 I think he said that him and Dom on had done and got mad at him because of the Word it was a church or something it was something that he had he had said you know me and Bishop You know we had our little ups and downs you know one time I said sudden slick in the magazine I said man, you know, I ain't with that church shit This what he said Like I said earlier My mother father was preachers, right? Church CH you are see it. That's church. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one Yeah, we gonna talk man. I want to get back to like like y'all early on I remember Pippin Ken told stories about seeing magic done one when he was young and then having a you know Him being out of Milwaukee. Just just how did that whole thing use from your side? How did that even come to be? Okay? Check this out He came in Now Kenny under me now, okay, I'm the church in my church He's a great friend of mine. Well, he always hey man I want to come to the play ball because we did pimps up a hole down and I got a lot of brothers in there Okay, you know and I put that thing together and Kenny got a big check out of it I think I got a big check and Bishop got a big check but all the mother buzzers didn't get it done So when he came in and man, we're gonna be down mom. We're gonna be done bitch. You don't I say hold up player Now I'm gonna walk y'all in but y'all got to pay me Wow, so him and one his friends today Him just divine big Lonnie. You probably know Yeah, I think they just he just he just got over 200 million dollars out of some rapper something But he doing good money. Yeah, it's my man he was a One guy was real on Lonnie was real slick and sharp And bump your bro for you know it. He was real quiet because they thought he was a jab but Lonnie a bumpy chicken two seconds and so Invited them to the player ball. That's all your brothers have a seat I'm gonna get the bishop out. So we was on 87. They missed the G's player thing. We have Bishop behind the the wall and They got a chance to meet Bishop signing his books buying his books and everything I think that was the best thing that ever happened to the Milwaukee boys Snooke in all of them. They was marshmallows when they come down my game His players right now. No, they couldn't step up to us. We love you. No minister Well, Kenny actually came two or three years man. I was like hold up. Yeah Yeah, he came in he came in but he still had to go through Bishop That's right when he came in Kenny was good what he did he good Kenny was cold But some kind of way he fell off his horse and got out of sight. See a lot of time people get out of Get out of sight and follow on their horses. They can do good or do bad But he he stayed back and just did his thing. What are you doing now? Put the guns down what I do put the gun Start stop the killing with Kenny doing nothing. He's doing some some good At the hip-hop He's doing a lot of great stuff for the community like I'm doing put the guns down stop the killing He feeding a lot of people right now. He got a lot of rappels behind him. He's doing a great job Man, you know, why did you meet? Sorry? How did you meet Kenny Ivy? Kenny, um, was it that night? Well, you're gonna do something down one No, no So happen When we do play-up balls, a lot of the newcomers they stay in the back See my I'm always got my eyes open looking for that dollar She bit your bank on talking on him. He ain't gonna answer no phone. I said man, why you got a phone? You're never answered you can call them on the time. He don't answer the phone So they can get through me. So I talked to the brother. That's okay. I'm a fight y'all not y'all get a chance to talk to him So man, that's what it came in. They start coming in and snook at him They came in there with all that girls got the head done Which that's something we don't deal with in our game when guys mess with babies and stuff like that We we don't know nothing about all that because the game you got to respect the game in order to get respect but when they start the gas I mess with the keys and now we don't know nothing about that and Put a bad room on us cuz we don't live like that You got to be old enough to come around this organization. If not, we're not letting you in No, I get that man. I can't say it I think he said that him and down one had done and got mad at him because of the word it was a church or something It was something that he had he had see you know me and Bishop, you know, we had our little ups and downs You know one time I said something slick in the magazine. I said man, you know, I ain't with that church shit Damn, I was doing it because it was some shit that was going on And you know, I guess, you know, the things want to be the pretty bird should be like, you know, like a soldier Yeah, I was a leader So I didn't want to you know, I didn't want to follow the rules But you know, I said some crazy shit the Bishop says some crazy shit in the sister assistant magazine So finally if you go on YouTube, you see what he came to my house Yeah, I invited him to my house him and the porn star pinky to do Richie Rich They all came to my you know my little baby matching Kenny red, you know, so we sitting there I got him food. I had a feast for him and shit. And then we got on there. So yeah, man, you know, hey, man You know, I gave him like some money. I don't know two hundred dollars a size. Yeah, baby I gave this is some money man. I paid the church man. I'm with the church man. I fuck with the church You know, it's like, yeah, that's all you Don't talk about the church, you know, so I'm like, man, I love the church You know, I said, I love the biggest doubt that his right hand man, Reverend Seymour became my partner You know, I'm saying he came to my daddy's funeral. And so it just we just all came to get was weird man How like, you know, it was confusing because you know me being peeping can and being the law mouth young dude and Bishop being the Layback player, you know, I'm saying it was kind of they thought it was conflict But it really wasn't you know, so I love Bishop and Bishop and Seymour. They put me in the game This what he said Like I said earlier My mother and father was preachers, right? Church CHU RCH. That's church now Church is CHU CHU. I designed the name. I designed the word. I made the name up What's the meaning of the word the meaning of it is When a group of people get together if you listen to the OJ say family reunion When a group of people get together longest positive and we're having a great time a good time No cussing no fighting That's what means church That's what it means when a group of people get together and we'll agree on the same thing That's called church having a party having church and my grandma used to say y'all kids going and get ready for church She ain't said church. She was old-fashioned Such that's why I got it from church. Okay, so what did Kenny say? Kenny said Man, they playing with the with the church. They're playing with the Lord. No, we won because it wasn't he wasn't church He would think it was church, but it's church and I explained to them all y'all see a lot of people don't know what I Guess they know what church me and they didn't know what church me like I said I have a pattern and I know what it is because I created it. So there's something I created the majority of all the rappers shouted in a Versus or what singing but Bishop dawn magic one the Snoop Dogg I elevated and took it to another level So that's what it is Wow that and that's and that's something else because when you think about just the way everybody used that word the way Everybody use y'all terminologies. How did that? How did you guys feel when everybody started in the hip-hop game with carrying those cups? And they was carrying them cups on every video acting as if they was It's like See that's the point Debbie the glass lady she created the glasses she been around us by 12 13 years You know out of 48 years and me and Bishop and We've been doing major things and all over the world But they still had to come through him the bling bling all the jury you see All the rappers talking about bling bling and jury and pretty cars It came from him man came from here. Yeah, cuz he exploded and let her know. Hey man For the hip-hop thing. He did the Dundella. Mm-hmm. You know, he he kept it off Because man uses man this this man used to come down the suite with his car Yeah, the big old rose was big old white walls on it him And that means in my rose watch with my nephew candy, man He made it way for a lot of brothers to rise flick a lot of guys want to be on the take a man We wanted I wanted to be a superstar, but he was one of the number one pimps You know, I don't see a lot of pimps In the game for the last 48 years. I've known him. He's still He's still dressing every day Like I say, okay, no man hit, but I'm just telling you him. Yeah, he will suit every day Even now he will suit every day and stay sharp and ride a slick green and gold every day I got his jury done and got his jury on bling bling hip-hop for all the hip-hop the rappers that came through us When uh, too short. Yeah. Yeah, we gave on it too. Too short came to Chicago at night like 83 82 Scarface there. Yeah, we remember all them boys, man We remember all them boys. Oh, okay We remember when they came here they came scratch they came here under us We didn't go to them they came to us man That's my friend. They came through us Boss talk one-on-one one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna