 I'm the cold kid from the pocket I'm the one calling all the shots, shots, shots Whether you're ready or not, drop, drop Go left, go right, waking up my appetite No fork, no knife, having dinner with my ass So sweet, so nice, have a slice of apple pie Wanna see my mind, baby, you just join my ride Getting ready for the weekend, bubbles through the ceiling Sure, I got dough, but don't need it Cause all I want is your healing, your healing Hello everybody Hello Hello Hello everybody, how are we doing? I want distinguished Yes, I can hear on the podcast Oh There's like a static There's a staticky sound Yeah, there's a bit of a static from your mic Oh, it's probably cause the cables, no, it's cause the cables twisted up The cable and your headphones is twisted up Rose on the wrong The cable and your headphones is twisted up Rose No, anybody, anytime somebody talks, it does static Is this better? Test stream Is this better now? Hello, hello, hello Hello Oh, okay, I fixed that Yay, okay, I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna tell you guys what was wrong Cause it's gonna make me look like so dumb I just didn't hit the power button on my mic Oh my gosh Oh, it's static Okay, I have a feeling It's still there Oh, what would have caused this? Can you guys hear us here? Are we talking again? Hello, hello Testing one, two, three Good evening, amusement insiders viewers You know what, let me try this Does this fix it? We are okay, apparently Somebody's asking for the discord link I got you Am I lagging now? I got you discord.gg slash amusement insiders That's right, we got a special code now Somebody says Brendan sounds fine, but it's us who's static Yeah, it's Brendan's fine, it's whenever we talk Interesting That is such a shame I've never been more offended in my life You tell me I'm the issue We are all the issue Okay, let me fix this quickly I think I know what it might be All of us are He switches says it might be an issue on the streaming software And I'm trying that right now Role looks confused Apparently I'm glitching now I agree the random view It may just be Did that do anything? I pour No Did that do... Nope, no There's still stuff That is so... No, Brendan, I'm fine You cannot keep the chat company while Brendan fixes the issue They're saying it's you guys So it has to be discord Which means it's the application capture device Okay, well I'm gonna try and do It's literally whenever we talk Okay Did that do anything? Still static-y? Testing I was like no one's talking Are we good? Uh-oh This is gonna be it Somebody's saying it's fixed It works? Does it work? No, it's working now Okay, so it's because I haven't used the stream What happens is like the guy that's behind Ryan is gone And because of that it's gone Yeah Yeah Okay It's because I... Everybody round of applause in the chat It's fixed It's because the podcast hasn't been like active in a while So the streaming software was set to the same And I think I had to refresh it So I just deleted the audio capture device and reinstalled it You'll turn it off and turn it back on Should we like ask everybody what they've done Since last time we've all had a podcast We live in Canada, what do you think we've done? True I love 40 degree summer Yes, 40 degree summer is called for in September of all times September is just a spot y'all Jasmine, what have you been up to? Miss America Miss America I went to my first Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween party That was super fun It was as cute as you would expect Someone remove her right now That's my dream event I went to Michigan's Adventure and it was lovely You did go to Michigan's Adventure, yeah The C&E Yeah It was great I did miss the C&E, that's like a classic event I think it should be a classic event But it is for some reason Unfortunately it is That's too expensive Sam, what did you do? Nothing really, just went to the C&E and just been back and forth from Wonderland to here And then working, nothing really exciting Nothing too exciting Oh my god I started college 2000s I moved into Newhouse Yeah, I'm here, gang And also So that's why we got my camera back This Yeah, you've been up to a lot Talk about jealous, I'm jealous of all your travels I have been up to a lot I used to be this But now I have a face He has a face now Tim's wide I'm going to be super honest with you guys My phone battery, I was an idiot and didn't charge my phone And my phone is what controls the Discord audio For me to be able to hear them and Discord So we're going to try and make this like We'll see how long I think I can get 45 minutes out of this So we'll get right into it and then we'll keep We'll keep the chit chat for the end if my battery lasts This Portrager battery We'll get 30 minutes out of her lucky Okay Hi Ryan's mom Cool is good Ryan's mom? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait Okay So let's get right into it Because I'm so flustered with Wonderland And what they're doing Because we have a construction site In Whitewater essentially We have survey markings in Whitewater from 2019 We have survey markings in the mountain We have survey markings in Kingswood We have survey markings in Action Zone We have survey markings in a little bit of MedFair Not as much as the rest Red flags in Go-Karts And an RMC carving in Wild Beast And red spray paint all over Wild Beast Okay, so we've been all over the board Okay Who here has watched my video in Discord right now From today Because you all know what we're getting then If you've seen it Personally I can't talk Fake hands in here Okay, so I want to talk about it Because everything seems so confusing And I think what happened And what is happening is we're like puppies right now Like we're really excited about our park's future And every time something pops up We're like oh well that must be the area Well that must be the area And I've said this on my podcast And it's like I should take my own advice When you see something It doesn't necessarily mean that it's next Especially when it comes to survey markings So I think we really need to focus on some key things And the key things are Where are the current teasers? Like where are the teasers currently occurring? What realm in the park? Yukon Striker Yes And Tundra Twister They're creating like a storyline I think Jasm lagged out a bit But I just realized And then we have Grace Teased on another YouTuber's video What's the YouTuber's name again? I'm like half out of it today TPM Vids TPM Vids They make the best content Like actual history videos and Disney videos They tease that they weren't done with Frontier Canada And they had big things in the works So and then thirdly The survey markings are the oldest in this area So if anyone remembers Right after COVID the park opened Survey markings were all over Whitewater's Forest And Action Theater's Plot of Land So when the survey came out About which roller coaster you would prefer We had one that was extremely detailed In Whitewater's area And we had one that was almost like AI whipped it up So I think you're I think everyone's Getting at what I'm trying to say here I think we jumped the gun And that it's pretty obvious What we're getting We're going to talk about everything today Or try to talk about everything Next time I'll make sure my phone's charged We're going to try and do these more often too by the way We were supposed to do these a couple We were supposed to do them a couple nights earlier But I got stuck at work till 1.30 in the morning last night And yeah, there's been a lot of work emergencies on my end But what are you guys Okay, so we'll go try and keep it quick Because remember my phone One by one What do you guys think about all the teasers And the survey markings And what are your thoughts just about everything Like jumping from ride to ride to ride to ride Jake, go Oh, me, yes, okay I recently went to Kings Island I rode Mystic Timbers And I loved it It is literally so good It's better than every ride at Wonderland So if we get any type of wooden roller coaster By GCI, I will be Even if it's like Invader Like Invader at the Busch Gardens Williamsburg Is a family GCI And I hear that's awesome So I feel like anything by GCI would be awesome In terms of all the other areas I want to RMC Steel Vengeance It goes Steel Venge in the Mystic Timbers So boom, boom If we got something like that I wonder that I'd be happy There's my opinions I don't want no more BNMs Yeah, I think we need a little break from BNMs I agree with Jake An RMC would be a nice change I don't know how well it would perform In terms of where you've heard that it It may be a maintenance nightmare Or it may be a maintenance headache Whatever the case may be But I think there's a lot of changes coming Definitely It's going to be over the span of several years Obviously, but for the immediate future Or for the near foreseeable future I can see big changes coming And I hope that an RMC is in the works In some way shape or form Before we move on to the next person I am breaking news I didn't break in my construction update I forgot to put it in the construction update So there will be a little bit of tea Coming in soon Jazm, you're back Also, you look so good Like what the hell? Oh, thank you I've been doing a lot better lately That's to be honest Yeah, no, my internet keeps cutting out So I just switched my phone Sorry about that So basically You guys would have laughed the second I started your video today And you said anything about Guardian I was like, they're taking the pride out I was so excited for it to be removed And then you were like, it's getting like bins or something And I was like, no So I guess it sounds to me Like if there's this much action going on In that many different parts of the park That I think we're getting the like theming overhaul That Grace has been hinting at And it makes it a lot harder for us to guess At what rides are coming in what order So I'm hesitating a little bit to speculate It's more specifically than that Until we get some more detailed information But I'm really hoping that the red flags Or the red paint and stuff on go karts Means that that's going bye bye And the matching red paint on wild beast Means that it's getting a full overhaul And it's going to take over that go karts area Fingers crossed Yeah, we're going to talk about that next actually Zach, what do you think about all the areas? I want to start with what you put in your video today In my opinion, it's a GCI I'm super down for it I love GCI I think a family GCI like Invader Is better than like 80% of the rides at Wonderland I think they are incredible rides They are amazing Especially the larger scale ones But I'm thinking this is probably a family GCI From what we've seen So that's more likely They're still amazing rides I see your face All right For wild beast For wild beast I love the opinion that no matter what we get If it's gravity group retrack Or if it's RMC It's good no matter what I think if it's gravity group We get a good wooden coaster out of it If it's RMC We get a top tier coaster out of it If it's RMC I would rather something more intense Like Iron Guasi or Hikugae Instead of something like Steel Vengeance Because Steel Vengeance is a bit too floaty for me And I think Wonderland need something more intense I'm sorry, what did he just call me? What did he just call me? What did he just call me? He said Haku- Haku-gay? Yeah Happily Happily not sandwiched to white whale Yeah It means white whale Okay, okay, Ryan you're turd All right Despite what some may believe I think the possibility of a GCI is actually quite nice Granted Out of the GCI's I have experienced I think Mystic Timbers is decent at best Same goes for Invader I thought they were about the same But they're still good rides No matter what They just aren't great rides But they're good And I think it's definitely something that we would need At Canada's Wonderland So I say bring on a GCI That'd be great Don't think Wild Beast is getting RMC The timing doesn't make any sense with anything At best Gravity Group Refract That'd be great I do also think that the part could just be trolling us But yeah That's my thoughts We're gonna touch on that Okay Let's move on to Oh, wait Oh, okay good Yeah, this is it Okay, so the mystery marking that has popped up on Wild Beast Okay, so I've talked to my sources about this a little bit more And what's interesting enough is this specific marking on this column Appears to have been done with water pressure It I have to be careful how I word this But after careful analysis There's no indent in the actual support column And it appears that it's just a color discoloration on the support Which has me thinking Especially since the numbers don't make sense down below I have a feeling this is a troll I actually think for the first time ever Wonderlands trolled us I would be okay with that I mean if they're finally starting to play the game Then it's about to get interesting I mean they did put it on a very visible support Like there's not on many other ones in the rest of the layout Right at the exit, yeah Um You can see it on the exit ramp if you look for it And they also know we're watching Wild Beast, right? We've been making videos of the actual markings So all the markings are actually in areas you can't see They're on like the break ground, the lift hill And all that So I'm still gonna hold out that this is gonna be a gravity group renovation I do hear an echo which is weird Does someone have their audio coming out of a speaker? That's usually what that is Brian I'm turning it down, I'm turning it down, I'm turning it down Okay The only thing I would say if I may interject for one second is that I think you brought up an excellent point the other day It's not so much to do with RMC But it more to do with remove column Unless you're absolutely correct about the troll part You did bring up that really good point And I've been thinking about that for a couple of days That if they're if they are removing this column for some reason For whatever reason there may be Then Wonderland silenced him It's after us First me, now him, it's everybody It's not over, it's so, it's so Oh he's gone, gone He's been kidnapped Anyone else have an opinion about the markings And RMC Wild Beast versus Gravity Group? Try and make it quick, but yeah Okay really quick I don't think it's for remove column Because remove is one word And it's not a long enough word for them to require two letters In my opinion I think if they do remove the column To me that's proof that it was a troll That is exactly what I'm saying Remove column is too long word It's also kind of bad, not a column We abbreviate remove column RMC RMC We do not need to include the R there It doesn't have to be three letters there That would be like it It's ROC Reuve column Reuve This is a crazy English plus name I'm being taught English Also, the wooden part that goes vertically Is not a column on a wooden coaster It's a bent So True Wow it's actually It's actually a bent It's actually a bent guys It's actually a bent That theory is just like Throwing out the window I got a lot of DMs about that by the way I got so many people messaging me being like Well it's actually a bent Not a column And I'm like Actually I mean the park would know that though So like why would they put column Or see for column Reuve column Right You would see RB Wait because it's two words It's not three words As Ryan has told us He got a full illustration As he told us in his English lesson for the day Yeah Yeah So I'm gonna stick to gravity group Like I've always been saying And it's it's happening Cause there's If anyone's been paying attention There's actually stuff being piled underneath Wild Beasts too I mean I think they can't hide the action But they can mess with us To try to like direct our attention In the wrong way I would just like get a sticker Of the RMC logo And just slap it somewhere You know Yeah we should start trolling back Yeah like look at them Look what someone said Key switch it The X with an arrow pointing down to RMC Was like Hey amusement insiders Embarrass yourself right here Right here As soon as I'm putting it on stuff It's like one six legs over Georgia I'm sorry I didn't expect that Sorry It's like one six legs over Georgia Was about to RMC Georgia Cyclone And a bunch of enthusiasts Got RMC shirts And started pointing at the ride Hilarious We should do that I shouldn't do something like that That would be hilarious Oh we should do a prank For April Fool's what we'll do We'll get some RMC shirts I'm giving away now so it won't work But we'll film like random people wearing them Like proper RMC shirts Like dress shirts Near like the Woodrides at Wonderland And I'll post it on April Fool's We should get hard hats too And like clipboards and stuff I'm down Let's see okay Now for everybody currently back in the stream For people watching the stream You can't tell anyone now okay This is a secret Yeah GP has to be surprised Yeah yeah You gotta surprise people okay Does anyone have any other thoughts on the The bent The marked up bent Remove bent RMB RMB Yeah Never heard of this company Jackson you're not the only one Having internet issues right now Sorry Right it's always when you have to screen It's Wonderland Yeah Wonderland is also having internet issues All right Next Which is a question about the number 10 sign Each support is labeled So that would be the 10th support out of the station On the first term Yes the number Yeah One of the patrons say Imagine they order a piece of RMC track Just for giggles That would be an expensive troll Just for the giggles Just for the giggles It'd be pretty funny come on Okay Maybe another park has a left over What's that on the screen This is This is amusement insiders tea okay This is only we know Okay if anyone else reports on it This is our tea So they're installing the bin system on Yukon Don't ask why they're installing it now I'm confused too We were told they were going to install it Like two years ago And then they never did And then we were told they were going to install it At the beginning of this year And they never did And now they're installing it So the bin system is going into Guardian Which means it's here to stay And maybe hopefully fingers crossed I've heard nothing in the room about this So that's not what I'm saying But fingers crossed That this means that the ride will receive some love I will say train number five has been shipped Out of Wonderland Oh Can they do that with all of the trains And like the rest of the ride Yeah can they just like And like the rest of the ride And the track too please It's like give it to like Michigan's adventure Or something they'll appreciate it Maybe they're only They'll like it more than us Maybe the installation of the bins Is like when you're trying to sell your house So like you paint it and make it look nice Maybe that's what they're doing They're like put the bins in And just put that as part of the sales So we can get rid of it I'd say more or so it's like If they took a really bad garbage can And like put a sticker on it That says great job Listen if you buy if you buy Guardian Hear me out if you buy Guardian You get a cool bin system That's why you get the golden ticket award Award winning bin system With the ride That's the way It's the selling tactic Yeah So I find it really interesting Train 5 is no longer on site So to me it sounds like Someone's working on it Trying to come up with a solution And then they'll send it back And if it works All the other trains will get sent off For the same upgrade If this is where I'm going to promote myself I highly recommend Subscribing to our Patreon Don't subscribe I need to delete the dollar option Even though it does say That the dollar option doesn't get you anything But yeah Yeah So I highly recommend There are really cool photos on Patreon Just so everyone knows But yeah Anyone have any thoughts About Guardian and the bin system? Yeah why does Guardian get this Leviathan not? That's a good question I actually have the answer to that Leviathan does not currently have Enough room to hold the bin system On their current station Simply destroy the station I think the money would be better Invest in revamping Leviathan's station Than putting a dollar on it I would agree I would agree with that Give it a name on the soundtrack I think we should replace Wonder Mountain With a Walmart I think in honor of CGA We should just replace Wonder Mountain With an entire Amazon warehouse Agreed I think that means it's time to move Nobody likes this ride We're all like Why are you bothering? Nobody really cares Do enough people even ride it That it needs bins? Like what is going on? It does have a lineup It does have a lineup on busy days And it stretches outside of the mountain I need that It has a two hour line on a slow day And I think that's worth of the capacity Just the speed of the ride What I want from this ride I love lore and story and stuff I just want to know more About the story of this ride Hold on I'm just taking a picture of Ryan's mom Complimenting me to use for later Thank you What do you mean to use for later? I feel like Okay Regarding Guardian On a serious note I feel like if they're secretly doing this Because they're like secretly planning To redo the entire show part of the ride Like everything that we see on the screens Then there might be some iota of a redeeming factor But that doesn't mean that the ride itself would be good What you're seeing while you're on it would get better But I kind of feel like it's already too late For that though Jasmine I mean you bring up a really good point But I kind of feel like it's already too late for that Because the ride is at a point where I guess most people don't care about it But it's also there because it's busy So I don't know if there is a redeeming factor To that though I think as long as there's a line they're gonna try The unfortunate fact about Guardian Is that we have one of the worst coasters in the country With one of the best elements in the country That is like I don't think he could really argue against that That's all it's got going for it right now Also I know like theater fair amusement park and stuff But the inside of the station needs some work It's like they fried with a little like one switchback But they don't even open because flooding Or heat exhaustion or fire or whatever But like we say replace it with an Amazon warehouse It already looks like one in there It already looks like one Hear me out the new story of the ride Picture it You are not going into a cave to fight a dragon You are going into the warehouse to sort some boxes Jeff Bezos' wild ride You're trying to escape Jeff Bezos I'm working for you The surprise of the ride is actually just Jeff Bezos firing you And the real dragon in the mountain, Herman rescues you in the end Things are happening Things are happening All right next topic Is that an Illuminati symbol? This is everything Where have we seen these before guys? The Illuminati? Yeah the Illuminati, I don't know More recently, where have we seen this type of, what do you call it, marking? Hold our hand through, I don't know, tell us Tell the chat First where is that? Where was the picture taken? This is the road heading into Wonderland Right near where the hotel construction was supposed to be The chat, get it? Is it the toll booth? No, this is too far from the hotel This is too far from the toll booth But this is where a proposed gate would be moved back in the renderings for a hotel Yeah, I'm not going to say anything because I have a video coming that I have a little something to do with this I guess this is somewhat related but whatever happened to that I recall there was plans to be a ramp off of the highway directly onto the park Whatever happened to that I feel like that would be a traffic nightmare Yeah, I don't know if they can do that anymore Vaughn probably shut them down on that idea Now these markings also do work their way towards the toll booths And there are a bunch of them at the toll booths So hopefully, I don't know what these are, nor do my sources Hopefully it is a toll booth runout And even more hopefully, which I think is less likely Even though I was hyping up the hotel This is showing signs of a hotel I think that Why is everyone still against my hotel? I'm kidding Look at Wilson It's Wonderland, man They're after us With Wonderland, um Yeah, they are triangle with dots in them Which usually mean something's got to go in there So it's either signage or gates or um Yeah Lamp Lamp Well, they wouldn't put a lamp there, but yeah I say put a lamp in the middle of the road And let the cars try to go around it Could it possibly be them marking something underneath That they would want to avoid if they were to say Rip up the road and repave it Because it's in rough condition So I definitely think the road Usually those are color coded, right? Yeah, you would see like a yellow line Those are color coded and straight lines Yellow is electricity, blue is water Yeah, gas and whatever Yeah From what I've been told by my source I think it could be Sorry, you go first Whenever you see a triangle with a dot in it It usually means like a column He said signage, like posts, like stuff like that But there's a lot of them Yeah, I don't feel stupid for what I'm about to suggest Because I think it could be like a big overhead banner sign Like how when you're going into all the Disney parks It's usually on top of the booths themselves But this could be either like ahead of the booth Or they could be redoing the booths If they move it that far back though For traffic sake They're it's going to have to be at least partially automated Because that lineup to get it is already a mess sometimes Yeah Whatever this is I don't think it could be too tall Since the road runs directly parallel to a neighborhood Well, it would be signage They don't have any restrictions out here really In terms of they're not going to build like 300 feet 200 feet or even 100 feet But no It could be like traffic light height Is someone okay? No, the Patreon The patrons are asking are they fixing the road? Probably That would be my easiest assumption I'm begging for a self-serve Toll booths like Kings Island finally I don't get why we don't have them at the most expensive labor park In the literally the market right now So I think Cedar Fair is so dumb to not build self-serve toll booths Yeah, I was just like Kings Island That self-serve toll booth There was nobody there I came in at right at 10 o'clock No line No line That was great I'd see it for point two You just drive up scan your platinum pass And ride on through And then even the people who were paying There was like only one or two cars there Yeah That's how it should be Yeah, I think that we're getting a major So there's a couple of things Let's talk about it Because I've heard a couple of things I did hear from one of my sources That something was actually supposed to happen I know this is so rich coming from me But I heard something was actually supposed to happen With Action Theater this year That for next year There were orders to clear out Action Theater At the end of last season And then they did And then they were told to put everything back At the beginning of this season Imagine being the person that got that jump That's all I heard The person didn't say that for sure knew it was a ride But they just said that was interesting information For you to know So And then the person also Kind of brought up a really good point with that statement That whether it was a dark ride Or a flat ride Someone's banging Your mic's picking it up Y'all look so scared He's tapping away That if we were supposed to Ooh Ooh okay I'm in focus Everything's gonna malfunction That basically if we were supposed to get a flat ride Or something else with the water slide Which is typically It is not normal for Wonderland to just get a water slide By the way It is not normal at all So in my opinion because Tundra Twister flopped Something was changed I think that They've been listening to a lot of feedback I don't know how to fix this This camera like occasionally like Starts glitching out It's the ghost in your house And we all know it, it's fine How do you make a camera focus again? Make the background beside your focus Hold your hand in the air Oh okay Oh You could have helped me earlier He's like watching me struggle I'm not watching the stream I'm not watching the stream Oh my gosh My internet is so bad I can't watch the stream I was trying to tell you how to do it They realized I was muted Oh my gosh I love how I'm blaming you guys But really I'm the oldie here That's like How do you do this? We have something from Patreon chat They say that from what they are reading On Google a triangle with something in it Typically marks some sort of utility That's still telling though Because that could mean they're trying to Put electricity or something there Which could also still indicate either Like a sign or toll boots or something So it could really be like almost anything Yeah Basically But I Someone wants to know Something's happening Why Tundra Twister is a flop So I'm gonna be honest I have different opinions to everyone else I think the only reason Tundra Twister is a flop Is because of its location The entire area is kind of a dead area of the park So Yeah I think if you put Tundra Twister Next to Leviathan It would do extremely well But also if you put anything in it Probably like drop tower does so well It's next to Leviathan Yeah I feel like drop tower would get like a 10-15 minute line If it was at the back of the park But it often times gets 45 minute lines Yeah That's true They really need like a staple attraction In that side of the park to bring more people over there Like a Oh wait wait We have to see the video from earlier first The whole area Yeah Let's go to it Because my phone's probably got like 20 minutes So You think 20 minutes but in reality it's 5 Okay I'm gonna discuss I'm gonna discuss this in detail And then we'll go one by one But essentially These two very large construction trailers Have popped up behind action theater There is also a crap ton of electrical wiring Piled right near them as well They are both facing away from each other With staircases built coming out of them So it's not just stored there They're not just parked there They are literally Attached to the ground now Anchored down with the staircases built on them They are permanently there for a bit And it definitely looks if you look at it Like they built a workstation Like a little A little And to be honest this is bigger than Yukon Strikers Set up to when they were building Yukon Strikers This is a lot more serious And what do you think would be a lot more bigger of a project than a roller coaster? I think we got surveyed on it An entire themed area Literally that Yeah roller coaster and an area Yeah That's a full area for sure So they're definitely getting ready Again this aligns with the $35 million project that I heard about This also aligns with the starting construction in December Which I have been told that actually might be starting in January now But we'll see what that goes on What goes on with that But yeah I think that Again When a park shows you a concept like this I think we should have stuck to this is what Wonderland wants Because everything else Wonderland showed us Was like AI whipped up And if anyone remembers my videos from when Wonderland first opened with COVID All the markings were back there already Whereas Wonderland's just surveying the rest of the park now And when they're surveying the company then takes it They have to create the digital world And then they have to send it off to the coaster manufacturers For them to to come up with something So that's still like two three years out So I think it's clear as pie now You know I was saying let's wait to see where construction starts When construction starts to see where our coaster I think that's pretty evident I think that's evidence enough But again we won't fully jump the gun But I think that when we sit down You know when an adult tells you to like Like a kid's like losing his mind And they're getting excited And they're like I think that we needed someone to be like Slow down and think about it Just think about it Because the proof was in front of us this whole time And Wonderland was throwing us Like we're dogs Like they're throwing us bones And balls to catch and all that And we're running and catching them all One right in front of us The evidence is that the family GCI Was what's next I mean yeah like It looks so good It looks beautiful And like this is clearly This is clearly a finished idea Like they sat down and thought You know a gift shop can go here And the photo stand can go here And food stands can go out here Like it's a finished idea Yeah I think this is something that's cool It makes sense for the park too Like all ages can enjoy this It's fun but it could also be seen as a bit intense Because of how GCI's are So that's pretty cool Yeah guys also remember GCI's are in front of us This concept art probably isn't even accurate Like look at it Like the second drop is taller than the lift hill So calm down everyone Yeah In the comments section They're definitely not going to tell you everything in concept art Yeah we don't know if it's actually going to be Like a Zambiesi Zinger clone Or if it's going to be bad or the But if you guys want a really good example Of concept art versus finished product And I say finished product loosely Because it's still under construction Go look at the original concept art For Universal's Epic Universe That's being built right now And then go on YouTube after this And look at the latest There's a few different channels That will do like construction updates Based on this one guy does drone footage But he doesn't do YouTube videos So everyone uses his footage That does construction updates But it's very close to the concept art But you can see how the rides were kind of You know they're done like an artist would do them It's not accurate It's not an engineer didn't draw this ride An artist drew this ride But you can see how like Like I said kind of roughly where the gift shops Will be and stuff Roughly where the water flows Is going to be somewhat accurate Because they do give the artists Like a blueprint to go off of But that's a really good example Of like concept art Versus how it actually comes to life Now this gets even more interesting I reached out to the park After announcement of the water side And I said do you have anything else I was pretty bold in what I said But I said like I feel like this isn't it And they responded with the typical PR Like this is all we have for now That's what was said back to me Do you guys notice anything about the concept art? More specifically Jake Do you remember riding white water About two weeks ago And what I said near the end Where this concept art takes place What did I see? I don't know if it was you or Jacob But I noticed something in white water's trough Stairs on the other side? No spray paint No it was some oh yeah yeah yeah It was something on the other side though So they spray painted yeah They spray painted where the trough Wherever it's cracking and all that Which if you um What I think this construction vehicle should I have Someone said would coasters take longer to build That's actually false Would coasters get built really quickly You can build a wooden coaster in two Not even Some of them go up in like three months Like from pouring the footings to opening the ride Eight months Yeah So again construction starting Even before Yukon started technically Or I guess it's around the same time It tells you that it's a bigger project The company's probably gonna do some work to white water And you know maybe white water is the second half Of the announcement Maybe they'll have to white water's renovation To get ready Because white water's clearly getting a renovation In this the stuff They're adding theming They're adding stuff So they're probably gonna try and get a lot of that done That would make sense We have a kind of sort of related question From the patrons Where they're asking Do you think um Let's go Do you think that the coaster will be very different from the one shown Because of possible restrictions in the area And also how easy is it for a ride addition to be changed the last minute Very easy So I can tell you right now That Wonderland was presented with probably a multitude of concepts For this area For their GCI even GCI is not gonna submit Wonderland Well sorry I'm burping GCI is not gonna submit Submit Wonderland one design They submit them multiple and then Wonderland picks And then you guys remember I had I literally I can't say who But I gave you guys one of the like An industry specialist That people in here know who he is They're not gonna say who he is But I gave you guys someone that knows how the stuff works And you know what they said Just to repeat it The company will submit concepts to Wonderland And Wonderland will be like Uh I like this one But can you change like this this and that And then they send it back And the company goes And they submit it back And Wonderland be like Uh okay yeah yeah I guess I like this Or they're like Uh can you start over actually We did our surveys like a week ago And people found it kind of boring You know can we like make it taller Longer faster Those are the kinds of conversations that Every theme park is having with The companies they're working with It's also easier to make changes to a wood design Than a steel design Because they need a lot of time to like Like think about Leviathan right A lot of those supports are like Gigantic and huge and long And they have to be to exact specifications And if you're like Oh can you change that by five feet Oh can you make this turn This way and send Like that's That's a significant change That requires a significant amount of time For them to produce that Hunk of metal But with the wood coaster They just you know Populated into their system They do the calculations And all the things they need to do And you just cut wood to different lengths You make sure they're all numbered Correctly and everything So I do think like As far as can changes be made Like absolutely if this is what they're going with Yeah and then um The explosive ending Oh go go Oh no that's okay You can talk about that first yeah I personally like I get that it's not going to be like Mystic Timbers Mystic Timbers is not considered family right I I don't know this kind of stuff No no it's definitely It rides like a family coaster No it does not And we just Guys We should just have a This is your It has a 48 inch high requirement So technically it's a family coaster Thank you By height requirement By height requirement By the experience It's not Yeah it's not a High requirement It's 48 inches Yeah but it's not going to be Most kids first coaster There was some like Little stupid kid This tall in real life Next to me lining up for it I was like yeah this is a family coaster Those are the kids that end up on Tiktok screaming and crying And like the person they're riding With this recording them Instead of comforting them Now I will say It is weird that Wonderland Went from Planet Or um Snoopy's Racing Railway To another family coaster I find that decision process A little weird But then For those of you that have been to Wonderland over the last two weeks I don't know if you noticed a trend The adult side of the park was Pretty much at capacity The ride lines couldn't hold anymore And the family side of the park was Empty Walk-ons So I wonder if there's a reasoning Behind this If they're trying to bring back the families Which brings us into another question From the patron chat Like what are the chances here Of this ride actually being Very different from the concept art As in Not a family coaster This is a thrill GCI Or changes made because of Height restrictions Possibly height restrictions in the area So I mean GCI could do that Wonderland could easily be like We like this type of model But we want it to be high thrill They could request that We're gonna have no way to know So the height restriction in this area To be a little more specific What is behemoth's turnaround height At least two feet 150 something I can get you an exact height in just a minute It's a pro I'd say around 150 feet I think I have a height chart of behemoth I will find it right now Of course Ryan does Of course Miss September's is 109 feet There you go 46 meters What does that mean The turnaround is exactly 150 feet So They're not going to have any issues with height For a wooden coaster Back where they're building Um yeah and also What Jake just said I just want to say real quick What family coaster is 109 feet tall I think we're a little bit spoiled When it comes to height Like just because something isn't tall Doesn't mean it's not a high thrill I'm just saying like I don't think a little kid is gonna want to go on If a little kid is scared of heights And this thing is 109 feet tall I don't think that's a family coaster I rest my case Miss September's is not a family coaster A loss of coaster is 155 feet Isn't that right Yeah 155 feet That's a family coaster That I wouldn't say is not a I don't think so I wouldn't bring my little cousin on that That's for sure I wouldn't I wouldn't bring a kid onto Miss September's Yeah I'd bring them on to like racer first or something like that Um but yeah Is anyone like let down by the idea Again emphasis on idea that This whole okay not just the coaster That this could potentially be our 2025 As long as Whitewater gets a Fastlane 9 I'm okay Yeah I'm super happy with this I'm happy with it if only for the themed area Because that's gonna be awesome And then I would hope that they make good decisions When it comes to the ride But we'll have to wait and see Yeah I don't think Fastlane is in the works for that Jake just going back to your previous point Only for capacity Even though you know It could be possible But I think capacity might be an issue I'm trying to remember if Kings Island's had Fastlane because I rode that but I don't think it did Yeah um for me at least I'm super happy with this If it's 2025 If it's something like Zambiesie Zinger Or even Invader I'm happy with it And if it's a sorry if my dog's parking in the background And if it's something larger scale like Mystic Timbers That is about the same height as something like Troy I love that that is amazing They're both amazing wooden coasters So I think no matter what we get here with the GCI wooden coaster it's great Hopefully GCI teaches Wonderland what a proper family coaster is And we don't end up with like Because I'm a family boomerang Hopefully I do have little faith in Wonderland Whoever picks the rides at Wonderland I do have little faith in them Like not to sound like rude or anything But like it just seems like most of the time We're getting like really mild rides now Like Guardian was kind of a flop Tundra twister was a lot more mild than it was supposed to be I don't I'd get Leviathan was the first of its kind But Leviathan compared to its like sisters Had barely any shaping and was very mild Behemoth was probably the coolest one Leviathan's faster and that's also what I think is because of the weight They've added to the train Remember without the weight they've added to the train Leviathan's a very slow going giga Like a very slow going giga They had to add Like compare modern Leviathan They didn't do that to Fury or Ryan So Yukon I think is different But it's a dive coaster so it's got you know that But Yukon they really Yukon honestly BNM pulled it out Like honestly that was a really good layout for a dive coaster And that was probably Wonderland's best decision coaster wise In a while But I really think that You know after this I again you guys know I could rant all day I don't think the launch twin coaster is the route That they should be going because to me that's just like another filler And I know that also sounds pretentious But yes I do consider Yeah it's a it's a filler coaster That means 2027 We'll get our maybe Hopefully I my eyes are on Kingswood I think Kingswood houses the cool ride So I don't know I'm honestly I'm feeling the same way as Brandon I was like I would like to see a shake up in whoever gets the final yes or no on editions Because like you've had your turns It's not going great And I know this is gonna rough some feathers But like honestly I'm both like I have stocks in Cedar Fair I've been going to the park for a while I'm allowed an opinion and I'm giving my opinion So I think whoever is making decisions needs to maybe take a step back Or maybe if they're not going to take a step back Maybe just turn up the dial a little bit on thrill Yeah, but that's a personal Maybe maybe turn it into like a group vote Not just one person because I don't democracy I don't know Maybe How it currently works but Maybe something happened with I-305 and it was too intense And they just don't want to have a situation similar to that Right I mean they spent a lot of money on I-305 Not I'm not blaming any any terms of intimate being is partly intimate But it's also partly yeah Cedar Fair for choosing that I-305 was single-handedly the Oh my god I-305 was single-handedly the reason Kings the meaning didn't get a coaster for the next eight years So they definitely were scared out of intensity Yeah, so that's And then after that 2013 14 15 16 and then not 17 or 18 but 2019 they all installed B&M's at their Cedar Fair parks You want to know my biggest Like B&M is not the only other manufacturer out there Like that's the park that drives me nuts Like we've had so many in a row B&M was a They're not even doing so hot I'm sure they got a bulk deal or something But let's switch it up Right You want to know my biggest fear I was going to make this a video So you guys are going to get I am making this a video still I'm only going to give a little My biggest fear About wanting high intensity at Wonderland is And it shows with what's right in front of me right now Is that Wonderland and sorry I should say Cedar Fair This is a Cedar Fair decision for sure Cedar Fair has decided that they want Wonderland to be the next Knott's Berry Farm They want to turn it into a theme park And when you build the theme park And they need to look at the kind of rides that Knott's has It's variety I think that's right in front of us right now too though Even this wood coaster is going to have an explosive ending A storytelling ending And then the area And I think we're going to see this now with all of our rides But when you do that you're sacrificing intensity I think that they are I don't know because what's the Woody at Knott's Ghost Rider It's pretty intense That ride was awesome That's true But I just have a feeling they're aiming at families I think Wonderland's like we don't want the teens in our park anymore Understand what I think it is That is exactly what I think it is I think they're building for the audience they want Not the audience they have Yep I mean I wouldn't want you know The rude people in the park I don't think anybody does I don't blame them for that But there's other ways to handle that The one thing I'll tell you Melissa is if it's a GCI you're going to get airtime even if it's a kiddie coaster Have you guys seen my video my reverse POV on Bush Gardens Williamsburg what's it called again Invader Invader I posted the reverse POV It's a good ride A great out What I tell you is like you get airtime You get airtime on GCI's You get airtime on family GCI's You get airtime on thrill GCI's You you will be getting airtime on this Guys my battery is at nine percent I'm in the park My phone's a boss Okay let's keep going I don't know what else on your list But I didn't get airtime on Mystic Timbers I don't know what I did wrong Yeah I don't know what I did wrong either I didn't get airtime on ravinefly or two So cope Every hill it was just like am I going to get no Still in my seats Still in my seat Oh problem The girls are fighting You know what And so I was on Mystic Timbers like am I going to get airtime Whoa am I going to get airtime Whoa am I going to get airtime Whoa that's what it was like So I don't know what you're saying But the chaperone policy is not going to come to wonderland guys It's not going to come to wonderland That you could you could tell it's not I will say I didn't touch on this yet either There are signs that wonderland is going to get the softest Renault of front gate ever I'm talking about those new security scanners that you're seeing I think they liked them And I've noticed a great improvement They were very efficient at Kings Island Yeah With the new scanners they had them there So I think we're going to see a change in how they do things I think you're going to see the old metal detectors scrapped And there's going to be some sort of new setup next year So I mean that's exciting because yeah Anyone saw that line I posted on my story Apparently it only took 10 minutes to get through that line That was all the way to flight deck That's how good those detectors are Yeah that's a lot of people We have another question from Patreon chat So if this new like ghost town sort of area is coming to the park But what do you like them to do to the area during Haunt or Winterfest Or do you even think it'll be open during that time I think it would be a waste if they didn't use it Mr. Excellent I think they would have to I think it's perfectly designed for Haunt And they could decorate it so cute for Winterfest I feel like the aim would probably Brendan is just dying in the corner But I'm going to keep on talking I feel like the aim with the wooden coaster would be to Be able to have it open during Winterfest Right And so that they could have the area of the park open Oh my god yes That would be so Mystic mystic timbers has run in the snow before Okay It's also valid in the snow I feel like that should be mentioned No it's okay we're just going to forget about that Listen listen Well Vython has almost valid many times in the past Okay It's also valid Every ride has valid Listen Well Vython almost valid on a regular date That doesn't mean it's going to valy every day Listen listen How many times in the valley It's going to valy when it valies No one is going to care It's going to valy The Hemothée Valley But that doesn't mean it's the worst coaster in the world Okay Every ride People on the coaster is valid That's like one of the worst coaster in the world I said it was good That's almost like It's almost a goal for some of us Is to be on a ride when it valies That would be I want to be on a ride when it faults Even come true And get like some of that free stuff that they hand out If I got that on Maverick So I just want to point out And I'm glad some of the viewers did That I was literally dying and no one cared Oh no I said oh Brennan's dying Glad to pick her Yeah we're just here to keep the crowd entertained While you you know resolve whatever that was I always say at work This is a funny joke That when I climb the ladder to heaven We call it heaven It's like a storage area really high up in the air Whenever I go up there on the ladder I tell them my team I say if I fall, film it Don't help me, film it It would be pretty funny Get that lawsuit money Someone did call me out on a comment I made And they are right That immersive theming and high intensity If done right do exist And that is true of the LASA Coaster So yeah that is a very good call out The LASA Coaster I have to say there's also really good Family rides that have that kind of theming Like Hagrid's is a solid ride It's good for people I would say With all ages but most ages And it's like really great theming Like I wouldn't be disappointed If it was a really good ride Even if it was classified as a family ride Like I would say as a family ride Hagrid's is better than like 99% of thrill coasters See but it's a family ride I would say like as far as Good thrill rides that are also really well themed go You got LASA Coaster You got Terran You got Octavian Totatus There's some more up there But off the top of my head Oh Phoenix Is another one The other mostly in Europe I guess I guess yeah If we don't really theme stuff here in North America Well maybe we're looking at the wrong examples Here in North America We need to look at that We have like a whole one example Here in North America Yeah we got like We got it it's okay We got like two Listen Steel Vengeance has sides in a queue Okay that's theming I am convinced That Epic Universe is about to change the game for North America I've got it's looking to be next level as it's as it's being built I am so excited for Epic Universe I have followed Every single tree planted Like I'm gonna be first in that park's gates Summer 2025 I'll be there in Orlando Ryan's mom right now That's hilarious I will I will join you I'll have free reign then She doesn't have to come Oh man But yeah for as far as theming and thrills That's gonna like change the game And I think that and the European parks Is what Wonderland should be looking at More so than any No offense because there's great parks in the Cedar Fair chain But if they really want to be top of the chain They need to stop looking at the rest of the chain They need to look outside of those walls I'm just gonna say it If if taking sponsorships It means you get cool rides I'm okay with that I mean look at what Plopsiland got They took a sponsorship And then they got right to happiness, okay Ryan's mom in the chat I don't agree with sponsorships Although I will say I will say I'm gonna I'm gonna really I'm gonna counter what I just said Wonderland sponsorships with Icy and Coke Have done us wonders with our cheap drink plans So Yep I was gonna say you're flooded with Oak ads in the park already Yeah A lot of people don't know this I don't know if you guys know this But the reason Wonderland's able to offer a 45 dollar Or a 35, $32 drink plan Is because Coke literally gives them the product for free And Coke takes all the money earned From like bottles of water Bottles of Coke And the vending machine So when you're complaining about those overpriced bottles That's that's Coke trying to I guess get back whatever they can From giving the free stuff And then Wonderland has to plaster Coke wherever Coke wants in the park And then Icy it's the same They're listed as a sponsor So I'm assuming that they either Are giving it really dirt cheap Or free like Coke So Wonderland's able to offer those Because to me I when I first thought about I'm like how is Wonderland giving a 45 dollar pass For unlimited Ices hot chocolates Coffees and Coke products All season long now From end of April to be First week of January That's crazy to me Like there's no way they profit off that And then I remembered They don't pay anything They don't have to Yeah Yeah I have mixed feelings About products For a really good point Why do the refresh stations Always smell absolutely rancid What is that So working in retail And the restaurant industry I can tell you right now That sugar actually creates The worst rotting smell You can imagine That is literally just sugar rotting Under So the water sugar It gets under the counters Gets into the wood of those drink stands And it's rotting And it produces that disgusting Rock smell That's it You should see a Starbucks That's nasty I worked at Starbucks for 11 years As a store manager And you don't want to know The smells that come out of those back rooms I like the makeup of like Every refresh station I was like you know like The airport jungle juice bins right I like to think of all of them As just concentrated jungle juice bins I'll just bring my own water to the park For my own Jungle juice Rhonda what's your phone at Ever since we started talking about these sponsors I'm just thinking Topsojax here where Kingswood is Coca-Cola the blast coaster Someone kick him out No I'm kidding Take the bottle You're passed They need a Coke Mentos partnership for that I also learned So my issue with sponsorship Mentos drop down My issue with sponsorships Just having been back So I used to go to Disney when I was younger And I took a break for many years And now I obviously go a lot And the difference between the sponsored rides Then versus now Is the reason why I have mixed feelings about sponsored rides Because what happened to a lot of them Is the sponsors will be like Well contracts up And we don't want to renew See ya And then a new sponsor will come in And they might want changes made to the ride Or they might not be willing to invest As much in the ride Or some of them they don't find new sponsors And so the ride just kind of Goes like this over time And so it depends on the sponsorship agreement If it's like you know A very very long agreement Or if they don't have any kind of like you know Attachments to the ride afterwards Then that's fine But if it's done the way Disney does it It gives me cause for concern But how Plopsil ended it with Ride to Happiness Is pretty good Except the trade off is that you get Overly expensive merchandise Because it's all like tomorrow land Merchandise I'm not sure there's a way of doing it That is the same thing But I'm sure there is a way If Merch is going to be like That's it, who cares The sponsorships can be kind of funny sometimes Cause like I went to Epcot last March Road test track Thought it was a great ride Walking down the exit ramp Suddenly I'm in a Chevrolet dealership Exactly And I didn't like to go room And there's cars all over the place They had the same experience Silver stars Silver star you walk out You walk through the queue And it's just Mercedes It is an actual Mercedes dealership You walk into the exit All the merchandise There's no Silver star merchandise It is Mercedes merchandise You are buying Mercedes merch That's why you have to get through the car dealership And then you get the regular merch But that, yeah And I don't even have that big of a problem with that It's when Chevrolet says we out And then the next sponsor Doesn't want to upkeep the ride properly Or they want changes to it That the public doesn't like Like I think that's what happened to the figment ride Which is why everybody hates this current version of it Because the sponsor left And they had to make changes To have a new version for the new sponsor Whatever And it causes problems Also, if a sponsor has a controversial stuff Blue fire Blue fire, you know, having a Russian sponsor So Yeah I'm Warden at bread And is your photo like 1% How can they still hear us Brendan, you were given $5 and have not acknowledged it Wait, where? Wow Oh, thanks, Nikki Arnold I know, wait, Nikki, I know you Um, my phone's at 8% All right It's, and my phone is, my phone's tanking These iPhone low battery modes are like tank Yeah Also, Jake, what does your bedsheet say? As weird as that sounds I was hoping somebody would ask you I don't think we want to talk about that I think I should talk about it Do you want me to read it? Yeah Things I do on my spare time Ride roller coasters Watch others ride roller coasters Research roller coasters Think about roller coasters Dream about roller coasters Dream about riding roller coasters Ladies, ladies, one at a time One at a time Please, just one at a time Not too many, please My mom got it for me Because all she knows that I love roller coasters And that's all Oh, well, now I can't insult them Because you just brought your mom into it And she's sweet as pie Ryan's about to go ask his mom Be right back The beautiful Were you con striker poster in the background If I can get my camera to work The one right there I guess it's not going to stay in focus But she also bought that for me Yeah, Jake is going to be the voice behind our shorts He already has But he's going to start making them more often now Oh, my All right, I feel like are we missing anything? Comments, questions, concerns Put them in the chat Yeah, do any Patreons want to come in here And ask a question? Zach, when he's back, can organize that Ryan's mom would like to know Where you got those sheets from Behemoth's paint Don't give her any ideas Ryan's mom can know My mom got them from Redbubble Oh, Redbubble Yeah, someone sells some cool roller coaster stuff When they attend On Redbubble Oh, a mini skirt with flight deck on it Earlier in the chat I can't find it now But someone earlier was asking about Like a top thrill dragster type ride at Wonderland And I just wanted to say I don't remember who it was I'm sorry I can't scroll back that far Um But my personal thought is They're gonna wait and see how the Cedar Fair One goes for a while before they make that call for Wonderland Sorry, the Cedar Point Cedar Point, sorry I mean, as far as like On, I guess it's gonna say Red Force I mean, Red Force is not 400 It's like 300 something And that did pretty good for that part Yeah, it's 360 something And that did pretty good for that park But I don't know how that did at Wonderland I'd assume it'd be the same but Um Nikki asked a question Patreon is better than YouTube membership To be honest I should probably just like Cancel the YouTube membership Patreon is where I actually leak stuff Yeah YouTube makes YouTube members Yeah, YouTube takes a lot of money Yeah Um Why are the bins not implemented at other Cedar Fair parks? I can tell you that Because at other Cedar Fair parks They've trained their guests not to bring items But at our park They have trained their guests to bring bags So we bring bags If you go to Cedar Point, Kings Island Or like any of the other parks that have lockers At all their rides You don't see very many people carrying bound bags But you'll see 90% of the people at Wonderland Carrying around bags There was talks of them being on Orion But that didn't go through for whatever reason Are we dogs or something? I mean did you guys see my video? Do you remember I posted the video of the guests at Flight Deck Auto assorting themselves like perfectly? Yeah That was crazy to me That was so cute I'm just used to it Behemoth is supposed to get repainted this season The thing with Wonderland and Cedar Fair You will learn this People will They change their plans They cancel things They have a budget And if they So for example Wonderland will have a budget Right? You're allowed to spend $50 million this season On maintenance and repairs Under maintenance and repairs Paint jobs are included Fixing like a howling haunt thing Is also under that budget Like all those like additional things that enthusiasts love Painting hand railings and all that Those are under maintenance and repairs Let's say Wonderland has a lot of wind seeker Repairs that they need to do And they start eating with the budget And then Leviathan's lift motor gets blown And stuff like that If you end up with $0 left in your maintenance and repair You are going to ask Cedar Fair To either extend your budget Or you aren't going to cancel things Like a paint job on a roller coaster And stuff like that Or move it back So that's what happens It all comes down to Behemoth is supposed to get repainted In spring of 2024 So we'll see A paint job on a coaster like Behemoth is expensive It's a lot A lot of money I would guess probably in the millions Like I'm going to guess like 1.5 million Oh yeah Oh yeah Easy I think someone said 3 million or something last time it got painted But who knows with inflation How much did Do we know how much Phantom's revenge cost? I think more comparable would be Diamondback Which is still ongoing Yeah But that would be more But I don't think we have a price on Diamondbacks Because if we're talking like high up Compared to the Phantom's revenge Which is just on terrain basically But I will say After having a conversation With someone really high up at Wonderland The park What they spent on beautifying the park During the last off season More specifically spring Is supposed to happen again In spring 2024 So the park I can't see them cancelling any of those Because I was specifically told That they plan to continue doing All those nice modifications And making the park beautiful Almost every season now So it seems like Cedar Fair Again has their eyes set on Wonderland To become a destination park And if they continue down that route Well you're going to see a lot of investments coming And a lot of changes too You're going to see a lot of rides That don't necessarily make sense in a theme park Realm continuing on Guardian does make sense in a theme park realm though It really does If they if they fix her up If it was done well The dark rides are in my opinion are really important So I think if you get Guardian working properly That's like really good for the park Yeah if you get all the seats operating Basically if it's not stupid and broken I agree I think we the year it opened I was so excited Because I was like we need this This is perfect and then I got on And then I got off and I was like what was that? So I think yeah if it got the TLC that it deserves It could be really good Is zombies 40 even happening again? Or I have no idea I'm going to find out more information really early tomorrow morning SeaWorld Orlando is about to get B&M's version of Guardian I'm actually really excited to see B&M's new family coaster for SeaWorld I love SeaWorld Orlando that's a great park You think we got a lot of B&M's Except all of their B&M's are good Yeah and they have a flying coaster I'd try to like Leviathan, Behemoth, and Yukon Stryker for a good flying coaster Mako's a masterpiece Mantas a masterpiece Krakens less or so of a masterpiece But Masterpiece nonetheless I haven't ridden my pipeline Apparently We have an update on the zombies 40 thing MrExcellent in the Patreon chat says that it is on the website Okay and the website was recently just updated so Let's see how accurate my sources are Is the bin system actually going to be installed on Guardian And Does that mean it's going to be closed for a while? I don't think so They're doing a really quick Like it's not going to be ready this weekend Like they only got the support If you ride it If you go ride it this weekend You should see some black columns that are being installed With small support struts It's going to be ugly actually I mean the rest of the ride My theory is that they're doing this to get ready for the zombies 40 I don't know I just feel like there's no point in doing this If you're not going to improve the ride And why add something to it If you're trying to be like You know Top of the line theme park That's that's not properly themed Like don't just put black supports Put theme supports Any of my Patreons You guys have seen the photos So you know how ugly what I'm talking about You have a question from Patreon chat Are they able to join the stream tonight or no? Yes If someone wants to pop in Ask a question We're going to we're going to keep them to like one or two questions We obviously don't want to keep everyone in here But yeah If you want to come on in and ask a question Come in and ask a question or two My phone is at seven percent And then They've got a Patreon voice chat And then Jake will drag you in Jake is our bouncer Yeah My internet doesn't work I can't disconnect Go over there So So do we all agree on that on 2025 What we think it's going to be I think yeah It looks pretty Settled now But that still leads to the question of What else are they saying for 2024 Does that mean that we're thinking The whitewater refurbished 2024? Yeah, that's I feel like maybe This rumored budget Is the combination of the two And then that would make more sense Hi, Iced How are you? Good, how about you? I'm good, I'm good All right What question do you have or questions? Yeah, so I have a little bit of like It's like really weird Because like I don't have any like But it's like You know how wonderland It's sort of like the prototype park for Cedar Fair Yeah Yeah So I think that The inverted coaster Coming on the mountain I know we're talking about the entire GCI thing But what if Cedar Fair was planning a prototype In new inverted launch coaster From Manufacturer that they really haven't worked with Because I think Um, obviously SNS is prototype their axis coaster a little bit Um, and I think that would work perfectly with what wonderland would need sort of Yeah, I get what you're kind of saying So the again It was a survey, right? And it was hardly any details in the picture But the description was very key on wing coaster So that's the only thing that would counter me to think I do think that wonderland created those images with AI And then kind of had someone enhance them to look more Just because it was an invert in the picture But the description said launch wing coaster through the caverns of wonder mountain Blah blah blah But I do agree I wish I wish it was something else In terms of the manufacturer There's still a great chance that it could be a different manufacturer Um, I do think though with wonderland's track record They're probably nbnm's pockets right now being like how much Unfortunately This is also the third time that we've had AI mentioned on the stream about coaster concept art Um, we know that if this was the case it wouldn't be the only time because just recently Six Flags America made their announcement And they it's confirmed actually used AI for their announcement Okay, I'm gonna say Wonderland did not use AI You can look at the images. You can see brush strokes The one of the blast coaster was actually using an actual photo of wonder mountain drawn over Six Flags America on the other hand did use AI and I'm unbelievably disappointed in them It like for Six Flags America. It's 100% AI It's been coming way more. I can't tell you the amount of ads that are fully AI I have it. Let me drop it. Sorry someone asked And for anyone wanted to join the discord server the invite link is just Amusement insiders you could go to discord you can type in your link discord discord.gg Slash amusement insiders and it'll take you straight to the server. There's no fancy code with a bunch of letters and numbers It's just amusement insiders. It'll take you straight to the server Yeah, all right iced any more questions Oh, no, not really. I mean How about this? What are your thoughts On the the potential for a gci family coaster and that whole area. What are your thoughts? You could be as honest as you want. You don't have to like Yeah I have to go right now. No worries. No, no, don't apologize All right. Have a good one All right, we have a another patron coming in All right, thanks iced for coming in here and asking questions Someone died. Oh, mr. Excellent. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good Okay, you can hear me well. Yeah, we can hear you. Well So I have a hot question Oh Is that good? Yeah Yeah, that's good. That's good That we have now way more haunted houses than scare zones because I know you talked about in 2021 season that they were looking to have more scare zones and houses But now that it's changed. What are your thoughts on that? Okay, so I actually have the answer to this so Wonderland received a really poor response to What they did last year for haunt A lot of people didn't like that there weren't a lot of haunted houses So it seems like now they were averting that Um, I know Hopefully this doesn't get me in trouble But a wonderland is still deciding where scare zones are going in the park like they are last minute like Okay, we're gonna put this scare zone there. We're gonna put this scare zone here So, um What can I say? I know that vampire disco is gonna be over by What's that restaurant the 90s diner or whatever Uh backlaw Coasters coasters. It's gonna be over by coasters. Um, and then it looks like The scare zone that's over by flight deck normally isn't listed as coming back this year But they're setting up lights where that scare zone is so it's it's really confusing Um, what they're gonna do with haunt. Um, it seems like they were like last minute trying to do stuff like For example trick-or-treat street. They're listing as a haunted house And I have really good sources that should know the answer and I was told trick-or-treat street was just gonna be like a scare zone, but like if you do you guys remember the The scare zone by vert the vertical loop to yukon how it was like a scare zone, but it had like walls and stuff Like a lot. Yeah But it's a few times in the past Yeah, but it still wasn't listed as like a haunted house My understanding was trick-or-treat street was supposed to be like that and they're listing it as a haunted house though So I thought that was a little a little shady But we'll see if i'm wrong. Maybe they decided to fully build a haunted house, but where like I there's no new haunt structure um so That's all I know for houses are there supposed to be this year that we know of There was supposed to be I think they actually went one short And that's why they're listing trick-or-treat street as a haunted house because they only announced kingdom of carnage was a returning one dark ride was a new one And necro something is another new one Necropolis So kingdom of carnage is a returning one. It's actually really good It's in the picnic pavilion behind riptide and dragon fire if they do it again there, which I'm assuming is where sorry They're listing me as a scare zone Kingdom of carnage is a scare zone Yeah, I think you're mixing it up with the crypt the one that's No For those of you who've been to haunt a lot kingdom of carnage was a haunted house. Was it not? What it was I'm not saying I'm pretty sure kingdom of carnage was a scare zone. No, it was all at the gate No, I remember my kingdom of carnages. It's the area with the like the castle theater and all right Doe, but the name kingdom carnage Yeah, last year, but was it wasn't kingdom of carnage a haunted house behind dragon fire in previous years It makes this a little bit confusing to be honest with you Because it starts with haunt attractions where it has dark ride and trick-or-treat street like big But then you scroll down and it has menacing mazes and they're not listed there. So they're just attractions. What does that mean? And then it has scare zones separate from that again one two three four five scare zones There was a two three four five Five mazes and then those two that aren't really specified There was definitely a haunted house themed to medieval And it was there was two haunted houses club blood and kingdom of carnage. They were behind dragon fire um So there was also bloodshed back there one year. Yeah, they moved it back there used to be in kingswood. Um, but That's that's even more interesting because then that takes away. They promised us Do you remember when they said that there were supposed to be three new haunted houses? So there's only two I do think that Yeah, unless they're counting That that's why they're that's why they're counting trick. Yeah It's just weird to label two of them as attractions. Like what does that even mean? um interesting so I do know that Pumpkin eater is on site at wonderland as well. That's not coming out this year. That'll probably be next year We're getting a bunch of parks haunted houses. Um, so it seems like wonderland Wonderland's also hiring uh full time. Um, so wonderland has a department that not a lot of people know about It's like imagining but like But like the uh the dollar rama version of imaginary Great value. The one you're looking for is great value Great value imagineers But that's not to install. It's a really talented department. Um, if they were given the proper budget Ha Like Like I know like I know I know some of the people on this team And like they're really talented and if I could only imagine but I'm hoping I've heard some rumors that wonderland is actually hiring full-time people to this team So if that's true, that means they have intentions to expand and with us receiving All these haunted houses that are still in shipping containers and not being developed yet From other parks that tells me that the other parks aren't increasing their haunted houses But wonderland is so really like honestly like this is a bold statement I really think cedar fair is showing that they have an eye on wonderland Like that they are like wonderland to me. That's been obvious for a while Yeah Thank you. Yes kingdom was amazed in 2013. Am I showing my age right now? Yes Wow, you wow brandon 2013. Oh my gosh That was so long ago. Oh my gosh. Wow The year after leviathan That was so recent Mr. Excellent. Are there any more questions? Did I answer all your questions? Oh my god. I got so sidetracked Don't worry. Don't worry. Yeah. No music. Thank you very much. What are your thoughts on the gci? honestly like I think Sure, like, you know the the area looks really really nice Like we should definitely get some change and get some actual feeling like kind of like not so We'll see how it goes. Hopefully it's a little bit different than zambizi a little bit more thrilling but Yeah, I agree Yeah, oh actually I saw someone in chat say this earlier. They said zambizi is actually pretty intense I have heard good reviews from zambizi zinger Why are you laughing? You're not allowed to laugh you have a loss of coaster. You have iron I'm laughing because every time I'm laughing because every time you guys bring up any of these rides being thrilling Ryan starts to like so I see smoke coming from his Uh, that's what you're lying here is anything about any gci in the world being thrilling. He's like I'm gonna get there. They call the gci thrilling not a water fish How dare you call gci thrilling I have four percent eyes Oh Four percent left We can only see the time Oh, is there any other patreons that want to join before my phone goes by? The stream might end itself No, so I it won't end. I just won't be able to hear you guys anymore. That's all that'll happen Yeah, we're all gonna die So we can like take over and you don't even know it He can talk but yeah, he just can't hear it. We won't be able to hear us. That might be funny Take over the stream. Yeah, sorry guys. It's my stream now Nikki you have to join discord. Do you have discord? Get a charger. See the problem is I can't because the headphone you need a splitter charger That's what you need somebody somebody gift Brendan a charger splitter Nobody doesn't have a wireless charger Brendan, I'm gonna have to make you go jealous Wait, is this a wireless charger? What is that? That looks like it's a battery or a fire That's about to burn your house according according to you that charger has had more thrills than you want a gci so Oh, he has a charger. It's just not wireless Um All right, is that it for today? Oh, wait, nicky if you're in discord join the vc and then someone can go screen you quickly I he doesn't have you're doing it. He doesn't He might not have patreon roll yet, but I can confirm he is a patreon the nicky guy. Okay Let's join any voice chat and then i'll drag you to patreon voice chat and Mr. Jake from mcdonald's the hit fast food brand mcdonald's will screen you Okay, does anyone recognize him full honesty anyone in the chat recognize jake up here Because he's starting to get recognized where he works All right. Yeah, just join me No Just imagine like Oh our ice cream machine isn't working right now. Are you from amusement insiders? He looks different world's most famous mcdonald's employee Does he work at subway across? Oh, okay, so for future reference I recognize them. All right. Well before my phone dies. I'm gonna plug her in. I just died Um, I'll be in discord Here he gets the newsletter Uh, the five dollars here. I'm gonna make it easy. I'm deleting the one dollar one. Um tonight Uh It does say the one dollar one does say what you get and it it thing but the five dollar plus gets everything Um There is something i'm gonna be doing soon It is on there. You should probably update that No, it it's it's on there Gazzak Um, it doesn't clearly say what you get. Okay, it does you have to put it It's patreon You get discord access, but which part of discord? It's our mystery Is that everything? three four five What's what are we counting? In the next 10 years, how many coasters you think one of them gets three four five six Okay, I think we are gonna be getting a coaster every Other year for a bit like I think we're gonna have like a gap year in between coasters doesn't mean exciting coasters Um as you can see eight coasters ryan eight coasters That would make sense because I would mean a coaster on the 50th anniversary year. Yeah It'd be cool that if we don't get a Boomerang for our 50th like a certain other All right, if we do get a coaster blasting out of the mountain it will be for the 50th Yeah, all right. My phone's at three percent. So Thanks for joining us tonight Bye guys coasters in the next