 Okay. The recording is on. Welcome back, everybody, to our second hour on the end times. We are going to take up the questions that people have first before we move forward. All right. I don't know who let me just see you who raised the hands first. All right. Christopher Kumar Affine, please in that order, please ask your questions. Yes. Thank you, pastor. I have two questions. The first one is about those who are sleeping in Christ. So people who have already passed away. And as I understand, when they pass away, they are, if they are believers, they spirit would have already gone, gone to heaven. And that is there. So I just wanted to understand why they then become part of the rapture when they are already in heaven. So yeah, just for that, please. So the answer would be for them to receive their glorified bodies, because they're in heaven. There's inner person spirit and soul is in heaven. But they don't have the bodies because bodies have been left behind or not. So in the rapture, they receive glorified bodies just like those of us who are on earth receive in an instant our glorified bodies. Thank you. And the second question is just really about that. That sort of pivotal question about when the rapture happens. Is there any event or any sign that has still to happen before the rapture could actually take place? Is there something publicly that has been mentioned that an event or whatever has to happen before the rapture actually takes place? So in the next chapter, we will list out, so after we finish this detailed look at the sequence of events, we will look at the signs of the times. We will list out all the signs that are given to us in the Bible, which will happen, you know, which, which, which must happen before the coming of the Lord. And when we go through it, you will see that almost all of them either have been fulfilled or are being or are happening now. And so if you ask me, is there anything still pending? The ones that we would, the things that we can think of one years, the gospel being preached to all the nations. So like, I think we had a discussion maybe last week or a week before we said, you know, yes, the gospel has been preached to all the nations, but it's now reaching, you know, it's like the last mile, you know, when we talk about the internet and the internet, like last mile, they want to reach the people, the rural areas. Similarly, here, we're talking about the last mile reaching people in the, in the remote parts of the world who never had the gospel. That's one. The second is the state of the church. Jesus is coming back for a glorious church. Part of that happening, when so you're looking at Ephesians four, we're referring to Ephesians four and Ephesians five. And the church has to come to the full measure of the stature of Christ. And he's coming for a glorious church. Now, when you look at where the church is compared to where it was 500 years ago, when the Reformation, you know, starting with Martin Lutheran 1500s, the church has come a long way in coming to its place of maturity. But there's still, you know, that come us coming together to the unity of the faith, the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a mature man, unto the full measure of the stature of Christ, because Christ is coming back for a glorious church. So that is another thing that's, you know, that that is actually happening right now. The church is being brought to that place. But that perfection has to, you know, that has to happen. And perhaps the other thing would be the alignment of the 10 kings or 10 leaders. And the one leader who's going to emerge as the Antichrist. So part of Daniel's prophecy for the coming of the Antichrist is that from the regions that were part of the former Roman Empire, and they're mixing with other nations. So which, you know, for us, when we look at it, you know, when you look at it, when we look at things globally, there are three major global combination of nations. There is the European Union, there is the NATO, there is the G7. But of all these European Union seems to fit really well with what Daniel spoke about, because he spoke about nations coming from the former Roman Empire. So that, you know, we could almost say that has to be what we are seeing happen in and around Europe through the European Union. But what he said was, there'll be 10 leaders coming. And then another one will arise. And he said, in the times of these leaders, God himself will set up his kingdom. So that's, we're looking at that. So basically the stage is set for the emergence of these 10 leaders. And then the little horn that Daniel spoke about, who would overpower three of them. And that little horn is basically the Antichrist. So the stage is set to be very close. But the emergence of those 10 leaders and the emergence of the one, that's kind of, you know, where we are. So to answer your question, you know, we are very close. We'll go through all the signs. We're very close. But these are the things, you know, if you say, okay, look, these things are, you know, the stage has been set. But those are the things that need to kind of fall together. I hope I answered your question, but we'll go to the list of things and you can see. Okay. All right. Yes, thanks. Okay. I think who's next? Let me just look at this list here. Okay. Sri Kumar and then Avni, please. Thank you, Pastor. Pastor, I want to know, I have a few questions. I want to know that when the church would be taken away. And as we know that, like as we even in the last week also, we discussed one thing that Jews will be saved and, you know, other believers will come. So when the church will be raptured, so now we know that we are the church, so we are the body of Christ. So how, like, what they will be called? Are they will be called the body of Christ or the church? Or they will be known as some other name because the church is already taken raptured or taken by God. So in that case, those believers, like 1400 Jews or sorry, one like that number of Jews and other believers, new believers who are going to come. So how they will be, what they will be known as or how they will be, what they will be considered as, they considered as a church or what. That's my first question. And my second question is, like yesterday we were discussing on the judgment part. So we, as you said that as you, like, the judgment will be, is going to be happen based on the gospel. So in that case, the Bible says that the law is already broken and Jesus has through Jesus, it is abolished now. So there is a, and in that case, the Jews who are believing now only on the law and they are not believing on Jesus. So how the God was going to judge them because now that old law is broken and the new law is came. So in that case, if they are not believing on Jesus, so will the God is going to judge based on the law of Moses or God is going to condemn them or how it is going to happen. And is there any, my third question is, is there any possibility that the believers can be left behind? And if in that case, what preparation we should pick? And one request is, can you please explain me once again the last trumpet? Thank you, Pastor. Thank you. Sorry, what is the last? Explain. Last trumpet. About the last trumpet. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay, you have to remind me these three questions. Let me, let me start with the first one. What was your first question? That should be taken away. How the church and the believers will be known as what then? Oh, okay. Yeah. So your first question was after the church is taken away, those who believe in Jesus, yeah, they will still be called believers. They will be called saints. They will be called the elect. So these are terms used in Revelation, Revelation 12, you know, it's talking about, I'll give you the exact question. So these are people who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. So this is Revelation 12, 17. He's talking about those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ. It's going after, so the Satan's going after them. So they will be called believers. They are part of the church because remember, at the end of the day, the church is made up of all people who believe in Jesus Christ, to be washed in the blood. And the Bible refers to the church also as the one new man, Ephesians chapter two. So whether, so he says, you know, that he has made Jews and Gentiles into one new man, this is Ephesians two, which is verse 15, right? So he has abolished the law, abolished everything. And through the Jews and Gentiles, he's made us one new man. So everyone, you know, believer, everyone who believes in Jesus Christ, regardless of their background, they're all part of this one new man, the one new man is the church. It's the body of believers, some of them are on earth, some of them are in heaven. That's okay. And same thing will happen in tribulation, you know, and this we refer to them as tribulation saints. That means there are people who became believers, but they became believers during the tribulation. And in fact, during the tribulation, there will be many who will turn to the Lord. There will be many who harden themselves against God. But we will see as we journey through revelation that there will be many who turn to the Lord. But it's very difficult. They will, most of them will die. They'll be killed because of their faith. Okay. Okay. Second question was, sorry. The law is broken. When the law is broken, then how the God is going to judge the Jews? Oh, okay. So the law is broken. Now, yeah. So everybody, even the Jews will be judged on what they did with Jesus Christ. Now, remember, the entire Old Testament is pointing to Jesus. You know, before the Gospels and Epistles were written, the early church was preaching the Gospel from the Old Testament. You know, so they were actually preaching the Gospel from the Old Testament. So until about AD, you know, so for the first, I would say, let me think now, AD 60. So for the first 20 to 25 years of preaching, they didn't have any written, like the Gospels were not written. The Epistles were not written. So where were they preaching from? They were preaching the Gospel based on Genesis to Malachi. They were preaching the Gospel. And in fact, you know, if you read and look 24, Jesus went through the Old Testament, pointing at all the scriptures that were speaking about himself. Paul, the Epistles are basically an explanation of the Old Testament saying, look, because the Old Testament is pointing about Jesus. So the Jews who essentially are reading the Old Testament, Jesus is there throughout the Old Testament. And so everybody, Jew and Gentile, will be judged according to the Gospel of Christ. Did you believe in the Messiah? And Zechariah chapter 12, you know, it's a very powerful touch. I would say very touching verse. Zechariah 12, I think it's verse 10. Let me just go there. It's talking about, you know, how the Jews will feel, they will feel when they see the one whom they have pierced, right? They will Zechariah 12 and verse, Zechariah 12. Yeah, verse 10. You know, so it's talking about the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Jews during the tribulation, during the end of times. He says, you know, I will pour out on the house of David and half a Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and supplication, then they will look on me whom they have pierced. Yes, they will moan for him as one who moans for his only son and grieve for him as one grieves from the first one. So it's talking about, you know, the Jews, they're going to see Jesus. And they're going to look at the one whom they have pierced and say, hey, the very person that we crucified and we rejected, he's coming as king of kings. You know, so they're going to see and they're going to mourn. So they're going to be held responsible for the Gospel and for what they did with Jesus Christ. Okay, they're going to be judged by that. And your last question was? The second last is, is there any possibility of the every belief, can believers be left behind? And in that case, then what preparation we have to do? And the last question was, can you repeat, can you explain me once again, last trumpet here? Thank you. Okay. Yeah, so when we say, can a believer be left behind, the answer is no, right? If a person is saved, they're going to go up. Now, the only issue would be is a person who has come to faith in Christ as a believer, but in some way has drawn back from their faith in Christ. Then, so this kind of basically brings us to the other big question, can a believer lose his salvation? And so if you ask me, I know there are different positions, but if you ask me, yeah, there are plenty of scriptures in the New Testament that tell us that a believer can lose his salvation. So that is the issue, right? A person comes to faith in Christ, but then he turns away. Like Hebrews 10 says, if any man draws back, he goes away, or Hebrews 6, or Peter talks about like a dog going back to its own vomit and so on. So if a believer is like that in that state, that means he's denied, he once believed, but he's denied, he's gone away from the faith. That only he knows, and God knows this arch. Some cases we may know, some cases we may not know. Of course, at that moment, they're not believers. So they will not be taken. So who's taken in the rapture? Those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, those are saved. But could it be possible that those who once were saved have then denied their faith? Yeah. And they've gone away from faith in Christ, and they will not be taken up. So what must we do to prepare? And I think John summarizes it very well. First John chapter 3, verse 1 and 2. It says, you know, we hope what man of love the Father has given to us, and you know, he said this is the hope we have, and therefore says, therefore, everyone who has this hope purifies himself, even as he is pure. Right? So he says, look, we have this hope. So what do we do? We live in line with our faith. So that's the answer. You know, we should be living the word of God. We should walk in the light that God has given to us and not walk in darkness. Yeah. I tried to answer that in a very quick way. And your fourth question was about the trumpet. Okay. Yeah. So what we were explaining was in these two passages in 1 Corinthians chapter 4, and in 1 Corinthians 15, the trumpet is mentioned. Right? So in 1 Corinthians 4 it says, the Lord will descend with a shout of the archangel and with a trumpet of God. So when Christ descends, when Christ, you know, is like, okay, he's leaving heaven. There's a trumpet sound. Then we also saw in 1 Corinthians 15 that the trumpet sounds and the dead in Christ are raised. Right? This is 1 Corinthians 15. But then we also know that in the book of Revelation, that trumpet is sounding many times. But so in the book of Revelation, basically, during the tribulation, there are three sets of judgment, and one set of judgment has seven trumpets in it. And so what some people try to connect is when 1 Corinthians 15 says the last trumpet, they connect it to the last of the seven trumpets in the tribulation period. And therefore they say that the rapture will take place at that time, the last trumpet. But what we said was, basically, the seven trumpets, or all of the three sets of judgments, the seals, trumpets, and the bowls, they're all judgments being poured out on the earth, or in some cases, it's just silence in heaven. But it all has to do with judgment. The wrath being poured out. And so this rapture is taking away of the believers. It's not a judgment. And therefore we cannot connect the trumpet sounding when Christ is coming and the dead and being raised with the seven trumpets, the last of the seven trumpets, which are judgments. So we cannot connect the two. These are separate things. And we said also that the trumpet is used in many different ways in scripture. But when you look at the Old Testament, primarily is one is to announce the ushering in the presence of God, and two is the gathering together of people. That's how the trumpet is used. And that differently is what is being expressed in 1 Thessalonians 4 and 1 Corinthians 15. So the first trumpet is Christ coming out of heaven, second trumpet is dead being raised, or the last trumpet dead being raised. And then we meet the Lord in the air. And we continued in 1 Thessalonians 5, but the emphasis is on God has appointed us to obtain salvation and not go through wrath, but to be with the Lord forever. Is that okay? I hope I explained it. Yeah, thank you. And Avani, your question, please. Thank you, Pastor. My question is from 1 Thessalonians, the passage we read from 13 to 18. In the 14th verse, it is written, God will bring with him those who sleep in Jesus. So he's bringing them down. And in the 16th verse, it's written at the end, and the dead in Christ will rise first. So I just want to understand, he will bring them down and they will rise first. So is it that they will get their bodies? So the inner person, the spirit person is with the Lord. Their bodies have been left somewhere on the earth or just a minute. It's all basically disintegrated. So the spirit is coming with the Lord, but God is going to give them their glorified bodies. And they're going to unite. So their rising means their bodies are being raised up from the earth. But actually there's nothing there. It's all gone. But the fact is their spirit is coming with the Lord and they're going to receive their resurrected bodies along with us. Our bodies are changed and we're all going to meet. So it all happens in an instant. They receive their glorified bodies. We also receive our glorified bodies. In our case, I mean that is if we are alive at that time, in our case it's a change from mortal to mortality. Our bodies are suddenly transformed. In their case, it's as though their bodies are coming out of the grave and wrapping around their spirit persons. Pastor, when you said in our case means if we are alive on the earth during that time. Now my question is like when Jesus came back with the glorified body in three different scenarios, we see that they were not able to immediately recognize him. If we see in the case from the road to Emmaus, he kept talking, but they were not able to recognize even the disciples early morning when Jesus met them. And he talked to Peter even that time they did not recognize. So is the glorified body looking different than the physical body? And because of that the people were not able to recognize the glorified body, Jesus in the glorified body? The answer is no. The reason they couldn't recognize is because they had assumed he was dead and buried. So imagine, I'm just saying imagine, right? Suppose I had a very close friend and I had attended this funeral two days ago. Then, you know, I'm going about and I see somebody like him. I am not going to think he's the same person who was his back because I saw his burial the other day. I'm going to think, okay, this is somebody who's like him. I'm not going to think it is him. That's one thing, right? It's just our own thing. So the two men on walking down the road to Emmaus, Jesus walking and they are feeling sad. Jesus is dead. So they're not expecting Jesus to be there. So they were thinking, okay, maybe he has another Jew. Maybe he looks like Jesus until their eyes are opened. So when he went to the house, their eyes were open. Now, a realization again, this is Jesus. So why didn't they recognize? And of course, when they were on the boat ship, you know, on the thing, they could have been fearful and so on. So in those cases, I think it is more of their eyes not being open or they're not, you're assuming somebody's dead and you've seen the funeral in their burial. So you're not expecting them to be back. So that would be the case. But our spirit bodies are recognizable. How do we know it? One is on the mount of transfiguration. And also it's recognizable because there's a spirit sense of knowing. That means, you know, 1 John 3, 2 says, we will know even as we are known. So 1 Corinthians 13, we will know even as we are known. That means there is an unknowing that is beyond our learning. So Peter, James and John were on the mount of transfiguration. Peter, James and John have never seen Moses and Elijah. And those days, they didn't have photographs. You know, so they couldn't have said, Hey, this is Moses photograph. This is Elijah's photograph. They never see. But on the mount of transfiguration, they saw Jesus. Of course, they they've been with Jesus. So they would, they saw Jesus in a glorified state. But they also saw Moses and Elijah. Now they've never seen Jesus. I mean, sorry, they've never seen Moses and Elijah. But how do they recognize? And they could have thought it was some other world. It could have been David, it could have been Solomon, it could be anyone. But they knew Moses, Elijah, how God revealing, God showing, right? So, so in that sense, there is recognition happening. That means, when we see people in heaven, we will be able to recognize, we will know this is Paul, the apostle, this is John, the beloved, this is, you know, all the people and even our own loved ones who've gone on to be in heaven, we will recognize them. Now, will the spiritual spirit body look exactly like the physical body? I don't know. All we know is we are recognizable. We will know who is who. But in what expression that spirit body is, we don't know. Thank you. Thank you, Master. All right. I see two more questions in the chat. I'll be shake. According to Revelation 7, 9 to 14 months, it's a combination type of throne during the Great Tribulation. One of the people and there will be another option. So who are these people? These people are people who have died in the tribulation. So we call them as tribulation saints. They've died, they've been killed, they've been martyred. And the reason we know that is because it happens a few times during through the book of Revelation where these saints appear before the throne of God. And we know it says to us very clearly that they have died or the name of the Lord. Right? So in Revelation 7, when they look at the multitudes and they say, who are these people and they worshiping God and they, let me see here, they've come out of the Great Tribulation. I think at one point it tells us that they have been killed for the name of the Lord. And at least we need to find that verse. This is, okay. So I'm one example. I'm just picking Revelation 14-13, a blessed other dead who died in the Lord from now on. So there are people who die in the Lord and we see them several times standing before the throne of God and worshipping God. So the answer is, these are not people who have been raptured, but these are people who have been killed and who are before the throne of God. And I think it also says, you know, God will avenge the blood of his saints. So by reading all of those passages, we can say, you know, that these are people who have died and God will avenge their being killed during the Tribulation. I'm just trying to look up where those verses are, but maybe I can point it out to you as we journey through Revelation. So we will go through Revelation and I will point it out at that time. Okay. But then you have an earth comes after the millennium reign of Christ on the earth. I'm finding it hard to reconcile Christ with an earth. Lawless natural problems, a deforestation, climate change, like Rana, there is some kind of regeneration even before the Neuva. Yeah. So the scriptures indicate that the very nature of things during the millennium would change, right? So Revelation 20, Revelation 20 tells us very clearly that he will reign for a thousand years. Revelation 20 verse 6, he will reign for a thousand years and Revelation 20 verse 7 where the thousand years have expired and Satan is released and then comes, you know, the great by throne judgment and, and you haven't something you had. But what would life be like during the tribulation, not the tribulation during this millennium? Isaiah 65 kind of draws us or pains for us a picture of life in the millennium. And I'm just pointing out verse 20 to 25. Isaiah 65, 20 to 25, it says, you know, an infant will live out the full days, a child will die a hundred years old, people will build houses, they'll plant vineyards, they will not build another inhabit. Now then he says, you know, people will not labor and burn, they'll not bring forth to trouble. And he says the wolf verse 25, the wolf and the lamb will lie together, the lion and the lion shall eat straw like the ox, dust shall be the serpent's food, and they will not hurt nor destroy all my holy mountains. So this seems to be a transformation, the nature of things. How much to what extent we don't know, but this passage seems to be indicating there's a change in things. Okay. So that's what we would say or Divya's question. When will the tribulation saints receive their glorified bodies? So that will be Revelation 20 and verse 7. So what we find is at the end of the tribulation, there's going to be another resurrection. So when people are raised, so when Christ comes, and so you can look at that in Revelation 20 verse 6, they will be raised up. And so you can actually read from verse 4. He says, I saw the souls of those who had been Revelation 20 verse 4. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness for Jesus Christ. Now they didn't worship the beast, they didn't receive the mark. It says they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. That means these people who died in the tribulation were resurrected and they received their bodies, their glorified bodies. So verse 5 talks about them being resurrected five and six, and they will reign with Christ for a thousand years. So there will be another resurrection there after the seven years of tribulation. So Isaiah 65, so but we will come to that passage in Isaiah 65. What we will, so Beth's question is, isn't Isaiah 65 talking about New Heavens in the New World? So this is where we will explain that in Isaiah 6, when I will explain this in detail when we when we talk about the millennium, but Isaiah 65 verses 17 to 19 is talking about New Heavens in the New Earth. Isaiah 65, 20 to 25 is talking about the millennium. You say, how can you differentiate that? Because in Isaiah 65, 20 to 25 it's talking about people dying, whereas in the New Heavens in the New Earth nobody is going to die. Right? So obviously Isaiah 65, 20 to 25 cannot apply to the New Heavens in the New Earth because it says no one is going to die in the New Heavens in the New Earth. And there is no indication that people are going to be building and so on. So therefore we break that whole passage Isaiah 65, 17 to 19 as referring to New Heavens in the New Earth, 20 to 25 as referring to the millennium. I'll explain it when we come to that period of time. Okay. All right. So we've got a few more minutes here and just we'll take a few steps forward. Everybody is with me. If anybody got lost somewhere, you're still in the rapture or you're still in the church age and everybody's together so far. We're going to keep moving in time. Okay. If you get lost somewhere or get stuck somewhere, please let us know. We've got a journey through time together. Okay. Feel free to ask your questions. Okay. All right. So we're not going to go to heaven. Okay. Thanks for your messages in the chat. So we've finished the rapture. We're in Heaven. So what's going to happen during these seven years in Heaven? We've listed out, you know, all these things are going to happen. We're going to be with the Lord in glory. So try to imagine you're going to see the Lord in glory, you know, and it's how and how this is going to be. It's just beyond our minds to understand. But we're going to be there. John says we will see him as he is. So they're going to stand before the throne. We're going to be in that throne room of Revelation 4 and 5. You and I are going to be there in Revelation 4 and 5, you know, before that throne. And of course, we're going to be living in our glorified bodies. We already said that. We will know as we are known. That means there is going to be, it's almost like, let's say, on earth, we are learning little, little, little about God, you know. But at that moment, there's going to be this recognition of who God is. Whoa. It's almost like, I know God is infinite, but it says we will know as we are known. And then again, how do we put that in words? But we're going to know God for the greatness, for his greatness and so on and now. There's going to be this recognition of who he is. We're going to be welcomed in our mansions. Jesus said, you know, in my father's house, in many mansions, I go to prepare a place for you. I will go and prepare a place for you. I will come again and receive you unto myself that where I am, there you may be also. So he has to fulfill that. So, you know, he has to take us and put us in our mansions in heaven. That's what this is. Another reason why we are saying, when we meet the Lord, even though 1st Thessalonians 4 doesn't clearly say where we're going to go, Jesus has to fulfill John 14. I will receive you to myself that where I am, there you may be also, where in those mansions. So there has to be a time when the believers are taken into their mansions in heaven. So that has to be fulfilled. John 14, 1-3. Another important thing is this judgment seat. All right. Now I'll give you a Greek word. Many people refer to this as the Bema judgment. So if somebody says, you know, you studied about the Bema judgment, they're just referring to this judgment, the judgment of the believers. So the judgment of the believers or the Bema judgment B E M A is different from the great white throne judgment, which happens in Revelation 20. The great white throne judgment is for the unsaved. The Bema judgment or the judgment seat of Christ is for the believers. Okay, that's just a technical term. They're just using the Greek word for it. But that's all, one is a judgment for believers. One is a judgment for the unsaved. The judgment for believers is not to decide whether you get into heaven or not, but it is to decide the rewards for your labor. And I think, you know, let's just read two passages of scripture, 2 Corinthians 5, 10, and also 1 Corinthians 3, 13 to 15. So we understand about Bema judgment or the judgment of the believers. Could somebody read 2 Corinthians 5, 10, please. Shall I read first? Yes. So we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ that each one may receive the things done in the body according to what he has done, whether good or bad. Okay. So 2 Corinthians 5, 10, that word judgment seat, Paul used the Greek word Bema. He was just borrowing the term in those days when they had the judgment in the civil court. So every city would have their place where people would come to resolve their disputes and those kinds of things. So he used that word. That's why it's called Bema judgment. And so here he's talking about, you know, we must appear before the judgment seat of Christ. So we, believers, right? We are appearing, but for what? We're going to receive reward for what we did in our body, good or bad. Now, how will this judgment happen? 1 Corinthians 7 to 3 gives us the details. So let's go to 1 Corinthians 3, 13 to 15, please. 1 Corinthians 3, let's actually read verse 12 to 15, please. 12 to 15, I should correct that. 1 Corinthians 3, 12 to 15. Shall I read? Yes, please. Now, if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one's work will become clear. So the day will declare it because it will be revealed by fire and the fire will test each one's work of what sort it is. If anyone's work which she has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burnt, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved yet so as through fire. So this judgment is different from what we read in Revelation 20. In Revelation 20, the books are opened. Your name is checked. Is your name in the book of life or not? And if your name is not in the book of life, you're cast into the lake of fire. Here, it's the judgment of the believers. What does the judgment look like? We're going to stand before the judgment seat of Christ, but it's not a judgment for condemnation. It's a judgment for what we have done in our body while we were here on earth. What did we do? So it says, your work will, what you've built on the foundation, verse 12, the foundation is Jesus Christ. What did you build on that foundation? So you're saved, you have the foundation. What did you build on it? If you built it with gold, silver, precious stones, symbolic of what's divine, what comes from God, or did you build it with wood hay and stubble, symbolic of things of the earth? And there are things that are fleshly. So fire will test it, right? Each once day it will be revealed by fire and fire will test our work, whether it's something that was from God or whether it's something that was fleshly burned because flesh and blood cannot, the things of the flesh will not inherit God's kingdom. That's burnt. And then it says, you will receive verse 14, you will receive whatever stands the test of fire, right? That means whatever was done as from God, gold, silver, precious stones, that will stand the test of fire, you'll receive reward for it. Whatever was done in the flesh, wood hay stubble, it's going to be burnt. And verse 15, he says, if anyone's work is burned, he's going to suffer loss, he's not going to get a reward, but he himself will be saved, right? So he will be saved. So this testing of our works is more of, okay, what did you do the things that God wanted you to do? And you get a reward for that. So this is the judgment of the believers, which will happen during those seven years in heaven. Okay, because you cannot position it anywhere else. You don't see it anywhere else. And we will also explain why, because we will see that in Revelation 4 and 5, as we journey through Revelation, Revelation 4 and 5, we see believers with their rewards, their crowns, okay? So our work will be tested and then you'll receive your reward. What is your reward? Your crown, right? Your crown and there are different kinds of crowns that God will give, right? So we engage in worship with kings, with redeemed, and there will be Tribulation martyrs, Revelation 6 and Revelation 7, who come before the throne of God. Let me just look up Revelation 6, maybe I can answer. I'll be 6 questions, Revelation 6, 9, 2, 11. Yeah, yeah. So I'll be 6, just to go back to your question. In Revelation 6, verse 9, and again in verse 11, it tells us that these people were killed. They had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. So there are people right there, you know, between Tribulation, they're being killed for the word of God. So Revelation 6, 9 and 11, okay? So Tribulation saints are being killed. They're showing up before the throne of God. And we will also participate in the marriage of the Lamb. So very quickly, what are going to be the rewards? New Testament talks about many different kinds of crowns, and there's a crown of righteousness, there's an imperishable crown, there's a crown of rejoicing, crown of life, crown of glory. Now these are just language that is used in the New Testament, and we just, you know, I've listed out these scriptures. But the point is, you know, God is going to crown us with rewards. I don't know exactly, you know, what are these crowns made of and all of that, but he's going to give us these rewards for our faithful service. You know, he says, when the chief shepherd said, you will receive crown of glory that does not fade away. So they're talking the Bible is talking about crowns. Some way God is going to honor, God is going to reward us for the works we did for the kingdom, right? And Jesus says, I'm coming quickly, hold fast what you have no meat, so that no man may take your crown. So these are rewards given to believers in heaven, right? So our time is up, but we're going to answer that big question. Why do we believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church? So we're going to start from here next week. We're going to go to six main reasons, but within the six main reasons are sub-reasons as well, on why we believe that the rapture of the church will take place before the start of the tribulation. So we'll pick it up from there. But so far, you're all with me. Everybody has attended the crowning ceremony. It's all there. Okay. Good. All right, some questions. Okay, let's start answering them before we go. Elisha, how do you determine a believer has abandoned his faith? Hebrews chapter 6, Hebrews chapter 10 would be some passages. There's again other passages in festivity and so on. So if you look at Hebrews 6, it tells us that these people have basically turned away from the word of God, from the Holy Spirit. They are putting to shame the blood of Jesus Christ and the name of Christ. Hebrews 10 talks about people who have turned back. So those are some things there. But what I would say is we should leave that to the Lord, because God only knows their heart. Now, there may be some obvious things that we see outside and what we see people here saying and do, which we can compare to Hebrews 6, Hebrews 10, and other scriptures. They are against the faith. But we leave that to the Lord, and our goal is always to try and get people back into the faith in case they've gone away and, you know, denied the faith. Okay. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Avni, is Peter also talking about the mercy of judgment in 1 Peter 4, 17 to 19? Let me, I can't remember that, just offhand. Well, 1 Peter chapter 4. So in 1 Peter 4, 17. So he's here, he's talking, he's not talking about verse 17. He says, for the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God. And if it begins with us, what would be the end of those who obey not the gospel? The verse 17. So here he's not talking about, you know, a judgment that's taking place in heaven. He's talking about more of God dealing with the church and then with the world. So it's something that's happening here, present here and now that God is going to, you know, God is looking at what's happening in the church and he is judging things in the church right now, sifting out whatever is impure and so on. So God is doing that in the church right now. That's 1 Peter 4, 17. It's not the same as, you know, the Bema judgment. But God is doing that now. And then if God deals with us like this, then what would be the end of those who do not obey the gospel? Okay. And so that's the context there. Christopher. If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer a loss. So this person's just not get rewardable. The person gets something negative. So he just won't. So Christopher, to answer your question, when a person's work is burned, 1 Corinthians 3, he just doesn't get a reward. There's nothing negative, right? Because heaven, God has welcomed us. We are all saved. We are sons and daughters. Just that. So I don't think there's going, it's going to be a negative experience. I think it's going to be a positive experience. So even if somebody stands there and they see all the work burned, I don't think they're going to be crying for the next two weeks. I think it's going to be a very positive thing just that Paul has described it like that for us in language that he knows. But the way it's going to happen in heaven, I'm sure it's just like God is going to welcome you and say, Hey, well done, good and faithful servant. And I'm sure that every believer will be get some reward because you know, even if you've done a hundred things, I'm sure that out of the hundred things, even if there have been a few things that have been fleshly, I'm sure that there are definitely things that are off the spirit. So God will commend us for that, you know, and welcome us. So I don't think it's going to be a negative experience. All the Paul has described it in that sense. But the point is, we have to be careful to do the things God wants us to do and not things on our own. Okay. Last question. Say please. So yes, sir. Pastor, just in light again of the award of the crowns. I'm just wondering, those who don't receive a crown, are we saying that is there instance in the Bible that gives us the idea that those with the crown will rule over nations and cities in the new earth? And then those without crowns, what will be their role in that new earth? Would there be a disparity between those who have crowns and those who do not have crowns? Okay. So what we can infer. So I'm using the word infer meaning it's not necessarily certain, but you know, when you look at Matthew 25 and Luke 19, and just give us the parable of the talents. And especially in Luke 19. So in Matthew 25, he says, Well done, thou good and faithful servant entered into the joy of the Lord. You've been faithful over little things. I will set you over many things. That's Matthew 25. But in Luke 19, he tells us something different. He says, You've been faithful over little things. I will set you over many cities. That's in Luke 19. That's interesting to look at. So you say, when is when is when is a person going to be set over cities? Well, the only time is during the thousand year reign of Christ, the millennial reign. Why? Because first Corinthians chapter six and also Daniel chapter seven tells us that the saints will inherit the kingdom and they will rule with Christ when during the thousand year reign of Christ and again, Revelation 20 verse six and seven, we will reign with Christ. So all these scriptures are telling us we're going to reign with Christ. We're going to help administer the kingdom. So Luke 19 then makes sense. The saints are going to be given authority over cities and that is going to be in proportion to your faithfulness on this side, on this life that we live. So from that passage, Luke 19, in connection with what I mentioned, Daniel seven first Corinthians six and Revelation 20 verse six and seven, we can infer that our faithfulness in this life is going to influence the authority we receive in administering Christ's kingdom during the millennium. But Luke 19 brings it out. Okay. Thank you very much, Pastor. Thank you. You're welcome. Okay. All right. So I hope everyone's here. Everyone's following. We will pause for today. We'll pick this up next week. We will start with answering the question. Why do we believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church? We'll start there. We'll go to the detailed explanation. Yeah. So please take some time to go to the notes while we are speaking. I may have jumped around here and there, but the notes hopefully will bring clarity and give you the references, scripture references as well. What I want to encourage all of us is to be rooted in the scripture. Don't worry too much about people's ideas and opinions. You look at the scripture and try to understand it for yourself and let it become very clear in your mind that, hey, this is very logical. Because sometimes, I'm not saying this in a very negative way, but sometimes I look up some books written by respected people. I'm saying, okay, look, but this is actually missing something that is so obvious in the scripture text. And then they're arriving at a very different conclusion. Whereas the scripture text is very clear. And so I want to challenge you to stay with the text of scripture rather than with somebody's what you see. As long as you see it in the scripture, you're convinced to be happy with that. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to close. May I request somebody to please close in prayer and then dismiss us. Please go ahead saying. Father, we bless you. Thank you for this time we have spent, Lord, learning from your word. We thank you, Lord, for your son who you have also used to instruct us in the book of revelation and all that will happen. Lord, at your appearing. Thank you for clarity. Thank you for the wisdom. Thank you for understanding. We pray, oh Lord, that as we await your appearing, Lord, we would wait looking forward to that day and all that we need to do, Lord, Father, to be in the right place, Lord, to be received by you when you appear. Father, give us the grace, Lord, to do them. We pray, Lord, that you will embrace us, Lord, to lead orders to you that they may not miss the day you come. And we pray that all that you have committed us to do here on earth. May we do it, Lord, to your pleasing. May we do it in the spirit that Lord, we will not miss our reward. We thank you, Father, as we go, Lord, we pray that each and every one of us you will keep us and you will protect us wherever we are and that you will bless everything we do today. Go with our pastor. Increase him in wisdom and reach him, oh God, on all sides. Thank you, everlasting Father, for in Jesus' name we have prayed. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, everyone. God bless you. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll see you again tomorrow. God bless you. Thank you.