are we fucking eating hot dogs on the street and you're wasting our time what he wants from a star wars movie is the last jedi yeah as i say he's doing his he's doing his preamble he's got to understand you understand tlj is good and then we will be able to understand the rest yeah it's time it's here's it's hi guys it's patrick willams it's four am time for your time for another why tlj is good video just wait for the day we want to stand that you're like okay i think man i was so into it all right okay okay then okay how long is even wearing that shirt like for film purposes oh stock footage of a city fucking amazing for about five months and then suddenly there was another store what is on the frame is this camera supposed to be dirty it's my mic was my my screen dirty yeah let's let me look oh this little this little gloops oh no that's just a that's just a big fishy in the sea no it's this is even a different he didn't oh my god he's using a different camera too so sorry guys the frame do you know the framing device of this film it reminds me of of this short essay thing that patrick willams is doing it reminds me of how i met your mother and flashback movies where he's talking about the breakup of her relationship it feels like that that doesn't that could be what he's going for you yeah we need documentary vibes like you're trying to ape the old documentary documentaries have information yeah they do which is kind of the key distinction some of them are kind of meaningful to what they're trying to say like this rax is like there's documentaries about the flat earth come on that was those were funny though i mean i mean real documentaries because the earth is flat what the fuck jay like if you shots of look at the shot the world is flat you can tell like they're going somewhere not just wandering around where are we patrick star wars so soon yeah it seemed weird solo a star wars story is less a star wars story and more a series of star wars answers to star wars questions that no one was really asking over the course of two hours and 15 minutes the movie lets us know how han solo got his last name yeah i can agree with this yeah yeah how he met chubaca how he met landau how he got the millennium falcon how the millennium falcon got that little gap missing at the front and what the kessel run is i think the movie itself is fine it looks great there's see like it looks great it's super dark i totally believe yeah once people hate how it looks i totally i totally believe like the thing is that you've already got all those details established star wars so if you made a good story that effectively utilizes like the kessel run and the fucking millennium falcon's gap then what you've done is you've utilized pre-established things to uh enhance your story but unfortunately that's not what they did they treated it like a tour around hey look and here's the next thing you recognize i was surprised that anybody didn't like in production be like you know the the han solo naming thing that's really cringe dude let's not do that yeah i don't think they know the word cringe in disney oh that's not allowed that's that's an illegal word your social credit disney score will be deducted negative thoughts yeah there's some fun stuff in it i can't make any movie with a train heist but if you're only going to make one star wars for every year or so why is this the one you choose to make this story could have been told as a novel or a comic book miniseries are honestly no they don't like that stuff they're reading you'll make your is there anything wrong was making it a film um maybe yeah i'd be suggesting it it took a space where something more interesting could have been is that what he said yeah i think it is yeah and i agree with that take good one patrick i mean i agree but like i don't think it's hard to understand why they did it they're like oh everyone loves han solo this will be a pure win it's like yeah money well yeah but like is he saying that he doesn't understand why they did it or are you saying that they shouldn't have done it because those are very different stances didn't you just one of them is well i can't can you just get back i can't do that and i will thank you one star wars movie every year or so why is this the one you choose to make this story could have been told as a novel or a comic book miniseries um i guess the good faith interpretation is still that he's using it as a rhetorical advice to be like okay why if like of all the good stories you could tell you choose this one why come on like i would i think that is what he's meaning here well yeah but maybe he would respond to the money argument is like come on any of them would have made money or something like that except this one well that's the funny thing is that the safe money making what didn't manage to get the money it was supposed to so series or just an article on wookiepedia but by making it a movie the message it sends is that star wars is more interested in its past than its future that it would rather fill in little gaps into i mean it's a prequel yeah i i don't think that yeah i wouldn't say that george lucas is more interested in star wars past than its future because he made the prequels like i'm fine with the ideas of prequels and what they do this one just seemed super unnecessary i've got to say i'm on team passionate here like uh i feel like what he's saying makes a lot of sense it's like it's going through being like hey remember the thing here's how it happened it's like the prequels themselves despite their flaws are interested in telling their own story like they would wear a solo is just a tour around things you recognize like yeah there are things that they do stuff in solo that's beyond just filling in origins and gaps if you list them there's like seven or whatever but that doesn't cover even like 10 of the film do you remember the scene where they do an origin for his gun calling not his gun for Chewbacca that's long i can't call you all of that you're gonna need some kind of nickname yeah what do i call you that's what i need like really in that gap i could never see how that might happen organically oh if i'd attribute anything wrong with this film to high concept like i think you can do some story from Han Solo's past i think that's fine it's just they the film's bad yeah obviously the plot line is filled with problems yeah but it is sort of obsessed with going over like hey remember this well they have like you know i don't want to be in a position where i'm defending solo but they have like a star wars mafia they have the train now we're defending solo or defending Patrick Willems i'm yeah i'm defending Patrick solo from Willems and new words so what i'm suggesting is that the film was trying to do some new shit despite being a prequel we can meme on it forever about all the stupid decisions it made to fill in past plots we can't pretend that that's the only thing in the film there's plenty of other things you got a plenty new places we meet new people we've got a brand new character in Han Solo's history that she's tied in with and you could be like it's tied with Darth Maul see they're obsessed with the past like i mean storyline wise in canon he's alive at this point and this is the story they've got for him so i don't know that that counts as doing obsessing over the old rather than telling something that we haven't seen yet like i don't know how we categorize that exactly because i agree the superficial like you're Han Solo that's your name now oh that's how he got the name i got versus what's Darth Maul up to then what's he doing like he's got a whole organization he's planning on stealing stuff from people and i don't know like i think it's all cringe but uh i just don't know that it's like oh you're obsessed with the past like this is a prequel of course it's gonna be past shit in it but like it is fucking obsessed with going through and like tearing like that's such a motive it's like such a blink motivation is it already focusing on nostalgia because of the reaction the old fans got to the previous movie which was The Last Jedi i think this movie was almost done by the time tlg came out so tfa like kind of stuff it's like hey look at this it is it's just a parade i mean i agree um because the sequel trilogy is a lot of like remember the ot while we stab it in the back it's like okay it's a very conflicted interest but uh yeah i think they would have considered this safe but there's still stuff in there that goes beyond a remember star wars yeah there is like a giant cthulhu space monster not gonna say that uh that was a good choice though it was a weird choice i i think it could have made the pre you like whatever i think i agree that you could make a good story out of this it's just that the way they told it was pretty bad but yeah but Darth Maul turned on a double light saber and it was so cool yeah even though it was a force projection right he turned on the double light saber that's intimidating hey i'm going to use this on you when we meet up in future if you don't do what i say okay it's like force lightning on her even though he's a projection because they could do that it's it's weird it's like if i was calling someone to try and intimidate them and i just randomly coughed to my gun to try and like really intimidate them like oh shit this guy is really means business this guy's fucking serious if you've just been holding a gun this entire course oh no no no no it i always keep it next to me i i always i've got two next to me but this one's internet nonsense this one's just more handy um i mean i picked it up like a couple seconds before i spoke because he knew what he was gonna say i see yeah i plan i planned ahead that's good i'm practicing safe trigger did the plan and all that good stuff some people call that a plot hole i think that's perfectly set up we already knew he had guns you know um that's true yeah it's consistent with his character i i i i proof the problem now is that since it was loaded now i have to take the magazine out and i have to put the crown back into the magazine and i have to read but you know it was all worth it it's all in service of a point which is fine hey right shoot your monitor do it shoot your monochist green shot or the bullets will come out of the screen no it's expensive and it's illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits but do it anyway boogie um oh no wait isn't it actually within city limits like you can't have a shooting range with no so if you have it you can have a shooting range within city limits but those are like special places you can't like go out and just shoot within city limits like a having a like a this gun store i normally go to arkansas armory they have uh they have an indoor shooting range there but that's like a special thing and you probably have to get like permits and they have to check it make sure it's safe and all that stuff but uh yeah you can't go plinking out in your backyard that that's a good sensible law i think that's a good sensible law yeah i'd say it's a sensible good law there there's a lot there's a lot of rules involving guns why rags how about why rags i have a question rags rags i have a question what if it's to for self defense yeah if you're if you're using it for a legitimate self-defense purpose you could yeah yeah you you could discharge it within city limits and that's you know if it's a justify defense situation then yeah you're all good they're not going to be like yeah but it was in the city so gonna have to write you up thank goodness you're still alive so you can pay this fine it's not like that would it be would it be a fine if you if you just just charge your gun right now yeah so i'd probably get in trouble with the people who own the building because i rent i would get in trouble with the police because i discharged a firearm in a residential area obviously there'd be a safety concern if it went out the window and kept going and hit something or damage someone else's property or hit somebody else or something like that and that would make it yeah then then that would be bad i don't know exactly what would happen in terms of would i still be able to own guns would i get you know that it depends but for something like that like if i just shot a bullet out my window yeah then i probably wouldn't be able to own guns anymore what i was gonna say about the whole lightning through the hologram we know you can use the force through it like veda does it and i was curious if Darth Vader was just be strangling someone and then someone on the other end switches the hologram off does it stop he's like you uh he's suck good work if you have the remote controller in your hand whenever he's about to do it and you're like yeah yeah yeah don't do it so it's the best protection the backstory then move forward i'm honestly kind of relieved it wasn't a hit because it saved us from getting a whole wave of prequel movies about young yoda and young tarkin and young dexter jetster i mean hey those things could be really good yeah they did also remember you you said you like so low he you seem to say some pretty nice things about it i thought you did yeah um i like it being something from the past doesn't ought to like the idea that if stars were a full real thing i'm sure yoda's history is probably pretty fucking interesting same for tarkin he's 900 years old yeah a lot of it probably happens on the people telling the story to make it fucking interesting i want to see how yoda and yaddle met exactly i want i guess and that uh is chat how many of you guys have i have about 20 um i already have it in 11 so that's all set i want to see judge are getting exiled for being clumsy we need that story oh yeah i do too i don't think what what did you do what did you do that was so clumsy you got exiled from a city well it's like is anyone here seen misfits i know more like no it's where um there's a there's a guy who tells a story in that where he um communities are stealing some pick and mix which do you have pick and mix do you know what that is no so that's like um just like at a store a buffet of sweets and you have a little on weight okay charged by weight you like you scoop them into a little bag you get charged by and he's like he's doing community service as a young offender and like the story he tells is always oh yeah i got caught for just like eating some pick and mix out of the out of the tub i was like everyone's like oh that's bullshit you wouldn't get a you wouldn't get you wouldn't get a community service just for doing that and then like you you see the actual thing happen in like a prequel episode where he gets some pick and mix and then he manages to escalate the situation where he gets called out for it to a point where he stabs the guy who calls out for it in the hat um and you're like oh yeah that makes i think i imagine jaja where he like he knocks over a vase or something and some guy is like hey uh could you pay for that vase and jaja uh throttles into death that's what i want to think happened it would add a new dimension to that would be a new dimension i agree it would make it complex that is so true i know i mean we've talked about a lot i think disney star wars should give j and i a million dollar budget and we can make a jaja prequel movie it would be genuinely better than half the shit you've made actually i'm cool with it being a jaja prequel movie like we'll put him into the sequel universe and we'll just follow him around he's gonna be it's gonna be really good trust me um well like i'm pretty sure like um like a goal if you're writing the sequel trilogy a goal would be to be able to bring back jaja and have the audience like think it's funny instead of like go what the fuck are you doing pretty sure the audience at least if you have audience are more indeed to jaja than any character from the sequel trilogy so they would be relatively happy to see him watch this he doesn't destroy anything i feel like i'm indebted to mother to poe than to jaja poe poe is meh poe is pretty meh yeah but like jaja is negative when it's negative i mean like yeah we'll do the sequels i don't know poe is like he'll be able to put a smile on my face to literally see him yeah yeah i'd like to see poe i'm like you know how like proud the actor is of his character because it is work during jaja uh like how he got here how disappointed he got when uh people didn't like the character he put so much effort into it i i only got his chance i just feel i i'm shocked he thought people would like it yeah well um and i don't revel in his misery but i'm i'm shocked that he thought people would like it i mean you just you see is uh you see him talk like interview about it oh yeah i really liked it well he was he but what if he did it all in jar jar's voice he's really trying to nail the the complex character that jar jar was he was staying in character interview in jar jar's voice right he's gonna understand why i said they didn't like some of my character yeah he wrote about his attempted suicide yeah that in jar jar voice would be something interesting i don't think the will is ready for that kind of just position nobody gonna be upset when i kiss him myself but yeah i he seems like a really nice dude yeah i'm sure he's probably a nice guy yeah yeah just sucks that i want to give him his i want to give him his uh his his chance in this jar jar redemption arc make a move drizzle jar jar veteran bring the voice down some pitching and make him like actually act in favor of some good decisions and we got it actually do interesting stuff with like jar jar's character seeing him like blame himself for his part in the rise of the empire like kind of you could have an interesting story fight me but can you pull that off with his voice though you could yeah it depends on what words he's saying that's the thing it's because the whole thing about it's not just his accent that's goofy it's what he's saying that's goofy if he you would think that his time in the senate being in that super cosmopolitan uh political kind of environment would teach him how to speak like a non imbecile so after years of that when he talks like a reasonable intelligent person then but he still has the accent i'd be totally fine with it if he was saying stuff that's really like why because yoda did the same thing yoda talks in a weird silly way but what he says stuff it's serious and it's meaningful okay i'm fine with that i'm fine if he if if that's followed up by you know misa thinks and then something that's insightful or interesting that informs his character in some in in some neat way i'd be fine with it starting with misa thanks it's like because people people like i feel um like underestimate what you can do with like something goofy like warley is pretty goofy but like you've got great payoffs in that like um warley is entirely composed say their own name and people who are like too obese to stand up that's that sounds like it should be goofy as fuck but like there's real emotional beats in that film i'm glad you will agree bigger the mosquitoes around there they just keep getting in i'm gonna need like have you got a shotgun you're gonna you're gonna need a shotgun to take out those things we could have gotten a movie on ironically like if um if we wrote that um i feel like we could genuinely make something that's better than any disney star wars film look how vane j is no no i'm not saying that it would be like really good i'm saying the of a low standard and i would put effort into my thing like i like you could reach um the standard above the disney star wars films by having standards and putting in effort yeah i mean that's the overall meme here is the with just jar jar i feel we could do better than what they gave us in the sequel trilogy it's like the less experience you have the more time and effort you have to spend on it the more revisions probably have to do like i i would probably if i was writing my first scripts i probably wouldn't feel comfortable like doing fewer than like 10 revisions and going over it again would you call the movie would you call the movie jar jar jar jar a star wars story or binks i think i don't know maybe just um how about jar jar has got a gun gun one man i don't know what's the name of the planet they were on like nabu sons of nabu a star jar story yeah like the scattered remnants of the species of jar jar in the galaxy something like that and they're all blaming him jar wars he's gonna be a series of movies where he's like in wars he's like the shocker zulu of his people and through bloody conquest he unites all the tribes and creates a mighty gun gun empire a parody that's based on the sequel trilogies where like jar jar it like it reveals that for like all of the sequel trilogies jar jar was screen like uh causing the events to happen in the sequels oh dude yeah we would write the shit out of that it would take ages but i'd love it i'd love to find reasonable ways for to put them in all of it it turns out palpatine was the real puppet it makes it was all jar make more sense with jar jar's inclusion he's a complex character top top gun gun jar jar gone of a card jar gone of a card the gun galorian i fucking like it fucking like jar jar and chained i like it jar wick jar jar jar commits a war cry because we're gonna get the worst out of the gun gun story gun gun lagun well thank you gun gun me said died before looks like jar jar um dances with gun guns the gun gun with the dragon dead it was a big this this high up the lion the witch in the jar jar gun gone with the wind the good the bad and the gun gun uh he's pretty good music pretty good it's just roaming around it's like never seen the gun gun on a horse before the hit because it saved us from getting a whole wave of people in movies me me's a thinking of ending things no that would be a 10 out of 10 jostle jar jar jar jar rass jar drac jar drac jar drac is it's too easy it's too good jaws nightmare on bink street oh some of these are good the gun guns of navarone fucking good very good the messiah jar but not for gun gun big trouble a little jar jar me said myself and i read that's pretty good how me submit your mother my jaw actually hurts from smiling currently it is i'm too i captured jarville young yoda young tarkin and young dexter jester i mean hey we could have gotten a movie about sexy sheave palpatine having kids we'll get back to that all right why i don't want to oh when i see the mandalorian is the best thing to come out of the disney era of star wars and shows why john favreau should be put in charge of this franchise i am just baffled like totally yeah me too man i'm not i'm not baffled i totally understand why people have that wrong opinion okay actually i agree with that it could be one of the best things to come out of disney i mean i guess relatively but no so the the whole full roster is the five rise of skywalker and the force awakens yeah five movies on the mandalorian is that our that's our pick i think roguan is probably better than the mandalorian i've not seen the mandalorian probably yeah i'm guessing i'll tentatively say that it is yeah because like roguan would have to be terrible to be worse than the mandalorian that roguan like holds up in a lot of ways careful that's a hard thing oh because because the mando is like three out of ten like it's really bad um but i would still say roguans probably better like i said i just don't remember enough of it we need to watch it again yeah but uh yeah um profound used well okay i'm not really that confused because i think i understand i just disagree the mandalorian is the kind of star war story we always said we wanted to see about a bounty hunter kicking ass through the galaxy meeting alien scumbags exploring new planets in a time we haven't seen before but at least for me it turned out to be a lot less exciting than i imagined this all gets back to it just this thing mandalorian doesn't shit all over star wars that's why people really like it and a huge deal of it is that it's that whether it's subconscious or they're fully aware of it mando doesn't destroy wow mando doesn't destroy characters mando doesn't ruin anything really um mando's relatively self-contained tracking fobs aside so you can easily just look at mando and be like all right these even though the individual stories are really poorly written and the characters are shit and there's a lot of problems um and there was confusing there it it's it's inoffensively bad it's not shitting on luke it's not destroying beloved characters or messing with the universe or the force that's why it seems so good and i think why it's so beloved okay you got to listen to all of this thinking the thing that he the reason that he thinks that mando is the best thing to come out of disney star wars is a bad take is he's thinking well like okay it's good but like clearly tlj is better of course that would be his issue but at the same time he says it's just not that exciting is his issue which is like all right is that is that this i think this is just an extension of him defending the last jedi that's just me i think i think i agree with jay imagine my shock if if the take was it's the second best thing behind tlj is the best star wars content he probably like yeah that's true um for disney zero anyway i don't know where i don't know what he rates like solo and tf and tfa and roguan so it said rags what about the introduction of force healing so i just said mando was a three out of ten so you said it was like self-contained and didn't damage the other like the other parts of star wars not as much i mean they're terms of release it actually introduced force healing before rise of skywalk it did too so yeah they set that up to sort of i think soften the blow um the way that they time that all out but yeah it's definitely a problem but it's not it is it does cause issues with the world like i have a whole section on how tracking fobs basically ruin every episode of star wars um uh so i'm just gonna try to be relevant how is how is mando a three if tlj is a three when mando is definitely better oh so so there we have ten right we have a you can't be a zero because that wouldn't qualify as a movie to be you have to be at least something so you have one to ten theoretical ten right there are thousands upon thousands of films yes hundreds of thousands so to fit them all in we're looking at high threes and low threes are all going to be called yeah yeah it's not exact they're not like all threes aren't exactly identical uh but they're still threes like mando isn't good enough to be bumped up to the what i consider the forest range because remember we only have 10 little pips on the scale of ours that we're using that whole out of 10 thing is is very non-exact right um so it's just so if we're using the simplest way whereabouts we place it yeah like if we were if we're turning this into an out of 100 you know you'd have tlj which could be you know like a 29 and you could have mando which is a 34 right and they'd both be three out of ten i would caution uh mando really is like we went through all of it structurally it's a disaster but it's just not as offensively bad it doesn't piss you off as much i would argue a lot of three is really low rags really low be careful like no it's a three you know we're pretty confident it's it's it's full of issues yeah absolutely it's not an episode that isn't riddled with problems it's only we're trying to be fair like that's that's just yeah and again people like it should be that tlj is a two it's like guys two we're looking at batwoman where basically nothing is fucking functioning anymore but the reality of the world is still intact and then one is where that gets broken too yeah that's a crisis on infinite earth where you pretty much just have the definition of a story essentially is all that's intact but it's otherwise nonsensical and yeah of course so people are asking like so high three is it 3.5 plus would it be the four then it's like no so high three would be 3.4 low three is 2.6 they're both bad okay point we're trying to make here so i don't know if this is a very objective scoring system i know it's just a standard it's out it's a something out of 10 it's a stand-in system it's not supposed to be yeah kind of like it's it's a quick way of us explaining in a very simplistic way just quickly kind of just what do we think of something well it's like the only way to give an objective like rating out of 10 is the only the only way to give like an objective rating at 10 would be if you very clearly define standards and how something meets those standards you can't just be like this is objectively a four out of 10 what are your standards that's on every time well it would be every time someone asks we'd have to go through every single individual problem with it and that's just not that you can't do that so we just simplify it by so well i mean it's logically possible but it's not realistically going to happen why because i got shit to do yeah we're already the longest people on the internet right so seems like you're just a lazy person right yeah my math so no 29 would be a three out of 10 because it's way closer to the three it's close to 30 if you're rounding or like we're not in this well you just what you're just if we went around then it would just then you just moved the fucking decimal point over but generally when people do it doesn't matter this is all pointless this is how this is dumb i'm not gonna entertain this conversation any further to what we want from start chill out so yeah the simplest the simplest version is just yeah there are threes that don't mean the they're of equal quality that's all we wanted to say or at least not from our perception something hits a three and something else hits a three doesn't mean they're exactly the same though i would caution that the vitriol for tlj is probably generated by not just its failures of writing but also the kind of failures they're very annoying makes you angry because that woman makes it very happy and yet it rates lower than a lot of things that we find fucking god awful it's like yeah because that's how bad it is um and like i said it's just a just a stand in just a quick guide where the thing slots in the spectrum and uh it's usually based on just how many and how significant problems we find with it um because someone was saying like surely tlj's reality doesn't uh work so that'll be a one it's like we're talking literally in in infinitisms they they stop the concept of time and space like tlj's not going that far it's dumb to make this theory work we're gonna have to ignore the concepts of time and space yeah uh yeah yeah and the mandalorian is exactly what a lot of people want it's about a guy who looks just like boba fat so he's basically boba fat and he seems like no he's an incompetent buffoon yeah but i was fucking idiot he's actually he might legitimately be retarded boba fat boba fat is one moment of incompetence and it's more so really bad luck that his jet pack is activated by someone slapping it with a spear thing stick you can't prove that boba fat isn't what what you can't boba fat's totally competent in empire no is no he's a what does he do that's incompetent oh he was a stupid hat oh that's fucked up that's the hardest thing it's not a hat please show some respect that is a lazy category hang on hang on hat definition i don't accept the uh i don't i don't accept the dictionary as an authority on the matter yeah i guess it's not a hat the oh no shit droid who looks just like ig-88 so it's basically ig-88 and they protect a little baby yoda who's like yoda except he's a cute little baby it's like a new paint job on the action figures you already have the mandalorian doesn't mess with the really important i don't agree at all with that i think they're just familiar aspects of something old but it's it's super it's totally superficial they function totally differently that might be what he means can you do this with tlj though you'd be like oh look at hard look at crate it's just half with a different paint job look at the space battles this is just space battles with a different paint job look at luke he's luke with a different paint job guys i think i know where he's going with this oh no it it's it's old stuff but i want the old stuff with new ideas or something like that kind of like what tlj i think that's the oh i think that's good oh my god this is just this is the tlj is good trilogy from williams right this like the first the first part of his trilogy was his was his video essay on tlj the second part was part one of this duology and this is the final part of the trilogy tlj is good actually yeah that that's that's that's a video essay right yeah that that's it important stuff touch any of the original characters or impact the grander story it's like watching a boba fett action figure walk around classic star wars play sets what is the difference between a boba fett action figure walking around play sets and a mandalorian walking around actual star wars places like how do you distinguish these two because he just seems like everything could be called that he's like oh it's a little figurine i guess he's saying that it's superficial and doesn't have much meaning it's just yeah it's my good faith interpretation words he's i guess he's trying to well it's you're actually trying to imply that it's just a markable thing it just means i just mean that you could probably do this with everything just saying yeah but i feel like i feel like he is making the point that it's just um it's just a superficial thing that it doesn't really do anything well i'm not sure i see all out of the box because um mandaloreans do exist they would be bounty hunting we're following one of them i don't understand why that would like there's nothing it's not contrived even um i would say i think he's he would argue that uh mando isn't subversive oh i mean my expectations were for a a really competent bounty hunter to to have his actions matches reputation and my expectations are certainly subverted i mean what's more contrived is the fact that mando is standing right where he is in this clip walking into the exact same place well then there you go do things you always wanted to say it's pressing those pleasure buttons that make you go ah yes this resembles that star wars feeling i enjoy pressing those pleasure buttons that make you go oh yeah but as long as it makes sense i'm fine with it i don't care if it's fan stuff if it makes sense in the universe like if it's reasonable to expect that kind of thing to happen i don't care if it's just there to push pleasure buttons all right it just got to make sense we're in a t-shirt and a blazer there buddy what's going on that's not me oh really it's kind of racist that you think that every dog wow unbelievable unbelievable looks just like you i'm so sorry i fucked up dude i thought better of you i will say that the shades aren't pixelated so that is interesting that i would that's my cousin um i'm a i'm a these guys rocks rocks the cooler rags how do you feel uh those penny loafers oh my god but he's not even practicing good trigger discipline and who's this loser wait who's 80s they're man me vice i think they're from the 80s someone said it to me man look at uh that guy on the left he's dressed like a lesbian something wrong with dressing like a lesbian now yeah it's dumb wow i bet you wear the crocs with yeah those pointy shoulders and your no socks and your slipper shoes because you're dressed like a lesbian if you are a lesbian nope uh no one can these rules are hard to follow but i'm glad we're getting them all out in this one e-fab yeah yeah as like a travelogue through the galaxy much of the show reminds me of the vader scene at the end of road one i said this in a video from two years ago that it's like an hd remake of a playstation one game i still don't um okay is that bad still i can't even get it though because like this is not something we've seen vader do before like he's four individuals but he's never slaughtered a group of people that yeah all this makes sense everything in the scene makes sense i guess you you could argue we saw in the prequels but like not vader rather like the nanakin i guess to steel man his point i think it would be saying all of this is stuff that uh was implied by the original star was already too far away from the point you could assume that all of this kind of stuff would happen all the time and do anything but what does that do with a ps1 remaster though because i think he's suggesting that it's just like it's it's the milk toast star dumb game oh they just made it a dumb video game like i don't know whatever you can steal man him into it'll just push him further away from that point of it's like a ps1 rebast i was like what are you like is he implying like they couldn't have done this in the ot showing vader slaughtering people's like of course they could it's a weird one come in it's stuff you recognize doing oh my god what that tweet that's wonderful hang on let's see if i can pull that one oh yeah i'll fucking retweet in that shit that's so true so um in in the boys season two before stormfront goes full nazi she's like um she's criticizing oh shit the boys movie or sorry not the boys movie the the seven uh movie is gonna be and she says she's like a bit of a thing about it but she's got loads of suggestions she wants to make and she's hold them all up and uh uh cj just put out a tweet say why do they have to make the character who cared about good writing a nazi though it's okay she likes memes look it's it's us is this show look how evil we all look seriously it's because i'm German that's fucked up man yeah well the truth hits what can i say does it hurt is this a spoiler i mean no kind of i mean i mean technically because you only learn that she's a nazi and slightly later she's what it's just cutie pie as well yeah it's it's oh yeah isn't that great what yeah don't you watch cutie pie she says to the kid yeah that implies that he's a he's a nazi nazi nazi yeah let's see what you expect but shinier and for a lot of fans that's what they want the mandalorian is digestible star wars comfort food which is not necessarily bad at all yeah i was yeah i was confused what my culture is gonna be all that i was like is that a problem i'm guessing he's saying it's not i guess he would yeah it's like it's not a problem but it's like milk toast is what i would interpret that as why would you pull milk on your toast yes i'm all for ambition and ambitious projects i value that quite highly but not everything has to be yeah i don't think he's saying that it has to right it doesn't seem to be quite significantly lesser because of it i i i think i think there's something i think something well executed that's just generic is i don't know is it is something that's well executed but generic less uh lesser than something that's well executed and ambitious the thing with that would be how often do you call something generic when it is well executed um we almost said that about uh hillhouse yeah quite generic like i remember i think um when we were talking about that i said that it's like it feels like the kind of thing that would originate the tropes but it's like it's new is the thing like you know when you watch the original trilogy you like see oh that's where all these fucking tropes came from yeah um like the hillhouse feels like that but the tropes already existed when it came out right yeah we still wouldn't uh well i value hillhouse super highly so like i don't know yeah i guess i do think it's fine to be generic if you're executed well like being ambitious and complex is cool too so my question is like is it lesser to be generic than to be ambitious i assume that's just an appeal to what we recognize we're like oh this stuff has come before versus it hasn't and that's not necessarily good or bad oh you being generic would you call hillhouse unambitious no that's a good point hillhouse is very ambitious um yeah and the concept i don't know if it's an ambitious concept that's just executed extremely well except for the end what would you describe as the ambitious part of hillhouse episode six is where i'd go as well as um like it's oh like on a technical level um yeah i was meaning to talk about writing but you could still make that oh yeah i agree i agree with it i agree episode six is technically ambitious it's a it's a neat woven fucking tapestry you cut our tapestry it's a very it's like a neatly woven fucking tapestry of character it's it's very ambitious with all of like it's a five-way like oh no sorry six-way seven-way points character dynamic um and it's like all of the different characters got relationships and they all interact with each other uh as they would and it's it's i mean how many how many relationships is that like seven times seven i wonder if let's consider no but it is it seven times seven relationships is what i'm asking i think it's less yeah it's um yeah i don't know it's less than that it's a complicated category about how we yeah how we talk about what is and isn't ambitious and where are you like i get what you're saying though they're all of these like there are so many very detailed and very neatly relationships with this huge ambit is like would hillhouse still be like would it be lesser if it was like two very well crafted characters who just you know who go through a similar story but it's you know it's just the two of them i imagine if you're spending that much time on just two with really good writers you could probably make it really amazing i guess i don't know i guess you know it's it yeah i agree with that but like then being a good writer is ambitious yeah that's true let's leave it that all right music be aware i'm hoping it's all royalty-free stuff i just like the the portrayal is like oh here we go the bad one it's like what do you mean the bad one where's his modem i think he's still there yeah put a cover there we can explore we can explore we've got the you've got the batmobile here you know we got uh some lego mini figurines i will stand um he's got a dictionary oh yeah of course of course um that couch can't decide if it wants to be a better nut maybe this is where he sleeps i don't know maybe but yeah i i don't know where the the i don't know if the modem's still on the floor not his bottle is dedicated to james he's got a speaker just that's propped up on the back end of the couch on the the back left there of the couch that's uh i think it works i suppose wait what's propped up on what the speaker oh yeah whoa i didn't even see that that's such a what that could fall on your that could fall on his head so easily yeah not where i'd put it but yeah what that's a strange place for that it was a hot space yeah be careful batteries we're trying to help you just put it near the batmobile put it on top of the vinyl player we know you don't use it yeah no i fully believe he uses that come on so that he can say that he uses it did he spill something on his couch what come no no he doesn't do that they're right there too that it's between him and the bottle he got some on his his couch bed oh no terrible it's high gel and then there's the rise of skywalker if you liked this movie that's awesome he's so sad he's got a babu-frick shirt on it's sorry but shut the fuck up in fairness it's good that he said that because uh john items didn't actually say it was okay to like rise of skywalker i don't think that's too most people don't know about this he's he buys all the merch but it's it's like the youtube thing your shirt has to be the merch to be connected i genuinely like to get like to start doing a thing where do i just get like a you're at the start over we miss like i love to do a thing for like where every mooch like just movie review i do i get like a generic white shirt and just like fucking get a sharpie and crudely draw on the logo of the film oh you just write the word star wars shirt on it yeah star wars shirt that's yeah you should do that that would that that's i think that would be funny i i would i i approve a shirt this is self aware cringe on it it's like the the fucking trope of saying you're allowed to like this movie is so uh dude what was the job i was made that was like early e-fab that was early yeah that's uh that's gen one memory people have been telling you it's okay to like stuff for so long they just have to keep saying it and then that's a classic like bedrill because we don't say it people will be like you know that they think it's like okay it's not okay to like things right yeah because they're fucking retarded they say that there you go who wish that i did you love the nazi every day though you're a nazi it's the same fucking thing yeah that chat nazi's bad all right you fucking yeah we said it nazis are bad and i'm german i say that i get executed tomorrow oh my god also good writing is nazi okay yes you fucked but watching this movie was the moment i realized star wars and i were not on the same wavelength anymore this is not a video about why i think rise of skywalker is bad if that's what you want just go to the top of the page it's shocking for me to think that this is only 11 minutes in i know it feels like a nightmare lifetime i'm just like i'm just absorbing the fact that he's treating star wars like it's one whole entity rather than just like a few films and then loads of slapped on editions by separate different people yeah particular creators it's like i'm not a fan of jj abram star wars is what he could say but yeah i mean you know he is acting like he's acting like star wars is an entity that moved away from i mean it is you know but it's characterizing that it is that sort of puts it in a frame that it doesn't really exist in because it's not like you know it's not like the decisions flow through from one to the next and then it ended up in a place he didn't like someone else fucking hijacked the thing he liked and went that is a point right there i agree and type rise up the search bar you'll get plenty of results jenny nicholson's video is pretty comprehensive but putting aside that i think in i'm sure it's very good she makes really good videos yeah she is very analytical and very accurate with her points and i yeah rise of skywalkers message anyone here have a good rise of skywalk new uh pio you made a rise of skywalk one right yeah of course he's the authority on the rise of skywalker yeah as it says in the dictionary conversation on it and story telling me this movie are subar that it's all plot and barely any actual story i want it's all plot and barely any story what does that mean all plot and barely any story i'd like to know how he kind of rises that yeah i understand what i think he's trying to say please elaborate go for it well it's like how every fucking scene in rise of skywalker is just and then another thing happens yeah that's the story story i'm saying i'm saying i know what i think he's trying to say he said it well can you translate that for the rest of us uh well like i assume that he knows not these who care about good writing and in a way that it does it excludes tlj okay no yeah i didn't think so the simplest way i've always thought of it is make sense of i assume he means and like it just it like there's no time to breathe there's no like with characters it's all just and then another thing happens and then another thing happens and then another thing happens oh moller is that a good deal quote yeah i'm doing it now it's because story's not a um some prestigious like label you get to have to me i'm like story it's a story or it's not i don't really like who um rise of skywalker is totally a story to say like it doesn't have story it has plot i would like i mean i don't want to be defending that movie but if you want to me to find you character stuff in it i can go to find you will building stuff in it i can or we find you thematic stuff in it i can it has all of the things i don't understand like oh it's just plot it's just things happening it's like oh yeah like go into fucking kanto bite and then getting caught and then finding someone to go out of there and then going back to the team you just left the accomplishing nothing i saw something really like is that be always trying to say i suppose i assume you're saying like most of it is kind of meh like we could we could be without it it doesn't really assist the overall star wars star wars landscape i was going with in terms of it being more plot than story in that it is more concerned with like beat to beat to beat uh i suppose causal chain events that go forward in the story as opposed to as opposed to i guess scenes that develop like scenes that aren't necessarily as plot relevant but still contribute something meaningful like characters discussing how they feel about certain things because again we don't like that there's not much of it in there i'll agree that's what he's going for but i don't know why you wouldn't have just said how it applies to one and not the other oh yeah i would have just i don't know why you wouldn't just say like there's just not much character in the film or something like that but we already know that he thinks there is because he hates it for how it changed uh tlj's characters and their trajectory so we it's a weird one but all right i want to talk about this for star wars as a whole this is a move i was going to mention that i saw um a youtube video very recently i'd like a couple of days ago i think and it was a fan made star wars episode 10 trailer called the resurrection of vader and like comment there was like a top comment on the video with 40 thumbs up like oh my god i really wish this was a real trailer and it made me really unhappy yeah and it was all click it was like rogue one clips of vader and then like clips of ray that from deleted scenes with her lightsaber editor like after she has a yellow lightsaber i'm like why do people want this can can you not can you can you not want these things please why no stop please this is a movie that has no new ideas and nothing to say every time it had to make a decision whether it's what should be the main conflict how the heroes should be rescued or what the final scene should be it had the same answer just do a thing we've seen before uh they did force healing to escape a situation yeah it's funny you can just say this about tlj just the other way around they've introduced resurrection look pretty hot what's something um you can do this with tlj though just the literally the the opposite we're around every time they get into a situation oh what's gonna happen oh the film just goes oh just do something do the last thing the audience would expect it's like that one isn't meaning more meaningful than the other just by virtue of that these arguably things are more cynical if you can expect it to a degree how a death star destroys in the thousands in a planet controlled by palpatine's resurrected clone thing like how is that all like we've seen this before i feel like though that um like bringing back palpatine and bringing back death star lasers even if it's a different context is sort of like hey well but this highlights the issue whether or not it's new isn't the problem like the idea like oh we've seen palpatine before but we haven't seen clone palpatine before we've seen death stars and star destroys before we haven't seen death star destroys before i should be like i don't care if we've seen it before it's more about what it is yeah yeah i agree and how they did it yeah the previous movie ended with a new status quo kylo ren killed the wrinkly old bad guy he was already in fucking charge for the first two movies except one dude who could say hey don't do that thing but he never did anyway so whatever yeah he went from not not a he went from most arguably a lateral charge yeah and when i say mostly in charge between 99 in charge to 100 in charge it's like whoa what a change i on the throne became the supreme leader of the first order and was now the main villain cool right no the movie ditches all of that puts kylo right back to where he was two movies ago and brings so he didn't change so what is he suggesting that he was supposed to be a villain like hardcore he is the villain because i was supposed to say like he kind of is right until Han Solo's memory goes to him he's saying that he's supposed to be the the main antagonist of the film being sad about being a villain doesn't make you not a villain true i guess yeah he's just sad that the emperor was brought in instead of it being focused on kylo that's probably what he's saying yeah it's just nobody could take kylo seriously as a main villain i'm sorry jj going oh but i had like this plan where kylo is redeemed and overthrows his master but jj i'm sorry i am jj um ryan killed the guy i wanted to do that story with uh i guess i'll just introduce a new one real quick well he could have brought back snook and i think he was just like fuck it if i'm going to bring someone back mails will be palpatine yeah killed bad guy on a throne from the original trilogy but didn't that guy get thrown down an energy shaft and a dude dude you're actually appealing to things making sense really so movie about space was i never get like i'd never get tired of this when it's their thing they like they start appealing to just conventions of course sense and logic yeah it's fucking classic explode then the whole space station he was on exploded yeah the force get over it well that's ridiculous wow they say the movie is clearly explained the film's rules that why are you taking this so seriously it's just fan stuff yeah it's just for kids wizards you can't do this patrick you can't do this to us get into like tiny molecules i guess that just doesn't matter he's back with no explanation oh someone appears someone appears with no explanation wow that would be weird yeah i can't imagine criticizing someone important just showing up randomly for no yeah yeah no i don't it's a weird one doesn't matter i grew up patrick anyone complaining about things making sense it's just an idiot uh i mean we don't wait sorry esmarman it's so confusing if only come on this is so blatant oh it's fine standard exists now it pulls me out it's fine patrick just like a film and no standards so a year ago not necessarily to this day but close we covered patrick telling us that it was a space was a film for children and now he's telling us was that two years ago fuck that was two years ago and now he's telling us that um it sucks that this film doesn't make sense compared to tlj or the the aot wow that's so close to like a pilling but it's not yeah the only this was he's always been like this it's just stuff that he likes and stuff he dislikes he will pull them out respectively yeah he doesn't have consistent standards but like this like that that could be the story of him of him getting repelled maybe um patrick you want to come on uh to efab and talk about how about the rise of Skywalker is we'll welcome you he's not gonna do that he could talk about how bad it is how much doesn't make sense do it damn you're just gonna die again because people liked that one okay so how do we conclude Ray's journey of self-discovery i guess we're just gonna so that is generous um oh hang on wait so what's what's going on here what is this i'll explain i just got that uh signed by odin on twitter is this why you you're holding a sack of tizms oh my god that's super cool yeah that's awesome hacked boom boom i like that it's door now that i just wear this shirt all the time good like i was hacked and like you're a hacker slasher oh oh big smart his themes is it just body parts in your bag of tizms i uh i think so i hope so looking scary bro eat something to eat yeah that is that is you're gonna you're gonna swap to it just for the stream you're gonna uh oh my god as soon as i have to take it away reveal that she related to that same wrinkly old bad guy and that explains how she can do all the stuff she can do but doesn't that totally undercut her growth from the previous movie as no she didn't have any what growth what growth actually what growth yeah what growth like what do you mean i don't know that she wasn't related to anyone um and then she cried and she just didn't inform her decisions or character yeah that's right i mean they are they think about this movie that doesn't exist and i was just like like point to the thing they're just like it's in my head leave me alone no as well as it seems no that doesn't matter all it's really important here is that we have a name that we've heard before okay how do we save the day during the final battle we bring back lando caudasian how do we conclude kylo rent arc of redemption we bring back han solo for the final scene of the entire nine movie saga how do we end this we're gonna have rey go to luke's childhood home call herself rey skywalker even though she only knew luke for a few days i mean he's spitting facts i don't know yeah i i agree he's not substantiating any of this stuff though as well yeah we agree with the concluse conclusatory statements i don't think it's describing could have been amazing right like he's not something like yeah if you i mean i guess maybe if you ignore tlg as well i'm not sure like but of the entire nine movies can do but doesn't that totally undercut her growth how does how does the battle get the end get they bring back lando will let kylo get redeemed they bring back han how does uh and then rey goes back to luke's family home you know like if um if that had been preceded by two good films they bring back saying describing could have been fucking incredible like all of those things could happen in a good film i just want to say i don't understand why williams is so mad about a movie intended for children yeah it's kind of weird i'm alone yeah it's really weird it's just really strange you're just into cut that it's like this doesn't make any sense well you're taking a space movie for children too seriously you could really like uh you i i assume someone could make a really good like uh patrick williams versus patrick williams 2018 patrick was a 2020 patrick yeah man fucking do it i want to share that patrick williams do not represent the opinions of patrick williams i just like he's applying this level of fourth or a conclusion about uh trust but he would never do it for tlg because he just likes it so much like and his twitter buyer should be opinions of my own maybe my opinions aren't my growth from the movie as well as its core themes nope that doesn't matter all that's really important here is that we have a name that we've heard before okay how do we save the day during the final battle we bring back lando calories yeah i see what you mean no check is like yeah that is uh it's stupid but that alone isn't stupid the the specifics of it are stupid that um yeah that's just that's literally just you know oh how do we save the day and i the fucking oh luke and veida have a light save in the entire history of the saga of star wars there wasn't a worse scenario for people to come and help people in and what i mean by that is you're you're you're a you know planet owner oombak sehaya or something like that and they're like lando's like i need your help i need your squadron of blah blah blah to come with us to fight on hexagon like what is it it's a planet where you cannot hyperspace because of the dangers of the the atmosphere and you can't even tell which way is up and there's a series of about a thousand ships that can all blow up planets individually and thousands upon thousands of tithe fighters and our team is getting slaughtered there we just need you because otherwise we're probably gonna lose i'd be like um gonna say no on that one gonna decline uh but i like you lando and then he's like you like me so much you'll come anyway you're like you're right and then everyone does because lando is so cool there's no arc to earn it either it's this stuff all fucking happens off screen it's like there's a line there's a throw a line about lando and then um the fucking final space battle has this big swelling music as if it's earned some big payoff where everyone comes to save the day and it's like who are these people you know it's like it's like in uh it's like in a new hope where han comes back to save the day and just that's his arc and like the film earned that but it's just like imagine if han you know was barely in the film and then you had that moment did they only met him briefly in the cantina where they went to someone else to eventually drive them but he was like i overheard you talking i decided i'd help in the end one of the lines halfway through where like uh uh luke says to three pio three pio see if you can send a signal to han and that justifies it it's like oh so meaningful where yay but no like the the fact the fact that lando comes to patrick criticizes this by saying lando saves the day in the final fight that's fine that that could be good if we agree with the conclusions we're just gonna let him sort of slide on these which like mm-hmm i well i could envision many 10 out of 10 sequel uh episode nine ending involves lando saving the day in the final no because it was made by jj abram so it would have been bad anyway not made by jj abram's made by jojo binks made by uh who would be the best currently working direction to do it sequel jimbo pagans i agree rusa brothers could probably do something if they try really hot if they try really hot what about edgar right that could be cool could be cool or not did he write the kohanato trilogy i'm pretty sure it's him and simon peg and someone else i think were the main people involved in writing it how do we conclude kylo ren's arc of redemption we bring back han so we're the final scene of the entire nine movie saga how do we end this we're gonna have ray go to luke's childhood home call herself ray skywalker even though she only knew luke for a few days and then recreate the most famous shot from the original movie isn't until j2 saying yeah also i i assume you're fine with han being her father figure even though she knew her him for hours yep yep stay away from thinking too much about the other ones okay but isn't tatooine the place luke hated and wanted to leave you can't do this to me patrick you're bringing up like arguments when you never do it for the other ones it's just like uh yeah where is this where is this patrick williams yeah well we need him was it was chad william williams when deal j was coming up hmm isn't leah spent a few days as a slave to a giant slug and what's ray's relationship to this planet she's never been to hey that doesn't matter if the audience recognizes it it's good enough what jj abrams does throughout this entire movie is mistake nostalgia for storytelling he thinks just because the audience has an existing emotional connection to a character or a location or an image then all you need for a successful movie is to string a bunch of those to you agree patrick that it was successful he's identified jj i mean yeah this is the the jj abrams take i think everyone has another it's star trek into darkness all over again remember in that movie when benedict cummerbatch reveals that he's con and the audience gasps because we know who that is but then we realize that here kirken spock don't they've never met him before that name means nothing to them and so the momentary emotional rush because we recognize a reference immediately reveals itself to be i would say that's um they knew that when they made it that these guys don't but we do and that is you can make that dynamic work the audience being aware of something that the characters are not dramatic irony it's a common device because i think the problems with into darkness are going to go beyond whether or not the characters knew who khan was when they met him i think the criticism that so i was just gonna say that like star trek fans fucking despise this movie from what i understand um well i don't like it and i like dng but i don't like the original oh shit did you say you don't like the original series oh no actually i actually misphrased that i don't like care about the original series all right like i don't i'm not invested in it i don't i i don't dislike it i've just never really given it oh my god someone in chat just said is there an efep stream archive yes i am so glad you asked i don't even know if we've had that question before it's it's in the description check it out there's 103 episodes other than this one you'll be covered well there's way more than 103 episodes well of this particular format mainline we have a bunch of spin-offs but there's 103 or so main spin-offs are more successful somehow than the main podcast people hate more on the way as well more on more on is on the way we recorded moobla wait what are we let's talk about the thing we recorded um i don't see why not it's just that telling people about it makes them perpetually invested in when it's going to release which i don't have a date for so i'd usually make it a surprise until it's completed and ready to go and almost has a date to go that's when i like tell people about us them that they don't get sad you hear that chat i don't want you to be sad i want you to be sad we've uh wait well we've mentioned torchwood like a million times i'm assuming you're not referring to that uh let's go with i am referring to that all right yeah torchwood will be out what christmas yay you'll finally see myself oh yeah i forgot about that is it messle is the fourth in that one i can't remember it was 12 years ago i was gonna say it's actually gonna the only video that'll be released out of continuity in terms of the format unless i re-render it which i can't be fucking bothered to do so was that a really weird episode of tv yeah for some reason i got dragged into it yeah i was an ex alien yes i remember that you guys will have fun with that that's that's a funny it's like a 30-minute video i think but we're just uh yeah we're good it's a good one it's gonna be one of those even more than the other ones where watchers like i don't remember anything of this i don't see i just recorded it like two years ago when it's coming out guys if you thought the holder would ever broke out it it's a darkness like your death well that's probably gonna change some stuff oh i forgot we did that be empty so imagine if return of the jedi had ended with luke traveling to yoda's home planet wherever that is to bury yoda's cane and the final shot so very meaningful i would love it yeah it was him looking off at i don't know the ocean or something every one of the audience would be like what the fuck is this i don't know but i don't think that would be a reaction i think they i think they'd probably be like i think that i mean they would be they'd be meaning there you know it would be it would be weird i would be like why are we focusing so heavily on yoda's influence rather than everyone's um because of course ben you'd think maybe ben would be there as a ghost being like hey we did it and then i would just be like i feel like they're focusing a little too hard on yoda rather than everyone's efforts but at the same time it wouldn't be like out of place like ray and fucking tatooine was i i i think it can make a lot of sense he spent a while with yoda yeah and he died with like yoda died with him i i i also everything he's been listening so far was the problem for him was that the refer to something we know and then it doesn't make sense this would be like a whole new thing without any reference i think the problem there would be oh how did he know where his planet is i guess or if it just goes oh yeah that would there would be some mechanical issues but like the important part being what yoda means to luke versus what luke means to ray it's like there's two completely different relationships yeah because they train forever together so if luke got trained by yoda yoda wasn't doing any training was like five million years old so luke slowly sinking into the swamp would be great what he just stands there it's the least things that the credits come up we're like what happened help what's this place why is that the final scene and that's essentially what rise of skywalker is doing if you strip away all the nostalgia for the audience you're left with a meaningless scene for the characters the one identifiable theme rise of skywalker has is the idea that we're not defined by our family legacy and that we can choose a new family so why does the movie end with ray who has just wanted to belong somewhere her whole life alone on a desert planet she has no connection this is she's alone in that moment but she's not like he's never gonna speak to anybody again i guess he's talking about it in a like a visual filmmaking sense like we should have it end with her being surrounded by the people she's chosen to be with or something like that but i mean luke and lay are they just saying it probably would improve it if like poe and fen were with her but like not really meaningful relationships who did we lose i see what you mean yeah we can warrior oh shit he's gone oh now he's alone no thematically speaking he is was never really gone we can skywalker yeah we can skywarrior perfect time to underline that theme and show ray together with the new family she has formed over the trilogy but the movie i don't disagree with that really i just it's just funny yeah because of the relationships being so shit yeah yeah nothing to these meaningful relationships we built up someone says she's not alone she's bb8 well she had the old lady the old lady was her mom i guess maybe what the fuck are you ray skywalkers like that means nothing to be a young lady what the fuck are you i don't fucking give the film ended with um with the the old lady going who the fuck are you and then she's good lady just goes okay that would be better you say it now my name is ray ray and she was no first name's fine don't need anything he is more interested in giving us that empty nostalgia hit and what makes it even weirder is that according to multiple reports abram shot an ending that had ray together with her friends and then he scrapped it friend right to the end he chose nostalgia over story rise of skywalker is surprise you yeah i don't yeah i duh to see that original ending just out of curiosity if anything yeah maybe it's better sure it's not about any ideas it's not about the characters it's only about star wars what was it i still don't really know what you mean by that like it's about stars and i it's no yeah there's problems with what he said because categorization issues with what he just said there's technically it's all gonna always be stars there's always gonna be something that you can be like see they're just trying to be like oh look at us with star wars stamp it's about star wars rather than the characters of star wars feeling okay exciting about star wars originally was the way it combined so many different influences westerns with samurai movies with pulp sci-fi adventure rise of skywalkers only influence is other star wars it's just recycling itself turning into a human centipede cloaked in jedi robes star wars is supposed to be a skywalker looking out at the horizon yearning to actually i mean i feel that way about the whole sequel trilogy not just rise of skywalker so yeah yeah that started way earlier to go out there and have adventures and new experiences but over the past couple of years star wars has felt more like if luke had just stayed inside and played with his toys george luke said it himself in disney ceo bob eiger's recent memoir he writes that when luke saw the force awakens he felt betrayed not because it deviated of course yeah of course you shout on the characters in the universe yeah yeah i would i would feel betrayed too if i get yeah it's shitting all over my stuff you literally made feces all over my work it's like damn no but what's her face said he'll protect she'll protect the characters of george luke us right guys we'll protect your idea of the word protect is different from everyone else's i think yeah kill for you just sent me a dm saying had hope led to just killed babe wouldn't everything not work the finale yes okay the both the payoffs yeah i guess the i don't want to go too much into it but i'm guessing she'd be like ah the the footage will be released if i'm dead or not i i can't remember she said that or not but i'm assuming he's referring to the other part of it as well had homeland have been there when stormfront was doing it to them sorry didn't mean to deviate go back to whatever you guys were talking about your little little children's show whatever it's almost 6am so i think i'm gonna hang out for a little bit what the fuck it's like it's three hours it's been a couple of minutes the hell it's like a blink of an eye it's been 16 seconds what are you talking about right there it's just 16 minutes jesus christ 16 minutes and the point he's going to make is that they should have stopped with the last jedi approach that is what he's doing god damn it you're so predictable pal blend we never know if you leave after 15 minutes no i'm calling it i am confident in calling it that maybe maybe just stick with new ideas maybe explore themes and subversion yeah there should be shitty new things i think he's gonna go there i and i just hate that he's going he's just he can't accept that the movie he likes destroyed the franchise he loves apparently like it's just so how i know like he's at the like what you guys said earlier the things he's talking about the complaints about the rise of skywalker we could easily have applied it to the earlier movies right he just doesn't do it so it's like he had it he's almost at the cusp of the door but he doesn't want to open it or he can't find the handle something like that where's it yeah like oh he's just trying to push at a pull door yeah yeah exactly yeah um well that's a good metaphor jay yeah do you want to do do you want to plug that sexy channel of yours yes my sexy channel is weekend warrior the one with the cute guy and not the frog because the frog is extremely political don't do that don't go to that saying look for the political one is what is what you're saying yes exactly the one with the red shirt because you know the reds are like the rip right or something or something and it this was fun hanging out and as usual williams can't really just get over the last jedi he's still simping for the last jedi take it to the grave i mean it seems like he's making progress sort of you know a little he's like he's come a long way it's a small way but it's a long way it it's the most convoluted uh disingenuous defense of the last jedi this is the impression i'm getting from this video so that's it guys uh good hanging out bye chat bye guys good night good morning wherever you are take care subscribe to weekend warrior thank you good night we can't find the exit it's okay he'll get there eventually it's the big red button doesn't want me to leave big red button you can do it there you go so um i will be right back there is no reason why you guys cannot continue though and i will i will listen to it as i go and sort something out to make sure i don't miss anything all right how long will you be like 15 minutes possibly at most all right that's the lord ever left any you should hang up so the rest of the stream doesn't get to you that's true i could do that i could add stream until i'm back but i trust you guys will be able to handle whatever perspective he he decides to roll out i'm sure you've got this yeah all right i think we'll uh we'll see in a bit be right back you know i'm thinking like i'm thinking like what atrick williams based on what he said in this video compared what he said before he is a complex character he's very complex i couldn't begin to try and make a diagram of all of his thoughts in his journey because you never know like at least with a lot of people like um let's say you have prequel fanboys you at least can identify that yeah their blind spot is the prequel movies right it's really simple you could at least understand it but with him you have no idea there's just no rhyme or reason to what he finds acceptable and not acceptable i'll never know if he's gonna like something or not last year i good no i think generally the more pretentious something is the more likely is to like yeah maybe yeah like the more miserable it makes you feel the more annoying so that's but we can't put it on stream because mupler you have a take on joker i don't remember oh yeah he can catch up when he comes back for that the only way for us to put images on green now would be to render them into a video upload that and then put that video in the watch together i'll stop yeah that would be um that's true we could put anything on screen we want that's true oh my god you know like like on youtube you could you could take videos of like horses fucking right then that's all right but if you draw two horses fucking you're not allowed to show that really oh yeah it's it's like pornographic art but you can hang on to what come on silence is cancer you can't be doing this yeah what are you talking about jay silence for me oh i don't get how that works i don't get how you're allowed to have like literal video of something but not drawings of it yeah well ballers left for two minutes we're always already talking about horses fucking so let's continue with patsy billums sounds like my streams like what's your favorite kind of boxcock i don't i don't know the are there different colors like colors i sure let's go with that black oh i mean i i guess if i had to choose maybe i love them all equally jay yeah see that's the correct racist designed to trick you up no but the real answer is black so let us continue characters but because in lucas's words there's nothing new there's nothing new to well let's back up a bit before we had our thing because i'm curious what the context of him saying this is so 1619 saw the force awakens he felt betrayed not because it deviated from his plans for the characters but because in lucas's words there's nothing new so george lucas continues to confuse me i will because we assume a moment ago a very reasonable assumption that he hated tfa because it shits all over his stuff it ruins han it ruins the world building of what happened after the return of the jedi he's probably fairly aware of generally what the eu and the expanded canon had been um i would assume that would be why he didn't he didn't like it but i guess it's because he thought there was nothing new and i totally understand that they didn't i guess in george's mind because they didn't expand what he started he gave them this gift essentially they sold it but he gave them this opportunity to expand and grow star wars and that's what they did with it and it was basically a repeat a shitty remake of a new hope that's what disappointed them yeah so yeah all right yeah i still do think they should have gone with this original rags is wrong about the atst and ship problem no i'm not you do not want to defend that i promise you i don't problem oh i guess he's talking about an episode four or how the why why didn't mando in the razor crest just blow up the atst in a single shot from a spaceship are we talking about mando now yeah someone brought it up like you're fucking wrong about this do do not defend that you cannot i've heard the defenses of it they're all trash don't do it if you're gonna die on a hill for mando don't let it be anything in episode four okay carrying on die on the cuties hill go die on the cuties hill it arguably makes more sense i guess i don't even know no don't die on the cuties hill but disclaimer don't do that it was important to him to present new worlds new stories new characters and new technologies i must have fucking love the hyperspace kamikaze even in the in the in the hyperspace tracker i want to help george lucas would rate all of the different i would i you cut out after different all of the different sequel movies like i wonder which george lucas considers the best and the worst also i wonder which he considers like the worst and the most worst i would be very curious to get his opinion yeah because i i couldn't hazard a guess yeah i could i could be like oh if he said like oh tlj is my favorite because it does the most stuff i believe that this is an enigma to me i don't know like i don't know what he'd go for i feel like it's probably because he made he partially made the ot and then he made the prequels so you just don't know what's going on um so maybe then he special editions the ot and then he made the prequels yeah um i would guess i would guess that of the the three sequel movies i i i think he would like tfa the most it might be might be rise of skywalker because it's got the most like campy prequel shit in it and he loves that like that's what he wanted so but i don't i don't think that the campiness of the prequels was intended to be campy i think george lucas meant that to be like a like a theatrical kind of style i think tlj maybe could have fooled him i think it might be tlj i don't think he would be okay with the luke skywalker a bit i would hope he wouldn't be yeah i mean but you never know that's the thing because you have no idea well i don't know but but if if someone out there has a secret recording of him talking about which one's his favorite please send it our way i would be extremely interested as interested as even more interested than ben shepiro's ranking of stars yo is so wrong about everything in star wars he doesn't even know e you law yeah yeah make it a copypasta theos critiques are poor seriously though the e you can go away just find the films whose opinions of yeah equal trilogy would you be most interested to say that one more time whose opinions of the sequel trilogy would you be most interested to learn um it might be lucas um if anyone living or dead living or dead hitler Stalin i just i but pro honestly it's probably george lucas um he would probably be the number one person that i would want to sit down with and listen to and have him explain what the sequels did to him you know what did they made him feel positive negative did he feel betrayed by disney which i'm almost certain he feels betrayed but even then why did he feel betrayed yeah so i think the why is much more meaningful yeah i would love to pick his brain about it yeah i like i know i always said he didn't like tfa yeah we just covered that in the video but um yeah someone said apparently he made the most i don't know if that's true but i could see it being true and over the past years that's exactly what star wars hasn't done we all know george lucas loves it when stories rhyme he's he's saying there's not new characters not new stories not new technology well i i'm gonna back it up second time i just want to make sure that i'm only george lucas quote that anyone knows it's like poetry it rhymes and jar jar is the key to all this jar jar is the key to all this new characters and new technologies and over the past couple years that's exactly what star wars hasn't done we all that's so interesting how could you say that that like one of the biggest problems with star wars now is the introduction of loris shattering new technology yeah things how things are established to work or how things worked prior and the reason the old characters are basically sacrificed is to prop up the new characters and to hurry them along in their quasi journeys um and the i i'm baffled by the statement i can't see how it's possibly true is this like a tacit admission that the new characters and such like aren't able to hold any weight because he just looked straight past them to all of the old things in the system that would be something that he might say in an off-handed way like here but he i bet if he pressed on it he'd try and go back on it but i could but but patrick williams he did he's not the person with the presence of mind to be aware of that sort of thing he's too busy buying hot dogs and shooting himself down in downtown brooklyn or whatever beach with the stones like i meant earlier when i said less you need he needs to put less work and random shots of him at the pier and more attention to like his script and what he's actually saying and cross referencing it with what he said in the past and trying to get that to align and if it doesn't explain why he's changed that's another thing i'd love to know how often how like how long he spends on a given script roughly speaking and just his process in general five to ten minutes um yeah i i'm thinking about we saw it in the last one where he goes into the woods and he travels around and this one he goes to a he goes to a pier he goes downtown to a hot dog joint he goes to some bar randomly and he gets the permission of these random people or maybe they're people he knows to film them for his youtube video like that's got it that that takes effort right you have to go out and actively do all of those things you have to get the camera you have to travel to the locations and i imagine in brooklyn i guess he's in new york someone said it's not all that easy for him to and someone say well you could tell by the skyline that no i can't tell the sky no um but that takes work and effort in planning but what he says is worthless yeah it's completely thoughtless i was retained i was listening to that and i'm baffled by that point that patrick would even want to entertain it for a second no new characters no new uh technology it's weird it's bizarre patrick he's just like uh he's like a rubik's cube that's all jangled up it's strictly it's strictly talking about tfa right not the new characters no new story no new technology because well i'm gonna say that regardless uh he's wrong but it's more interesting if it's just tfa because i guess patrick considers like kylo to be shit until tlj and i i don't get how he wouldn't consider him a new character like we would even give them that it's like yeah they're new characters they don't very well realize but they're new characters um technology for tfa you got uh i'm supposed tracking is not in it um what technology in tfa star killer base could count right yeah i'd say star killer base is new technology absolutely um what else is there i feel like i'm missing something is a new technology other than that um i i would say that's the big one that comes to mind um it's big enough though um i guess it just we it's not new but it's new ish on an old thing the the little the little like fuzzy stick that blocks the lightsaber right oh those kind of yeah they did they had the little vibro electro mace staffs yeah um we have the force powers of um stopping a laser bolt in the air i'm cool i haven't seen that before bb8 chat i was saying chat should be good at this bb8 hypostates base tracker that was in tlj you fool the baton they said that was in tfa that was the actual thing someone said well i'm gonna assume that they listed it here i'm gonna assume that they just well regardless uh i guess i'm interested to see how this progresses because i can't see how patrick could agree with with george like at all but um someone said phasma armor so it doesn't get confirmed that that is actually armor um because stormtrooper armor assumed stormtrooper quote unquote armor it's really just more of a very impractical uniform but uh that only blocks stuff in tlj i don't think it's in the force awakens that it reflects a shot yeah unclear on that one um but apparently it is from one of that with those naboo ships it's made out of the stuff from that so technically it's been in the the movie even though that thing doesn't doesn't reflect blasters so well dude if it did do that like surely it would be on all ships or at least oh yeah that's the thing it it's even in my mando script like i'm baffled by all of the things we see are clearly blaster resistant how nobody wears armor because we just have to have our baddies you can one tap i'm guessing the maybe blasters from like rifles and pistols aren't the same as blasters from ships maybe they're more powerful or different i don't know maybe but you think the plating would be way thicker in fact i'm almost certain it would be i'm confused by the suggestion that there should be new technology in a star wars movie though when it's like the star wars universe is fairly clearly established or like stagnant technology i i don't agree uh the reason is that i don't because this is actually almost something i say verbatim in my um my the my video on mando my script is we have about um like 20 something hours of mainline star wars movies the idea that we've seen all the technology in the universe is yeah it's highly unlikely that we have so i'm fine with the new things being introduced with the assumption that it's been around all along we just haven't seen it yet it's the the problem comes in with of course the yeah does it solve create problems it's a new combination of existing technologies like yeah yeah your design should whatever like if a faction just had teleporters we'd be like dude oh yeah i feel like that fucks up a lot of stuff it's like no only these guys ever used it you're like what someone asks why did naboo fighter pilots wear goggles in space and in a cockpit that's a good question that's a good question um that could be could august just standard gear and that is actually useful for an atmosphere um yeah potentially it would be useful for an atmosphere if the cockpit was damaged however you would need to breathe so i the idea that you so i would say the guy if i was going to be super stretching it um i think it's just an aesthetic thing but i think if i was going to super stretch it i'd say that it's actually like a heads up display on the inside of the goggles right and it's linked to the ship i feel like that's writing the film for it that is it absolutely is yeah um though yeah you could have that be the case in like a newer edition just like yeah that's what it was the whole time you just couldn't see it from the angles that they were shown yeah um like that like the tie pilots uh the inside of a tie fighter doesn't have it's not like pressurized or anything like that that's their life support system that they wear individually um on them so that explains that that's the explanation for why they have the helmets and the tubes and everything um so yeah maybe they have just really aggressive ac yeah yeah yeah like fuck it's cold in here i don't know george lucas loves it when stories rhyme but there's someone said it could protect their eyes from sunlight and stuff like it's designed for this so it looks like it's clear though star war i mean like star wars space battles are always treated like in atmospheres like in so many ways like they all have a clear like a lot of them have a clear up and down a lot of them have i mean like all of them have sound i can believe i can believe in a clear up and down though um it would i think it would make sense that navigation systems would be standardized to have a direction that ships would be able to meet each other in that the ships would kind of auto use because remember like um like there was an autopilot on anacons uh fighter in the phantom menace you know that would probably follow a designated agreed upon up and down for navigation systems and having those be standardized would be important for a galaxy but do you think it would benefit ships to be the same way up or do you think it yes just like yeah it would um so almost all of ship interactions in the star wars universe would be in a for friendly reasons almost always for like commerce and stuff like that and if you're going to dock with other ships and if you're going to meet them it would probably be standard protocol if for any other reason just it'd be simplicity and for decorum reasons that you're both oriented the same way because ships are designed with an aesthetic and you want to be on the same you know quote-unquote level as the people that you're talking to inhaling i feel like strategy incorporates you you going in like you know a different orient like you're not going to keep the common courtesy of staying the same way up for a battle yeah in a battle once as long as it doesn't like if ever there was an opportunity to go off of what could be the standard navigation to benefit them it looks like they do that yeah and um this and you would want to the it makes sense for soldiers in a battle even in a space battle to have a sense of direction yeah so it would so they would probably anchor themselves even if they weren't if they were doing this totally like without any computer guidance then they would naturally use a planet or a large spaceship as their anchor point quote-unquote orient themselves like that could be a huge skill though is like is uh you know uh navigating with no like reference for up or down and that's like uh this is as well like and you don't get ships you don't get ships ever like turning different ways up as part of their strategies or whatever yeah it's it's presented in a very what we do see ships are the i there's there's definitely a lot of spectacle that goes into it i think one of the best examples would probably be the beginning of revenge of the sith like there's no way ships would ever get that close to each other that's preposterous and in a big clusterfuck like that i always thought they were trying to imply that things were just fucked at that point as in like the ships are getting so close to car isn't that the best way to try and even stop them is just put park the republic ships in front of them yeah so i'm saying i'm trying to write hard for the movies no i understand this isn't in the movies this is me just like if i was in charge of it if i was writing if this was my universe that would be what it is um so i have no understanding of space i would love for you to explain to me which part of what i've said shows that i don't understand space well finally enough someone in the discord actually explained that some of what you said is real to space there's apparently six directions for space travel and they're called pro grade retrograde normal anti normal and radial and anti radial and they refer to up down left right in and out yeah like a it it only makes sense for the purposes of intergalactic commerce and space travel and direction tisms you would have some kind of a standardization like we have on earth just on a galactic scale i mean it makes sense that every culture and planet or small system would have their own stuff but there would also be a standardized galactic unit that everyone could use to get around because every you have to it's like cars on a road you all have to be cooperating as a galaxy or else you have problems with space travel you've got to remember though that like ships may be traveling in completely different directions like you know a ship may be um like you know like let's say you've got three star destroyers right and two of them are like sitting nice and firmly next to each other and they're the same way up but one of them is traveling in a direction that makes the same orientation impossible so like let's say they're both facing one direction and the third one is face is like traveling in the direction that from that perspective would be up well they it faces the way it's going so from from that perspective it can't be the same way up it well it can't be the same way up well i'm i imagine that well that that's totally logically possible within the universe undoubtedly i feel like especially in a in a marshal sense having formations would be extremely important in space then there's um there's stuff as well like it never they never use it deliberately like there's a comic called second empire i wouldn't recommend it but uh it does this well it has um space battles where for example bombers um like for the space battle they orient like with the bottom of the ship towards the enemy wherever the enemy are like the web they're designed for like planetary bombardment and the weapons at the bottom of the ship so all of the ships are like oriented differently for strategy and like it's actually thought through oh this is what space battles might be like if a ship can even detect another ship they would be insanely close no i don't think so not at all no absolutely not yeah i like for instance um the the idea that with given the so things are generally built for purpose especially things that are related to the military right so if you have ships in space then you're not going to be building them for the rules of in atmosphere and stuff like that you've got to be aware of the fact that things can come in from every direction so you got to be able to shoot from every direction or you build them so that they're supposed to support each other um you build them so that they can engage in insanely long distances um like hundreds of thousands of kilometers things like that just insanely long distances because there's no atmosphere um and that's how you would probably start space battles space battles wouldn't get i mean obviously this is like a non-star wars you're this is star wars adjacent hypothetical sort of thing but like you would build a you would build a ship that's supposed to be doing space battles understanding the rules of how like space works and the potentials i saw a great youtube video about this i can't remember uh chat help me out there's a great youtube video explaining how space battles likely really work they were to actually happen and talks about how um spaceships would be like so far apart that you probably wouldn't be able to see the ships you're fighting against not with a naked eye yeah and with uh one of the main weapons would be attrition by heat so like because uh heat doesn't radiate because the only way you're losing heat in space is via radiation which is very slow um you're if you're like shot with a heat weapon it's going to heat up the and like there's going to be very little way to get rid of that heat so by just heating each other up you you can fuck up your opponents so that would likely be a very significant weapon wouldn't heat wouldn't heat be lost someone very very quickly without uh well like hmm someone i guess i think that's interesting i'd be super curious about how that works um but yeah the the idea that i if i was going to really sit down and come up with a sci-fi universe and think about how a space battle would function then you'd have to really stop and think how would the tactics of space work how would ships actually destroy other ships um would it be like like like in mass effect they talk about how warships just have these armies of essentially armies of hackers on each ship that try to fuck around with the other ship and get past their firewalls and things like that and that could be an explanation for if you want you're like like the again uh the beginning of Revenge of the Sith you have clone troopers who are sitting on these manned uh like old school artillery machines on the sides of ships shooting manually right so which doesn't make any sense in the context of a space battle uh however if you think about well because hacking is going to be such a big thing in the future and firewalls are important you'd want to have everything hardwired and if it's not if it doesn't need to be part of like a ship's network then it shouldn't be that could be your excuse for having a lot of things be physically manned by soldiers to give that kind of look and feel there's a lot of stuff you could do with it but I think especially in Star Wars is since a lot of it's just done for the look and the feel and the aesthetics of you know battles and making it super easy for us to comprehend that doesn't need an explanation to just show it in the moment and to give that feel of you know old stuff in a new setting things that are very familiar to us that don't necessarily make sense in its setting chat found the video by the way it's uh because science is the channel i'm not sure about the specific video but i i that's the channel so that's one of the way putting this kind of effort into figuring out the stuff beyond before you reach like an actual expert and stuff it's like you could go this far you might not have to go this far you could still have your stuff so but it's like but please do more than saying you can't go up that's when you've hit rock bottom yeah and obviously this is this is all built off of a point that we've strayed far from but it's just interesting to talk about i think just interesting you know i'll roll Patrick back a bit until we can get back on the rails it was important to him to present new worlds new stories new characters and new technologies and over the past couple years that's exactly what star wars hasn't done we all know when he says the past couple years he's right he doesn't think tlj did it or he said couple years didn't he i thought he said four i could i i think he's very being careful to say couple because that doesn't include tlj let's let's try again new characters and new technologies and over the past couple years oh how did i hear four what the fuck i don't know you're taking him out of context you're straw manning him this is why the live format cannot work jay what do you have to say for yourself yeah you're racist i'm gonna say i'm gonna pee so i'll be right back oh my well i'm probably not gonna last much longer in this stream by the way i'm i'm dying it's okay we'll see it through the video this time i just people are getting this what what that's exactly what star wars hasn't done we all know george lucas loves it when stories rhyme but there's a difference between rhyming and just repeating repeating stuff we've heard before but hey babu frik though a legend you couldn't even do that i couldn't even do that without being cringy come on patrick i believe in you music be careful again it's gotta be generic they all sound generic like they don't sound like actual songs now what makes this all more complicated is the colin travaro of it all a quick refresher in case you forgot colin travaro a director of dress world and the book of henry was originally set to direct and co-write star wars episode nine in september 2017 three months before the last Jedi was even released he and lucas film parted ways and a week later it was announced that jj abrams would be taking his place now i've made it clear in the past that i'm not a huge travaro fan and i'm kind of ashamed of how happy i was when he left the project but don't be ashamed of that what the fuck okay yeah that's fine work on something i care about oh no i'm happy no that's fine i mean it was jj abrams because then maybe i suppose yeah you could feel upset at that point recently i hold of a copy of the script he co-wrote with derrick connelly for episode nine at least the draft that existed in december 2016 and while i have problems with it i genuinely think it's better than what rides of skywalker ended up being doesn't everyone feel that way that's what i've heard is that the script has problems but it's a bit no like the the really travaro script because it's a whole different thing but people like just prefer it by far to what we got and right oh you all all you had to say was whole different thing and i'm on board yeah yeah that's i'm pretty sure most people felt that because nobody really there's no fans of riser skywalker really they're they're a small contingent riser skywalker has no good faith not really and the thing is it's not just that it's a better more functional piece of writing it's that it actually continues and builds upon the ideas introduced in the last jedi it tries to move star wars forward instead of spending the whole movie screaming rey's name and saying he has to tell her something that he never ends up actually telling her here finn completes the arc he had been on over the past two films getting other storm troopers to turn against the first order and leading an uprising of the lower classes on that's what that's the shot of him saying right right wait wait wait which shot of him saying rey that's actually isn't another riser skywalker one i can't remember maybe he's got post jack it on well i don't i don't know that he does it looks more like they took his face and then they've just got goop because that looks like goop but i can't i can't exactly remember i just find it cool um but yeah the idea of him leading a storm trooper uprising is already more enticing uh i'd be concerned about execution but again much more enticing than nothing for finn chorus on there's no palpatine kylo ren remains the main villain of the story turning further toward the dark side and rey who is also not related to palpatine moves beyond the old jedi ways becoming as leah puts it on page 39 something new even the fan service makes more sense you know how some fans have spent decades complaining about how what how dare you um is that his position i wouldn't go ahead i just i i i mean the fan service is good if it makes sense is more our position isn't it yeah um but we're talking about the rise of skywalker so it's okay for him to say that oh yeah atric willams is a complex character yeah he really is very complex yeah how should we didn't get up and also i just what's up with the lighting he keeps doing the one side of him is dark one side of his light because the green he's sitting in a sewer oh god represent his in a column he does live in new york oh fair enough oh shit at me end of a new hope well here he does get a medal at the end but it's for his heroic actions in the battle of coruscant in this movie in rise of skywalker must canada just hands him a medal at the end for no reason no one else gets a medal just chewy i don't know exactly and it and it was hawn's medal wouldn't it i think so wouldn't it lay it no lay it marz leo was holding him when she died right hawn's medal um i can't remember the film's not explicit about it right you have to go to like third-party shit to find out who's mad specifically must cannot Chewbacca let me let me google this really quick um uh so um uh just a second behind the scenes um Chewbacca not being awarded a medal in the film was a source of discontent for many star wars fans in an interview recorded shortly after the release of a new hope lucas explained that wookie species don't care for medals but that a large contingent of alliance officers were sent to kashik for a memorable celebration due to chewie's efforts blah blah blah blah as a reference to the controversy mouse canada gave chewie hawn's solo's medal of bravery left to him by leia at the end of the rise of skywalker so maz gave chewie hawn's medal that was left to him by leia all right then yeah uh hmm probably why travaro left the project maybe lucas filmed didn't like his script maybe they didn't get along with him i don't know but what i have here is a script that feels like a continuation and ending to the story that was being told across the trilogy oh that's a shame i don't like the light keeps flickering hang on the story was being called across this trilogy which one tlj or tfa yeah it's uh instead what got made was a movie that threw out all of that that had no interest in moving forward that ran off of pure nostalgia and an obsession with the past i know lucas film is a company within a massive media conglomerate with tons of people working there each with their own thoughts and opinions i hate to ascribe one perspective to the whole organization but all i have to evaluate here i think it's they yeah the light is flickering it it's distracting it's i mean i i i doubt i'm losing anything of value by not paying attention to his words it might be that the light is getting kind of blocked out if his right hand kind of moves in front of it like the light is really close but it's dim i think that's what it is yeah okay i'm gonna hop i've survived you're gonna hop at trick yeah i'm gonna hop all right where to uh are you stopping in place yeah in place i've survived 20 minutes of patrick and that's enough good night why don't you tell people about what you're doing on your channel i'm doing a video about original good moulin compared to bad 20 did i cut out there yeah i'm doing a video about good 1998 moulin why it's good compared to 2020 moulin and why it's bad and it's really fucking bad have you have you noticed that in the action scenes where they quick cut everything they quick cut over is nonsense it's really funny it is thank you so i feel like it's too late we already had efat movies on it everyone knows it's bad it's too late you guys you know the part where moulin uh gets disarmed and like loses her sword yumbo uh so they they quick cut in that bit so you don't really notice what happens if you if you if you don't like look hard but uh so she pushes um she pushes uh what's his name mr kan uh she pushes him and then it cuts to him falling away and the next scene is her just throwing her sword that's like oh why did why did she do that well because the sword was preventing her from winning oh fuck she needed an arrow holding an or it's a sword she can't kick an arrow into him so hey jade someone in chat said the 98 one isn't that good it's funny though what do you think uh it's really good wait a what got some issues but it's really good moulin well yeah 98 one's great like it's got it's got like it's got like two points where the plot uh has like something dominant but neither the plot never depends on either well what would those points be so uh i'm talking about like the the point where uh moulin falls off a clip moulin and her whole fall off a cliff and they're able to pull them back up by a right yeah that's ridiculous the the thing is they never need to fall off a cliff in the first for the story to happen so it's just like oh yeah we could like that's a bit um but like you can just ignore it because the rest none of the rest of this it just happens yeah it's it's silly that like and then chin poe picks everybody up and you know dany the lido as he's holding the arrow and all that stuff and then the second thing is that um the soldiers are ramming down the and moulin is like wait i have a faster idea and then it cuts to them all like in full drag like oh yeah sure like they had to acquire all that's they had to find it and get it and then convince you know they had to find like loads of makeup and dresses that fit no even chin poe like the most giant character in the what makes it like you didn't just rip a curtain off and wrap it around himself no it's like a full on dress that's what a curtain is oh and uh like you know they have to get their makeup uh i assume none of them have done makeup before uh it's just a guess though and then they have to you know they have to get and get in their dresses and this is apparently faster than and the disguises don't even do fucking anything for the story because they end up just fighting the gods anyway those are the two worst parts about the line original now say the list of things that are bad about the new one i can i um i'll never ploy to keep him here forever i'll just that's just you asking me to stay fine i'll go to patrick willems for my input not you you subscribe to jaxie to find out more about whether or not mulan 98 is terrible as he will try and prove thank you goodbye goodbye it's kicking himself down to four now when we were a solid 17 once 17 when did that happen shut up okay i'm sorry take it away patrick and the message i take from their releases over the past two years is that right now star wars is only interested in recycling the past it has no interest in moving forward and that's i just want to say this music is weird it is but it's like a bad knockoff of um what's the what's the spooky ghost city in pokemon lavender town is that yeah i think that it makes me feel that but discount um discount spoopy which is it's bad to have a discount version of pokemon music that's pretty that's pretty bad because that that music is very simple in the games not bad but very simple like the the lamb's boss fight music but it is simple you're right then somehow they managed to do worse than pokemon all those years later for a high budget tv show well maybe it's not high budget i don't know definitely no high quality really what i'm interested in right now it seems like star wars isn't really for me i'm not a huge fan of the star wars prequels i don't think they're very good movies but i accept the general story developments if you tell me that in attack of the clones anakin and pad may begin a secret forbidden love affair and then a civil war breaks out in the galaxy i'm like sure sounds cool i may not like the execution but i'm fine with what it adds to the overall story of the series but it's different with rise of skywalker the execution is obviously much better the acting is better the dialogue is better the visual storytelling is better babu frick is there but in this movie what are the main that's a horrible shirt to wear you shouldn't wear that you should be ashamed that you even created it let alone wear it you should be ashamed of that like that's an insanely stupid thing though this is a movie about space wizards intended for children i'm pretty sure that's a bit of this thing again he's like yeah shut up all of you it's it's funny all i don't know does this counters like almost all of his points about why he doesn't like the rise of skywalker but he this is patrick will he he has no self-awareness and as for the prequels the writing is better than the sequels i'm sorry yeah it is story developments so it reveals that palpatine is somehow alive and apparently has manipulated everything over the past 30 years also that ray who is really his granddaughter can perform a ritual also of course patrick williams uses a mac where he'll take over her body but then she kills him and the star wars are over the story over the past two movies has been about the resistance at war with the first order and this doesn't seem like an ending to that story it just seems broken palpatine i completely agree patrick yeah i see you finally realizing it i suppose he thinks he's already referring to the rise of skywalker though turning makes the original trilogy worse because it takes away the impact of vader's action at the end of return of the jedi now him turning against palpatine is essentially meaningless since it didn't work i mean i would i don't know if i want to go as far as meaningless um it's still something he chose to do it still means something that vader did that the it just it just cancels out his legacy of having defeated the empire almost single-handedly yeah like i just if i'm being as honest as possible it's still if we were to treat it as canon when we watched return of the jedi it's like vader still did what he did um but you know i'm i'm i'm mostly on patrick's team with that one i'll give you a thumbs up it makes palpatine's character worse since instead of a man consumed by his hunger for political power by any means necessary he's just a wizard obsessed with the magic ritual so here's the thing those two aren't like incongruous i feel like yeah i feel like he's still a magic wizard in the prequels too if you're gonna be derogatory yeah he was still a stiff he shot lightning from his hands like i don't like you you know if you are in a world where you have the force space magic right if you have that you can use that to get to your goal of galactic domination that's he's a sif that's kind of the idea yeah it's a weird way to put it it makes rain worse because it undoes the idea that she can come from nothing and becomes a one great instead attributing everything special about her to her bloodline and it makes the entire saga feel smaller and instiller how we did you not get that from the first two as well not just rise yeah it's really bad yeah it's like oh this is when you win the the switch was flipped for him it's like did you see the other movies a story spanning a whole galaxy that's really just about two families fighting over decades so when i think about this movie how much i disagree with its major choices and the degree to which i think it damages the entire series for the first time in my life i don't accept what a star wars movie does and i realize now that my entire relationship with star wars has changed bear with me it's intended for children so i swear that you had a relationship with it anyway you mean child he's also needs himself because like he was talking about people like that in the previous video like as if he was commenting on their crazy existence as being people who tell the creators what is and isn't star wars and what isn't isn't working and what they accept and i'm guessing now he's having an existential crisis because he's one of those people have to rise the Skywalker i don't know poor guy on this tangent because i promise it will make sense all right so i love superhero comics the marvel and dc universes are these wacky ongoing stories that have been running for decades with countless writers and artists adding to them and building on each other's work so the story of spider-man is this one story that's been going since 1962 and that one ongoing story is made up of thousands of smaller stories and sometimes there's a story that you look at and just go nope in 2004 marvel published a story across six issues of amazing spider-man called sins past this story revealed that years earlier when stacey the love of peter parker's life had an affair with norman osborn aka the green goblin who would famously kill her by throwing her off a bridge and because of this affair she secretly gave birth to twins who because of osborn's weird dna aged rapidly and eventually tried to kill peter parker and whatever it's a dumb story so let's leave it at that i don't take yeah i i don't take your word for it generally on whether or not things are dumb or not you you are the last person who is qualified to make those kinds of statements um yeah i'm gonna keep it on tracks i i got no context for those comics we'll see if everyone is it considered a terrible one chat um certainly many questionable decisions with with how we just summed it up this is a bad comic um sounds pretty dumb the comic meant for kids this comic is almost as bad as one more day keep oh shrug oh my god that's spider-man arc is horrible he's definitely right on it it's infamous okay it's pretty bad pretty terrible yeah it's terrible it's infamously okay all right cool i hated the story how long delay on youtube is by the way oh yeah um my choices with youtube are to have quicker sort of upload all better quality upload and i was like i guess i'll choose better quality um but who knows if how much of a difference there is i think most people did it felt like character assassination for guen stacey this girl who'd always been presented as a good person was now cheating on peter with his friend gross evil dad and having secret love children superhero comics might basically be soap operas but this is a step too far all right now that story was published 15 years ago and after i read it i did what a lot of people did i chose to ignore it sure it might technically be a part of marvel comics canon but personally i don't acknowledge it as part of guen stacey's history when a character has been appearing so um i don't know what to say that it's like yeah personal candid versus official ip stuff i don't know yeah i i guess if we're just it i mean are we just gonna call it denial i guess so uh there are different continuities maybe it's a part of a comic a line that you can actually like reasonably ignore shit i don't know in a monthly comma 50 years you're going to get some bad stories that mess things up what do you mean bad stories willams what do you mean yeah stories can be bad that's some dangerous uh to some dangerous lingo you're slinging around there implying stories can be bad in these cases the best thing to do is just to ignore it and brush it under the rug and hey maybe down the road another writer will come along and write a story that undoes it that happens a lot in comics and happened and fucking rise this guy okay i'm surprised it referenced that maybe he will actually acknowledge yet that that's a bad movie or did he always say i'm just agreeing and i'm not accepting what is in the movie because i'm not sure if did he actually said oh this is a bad movie um did you say the rice cow was behind i can't remember i'm pretty sure we know he thinks that but yeah i'm just wondering if he says it i don't think you said it yeah me neither this was like me how i feel about star wars now i'm not on board with this chapter in the story so you know what i'm just going to ignore it i'm going to move on with my life there is a you could have done that and you will never you'll never move on from tlj whether or not you consider rise of skywalker canon you can move on with your life it's okay yeah you'll be fine like we accept that tlj's canon like that's not the yeah like we accept that it's shit we've said before like that's our issue with it being can is sad because it's so bad yeah we wouldn't care if it was some random person's fanfiction on deviant art like we wouldn't give a shit because it's a lot of those already that we don't talk about yeah yeah decent i'm never going to watch rise of skywalker again so what do i do now sure i could spend the next year of my life obsessing over how much i hated the rise of skywalk oh there it is that's us there it is there's that patrick williams stark a cc to make in the attack i could start a petition to remake it or to get luke's film to wipe it from because starting a petition that's easy to sign it's something that just takes up so much of your life you know just starting it up and then leaving it alone forever it's like that oh what are you obsessed you weirdo panon i can make weekly videos detailing every little thing wrong with it i could spend my day well you could do that you could talk about all kinds of media that way forever on a podcast and bringing guests and have back and forth and go for the you know all kinds of big talking points you could do that but of course you have a life patrick so you wouldn't hey you're starting fights with people online who likes starting oh man discussion all discussions are fights regardless of context if you say you're wrong about something you're starting a fight leave me alone stop punching me the movie because how dare they like a thing that hey there it is he's hitting all the bits he's hitting all the beats how i just want to be able to safely snipe from my youtube channel this could be done from a script like oh you're not allowed to like it it's like john adams made it legal like why does this have to keep coming up you don't even know the constitution it's embarrassing he is american i didn't but that sounds like a really shitty unhealthy way to spend you're the embodiment of unhealthy criticism yeah what the fuck all you do is confirm we have made so many friends we're going to talk about what we want from a star wars movie now that sounds unhealthy turn off the podcast right now go offline we're uh where's my gadelp notes it's unhealthy to discuss media someone just wrote his filling a bingo card quickly oh yeah i mean he's one of the one of the big big goes i would say he's always going to do that but yeah uh hate to break it to you folks especially the cast here like especially us but chat to all of you were unhealthy so uh really because i've been like uh i i no i don't know well let me answer this rags is it okay for someone to enjoy something oh no i mean it's funny because that's not even a broad enough quite a close enough questions like is it okay to enjoy tlj that is the ultimate and of course the answer is no it's the only thing you can like you uh yeah if you if you end up liking it when you're unhealthy what the fuck in my time i'm an adult and these are movies about space wizards intended for children you can't say that after everything you just said in this video yeah they're not though they're not movies about space wizards intended for children that's just false and is this his version of embracing the meme and quotes oh yeah this is definitely an attempt at it it's so weird to see a youtuber who talks about movies just devalue their own craft so brazenly mm-hmm like i guess if that's what you want to do like okay i care about them and i take them seriously but they're not worth staying angry about you take a movie about space wizards intended for children seriously oh man what kind of a worthless man child are you with all of your fucking dolls everywhere on your desk he's stepping all over all over himself that's the problem he's hard enough to see it it's hard to get a through line from exactly what what is childish what it's mature what is unhealthy i don't know but apparently it's it involves staying angry like some kind of yeah ball of frustration i don't know i heard this one time that anger leads to hate then hate leads to suffering and fuck off no one wants that go away fuck off so in this weird new post episode nine world what is star wars is it one big series i kind of do feel like this is funny because we said it i'm pretty sure he uses it to say that he used is it how it's of nine movies is it a shared universe full of countless different stories i honestly don't really know we all want something different from star wars and there's a star wars for whatever each of us wants so we can each curate our own star wars experience was that lightsaber always on the desk no he moved the remote to in between takes i mean i guess and he's got a different like that his process because he's wearing the old shirt but he's in the old place but it's a new day because things are moved around and i guess he changed his clothes and the lights different because he just decided to tack things on like he doesn't actually have a plan you just don't understand the plan i that's correct i do not understand the plan oh we our perfect star wars mixtape just the songs we love none of the ones we don't so this isn't new if he's really referring to the fact that's like yeah i like these star wars movies and not a huge fan of these ones like we've been doing that since the dawn of fucking time like that's just yeah that's how it works the idea is like no you print you tell yourself that these are canon and these aren't like uh they're all canon it's just i like ones and i don't like others how do you i don't know man like it's all very strange um it doesn't tlj fall apart if everything else isn't canon except for the right scalco and of course right scalco fall apart if everything else isn't canon because it's all based on it's i don't know it's a really weird line of thought don't and hopefully over time we can add some new ones for my whole life the only star wars i cared about were the movies but since lately the movies aren't really giving me the star wars experience i would like i finally decided to branch out and dive into the animated shows i know you don't want to say it just have balls already i don't agree with it what's this one i was looking for he delved into the animated shows um let's let's hear his take theo get ready this hour's i don't agree with it yeah it's fucking terrible that is why maybe you can actually move on then and not just say it fucking hell dude i've been watching this and i just got to the part where it starts getting really good some of the recent star wars comics from marvel have been great and i'm really digging the new series by charles soul and hei su saiz maybe one day i was the star wars i used to really good would come yeah i so the thing here is that this is all worthless because this is the work this is the most unqualified judge of quality that i could probably think of it's like i like he's worse than randomness if i just flipped a coin on things it would probably do better to average out than his takes on what's good or bad it is hard to figure it out maybe one day destiny will bring us back together that's definitely copyright probably if i'm being honest i don't expect that to happen anytime soon but i'm okay with that stop playing the fucking music okay oh man look at him go no this will be fun i'm back how those catchphrases coming they're coming along real great hey patrick look i know we never really talked about uh star wars i mean you're doing all right you want to you want to talk about that that was the erratic behavior has been happening what star wars dude i got over that shit in like a week i've moved on from the silly space wizards movies to more important mature sophisticate you keep telling yourself that buddy as well as your audience because of course telling people you're over something is the best way to let them know that you're over something over and over again yeah constantly in the stream constantly we've already known he's just gonna try and squirm in tail j is great tail j is great y'all are wrong tail g also i don't care about any of this it's just stupid space movies shut up i'm the fucking internet argument who goes i don't i literally don't even care lol it's like i guess you do kated franchises i've you seen the f9 trailer the only han solo i care about is han solo justice is coming salute me familia what's that charl you think i should talk about skillshare oh charl why would you do that jesus charl why charl's a fucking sellout the ad read fucking idiot milk for brains good idea for the past half hour i've been talking about how frustrating and disappointing it can be when movies prioritize fan service and install he probably had a solid five minutes of things to say in this half hour video kind of how to remember what was said that last ten minutes went right by yeah um well yeah and then whenever i when i remember this is part two what was part one about i was like oh that's like a fever drain because his videos are so shit yeah this is an adventure of sorts yeah that's an adventure alja over story look good storytelling isn't easy to do you've already um whatever he says it all the people who make these videos say i'm always like what do you mean by it gotta work at it and study and educate yourself and if you want to learn more about it allow me to direct you to the skillshare class called storytelling 101 character conflict context and craft by Daniel older what what what a damning damning recommendation for this class that patrick willams wants us to see it like oh it'll teach you how to make films as good as tlj yay uh and here's the thing Daniel Jose older is one of the writers on the big new secretive trans media star wars project called project luminous that's going to be announced next week so you can learn about the craft of writing from someone who's actually working on star wars i don't care the people who work on star wars now are shit they're the last people i want to listen to star wars from yeah he just by the whole video explaining how fucking this guy is star wars by the way yeah i don't want to listen to these these untalented losers he just he just said like star wars isn't for him anymore by the way these people make star wars you could learn from that wait a minute wait whoa whoa whoa you can get this class and thousands more by joining Skillshare the first 500 people to click the link in the description will get two free months of a premium membership wow writing our video production okay so black text on a black background well that's gonna that's going to be something that you want to avoid that's something that's something that you 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link in the description for two free months you get to learn new skills it helps out the channel everyone wins we did it hello welcome back and thank you for watching what I think is the last Star Wars video I'm ever going to make I can tell you believe me but I really think this is it I got everything that comes out remember he's not obsessed stop not obsessed no it's amazing how he's been able to dupe all these people into giving him money that's insane what a what in some way a worthless video that's self contradictory and lacking in talent and almost all respects so much effort into I don't care I don't care about Star Wars okay not me so anyway Star Wars on the second channel if you didn't know we have a second channel so go subscribe my friends David Chen and I are doing a commentary discussion about this video talking about how it was a commentary about this video well shouldn't you put that in the video no because that's commentary on the commentary that is in the video that's 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in episode 304 patrick it's not quashed i'm gonna be dead by then um yeah i don't know outside of saying that video wasn't very good in a more extreme sense that's that's uh we did it that's it all right no what do you feel accomplished no oh um feel older mm-hmm more seasoned in the awful well i guess it's on the super chats yeah i guess no any fun stuff we'll have a look see at what people are saying i'm super curio oh gosh that theme to in the background just give moment i shall rise them but uh yeah i'm still stuck on that one level in the halloween part of sonic so at least it's systematically relevant whether or not i take a million years to get past it um and yeah it's the time i suppose we'll do this one's now attached to the stream and then as soon as we get past them yeah just now oh hang on i'll put it up on schrisms oh my goodness that's a this one he sent earlier that was kind of funny too stole my christmas i mean i don't think you guys should be fun of movie bob and patrick they've they've gone through a lot they've probably been they they've probably made fun of a lot so we shouldn't pile on imagine your halloween was stolen by someone you wouldn't like it good back hey it's mine come on sonic come on screen isn't sure i don't know mom oh because it's not set right sorry everyone there she is beautiful all right henry mancini what's that it's the guy who wrote that song no i meant what is that that is a person that is a uh he's a he's one of the musical musicals and one of them one of them humans all right you i got him this one says mola how embarrassing dot dot dot dot dot i think they're starting up the uh the copypasta but they just didn't do any more of it embarrassing your critiques are insufficient oh my god you can have 99 save files in this game wow impressive yeah not bad here you go guys you can play this 99 different sonics all at once and you can even progress each of your sonic teams or or chaotic rows and dark teams in each file so much content um this says hey cuties i feel like that that word is cursed now like when nobody can use it in any other context it's just rude um i'm only on 83 but i have to see more will helms yeah it was interesting uh you know checking him out seeing how he was doing you know not much has changed oh i guess he's changed a little bit he's learned about how some things are shit um he just he keeps getting more and more complex he's having trouble explaining his issues with rise of skywalker without coming across as the very people he was trying to criticize in the uh the movie is bad i'm from pretty company that he never said it's a bad movie you know he thinks it though jj brams how fucking dare you thank you man you've stolen my star wars give me a crack are you shalom rags oh hello oldest gate three is around 60 gigabytes and larger than cod wow i was like 207 gigabytes though yeah so how's that that's probably a shit ton of content considering that the other stuff that they make isn't like graphically intensive or anything so that's good to hear hopeful to hear but yeah um i mean bigger size games is fine it's just when i think most people agree it's like when it gets to the absurd it's like boy hang on it also depends what kind of content you receive i mean i don't mind downloading for a bunch of time if i get some good shit out of it yeah ye so what will the next video you upload be more like i suppose before we close out i will talk about that today i said i'd talk about it next week last week so now it is those two things have neutralized themselves means it is time uh hey long man have you played call of cthulhu 2018 gameplay is just okay but story and atmosphere are great hi j kick rags i have played that game i thought it was fucking terrible and um i was so annoyed with it i went through it all with mr e me actually uh i hated it so much i was tempted to make a video but i was in the middle of a big series of that point so i was like i can't but call of cthulhu fucking sucks um mechanically is garbage the story is nonsensical um the atmosphere is like fine at some points but i feel like it ruins itself and if you guys know what it is i know of it but is that that came out last year 2018 i was not happy with it yeah i mean i was never interested in it but uh yeah i think you know what you want to help me because you're you're like that shisms yeah i was super interested and then i was like this is poo i demand my poo back they took it out of my colon and spread it across my screen oh yeah that was uh so wait someone brought this not a super chat though but um uh no one's going to bring up how patrick said that he trusts bob chipman and bob likes the rise of skywalker i don't know if people still want to do things i forgot about that it's insane to me also i just got killed in like a casual way and i'm resetting because i need more lives that's how serious i'm taking sonic now oh i got to do better than that i just realized it's the same level from last time that's what i said i've been stuck on this one for ages it's uh i'm not good at sonic heroes there's probably something i'm missing it's really obvious but uh you guys are gonna suffer through watching me play sonic heroes until i complete it okay i'm playing i'm playing my old game i don't need to do shit and then luigi's mansion is next at least i'm good at that oh well you've already played that one yeah but it's halloween i get to play it again you know that how it works rags spooky game play a different spooky game nor literally name one other spooky game in the existence of humanity resident evil four it's not a spooky yeah i uh it it's spooky it's just not that spooky it's not how spooky um like it's not even a seven on the spooky scale i would agree it's five out of ten spooky and this isn't even like like even a ten out of ten spooky just means it's really spooky it doesn't mean it's scary yet it's not even on a it's not on the scary scale there there are parts of it that are scary uh i think is sonic heroes um it i mean sonic heroes certainly looks horrifying yeah see and it's like oh rose new four was like how is that spooky compared to sonic heroes i mean yeah if i stream a game it might be that just going through that and answering questions and stuff do it or dead space maybe oh yeah dead space did rags find his yoko ono were you looking for a yoko ono oh because i was late they're like i i found like the yoko broke you know it's yoko broke up the band that sort of thing which is why i wasn't on efab because i was with my yoko ono oh my god who is this horrible one but i guess i don't know i've never been i haven't yet been presented with no i have never mind don't worry about it i think we're all curious how that sentence is gonna end hi mola hi moodle hi theo hi rags hello hi when he oh rags when he gets you also kick the statistic kick the statistic what doesn't it that was from mihi chik sent mihi oh he hates statistics rags replacement will be patrick williams how's that for a twist wouldn't that be funny that would that would certainly be quite a twist oh no don't infinitely kill me birthday live streams are the best dreams thanks for the funtisms happy late birthday mola and hello rags why thank you oh hey and yeah that was fun i i like amnesia a lot um not just from the experience of spooking me which is you know it's less and less able to do that as time goes on that's only as a result of me knowing the game inside out um and it was fun talking about what i think was really clever with bits of the design and trying to understand the law ahead of time because rebirth is more than likely going to be referencing it and we'll be streaming that one uh over on this channel so you don't have to actually go anywhere yeah it's gonna be fun and hopefully rags can play it as well we'll have ourselves a little discussion about whether or not shit the new amnesia europe oh yeah of course i'll play it absolutely mel you play it too okay not gonna not play the new frictional game yeah mouth fuck you gonna wait when does it come out uh 20th 10 days uh that depends actually depends if i have money for it okay i'll i'll i'll gift it to you for i give people things on halloween not christmas i'm okay with it no i had to put down my deposit uh this month on my flat so i can't and wild money i mean yeah if you if you're happy to play on stream it could be a lot of fun for discussion to them yeah i'll play it on stream for sure then sweet there you go that's incentive you guys to go and find a channel on twitch and subscrisal or wait for the uploads on youtube when after we watch the thingy tomorrow should we play more phasmophobia oh ah we can do that well phasmophobia sounds interesting not that i'm trying to remain secretive about that thing that we're doing tomorrow i don't know why like there's no reason but uh of the p i think the first person to bow out will probably be fringy or j right what i'm suggesting is what do you think you guys are going to be looking like in terms of how much time we can spend because we could theoretically do an efab gaming wait um i mean saturday is normally devoted to efab anyway so yeah it should be i mean my my whole weekend was booked out for you guys this time so yeah well you know either way we'll just see what everybody's willing to do and maybe four tears free who knows and stream some phasmophobia maybe some golf wait they're stealing all my coins the fuck and again i can't follow him again follow me again god damn it you're not trying out enough you can follow him more than once because he has more than one thing good it was youtube watch his john wick video john wick three is not good pay ball john wack it's not quite bad he's even gonna go after john wick two once he's got enough time to do can do the grab also i'm low on rings again don't die okay let's go whoa uh do another efab villain list slash play shadow the cringe hog hey shadow the cringe hog it's also said like what he started out he was a really good character but they ruined him as time went on and i was like uh that's such a bizarre thing to hear they ruined shadow the hedgehog i guess yeah maybe they did it's possible i've come why does that background look so weird hang on i guess it is supposed to look like that all right well you can see spooky ghost in the background everyone's so i'm oh my god sneaking around he's doing a spooky um i love efab and i'm a friday also hi john yeah john's gone now he'll be back one day but only if he apologizes to me i don't think he will yeah he's a piece of shit the tic does super hero subversion better than the boys and is more entertaining watch that instead completely agreed in fact i would like to get sad again i one like there's a good chance i'll show you that rags the tic is way better than the boys so good very funny one of the two the do you know anything about the tic rags no i just know that it's a character a superhero character he's like his character if you will is like he's as strong as homelander but he's kind of dumb and he wants to help people and he just goes into situations like i'm gonna beat up the way talks as well it's like fucking captain quark from uh retching clank um like i am the tic you stop there villain it's fucking fun to watch but that should that should get cancelled yeah that got cancelled after two seasons uh and they're fun two seasons to watch so i recommend i just i just got a text i need to head out for like 10 minutes or so and then i will be back no problem yeah even mel give you permission yeah i'm i'm just like let me confirm this carry on like normal let me double check on this thing i might i might have fired a little too early on that one i guess uh tell me you guys soul patrick grow his beard out i i think i did i think someone sent me a photo of it he was like he looked as horrific as the facial hair of all the people in his videos so wow um it's like a rule on youtube for some reason that you just have to have terrible facial hair if you make these videos i did remember thinking it looked weird i was like man him with a beard somehow looks i don't know looks like weird can you just die giant man oh i would like to be able to cut my beard properly again but they're just they're not allowed to because of the rona dammit it's really annoying i'm trying to keep it tame myself it just doesn't look as good if you just take a bustle um step one oh there you go yeah i always just walk into a lawn mower kick jay where's rags rags is here and jay has been kicked oh all is right with the world yeah everything is all right why did you start streaming during my work you know sometimes we've got to change things around scheduling wise you start working during our stream yeah bitch the ultimate question i can still hit this guy right yeah okay a channel called hello future me just made an hour long video praising the last of us too you should totally spend a couple of months covering it maybe some time in the distant future yeah because i can't shit there's a boob game rags is gone now forever thankfully praise john wow oh by the way did i tell you that like uh when i was meeting up with a co-worker he was trying to talk about the last of us too but did you hear people don't like the game because the lesbians i was like no they don't what i've never heard that i've like legitimately never heard that i'm not even yeah i was gonna say that i think that's the first time i've heard the straw man that people only hate it because of lesbians yeah because of the strength women and all that shit i've heard that people hate it because you have to play as a girl which is a really funny criticism considering you play as ali in the first one i cut him right off and it's like well i didn't play it so i'm okay i was like i want to run my mouth to see it's like that uh they tried to initiate the conversation with that i was like yeah no that's not really the issue people have with this but sure if it makes you feel better to say that's their issue then go for it do you seen the full guys flash gets video it reminded me of the wholesome family fun content that i remember from news grounds also hi john i have seen that i've not seen that um it's funny as hell yeah the idea is what happens to the full guys after they fall down the um thing and it's like this one full guy down there who's eating all of the corpses good shit they made one for among us as well i didn't find that one was funny but i do love all the flash get stuff they're fucking nuts in a good way oh stupid gloss now only have one special hoop you got hi john hi john hi john hello john wick was too was good hello john hi john so many hi johns john is popular seriously and we use the best character objectively shami can't go back yeah man isn't it just fire what um long live spooky wean my name is john and i am indeed here also hi rags hey surprising how much uh john was just liked from the beginning i didn't expect it but there we are pretty sad he got into that car crash yeah hey mutually you still live with family no so how come you're never interrupted while streaming what do you do put a sign on the door saying do not disturb fap in progress if anybody in my household wants to get anything i can hear them coming before they get in and i'll usually just mute i am mute a surprisingly large amount it's just that it's a local mixer mute not um on screen so the whole point is that i don't interrupt anything and you guys think everything's fine um which is why sometimes you'll ask me something and i'll be delayed for a few seconds and then i'll go yeah this is this because i was muted um but yeah it's it's just so that you know some people out there don't even uh mute when they're about to burp you know they'll they'll instead turn it into a word or just try and make it as loud as fuck you game loud as fuck you game that's not as they type of burp yeah so uh yeah um just gotta be careful but you know interruptions they happen for us all be it through phone or a wild animal bursting in it's gotta try and deal with it yeah it happens killed you annoying thing part two whoo-hoo also hi john hi john glandis glad you finally made it on hi john yeah he would have said hi to all of these he's just not here he probably would have jay is making sense kick jay hi rag hey there you go all right must possibly constant why does this game why like losing all my lives in this part and it's just like it's really fucking annoying like lime green hunk uh they sent this oh my god wait is there a joke there or is it just it looks funny wait patrick will always put this out yeah but i guess i just got some good shots i don't know i just looked at the picture and it said it was funny enough it is it's kind of terrifying do do uh if i bought my birthday could be because they'd be better timing have a great stream massives hello raggles and good day to you mohler anyone else i guess oh hello happy birthday yeah thank you yeah like so i think it's hard for us to go in e-fap now without someone's birthday being happening and i've just lost three lives in a row one of them threw in a very embarrassing means i'm gonna be here for a long time folks the book doesn't support what i want so i'll write my own hashtag bible translation yeah kind of uh also you're a grown-up who can't drive and your critique support john is better uh john is fucking taken over he's just gonna be more popular in all of us which is fine i guess if things have to go that way i miss john hi john mohler john help mootle he is becoming a weeb he is playing genshin impact um metal i'm gonna cast an anti-weeb spell upon you that's okay i still play the game oh there we go i didn't die this time thank you game i also celebrate my exodus virginus today hi john exodus virginus yeah so it's a good thing to celebrate now i also oh wait uh fio is subjectism argues against objectivity oh my god much as does many yes i'd say more people do than don't to be honest but that's fine you can be wrong uh actually i'll be right but the clone was that too yeah yeah let's go with that as well that is also shitty it's like oh my god yeah uh jay's feminine avatar still triggers me well what who does that say more about how about that yeah sounds like you're a wombo pure wombo press the buttons team come on sanic all the thing okay good oh my god let's let's hope this one works this time thank you death perception oh one life left i can do this it was like one or two lives rags and mollusians play struggling for efab gaming you guys have avoided it i struggle every day in my life sounds horrifying oh but yeah i have no idea what that is this will spell in all caps i don't know if that makes a difference oh struggling or struggle struggling i'm back game was this oh my god that looks horrifying yeah physics-based core platformer physics-based oh like portal kind of see oh it's on steam let me check steam then there's a horrifying title picture though you're about to share it working into each other yeah i'm not sure what that is uh let's see um i will let the music play i will be right back again shouldn't be too long but uh you know you guys talk about porn or whatever yeah i'm just looking at struggling but that's a head flying around that looks really weird that could be fun i'm just gonna put this on my wish list there was a unicorn farting rainbows good stuff your ranks how was that booty call that wasn't a booty call i would have been gone way longer if that was a booty call give me shorter maybe they finish that quick i don't know i gotta ask like fire so who knows tell me where is it who the fuck is john you don't know john wow wow even though john is fucked up fake fan confirmed what's malo doing uh is that brb uh uh poop pooping i don't know i turned on this the stream now to watch his whatever he's doing they're like huh is he waiting to pull off some incredibly advanced hedgehog maneuver he's waiting for that for that one uh pattern for the speedrun strats come young smaller red noise blue smaller red our ead is mal maybe they is malar read well are they assuming he can't read because he's oh it's supposed to be as moldy dead was malar dead no red no i think you just have to step out for a moment coincidentally when i did it's a very odd shocking no you know the last time he left things went well so you did like a switcheroo at the exact time so oh we're in cahoots we had to discuss the next uh our secret plan for the stream yeah what's your favorite isn't rags what is your favorite horror level at a non-horror game um you don't give me a moment to think about that i couldn't tell you one whoa that enemy is going nuts does malar is kill maybe okay people watching more than doing the poop break fuck yeah that's how it there's there's a scene where you go and baiting kato's eternal wings in the last ocean there's a segment where you go into like a spooky old manner and the enemies are kind of creepy in the way that they look that might be one i wouldn't say hellblade is a non-horror game it's it's got some pretty spoopy parts to it definitely um but that's what comes to mind um trying to think of something more familiar and mainstream but nothing in resident evil 5 was even remotely approaching scary so oh resident evil 5 was just fun for the core uh hmm horror level in a non-horror game oh someone says raven hung from half life oh yeah that's not bad yeah what a bad one i don't remember that one vividly and i haven't played this game in a long time um yeah that's good um i'm hospital in bioshock that's that's that's decent that's a pretty decent answer raven home was a good one yeah um hellblade has like a 10 minute unskippable intro where like the credits and they also established the voices in her head and the things that they say and kind of what she's trying to do wow you're an idiot right she like baiting kato's origin never played it never played it someone said the library in halo c e that's a good answer that's actually a really good answer the first flood mission uh no not the library the first mission you find the flood in halo combat evolved um i would say that's a pretty darn good answer um hey rags with guild war two races objectively the greatest char obviously not even close um it is a non-horror game yeah intro of the flood and og halo yeah i would agree the damn level in cod one like i don't think i ever even played the first cod game i think two is my first one i'm pretty sure i played them but i have like zero memory of them because it's been so god damn long i'm pretty sure someone brought out witcher three yeah i'm pretty sure there's some there's some scary stuff in the witcher three stuff that's fairly spooky yeah oh it was a thing in one of the dlc's uh i think that was the that was that spooky house in flood and wine that was pretty good i think i recall i think i still have to do it i haven't finished blood and wine yet okay but so far it's been really good um let's see flood were introduced in 343 guilty spark and yes um that one yeah couldn't remember the um couldn't remember the name of the mission but i recall the mission itself very well uh done witch building and fall out three good answer good answer that's that is a really good answer yeah fries i didn't think of that so instead the opening of raising before i would i'd still consider resident evil for close enough to being a horror game but already yeah but it's isn't really scary though but if i had to pick up the scary segments they'd basically be the regenerator parts two of them where you first find the regenerators on the island and you can't like proper kill them yet i mean technically you could just fill them full of bullets and eventually kill them it's not worth it though but yeah it isn't worth it without infinite ammo basically um and then the segment where the regenerators are in those little cells let's see dead money from new vegas i don't remember that one i just got done witch again uh oh the finale of heart of stone uh so i loved gontero dim i thought he was a excellent villain i loved gontero dim uh the shame i've kind of forgotten about him but like in terms of there's so much but thinking about and being reminded of him i loved him as a um as an antagonist i thought he's a fantastic villain loved it um that's fantastic yeah just being reminded of hearts of stone and how good of a villain he is damn i need to remind myself to never forget him because some of the missions surrounding him and the sprinklings of lore that they give about him are really good and kind of spooky i think if you just enough that he's like super on the they never tip the hand too much oh yeah oh we don't want kylo ren talk about gontero dim uh the the one of the pro antagonists of um the hearts of stone dlc for the witcher three oh um and by the yes amani regenerator breathing is haunting and somebody brought up um let me try to find it that the that the um oh i saw just a second ago um let's see someone brought up one damn it um the collector level on mass fact too no um oh yes the gary vaults in fallout three those were spooky i agree i'd agree with that they were spooky are we doing like best things that were themed to be spooky or things that are actually scary best best horror parts of non-horror games like would this actually would would this level in sonic heroes count or is it just because it's i think like legitimately kind of spooky parts of games that aren't like horror games like these levels stand out hmm yeah uh because i mean i really like the halloween levels in uh hit and run but not because they're scary you know someone said what spooky is metal gear solid five's lack of content i don't agree that there's a lack of content in metal gear solid five there's plenty of content just somebody apparently said portal two is horrible in chat that upsets me oh rags have you ever played amnesia machine for pigs if so thoughts i've played it for like three hours and i stopped um there's a hollow clone of amnesia yeah it's mechanically neutered um and the scares are much more superficial they're not like crafted it's very much it's just just cheap spooks so like technically they work but it ain't the same it's it's lazier horror but i'll probably go back and finish it eventually the ending this was pretty fun there's a big speech at the end i remember really liking um but so so weird game that you can tell frictional didn't make is the problem um please be good rebirth gonthro dim equals god not very subtle not god no he's way closer to being a like their version of the devil not god no mulla soba sounds like robo which is a boring baxicate movie all right that is a shame how wonderful that um yeah we uh we carry on those the more examples we're looking for not you can continue we spent a lot of um sweet um where was the last thing i did grown up who can't drive and your critique support john is better i remember saying that i miss john hi john i also celebrate my oh yeah i did read that one uh oh struggling that was a lot something did hot takes rags is better than john coltake jay needs to be kicked yeah i mean is it a hot take the rags is better than john or is that a coltake i don't know i suppose i'll have to let everyone decide happy life ericsson day my dudes leaf ericsson day you discovered america right viking shadow the edgehog is my favorite sonic tism i think that's it's fair that he's your favorite he was designed to be liked i'm sure of it he's got a gun motorcycle he's all black and he's brooding and tortured he's got a really troubled history he's like kyla ren now the shadow fans would like excuse you like i'm sorry mother fio didn't bring up lightsaber helicopters there for his critique support that wasn't in tcw i was at rebels yeah that was rebels okay i have not watched rebels i know not if i have the strength i it would be weird for you to go for that one when that one's considered shit by clonwals fans it's like going to the bottom of the barrel with that one um the best thing about the clonwals were the clones they were the best characters i won't back down on that also high rags also also halloween yes but also no also no who's the best character in the clonwals fio ah who the fuck is you're gonna have to give me a second well while you think about that we have this controversial comment um well the spoobs of mario 64's ghost house level do not hold up when you play as an adult uh i imagine they're not going to be as scary as when you were a kid but you know the the spooky piano that tries to eat you is still scary even for 90 year old mature man it's probably one of mall hondo and cad bane just because they're like the only three characters the exhibit character traits fuck off game just this is just so boring i may as well reset because i've lost a life early on okay not again it's all right this is the way that's what they say when things are shit right this is the way i can't say that um oh they did say high rags as well um if you have invulnerable skin and a bomb goes off in your bum wouldn't the blast be contained within your body instead of painting the room high rags you know what that's an insightful comment that's one that was asked in eric kripke's am a and if i'm remembering this correctly he said that you shouldn't let logic get in the way of a good emotional payoff how does that work out eric the show isn't shambles just say it but uh yeah i hope it's becoming clear how that mindset is poisonous like it'll eventually just infect everything yeah it's also even um sorry it's uh stupid that we got anyways just imagine it just explodes from the inside it just crumbles into himself like um so it's a horrifying scene i think you could make it so he blows up and there's just loads of like red veins throughout all of his skin on top as in like something clearly has gone wrong inside him and he like slowly falls over and he just like slimes down the only thing you're missing at that point is the visual metaphor of uh will hui choose to get his hands dirty and he's splattered by guts is like the i mean i guess when he explodes from the inside you can have him like have blood explode out of his fucking nose and yeah you can do that no problem i think it'd be cool if he was just walking away there was a smuffled and then he just like collapsed and fell over because his insides were just scrambled um yeah that's what we just said is it's totally optional but uh it's just if the guy was like you have to do that but you also have to get hui covered in blood in some way it's like we could still do that too uh i think that's what they're going for and that's the process that i think we should value when you want two things to happen and you work really hard to and when i say two things i mean one of them is the emotional payoff and one of them is the strict adherence to reality the reality of the universe the hard part is making them come together don't shy away from it just because you want the explosion together like it shortly that's like michael bay logic like yeah just get the explosion fuck it it's not okay when he does it but it is when someone we like does it that seems wrong to me uh hey i'm the guy that said that music in amnesia ruined the game for me in hindsight i was being too harsh i did enjoy the game but the music kind of made some encounters predictable i prefer when horror games force you to go into the monster's turf not the other way around but they but it does there's several there's several times in the game where um you're like i even remember commenting about this uh like it was a big moment when i was playing i was in the prison for the first time i was first playing the game and i was like i'd moved through the prison i'd found the glass jar and i knew that i had to fill it with acid and i knew i had to go out back out there to get from the room i'm in to the room i need to go and through it will be through the prison where i know there are monsters around and so i'm just like okay like i know i can do it it's just fucking scary that's all and so i would argue that the the game definitely and soma does it as well where it's like you need this thing it's over there by the way and you're like oh um but of course sometimes they do have it so that you're in what could be considered a safe place and then a monster enters it and you're like oh shit so you know um that's why the water monster encounter is so terrifying you have to go in the water to progress there's no other option and weird limits up who i understand and that's all right um i just think that there's a lot if you remember joseph anderson said like there's no all the monsters are just the amnesia type in soma and he was like fucking categorically wrong they have a bunch of new ideas for how monsters work one of them being um the the dude who like teleports in the down ship that you have to go through um the girl who's almost exclusively based on your making sound like she's blind but um and she sits down it's just if you walk too fast or you drop something she gets pissed off it's like they're clearly trying new things and that's what i'm hoping for in amnesia rebirth is something where i go oh shit that's a good idea i didn't even think about that mechanically though uh recently rewatched the clone wars and it's okay never thought it was great but it has its moments the original clone wars mini series is way better it doesn't have its moments it has one moment it has one singular moment in its entire runtime that genuinely impressed me what was that it's a moment in the embarrer arc uh it wasn't even like that great from a writing perspective it was just a well orchestrated scene when uh the clones identify and find out that they've been led into basically just team killing each other in a big firefight it was a it was a well done reveal and that that scene was put together well they did good it was the only time the series ever impressed me so props for that sorry i'm not kind of it's all right um hey spoiler free thio tell people what your perspective on buffy is after the last episode you just watched who sent that oh okay no i just said that it wasn't super chat oh okay uh geez um to use the word impressive again that was outstandingly so the show is very capable there's it's clear there's very capable people behind it like writing it even if it's you know well the first couple of seasons uh i'm i'm pleased with it it's it's good so far just finished the boy season two episode six dear god what a shit show some of the worst dialogue i've heard what a disappointment so six which one's that it all bled together except for episode three seven and eight i know that which ones those are let me get a look see what um how many have you seen theos it's still four uh yeah still four no it's lucky no rory vespa i'm actually not that hard to impress with media i have generally fairly low standards i think by comparison to the people here episode six oh wow what does that mean theo yeah theo wait what's insulting about saying you guys have oh i think we're a bunch of hoid and toidy holier than now bunch of patrick williams is wait episode one is the one in the hospital oh the hospital one was shit yeah yeah um yeah theo likes loads of really bad anime so okay hey would you even know that i guessed it i'd have probably right uh yeah thinking on it probably but you know i like good anime too there we go i didn't even take a hit this time guys we're doing great we're gonna win yeah um hello guy you guys are starting the new season strong rags did great on episode one and two one or three keep it up also hi rags oh hello and thank you i'm glad you're really liking it and i do think they've been some pretty good episodes yeah like i'm happy with the writers so far um it's nice to see all the all the gas recurring and a couple catch-up ones that didn't make it on tf100 you know i like what they're doing with the show they do like it and the production values man those those new graphics you know really cool good good job managers slash producers um there are countless anime in different genres written by different authors across the span of decades and you think it's unlikely for a single one of them to not have certain tropes is that directed at me rags or both of us i'm fine with tropes being in things yeah i i think didn't i actually say last time this came up that um western tv shows if you call that a genre has the exact same thing um for example the episode where a character is bigoted towards some idea and by the end of it they realize they were wrong like that'll probably come up in almost all shows ever uh does that mean it's bad it's like no but um if you could call it a trope the whole thinking out loud dialogue shit that anime does it's like yeah i really find that annoying whenever it comes up um i would say it's in all of them and some of it is executed in a way that makes a lot more sense i would i would argue i don't know if that answers whatever the question is sort of like there but yeah it's a large genre um the only thing i think was wrong about theos tag was that he said anakin went bad when in reality he decided to stay on the weird force planet so he wouldn't become Darth Vader clearly he didn't stay there no i thought he i thought he said he died and got like resurrected how does it work anakin didn't get anakin didn't die and get resurrected uh he just he got that would be crazy fuck off why did it kill me i have three coins and you fuck you carry on i think i think it was yeah maybe i'm remembering that wrong because i thought he was in alliance with the sun to go and do things whatever the sun was up to being you know incarnation of the dark side the ears i didn't think his plan was just to hang out on force planet uh so anakin stayed on the planet because he knew he'd become Darth Vader and he wanted to die but he doesn't end up dying he doesn't end up dying and end up staying on the planet clearly uh i don't i don't remember that being his intention maybe yeah maybe i'm just stupid and forgot i don't think that was his intention thank you massive for making ink tober much more fun for me i can listen to your beautiful voices while i draw oh yeah man uh e-faps had a really active time in this month already only a third through who knows what other surprises are to come uh hey guys i know you laugh at the whole not supposed to make sense but what do you think of genres such as lovecraftian or neil gayman so there are contextual reasons for something to be in appearance as nonsensical um like we talked about this fucking with uh uh contrivances they're just things that we didn't know why they happened if they if they could be explained in a way that's a cause and effect in real life there will be a context for that in shows and stuff it's like it's up to the right to get us the context we need to understand why it happened versus why it was lucky um the the idea of like lovecraftian is something that's not meant to be understood doesn't mean it wouldn't be possible like in that fiction that uh an entity or a thing that exists that can be comprehended in a very very limited way by the humans or whatever i don't see how that would be um an impossibility a lot of uh people rely on the fact that they don't give information to the audience to get away with stuff not making sense potentially like look at the fucking tracking fobs the amount of time we took trying to talk to chat about the potential of what they are and then figure out whether or not they make sense because the show is deliberately vague about it because those things can crack stars open in a really bad way um but i still think they do that uh whether or not we can figure out definitively what they are tracking be it a body signature or an area of land or a coordinate you know um so it's all case by case um of course there's room for things that don't appear to make sense on the surface uh or there's something that the characters of the world and by extension the audience don't have the context to be able to make sense of it um which is fine i guess if it does that cover it i don't know i don't know if anyone else has has input on the the idea of things not making sense is something that can make sense i mean it it sounds cop outy dangerous territory but i don't like me too many hard and flash rules like i don't want to rule out like concepts such as absurdism and you know just going really really abstract but but it seems i don't know how i would articulate some kind of standard about making sense with relation to those things i just don't know that lovecraft is a good example of that because it's just supposed to i don't think lovecraft is yeah i wouldn't go there i don't even know who i'd point to even in i mean what about like um allison wonderland and through the looking glass i wonder if unreliable narrator can count as something that doesn't make sense technically speaking but under a certain lens you can justify it as actually making sense in that it doesn't make sense an example that i will use um is knives out in a positive sense here i go so when ransom describes the events i believe when he leaves the room of the house he doesn't do anything with the grandmother but when his mum i think is recanting events he like puts a hand on it as if to be like i love you before he leaves so we see those two flashbacks and they're two different flashbacks but oh i guess tlj could count as well like hey aren't those two things incongruous and you'd be like oh well the context is that they they are being described by two different people who have two different perceptions of the events so yeah i would just need more cases to be able to go over how i would take it maybe things like a race ahead i don't know yeah um maybe we'll we'll talk about that sort of thing in more depth within another time with different uh subjects as they come um i've spent enough time in the bush busy at hard yakker with my folks to believe some drongo tell in a fair fee probably fringy okay mola rags and crew are the real boys i reckon we could uh boy heroes we could fuck them up they won't stand a chance against us we'll use the powers of the long set your superpower the long yeah it's horrifying in the r-rated vision i just elongate people until they break open and everything spills out oh jesus that is pretty horrifying yes just gotta be done just gotta be done look really good uh mutually how dare you nitpick these stories breaking plot elements for shame hey you know it i realize now that that's just it's not even it's a it's not even like a special time that sometimes happens just that's how it goes everything that's new that comes out we will be trying to apply the same template and i think some people will get very upset about it depending on what the thing is and of course we could be wrong i'm just accounting for the fact that uh it's an experience when a certain uh outlook that you've been using on one thing to tear it apart is then turned on something that you previously were like whoa this is good though and uh sometimes you're gonna make people a bit upset you know yeah sure it is like this robot is upset but i'm murdering him very slowly don't die i think i'm hitting his feet or something hey muller i was listening to ifa on my phone and my grandmother overheard and thought you were howard stew in congrats i guess how do i sound like howard stew yeah i i um i don't hear it myself yeah we our voices on even a little bit close but um hey you know nice to hear the grandmother compare me to to how it's doing i i i suppose you see ifa is the modern howard stew in show i guess maybe like you both speak english yeah that's that the accent's a little bit different the pitch is a little different the context the dress a little bit you know there's some stuff there molly your bowjack take is trash i refuse to accept that rick and morty is objectively better than bowjack just admit your bowjack is subjective all right um evil hero diamond cat your uh rick and morty take is trash i refuse to accept that bowjack is objectively better than rick and morty just admit that your rick and morty take is subjective there you go i did it in reverse um such a weird thing to pull just admit it i guess they think i'm like i know that i'm lying or something uh you know that your criticisms are actually just subjective totally but you're passing it off as you being objective um i'm fucking we we spent a while ripping into bowjack i think for any real fucking shit ton of good points and uh and i broke down like the biggest drama in the last season is all based on bullshit so uh rick and morty on the other hand despite being a completely absurd show when it does its dramatisms it's usually maintained pretty strongly um and the characters are very consistent i don't know what else to say um like i said at the beginning it's sad to me that rick and morty is like almost shat on for its quality just because of the fact that it's just gotten memed a lot so people don't take it as seriously as they could shut up objective man um rick and morty's got some funny shit i might even show rags it just to just to so we get some context see what he thinks yeah i haven't seen it really maybe maybe watch the pilot and then you can decide if you want to see more because pilots pretty good um but it's okay um i've seen a lot of people very upset with my bowjack take and i knew that was gonna happen and it's just that's just how it is i'm not gonna be lying to you folks i mean bowjack seems like trash to me but he said seems chat he said seems yeah i think that some people are backspacing oh oh god um i should have been lishing in oh look the next super chat says bowjack is absolute garbage hey my kind of people not a hot tank my pig is this is a new pet park privy at rags simping for my favorite vtubers listening to you in the background lads put down willams with both barrels that's weekend warrior jesus wow well you like barrels full of like like wine like wine barrels it takes alcohol to get through his videos is that what you meant that's obviously what he meant he didn't mean he had to drink two barrels of alcohol to get through a yeah that's probably a minute it's so narrow here you're right sanic oh my god don't kill me okay we passed the pot that i died like three times on with just one life this time good good um i was gonna resub to prime video for boy season two so here's the money to you evil ones instead damn oh wow well um what else is on prime video i was trying to think if it's still worth it because i mean i can't recommend the boys in any honestly i'd be like though uh but there's probably some good shows on there i just have to look at the library hey you can get buffy on it there you go can't get angel though and that's a crime against humanity then again the fact that using the remaster is kind of a crime against humanity so there you go buddy oh my god this is like the best run i've had uh finally an e-fap on my day off hello wags these scritchies oh hello boy how very what for the good boy scritches oh yeah i'll fucking love those there are currently 2,500 viewers assuming that there is an equal chance of someone being born on any given day which might not be true but i don't know i don't have the statistics on that uh given the above assumptions there is a 99.89 chance of at least one viewer's birthday being on any given e-fap in fact there will most likely be seven or more birthdays per e-fap huh oh my god i bet you didn't think about that just the tour sticks all right the way you do that is you have to stay back you can't get like even slightly closer it'll fuck up okay so we've done part one of three let us do the tails portion oh i'm so excited uh i was worried that when Theo starts on clone wars but in the end it didn't bother me as much as i thought it would but to say Ahsoka becomes a Mary Sue nah like i said i'm not sure on that one but the thought definitely crossed my mind multiple times specifically in that last arc yeah i got i got no context for that one but it doesn't surprise me that people would push back on it yeah she's a beloved character by my understanding today go ahead yeah i i had heard from people that they were concerned that at first she was a Mary Sue and then she unmarry sued eventually i wouldn't call her a Mary Sue towards the star she's more kind of obnoxious because she messes like she messes up a bunch so like that kind of squalifies from Mary Sue category for the most part but never gets significantly punished for it like nothing happens as a result of any of her mistakes really in fact there's a point where she gets a bunch of clones and that killed and then a cruiser destroyed and is met with just a promotion well so good job fail up fail upwards man yeah it's a commentary on real life uh it's commentary on how terrible the rest of the command of that army is like you only lost one cruiser fuck yeah good job promotion Anakin loses three a week poor Anakin he's beta you can tell by the imperial march music yeah they play every time he does something if someone's following him around with horns and everything i do i'm playing that music dude your side are you on that sounds kind of ominous dude jump high knuckles you can do it there you go buddy all right i still feel like oh this is the furthest i've gotten and i have three lives guys i'm actually excited right now don't jinx it um have you thought of streaming phasmophobia i hear it's really spoopy yes actually we talked about it uh not a half hour ago we will probably do it if i can touch his arm and i get hurt like knuckles you suck you're supposed to be the strong one we streamed it yesterday we didn't wait on your stream do we yeah fuck my memories are sieve yeah we did play that yesterday with fortia and wolder i think i'm mixing it up with i played like one random game with rags and fortia before like at one point last night it was just like out of the blue it was before the boys that was a weird night that was a really weird night but i'm glad it worked out that way because it meant that i got to like not if so originally i thought that the boys was gonna come out at three a.m my time and the plan was we watched the boys at three that takes an hour or so then we stream after that then at like seven or so i had to leave well because it's friday so i had to leave it around seven or so and i've probably gone begun until like noon noon 30 so and then we would have done an e-fap after that so i would have had a hell of a long day on friday but luckily it released before three so i had chance to do things like sleep yeah my uh my sleep schedule ended up benefiting from it fuck you okay so i was one bad guy away from completing that section he hit me and i bounced off the end of the map so it's just it just killed me and i've reset to the point where i'm i didn't even realize the reset was this far but i gotta do the part that i regularly die on again so life is fun um like i said expect a full e-fap super chat catch up of just sonic the fucking hedgehog all right happening uh mulan was such garbage and seeing you watch the original reminding me of how good it was how did they turn into such a horrible turd disney being incredibly bad at making movies trying to appeal to china wanting to just i mean it's crazy that the originals are now considered like downright edgy compared to what they're doing now and i could have just been normal uh yeah disney's lost it's it's a bite now it's just like super the obsession with money is becoming clearer and clearer i'd say and mulan was a huge backfire that'd be cool to hear the discussions in boardrooms about wouldn't it yeah like what the fuck what happened this was so calculated this was supposed to work you fucks we filmed next to the concentration camps we keep the communists happy god i hate doing that all righty back to squid fucking 17 okay ran toward a platform and bounced into it and it bounced me right and i just ran off the platform killed myself just it's just too much fun i can't handle this much fun uh any of you bill and tad fan bill and ted fans if so thoughts on face the music uh efab 102 i think south born i talked about it for a little bit i thought face the music was terrible and i like the face to bill and ted's second quite a lot actually pretty neat i haven't seen any of those movies oh there you go i got nothing efab movies super mario bros i mean yeah we could do that at some point someone suggested efab movies incredibles and incredibles too and i'd be interested in doing that actually because it's it's kind of like moulin not as bad as moulin but we can get a lot of discussion about why the first one's good and why the second one fucked up um so that that might be something we'll think about dude at some point gee oh you took all my stupid hoops my stoopes my stoopes knuckles can you fuck this guy up good fuckles that is his name i should have used my stupid ulty on that asshole uh also i always get hit by a ghost in this pond i got no hoops i like holding them hoops now it feels derogatory uh isn't that what i i i would call him that without even thinking i call him hoops stupid spooky pumpkins oh my god i need to kill myself again okay now i have hoops you fucker you did it again oh my god so uh yeah i need to remember not to walk into a wall because it will make me instantly throw myself off an infinite platform place because that's what sonic does sonic heroes rags on your moulin stream you constantly mock chinese traditions government social and cultural norms is a ton of money good boy no i i don't think i mock all of the mock all of those like china used to be fucking badass and cool and now i can't separate china from its fucking totalitarian communist regime which is a shame because the aesthetics of uh like you know the imperial era of china you know the han dynasty and stuff like that is super cool and a lot of their imagery is really nifty too but fuck you just can't look past what they are today and how it just bleeds into everything and how china is fucking ruining everything yeah man uh lots of well-founded joker runes unless that's the part of the enjoyment of ripping into moulin in like look at who you're trying to please disney it's a bit weird um there was only one real hot take a lost episode brussel sprouts are disgusting rags no not at all i'm gonna brussel sprouts are really great when you roast them and season them they're legitimately delicious and i like them quite a bit i would go as far as saying some stuff does taste different to some people and and the some stuff some people don't like some stuff other people do like brussel sprouts taste like death to me they always have huh every way you've had them um yeah i don't think there's been a time like there's been times where they're better or worse than others or whatever but they mostly fit into that tier and um it's not like i'm anti-vegetable i'm not that star wars girl i don't just eat candy or whatever i in fact there's some vegetables that are pretty sweet and i i'm like you know what you're a cool dude i want to have you over for my birthday but the brussel sprouts aren't them what are you gonna say metal you fuck i forgot because you've rudely uh set things was it about bustle sprouts maybe i don't know this wasn't important obviously okay um i don't get very far in cotel one because the gameplay underwhelmed that was pretty much jay's take i think oh i want to team blast this guy you i'm not gonna i know right it's just like team blast this guy um oh no oh no infinite death yep i got pulled into him on the first hit so i couldn't get any of my gay hoops and then he hit me a second time before i was able to grab any so he just killed me and i'm just gonna reset because i can't lose that life i should have used team blast all over him today's been pretty awful but hoping time with efap and chat can cheer me up love you guys yeah okay i hope tomorrow is better for you man and i hope we helped out a bit don't worry you agree with all the hot takes so it felt like it just a normal day yeah i hope that instead of hating your life you hate us instead we'll be we'll be your lightning rod of hate here at efap yay yay that's what we do shout out to drunk three pio hi rags hello um yeah i know him he's uh he's found a menace person i believe that's right yeah also someone said re4 spooky pick one rags those aren't okay re4 it's spooky let me clarify for a second here spooky to me is totally what re4 is scary yeah it's a different thing yeah it's not scary it's got a short it's got a couple short little scary segments but it's it's it's it's spooky throughout i happily call it spooky yes it is a spooky tether by the way efap layout isn't spooky it's cute that that okay so we don't want to scare our audience away i would argue scary plus cute equals spooky i'd say that no it's spooky that's like yeah i mean two degree well i still think that's kind of what spooky is a lot of the time as well but no no it's spooky i wasn't i just i just i didn't really use spoopy at all but i guess let's put it this way right if if if both um the efap cover would qualify and the resonable four it can't be called simply cute plus scary because that's not what resonable four is but i would say it's just two halves of the spooky uh look if you want to call it spoopy i'm okay with that i so here's oh here's my take here's i'm gonna i'm gonna give my opinion on this podcaster right so i think spoopy that's what i use when something is not real like like our our pumpkin and the little ghost that's spoopy right like it's a it's a cutesy non-serious use of spooky imagery that's spoopy spooky is something that's like legitimately somewhat like it's like resonable four is spooky right the ghosts in super mario they're spoopy they're spoopy right see what i'm getting at yes okay that's what i i'm good i thought the categorizations i made them clear i was like so you you would call it spoopy where i would just put them all under the the spooky category because i just didn't even consider spooky a description so i think spooky and spoopy while related and somewhat similar that they're cousins of one another but they can't legally marry you know right like i said i just didn't think of spoopy as an actual but i'm okay with it oh yeah spoopy's real um how would you describe my avatar spooky scary or spoopy um i'm saying that it's not actually like trying to scare people you know but it's using scary imagery like the fangs in the blood so i'd say yours is spoopy now mine is going to be spoopy too once mine's done i i i oh i would say mine's spooky not spoopy while yours i think so yeah i mean look at it oh mine right now mine mine is i mine's sort of spoopy because it's got the jack planters and one of them especially in the back he's mean it was spoopy pumpkin but that's why i'm not inside of him i'm in the one he was he like this this one in the middle like he doesn't regret it he's just trying to this is an odd sensation for him because he's like dark and slippery on the inside as pumpkins are they're kind of they're kind of goopy recommend the experience to his other pumpkin friends um so oh have you ever carved a pumpkin is that something you do over in a absolutely in whatever part of the universe you live in walesland as they call it walesland dude you do the jack-o-lantern carving mm-hmm i'm i'm i don't want to toot my own horn here but i'm pretty good at carving jack-o-lanterns back when i had a a job at this hotel and they'd do the all the departments would do like the contests and stuff i was the person who would get no matter where i was i would be put in charge of making the department jack-o-lantern you don't think that was just them trying to show off work to you right well so here's the thing i could do that during work like they would let because so they would let me it's like i would spend a day like a shift and i would get a pumpkin empty out all of its guts clean out the insides make the drawing cut it out with the knives and that was uh that was what i did i could do that in place of like my job job so those rags is a pumpkin fucker confirmed rags is a pumpkin carving mary sue i'm not like that good but i'm pretty good like i can't do anything elaborate but i can make a i can make a pretty darn good looking simple pumpkin face i uh and even uh even when i was you know younger and i would do it with you know uh l m and p it was they turned out really good a lot of pumpkin carving skills y'all do you like pumpkin pie do you like that i never had pumpkin pie really i'm a huge fan i'm cool though i don't know if i buy one in germany i've never seen anyone sell it well look look for one ask around uh in uh germany see if anyone has pumpkin pie because it's delicious stuff is like is fun cool in germany or no no no hmm remember the last time they tried to have fun yeah it's good it's got a bit out of hand but yeah a pumpkin pie is delicious on holiday and like pumpkin spice is something that's really seasonal over here that's also quite good yeah i want to try that shit but you can't get that shit here you what do you you have uh you just have sauerkraut pies yes is that what you have yeah in your in your schnitzel spice in your in your just brutal tisms hmm hardy i'm gonna sprinkle some breading all over that shit moulin witch bird slow enough for human to keep up fast enough to outpace an arrow also hi john well so that pot's absurd because the way they show it is the eagle is just constantly moving but if you think about it the eagle's goal is to guide moulin to the badman so it's just a matter of filming fuck ups because it's believable that an eagle could have traveled faster than we saw it when it was traveling to show me long way to go it's just a matter of them it's bad um but yeah i'm um the overall though i'm glad that uh the overall the the covering for if i was considered cute i am cool with that it's it is spoopy yes happy ghost is definitely a spoopy person happy go sir yes absolutely yes because you know you you of course are just having fun with him he's smiling you don't think about the fact that he was murdered potentially it's fine or his desire to murder i think he's hiding a lot behind that smile just saying so someone in chat said i expected a rags pumpkin just to be a hole with very christmas written too true uh quick let's get down with thrust intellect you till take on 2d games i don't know what his take on 2d games is here's a hot take i don't think zack snider is a good storyteller all style no context plus he doesn't understand superman or batman see that's a conversation for like other people all we can do is talk about like structurally what the films do the whole does zack snider understand batman is not something that i i just like i don't know maybe i know a lot of people feel he doesn't but then a lot of people feel he does it's it's just a matter of who you talk to about is the snider fans versus i guess snider uh dare i call them snider haters or there's people who don't like sniders work i don't know snators fucking snators they're like taters we may be able to do triangle jump since it's so near shut the fuck up um sonic's enthusiasm is not infectious i'm gonna get i said it well you're not going pay us i collected a bunch of rigs and started with he's happy about them rangs uh hot take star trek lower decks is funny oh shit is the hot take section i suppose uh i i've not seen an episode but i know that people aren't liking it from from a lot of it oh and that's gonna be another reason people hate rick and morty is the a bunch of anime it shows a copying rick and morty's art style so they'll be like they'll be blaming it thank you game at least that doesn't send me back too far this could still be the one feels like i'm playing fucking doxels right now doxels gotta collect them rings it's the equivalent of like getting my soul back oh god hello j i'm glad to see you're okay make a video on kotor already also hello again theo it's also nice to see you on evap hello uh j's not gonna make a video on kotor like how far did he get you say a couple of hours not far i don't think i don't know that's the whole video he just says i don't like that these enemies are bullet spongy in this area and you have to beat them to get past them people okay changes the competition around kotor and suddenly he manages to take the game down with that yeah everyone's like in fairness have you seen j's video i think he's really summarized the biggest issue yeah i couldn't get to get i couldn't get past those space dogs either to be fair i don't i have a sneaking suspicion that it has not aged well at all yeah may haps may well maybe but i don't know so i have no no idea i'm not making a statement of fact like i'm it's not like i'm talking about t-shirts and blazers so stressed out here if i hit a single pumpkin it's hard because of the way the camera is it makes it so that i have trouble even okay we're good i want to fight the big one first no i don't i want to do stupid sonic section first let's the one who let's remember about suicide so many thoughts are rushing through my brain right now this is the most intense gaming session i've ever had on super chat catch up and it's fucking sonic here it's harder than the end of simpson's hit and run i like how casually you you played through amnesia the dark descent and this is all this stress and pain no sonic you suck point in the direction press a sometimes he just doesn't home on if only shadow is here shadow be well i can play as him but apparently he's hard mode whoa of course he is hard core mode more like yeah team last in hard mode fucking bad team cool more like i haven't been dying on this part recently so i'm assuming i'm about to because i just said that oh i didn't okay oh i mean there's probably more halloween levels as well so this is gonna get even harder this is like this game just it's about becoming a true sonic fan and like understanding the mechanics the real test of your uh fandom here we go level up i hate tails's voice is tails male or female good question metal yes they go pretty sure it's supposed to be male what about slippy i don't know what that is that's the star fox character right the frog from star fox oh fucking hell sonic just press the button press the button we need to find the alien no you son of a bitch oh god how many tries i've got left to speaking of animation being childish i remember cosmonaut variety i were liking a tweet of some guy saying animation only managed to trick him as a kid and these new live action remakes of what he needs as an adult what what a shockingly stupid thing to say i mean you only like are you sure but it can't be real he liked the tweet he didn't say it that's what a like means i mean yeah i assume you approve of the message at that point but uh wow wow the animation is shocking as bad as the line between 2019 is and how shockingly bad malon is yeah like fucking hell imagine saying animation tricked you it was all the colors i swear it just got to me it was like get him weekend warrior destroy jay oh my god i mean like stupid hoops back um yeah jay came on to destroy jay but ultimately destroyed patrick will helms want to know if you only stay for 15 minutes it was kind of annoying we can more is like oh i'll stay and you left in like five minutes layers okay you didn't really did you you're a big lying doodoo head that's because i'm the i'm the greatest deal maker in the history of trade deals true the greatest deal maker you're gonna go on to stay for five minutes twice five minutes he stayed for like what do you want you just tuned out of the fist off of this you don't know what i'm doing right now it's fine i'm just gonna press the button to go across the coin lands there we go i did it i'm not gonna have my my trade deals so mocked in in such a fashion they are incredible hey game don't kill me okay let's make a deal you don't kill me i'll tell people you're good wow you work for isian or something oh my god so dodgy that whole bit is dodgy as fuck but i did it well i've not done all of it yet did you just how did you you steal my you you zap my coins out of my person that is that is some form of theft i don't like i'm not happy about this who is the spooky place they introduced his girlfriend in star fox two oh you mean crystal you mean the the the ultimate furry bait character wait for slippy no crystal oh wait wait did slippy get a girlfriend i thought they were saying that she was flippy's flip fuck frog i'm going to explore this uh yeah let me google slippy's apparently well listen slippy can have a girlfriend and still be a girl no i hate this game are you gonna not finish this game no i can't let it this this is doxels now don't heroes is the doxels of sonic games what sucks is i could have won at any point if i'd use team blast on that retarded giant man on any of the times i fought him i just didn't now i've got to get to the point where i can land on the platform with him and i win because i know about to remember to do that now but i know that the game's not going to let me because it knows that i know you had so many rings as well yeah it doesn't matter if you fall off this is like bye bye no if you're a game designer and getting getting your character knocked off platforms and insta killing you is in your game fucking change it you think so yeah fucking change it never a time where that's any good no never a single time ever not once in the history of forever i mean yeah it could but just like if you if you're designing a game air on the side of caution don't have it be a thing i'm alive it's okay never hit you here i swear to god sonic wants to kill himself at this fucking game it's like get me out of here no no why wasn't aiming forward game it's aiming to the fucking do you man i wish i was with skeletor on my team he would he would cast spells and help me it seems there's robots he man going to have to use electric magnetic pulses he man look at this fucking gameplay pretty sure someone described this as working as intended he's in the thing this is how amanda yeah it's an anthropomorphic female frog in the love future wife of starfox mechanic slivvy toad yeah that was my last life apparently in the in the star in the starfox comic series his girlfriend was crokella crokella um someone just says in florida for work fuck florida florida what is the the freaky states according to simpsons um are alaska florida and hawaii they're the weird ones apparently is this true rags right say that one more time alaska florida and hawaii are considered the freaky states in a simpsons episode is this true uh i don't know about alaska well maybe yeah that's me i mean california is the one of the freaky ones now especially that one's fucking nuts when i go to walk off an edge with knuckles or at least in this particular place they do the thing where they're like oh don't want to go off the edge there look out as if you get a few seconds to pull yourself back but when sonic fucking does it in that later episode he just fuck killed himself what's going on game hmm did you build the the railings different is that it anyway i'm alternating between new episodes and old episodes and the memes are going full circle did you plan it all out in advance yep efap has been written from episode one to one thousand uh we're just actors we've got a big script in front of us i'll tell you what uh when they introduced the whole super chat cashup thing where i have to play the game according to the script it's been difficult but i've been able to pull it off because of course if i were playing off script i would have beaten sonic a year's ages ago but apparently the the producers think it's funny if i get stuck on a game like this that's out of all the ones that i've played yeah they did some focus group studies and determined that you're more endearing to a higher percentage of audiences when you're worse at video games especially cute sea ones yeah like if this if i was losing on like amnesia or dark souls they'd be like yeah that's just you know that's almost embarrassing yeah you're supposed to so but with with with this it's like oh how funny and stupid so yeah better be working efap chat right because uh you know i'm pretty pro when it comes to sonic heroes this is awkward to pretend i'm not um that was your bojack take rags don't lie what that's it that's all it says oh i guess they think that what they originally thought it was really what well i i gave it to you anyway this is even pointless i told you what my take is that's my take the one the clarification that i made that's my position there you go i was there when you covered tonal saying the bill bow quote however the meme was around before efap where did the meme come from oh so the proto efap yeah that was uh wolf's podcast and uh we it was just a really really strong meme so just carried on the move like we should probably cover it on efap so people can actually see what video we were talking about because i'm pretty sure the bill bow meme was alive and well before we even gave people context for it you know people were enjoying the concept of bill bow having constructed all of these really insightful quotes that's our bill bow um rags can you say you got to destroy bob's rectum no i don't it's fine the way it is did you guys hear the bob chipman liked cuties yeah and he's uh people aren't gonna let him forget all the defensive shit he's done for it even um doesn't he recommended like mass reporting channels that that talk about it being like a horrible movie it's just like he's um he's really testing the powers that be uh bob in terms of getting himself booted if bob had if bob considered himself right leaning then he would have been band ages ago oh for sure um i honestly like not even meaning i don't exactly know how he's still not banned i'm almost certain he's broken several rules several times all of them but he is a checkmark so it might help him out uh you can kill two kids in kotor two on dantooine so it's not all bad jay is super wrong about kotor it's a really fun game game jay is just bad at the game maybe um yeah like he might be bad at video games it's very true it's possibility yeah um also creamy she is saying it's for the meme that thing that i need to say what was that about um how i need to destroy bob's rectum the quote is you gotta destroy bob's rectum you gotta destroy bob's rectum hopefully that worked yeah let's see i have to see that in action uh i don't know remotely enough about kotor it's a comment um and jay probably is bad at games there's a good chance you know he's not good at among us and that's the ultimate test of whether or not you're a gamer i i love this quote rags please say the rectum thing for my meme it's crucial oh that's that just that sentence is hilarious hey guys are you excited for guild wars two end of dragons what's your favorite profession and class all class i guess and what now end of dragons for guild wars two end of dragons for oh that's the next update what's my favorite class uh yep yeah what's your favorite profession slash class so my main is a is a scourge um however i've been playing uh my number two most of the time now and that's a renegade revenant um and i've been really really digging that as well so those would probably be my my two answers i don't know if i could choose between the two i used to really like miss my back in the day when i used to play long i yeah i started when it first came out and i played it for a while and i enjoyed it then i got distracted by other stuff and i just stopped playing it and it doesn't have a subscription so i never felt obligated to play it and then years later like after both of the expansions had released and everything um and like early this year like february of this year i got back into it and now i play it all the time in fact i was playing it just a second ago um but yeah really digging it quite a thing jay and i'll be just alive yeah sorry someone said guild wars two is still alive it's like yeah man mm-hmm it is um a lot of games are like that you just sort of forget about them and that's that's what happened with me i like legitimately forgot it was something that i owned and enjoyed and i just got reminded of it one day and just delved back into it it was crazy to me that dead by daylight is healthy and strong when when it first came out i played it like on release and i thought like ah this game will be dead after a few weeks still going it's like a you know full-on common multiplayer game that people check out now someone said hail the char glory to the blood clan so fucking imposter detected oh no blood clan the blood clan wow the blood gets blood legion come on blood clan kind of much ejecting from the ship ranks do it oh someone said i wish it was on steam i want to get into it so it's actually coming to steam guild wars two is coming to steam yes that shouldn't really stop you though um honestly if the fact it's not on steam shouldn't stop you from getting it it uses its own launcher and i haven't really had issues with it but yeah it's just it's it's i think as far as i know it's arena nets that the company makes it i think it's their only thing i think it's all that they do so yeah they use their own launcher but yeah it is coming out on steam uh j an rpg i think you'd like is rand six the fall of zeth good mechanics nice combat and a great story in world highly recommend anyone know what that is nope no nice little high nope rags thoughts on the situation at rooster teeth and how quickly they fired two employees i don't know anything about it i i don't know anything about it um to all do you think there is a power dynamic between content creator and fan that can be abused absolutely oh yeah definitely it's often abused by many content creators and it's really unfortunate um one of the really easy ways to slip into it by accident is uh fans who like make so i mean i don't know it's not like it's gonna be unclear what i'm referencing here so i mean it'll just be explicit um fan of a sunpiker made him like highlights of his twitch streams for his youtube channel and they did it for a while and he was like open to the idea of paying them and he only eventually did but like an incredible fraction of um whatever was in from his youtube channel and as far as he was concerned that was fair like you get what your pay is based on whatever the video earns on his youtube channel rather than being paid for the work you make and of course they were just taken by the fact that they were a fan of his work so he was more than happy to do that which is awkward considering his politics but then the second uh controversy came out where correct me if i'm wrong but he said he's gonna give his editor the means of control for production and uh that meant getting them a pc to do the work um but the pay wasn't again wasn't reflected in both editors i believe no longer work with him because they got really fucking pissed off at the shitty pay there are people who've done work for me who've said like uh a lot of content creators will run rates based on whatever the video makes rather than what their rate is which i just think is a really bad way to go about it um pay them their rates what they're worth and stuff and the reason this is always relevant is that a lot of fans will uh offer work that then becomes mainstay and there's this awkward moment where the creator is like um i guess i'll pay you and i'll try and do it a limited amount because i want to make the best stuff of you know best situation for myself it's just like oh you can try and um but then of course there's the more standard ways like utilizing your audience as a weapon or um uh getting them to like this this is a bit of a weird example i know who i'm thinking about there's no reason to name names people who are like trying to win certain things by submitting their work somewhere and there's a voting system so they just get their group of fans to vote for them it's like that's not very uh fair to the other fucking makers damn i'm dead again did the pc get seized no he said that to be in line with his socialist ideas he gave the person like he provided them a pc thus they have control of the means of production that was what his justification was which is uh he had to get told about the means of production being more so the youtube channel rather than the pc itself because he thinks that means like they're they're paid up at that point or some shit it was this whole thing it was fascinating to read about yeah i i bet if you ask 10 different socialists what the means of production actually is you might get 10 different answers it's a very amorphous kind of term yeah uh all i'm suggesting is it's so easy for content creators to both maliciously and accidentally take advantage of fans you just gotta be careful um i'm pretty sure this like i i wouldn't even remotely try and name names but there's the classics of like they meet up in real life and then uh try and get certain things out of fans that there could be a little more than just uh work or whatever super dodgy too good old power dynamics and desperation from fans to be able to do x y and z just have to try and be careful treat everybody as you would normal people regardless and the classic advice content creators are not gods don't treat them that way but you know at the same time um it's understandable that people can freak out when meeting people that they've uh like do you know have we ever talked about this on e-fab but like the the idea of meeting someone you've only ever known as someone who's just inspiring to you or entertaining be careful when you be careful when you meet your heroes yeah well i meant like the good one fuck off sonic you shit so like the the good results where you meet someone and you're like they're a really nice person and they're everything you thought of and you can like freak out because it's just like that's them in flash holy shit that sort of thing people said that about me not gonna lie well there you go uh when i met uh giles from buffy in real life and same for spike i i was having trouble staying composed because it's fucking bizarre to have them on screen for your entire life and then they're in in front of you flesh and blood it's um kind of hard to describe but of course you do your best to not uh act like a fucking idiot that sort of thing that's actually a story the giles one that was uh partially embarrassing i um i was trying to come up with a good question i nailed it with with spike because i'd had experience at that point with with giles i uh i was like okay so uh hmm uh actually to rewind it was in um i think it told this story on a different stream but it wasn't e-fap so there we go uh he's in cardiff the capital of wales it's like a comic con thing and he was there and um the cues for him were enormous because buffy is still he loves to a degree same with a lot of like cult tv shows um and it looked like we weren't going to be able to uh see him which was like the whole fucking reason i was there so i was very sad and then uh everyone broke for lunch time so the whole queue left and he hadn't gone yet he was just sort of like uh i don't know just just getting stuff ready to leave and uh we were still standing there because we hadn't realized that that was when everyone was supposed to leave it was uh me and my sister who who loved the show as well and then we would just like um we sort of just started moving close from closer and then you saw us he was like uh we were like uh he was like do you want to do it do it do the thing okay and uh i was like stressing out because it was this seemed so rad of stuff he was like do you want something inside do you want to get a picture or whatever he was like yeah yeah yeah and uh he was in buffy and um merlin was the other show that he was like he's like well known folks he was on it for a while i think he was the king author in that oh is he king author's dad i forget chat's gonna know uther yeah he was uther i think um and so like that's on the backboard where um they would be like this is what this person's known for and so i had a genius thought i was like i'll ask him which of the two shows he liked more and in my head i thought that was a good question and i asked him that of course as someone who's there to promote both and for fans of both you wouldn't really want to put one above the other you'd be like no they're both cool so he was like yeah i really enjoy both of them they're uh you know they're both different characters both a lot of times so uh yeah both and i was just like staring at him like uh i don't know what else to ask because i think he realized pretty quickly that i didn't actually care about that that's why i just wanted him to talk but um yeah the second time around i talked to uh james monsters about smallville because i know all of his shit about buffy so it's just like what was it like being brought on to play braniac and how many people actually like talked to you about it and stuff it was uh pretty cool oh my god i'm autopiloting better now than ever when i'm concentrating do you guys ever have that with games you autopilot better than when you concentrate in so fucking annoying sometimes when you're concentrating you decide well don't decide you just start to have a think yeah everything yeah meeting people is really cool when it goes well i guess that's my overall point yeah that's agreeable yeah oh sonic you did it again i swear to god i'm gonna have to pull real far in terms of like the analog stick okay so i know further than we were who have you guys met anybody the famous tisms uh i met george durstakai um i've met uh i i i had a long chat with aria speed wagons bus driver once he was pretty cool dude um let's see uh i gotta remember michael sarah i saw him once checked him into hotel neat um i michael let me remember the name um uh trevor collins is that the name uh no uh i forget he played the translator and saving private ryan uh oh he was in lost as well come up them right no no i'm i got the guys i i forget i used to know he was in other stuff uh that's not the guy i i got it mixed up oh um uh who else i don't think anyone else too famous that wasn't like a local personality or something like that um i saw journey when they were there at the hotel uh yeah it's pretty cool yeah they're pretty nifty um yeah that's all that really comes to mind um vincente fox uh at the time he was the president of mexico saw him you've ever been to like a convention you think to meet any pop culture people no um you just sort of run into him here and there um the ml have you done any of that oh um i don't think so i can't believe i forgot i uh i delivered some so you know pink yeah i delivered something to her room once neat yeah we had a some convention here near me once uh there was some people from battlestar galactica there uh galactica i don't remember the names uh christopher judge was there that was kind of cool so a panel of them he that's right as you remember someone asked him uh there was like shortly after some better than that's a galactica uh stargaze episodes and the uh someone decided to uh that the tl gets a beard like a little little soul patch i think it was and someone asked whose idea was that it was kind of kind of dumb for something he said and just was just like actually it was my idea that's always awkward yeah it was kind of fun and then they were like uh there was like a little after show party i think we just sticked around uh for a little bit i don't remember it very well it was like fucking ages ago oh this is so shit sorry it didn't work again yeah i just remember the time was cool because i think we talked a little bit to someone because we we were watching the battlestar galactica show back then at least i watched it last season only for some reason it was really weird i think my friend watched it and i watched it with him i was kind of interested but i don't remember anything from the show so yeah it was kind of cool still it's like a neat little thing to do yeah yeah i was like it's um it's fun to meet these people and a lot of them can live up to uh what you're expecting i i misremembered it i just remember because i remember being cringy at the mouse explaining it i'm pretty sure i asked him if he liked both of the shows not that if he liked filming them and of course he was he was locked into like one simple answer and i realized afterward that i was like that was probably stupid um yeah uh so yes content creators can take advantage of the viewers slash fans very easily um i don't know if we've covered all the different ways or whatever but um gotta be careful about it especially with the whole i think more and more people be coming away is but you see the word floating around uh parasocial relationships as in yeah people getting like you're my friends i've never met you but you're my friend aiden aiden has a really good video on parasocial relationships and i think she brought it up during one of our um e-faps the topic came up and you want to be careful with that um if i remember tall biscuit actually was unhappy with how pewdiepie would do the whole bros and bro fist thing because he was like you're encouraging people to feel as though that you're someone who's closer to them than you are in reality and it can fuck with their heads and stuff i don't know about that yeah well this is the thing it's um it's like i don't think either extreme is the right way to go as in tell people yeah falsely you're all my friends you're all my good friend versus no fuck you all you you know nothing about me stay the fuck away like it's like it's not either of those yeah but i i think that if if you're the kind of person who actually thinks that you have some kind of real relationship with someone whose content you like that you've never met never spoken to or anything like that you have a problem and you need to get help yeah and i say that's probably applicable whether or not you end a video saying how it will start with how's it going bros and end on a bro fist i feel like that's yeah absolutely yeah the idea that that leads people to think i mean that that's not a standard that you could ever justify really like oh you make videos that people like well that's going to increase the chance of people forming parasocial relationship with you yeah and you know it would have been interesting to talk to a tv about it like what he thinks the proper handling of it all would be because i would just be like it's inevitable you just try and do what you can here and there and i think total biscuit was fairly he stayed fairly cut off from his fan base from what i recall he kind of yeah he was very concerned about the potential people believing that they have a relationship with him beyond consumer of his perspective sort of thing you just wanted to make sure the line was clear i think yeah like with me i like sometimes people do come to me in dms and stuff and they are i almost want to say uh infatuated almost but i'm i'm always very very quick to lay down exactly what you know what's going on because i don't want people i don't i don't want people to labor under the impression that we're actually like friends i take that term pretty seriously yeah i do too um i want people to like me sure and i want to like people you know but there is a like i don't i don't know you i'm glad that you're helping me and supporting me and being part of our audience and supporting the channels and the podcast and everything but we're not friends it's a complicated uh connection and it it doesn't mean it's not meaningful it's just that you know don't um bank on it hugely as some kind of like you it's because it alone yeah like i feel feel betrayed and it's like oh no it was never that though yeah i think it's safe to say that both maulin myself and all of us like we have a legitimate and sincere appreciation for our audience and we legitimately are happy that our audience enjoys our content but you know there's we don't want to lead you on into some false parasocial relationship thing yeah yeah yeah so that was quite a chunky answer there you go think that covered it hope so um i don't know where i was 2j what do you think of minecraft update well i don't know what he thinks yes uh two cat the cath hounds weren't bullet sponges j didn't build his character right you did nothing wrong rags so um with the game like cotor much like um dragon age origins much like hell uh divinity original sin one and two uh i could see how you could make a character poorly and that can fuck you over and that can ruin your experience especially with dragon age origins as amazing as that game is you really can kind of make shitty characters and not get good equipment and you could sort of get fucked uh by that game because that is not an easy game it is a difficult game um makes it really great to be but it takes practice and a lot of getting used to the mechanics it's very rewarding but i remember my first time sort of playing through that game it wasn't really like anything else i'd played before and it kicked my ass and i really had to learn it and look at builds and make characters a certain way um oh yeah push back a little on built his character wrong is it supposed to be a thing you can build a character wrong in an opg well in the sense that you make a character who is extremely underpowered and in a way that's almost like the game doesn't intend for perhaps well if we use dark souls an example right you're supposed to be able to level technically speaking anything but it does uh sort of peter out eventually so if you put 50 points in and your return is two strength every time you do it and then as soon as you put it to 51 it's one strength as if it's scaling down you're like oh shit you should notice that and so if you carry on plugging into strength instead of taking advantage of how lower levels of other things will give you better benefits i would consider that like you might be building your character wrong i just wouldn't wouldn't want to be too hasty on saying you're building a character wrong and i think that's yeah i was i wasn't saying like yeah well it was correct but oh all right um but yeah when i said that i meant like a way that is suboptimal to the point of frustration in the way the game isn't really designed around um but yeah um i could see how building a character very poorly can ruin your enjoyment of the game and make you think it's unfair or just getting flat out frustrated by it um obviously we have no context on what jay was doing so it's possible yeah yeah maybe uh especially if it's your first time like i i i would be legitimately curious if i could if i could click my omniscient powers and find out what's the percentage of people who played dragon age origins and they just got fed up with how difficult it was and they weren't familiar with how the game worked for the mechanics or the system and so they gave up thinking that it wasn't a good game you know what percentage of people you know players experienced that um i i would be curious to know or you could do the dragon age or or sort of the third age route where you could just flat out jack of all trades all your characters and you could still break the game so yeah i don't know what to say about third age i feel like what we saw was the exploits on like low like imagine you plugged all into one i don't know man like it just seems like that game is rife with exploits and yet those people were like oh it's so great you being too harsh to it i'm like come on you could just go back to the starting areas and just uh put one of those uh high level weapons you know some of those earlier enemies you can just put them to sleep and just use the other skills that don't deal any damage and just stack and stack and stack the points oh i see what you mean yeah yeah you could do that pretty much any point in the game as long as you've got um idril healing everyone because some of the enemies are just too like pitiful to be able to stop you um though i would say to a degree that that's all right in the the deterrent is boredom we think we talked about this when i was doing the same catch up like it takes a long time to do it and is that enough of a like almost a mechanical balance that like yeah you can make yourself op if you want it was going to take a really long time um and it's just not fun to do he's pressing a over and over again i remember in uh final fantasy 10 2 or x 2 i don't know people actually call it i don't do a shit uh they're like a weird costume system i remember that and you could uh take one of the costumes where you can we just heal yourself constantly when you move your oh yeah and i was just reading up like how can i just make this stronger faster and top answer was go to earlier stage get go to any enemy put a toothpick in your controller so the x button is pushed down go have lunch come back later that's one way to do it we actually did that and had like full scale on that part e-fap chat is rotted you're supposed to be retarded uh stop paying attention to e-fap chat signed a guy whose origin story is being birthed from e-fap chat ah it's uh i get it south pole is like stay away from e-fap chat they're retarded but also i mean i agree but me too oh yeah um allen moore says superhero movies have blighted cinema and also blighted culture to a degree they are perfectly good as children's entertainment if you try and make them for adult world then it becomes kind of grotesque yeah i i don't know what other shit opinions allen moore has but uh there's one of them yeah i was gonna say there's so many questions i'd have for that one it's an interesting perspective but okay you're a blight on cinema f***ing hating the mcu is uh definitely a on vogue just like say anything bad about it you'll probably get some likes it roared cinema you see and you know you can trace it back to joss weedon's avengers joss weedon's owner destroyed the mcu and thus cinema just saying you should be killed in a video game oh oh i did it faster this time i'm getting so good at this i'm gonna be really good at this particular level of sonic heroes now for the rest of my life here comes the bit i f***ing hate i'm so excited uh koto doesn't have grinding and most enemies are not bullet spongy that's a no you i can't yeah i can't think either way i don't remember yeah maybe they are right maybe jay is right i don't know i will give j a conditional pass on the gameplay only if i could get the story of koto one with the gameplay mechanics of koto two i would be a happy man indeed well there you have it does seem the some agree with jay some people went as far as saying the story was s*** too apparently in chat jay was interested to see that that's very conferred what are you doing that where my sonic you suck and i'm more so referring to the whole game at that point not just him but he kind of sucks too just sonic the franchise just sonic you suck yeah i remember liking colors a lot more than heroes so i'm not going to be too mean and generations was kind of neat don't talk about color again yeah sonic colors it was uh the lgbt sonic game sonic of colors let's still take colors this just says why i don't know if they're trying to do a mario impression wow um what's on the last stand left for dead to you update i'm how we played it yeah yeah it's not out yet right oh you suck f***ing fell off after killing the thing it's like he auto tracks onto the f***ing cliff side he's just like i want to die like sonic please sending a bad message to the children who play this game pretty sure they update us out though is it for for a bit yeah well um i'm sure we can check it out at some point i'm sure we will i mean we return to that game to some jesus i'm getting tired words are just not in my time buddy it's all right we will go back to the game eventually anyways like we tend to do there we go that wasn't that hard yes we'll be we'll be cool with with checking it out at some point okay sonic you do you buddy um j make your kotel video so we can debunk you oh my god it's like the peer pressure to be wrong so please do it do it do we need it i need you to be wrong um what movies slash video games do you guys think are overrated oh my i'm pretty sure we've answered this question before uh skyrim the last of us um fire truck infinite fire truck infinite yeah wrap up uh resident evil seven do you think that's overrated yes sorry i was angry that i died um most nolan stuff even though one of my favorite possible time is going um i'm gonna probably regret this but do it which is three you think it's overrated i think it is a bit overrated it is talked up like the second coming of christ in terms of video games and i i think it gets away with a lot because of that position i'm mostly referring to gameplay aspects like the combat yeah the combat's fine i lean a bit worse than fine i think i think how mediocre it is and how little it matches up with the fantasy the games presenting in terms of like how a witcher operates that damages my immersion quite heavily i can say least well because so the witcher is supposed to be somebody like knows a law and is very knowledgeable and uh has to prepare a lot for the encounters they go into with monsters right uh but the problem i have with the game is first off most of this preparation isn't really necessary so like i don't really need to know specific things about a monster before i go into fight it but it's weak too or anything that's mostly auxiliary unless i'm up to death march at which point it's kind of mandatory unless i want everything to help sponge forever and even then the like kind of thing i do in terms of preparation is fairly like it doesn't change between specific kinds of monster because i'm applying the oil that applies to that monster for example so what i'm actually doing hasn't changed at all so it kind of takes me out of it when i'm just running into every fight with thunderbolt swallow and light attacks rather than having to you know go through the busy work and make sure i'm prepared for what i'm getting into i don't know if i necessarily want busy work but i see what you're getting like so do you prefer the second witcher yeah a little bit hmm yeah they certainly feel like different games playing witcher two is really good but it's definitely not nearly as approachable to the normal person like witcher two is hard oh yeah like it is a it is a game that while it benefits immensely from you taking your time with it it is not a game that owes itself to hurrying through and expecting a casual experience of oh i'll just go through this in that sense the witcher three is much more uh i i don't want to i don't want to say dumbed down but yeah i don't think that's quite right yeah it's it's more it's more accessible yeah uh the witcher two feels extremely rewarding when you beat it because it's very tough um you have things like in the witcher two combat you can't pause you can't just like you can't just pause the game and do stuff for your character you don't have health regen for the most part unless you know how to get it and even then it's not very powerful yeah um like when you get a hit and when you get hit in combat in the witcher two it's a big deal because chances are you're not getting that health back um it's a lot more yeah unforgiving in that aspect and i appreciate that kind of thing in games a lot more generally i don't value accessibility in the sense of systems being really approachable like that i think i had more fun playing the witcher three though i think for all of the simplification they made i think it just made the experience more fun for for me um but i also adore the witcher two i do want to clarify just quickly here like i'm not saying the game is bad far from it i think the game's still really good i just think it gets away with stuff because because it's rated so highly and it has so much prestige like the story and the atmosphere yeah i think the story the atmosphere the characters and dialogue the it has a very very like when the witcher three is one of the best games you could point to for can i believe this world is real yeah absolutely and it really like you when you play witcher three you get sort of surrounded by all of it at once um it all just combines so excellently like even my immersion woes are offset by just how great the world is like just riding through it on roge yeah it's insane um the amount of screenshots i have for witcher three is nice oh it's beautiful but i do think it has its flisms here and there but could bear was being taught more there's a couple other things that are much more specific to me that that i wouldn't even really call our issues just things i pick up on that maybe could have been worth looking at further well there we have it yeah there's a lot of stuff that we consider overrated i'm thinking we've talked about before but that's a good selection um it just comes up naturally yeah similar with like what's your favorite things what's your most hated things it's like hopefully we should just stop someone a chat mentioned it but i'm like full test was such a great character yeah i really really liked full test as a character um uh he wasn't around for long spoiler but like what he was he's a really i mean like what a chad what an interesting character who is he seemed like such a real person that's exactly what i was gonna say he felt so tangible in that way oh yeah he's like this guy yeah this is a human being yeah i totally believe that this is like an actual person and i totally respect him flaws and all but he's just like a he's just a cool ass dude i'm trying to think of another game real quick but i guess um carry uh carry on i suppose maybe it maybe if one comes to mind i'll i'll mention it but we all agree modern wow sucks i don't wow yeah i've heard that world of warcraft is been getting like shit i think as plays it ask him he'll though yeah i've heard that some of the expansions have been super disappointing and blizzard hasn't been doing a good job with it i don't know i i could only play it for like two three months and i just stopped it just wasn't engaging to me you're interesting um didn't grab me off that train long long ago yeah you walk a dangerous line jay be careful in your ratings oh my god that sounds like a threat resident evil four is one of the best games ever but i can understand when the controls throw people off there's no problem with not liking the gameplay yeah i agree yeah i can't control people i know that yeah but just fucking grow up and play the amazing game like fuck man as long as you understand it's it's limits the game is built around it like it's it's purposeful from the first second that you play the game like the controls never change and i think it's a credit to the game that it makes you choose moving or shooting which is very like you have to create windows for yourself and you have to decide do i retreat or do i you know shoot the bad guys or do it it really makes you value things like positioning because you can't move and shoot you have to choose one or the other but yeah it just i i think it's one of those some people say it hasn't aged well i don't agree i think just people are just one of the best aged things like it's the gaming it's fucking amazingly aged yeah i it's shockingly how good it's aged if i was gonna change anything from it like i just just graphical updates like a lot of the graphics in it have to age poorly as we've talked about it might have the best inventory system in terms of just making it engaging and balancing the whole game through it in many ways yeah it's fucking amazing it's incredible it's it's very very good um for some reason they didn't clone it they made it different in the other games yeah why we've talked before about how resident evil five is basically a downgrade from four and almost every way except graphical so how do series do that like strike gold with a system and then just drop it like i'm talking about dark souls as well here with the estus flask in one yeah i don't know like okay we have essentially the perfect healing system and now we're gonna drop it also i want to bring it like um i just did so well i got an extra life from collecting coins so it's just three parts to this level that are three instakill parts if i can't get past them like i i have like a 50 completion ratio on each one of them so really i'm just rolling a big dice and i have to land on a certain number do you understand how frustrating that is to me i could have completed this first try if all of those things had lined up but i'm on try number seven thousand at this point i'll see how bad okay oh it didn't work but i survived oh feels weird man what's the fucking way to kill these things without risking anything that's all i want to do come back to me okay yeah resident evil four is really fucking good mean reaction both replay it and then have a stream about it yeah i would gladly play resident evil four again i've played i've played and beaten that game and i don't even know how many times um what's funny is i could probably play some parts of that with my fucking eyes closed in the desert part of it um when the crazy gta five take happened and it's funny that i'll always connect those two that way now the desert yeah like it the you know like when you fight the army dudes um there's like a you go like an underground desert is the wrong word i'm just it's just my brain's struggling to oh like the tomb yeah i think that's gotta come yeah yeah um i got what you mean yeah i was in there when someone in chat said that gta five flopped and we had this whole i was shooting the heads off things i still remember and i was just going through all of his arguments like you're insane i don't know what else to say also i've done all three of the insta kill things successfully this time and i've not died once i'm getting good at sonic heroes this is embarrassing it was supposed to be goofy what happened i am though i will admit i'm a little scared right now because i've only got the easy path left and i know that i'm gonna fuck it up just because of the fact that's i've done all the hard bits um do do do hot take half life one and two are bad oh i don't have to disagree with you there half life one super impressed me one of the earlier games that i played and i couldn't fight it over how much fun i was having uh half life two is i don't know that i i want to appeal to this but half life two is kind of in a selection of games like doom and um quake a couple of others where they were they were games that were hyper influential dark souls are probably in there too everybody wanted to be like half life when it came out and had loads of really shitty clones um but yeah i think half life one or two are really really good anyone else you got opinions on it um i mean half life two i understand why it was super influential um i played it you know years back and for the first time and it was fine you know i was like i was like can i it's fine i'm gonna jump up and down for a good five minutes i think i've reached the end right howdy rags hey thank you guys for the hours of content is one of the uh one of the things that get me through work it's like i have friends smiley face well it's interesting they brought that up just after talking about the whole parasocial thing it's importantly said like right because we do like to entertain and we do like to have a back and forth but we wouldn't want it said that we consider everyone in chat friends it's like oh hang on say things wrong but i mean i don't mean to bring that up in in in front of you saying you have a lot of fun listen to us and get through work and stuff that's that's always one of the greatest things to hear we're uh we're happy about it yeah look how happy chat are that i managed to beat this level it's like the nightmare is over not doing that mess i fucking love by the way that the the time i beat it is what i didn't die once on the whole fucking level to was like my nine hour try of course for the first time yeah there you go child play blood born on super chat catch up watch me fail against all the bosses um maybe contrarian was the wrong word to use but i'm sure i wouldn't have to look very far very hard to find rags speaking favorably about kotor well you haven't played it right yeah maybe at the time i remember more than i do at the moment i it's like i played it years and years and like years and years and years ago like on the xbox so i remember liking it but i can't i remember so few details about it i want to stress though right so what happened was i don't like code like person a said i don't like kotor i got put off it gameplay wise and the gameplay reference specifically was a bunch of bullet sponge enemies that he had to defeat to get past them someone else comes in and says no and then you decide to say hey bullet sponge enemies are actually really fucking annoying like i don't see how that makes you contrarian this is yeah i we were kind of discussing a binary proposition here and i've got to take one side because i was very hesitant it was like well if what jay is saying is true then yeah that sounds bad i wouldn't want to make it sound like it's a simple thing like bullet sponge enemies there's a lot of requirements to come in that and a lot of things could be labeled a bullet sponge enemy without them actually being it when you i got a d by the way thanks game oh you didn't fail true d is a pass um so like someone could be like oh this this enemy sucks bullet sponge and then you'd be like oh you haven't figured out what you're supposed to do x y is a those more so in concept rather than in reference to koto it's like if it if it is what it sounds as though jay is describing it to be then yeah and these are the criticisms of those things that that's all that was rags isn't hating koto because it's popular to be well that wouldn't make sense contrarian is just wants to disagree right yeah just disagree for its own sake it's just wanting to go against the grain just because it's going against the grain which i don't think makes sense if you've got two people to choose from how do you contrarian your way through that feel like bullet sponginess is very deeply tied to how technical of a fight the enemy is yeah if it's just if it's if it's like i'm what's a good example of a um when we play destiny 2 it felt really bullet spongy and it wasn't fun because the gameplay in that isn't fun um it's just like shooting the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again um but if it's a fight that comes in multiple stages and phases and there's different mechanics that are incorporated into it and the fight takes a long time but it's interesting i don't i doubt people would call that you know like bullet spongy yeah like if it bullet spongy normally implies a kind of monotony of just doing the same thing over and over and over and over again ad nauseum to kill a boss when you've clearly mastered the mechanic and it's just for time sake making you do it over and over and over again yeah i guess there'd be requirements and then context specific sort of like oh but you didn't know that you were supposed to do x y z and that's what made it that view and it would have been this like there's there's lots of ways it could uh undo but i don't think i don't really think anybody nobody says oh i love bullet sponge enemies i don't think that's a thing right it's usually a the whole point of that criticism is this yeah it's almost always it it has it is negative connotation to say yeah it's funny you're pointing out the things are taking longer to kill than is interesting why is this the end of this fucking hold mode and sonic heroes get your shotgun oh god which is and and that's why i don't like um bullet spongy enemies are probably they might be my biggest turnoff from playing a lot of games in higher difficulties because of how just insanely unfun it is um generally a good example would be like like uh let's take the halo games right halo games aren't meant to be played on legendary it's like it's like a purposefully unfair challenge that's there for you to overcome but the game is not designed around legendary difficulty in terms of its balance right um and enemies can take so many bullets to kill that it's just like i would much i would i would much rather play a game where you're a glass cannon than where you just where you're basically generally safe and you just have to pour shit into enemies to kill them with relative safety it just isn't is i find that a lot more interesting a lot more engaging mm-hmm oh uh the division the original division um it fucking hell enemies in that game could be shockingly bullet spongy um which didn't gel with the presentation about how this bad guy that i'm shooting at he's some thug in a beanie but i have to shoot him 10 times in the face with a sniper rifle to kill him all numbers pop out of his head and his health bar barely goes down like that was a fucking slog which is a shame because the game was gorgeous and otherwise pretty well done but that was what that just ruins everything because that's the combat the combat is shooting at lots of bullet spongy enemies which is just not fun man give me a vermin tide or a killing floor over that shit any day make me fight a hundred one hit kill enemies at once fucking do that shit that's fun it's fucking levels trying to be cute with how i'm supposed to get between different areas and it would be nice if the game was was was equipped to deal with me failing to understand what their cute ideas are without having to sacrifice a life because it sends me all the way back to the beginning it's just like look at this point sonic heroes you're gonna benefit from a mario style fucking person in a cloud picking me up with a hook whenever i go off the edge because at this point it's just like i don't know what you're trying to do all the time so when i try and test anything and i'm falling down a chasm oh sonic i love you buddy so fucking cringy with your homing ability and i've just lost all my lives there's no point i guess i should just restart i love this game shut up uh cuphead has a trash art style damn wow that is a hot take yeah that is a hot take that is uh that's uh woof well i like cupheads art style a lot actually i do too i think it's fucking great cool sonic you did it again buddy i think that's the last of my life so it's not often we get it's not often we get to hear mollusk controller that's true it's all lies i wasn't even using a controller i'm using vr for sonic here monster hunter world is the worst monster hunter game no just no no way i've played a few of them and fuck me world is is very much welcome into the monster hunter series um hi guys i'm a new fan of your channel to show my appreciation i'd like to recommend a show on amazon slash hulu called the shield it's legendary and i feel you guys will love it also hi rags hello and uh welcome to the channel thanks for stopping by helping us out um i don't think i've heard of the shield i think southpaw has mentioned it before i've heard it he said it's really good um i'm assuming that's like a cop procedural show i don't know literally based on bailey anything but either way uh i maybe i'll check it out at some point maybe it'll be a thing that gets recommended a lot and then one day you guys find out i hate it and you get really upset definitely never happen no no i was just making that up what a crazy scenario uh madoka magica is an overrated garbage fire no no what is it it's an anime oh it could be garbage we can't trust you on anime but hell man i did just make that up that's not based on like eddie's you're tainted by the anime that takes me correct all right with you say so was hmm hmm fuck you look at me i just died that is some cancer cringe put together cancer cringe super aids crancer that's what they call that cringer oh good job once again like why is this considered fun by anybody team blast that's only gonna push me forward to the next set of enemies that's just that's not dealing with the problem that's just dealing with a symptom i can't sonic be a good boy why is he always a bad man oh no that's not what i told you to uh i still play resneval 4 finished at 20 plus times high rag hey yeah yeah man it it yes very replayable it is extremely mechanically tight and predictable in a good way where you could fucking learn that game and you can excel at doing good at that game and it feels good to do good at that game oh god these deaths man it's all built around how shit the the sonic's homing ability is but like they want you to use it for that first fight you can tell it's built that way because the next round is built for some knuckles and i just i think i might just use tails i think tails is probably the better one at this point you know that game i'm choosing tails over sonic how do you feel oh my alarms uh listen to elite senor fan watch the shield oh that's from southport there you go minecraft is trash unless heavily modded i do not agree i feel like i think vanilla minecraft is still extremely strong i guess we're still in hot takes because yeah yeah that is a very hot take vanilla minecraft is still an extremely strong mechanically bursting full of just just it's super it's insanely good vanilla minecraft is insanely good like for all the memes and stuff like minecraft is an insanely good video game and i'm glad that a lot of people grew up with it unironically it's the video game of freaking multi where everyone's like no it's minecraft like that doesn't still minecraft is a meme and yeah a lot of people did grow up with it it's kind of it's kind of weird because uh rachel j did and it's just like oh man i feel old yeah uh just talking about it makes me want to fucking play it and do it minecraft's fucking good like minecraft don't give me wrong minecraft is a masterpiece like unironically i'm the world is better because of minecraft wow he must like notch he hasn't had he hasn't been in charge of minecraft in a long time well yeah he made it yeah um but i i seems like a he seems like a based dude i also see nazi okay um i think he said to mark brown like stop talking about politics and i'll delete my twitter account and then mark said he would and so he did all right really really weird thing that happened but like yeah that's what happened oh my god that one was golden i think it was on the um i think notch was in the chat when bro team played um stranger not stranger things uh what's that what's the game where you play is the magic time traveling lesbian and the story one strange oh life is strange life is strange yeah when he was playing that game making fun of it notch was like in the chat you have to appreciate by the way i need to check up with bro team pill because he's insanely funny you have to realize what you said was 100 accurate but without knowing about it it actually sounds fucking stupid as hell like time traveling lesbian is the concept like um yeah wasn't it when ifab uh when we had a er on someone actually super chat that he's wrong about life is strange and they're gonna make a video on how wrong he was oh yeah get ready efab slash er um so i think see so there's a big flump over there i don't know if it wants me to go to order um this thing only takes me to a thing that sends me back over here oh camera please just hang on hang on so um hey sonic fans what does the game want me to do like i said if i try to experiment i'll fucking kill myself and then i have to do it all over again oh i must have done something that made this happen i guess i'm so proud of myself oh god this shieldman's if i had oh i have team blast back i only i thought i just used okay whatever fine um devil man crybaby netflix version is overrated does a netflix dmc not not dmc uh devil man cry i think it's on netflix i don't think that's a netflix version because devil man crybaby is a loose remake of devil man i think fucking with which if if ever you guys want a good laugh look i'm devil man stub it's fucking hilarious oh wait so i thought people were saying devil man to make fun of devil may cry i didn't realize that wasn't it's an actual thing devil man crybaby is it something oh okay because i because your your guy likes dmc right so i thought people were trying to come at you with that oh yeah well they can they can try this is the best game series the best bar none uh oh yeah because who what is your current favorite game now so one point it was god will fall isn't it well i haven't played it in a long time yeah i i don't know okay i can't let you tell me right here we'll leave you alone no see i'm known for you know coming after people yeah i want to play all of the god of war thingy soon i got my a field station it has them back for my friend though so i can play all the god of wars again sweet i'm gonna play them all on stream and gonna get so much fun and you're gonna be like they're all objectively bad don't happen i don't think that's gonna happen ever talk about them again sorry never mind it was just making a stupid joke wow all right like i understand that you don't take mel seriously ever but he does deserve some consideration so just constantly making jokes for his perspective i'm sorry about this mel normally he is very respectful never to me why are you doing this i'm gonna tell everybody you did this uh for my birthday wish watch ronald the barbarian we got so many consistent requests every e-fap now i don't know what to do about it we shouldn't have watched hot girl henry rags we've opened a floodgate damn think of all those super chat enjoy listening to you guys and girl uh i'm glad oh thanks hot take movie bob's pancreas functions normally okay that's perfectly normal size pancreas for a family of four i i like the that means they've just taken to the point i would hot take just be the lie that's the definition um what do you guys think of pokemon games i like the old ones haven't played the new ones have you played any of them so um the old ones i haven't played any of the new ones i can't even tell you which is the last one i played i can i can take the hot take position if you guys want i think that i was actually debating how i was gonna word mine so pokemon's kind of trash i'm sorry the the overall grind the grind is the game the interesting part of being like i'm water and they're electric i should use water move it's like that's the best you get from pokemon really the stories are incredibly simplistic yeah i i i can see how they and yeah to be fair i love them when i was a kid uh yeah i love them when i was a kid too um i i tried to get back into them like later when i was more i guess mentally developed but i just couldn't they couldn't hold my attention they were just boring grinds uh i like i i guess people really really love them but i think they're super simplistic i think the combat is boring and dull i think the strategy is almost non-existent um the grind is an insane part of the game and it's super unfun and i just don't think they're good and i think they're insanely boring to play so yeah there we go that's not a hot take i already saw it it's not a hot take like i've seen people who have pokemon channels and they uh like madrai bread and people like that who come up with these challenges and stuff to can you beat the game using only this or can you beat the game like never healing or can you beat the game using only this attack you know just crazy stuff like that and it's interesting to listen to them like formulate strategies about how they're going to beat the game with these parameters knowing these mathematical equations about how the game functions i find that very interesting but that's not because of the game that we're playing is pokemon right pokemon it's just the vehicle for them to do that stuff um so uh yeah uh not a not a big fan uh pokemon i don't hate it like i don't think it like i don't have any animosity towards pokemon i still think the games are good oh it's the blast changes based on who i'm using that's interesting i don't remember getting a guide on that but i probably did and i don't want to use team blast on these guys because then i can't use it on the next round which was horse hooey sorry for the harsh language and i got thrown off the fucking map again who only ever kills me in this game through the stun locking or throwing me off the map which by the way yeah really satisfying as a player to know that every time i get killed it fuck all to be done in terms of trying to prevent it it's just sort of ended up that way yeah it's like what i was saying earlier if you're making a video game and you're going to have stuff like that in your game tread fucking carefully it's everywhere and they set me all the way back like i'm gonna beat this game it is my doxels okay it's uh yeah like there are some enemies in guild wars two who are they're heavily reliant on on ceasing players and it crowd controlling uh players and it is they they're extremely frustrating to play against and every one of the game knows it and so when those bosses come up or when those bounties are taken a lot of times people are like uh we gotta do this one boss you know uh but like really like players will notice it no one likes no one likes getting hit by one attack that stuns lock stun locks you so you could get hit by another attack and knocked off of a ledge and instantly die like no one likes that no just just don't put it in your game you don't have to you're the dev you get to make the decisions you don't have to have that stuff in your game yeah how did the pokemon take over in chat are they okay with us oh it seems to be going over fairly well i think the sonic takes them more hot than the pokemon ones we're just surprising to be honest i assumed we'd have lots of people yeah uh i i i guess p i don't know you would think that pokemon's more beloved but oh well all right shows up to generate audience i guess sonic fans god damn freaks uh only fun part is the main part okay i don't know what that's in reference to pull out four is objectively the second best fallout game oh shit i accidentally chose quit well i don't actually lose that much progress that's not so bad to be ways um yeah uh i've not played through them so i can't really comment but i know that pull out one and two uh highly respected absolutely they're beloved um i never played them uh before my time i guess never went back and played them um my first fallout game like i would say a lot of people maybe even most people was fallout three it's my first fallout game i adored it i loved it it was maybe the first game that or one of the first games uh it's like along with minecraft where i just got lost in and i i just fell into that game and got totally absorbed by everything um it fallout three is a special place in my heart i bet there's some undoubtedly there's issues with it it's a Bethesda game but um i remember it extremely fondly yeah i am i fully complete four three is definitely a massive one so i did softlock myself in it once and i got very upset about it um which put me off playing it for ages but then i went back to it eventually and i was like you know what just better not do that next time i'll i'll deliberately avoid it was in metaton uh megaton sorry mech megaton yeah um i imagine i wasn't the only person who ever did it but i didn't realize the rules quite clearly yet and i pissed off everybody because i uh tried hitting the cow and the whole place was like fuck you and then i ran away and walked through a door which auto saved and only had one save which meant i was trapped in there forever um or i think they come in right and i couldn't take them because i was too low and i was just like getting killed over and over again who's sad don't recommend that experience but uh fallout three has been discussed again and again about whether or not it's actually good by many youtubers uh yeah i could bet it's i i i'll if someone told me it's super flawed i take them at their word uh i think it's h bomb guy versus many a true near the two people who've uh making big videos on it i mean like i i i i if someone said it was bad like i don't know if i'd buy that would you buy that bro dollar rags what about the ending um isn't that like moment we're talking about like a main game there's a couple yeah because because you restore the like the water purifier as so the how much of the inquest the um rem who are the who are the baddies not the inquest not the remnant is it remnants the the the the faction that the president's from someone helped me out here um uh what were they called why do i keep on calling them inquest the enclave enclave thank you lightning and sea um the enclave yeah they're they're they're the baddies in that game uh they wanted to put something in the water that would kill like all the ghouls and mutants and stuff uh and they'd fuck with the water and stuff and you had to stop them um but you you should choose not to and that helps like it helps good stuff so yeah um someone says fallout 3 new vegas new vegas absolutely new vegas is uh it's it's good jit this person said that um fallout 4 is the second to best objectively and i feel like there's probably gonna be a tough battle for that game to fight yeah i don't know about that um especially if one and two are included in that 76 or yeah so fallout 4 is without like vanilla fallout 4 is fine but disappointing undoubtedly with mods you could really yeah i mean that game is pretty darn good once you could mod the shit out of it uh i had a lot of fun playing that game with mods right it hurts myself to hear how little you know about fallout well it depends like i know a lot about fallout new vegas and fallout 4 and i know a fair amount about fallout 76 but i'm not like a fallout expert or anything i know a decent amount i just never played one or two and i don't remember three that much three at the same time you fucking kidding me right now is this real life why would you do this to me again also yeah i'm i'm not too into uh fallout lore if you will neat games um i'm just not the man to ask about the boys season two spoiler alert i can't believe you guys didn't notice the massive problem with mave basically teleporting at first that and becker escaping is what ruined the episode for me but we did hot take fallout 76 is better than fallout 4 no no fallout 76 was a fucking dumpster fire it was one of the worst games i'd ever played it was it was like imagine a game that like every single part of it is basically terrible right no it's even worse all right the thing that's even worse than all of it than a game hear hear me out hear me out what makes fallout 76 so insanely bad right to play it is because it's like 95 percent horseshit and every once in a while you see the five percent like there are some times where you're in a neat location and the lighting is just right in the atmospheric particles looking really nifty and the light is working nice and you're in this cool location and it looks nifty and all the details line up and you stop for just a second and you go mad you know if they gave a shit this could have been like a really cool game and then an enemy that's 30 levels above you spawns five feet from you and then you die and then you remember that you're playing fallout 76 like there's there's just a little bit a tiny little sliver of good and fallout 76 that shows that it could have had potential to be really nifty maybe downright excellent but then you just remember what you're playing and it's it it's shit it's terrible fallout four is disappointing fallout 76 is trash and to clarify i think i asked you this before but it's not we're not dealing with no end sky right it hasn't improved significantly or anything i hear it's better but of course it's better like you can't make it you i because it was non-functional essentially at first kind of like borderline the i i've said before that fallout 76 was almost fun to play because of how many bugs you see like every you like every five minutes you'd run into some crazy weird bug and it would be entertaining to see how broken it is just how can i walk down this road how many weird bugs and glitches can entertain me as i just walk around like there was a kind of it was mesmerizingly bad for a while oh dude that's good for team blast that's satisfying oh i'm getting through this game we're gonna get there guys have faith we're almost done with the halloween section someone says i'd say the mods for fallout four are good not fallout four no fallout four has good stuff in it it's just that it doesn't all mesh into a good in a good way right um like like if you take a game like seven days to die individually pretty much all the components are not great at all some of them are downright bad some of them are fine but when you mix everything together the base building the enemies the looting the leveling up the mechanics the crafting when you mix it all together it comes together in a very interesting way and it plays unlike anything else and it's fun to play so yeah a game is definitely more than you know it's definitely more than the sum of its parts if you've forgotten a lot about fallout three like guys fallout three i played that when it came out and that was a while ago yeah let me let me fallout three came out in 2008 that shit was fuck it's 12 years ago like yeah a game that i played essentially maybe at the latest i played it in 2010 at the latest and even then that's pushing it so in it so i'm going from memory from a 10 year old game so yeah i really just opened the game with dying it had a bitch in cover yeah all right um yeah that's the mave thing we didn't pick it up on our first watch too but we definitely caught it in our stream um and i guess i assumed when i first saw it that uh mave had just followed the boys or something i got i got nothing but another thing i hadn't thought about was just yeah if homelander had dealt with um the soldiers really fast then he could have just come out there and killed all of them i wonder if he lasered mave without finding out about her leverage you know fuck everything up fucking mave um what can i say uh just so useless okay the gua 98 rifles are overrated and inferior to the m1 903 rifles um so the gavera i i guess it depends which model of the gavera we're talking about um but the m 1903 was probably the best bolt action rifle of the second world war oh wait i was right the first world war um i mean there were different variants of the gavera they had the m 95s um the m 98s and probably some other ones but those were the two main ones but yeah i'd say that the m 1903 was the best the springfield i believe the m 1903 springfield was probably the best bolt action rifle of the first world war there was plenty of good ones though but i'd say that was probably the best one i didn't i don't think that's a controversial thing to say though i wouldn't know i guess you would you have you have gun front you've told i mean the smle is yeah um i mean the sm smle was really good um for me though like because my my father has an smle and i don't know if it's just something with my eyes but i can't quite use the irons the typical irons of an smle it just doesn't work with my eyes with the way that it focus maybe i just gotta spend more time with it but i'm pretty good shot but just something about the sights don't quite gel with me um but but yeah but i'm i'm gonna go with uh yeah uh but yeah it could be the smle or the m 1903 probably now that i think about it autist take r5 2 is the most overrated game ever it's a needlessly eclectic physics engine snow boat showboat for normies with messiah complexes that's a take i suppose um i always thought the physics shit in half-life 2 was really fascinating when i first played it i was impressed i'm pretty sure that was part of what made it very influential um i wouldn't be able to tell you more specifics about what makes half-life 2 really good though because it's just been so long since i played it but uh i think it's probably a hot day to say a shit yeah the ar-15 platform is objectively superior to the ak platform i would probably agree yeah i i think i would agree i would agree with that yeah in terms of its mechanics in terms of its mechanics it's yeah i'm gonna say it it's reliability its modularity its weight uh the round assuming we're comparing ak 40 so well even if we're even if we're comparing ak 74 to ar-15 which is a much closer comparison to the point where they're almost interchangeable in some aspects um i i would say that yeah the ar-15 is objectively better designed than the ak platform yeah i would i love them both i've got like four of one and two of the other but three of the other in fact i got an ar-15 right so like but um sonic's teetering on the edge of a platform i press a to jump and instead he just chooses to walk off the edge like hey yeah just jump sonic jump your fucking ass out of there it'll be good for you i swear he just doesn't trust me i don't think i think it's because i'm human oh well sonic's got issues to deal with hopefully they get to this point in the story and he's no longer bigoted because he does kiss a human in sonico 6 we must get over it okay um oh everything after pokemon gen 4 was garbage that's the kind of thing i was expecting in the pokemon talk was that uh everything past like early tisms is is bad tisms and they usually reference the um the really bad pokemon designs and names my personal favorite is garbador he's a garbage thing i like gada it's just a just a thing with a gada what's the one that's just keys isn't they just a one that's just a keys and there's an ice cream at a chandelier oh no pokemon got real funny oh i oh i had control over that thing i didn't even realize that's what i'm thinking of i'm thinking of the the model of 1917 infield is what i'm thinking of i think was confusing it with that yeah but i was i was i went into this world war one rifle thing because i needed pictures to for me to associate it with but yeah the the infield 1917 is probably the best one of the first world war um what's interesting though is the 1903 spring field that i was thinking of earlier was it was it was like a virtual copy of the mauser car 98 and i think so mauser sued the united states because the m 1903 had a number of patent infringements in it which compelled the united states to pay a royalty to mauser for each rifle that was manufactured even after the united states had declared war because business is business i guess so that's interesting i did not know that that's kind of interesting yeah the cleft key was apparently the key one chandelier was the the chandelier one good to learn about bookman pokemon oh i just didn't hit that quite well rags do you have a grand no um i only own two rifles from the second world war or older one of them is a 1927 mosin negant 91 30 um in the second is a 19 i forget the year on it um it's a it's a 1895 negant revolver those are the two i have from that time period and they're both cheap pieces of shit but they're kind of fun to shoot but they're well cheap piece of shit which is fine why can't i artist of all takes movie bob is a good person no i can't finish that sentence it's too much it's too impossible yeah these limits uh all these disagreements but i thought ifa was a circle jig echo chamber i mean yeah to a degree all fan bases are but i'd say that ifa's got a pretty good precedent of being like get them perspectives out there and have a discussion it's okay no one's gonna kill you only a little bit um i'd like to think that we don't pander as much as uh other creators try to with their audiences yeah fuck chat yeah fuck you chat beloved yeah yep um halo was a series is poorly written and overrated oh my god i disagree with that i just i i i'm only gonna talk about the bungee side but halo one two and three i think they're written quite well in terms of how the story works um i mean maybe i'm wrong but i i remember it being fairly solid yeah i'm not a halaman i'm just like yeah halo's neat i don't know and the novels are really good i think uh at least the first three uh first uh the fall of reach the flood and first strike really excellent sci-fi novels that i'd definitely recommend to people don't know if winning hopefully i am come on sonic you can do it buddy that was a win uh shadow the closet says bad gameplay because it's inconsistent how is shadow the closet inconsistent i would say it's pretty consistent in how the grip mechanics work i would assume that's what they're gunning for rather than maybe they're talking about when you go to stab i don't know yeah i adore that game koi i bet i would be curious what uh you're referring to i don't see one of those who works what are my controls here oh i can go up and down okay this is great yes yes sonic's so happy oh i got a one up as well everything's coming up millhouse um i haven't seen tpm in years but i have listened to duela fates recently and i've decided that tpm is objectively good yeah no boy how to do it oh my god i'm okay we'll get more hoops return of the jedi has flaws but it also has some really great moments can you really call it bad overall yeah it might be um i'd need to see it again it's pretty significant yeah i haven't watched it in a while i would not want to talk about return of the jedi without mentioning how fucking great the luke vader empire emperor stuff is though and i usually do mention that every time because not be understated let you handle this knuckles thinks he's so awesome i mean he is but you know he's the coolest shadow shadow is the coolest i would date shadow not really he's too edgy for me oh i feel like yeah if i dated shadow then i would die and he'd have to go on a revenge question like anyone who's with he's yeah anyone he's with is doomed basically here's a hot take mealy is a terribly made smash game even the original n64 is more competently made oh god you're so wrong it's hideous good luck that's a tough way which is the bad one fucking uh the gamecube one he's saying what melee yeah fuck that good luck telling that saying that n64 one is better and it's oh god why would you even like isn't isn't melee the one that like all the professionals play every one in the smash fad of fucking adores mealy from what i know as far as i know yeah like when people when there are smash roast tournaments i thought melee was like the one that they play i remember when brawl came out wasn't it like tripping over yourself is it was a possible to never fucking hate it yeah they added a trip mechanic where character would randomly fucking trip hey if you're a dev and you want to have characters randomly fucking trip don't maybe don't in fact shoot shoot anyone who'd suggest that shoot anyone because hey guys what if your character just randomly fucking tripped great i'm get out garbage take the uh shadows date did die doesn't surprise me of course it's super edgy my love i i saw i can beat this speed challenge oh my god oh i just blew the whole ship sweet wow this level is nuts i'm on top of the world so cool uh footers are the best type of woman these are just more hot about that oh i can't get to the thing boo why is it that you're counting on knuckles when all three of you do this sonic that doesn't make any sense sonic knuckles were counting on you so he's talking to the player unacceptable plot hole do you think we'll get a spiritual success into new vegas with microsoft buying Bethesda and owning zenomax uh do is obsidian a part of that so i think the chances are higher with microsoft in charge uh so i mean i ideally like microsoft gets Bethesda's shit together but i don't know um i don't know so i guess we'll see i we can only hope yeah i dare not hazard a guess when it comes to uh the future of those you know that series but ifap is an echo chamber watch this hey rags john mc2 is a good movie no it's not hey moeller uh the last airbender is an eight out of ten no stop wait those are different opinions what they just i thought you were gonna ask the same question to all of us no so that doesn't make the joke is he's gonna say controversial things to us that are commonly accepted and we're gonna deny them okay and then that was a very the end of this paragraph finished off with uh they just echoed it right back to me see oh he knew that we wouldn't he knew it oh boy that was a oh that was a ride yeah roller coaster if you oh i didn't realize that's what was happening i thought it was a poll oh i died you dingus death by a thousand insta kills um where am i there's a woman kyle written house did nothing wrong um i mean i've seen quite a bit of different people breaking it down stuff does seem like he did uh a lot of things the way you probably want to if you had strong gun control but like control of a weapon i mean what is the word for that gun discipline that's it yeah yeah i would have done the same if i was on his shoes because i'd heard from someone that he was spraying and praying and people were dying 20 feet away from him and i was like jesus christ that sounds horrifying then i looked at it and i was like uh he he was he was shockingly reserved yeah he did a pretty pretty like i i it's pretty hard to stay calm under a way like that to shoot as little as he did because you could easily just go boom boom boom boom boom boom boom um yeah that was a that was a whole saga with with that stuff uh joel is responsible for john it's possible for everything objectively halloween is the best holiday i know right undertale is a terrible game devil man cry baby is a terrible show iron man three is better than two well okay you have a perspective that is that is good that you have a perspective how is this a hot take black panther is generic trash it's like high five hot take you should drive if you're a grown up oh my god shut up you don't jet force jemini was best n64 shooter i remember that i remember jet force jemini is that a hot take on i guess the competition is what golden i i loved it as a kid most people say that golden i like aged really badly i didn't play it when i was younger so i don't remember if i played it uh it's just like the controls roll flimpy i think yeah i guess oh hot take boulder's gate isn't boulder's gate it's divinity original sin three and that sucks okay um okay because i remember divinity original sin two being insanely good um so it's not that much of a problem even if it's true yeah if i don't know much about balder's gate i don't know anything about balder's gate in fact but i'm really excited to play it just because it's lyrian who's making it yeah and the last two things they've made have been stellar so please game let me finish this level hot take don't kick jay that is way too much for heart take for me to deal with you got the fuck out of here hot take too many hot takes not enough roasting patrick willams oh we got there in the end yeah we got there in the end any plans to review rogue one video essays while the best of disney star wars i think it gets far more praise than it deserves by possible and yeah could happen at some point as we often comment ranks and i need to brush up on our rogue one probably yeah i've only seen it the once who knows perhaps it's the worst of all of them oh my god this is such an end they really went all out on this last level the sonic heroes all kinds of crazy shits happening i don't know if i'm winning yet though oh i think i am just gotta avoid all the things efab movies into the spider verse i don't know that that would work we're mostly just going to be watching it i know a lot of a lot of people liked the moulin one and i saw comments saying like so wholesome to see efab laughing at like moosh you and stuff and it's like yeah i know it worked out it wasn't a guarantee um and you never know with a lot of these movies is um we could end up recording and then it's all poopy it's like oh no well so am i just doing the same thing over and over again right now am i insane um but into the spider verse probably won't be any fat movies we're probably just gonna watch it and be like what do you think and you'll say very gay and i'll be like okay this is actually cancer can i collect my hoops please fine game away i go crying emoji oh man i think that's when we can worry i made the chat cry i got a notification from amazon that says the boys are back and better than ever ironic much yeah definitely better than yeah it just it just has the boys is back sad face you're like oh dissonant all of you for making me watch that piece of shit moulin movie holy fuck that was bad yeah oh man you only got the highlights of us watching it imagine like for jay he decided to watch it alone by himself got it well when he was like oh it's it's not really something i laughed at it's like you it was so much to laugh at holy dash bulge is editing uh with with all of the the loading symbols on all the characters just take 10 years to respond to anything it was weird oh that was a pattern yeah i i i might say that melanne has the worst acting i've ever seen it's definitely up there like every look i said it during the the movie but it kind of i i sort of like reminded myself halfway through the movie about how bad every single line was like the whole it it it's it feels like aliens made it the way that every line is delivered it's bizarre hey blow up another ship egg man you're gonna get beaten bro oh i guess we did it sweet i didn't even have to grab a big hoop the gold though the dark world is objectively forgettable it seems that the shit tons of people agree that it's really forgettable it's kind of weird yeah hot take t-shirt and blazer look really good with cargo shorts socks and sandals gotta complete the look with a fedora too hey i guess i beautiful go is that for halloween oh my god it's team eggman's fortress we made it i think this might be the last level how exciting i like how the level i just did though is much easier than the fucking tizmy halloween level ah oh okay uh rags is halloween thief confirmed he said he likes trump get him diabetes halloween thief how does that make any sense the guy emperor protects uh it is a perfectly acceptable fashion for 15 year olds who need to dress up but don't want to look like they're wearing dad's suit holy rhino milk you masters are streaming on my uh day off for once bless the dawn rim the ascended be the long bilbo bagging that's all the reference of two right there kick rags please such anti dog sentiment i'm not i'm unkickable watched efap eight today is quentin still scummy we've not heard from him in a while i don't know what he's up to but uh i think he's still making videos and stuff nothing that we could cover we we obviously covered his rise of skywalker one last i think that was a fun one it's an interesting fellow that quentin i'm glad the bickering music is back oh yeah i did play some music while you guys were uh talking about your yeah i was getting mad facts yeah um about fashion yeah yeah yeah rags is objectively correct about t-shirts of blazers a button-up is needed if you're wearing a suit coat or blazer of any kind yeah i mean if it's the if it's the truth you know i wouldn't want to go against it lies rags how do you feel about the virgin killer sweater the virgin killer sweater yeah i don't know if that's a thing uh let me look uh um so the virgin killer sweater is uh it is a seductive sweater with an open keyhole back this sweater has a halter neck and is also known as the sweater that kills virgins its seductive design earned it the japanese phrase daute wo corrosive which means that it is so sultry it would literally drive a virgin man to death and this is the this is what it is uh conog you with that i suppose mm-hmm that this drives virgin men to death so like no i mean it just looks like especially when you're looking at it from the front it i don't know i guess from the back it it's revealing of a woman's back but a lot of other dresses do that that show more of the chest i don't know i i don't think this is very sexy at all honestly especially the neck like that thick turtley neck mm-hmm that is not sexy at all looks weird yeah rags disapproves i'm sorry yeah i i'm yeah there's a way sexier things a woman could wear uh old patty williams right now how could i make a fan out of you hmm how could i make apparently rat well you're not a virgin rags you don't know yeah multiple people i i guess yeah um oh it doesn't work on people without sex i see i i guess yeah i guess i i don't know is chat try and help us understand so i am getting very tired so i man i'm i'm with you it's uh just past four a.m lies sure 20 past three for you um jingle berry well i guess now do you want to tell people about what you've been up to lately what you're doing in future what your life plans are and why they should hate uh i mean i'm on efab that's enough for hate uh and i will be back that's that's for the hate part oh you need to hate the boy season two because you want to steal people's feelings yes exactly but i guess that's that's next week then yeah i remember that correctly no reason not to say that that's gonna be efab 105 i imagine yeah yeah i'm gonna spit hot takes all over this yeah just actually there's a bunch of efab stuff next couple of days well this whole month we got stuck this month it's that's splashing all over you innocent viewers yeah uh yeah i stream in the week still uh i i'm trying to get a schedule going but uh all this efab stuff that's kind of quote-unquote ruined it wow that's all right we still get to to play the gorms uh what else what else uh yeah might stream tomorrow there or we do streaming here or both who cares i don't think well yeah you might stream on your stream tomorrow yes yes yeah yeah uh and yeah when when i get the timing again i guess after all the efab stuff is done i'll do the dron week two but hopefully soon yeah i don't know that a lot of people seem to believe you're wrong on dron week two how do you feel about that yeah they're wrong but that's really our yeah dron week two is bad guys the hot takes keep on kit well it's just not hot in our circle but i mean remember there's only one good john wick movie and there's only two good star wars movies tl jane rome uh yeah i think that's about it i'll i'll i'll see you all later good night yeah my good morning and see you later bye bye bye bye bye bye baby baby uh how much time have you both got left in you uh i need to get something to eat sometime soon but other than that um what about you raggy wrong i'm pretty tired i'm pretty tired i'm gonna go for a while longer but uh i'm getting there hold on friday's uh friday's a long day so i'm hanging in there though but i'm i'm pretty tired all right uh okay cinema reberto dresses like that so it's bad oh he does yeah he does the t-shirt and blazer combo i think doesn't he does he remember so yeah i'm just assuring what he does like guys that kind of does go in favor to rags just saying just putting it out there we need to make sure we tally it up because apparently it was it was shad versus movie bob you know the good opponent to have since shad will have weaponry but diabetes does have magical powers you just consider these things what is what do you do sonic oh here we go um so which one is the negate vote oh is it because they wanted the option to not have to vote on either i see about the whether or not it was you can do that by not voting yeah let's see yeah it's genius you see weekend just looks like my textbooks looks like my textbooks what's that mean uh does j axie is tired yes i guess j was still on the stream at that point yeah we're tired of the shit moeller please i need you to go to the top of the coal click on the icon with two people click on j and then click kick also high rags i did it hello click kick were they hoping that you were following those instructions just blindly yeah i guess so as you're reading it out this will help you with your discord call i promise and uh it's a t-shirt with a blazer is a bloke loke or a tone loke i don't know what they're asking with that i have i have confused rags what is your take on socks and sandals i'm against it yeah you would probably cover or can make up your goddamn mind you'd make a law against it if you were president right no i wouldn't no i had a lot of hope for your ranks well here's the thing i want those kinds of people i we can more easily identify them this way all right fine okay oh i didn't press anything like my my dad's a super boomer he wears crocs with socks oh no yeah so it happens some people just made victims of he really he really likes his crocs he says they're super comfortable for his feet so i'm like oh yeah whatever can you do what can you do yeah you can't you're not gonna change his mind it's like trying to make your 90 year old great grandmother not racist anymore you're not gonna be able to do it so just don't even try just accept that's what it is allow her to live in her world i still oh my god i'm still alive you know sometimes it's funny with sonic you don't quite know whether you're supposed to be pressing buttons or just letting it happen like whatever's happening it's like a roller coaster but sometimes they're like also you have control and you're like oh shit okay oh did i just die no i'm alive okay oh my god this is so confusing do the thing sonic no no the other thing you could argue a book look is more of a compliment than a good look i blame jay the way also hi john yeah i don't know how you made it book look but you know it just it happens oh good i didn't fall off the edge knuckles did uh does chad centrism blazer is book look it'll subbleties asking the real questions i'd really like to see you play doki doki but knowing how you usually talk anime i'm scared you guys will hate it i have a personal attachment to it guys you gotta be okay with us not liking the stuff that you like okay it's gonna happen it's going can't stop it remember when everybody liked mandalorian remember that we had to we had to we had to just accept it it's all right this the stuff that theo doesn't like that he should all right and we get along so it's yeah i'm not i'm struggling to name something but well as you struggle i'm going to go top of my beverage i shall return very well yeah um who knows if we'll even play this doki doki literature club do you know what that is you know you do right yeah do you give it a thumbs up yep all right there you go guys that's theo stamp of approval however much that may count for it gets like seven points i'll take it yeah does uh a t-shirt is literally used as an undershirt when dressing formally to only where the t-shirt is not only lazy but it's hipster which is worse nobody likes hipsters oh i'm alive can this be the end game i don't know i feel like i've earned it sort of god what is happening it's self-destructed it's blown to pieces all right i'll take nostalgia critic is funnier than patrick could be true chat who's funnier patrick williams or nostalgia critic let's find out what are the opinions uh you can pull off casual with blazer but it should be sleek and complimentary like a polyvester v-neck not a freaking coarse woven striped hains see this is all just i'm just not a fashion man i just look and go yeah looks neat or that looks so stupid that one's for rags thanks guys for all the long content while i work also shout outs to pro castitara on her batwoman reviews as well yeah it seems like a lot of people have been making some good stuff with batwoman reviews everyone's looking forward to season two we're trying to get as in j longbone to start talking about it in a positive sense you know like come on you're excited for batwoman get excited tell the people how much you love them just hope they don't show on anything too hard i need to watch people fail at making a tv show but you also want to not not like whenever they bring up a classic villain or you know batman that's kind of a little dodgy god this is probably an efficient way of killing this dude um regarding doki doki literature club i have some demands of you dumbo's i will lay them out in time the longer you take the more they will be and i can't say that we're gonna but i mean what's your leverage what's a good point what is your leverage oh i do it with tails hey there you go oh wait do i not game hello oh there we go did it happy belated birthday long man also would you mind washing wishing my bro a new toxic broodling alex a happy birthday happy birthday alex hope you have a good one fun with your brother play some games here i am do some activities that sort of thing and uh thank you as well rags yo recommend me a good gaming headset for my big head and with a good mic as well as audio quality also d r do it rags in what yeah i i i don't know what that means i'm gonna assume it means hello and hello to you um so i use uh an ath ag1x little pricey but i really like the audio quality and the microphone that comes with it is pretty darn good for a a headset connected microphone so that is what my recommendation would be that's what i use um there could be other options out there that are good but that's one that i can vouch for i really like it that's what i'm using right now demand one don't live stream the game to avoid spoils uh this is if we play doki doki literature club we're not allowed to live stream it rags what do you think about that i think if people don't want spoilers don't watch some somebody's playthrough of it no i'm assuming he's saying that chat will spoil it for us oh i just i well i'm not i'm not gonna look at chat while i play yeah he'll be right every play in the game and i imagine people will be inclined to not spoil it because apparently that's a big appeal for the game also we could have someone here like theo to to be like oh don't well hmm don't read that one it's a bad one we just close the chat just ignore it completely because chats while people are playing through video games oh i can get bad unless you're like draconian about it i just ignore this dude oh probably shouldn't okay uh patrick is the love child of ryan johnson and my dad's hairline oh so is that are the headphones large yeah they're i think by the by the amount of um by the amount that these things stretch i would imagine they would definitely fit on your head like you'd have to have a shockingly large head for these not to fit on you for sake when you collect all of your stupid golden hoops and then they all get knocked out so i can collect the amount you want die you stupid transformer maybe knuckles just break this shit there you go um erected by ryan johnson patrick willams i'm pretty sure it was directed but i'd be willing to believe that it was erected to and they took looks character and it was ejected i found me a button it's a shame that jj tried to correct it true that um very stories didn't feel connected there's this very p noise that left me feeling dejected there anymore i'm just saying i wish the story'd been perfected i'll stop now all three switches there's one there's two oh hang on team i will destroy the other one yeah this is very p noise weekend did did we can make p noises i don't think anyone remembers this horrifying though oh yeah but i'm so excited to potentially beat this i'm so tired of reading these super chats i hate my fans that's right i mohler of efab despise my audience muhaha why would we cackle after saying that that just sounds mean okay team blast fuck them up i mean skywalker sound is a world-class audio house but that's because of lucas oh but the praising the elements of the sequel trilogy being like the sounds yeah that's why we often don't really we're not surprised that the sound is good or the visuals are good or the the siege or or is that what i was supposed to do oh my god it was is he slowly becoming a bird oh i get it because because of the nose i follow rags is such a good good boy he just needs a little toy just true i don't know i even i feel that sans toy i'm still i'm still pretty good i can make my own fun we get it star wars and the last of us too bad please cover something else any thoughts on peeky blinders or deadwood be mean fucking the last stream we did we covered the the boy season two that's going to be next and then several tangents we went on in this stream we were talking about like the mechanics of space battles for a while um the last of us two one was because internet janitor wanted to be on and that wasn't even the video coverage of that episode so some people don't even like know what's actually being covered they just look at the title they just wish to complain yeah can't do that also isn't that's never really been what we're about like x thing bad move on it's more like talk through all of the discussions that come with thing hmm oh there's the switch ah bonjour i don't know what any of that means but i appreciate it maybe a little long man i just finished your amnesia versus soma dissection i hate being scared self-admitted chris noid here but i've decided to play both wish me luck to not close the game every five minutes also hello rags hello um soma isn't as scary as amnesia is it's more haunting um friend of mine actually played soma for the first time recently and said that it's way scarier than amnesia so i guess it's really down to the piss i yeah i guess like soma for me wasn't as scary as amnesia but i like i think it's better game i think it's more enjoyable i think what it achieves is more impressive than amnesia i do think amnesia scary though yeah dread is more what i'd associate with soma slip distinction that maybe yeah it's suspenseful um atmospheric this is cringe i know this switch works you have to hold down but there you go finally i just did the same thing like 15 times in a row and only the 15th worked it's like oh god kill me it's okay sonic heroes just don't repeat this level and maybe i will spare you from my my eye my stink eye why do they send these guys in all the time oh no oh almost done locked oh we were close to that one don't think i'm not keeping my eye on you video game a while ago you answered a super chat about what important lessons you teach your children personally mine would be to always keep learning and to not be fat um yeah i'd say both of those i mean it's good advice yeah always be learning is like fuck that was the thing we didn't even cover about the boys wasn't it like the kid says something about his mom giving him a lesson about how important learning is mom says like i always i could i should always keep learning and homeland it's like oh she has so many of those little sayings doesn't she it's like what are you what do you have like even like in your character what's left of it what problem do you have with that you should be using that and then teaching him something that you want him to learn using that as a way to get him to learn it hey theo you watched game of thrones right yeah do you remember the scene where as soon as joffrey's dead tywin starts getting into tomon's mind it's like i want to say it's see season four right yeah because yeah um yeah it's really awesome this one's gonna say everything tywin says so i actually you know i'm gonna show you that rags once once once we have a sack as soon as the stream's over it's only quick but it's just okay it's like minutes um all right but well if it's only minutes i guess i i guess i can spare minutes some tywin talking about how it's tomon assumes what the most important things are about a leader and then tywin gives him a big old lesson about the most important thing which is going to be pretty hard for anybody to disagree with it's a really cool little scene of him slowly getting his influence in tomon already which seriously is against but it's funny because it's just like i don't know if you're gonna be influenced by anybody tywin's a pretty good one he knows his shit um but yeah homeland is just again cartoonish like learning who needs that uh kylo is complex like a landfill yeah that can they can be complex landfills all kinds of stuff all over the place kylo is a landfill beautiful uh looks like old bitter bald balls can't let it go who's the man baby now patty willm stad willm stad um i mean as far as he's concerned he is and has we're the ones who have not so uh we'll get there one day he's he's already made it he's not bitter at all i want to let you know that tlj is pretty good because it it reinvented stars oh that did kill it nice um sfo was demon demonized let's get some fs in chat hi r sfo yeah short fatataku oh hopefully he can get remodeltized soon but uh yeah that always sucks to hear that someone's been demonetized it it really fucking sucks oh maybe ethan can help him um saved uh count ankula right who knows uh tlj is surface level pretending to be deep flits with going in a new direction but we end up back at square one rips off both empire and jedi well that's what i mean it's always awkward to listen to um tlj fans criticize tros because they often seem to be saying things that are like applicable to tlj you know i was just like hmm the sequel take on the jedi's literal revisionism yeah it's really annoying it comes from luke of all people he's like oh the jedi sucks like what the fuck luke hey have we uh have we read the super chest from 103 yet no all right no we haven't um we'll we're gonna have to get this is the thing the reason why we're having trouble this time around is because we've got loads of things scheduled in a row rags and i contrary to what might have been assumed aren't actually free for extended periods of time at the exact same time a lot of the time that was a lot yeah um i like we lucked out by like the boys last episode coming out when it did uh because i would have been out already if uh if if we would have if i wouldn't able to sleep then this dream wouldn't have we would have ended already yeah i would have been just fucking dead i got them hunger tisms as well but um you know we will get to them i just have to look at the calendar and figure out when we can can do it yeah we got a lot going for this october don't be fun but also yeah good stuff um but yeah we busy busy theory for the female characters are mary sues because right as fear negative reactions to depicting women's suffering and or struggling outside of horror films i i partially agree with that i think that's a fair theory to be honest with you um if being powerful in the force was all about bloodlines and arranged marriages to create powerful force users would exist in this universe yeah um again it just doesn't follow you see the prequel world and you're like there's no obsession with bloodlines um there's no like we need to get the like yoda you need to fuck a whole bunch of bitches yeah the the idea that bloodlines are where the force comes from and some bloodlines are particularly strong in the force there's no fucking way that they'd say yeah you can't have kids it's like astrology right it's like astrology if astrology was real it would be what our entire society was based around that would be the core foundation of civilization would be astrology if it was actually real right i mean yeah if it was fucking real i'd be crazy i feel these and help people out a lot more by going through the astro the whole appeal of that is just like you fit your life around whatever it's described as because it's broad enough so i said no because they would want less force sensitive people uh what what why to me it looks like the jedi are trying to increase their numbers yeah the the jedi don't want to not exist and what is he what is he even stuck on there's no he's just in the middle of the fucking arena do you guys see in this this would he click it um he's just standing there walking in place he's moonwalking not really but um mollus solo could have been good just doing the story of meeting chubaca or just the castle run but no they have to do everything gay um i mean it's surely theoretically then if they were going to do everything it could still be good too just need to do it right but uh yeah i mean i agree i think that uh are they taking it carefully can be good isn't the point of a hologram that it's blue yet moles lightsaber and solo was red shake my head um it's an advanced hologram it's a oh well you see the dark side is a pathway to many abilities that some would sit on natural is it possible to learn this power not from all of those pussies in the temple but sonic just said the word humongous sigh who cares if the force is genetic or midichlorian based you are never going to be a jedi the force isn't real hi wags hi i don't think that was ever under i don't know who brought that up yeah i'm sure patrick wants to be a jedi though what anti-virus software do you guys use high regs hi um i think mine is like uh uh are they just the typical windows security and it's something else i have to double check it's like webroot or something yeah i'd have to check remember don't know the name of it is yeah i just never think about it if you're ever in a lot of stress about that though just look around for like different oh really what was i supposed to do why did the camera not keep up with me so i could even see my death was i just not going fast enough was that really what that was or did i have to use fly i guess we'll find out next time um but yeah look around on lots of up-to-date discussions and you'll find uh best recommendations for whatever programs i'm assuming that's why you're asking um misa banished a star wars story oh i mean i'd watch it i want to see what jar jar yeah i want to know what the fuck jar jar did to get how what did he do that was clumsy that got him banned from a city like i want to know i'm curious how royally did he fuck up poor jar jar um jar jar boom digasa destroyed a bubble's air system crashed a boss hey bibla crashed a vehicle owned by boss nas then banished destroyed a bubble's air system and crashed a vehicle owned by boss nas fuck like hundreds could have died holy fuck now i definitely want to see a bunch of well no because they can breathe water right yes yes yes he definitely oh so he just inconvenienced a lot of people he destroyed him and ruined all their paperwork so all right yeah all right well that's thought is metal as i thought it was but yeah he's a clump that's why they call it clumsy i guess i guess uh jar jar binks his life true a good vision of solo exists the eu book the hunt the hut gambit was what great and could have been a great movie fair enough i was from chris evans i didn't know he watched this i like you as captain america rags is just mean to jar jar he deserves love i wouldn't go that far yeah no yeah jar jar certainly deserves something okay do i have to jump now please don't kill me oh that worked oh i lost one of them oh my god this is so weird but okay am i at the end what's happening here god this game is strange um the manchurian gun gun i want to jar jar action jar jar binks action adventure video game yeah i'm gonna give it time maybe uh sith hunter jar jar again these are all options we could we could do them all what pirate ship do you use to watch movies if you catch my drift e words uh that's some no i don't know what you're talking about that you'd have to discover for yourself if you're interested in using a pirate ship to sail the seas yeah i i don't know them i don't know yeah uh most of the time i use a regular ship to sail the seas la la la oh oh shit did i just beat the game 20 emblems collected you can now play battle stages in two play mode wow thanks game hi quo uh lefada 2 for e-fab gaming halloween season if not then you have chosen death we've got loads of gaming things to do okay all kinds uh for halloweenisms you have to hopefully save some for next year i guess oh i guess this is the final boss fight exciting oh my god it's a giant mech eggman it's kind of reminding me of resneal for you wouldn't expect me to say that would you um bumble bumble rags and or molaris or whatever is present what's the best desktop computer for me to buy assuming laptops aren't a good choice for my youtube career and maybe for gaming as well so that's already a bit of a malformed question like what desktop would be well a desktop is a combination of parts so um that is a complicated question that i don't think we can give do uh i it depends on what you want to do it depends on what you want to do with it how much your budget is and how much umph and performance you went out of it because it can be as expensive and amazing or budget and passable as you want it to be um i mean i if you don't i would just like where to begin i guess you need a pc parts builder and then it's going to be really based on what you're looking for and how much you're willing to pay it's very complicated yeah well you can you know relatively one good option would be to i mean you do want to sort of start learning what all the parts do and a little bit about computers so maybe watch someone put one together watch jay's two cents or gamers nexus and linus tech tips and uh stuff like that watch channels uh talk about what the parts do or uh beginner's guide to computer videos and just sort of become mildly acquainted with what the parts are um one option would be to see if someone is just selling one locally because often you could get those super cheap and you know that they work um there's nothing oh by the way there's nothing wrong with buying a pre-built pc as long as you just get a good one that's worth the money some of them are bad but a lot of them are good there's nothing wrong with that don't let any elitism get to you if that's still out there for pre-built um but yeah just familiarize with yourself with the parts and some of the terminology uh decide kind of what your budget is and what you want to get um maybe don't go huge right off the bat but uh yeah just just just to familiarize yourself with pc building um i'm like i put my first computer together like watching a video of someone doing it on youtube i think it was Linus but they just did it and so i just kind of followed the steps um it's not too complicated but there is a lot of stuff to know stuff that could potentially go wrong but it's definitely worth it in the end undeniably it is worth it in the end um but yeah i i would say one some good advice would be um check craigslist or something like that and see if someone is just getting rid of an old one that they don't use anymore um because oftentimes they sell it for cheap because they don't have overhead and they just want to get rid of it and you can confirm that it works and a lot of the times those can be that's gonna be a really good way to get your hands on a pc that's you know parts complete that you can use and after you get that first computer and you kind of you know if you're satisfied with what you have and you can establish a baseline for what's good for you in terms of quality and performance excellent if you want to go bigger like what i did my first computer was okay kind of middle of the road but i fell in love with pc gaming and so i got a much better one next computer i got and i'm probably gonna get another computer next year once this new ryzen set comes out for cpus and the 30 series cards are more you know normalized as well um but yeah um yeah just do that just just do research learn about stuff yeah it's a complicated question to answer in a simple way like what yeah it really is well lots of other questions trying to yeah treating it like it's simple would be a disservice to you um it's not as complicated as you think but there are a lot of things you should learn about it and once you do it's very rewarding and it'll definitely be worth it and i highly recommend it black jar jar down jar wars a bank story saving private jar run jar of genesis jar jar genesis the whole world's come undone jar jar's got a gun gun joker you so get what you so fucking deserve the more he talks about how he doesn't like callbacks or mentioning the older stories just because he wants only new stuff it sounds like he hates the old um it's the it's the you have to do it the perfect kind of way he likes it being called back in a particular kind of way like like tlj does it oh like that come on knuckles do it buddy reservoir gungans also high l high i mean high rags hey i was a man of three out of ten with tlj's three out of ten man is better like i said a man who can be a strong three he'll take a week three simple explanations also die robots please gotta do something about the shield first oh my god what oh wait i've nearly got team blast that'll make me happy i will get up eventually there we go um have gun gun will travel saving mr banks black misa sauce the banks identity stranger banks kick nas jar apocalypse now the shore bank redemption yeah infinite potential listen there were some good ones in there there were some good ones in there don't bang man a good laugh lord of the banks misa robot the gung father uh batman batwoman is a one and ghostbusters you're being too nice ghostbusters isn't that bad i'm sorry we gotta gotta categorize this right ghostbusters 2016 is awful but you don't understand it's like four was it does that what we said it's probably three or four but like infinititisms man like there's nothing quite like it yeah what you're talking about crisis on infinite earth yeah that's like one like that that's it's it's how nonsense like i said before it checks the box for fulfilling the definition of a story but it's so nonsensical that i can't rate it higher than just what's barely necessary essentially the also said an amd man no i actually have an intel in my computer right now i have an i9-9900k but i hear that this next series of amd cpus is going to be fucking banger so i'm very very curious to see how that's going to be so we'll see how the benchmarking is for this next series of amd chips cpus that is i'm i don't have i don't have any allegiances to really parts and stuff especially when it comes to cpus um but i hear intel's really been dropping the ball lately all threes are equal but some threes are more equal than other threes so yeah not all threes are exactly the same an out of 10 system is a super simplified way of just quickly and loosely conveying the quality of something in a broad sense it shouldn't be used with any super serious level of you know adherence well okay should be focusing more on making sure i collect my golden hoops uh hi j rags you make videos uh yeah i haven't for a while but i'm working on one now and i've got some plans for stuff after that i'm gonna get back to the swing of things and it'll be great and having fun working on this video the binks that gungans forgot but being like ign by using decimals it sucks what do you mean i could be okay with numbers but not decimals what if anything decimals would let us be more accurate yeah like why would you be anti decimal at that point it's like i'm okay with one out of tens but i'm not okay with one 10 out of 100s it's like why i don't see i don't see what the problem with decimals is leave decimals alone hashtag decimals are cool so i'm saying if you're upgrading from a 9900k you're insane so here's the thing um i've got a 2080 ti am i computer now um the 30s the 30 because because of how much i use my computer especially how much i'm going to use it for like video editing and stuff the 3090 is pretty appealing to me especially with how much i play games on it the performance differences i mean i'm really i'm willing to splurge on a computer because i use it all the time and it's a huge part of work and play and communication and all that sort of thing um so next year sometime i'm going to get a computer that will probably have a 3090 in it of some kind because that's a pretty big bump up for a performance from a 2080 ti um and i will sell my old computer and i'll probably get a decent amount of money for it because it is a really strong computer and uh i'll i'll get a fair amount of it like uh remember 2080s didn't magically get less performance somehow um but i'll get a really you know i have reasons for doing it and what the reasons i use don't necessarily have to be yours you know i don't blame people for splurging on stuff but there are things i splurge on and a computer is one of them because of how much i use it and how important it is to me so there you go and so operating cpu is not the same boat park is operating a gpu i know but if i'm gonna get it but i just uh this is all tentative of course however the new cpus i hear they're gonna be quite a bump up so you know if i could get a new thing and sell the old thing and only pay the difference between the two that's an appealing idea for me um especially with how big the jump in performance will be for me or how much i use it what's great about pc is that everyone can make these kind of assessments um as they wish what a wonderful one to next up read rags has no standards he's just justifying his bs um okay if you didn't specify that he was poorly justifying his bs instead you just said he's justifying his bs sounds like his bs is justified someone said someone said rags wait till someone said wait till ddr five like like memory because the 30 90s use g ddr six x so i don't know what you're referring to there unless i'm just not reading that right game get a grip jesus someone said buy 30 on me put in your current pc here's the thing with the new cpu stuff i might not i'll just make a new one so that's the thing like i i'm only paying for the difference in the two because i'm gonna sell the old one and selling the old one will still get me quite a bit of money and plus i don't want to just flop i would really with with the kind of the with the bump that the 30 90 is i'm just gonna probably build a computer that's kind of dedicated around it because it's such a big bump up oh mobile ddr five yeah that's another thing too uh but but you're talking about i thought you're talking about gpu memory and i was like wait what and i had to double check it but um no dance dance revolution five he's not regular around i got you i got you but yeah that's why i'm waiting like this will be something i do next year sometime next year so so you may be better off getting a 38 or 30 70 no i wouldn't all right then i don't know no i'm not gonna get no i wouldn't get a 30 80 rax is not going to be getting a an xbox or a playstation i don't think no no i have i have no interest in a console my previous comment was assuming you're gonna build a new pc yeah i will yeah my new computer will be a new pc yeah so i was trying to get all your rings back my deaths have not been tied to me getting my rings back i've been insta killed every fucking time so the game blasts me off the god damn platforms there's anything to do with me i don't care if you don't like watching me collect my rings me dying has been tied specifically to the boosting platforms and this fucker getting in the way and it just like staggers the characters midair and they fold their deaths it's really fun just saying like me taking hits at each time like here i don't actually care that that's me failing so it doesn't lead to my death someone said i mean you could say you want to gen four pci express so gen four uh the pc i express lots um i think gamers nexus did a comparison with i forget if i think it was with the 30 80 where they compared the performance difference between a pc i gen three and gen four and the difference was like one two percent it was basically nothing so those in and of itself i'm i don't i don't care about um so those those aren't really gonna make a difference as far as i know and i'm all back eventually i'm not even clear on um what these power-ups do just grab the betty way also the um just constantly getting hit hey my team made it oh no they didn't i know they did they're still on the track apparently the rtx 30 90 has enough gpu memory to install and run crisis three sweet this guy installed crisis three onto his graphics card that is shockingly interesting wow that's kind of crazy job ink job ink chapter two job ink oh i get it job ink chapter three power bell and i follow that's like that movie dorm wim uh so according to patrick's argument tlj is a bad paint job of empire and jedi yeah it all makes sense it doesn't help that the camera is also ass in games like this when everything's really fast it's the time we need the camera to really work with you i've had this exact conversation helmets are hats but not all hats are helmets um i don't know i guess it depends i mean in a video game it would probably be in the category of hats or headwear but that's very loose um i wouldn't consider a helmet a hat like only in the most broad technical sense but when you say when you say hat people think of like a trilby or a baseball cap or something of like that right they don't think about um a helmet and if yeah i think they're different enough yeah i wouldn't consider them yeah the same only in the most broad sense which almost to the point of uselessness if you say tlj is a 29 out of 100 then it's a high two not a low three is that right no isn't it because the threshold would be from 25 to 34 for 30 so it would it would be a low three if it were 29 yeah um avajar the last air binkler binkler's list binkler's list uh speaking of ruby rose's acting thought she was pretty good in x x x three yes it was a speaking role she was quite badass oh triple x i haven't seen triple x three i didn't even know there was a third one maybe i did know um she was quite badass and frankly kind of hot in fact the movie was the reason for my crush on her until her nonsense on batwoman as an act around a person um i haven't seen it but all right also team blast fuck yo uh so according to him you can't have any mandalorian characters or their boba fat ripoffs and yeah it was really weird from it felt like he hadn't seen the show from to say that there was a really weird criticism some people bring up just like oh boba fat ripoffs like what do you mean what are you mean all right it's weird that what he was showing while trying to say it's a contrivance that the character was basically like a boba fat ripoff when mando was like walking into the same cantina from episode four and the same like basically the same shot copy was like you think you'd address that but uh i have a shield okay ready go eggman can't even keep up with me i'm so pro oh oh i guess he you like teleport in front of me and it killed me cool so according to him you can't have oh yeah binks on the river quay jarticus inglorious binks did the jar jar duke binkler's list the gun gun husa shot liberty valance who's uh bink hawk down uh plot dot story i think what they meant it's just plot devices and contrivances instead of actual story that doesn't quite make sense uh plot devices and contrives would be a part of the story what does it mean to have an actual story are you referring to like character stuff i'm just i'm i'm not clear on that one because like i said story is to me has always been a um an umbrella for the whole thing to me yeah story contains plot and narrative but neither of those two contain story in its entirety is how i see it it's fine with me the story is just the whole package of thing just the actual oh it's gonna knock me out don't do it it didn't okay cool killed tail made weird noises remember not to get left behind good for you knuckles you're clearly good hello again e-fap crew for the second week in a row i catch you streaming as i leave work thanks for all the wonderful content it's kept me very entertained as i cut limestone also high rags oh hello interesting profession you have that man enjoy slicing up that limestone fuck it up do it yeah oh that hit me excuse me eggman don't hit me while i collect my hoops also that that robot just kicking all kinds of ass over here i suppose i shouldn't be too mean to a sonic game for today i it's probably taking harsh shots no it means but all right let's hit him with our thing and then team blast yeah hey masses play out to wilds see another recommendation yeah we kind of get a lot of us i think this video is pat w's attempt to get on e-fap i don't think he wants to be anywhere near even slightly interested oh i died okay um yeah i think he would consider it like an incredibly bad career move to come on e-fap not only because he would struggle to like talk about tlj probably but also because i think the people he likes would consider it like boosting us or something and that you shouldn't do that because we're harassment podcast did Thor Skywalker accept his invite on twitter yeah we're gonna try and set up an episode at some point jar jodians of the galaxy rags guns were mentioned how did you feel about the veteran who defended himself against rioters clearly in vid but was forced to face charges i think it's horseshit i don't know that that kind of thing shouldn't happen it's a it's a blatant issue i uh how that all ended is um is despicable quite frankly and it's a tragedy how that all ended and it makes me upset to hear about it shouldn't be like that should not be like that at all rags how do i join your discord i've been following you since gamergate oh wow um send me a message on discord i guess no send you a invite rags hashtag 3000 stop it with the hot takes this shit's too funny two hours in okay there's there's no way we're at two hours on these because we can warren jay aren't there i'm pretty sure lies um my hot take efap is too damn good oh that's a that's a good one that's not that hot we're throwing this rocket take me um molar in the boys finale stormfront was lasered away by the kid but back it was hurt by stormfront's hand on her neck that was pushed away not laser what she's bleeding well but so they literally say it was the kid who killed her uh oblander says are you really going to um like protect the kid who killed your wife or something like that and butcher said i promised her feels like i'm getting too conflicting stories here and one of them is from the show so i'm gonna believe that guy also egg man come back wait did i even get to team blast him yet maybe i team i can team blast him when he runs up to me with his gay charge do it oh that was probably too early um ray skywalker then ray is shot in the face you killed my husband now i am all of the sith she says that she spins autistically into the sunset oh the old woman like ray killed the old woman's husband at some point maybe no the the old woman i guess was palpatine's wife he's like oh he killed my husband now she turns into a super evil sith woman that was great i love it i like it couldn't have grabbed that one hoop as i ran toward the speed thing it bounced over my head i'm pretty sure that it's just some depressing luck right there more to come back i'm scared i'm here do not panic you guys should totally cover hello future me's loss was two of it he presents new arguments that desperately need the e-fab treatment ska e olsa like i said maybe one day also every time you guys tell us that it's not the case the amount of times we have to color it yeah our tlj video that was considered like a brand new take it's gonna really make you think it was like the same shit again and again so maybe the discourse is close to is pretty much over everything that could be said has been said yeah we've heard all the shitty arguments they're all gold old fucking stan lock if patrick was a character you'd say he's badly written yeah probably he's acting weird very inconsistent severe cognitive dissonance that poor man uh dead air cancer is greater than space cancer let's say so i don't have a serious cancer wouldn't want to die now would you all right please don't kill me and how do i expect anything oh alive by the okay i went through the floor for a second there but i'm alive that's what's important oh i love it when the game does that uh they're talking about horses having sex what is this hoops i've heard the comedy in that show is is is very good uh chad i'm the guy writing a fantasy novel with you guys as cameos please ask metal and j how they see the youtube personas as fantasy characters i'm afraid both of them aren't here right now but uh they both stream so it'll be easy to find their answers um yeah or ask them on twitter that would also work they're talking about oh wait uh rags i will be writing your character in my story as a female bard who tried to seduce the wrong witch and was cursed to be a dog you haven't bothered to lift the curse because this new form is fine oh well that's me a pretty great dog oh i'm ahead of him this time will you kill me game let's see what you decide oh you didn't good job i feel betrayed is this because of patrick willams not behaving like patrick willams anymore moopla the russos didn't write any of their films they had almost no involvement with the writing so don't get to the so don't get the to a degree thing you should say that about the actual writers cm and sm yeah if you follow um all the the shit that they talk about when it comes to writing creating it's the team of four is what they say is the the main writing goes to the primary writers but the russos have loads of input in how the stories go um same by the way with uh decisions for characters they would they said that they would get input from the people who play the characters that's actually going to come up in tfa part either four or five i can't quite remember though um and i think the russos are credited as um related to the writing as well as uh something in mcfeely right i think they're the writers oh my god this is cringe have my hoops please yeah um it's rare we'll ever know as an audience who exactly wrote what but if they tell you that these people you know were involved i think it's worth mentioning them and uh whenever they're asked questions about endgame and infinity all the russos treated as though it was uh something that they wouldn't not only involved in writing with but approved of and i think that's important because a lot of people try and figure out is it kathleen kennedy's fault that um tlj is the way that it is or is it ryan's fault or is it both who really knows the answer oh you're a you're a fun robot um molla please say thanos lines as plot with the gauntlet in the motherfucking glove box and force one quarter portion for every meal per person the the thanos lines as plot with the gauntlet in the glove box and force a quarter portion for every meal per person i mean we you know i think that would be cruel to some people some people out there just need like way more than that i'm thinking like wouldn't movie bob die if we got to the point of when you're providing a quarter portion to everybody i don't know wouldn't want that most people get annoyed when a story lacks character or will consistency do you think there'd be a way to write a story with deliberately inconsistent characters or willed and how would you judge it i'd need an example of possible that concept exactly is deliberately inconsistent like what what does that entail what are we thinking about here yeah i'm not saying definitively it's not possible but i couldn't think off the top of my head of a good way to do it i'd have to think about it like maybe like maybe someone can spot inconsistencies in a world and that world isn't real like they're in some sort of a human simulation and they and they spot inconsistencies and that's that's what clues them in or maybe it's like a parody yeah but at that point is that breaking the requirement because that all is contextualizing it to make sense i want because i yeah this is why i want examples just to know what they're thinking about when they say if it is something like the matrix having inconsistencies i'd be like oh well yeah but that's explained by it being the matrix yeah i got i'm not sure um but like if it's supposed to be like real world stuff but it's good i just don't know i can't think of any off the top of my head but i'm not going to say that it definitely isn't possible like someone has bipolar like i said inconsistent or unreliable narrator is another thing as well but again that's like a way to justify how things aren't making sense it is so then they make sense if you if you get what i'm saying so i just i'm looking for different kind of example than that lightsabers lightsaber blockers were in the prequels yeah the magna guards right they had little staffs yeah yep could new technology be referring to filming tech um from george maybe yeah someone said do you think george is referring to make your film making technology i'm sure they have tech that they didn't have 20 years ago and in that case is he just he just wasn't wowed by it i don't know makes it kind of a weird comment yeah be curious what you'd be expecting in terms of new filmmaking stuff that would wow him yeah and the rest of the stuff on that list was in universe i assume that the technology part was also in the universe as well like new characters for the rule of cool is the most important part of star wars that was the original clone wars animated series in a nutshell like the rule of cool i don't like it every time someone brings up a rule of cool it seems to be in relation to excuse this being stupid it's cool yeah we're gonna have to make this make sense oh cool stuff is in earth okay it's not hard to make stuff make sense and be cool unless you just mean we need to have the presence of cool stuff then i guess that just creates a challenge doesn't it so can we have a good movie well no cool stuff is it it just really um yeah uh we watched one and you're never uh i'm thinking of ending things uh no cool stuff in that at all it was cold yeah parts of it that counts right just under wonder what i'm supposed to do to escape that move certainly not supposed to tank it i don't think oh that kind of blocked it if the camera had shown me what i even did oh oh there's all my hoops gone give me another one that'll oh god camera please i beg you am i going backwards right now yeah i am okay oh there goes knuckles goddammit j you're justifying why spaceships don't know which way is up uh well partially the reason is the lack of war it was explained that each time there was a war technology would increase 10 uh 1 000 years a piece would lead would cause a stagnant for a time legends by the way i don't think we would stop innovating if there were no war and if you want to argue that that's just how the stylist universe did i'd be like uh a bit weird or yeah drives innovation it doesn't it doesn't mean it's the only time it happens i mean i'm like it's theoretically possible that a society gets to a point where they sort of plateau in their technology and they don't discover anything new or revolutionary they just super refine the stuff that they know and understand and just make that as good as it could kind of get i guess it's theoretically possible yeah um but otherwise uh yeah i mean it's possible honestly it doesn't create a much of an issue for me um it's not like impossible i'd say it's probably unlikely but i can believe that a certain universe like has that thing where they plateau in their technology um so yeah i it it depends on the era too um like it it's easier for me to believe that a a spacefaring civilization is at the limits of what is what is what is possible for them to do then it is for me to believe that a society with i guess like medieval technology would never improve on anything but that's just me and neither of those things bug me so i don't really worry about it and i think that yeah i don't think i don't think it would bug too many people but or try to find a lower reason try to find a lower reason why technology is stagnating why technology never goes past a certain point like is there some is there some supernatural force that prevents people from having ingenuity that would like that would that would let them harness electricity and gunpowder is there some kind of a mental phenomenon that stops people from being able to learn how to split atoms or things like that i don't i don't know it's um now is there a religious reason like is there a is is the is a civilization dominated by a culture by a religion that actively works against technological progress for some reason like the mechanics yeah yeah uh kind of like warhammer uh so you know is is there some kind of great cataclysm uh that prevents people from learning technology and it's sort of like hits the reset button on things i it's up to you i guess that's where a lot of the you know talent writing comes in is like how do we make these ideas work and function how do i how do i get the thing i want in a way that sort of makes sense and is believable but you've got options you've got options do you have any more vorne fry videos lined up he's a he's the bad stand-up comedian with dick sacks mocking to protect him he was so cringe and would love to see more no we we we don't but i mean you know who knows what the future holds i suppose um someone i thought you guys stay away from arguments like it doesn't bug me um so that's not why it would be okay like i already i i expressed in that spiel why it's okay in universe uh because it's totally possible that it happens it doesn't break its own rules it doesn't like for instance the the progression of technology in a fantasy world does not have to exactly match our own um and if you in it and it doesn't bother me to examine it super closely um if it it doesn't break its own rules um but there there are plenty of i believe there are plenty of lore friendly in universe reasons why you could have a technological stagnation in different societies and cultures and i assume that's what happens and i think it's reasonable to assume that there is an in-universe reason for a lot of this stuff um be it just like uh you know some of the things that i mentioned like i i don't consider it it's not an objective flaw and i can't justify it being an objective flaw with the fact that you know after 3000 years people in lord of the rings are still using swords and bows and arrows and things um there we go we already orient on arbitrary designations on earth north south east west are completely arbitrary and there's no reason they couldn't be projected indefinitely into space i don't know yeah you just you you all you would have to do is like you could use like the positioning of stars in the galaxy or everyone agrees on a fixed quote unquote north star or some navigational point that's the reference for everything and then you just create a grid system built off of that and you're good like i don't think it would be i i think it would i think it would be extremely easy for uh that to be done i think the hard for for spacefaring civilizations i think the difficult part would be on them deciding what the standardization is um standard is yeah the standardization is um getting everybody to come agree on what it is they're agreeing on as on as that sounds um but yeah in and of itself technologically i don't think it'd be an issue at all what do you think about a review where you analyze each character individually actions motives etc instead of analyzing the media chronologically love to hear your opinion on it you think it could work um i don't see why no i'm assuming you take one at a time and go through their sort of journey in the thing and then maybe have a role since you're done yeah it could work yeah i think you could do that absolutely i generally prefer chronologically for the story um with with tangents here and there based on um where you think it's most appropriate like i decided to talk about in my Mando review the the fobs require their own full discussion and i get that out of the way kind of early because it is going to have a lot of lasting impacts and stuff like that that i'm going to be calling back to um so it's up to you both can work i just have my preference it's easy to follow for me yeah i i've always liked the chronological it kind of kills an extra bird too of uh someone who's not experienced the content whatsoever when you go chronological they can follow along they can be like even if i'm not invested or know nothing about this thing it's like oh i understand this character is doing this thing i see so the problem with stars is that they don't stay in the same place forever so that's not a problem because we know that um as hard as this is to believe we are our society already operates under this system um Polaris for instance is our north star it won't always be our north star and it hasn't always been our north star the ancient egyptians for instance when they use their north star to build their pyramids and navigate and everything like that their north star was thuban um so yeah eventually stars do move slowly but surely but it is extremely slow to the point where we we know what like we know what upcoming north stars will be we know what the old ones were as well um that would not be any problem for a space faring uh civilization to calculate because we're literally doing that right now with our stars patrick is changing his spots for money nothing more he wants on ephat because his base left him he wants us because he saw the tonal video redemption it's a trap i'm gonna guess that's not the case but as always patrick would probably not okay i love the idea patrick saw the the tonal ephat and was like you know what it would take a tonal yeah one thing i'm sure there's a real human being uh under patrick's insanity it's just um gonna be difficult to be able to crack through to it you know he's gonna be like no you guys the the problem with the fan base all right yeah he just chose like the worst possible profession for him to have wombo didn't think you literally meant the rusos were the writers as someone decided to point out just thought we should pin the blame slash praise on writers christopher marcus and steve mcfeeley yeah marcus and mcfeeley that's the two um the rusos i always think a director should be getting a praise or blame the overall project anyway and uh yeah i uh their writing input was in all of the films with those two writers as well but those two are the main writers true prequels are great you pretentious balding bean head oh my god i'm sorry no um they're not yeah the prequels are bad i can appreciate them for what they did but uh they're not good hot take muller is actually a little devil person oh what a throwback reference to efab movies wish upon do you remember someone mentioned the ancient chinese death box and the malon comments the one movie comments and i'm like that's an overreference and i like it yeah man wish upon if it got a sequel we would jump on that shit we're big fans of incredible excellent content you know that's just us also god this camera actually makes me want to kill myself what is it doing right now oh like it's bad enough when you have to deal with the clunky ass controls of everything and how everything works but when you have a camera that is almost like what's the opposite of cheerleading um being i'm trying to make something that rhymes do something super clever um nay saying kind of yeah i think that applies booing that's the that's the way to translate my idea really fast it doesn't really have a reason instead of leading cheer you're saying nay mm-hmm there you go that was the clever way button cheerleading take this take this check cool badman oh eggman why do the coins leads that uh the awkwardly walk back aha i was too fast from the fucking oh i wasn't even so in efab one on one you guys were discussing the ranking system you mentioned that you were unsure that any movie was a perfect 10 i'm just a little curious but you wouldn't rank lord the ring civil war joker prestige or infinity war is 10 i rags no i think so i think there's problem remember any flaw no matter how small means it can't be a 10 10 is perfect 12 angry man might be able to do it um yeah all my other ones i i absolutely believe that there are probably 10 out of 10 movies that legit do not have any flaws um in fact it would it would be super easy to make an objectively perfect movie we use the the um the example of just a chair in a room just a chair in a room for like a fuck at 90 minutes objectively there's nothing wrong there it's perfect it's just super boring there's no point in doing it um but it does it here to the rules which is why you know we always talk about subjective and objective stuff and yeah we like to talk about why it makes us feel certain ways and why it's wild trying to avoid making your audience feel certain ways for example these are things we talk about if you want to make luke a coward it's like is that possible it's like yes but i don't know why you would want to do that yeah it's gonna bring up some issues with the audience for sure yeah but i i don't think there can be a zero because it wouldn't qualify as a film to be even in the ranking but i think it's a you know it's like it's like kelvin you can't have zero kelvin but you can just keep going hotter and hotter and hotter oh my god he didn't teleport in front of me he was only after ha ha egg man you've been foiled patrick should just pretend he likes tross someone says 10 is perfect in which case nothing is perfect as humans can't make something perfect i do not agree with that depending on the standard of course they can i mean like especially yeah with like standards and definitions and mathematics and things like that yeah um like human can you make a 90 degree angle equation it's like yeah like it's real yeah you can do things that are perfect oftentimes they're simple um but yeah um humans can definitely do things oh i got two last week like for instance there is a um like in speed running there are perfect speed runs that you can do um there where there's literal limits to how fast a game can go based on its coding and its mechanics um and you can get a perfect speed run and it is impossible to do any better mm-hmm yeah like i said it's always going to be in reference to something else egg man you're so annoying someone said wouldn't the heat death of the universe to a zero kelvin no it means that the universe has reached a state of entropy and the temperature is exactly the same everywhere uh but it would be spread out across all the universe so it wouldn't be that because zero kelvin basically isn't possible because there would be no like atomic activity whatsoever so there wouldn't be a thing to measure through kelvin as far as i know i might be wrong but i think that's how it works um if i'm wrong uh do correct me but i i think that is the case that you can't have something with like literally no atomic movement whatsoever but things can keep getting hotter and hotter and hotter but there is a limit to how cold things can get however how cool i can be is limitless so eggman open up your chest so i don't fuck up team blast hey oh no no no you're leaving eggman why all right well i'm gonna try and use team blast when he fucking charges on me anyway because i feel like i gotta use it okay case oh god here come can't you just add more heat yes he can let's hope he does but i don't think it's a problem that any of us are gonna have to worry about oh the camera makes me want to um spider-man sins past is a really horrific story the only right thing patrick said though you can adapt it to be a good story similar to civil war oof i'll have you know that many people think the civil war comic is very good so careful with your heart take accidental there but yeah it didn't it didn't seem like there's a lot of hope for that sins past thing looked like looked like a weird man patrick is one percent cinematography 99 percent pretentious he does like his cinematography that's true tis photography tis cinematography nice clear and exactly when this that wasn't the safe time please game have some mercy on me it's probably the closest i've gotten like bowser's such a nice man compared to this eggman bowser was a fucking chad yeah i'd suck bowser's cock i wouldn't suck eggman's cock yeah eggman's a weirdo i'm gonna say it yeah it's fucking freak it's ugly bowser i feel like you could have a drink with bowser talk about mario being a prick kill patrick's hair right now oh my god do you guys think this is his worst video no i think that that video was actually probably one of his better ones i'm trying to remember really it's been so long since we've covered patrick well yeah he's the one who you made sure about blood holes do you remember shut up about blood holes i remember that yeah that was like two or something i was fucking terrible four two on east on bad as in well wait i haven't seen all of his videos i'm just talking about the e-fab covered yeah sure i guess yeah he's um yeah he has some interesting things that he does can i have team blast now please please please please laughing at me eggman find it rude oh he's running away a lot bit okay maybe if i'm gonna bait this charge out of him whoa oh that didn't work out in conclusion star wars fans oh in conclusion star wars fans want is more star wars and that's a bad but what patrick wants star wars to not be star wars and that's good play some uh sounds about right star wars needs to evolve all right once it evolves it'll be safe from the evil clutches of the fans that are trying to keep it the way it is thank you eggman very kindly also i have team bless this time okay we're gonna be great i'll take but i think in spider-man 2 i like hentai fair enough okay you cannot hurt can argue with that probably because i don't know what to argue with yeah we you know we welcome the hot takes and that was one of them shadow uses a gun because unlike sonic he kills his enemies it's consistent with his character shadow using a gun is objectively good writing don't know if troll oh it's a good name i'm sure uh hey you massives hi rags hello have you watched cowboy bebop it's definitely among the best meteor out there great writing animation music and everything i have watched cowboy bebop and it is very excellent i do like it quite a lot i have not i've had a recommend it a lot because he likes his bounty hunters and that's what is it it's about right oh yeah you you definitely get more space bounty hunting and cowboy bebop than you do in you know and orion which has practically none as we as we discovered in attack of the clones anakin does more searching for people than mando ever does yeah unironically he does more investigative work um than mando does mando just follows the fucking thieves yeah man he's a legendary bounty hunter and that's what they do legendary god look how long i've exploded for what the fuck damn oh sweet i got an e use team rose to get all emeralds for true ending i'm okay i'm probably not gonna do that shadow rides a motorcycle because bikes are cool and one of his most iconic one-liners is i'm the coolest it makes sense he would ride a bike you know what they got this figured out yeah i'm the coolest great i'm the coolest that is a pretty cool catchphrase i'm the coolest i'm telling you he's a cool dude super cool um did anyone tell theo about the mother after his totally legitimate hot take on star wars the clone wars because boy howdy is that a trip in a half the mother don't know what that is the mother oh my god the game ends with rose trying to rape sonic what the fuck really hashtag me too hashtag run sonic oh my god this is the credits i did it sonic heroes everyone a great game everyone should check it out sounded like we had a lot of fun oh yes sonic is my baby i love the sonic games i don't find them cringy as hell and mechanically stunted to the point of feeling like i'm i shouldn't even be there sometimes i just hold forward and press a randomly and hope for the best it's not like i often compare it to mario where they're mechanically tight as fuck and so satisfying and it doesn't even matter what the paint job is because mario's mechanics are glorious it's not that that's the case whatsoever shut up all of you watching sonic's eyeballs float around in his white eyes are it's really unsettling yeah i don't know what's going on exactly it's uh it's creepy it's got giant eyeballs so did you not unlock the the the true like piss on the moon ending yeah i think you have to get all of the chaos emeralds to get the true ending um the chaos emeralds fucking classic shut rags you don't appreciate fantastic gaming sonic emeralds i love it so much um thank you for procrastinating for weeks and hiring a script consultant pat i have been in a bad place lately and your video is so crap and set the bar so low it's giving me new confidence to face life oh i was actually gonna say you know um despite the production value being garbador in terms of the script for pat i still think uh shut up about plot holes probably his worst video and like it'll be funny to maybe in the fifth year of efab to cover that video again as a throwback that'll be fun because um it's so awful diabolical we we we covered that like a day or two after it came out it was a interestingly time but i think that's i still i talk about this like it's it's part of what possibly made efab happen because i was like oh we should do what we did last time but with this video so thank you pat yeah that was oh what what a gold mine patrick is anyways guys no dino fun facts for you until you read the list i on the catch up you'll see soon so that's my last super chat for today see you boys thank you very much you know speaking of fun facts my grandfather has this book called who knew things you didn't know about things you know well like david hoffman he gave me this because he knows that i like little fun facts and stuff um so maybe every once in a while i will read from this book um so and it will slowly but surely learn a wide variety of very interesting facts that you can use to wow your friends and to pacify your enemies and so i'm going to open this up i've just opened it to page 101 this is a random fact uh remember to vote this to memory um despite its 216 minute running time lauren has no women in speaking roles all right so no wonder it's regarded as a classic of cinema and one of the greatest movies ever created uh there you go that's the there you go when you finish this game it says try another story no was happy picking rags to say his gramps has the necronomicon no but he is uh he is hanging in there so maybe let's see um oh his is fun because the studio expected it to bomb the budget of kasablanca was so low that the plane used in the background of the final scene was a small cardboard cutout to give it the illusion of being full-sized the producers hired midgets to portray the crew preparing it for tank off wow the more you know oh someone said i should read page 104 because of um because it's you know for some reason 104 is appropriate um oscar winner tommy lee jones was the college roommate of vice president al gore cool yeah harvard class of 1969 um but yeah that's sonic heroes everyone clap people like do team chaotix do team rose like no oh this is horrible team names ah hey team doc hey they're the dark team there's a batch don't ever could you tell your shadow looks so cool he's got red streaks in his black hair how cool is that yeah sonic is lame compared um yeah i don't know if we should we treat that as a as a good place to stop or did you guys want to carry on what how are we looking i think i could jump uh i can go on for a little bit longer very well wait so if you want to jump out do you yeah i need to go and get something to eat and then go die very well uh talk about your channel why do you always do this you know what i'm gonna say it'll eventually convince you to make something i swear there's a channel don't subscribe to it there's nothing on it there might be something on it eventually hopefully there we go oh wow if you type in theot tree you actually come up your channel and then the efap that we're doing right now really oh wow how is that possible like that's an extensive repertoire yeah but like how is it tagged i haven't got your i guess you're in the title is theo but not theot tree how's that happening i have no idea maybe it's the 565 subscribers i've accrued sitting on my ass what an a all of the videos smaller smart yeah what your extensive list of content yeah uh but thanks for having me on and stuff it's good fun absolutely it has been you survived the williams just about two doses of williams it's about all i need for a lifetime i guess uh yeah good night enjoy the rest of your night nearly said evening bye bye how day you disrespect the fnt is that a type of gun friday night tides oh the effort do they refer to friday night tides as the friday night tides the fnt i i don't know i i i guess i'm sure let me let me double check let me type it in and see fnt uh flint bishop airport yeah uh how day you disrespect the flint bishop airport it's out of a hole um can you guys explain to me why you guys think john wick is so good i thought it was meh it was really awesome yeah it was really awesome watching someone who is considered competent be competent it's really cool all the little things he does with the guns all for the sake of realism i love the world i like the idea that there's loads of assassins and that they have like this underground sort of understanding and even the yeah there's rules that they follow i think that is very very interesting and how like principally if you steal from me beat me up and kill my dog you're done like there's no way out of it and the whole film is like trying to stop the unstoppable force that is john wick it's a really cool little movie and i wish they stopped at one yeah john wick doesn't start out as the incompetent buffoon idiot that is constantly saved by plot armor that he is in the second and third films yeah he wasn't always like that i liked him when he wasn't uh today is not my birthday so happy unbirthday to me and all the massive little clown boys out there yeah happy birthday all of you uh random thought tross says the ships can't go up but as spaceships if they want forward in a straight line they would still leave the planet that's true yeah there's many ways for this yeah if you travel yeah that's right if you travel horizontally you will eventually leave the atmosphere not if you travel level though because level does not mean horizontal and level is not the same as flat and yeah like again you just need someone to go hey the floor is there so if we go the other direction we should be right that mola hold the jump button after you homing attack between the enemies and move forward in the air to get more distance oh i i got through it eventually um it just didn't work every time which is really really fun it's all good all cut up now on the boys why do all the writers of all things of media feel the need to cram their hatred of donald trump into everything i get it show i voted for trump and you think i'm a nuzzle fricks sake nuzzle fricks sake to be honest with you i'm surprised they didn't have more of it references to trump like some character who was you know uh trump basically yeah yeah just like a caricature sort of thing i'm waiting for it though i mean i'm gonna give a chance season three yeah they they they talk about a president in um the boys season two but they don't show him do they so um maybe season three we'll we'll get our trump or maybe they wait and just see who wins the election before they decide on what kind of president will be in the show who knows uh sonic friends get along like a house on fire it's a very wholesome little group i will agree with that i love me some anime but even then i agree with theo the clone wars is not good ps mecca anime is the best anime also high rags and theo hello um mecca anime does code gas come under mecca anime i assume it does i'm not sure a theo opinions on made an abyss love that show well if theo is in chat i will read out what he says if not try and catch him another time perhaps uh practically all anime is used toilet paper like all good jews i discourage people from watching it what does that even mean what also the moulard efab edits were hilarious yeah i'd hope so uh death bullshit did a really good job yeah he did that was fantastic how dare you stream on friday i can't watch you live now re oh don't worry it'll be it'll be uploaded on probably saturday depends on uh how long every brawl the processing takes um so theo when mol ended up taking over the mandalore by undermining vizsla and the rulers of the mando mandaloreans was it was bad everything he did a logical throughline um again i don't i don't see theo in chat i'm assuming he's not able to respond why do we get two things directed at theo as soon as he left once he leaves yeah i guess like see he said he could he'd talk about in the discord take that super chat that you asked you just ping discord at him uh harassed him molar did you see code guess i did i watched all of it or at least the all of it was there at the time i don't know if there's more now there might be uh molar i just bought a little a bottle of welsh whiskey in your honor pandaren if you know of it um i've not drank it myself but good stuff hope you enjoy welshy welsh whiskey interesting hi rags hey wondering what you guys think of red dead two if you played it personally i think the story is really good with good characters i've not i've only had good things yeah i've not played it i hear the single player is good here the online is not so much i know fringy loves it at least i think he does what did you say about bojack molar i stopped watching after season four because i felt that it was a good time to end it uh season four is the mum season right uh i just i thought bojack was shit is is my take um i don't know yeah i think most people would recommend you carry on best episode is the penultimate one it's probably worth seeing if you like to bojack at all have any of you seen the dh m i s series if so what do you think of it also hi rags or rye hags oh rye um the dh m i s series let's have a google dragon hunter oh don't hug me i'm scared you hug me i'm scared that's the youtube series that's basically like it's a good children's show but it's everything is just not quite right and it's terrifying at certain points oh it's kind of funny um i think i only watched one of them and i was sufficiently freaked out by it for genres like horror or soft fantasy i'd follow sanderson's first law an author's ability to solve conflict with magic is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said magic i think that's fair yeah of course you can have vagaries when it comes to magic to a degree but i think the better we understand the abilities of a character the the the easier to understand the stakes would be right that goes for like not just magic but um you know some guy is holding a sword to us we're like i guess he's got a sword you can do that it's like this is a veteran of 30 years he's one of the best warriors in the world you're like oh all right this is this guy has never used a sword before he just picked it up it's like those two are already better than not knowing that you know i mean it's just the more the more we know the more we understand the stakes um love you guys also high rags oh hi one was had one good moment theo is your last name tax and williams or genesis oh my god oh more for the love of god use your team blast when fighting the giant it's blinking yellow in the top right corner i did say it was it was using it from the halloweeny levels so this was the coming after that you have to use it at the right time can't just use it willy nilly gonna gotta figure out when the best moment is you know second ulty catching up on e-fap just so put just uh so just popped in pooped in to say good job and keep the good work lads also if you ever want to burn the internet down you should critique undertale got extra letters so high rags oh hi critique undertale i never actually played it did you i have not i just apparently it's very beloved and it's great amazing people love that shit uh rags have you heard of the chinese battle of su yang 30 000 civilians were eaten the oh fuck yeah the chinese will eat anything what they ate them okay okay why haven't i not heard of that before sounds like something that everyone would probably talk about all right um try out the new terminator game yet no i still haven't even though a lot of people did talk about it maybe i could stream that at some point um lots lots of things up in the air right now in terms of lots of things to do also i'm not playing a game just because i figure that it's probably not worth starting one right now when um we've got we might be able to get to the super chat's end within half an hour ish at least for this episode um i did not realize that bojack was supposed to be a comedy until you guys mentioned it on e-fat probably says more about me than the show but still yeah most people don't remember it as a comedy um even though a shit ton of time is devoted to comedy and not drama uh fringy was slowly realizing that as we were watching it use uh it's not quite as he remembered moeller is henry cavill fnt one hour 50 minutes huh oh in friday night tights at one hour 50 minutes they someone said something about this i'm i'm not him by the way i'm not superman are they on right now it would make sense since it's friday night oh yeah it is friday night friday night tights uh oh he's not live right now i can't see him oh did we did we start before them and have kept going after they're done that might have happened oh maybe our e-faps are what some people consider to be long um i don't know if you knew about this one half oh sorry i had said i got into an argument with my friend about this and i'm petty so party a is claiming that minor and mild are on the same level party b is claiming that minor is lesser than mild e.g a minor inconvenience is less than a mild one hmm i think i'd probably agree with that colloquially on the second one i if you tell me something is minor versus mild i think i consider mild to be more significant than minor what are you are you rage um i'm kind of lost about what just everything right now oh are you like big tired to some no um oh yeah but what what was the question um well let me let me ask you it in in the way that kind of answers it so i if you found out something bad has happened and i came to you and said something minor has happened or something mild has happened which one do you think i'm telling you which one of those where do they rank on a scale of badness something mild has happened um i think if you said yeah if you said mild has happened i'd be confused because that's odd terminology to use um so i don't even know how i would rank mild uh minor i'd i'd rank that pretty low though yeah i was a minor that happened minor and major like two opposites of a scale while mild sits somewhere between if it was on a one to ten scale mild is like three four while minor is like one two yeah there is my answer like something minor it would be like an inconvenience while mild is like you chose that word so it means to me that it's not ease might not be easily solvable there might be something to it that's a little more annoying than usual but than a small thing like slightly versus bailey yeah i think slightly is worse than bailey bailey is like hardly anything right yeah um just letting everyone know uh with a vpn set to ukraine and ignoble in cognito mode you can buy bg3 or other games on gog for 30 dollars interesting hmm started reading berserk for the first time really good horror action manga anyone read or watched it uh no i'm not familiar with it it it's pretty cool and it gets kind of fucking nuts in the finale it involves demons and shit at one point i think i remember correct um the ccp should minecraft themselves for the world's benefit also you guys should read berserk and my hero academia is garbage finally hail rags oh hail yeah i got all kinds of uh all kinds of references to anime all over the place you just never know with our audience or i guess you do kind of know rags i always appreciate your rlm references even if no one else ever seems to notice them i mean oh i don't i usually catch them because i've seen all of red light media's catalog so but yeah uh they're like the only channel that i've pretty much watched everything that they've done yeah they're just they're funny yeah they're funny extremely entertaining and i rewatch their stuff constantly uh watching you fail at this game is starting to hurt when you use the homing attack you have to aim it at the enemy hold a to get more time and move forward in the air to get more distance yep i know all of that fucking doesn't work all the time you even would have seen it um there were several times where i would home on to an enemy and then sonic would like struggle and fall over instead of bouncing so i feel like that last battle really subbed it up whatever i go on like a jump pad an egg bad like whoops back into me because he's getting pulled back because he's too far in front and it just like hits me and then counters me and i just die it's just like yay i am tired here's money thank you very much uh bob hasn't been banned because leftists don't get banned even if they docks harass people or threaten to commit violence if you lean any further right than anti for you get banned for almost anything like i said it's weird that he hasn't been banned even if yeah some lefties get banned uh here and there i'm just yeah they gotta try hard though i feel like he's he's he's done what he needed to do it's weird i feel the 75% deserved corroda thing i feel like that's enough but uh what do i know uh bob hasn't been banned because twitter is the florida of the internet mola will you check out stargate it's pretty tizmy but fun um possibly someday i've got i've got it's not really high on my list right now of new shit to go over money to support my best friends mola and rag can't wait for us to hang out later oh no oh my goodness i think that's a reference oh no you are my capitalist friends oh no you guys have a played jade empire it's koto with better gameplay old-school bio air they're very best i've heard it's very good but i have not played it i have not played it either slightly disagree with rags is dragon age take attributes are well tool tipped and you're encouraged to spec trees correctly for good abilities it's mostly idiot proof uh i can't think of a game that encourages you to not spec correctly um but the game's mechanics and how difficult some of the encounters are and how depending on which pathways you choose and in what order can substantially affect how difficult things can get like i i i definitely think that you can a reasonable gamer i think can still get stymied by that game and they have to sort of like learn it um but i i i enjoy its difficulty i think that's one of its strong points um is that it's something to learn but i i think that it is it is easy to kind of almost soft unlock yourself in a in a sense um have you seen the godfather if so thoughts uh it makes sense to consider one of the greatest movies of all time it's like excellent execution pretty awesome an interesting story but um i never cared about it that much it's a weird sort of anomaly and it happens every once in a while where i'm just um i'm appreciating the craft but it's just not getting to me on the emotionalisms unfortunately have you seen it rex no i have not seen the godfather no i'm assuming you know about the memes about the third one being terrible uh no i i'm i'm not actually aware of that oh another one of them trilogies people always reference the third in a trilogy is bad and godfather is one of the one of the primary references but then lord the ring smashed it all because the third one is cool half life 2 has a mod called m mod which enhances the guns and makes the combat challenging by improving the ai it makes a 16 year old game extremely fun um yeah i mean that would that'd be pretty good to check out if you guys want to play half life 2 again but maybe uh it insists upon itself it's one of the one of the better family guy jokes that holds that whole bit it's good shit congrats moley you finally did it you absolute massive i think that's in reference to me beating the sanic game you did it yay rip eddie van halen um so funny thing about that that was said in um in like well i read that out in one of the i think it was the amnesia stream and um i thought it was just like some kind of random comment i didn't actually realize no he died yeah i did yeah i never registered that answer yeah yeah sucks um i noticed yeah i noticed uh that when we got that comment the first time you took it pretty well so i thought it was just like a weird comment for some reason my brain didn't even think it was like a possibility i don't know why um but yeah i saw her on twitter and i was like oh shit he actually died oh that makes sense now um i guess with this sort of thing you usually expect there to be like lots of messages about it instead of just like one we get weird ones sometimes okay all right that's my that's yeah like we like wilfred brimley passing away ascending is gonna be way more of a big deal than you know eddie van halen exactly um um outstanding and brave decision mohler i agree efap one six six is perfect to cover plinkets reviews oh because of order 66 what do we do for the first efap 66 was that the tross you think that was the rise of skywalker what could be called it order 66 yeah fucking hell uh let me double check oh yeah because it was around christmas time it would have been almost we're coming up to a year ago one at 116 would be the equivalent right for you efap 66 yeah efap order 66 full breakdown review of star wars episode nine the rise of skywalker that is sitting at 607 000 views yeah people like that one what it was like was it eight man seven man that was um we've got j shad uh metal fringy drinker you and i die young that was uh because i can't super chat on pc here's my hot take char char is not a bad character and could have been good if left to develop i'm assuming they were frank jar jar um i feel like any character could be good you know and i i agree with j give us the reins we will try and make jar jar into a character you actually want to see we take the challenge uh we are with you molar and rags go ahead and cover plinket reviews in one six six brave of you boys hey man maybe one day maybe one day we'll have a look at plinket review okay theo are you watching the storm that is approaching is britain getting a storm rags i'm glad that people grew up with minecraft fans if story driven game intensifies heart attacks um i'll just i'll just post it to you i'm not sure how to know like i i get it i just like those aren't they're not at odds with each other what minecraft like i know it's a little bit cliche but minecraft really is a do your own thing kind of game um it really is just it's imagination just crack really um but you can still play story in the story driven games you know could it ever went away so as i could hit libya good character it didn't mean morally good i just meant well written well i was also they said hit her i don't know maybe they're referring to someone else maybe the jews really were up to something maybe they were demons from the underground oh my goodness hi john you would have been happy to say hi don't let the haters get your you son go ahead and do what you want the most cover plinket reviews on one six six this is all from the same person by the way they really want us to give a plinket review wow uh maybe i'm not against the idea yeah one day the hedgehog mass grave is growing true all those bodies that fell off all those different areas they're all collecting up like that flash gets video ragu Fallout 76 has more interesting skills maps better you can play each faction full out four maps boring skills bad faction missions overlap i'm usually gonna play each faction in 76 hello i guess so the skills are more interesting in 76 no i think skills are one of the biggest weaknesses in that game i think i think that's a really poorly done mechanic like there's just it's one of those things where there's you it's technically choice but there's just obviously some best choices for it that could be quite potent um yeah i don't agree i'd much rather play Fallout four than Fallout 76 i mean Fallout 76 is just fundamentally just broken on so many levels it's got horrible gunplay and it's it's awful like the servers in Fallout 76 would be so bad enemies would just instantly regenerate faster than you could kill them with a mini gun like it could be it could be horrendous yeah i just i only ever watched a video so i wasn't gonna touch Fallout 76 you'd have to throw me into a four 76 themed hell i guess a genie will grant you three wishes but first you must travel back in time and survive fighting in a war which war and role would you pick and why uh i would uh cold war i would want to fly with the raf in the battle of britain so if i get to choose my role and the war i'm gonna basically find out which is the most likely i'll survive because i i guess surviving would be incredibly important if i get to grant three wishes which is going to change the world forever yeah like me being alive is the most important thing yeah assuming that cold war meme answer isn't it gonna be like the what was that the falcons war or something like that yeah some some super short war um or a non-combat position in a war um i would say uh yeah i don't know probably like that um see just second uh let's see let's see uh i don't know i'm trying to think like i'm sure there's some some very very safe wars that happened yeah that's i mean my answer is a little bit of a cop out but i would just look for that basically whatever it is yeah essentially yeah um the emu wall does that count yeah let's see uh war with lowest casualty count um to do yeah i'm kind of just yeah i i just to sit just i i don't know any off the top of my head but i would it'd be like a i'd be uh i don't know like a mechanic or something like that or a radio operator i would be some non-combat position to ensure that i survive to ensure that i get to get the three wishes because i have to survive because three wishes you can do some crazy good with three wishes yeah absolutely uh who's the best character in the simpsons there is a correct answer it's groundskeeper willie um i mean my favorite's probably homo it's a it's an answer but it's just so much bloody fun um but i do like willie that's that's a good answer to willie will there's no such thing as scotch tober fest yeah yo just be scared uh mold body oh wait i read that already wait it's the second vision of it all right mold bodies for the hedgehog grape um boulders gate is good recommend the originals oh we've never played them are they good so i'm sort of why not the vietnam war rags because like i think i can come up with safer answers than that yeah like i want to be really sure i pick something good because i gotta survive to get these three wishes because the amount of goods you could do with three wishes is insane i mean it would be stuff like um i'd probably have my first wish would probably be like uh a like clean renewable efficient energy source you know an absurdly efficient perfectly clean 100 green renewable energy source that everyone has access to the problem with is the first thought i would have is like what's the ultimate version it's like for everybody to indefinitely exist in a state of pure bliss or something and um with that at that point maybe the genie would be like you're not allowed to do stuff like that or would it be one of those monkey poor things it's like oh sure but you're all in the matrix yeah yeah um for me i'd um yeah it'd be like i i didn't i didn't share that the energy source for all mankind um i'd probably uh like intergalactic travel i would wish for um and then something like um like a cure to disease and stuff of that nature um but i would i would want to set us up because because like if because you want to set yourself up for like you want to think long term you want to set humanity up so that we could you know get to other galaxies and get to other planets and spread across the galaxy and survive in that way so that all of our you know eggs aren't in one basket here on earth and things of that nature because like one of the things was yeah like if all you do is um like people live really really long no one dies from diseases and stuff like that then you could get problems with overpopulation and things of that nature which would still probably be worth it but i would still want to set up a system that would allow going forward us to like expand and get out there and basically ensure that we could do things that i'm not sure we could actually do because i think it's more likely that we get around to curing a lot of diseases almost if not all diseases i'm more confident of that than us getting like to be able to travel to other galaxies you know so i would want to take care of those things that are potentially impossible can i can i highlight something yeah um i turn on my phone because i had a notification sometimes it just throws random comments from videos on my on my front page and this started with it amazes me that molla missed and i was like all right that's enough for me to be curious and i hit it and it goes molla missed three payoffs in one scene and chalks it up to lazy writing literally butcher revealed where he was staying because he was taking her there he revealed that before she told him she wasn't going because she realized there's no intention of taking his sum with him um well it wasn't my whole point that butcher clunkily saying exactly where his hideout is was really bad to do in that place it has nothing to do with whether or not he's taking her there yeah so why he would reveal that is like in the way he did it i feel like sometimes people just don't want to engage with what i say like a good faith just like what what it's like it's got nothing to do with my point so bye um if i've a lad in animated and a lad in live action hmm are there songs in both the original and the new one because the songs gave desk bullshit a fucking nightmare to deal with for copyright and i think they are in both versions it's possible though i feel like uh watching the only way i'm going to ever watch the disney remakes is if we're doing it for you fat movies because my god save it for the boy stream i know more to play the warhammer game space marine i want you to i want to watch you converse with the vile green skin as you should understand them hail imperial doggo hail and um yeah space marine is a fun game i really like space marine you should play it that'd be fun what do you think about if having a lad in the two versions um i haven't seen the new one i don't know anything about it it's probably shit though i'm assuming this they're suggesting it because of mulan went well i mean i'm fine with it myself but yeah i'm fine with that hmm uh if you want also women what is this if you want women really good hot takes get razor fist on he's very interested in the show but says he hasn't been reached out to i tried to find an email for him and it didn't work um but if he said he's interested yeah i'm pretty sure he's i'm not sure i can PM him on twitter either maybe parlor um maybe well he has twitter right tell him to if someone can has in any way got his attention tell him to DM me if he's if he's if he's interested oh we'll set someone up for sure Atlanta gun guy here hi rags please introduce mohler to 40k law i'd like to see mohler react to it also what is your favorite faction and why um so i don't know that much about 40k i know some stuff i have a casual understanding of some things um for favorite faction i don't know enough about him i really like the aesthetics of the towel though the way that their armor and their battle suits look i i think that they look really really nifty and really interesting um so i i'd probably go with them in terms of aesthetics uh probably they're up there with you know the imperium of man they got some cool stuff going on there as well but um yeah don't don't have really an investment in any of them or a huge interest but i do find 40k interesting um what i do know and what i do read um and vermin tide is one of my favorite games and i've played that quite a bit so that's a nifty foray into the lore of the end time stuff also the um because i was curious if they did actually stream today they did Friday night tides um in their title it says uh henry cavill is is not in the lead in which or two interesting yeah don't know what's going on there um oh they had literature double on too satan making the rounds ignore the women part of my last chat autocorrect oh i was gonna say it was it was it was hard uh hot take from the audience i don't know if it's hard but the witcher tv series is ducking shit characters are stupid and the will building is stupid another story is broken to oh and the story is broken too uh we never watched that did we which show uh the witcher show yeah we haven't um by the way with it yeah he's henry cavill is returning as garyl so is he not in the lead don't know where they got that it looks like uh yeah well so in the same sense that um what they said about mandalorian right that he's gonna slowly not be the main character or some shit like i wonder i don't know what they mean by not the lead in which are two exactly or says the witcher i'm assuming that means which is season two yeah um i don't know it's just the title is interesting um there's a lot of stuff talking about will mark hamill play his vezemir which i think would be interesting i think you'd make a really good vezemir top 10 favorite waifu's theo well again just couldn't answer that question oh apparently they have casted kim bug uh kim bodnia uh i don't recognize that name neither but no rags do you think you're clever with that wordplay because you are good boy rags oh thank you babu frick same voice actor as h p's moaning myrtle yep it's uh also the girl with the face in the slab of concrete that we talked about from doctor who so much has happened over efap so much uh rags fuck mary kill a cat from cats green goblin from spider man musical and genie from live action Aladdin all right give those options one more time i'm gonna post them in there for you all right excellent all right spider man musical uh let me just paste that into google that's oddly specific wow that is very specific um let me get you a picture uh so uh before i even read the second ones uh kill cats from cats uh mary green goblin and fuck genie there you go being married to the green goblin will be weird but at least he's on your team right i mean he's rich isn't he i think so he has powers yeah he's rich he's heading up a big mega corporation he clearly cares about his family yeah he'd make good he'd make good uh husband of material i bet you know how much he sacrificed like it's it's pretty crazy in legends the jedi and sith did have families a civil war within the jedi caused the no family clause it was about 200 years before the clone was all right i just joined the stream why is sonic heroes playing and no one is mentioning it am i having a stroke um sonic heroes happened we don't we don't talk about sonic heroes this might be the efab where i finally step longer than you massive in case i don't manage to catch the end of this i just want to say hi rags oh hello starles i'm getting quite tired by the way so very soon got like four or five left before we managed to square off this let's do it starles tech is not stagnated just to star was fighters clone arc 170 is precursor to the z 95 which preceded the x wing clone v wing is precursor to the y wing republic cruises a clear precursors to star destroyers so when i said stagnation it's like the progress and efficiency and new developments in technology um coming up with different fighters that do essentially the same thing in terms of their roles and their capabilities that's that's still a stagnation in technology it's the same but different um so like something eventually becoming another thing when they do the same things is yeah that falls under the category that i'm talking about um and i'd have to know they're i and i don't know which one's better um so i i don't like i'd have to know whether they're good or not um i mean i i i don't know enough about the the capabilities of them they seem to fulfill the same roles uh so that seems to be a lateral move because you know especially when it comes to military technology in weapon design like everything's a trade-off so um you know things things are built for purpose and there's trade-offs in size and speed and maneuverability and armor and weapons and all that sort of stuff so yeah i don't know so fighters couldn't they couldn't light speed in the prequels and they can in the sequels are you sure um like the Jedi starfighter has the little thingy it latches on to yeah but the idea that a fighter couldn't like it's not so big that you couldn't put one of those onto a fighter we will i feel him being attached to it could be the fighter right like that yeah enslaved one could hyperspace true so yeah that's not the case at all yeah i wouldn't be able to maybe not all of them can and it makes sense that not every ship could like some like it's like remember if you just want to stay within a system uh like a local system of planets or if you just want to stay around the planet then a lot of ships will just be made for that going from continent to continent in you know within the same planet which is definitely you know a thing that still happens you know i'm fine with having the hot take on the civil war comic fuck the comics the film is superior but don't mind having the comics remade again with all the heroes so it would be an actual big war so they're like slave one is a patrol boat it's different it's like that's shut up rags patrol boat uh but yeah um i they might do a civil war too and maybe we'll have a whole big tism and and we can finally have all the heroes defeat captain marvel uh thought i should super chat since 104 is my favorite number that's a fair reason to thank you very much uh code gears is a mecha anime disguised as a political drama the fact that people got confused about this means the show did its job fair enough like i said i i assumed it would be considered a mecha anime with the amount of fucking mechs in it pumpkin pie must have cool whip whip cream on top what do you think rags that's good stuff yeah that's very good um i think onward might make an interesting efat movies you'll get to see how bad pixar have fallen oh by the way that the arc 170s they did have hyperdrives so oh my god you using using wukapedia against them yeah oh my god if they're gonna if they're gonna pull this oh it's it's it's it's uh what they say it's uh it's it's not a fighter it's a patrol boat then yeah i can wukapedia this shit he's using it against you chat run like i i totally believe that not a lot of fighters need to like a lot of them probably didn't have it because they don't need to if you have a fighter ship it's supposed to it's probably going to be a like it it's it's going to be attached to larger ships like it's going to complement a series of capital ships or corvette ships or it's going to work as a um a guard detail it doesn't need to be able to have hyperdrive um it's going to be docked until it's needed um and not all fighters have the same roles either like the arc 170 170 is a you know designed to have long range attack capabilities which is why it has a hyperdrive and another ship might not because it's not supposed to have long range like like remember what i just said about how especially in military technology everything is a trade-off with the roles things are built for and the the the pros and cons of all the stuff that you have to have on it to make that happen now so it's like yeah three man fighter it's like yeah it's literally called the arc 170 star fighters you think having three people in it magically makes it not a fighter also isn't this place for two in a tie fighter yeah yeah and the new ones yeah i think in the old i thought in the originals the tie fighters were a single person in there i were tie bombers i could believe those had at least oh yeah tie bombs must have space well maybe let me check uh tie bomber i'm not sure though but it makes sense um do to do why people say no it's just tie bombers had a crew of one so yeah interesting you'd think that yeah they'd have two but i guess not um but yeah that's that's it we managed to get through them and things about time that i eat something i'm getting them hunger hunger signals my brain is like hey put something in there otherwise you're gonna fall over and i was like all right jeez but uh yeah that that's the the complete coverage of patrick willams he has once again made it back into the efap law he's an interesting man he has interesting opinions and uh i'm i'm glad we explored it efap 105 will return more than likely saturday of next week unless something is to come up and it's going to be about the boys season two we're gonna go through the whole thing with fringold and metal and possibly someone else depending on how things go um and the the video i'm thinking of working on is actually on the boys season two because i feel like there's a shit ton of amount that's wrong with that season we're gonna go through it on that efap and uh if things are going the way i want to i would i would i would like to and i've um made a lot of progress with the last of us two it'll just it'll be paused much like many other things are all in script form is is where each of these projects are landing um but uh i've been sufficiently annoyed with the boys and uh when when going through pieces and bits and bobs of it and collecting up all my notes i'm tempted to make a video that is uh just just gonna summarize all my issues and possibly go through it a little chronologically who knows um but as per usual we're continuous and so does the the things happening for efap we're recording something tomorrow or rather well it's my today it's rags tomorrow for another two hour 20 minutes i think uh yeah that's correct it'll be tomorrow in 19 minutes and yeah more things are on the way and we've got more efap gaming horror related stuff to happen and the 20th is when amnesia is coming out so uh lots of things to get excited for thank you all for um hanging out with us it's been fun thanks to the guests um the the catch up for efap 103 uh like i said rags and i will try and find a spot to do that with other than that is there anything else mr brack you you know that about covers it for me too i'm uh i am all set all right then uh thanks for for uh for for for hanging out like i said and we'll see you next time folks goodnight bye bye everybody see you soon