 You don't want to recall it is there a two finger scroll that I can But I'm serious that's gotta be something I can do right on the track bet. Yeah on this laptop Yeah, you might have to go into the mouse settings. Okay. Well, let's check it out. Let's make this weird Okay Suddenly got crackly just out of nowhere. How about now? Say I still oh weird. That's a sudden crack Whatever you did to fix it before do it again. Okay. All right Yeah, I'm also gonna do well. You're fine now weirdly Yeah, Wi-Fi's on Got a very large house here They could be painting any part of it by 130 turns out paint the part right where I buy where I record So if you hear any weird noise, that's what it is. I Last night my I don't know. There's this house for sale That's on the other side of the alley. I mentioned to you All before that I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a tear down and so Hmm What was that? I don't know. I heard something weird. Was that you Roger? It was like a man's voice. Yeah, it was like it felt like a video starting to play and then stopping. Oh I wasn't got nothing. Well, whatever it was seems to be over. Anyway, yeah there's a there's a house for sale and the whole thing is just weird, but um Everything in my neighborhood is weird, but the other night it's like here's sort of like a Sounds like a sigh like a electrical son. It's like 10 p.m. You know, I look out the window like what is happening? And some guys are like sawing into the house with hard hats. I'm like, is there a fire? I mean, it's so loud. It's like I don't think they were Breaking and entering maybe there was just some reason that the lock didn't work or oh They're trying to break into the locker. I yeah, but I don't think they were trying to break into the Locksmiths helping out somebody who couldn't get in right. Yeah, I don't even think anyone's living in there right now It's the whole thing's confusing But it was the sort of thing where it was like well if it was during the show that would have sucked because it was really loud All right, you guys about ready 30 second 30 second warning 30 seconds to air Ladies and gentlemen satellite up like go What was that called the views? Well, you made the tech TV. Yeah, and we used to it's seen it too. Yeah Don't remember hmm You have to reserve it in 15 minute windows. All right, here we go three Daily Tech news show is powered by you to support the show directly and become a member go to Daily Tech news show comm support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday, September 12th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline and canine I'm Sarah Lane Salt Lake City still breathing your air, California. I'm Scott John's. You're not we're sending it to Salt Lake City I am Roger Chang and I'm not responsible because I stay home most of the day Well, I mean you're not blowing our air to Scott I'm blowing you kisses Scott Well, it is Apple announcement day and that means we're gonna go through all of the Apple announcements in a few minutes So hang on Apple fans. We'll get to that but let's start with a few other tech things you should know Today Uber unveiled a full rebrand Which the company says first began about nine months ago in order to make company branding more clear as Uber continues to expand Into new and different markets and of course partner with other companies as well Gone is the uber symbol that's been featured on its app icon for the past two years, which the company said actually confused customers Nintendo switch online will launch on September 18th. You guys that is right around the corner for $20 a year That's about four bucks a month or 799 for three months. You can save a little bit of cash, but it's on its way The United States FCC says it has paused its review of a potential merger of Sprint and T-Mobile to give it more time To analyze submissions on network expansion and expected benefits of the merger coming from both companies also T-Mobile wants to do some additional Economic modeling the 180-day review period will now hold at day 55 Mergers also being reviewed by the US Department of Justice Verizon communications confirmed today that guru Garoppin will place Tim Armstrong as the CEO of oath and report of Verizon CEO Hans Vestberg armstrong will remain at the company to guide management transition efforts and report to Verizon chairman Lowell McAdam In bummer news in my opinion Google's four-year-old experimental email app inbox will shut down in March Many of the features from inbox have already been added to Gmail and others are on their way I'm super bummed out about it because it's my favorite mobile email application, but all those features are in Gmail now So interface wise though, it's not the same. I see I see All right, let's talk a little bit more about what you can't do in Europe soon The European Parliament voted to approve an updated version of the copyright directive. We've talked about it before on the show It's the one they rejected back in July. This new approved version still includes articles 11 and 13 They'll often hear those referred to as the link tax and the upload filter The link tax says that if you are going to Significantly link to news organizations the news organizations have a right to charge you the upload filter says that any large Company that wants to do content uploading must filter and try to prevent anyway Not necessarily filter, but they have to prevent copyrighted works from being uploaded Article 11 now allows the sharing of just links if the link itself has the headline in the link You're not going to be punished anymore. So link sharing is okay It's just when you start doing excerpting that these rules might apply and article 13 the upload filter now only applies to sites that host significant amounts of content and Promote that content as well as carving out an exception for small businesses The directive is not in place yet. You'll see a lot of people very angry about this saying Europe has been ruined It's all over. It's not quite all over. There's a final vote coming in January So there's still a chance to profess objections to it And if it passes individual countries would then further refine how it's implemented in each of their countries So they have some latitude in interpreting it as it's in as it is Implemented say in Germany or Netherlands or Hungary, etc. I think the thing to wonder here though is why was it approved at all because pretty much everyone Tim Berners-Lee Jimmy Wales all of the folks Europeans and non-Europeans who are working on the internet said yeah, you need to fix copyright, but not like this Yeah I don't like the vagaries either the vagaries being things like sites that host significant amounts of content Well, hold did you read the actual EU directive? Are you just quoting what I wrote as I say I haven't read Okay, because it may be more specific right and it may be my point is that it's going to no matter what they do No matter how detailed they get about that information people are going to interpret that as Really broad and reaching and also not specific enough and even if that language is very specific People are going to find issues with it because it does seem to just bark in the face of a free and open internet in a way that I feel like we haven't seen for a while. This is Scott's opinion We'll see how it plays out and the fact that every country can implement it a little differently is a problem, too, right? I Mean to your point to your point Yeah, no, yeah, for sure I I mean, I don't I'm not about to say the walls are falling the walls are falling but I can see why Europeans are upset and I would be too if I were them even on just the face of it like you said There's there's details in the there's devils in the details. You got stuff happening before January This isn't being voted on right now like a lot could happen and some of the freakout will happen And that sometimes changes things But I don't like it at all. It just feels as we saw with the GDPR Rules made in Europe sometimes have effects around the world just because it's easier for a company to implement once everywhere than to try to go region by region Testers of the Windows 10 October 2018 update have noticed a dialogue box launches when installing Chrome or Firefox That says you already have Microsoft Edge the safer faster browser for Windows 10. Those pop-ups can be turned off in settings. Oh Man the why this is the old Microsoft This is not the new kinder gentler Microsoft of such an Adela that we're seeing this feels like the old Bill Gates Steve Ballmer Microsoft Where you do do whatever you can to try to knock out the competition? Well, but I mean, it's not like Microsoft is the only Apple every so often is trying to get me to to use Safari as my default browser I I feel like we've been doing this a long time and and and Firefox does it too where they say like hey We notice Chrome is your default browser. Would you like to change the Firefox? I've seen that but that's different than doing it at the operating system level where Windows like hey We know we own most of the marketplace out there. So before you even get that Browser installed. We're gonna ask you if you really want to be doing that I feel like that's a little different in Microsoft or in Apple's case like today You can't watch the keynote on anything but Apple stuff and Safari is a good example of that So you can watch it on edge on you could also watch it on Twitter Yeah, you can watch it on lots of stuff But my point is if you're gonna watch on our browser in your desktop and you run it in Chrome It says sorry not supported turns out. It's only gonna happen in Safari So there's an example of them kind of nudging people in a direct sure This is so overt where they say you already have Microsoft Edge the safer faster browser for Windows 10 Implies that they are literally the safer faster browser. Both of those things could be argued Yes, at the very least Or or outright refuted in like it at all Samsung opened its largest mobile store in Bangalore on Tuesday. How you like that? It's pretty good. The 3,000 square meter store will include mobile devices Other consumer electronics and service center that they'll have there comes two months after Samsung opened It's biggest smartphone plant in New Delhi. So big inroads in India Yeah, India, of course one of the top three markets for smartphones and depending on how you look at it possibly the top market for smartphones certainly for growth right now as China as a market starts to mature and Samsung is not waiting around you hear about Apple sort of Toying around with the restrictions on parts being made in India And they're gonna have a factory and they're trying to get some easements so they can open some Apple retail stores Samsung just went and and build a factory and now they're opening their biggest store I mean, that's a statement to say like we are putting everything we can into the Indian market It's also Bangalore, which I it's in an area that is is a big tech hub But it specifically if you're not familiar with it sort of in the southern part of the country and yeah lot lot lot of tech companies a lot of you know many many of the The the companies that you know and love have outpost there And so it makes a lot of sense that this would be the right location to expand into India specifically You know and here's the thing. This is a total side note, but Indy Bangalore or Bangalore is called the Silicon Valley of India Which shouldn't they have some cool like silicon curry or I don't know Something more appropriate like, you know, we have the Silicon Hills and the Silicon Alley and Silicon Beach. Yeah, right apparently Yeah The Silicon Valley of India. Yeah, okay. Well Sounds like a challenge Let's let somebody come up with something better and then we'll we'll try to see if it catches on Particularly those of you who live in India make already know maybe you're like, oh, no There's already a there's already a good one, you know Send it to us feedback at daily tech news show dot com and also if anybody gets to this store 3,000 square meters and that's huge send us some pictures. Love to see Looks like in there, you know Educational hardware company little bits announced three new kits available in time for the new school year in the United States the $10 base inventor kit includes 10 bits that can be used to create all kinds of things If you if you don't know little bits The whole point is they want to encourage kids to mix and match and try stuff But some of the examples that you can make with the base kit are a voice controlled robotic hand a smart lamp an intruder Alarm keep your siblings out of your room. I guess there's also the hundred dollar Electronic music inventor kit that has eight bits and same sort of deal you can make lots of different things But there's a keytar base, which is a keyboard guitar if you've never seen jazz Or a drum kit you could actually turn it into a drum kit as well as many other things and then there's the $130 space rover inventor kit that one has 15 bits 30 activities and is centered around an app-controlled Planetary rover to kind of pretend like you're on Mars or the moon or something. I love this It's another example of stuff. I wish was around when I was a kid I'd go straight for that 130 deal if if people can swing it Because that seems like probably the best bang for the buck. I think the other two sound great and all but there's something about Making your own version of a rover type vehicle that is gonna make every 10 year old kids head explode. It sounds amazing I mean I am all right. Yeah, I guess get them off. You can good point I mean if you could afford it obviously 330 bucks. It's not nothing. It seems to be like this stuff's popping lately. You got Nintendo with their weird Initiative with cardboard Yeah, other stuff like this popping up. I feel like we're gonna see more and more of it It's easier to put small computing devices in You know in kits that people can then assemble and make something really cool out of it Like this really is the erector set of a whole different generation and I I envy it. I think it's I think it's amazing This is another one I'd love to see some pictures at feedback at daily tech news show comm if anybody's got these or gets these new ones And it's created some projects. It'd be cool to see that for the price of a third of an iPhone You can get all three of the new kids Be the kids with the rover. Don't be the kid with the keytar. I'm just saying it's fun Don't don't throw shade on the kid with the keytar It's not about the kid with the keytar it's about the keytar. I hate that thing nothing wrong with a keytar Scott he's wrong. Send us your coolest keytar projects To feed back a daily technician I got all right folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines comm We're gonna talk about the Apple watch We're gonna talk about the tennis and tennis max and we're gonna talk about the tennis match and the ten are and even the Home pod probably but let's start with the Apple watch series for it's got a larger display as we knew 35% and 32% larger for the the small is 35% larger the big is 32% larger screen now goes to the edge Almost it's got some nice curved corners. They also made a big deal about the fact that it's thinner So in total volume, it's actually smaller than the series three There are some new complications new watch face with Customizations a modular face which lets you put in third-party app things like you know sport scores or your boarding info for your plane The breathe app is now available as a watch face. You can raise it to your wrist to breathe I also have some cool dynamic watch faces a lot of the watch face stuff the big design change on the outside Visually that you'll recognize right away is the crown now has a red circle instead of being solid red The speaker is supposedly 50% louder and they move the mic to the opposite side of the speaker so that doesn't get in The way when you're talking over it Back is black ceramic in sapphire crystal, which is transparent to radio that should help improve LTE It's got a 64-bit dual core S4 chip a new GPU. They claim both have twice the performance of the series three extended range extended g-force on the gyroscope and the accelerometer and This one was interesting. It can identify falls. So if it tells you fallen, it'll wait to see if you move And give you the option to call 9-1-1 if it doesn't feel you've moved for a minute It will automatically call 9-1-1 and they made a big deal about new heart rate monitors They'll be monitoring now not just for fast heart rate, but low heart rate arrhythmia Irregularity and the electrocardiogram where you put a finger on the crown and then Tamp the face and the other sensors on the back of the watch and it can give you sort of a rough estimate of your electrocardiogram You can hand over that data to your doctor. They have FDA approval for the heart rates and the rhythm Not for the electrocardiogram. They didn't quite they sort of fudged that and made it sound like maybe they did But they don't Bluetooth 5 same battery life Silver gold gray and black or gold stainless and new Hermes and here's the important part starting prices of $399 the GPS $499 for cellular that's starting prices and the series 3 is now $295 available in 26 markets 16 markets for cellular and you can start ordering Friday this Friday And they'll be available September 21st and everybody who has a watch gets watch OS 5 on September 17 Yeah, it looked like a nice incremental upgrade to the device I think the bigger screen and that stuff is cool the thinness and the larger displays is cool The thing that I'm most excited about if I were to and I'm not really sure I'm in the market for a series 4 Given what they showed today. My 3 is gonna probably do just fine until whatever's next, but the wheel adding haptic feedback to the dot what's it called? Sorry, not the wheel the Brown, thank you. So watch terms throw me off complications and crowns. It is all very complicated Anyway, that thing right now is just a swimmy swimmy thing that you push and you don't really get any kind of feedback Other than visual. I love the idea of that having some haptic feedback Beyond that though. I don't know Probably it seems like a great thing if you're on a 2 and you're thinking I might upgrade every other This might be a good time to do it Yeah, somebody who's never had an Apple watch before and I just have a different watch that I wear And I've never had an Apple watch so I don't really know what I'm missing yet I Feel like maybe it's time the problem is it's very pricey because I'd like to get a new iPhone as well And I know we'll get to that in a second, but I don't think I would get an Apple watch that didn't have LTE enabled I I just I can see so many scenarios where that would become Annoying so that price is it is steep I have the LTE series 3. Yeah, and I don't really run into any issues where I feel like oh I'm so I'm so glad I have LTE right now like I think all right Yeah, maybe I'm convincing myself just because I'm so used to it, you know with with a smartphone that I would need it Yeah, like you said Scott. It sounds like a much more powerful version But with not that many new yeah, some things are Upgraded it's certainly faster battery life's the same for more bells and whistles the whole falling thing is I'm sure that's gonna come in real handy Fallen I can't get up jokes. I bet they were all over Twitter this morning But the first thing I thought was I fall all the time. I'm a clumsy person I'll be I'm just gonna be honest with you I don't want this thing constantly asking if I want to call 9-1-1 or mistakenly thinking I haven't moved and calling 9-1-1 for me I was a little nervous about that you're supposed to do you're supposed to fall you're supposed to say I've fallen and I can't afford Please do not call 9-1-1 Watch the cost me as much as a set legs I'll tell you what the heart rate stuff was compelling to me as someone who's getting a little older You know trying to watch my heart health. I had a weird EKG one time, you know within the past year So all that stuff was appealing to me I'm not sure if it's enough to make me upgrade yet But but I liked those features not everybody's gonna care about that though One side note about the LTE I also got the LTE series 3 and I never even activated it turns out it because my phones with me all the time I never I never use it Maybe I don't need it after all fine. I'll save some money We've got the 5.8 inch iPhone 10 s and the 6.5 inch iPhone 10 s max Both are OLED displays at 458 pixels per inch with IP68 waterproof That's two meters up to 30 minutes stainless steel with gold silver and gray finishes 60% increase in dynamic range over the iPhone 10. They kept talking about wider stereo sound You have to listen to see if you can tell faster face ID Although I don't think face ID is that slow, but it'll probably be a little snappier. That's nice The chip is the h12 the h12 bionic chip which is built on a 7 nanometer process six core CPU two high performance cores and four battery efficient cores There's a four core GPU. That's up to 50% faster and an eight core neural engine for the machine learning stuff And because the chip can handle more storage that you can get it up to 512 gigabytes now Core ML apparently runs nine times faster with a tenth the energy use and they showed a bunch of apps like elder scrolls blades Running on it. There's a 12 megapixel wide camera and 12 megapixel telecamera on the back New sensors in the wide cam f18 new true tone flash tele lens is f2.4 7 megapixel front cam f2.2 with a faster sensor new feature on the camera They talked a lot about the camera, but the new feature is smart HDR So zero shutter lag highlight detail shadow detail emerging the final photo to make the HDR look even better With some smarts some improved bokeh And the coolest thing I thought as far as the photos go slider in the edit that can alter the depth of field After you've taken the photo. That's kind of nifty it can record video with stereo sound It gets 30 minutes more battery than the iPhone 10 So not a lot the max gets an hour and a half more battery than the iPhone 10 can do gigabit LTE dual sim But dual sim with one physical card and one e-sim card although they have like geo and Verizon and I think Remember the European carrier I saw but they have a lot of carriers on there And they will have a two physical sim model for China where e-sim is not allowed the prices are high The 10s starts at $999 for the 64 gigabyte. You can also get more expensive ones at 256 and 512 the max starts at $1099 Pre-order start on Friday ship September 21st more locations getting at September 28th and The iPhone 7 is now $449 and the iPhone 8 $49 and we all any of us who have a compatible phone anyway get iOS 12 on September 17 Hmm Oh, yeah, it's funny. I'd I'd some some folks who should really listen to this show more often We're having meltdowns. Why are they calling at these that just are they're kidding max? Yeah, what what's going on with it apples gone crazy with naming? You know, I wanted to say like well, we've been complaining about those for two weeks But but but somehow it was and I know this isn't the point But some somehow it was weirder to have it all up on on the display behind all the executives at the keynote today The the the naming is starting to get complicated And I think I think if they just had the number 10, none of us would care It's the fact that they're using the X and they're not even using the X on OS 10 anymore That's causing all the people to freak out about it because it's just the 10th iPhone Sure, they always put an S on the off years Exactly and and I added an S to it again We've we've been used to that for for many iPhone cycles now I wish it just had the number 10 rather than I think it's telling that we're talking about that so much instead of the Phone because there really are only incremental upgrades here Yeah, if you have it if you're right now in then you are you are definitely looking at an increment I ended up with an 8 plus or whatever it is last time Because I wanted a bigger screen and now they're giving that to me So I am very interested in the 10 the tennis match Tennis match, I'm gonna call it from now on I think that looks real cool, and I'm interested in them also doing the monthly install thing So it's that price doesn't scare me so much I'm already paying whatever I'm paying a month and it'll be that plus 10 bucks or something So it's not too big of a deal from my perspective. It is pretty expensive for a phone But it is getting weird they do they went through this with iPads things got weird with brand names Just to go back to what you're saying for a second And then they tried to pull out of that again, and they had weird stuff like the new iPad iPad 3 well, where's the 4? No, no, there's no 4. It's the new iPad now It's the retina iPad now. There's a pro it's confusing and I don't know why they do that also the 10 thing I understand the single digit numbers when you go to a double digit There's a thing in graphic design and Apple's very big on them. Yeah, we'll go two digits or more it looks weird So you stick with a single? Numeral and or letter or character, and they've done that with the X again But it does put them right back where they were with OS 10. So it's weird I don't know why they ready for iPhone 10 cougar coming soon Maybe this is just one of these things where it's like, yeah, I would never say OS X It's just OS 10 in my mind and it has been for so long. It's it's it's not even a thought, right? The brain just converts. Maybe maybe I'm making too big a deal out of this But I think when you put an X next to an S You're just asking someone to say excess not tennis I think the short the short thing that I would add before we move on is The iPhone 10 is for someone who doesn't have a phone with face ID and really wants it or wants a bigger screen If they already have the iPhone 10 and they just have to spend the money to get the bigger screen But you know, it's not that big of an upgrade over the current iPhone 10 Which you can still buy at a cheaper price There's also the iPhone 10 are which is basically the iPhone 10 with an aluminum body It's a 6.1 inch edge-to-edge screen, but LCD and it doesn't have 3d touch But really that's kind of the only difference it has face ID tapped away It even has the a12 vionic chip. It only has one camera I guess that's the other difference 12 megapixel rear camera rather than dual and it's $749 for the 64 gig only available in 128 and 256 if you want to upgrade and pay more Yeah, it's the one you can pre-order it on October 19th shipping October 26 So it comes a little later too. Yeah, the seas are back Tom We we're back to the phone that's cheap not really though still expecting black blue coral and yellow So it's colorful like the sea too I don't know about any of those colors. I I think that I have a 7 plus I mean, I'm I'm quite behind and have been for for some time So I'm trying to figure out which is the right phone for me. I could just get the 10 I don't have the 10 so that would be new and exciting. I've never used face ID So the fact that that price has dropped. I think for for a lot of folks. Yeah, sure I want that 10 s max That's the one I want and I want the biggest one and I want the new gold color, but it's extremely expensive starting at 1099 I mean that means the 512 models what gonna be like 1399 And we got Mac OS Mojave coming on September 24th as well as updates to the home pod and TV OS is coming on September 17 Excellent Yeah, but a home pod you can go to stereo they talked about that's kind of cool I guess you want to buy another home pod? Oh, yeah And it's it's got the ability to have two timers at once and stuff like that. Yeah, it's fine But that's a very expensive thing by the way I just want to point out they're up there just talking about like it was a throwaway idea Oh, it's amazing two of these you should hear it I'm like, they're already 600 bucks a pop you want me to buy two of those There are sonos options and a million other options that are cheaper than that y'all are crazy on that one I will say before we move on I the depth of field being able to manipulate that after you take a photo What was the company that did that for the first time a few years ago? Was it lightro lightro had it in their camera tech Yeah, and at the time I remember I mean, wow, this is just gonna change the game And obviously I haven't tried this out on an iPhone, but the camera stuff just the camera stuff alone I do think is really cool. That's it. That's not the only camera My two cents it it just looks like a lot of post-processing done in the phone instead of in software that most No, it is that they they avowedly said that you say that as if it's a bad thing Well, it does because the bulk stuff they showed kind of looked mediocre like it was fine But for for for a phone, but like photography wise, it's just okay Really? See, I thought that they all looked great Maybe the photo nerds are out worse today, and I'm not kidding you. I've been a sale Goodness, we have an in-house photo nerd in Roger check. All right. I'll just No, no, no, no I'm saying that as a positive like because at least for myself my eyes are too dumb to tell the difference So we we we need somebody who could tell yeah, you're counting on that right like they want I don't mean that we're too dumb to tell but they they want to make it good enough that it's amazing It's coming out of a phone, but people running pro-level SLR craziness They know that it's different and that's good, and that's okay. I think that's great. Both things can exist in this world Well, we are very glad that our subreddit exists That's for darn sure you could submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit comm You can also hang out with us on Facebook get to know one another and talk about similar interest Facebook comm slash groups slash Daily tech news show let's check out the mail bag Let's do it. Um, this person did not leave their name. So I'm not going to add it here, but okay fine It's Paul. All right, Paul I hope that this is fine that we said it was to Paul in Michigan says at the ripe old age of 48 I found myself single we were talking about new tender options on the show yesterday Paul says I've been working my way through dating apps trying to figure out how things work these days Recently decided to give Tinder a try and allowed myself to get suckered into buying a gold subscription Paul says I'm getting the Tinder top picks for the last few weeks and ironically I find it pretty much useless as far as I can Tell all it does is monitor the people that you swipe on normally and then feeds you the popular people in your area That match your perceived prefs the end result is you just see a bunch of people who are already super popular and to be put Pluntly Probably out of your class. Well, don't sell yourself short. This might work better if you're young and hip But as an older more discerning user, I certainly don't want to pay extra to get more of these suggestions I'd like to see the match rate on the top picks in some ways. I feel pretty bait and switched Oh, well, yeah, that's that sucks. Well, and I think and I don't know if I really explained it that well yesterday because again, it's not as if dating apps have made People superficial where there was none of that before but but yeah, there's a lot of kind of yeah Popular folks and rating and the fact that Paul was like I see what's going on But they're not really using some cool data set that no It doesn't sound like they're curated for him either that they're just like pretty much everybody would get kind of the same stuff Because it's just the most popular people which right. It's no good. Yeah, it's almost like it's like a it's like a you know That's a Hall of Fame list these people were looked at more than other folks Makes guys like him think well, I have to I have to go to something like e harmony and that's depressing I mean no offense e harmony, but you know, I don't want to go there That is offensive D harmony just so you're okay You have a fine service, but what I'm saying is I don't think 48 is all that old first of all that's right around Tom and I's age, but also It just must I just don't like that feeling of like okay You've aged out of the hip thing and the hip thing happens It's be aimed directly at a at a very specific range of range of you know 18 to I don't know 28 year olds I have the e harmony theme song stuck in my head. I gotta go to e harmony and it just seems like a bummer I don't know it sounds like a great opportunity for an enterprising entrepreneur to create a dating app for People who are perhaps older. Well, that's e harmony, right? They like Something a little a little more Rakeish than okay. All right. I like that. Rakeish is a good word for that guy. Yeah, we'll call it tie-dye Well something we won't call tie-dye is God Johnson Unless you want us to sky Well, whatever you'd like to be called Let folks know what you've been up to since we saw you last week Well, ironically my I shut down my tie-dye YouTube channel. So that's not there anymore, but I'm really gonna miss it Everything else that I do is up there and out in the wild and you can find it all the frog pants calm And as always if you would like to engage with me on a personal one-to-one basis Why Twitter's a place to go. I'm at Scott Johnson and thanks for having me as always if you enjoy this show There is more of it We have an expanded version called good day internet where we talk about the life of people who like technology Not just the technology news and it's exclusively available to the patrons at patreon.com Dtns We love our patrons. We also love feedback our email address is feedback at daily tech news show at dot com We're live Monday through Friday join us live if you can chat and IRC. It's a good old time for 30 p.m Eastern 20 30 UTC and find out more at daily tech news show comm slash Back tomorrow with Justin Robert young talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants.com And how man we know how to do an Apple day, let me just tell you that I'm proud of us well, I am too and These days used to kill me at tech news today I mean, what's changed? Yeah, we're like here's how we're gonna compartmentalize Yeah, it's more like I know what to pay attention to during the announcement and what not to you know When they when they start bringing out the developers. I'm like, okay. I can relax and just watch Yeah I I I'm always I think Tim Cook was he was he was For Tim Cook, I thought his energy level was high. Mm-hmm There were sort of mixed results with some of the other presenters Of and I always chalk it up to oh, this person's just nervous. I don't care how smart you are Some sometimes public speaking is just terrifying, you know, and sure if that product manager had spoken before But it did kind of feel like she was like, oh, wow, there's a big round, you know, and I don't blame her I did is it make me nervous. Mm-hmm So gather round is just the rounder watches. I mean, that's really round To the campus cuz it's round I really never thought about it. Yeah, see that's like that's to gather right. I don't know or maybe it was just the I read into it thinking that it would be a round watch, but it's rounder than it was What about the fall of the Apple watch? Siri I fall and I can't get up. Oh, I look as a falling. Yeah, okay I Don't like I've fallen and I can't get up. That's so played out Microsoft wants to edge out Firefox and Chrome It's a little bulky. All right iPhone to the max. There's something to follow the Apple watch iPhone to the max. That's pretty good The fall of the Apple watch just I know It's clever, but it just sounds like we're saying the apple watch Yeah, and I don't I think quite the opposite is true the Apple watch, I think right hi So it'd be like the rise and fall of the Apple watch, but then that also still sounds like it ends up iPhone tennis match That idea but I like it As soon as you said that Scott that's all I could hear for the rest of the presentation To the point where I'm like, I feel like they're saying tennis Yeah, you can't not hear it run like it's about the guitar about how about tennis anyone Anyone for tennis anyone for that? There we go I like that only ten just the X X X S. Yeah, yeah It's a good one ten being like parentheses anyone for ten s Hey, yeah Commodalize the X and the S Sevens and eights if you can buy that new ten are I Don't get it. The price is you know, they're comparable. It'll cost you more than a tenor My head scratchy on that I Totally get the ten are the ten are is the five C like it's the exact same thing. Yeah, we took in fact It's even better because it's like we've got the same processor. We got the same everything We just didn't put dual camera on it We use cheaper materials in the body and there's no 3d touch for some reason we just let that sensor out But that there's no it's not plastic. It's aluminum, which is nice. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's all good I guess I just I don't I mean the whole thing about liquid retina display I'm like so LCD stands for liquid crystal. I okay, and it technically is a retina display. Okay, like that's just silly It's marketing Tom No, I know I've never heard of marketing What I'm trying to say is marketing is always silly this is over indexing the normal marketing So remember the big controversy that they had gobbled up too many Oled display is there was too expensive or Something and there was all this talk about whatever the future of the ten would be it would oh, right? Yeah, yeah, no, there was a there was a worry about the yields around OLED screens I remember that yeah, well that must have worked itself out I guess and it was going to it was just it was because they were ramping up production at LG and the other Screenmakers and and and the yields didn't rise as fast as they wanted right at the beginning, but now the yields are fine So you need to use a different kind of yield to get it to rise faster. Yeah yeast you're trying to make a yeast joke there I got it Yeah, it was good. That was valiant Bringing a little leaven tea I Just roll with it roll Stop trying to butter us up with your puns It's bad now Yeah, well, that's what happens when you watch 90 plus minutes of a thing that we were able to summarize in five minutes Yeah, I think we did good though didn't real good By this watch don't buy this watch buy this phone my my product I also for part of it was because of we're just sort of busy doing other stuff for for the show and and other things But I didn't follow any live blogs this morning and I usually I usually do because there's certain You know knee-jerk reactions that sometimes people have that I'm like, oh, yeah, it's actually a really good point But no, I I just watched the keynote as it might I always follow the verge And the reason I follow the verge is because Casey Newton makes the best jokes on the case Newton is a very funny person It's a very funny person has Casey Newton never been on DTS I don't know. I think he's been on TNT, but not DTS. Maybe yeah, definitely TNT We should have Casey Newton on DTS labs and I just asked him to make jokes for That would be fun. Please make tech joke He has to have something to riff off though. I think because his live blog jokes are always the best Tennis if we made the tennis anyone though That was that was DTS DTS DTS Right there in our own name Maybe we should change the name to D tennis D tennis. Oh Yeah, we know tennis is big right now guys Yeah, you know, they've got opens They've got your anger they've they've got yeah, they've got smashing of rackets. Mm-hmm. There's controversy There's a controversy. Yeah, the best part of of Well, I like tennis. I don't don't follow everything. I've always sort of loose when you followed it I always want to build it every year because it's around my birthday Yeah, I just I if if I catch it early enough, you know, I'm always rooting for for certain folks And I really like tennis. I find it very soothing to watch but the The the not they're not always kids But the people who you know run around and catch the balls and make sure that you know You have a fresh towel on the whole thing and just like the like the agitation of it all You know that they're running like twice as fast as they really have to As if their life depended on it each time That's one of my favorite parts of tennis because it's just it's just that's just the way it is You want that job you have to dash and hurt yourself potentially bad on your knees Just like tennis itself. What are they? What are they called? They're the it's the equivalent of a ball boy in Baseball, but I don't think that's what it's called. Yeah, but it's a it's a frenzy Kramer in Seinfeld remember that he was a tennis ball boy, whatever they call him. Oh, yeah, that's right If anyone knows more about this, it's like is there some sort of class you have to take You know, do you are you have to you have to be good at track and field before hand? If the patreon goes down anymore, we might have to be looking for other gigs and that that's on our list That's great to hear Tom I found it ball boys and ball girls are individuals usually in their youth who retrieve and supply balls for players or officials in sports Such as football or soccer American football bandy Bandy cricket tennis baseball and basketball. So they're all Or ball girls Got it. All right. That's cool to know. Sorry interrupted your your financial news Tom is just saying that we're all gonna have to become those tennis runners I don't think no, no, no See you're you're you're running like a ball girl in a frenzy with what I said I said if if it were to continue to go down at some point we would have to look for another career So it's always be I see what you're saying. Yeah Like like any Any wildly successful show, right? If the opposite happens Yeah, we'd have to get other jobs. Yeah, right exactly. Yeah game of thrones is ending next year It can't go on forever. Sure. So what's John Snow gonna do after that? He's probably gonna get another job. You know, I'm gonna be a ball boy. You know, how would he know? He's also he'd be a little small to be a tennis pro So that might the ball boy might be his only option either that or a referee. Yeah, lying judge an umpire You might he might do well Scyes shouldn't be a limitation. Maybe he could have a little a Roger but Well, Scyes and sports is a legitimate. It's not a prejudice It's like well, if you're just not tall enough to get to the basket in basketball You're probably gonna be a point guard or not play, right? Like There's just some some sports that require certain physical attributes like for instance strength. That's why I don't play sports Yeah upper body strength. Yeah An upper body or Play anything against another human sure competitive that You need a competitive bone in your body. I'm like, you know, why don't you just say you won and we can go get sandwiches And then delicious sandwiches and that's right. Yeah Let's not compete here. Let's just It's just it's funny I'm not way with video games even it's like I just I Don't care that I mean it I'd love playing but I'm there to play not to have won or have some kind of Weird I hate that feeling it depends on the game for me though Like a lot of multiplayer FPSes Don't interest me like I don't find them interesting enough but if it were a Contest of like, you know Like say you're playing Super Mario Brothers I'm like how many points you could score in the set amount of time or like, you know How far can you get in Tetris in like five minutes or something like that? I would be totally down for that. Yeah Well, I'll that's Tetris thing sounds fun I love Tetris. It's weird because you can zone out and leave the world's problems behind Tetris is it's it's meditation for sure Zen gaming. It's it's I've always anything that's sort of like Tetris and there are a lot of games that are the same idea I I always those are the games. I like lock out. I would love block out. Ooh, me too. Yeah block out. Yeah Yeah, I mean I I played dots on my phone on a plane all the time still And that's there's nothing special about that game, but it's fair. That's one of the reasons I still play a pocket camp animal crossing. It's it's just light enough Mm-hmm. So are you doing that here? You were killing how you busted me. You're like, you're still playing that. I'm like, yeah I was impressed. It made me kind of want to get back in so job. Well done. I guess Think of things that that I would want to So like bar trivia like trivia night at a bar I would say that that would be something I would enjoy the competition, right because it's limited. It's for fun It's not high stakes. Also not physical. No one gets hurt People don't go Most people don't go crazy Yeah, you don't have like a stadium of cheering fans Well, you don't get like those people are so aggro about winning that it just becomes unfun for everyone Yeah, well, yeah, and those people usually get kicked off teams now We're not kicking anyone off a team here, but we are ending the video stream Thank you folks for watching if you're a patron listening to good day internet or live on our discord stick around There's more to come