 Now, the political quagmire in the Labour Party took another dimension yesterday as the former Deputy National Chairman of the Labour Party, Kalistus Ujo-Kaafor, has described the presidential ambition of former Anambara state governor, Pitao B, as still contentious. In an interview with journalist yesterday in Abuja, Kalistus Ujo-Kaafor, who is currently challenging the constitutionality of the Abur-led working committee of the party in the court said, the readiness of his faction's national working committee to open discussions with the former governor, Pitao B, who had emerged as the candidate of the Julius Abur-led faction of the party insisted that he had nothing against the person of Dr. Pitao B, but maintained that the former governor was in the faction of the party whose leadership was allegedly not recognised by the Labour Party's constitution, arding that the constitution of the party recognises him as the acting national chairman of the Labour Party, following the sacking of its late chairman, Abdul Qadir Abdul-Salam. And joining us once again is Dr. Unisa Salisutanko, he's a national chairman of NCP and spokesman of the NC Front. Dr, I hope you can hear me now. Yes, I can hear you, Dr. Klaio. Perfect. So again, I asked the question, why is the situation in the Labour Party yet to be addressed, especially when Dr. Pitao B seems to be the flag bearer of the party and has so much following? Why is the rift within the party yet to be dealt with? Well, as far as we are concerned, our Calistus Okafor case is dead on a level because he himself has been expelled from the party and at the same time, the period in which he's even asking for has already been overtaken by events. We have it on authority, where Okafor said he is no longer a member of the party. So it's because the popularity of the Labour Party under the able leadership of Barista Julius Aburi and now our presidential candidate, Pitao B, that Calistus is now growing wings and saying that he is the chairman of the party. The question you want to ask Calistus is, where was he some couple of years ago when the party was already on gun and searching for candidates? Why is it that it is known that it comes so you can understand that there are people trying to use him to cause problem within the Labour Party? But we can assure him that I recognize the leadership of Barista Aburi and then the candidate of Pitao B, these issues as he said are in the front of the court to deal with. So we are not part of at all, we are going on with our candidature and INEC has not said anything. So as far as we are concerned, he is one creating the faction, we don't have a faction. We have one political party under the leadership of Barista Aburi, adopted by the National Consultation Fund, supported by the Nigerian people and we are cruising to the villa by the grace of God. Now there have been rumours that he had collected a set amount of 15 million Naira to redraw the case that he instituted against the Labour Party and he is saying that that is incorrect. I would like to quote him directly, he is saying I am fighting for my right, I am fighting for justice. Mr Pitao B left the People's Democratic Party because of the injustice that was carried out against him there. Now he also goes on to say if Pitao B could dump the PDP for Labour Party in order to get justice, he should consider the case of someone who is looking for justice. What do you have to say about that? There was no any issue raised by Comrade Pitao B in the PDP. He does understand that he would not be given a fair chance of running for the presidential candidate under that particular PDP, but rather he chose a political party that is aligning with the acceleration of the people, the Nigerian people. That was why he came to the Labour Party. So there was not anything about injustice. As far as we are concerned, I think Okafor is trying to benefit from where he did not work for. He is trying to reap from where he did not sow and that is not fair. So he that is asking for equity must come with clean hands. So as far as we are concerned. So when you say that someone is trying to reap from where he did not sow, this is a man that you met in the Labour Party. This is a man that had been in the Labour Party. When you say he is trying to reap where he didn't sow, he has been in the Labour Party. If we are looking at it literally, is that really correct? Is that really fair to say to him? Yes, because when you remember there was a convention that took place in Mina, when the party noticed that he is double dealing and is causing problems within the line, he was first of all suspended, then later on expelled from the party. These are records, they are there. So in that case, where was he, was he part of the building up to get to this particular level? Obviously no. So that is why we say he is trying to reap from where he did not sow because if you listen to him, he is always saying that he is open for discussion. What kind of discussion? He should be fair to every son and country that we are building a movement and those that will benefit from this particular movement are the Nigerian people and that is what he is trying to deny them off. So the Nigerian people should rise up in unism against Oceania, for trying to cause problems within the ranks of the Labour Party. That is where unfairness comes from, it is unjust and it is kind of detrimental to the collective acceleration of the Nigerian people. Now he looks like he is not backing down, I will tell you why. Now in an interview that was granted to him by the press, he said that the supporters of Dr Orbi, that is the obedient people, had come to him to demand a settlement of sorts and he asked where he was going to start from. Now he starts to talk about how much he spent, he said that he had spent 48 million on a case, on the case that he has been dragging in courts so far. He said he sold one of his houses in Oceania and he is ready to sell another in following up this case. So do you see this backing down and do you see this becoming a problem for the Labour Party going forward, knowing that there is a lot at stake here? Well for us, we understand that he is being used by other political parties who notice that the name of Dr Orbi is soaring high and they have to look for any way they can to cause or demean the movement that we are already doing. So that is why we know and we are not part of but we will take him on fully according to the position of law. Nobody told him to sell his properties, we did not ask him to sell the property and I will wish you go to action. Where was he some couple of years ago, please, if he has been shared to himself, where was this a couple of years ago? But in any case, this particular matter is in the court of law. So we will allow the court to take just decision on the matter. Okay, well that case is coming up sometime in I think the 8th of July apparently. He said that he has brought in two senior advocates of Nigeria and he says he is accusing those who are in the faction of Dr Orbi of collecting sums of money, huge sums of money and that is why they are trying to suppress his case. But let us move away from that quickly. Dr Angol Abdullahi has also spoken about Orbi's candidacy and he said that he might do well in fixing Nigeria. But then he also said that it might be a difficult task for Dr Orbi. Now let us look at the vice presidency, the vice, the running mate situation. We heard reports yesterday that there was an unveiling of a new running mate for Dr Orbi as opposed to Dony Okope who was a placeholder. Can you give us an update on that? Well first of all let me thank our revered professor, Professor Angol Abdullahi on his good words on our candidacy. I think the board is catching up more clearly in the north on the telling them that yes we are ready to rescue Nigeria and anybody who will believe in that will join us in this movement. So we are welcoming our Northern Elders Forum on board in this particular train, unstable train that is heading towards the villa. Then on the issue of this unveiling of the vice president, I made an interview some couple of days ago and we alluded to the fact that the unveiling would take place in three days ago to Friday which is tomorrow. And the event will have taken place today because of domestic challenges. It has been postponed to tomorrow by 10 a.m. God's willing. Peter Orbi will unveil the official flag banner that will run with him in 2023. At the moment now we have submitted a withdrawal letter to INEC by Chief Doi Nkukui who have served this particular movement diligently, consciously, with a lot of determination. We want to thank him for his resilience. We thank him for all of the confidence we have in him and then to supporting this movement to this particular level. So he has sent his withdrawal letter and then the substantive run minutes will be submitted to INEC accordingly. Let me just push you a little further. Whoever this person you're unveiling is, one would be curious. What's the political stretch and the spread that this said running mate has that would aid the Labour Party and Dr. Pitobi to be able to garner more votes across the Niger onto the other side where he may not be as famous and of course as popular? You will only be famous and be dogged based on your records. As far as we are concerned, we have made all the threshold and the normal criteria that is required for an individual to run with Peter Orbi. The person in question is a Muslim and is coming from the North. As far as that is established, he can gather his votes as far as from Sokoto to Meduguri and Tetoninda, Benwe and Kuala states, representing the North Central, North West and North East. And that is OK for us. And when we move in that direction, we will be able to gather a lot of votes that is required. But don't forget, we have always been leveraging on the Nigerian youth who have come out in massive support. Then secondly, we are leveraging on the Labour movements, the TUC, the NLC. Then thirdly, we are leveraging on other political parties who have had to join us in this particular race. So that way we have an humongous structure on the ground with large followers, which is supported heavily by the Nigerian youth. Now, it's one thing to have a movement and followers. It's another to have a structure on ground in every single part of the country. And these are arguments that have been had on different forums, especially when being compared to the two major political parties that have a spread. Now, the reason why I ask that question about the candidates who you're going to be unveiling tomorrow and what their spread is, you started by saying that, oh, he's a Muslim and he's from the North. Is that really enough politically speaking to win an election? Because of course, whoever the running mate is would be an added advantage. And of course, whatever his base is would also be an added advantage to the flag bearer. So again, I ask, what is his spread politically? He has his own structure. And we are going to leverage on the structure together with what we have. You know, we are not oblivion of the fact that, strategically, we have to be felt in every nook and cranny of this country. And we're going to put a strategy in motion. Interestingly, Nigerian people also have come up to say that they are the structure of Rita Obi. We are running an unconventional campaign that is different from the ones we've already had over the years. It is people's driven. And once the people drive these particular phones, you don't need any structure, you don't need to go home and sleep. But as far as we are concerned, we will do the nitty gritty. We will do due diligence. And we will ensure that every part of this country feel our presence so that we can be able to win this election, free fear and swear. Finally, let's talk about the labor movement that you mentioned and, of course, the TUC and they're declaring their support for your party. What has been the activities that the labor movement and, of course, the TUC, what are they doing, aside from just declaring their support for the party? Will they have a responsibility within the party? Well, for your information, the Labor Congress and the TUC have a political commission led by some part of the leadership of the labor movement. And they have structure in all the local government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. And that is a basic support. And, two, the labor movement have also declared support for Peter Obie. Not only did they do that, they also unveiled the Charter of Demand and the document of policy of the TUC as part of the document that will form the manifesto of Peter Obie based on the manifesto also of the labor party. So you can see they're already doing systematic approach to the campaign already. And we will assure you that the day we are unveiling the Vice Presidential Candidate or running me, the labor movement will be in place and to show their support physically. So that way, nobody will be under the question that whether the labor movement is part of this or not. They will be physically present at that particular ceremony. Finally, the obedient movement, the hashtag, the ones who are online, offline. I saw a post from the flag bearer of the labor party speaking about them not attacking people or attacking people's opinions. That's on the one side. On the other hand, it's great to have a movement online, but offline. What is the labor party doing to engage more and more young people and not only supposing that, oh, well, because we have this much of a movement on social media, that would be the same, that would be replicated on the day of elections at the polling units. Is there more of a voter education and, of course, one-on-one sort of meet with these people to get them more and more involved as opposed to just being on social media? Is there a realistic, unground movement? We have a lot of encouragement from the Nigerian youth. Just about yesterday, a lady called me from Kaduna telling me that they've already formulated a group of volunteers. At the moment, they have more than 150,000 people, Nigerian youth, ready to volunteer into that particular contest. And secondly, we have also established that the campaign organization will cut across the nook and cranny of this country. And let me inform you also, we are very strategic in our movement. If you remember the statistic very well, in 2019, we have the registered voters of 83 million people. What ended up as a result at that time was that Tera Muhammad Abu Ari won with 15 million votes. Where the second person, Atiku Abu Bakar, came second with about 11 million, totaling closer with the other political parties, it totaled out about 33 million. So when you minus the 3 million from the 3 million, you have 50 million undecided voters. And that is our target. So we are reaching out to the undecided voters plus those young ones who have come of age, who have registered now, and that will form the focum of our target voters audience. And we are reaching out to them one on one. But of course, you will not expect me to tell you all of our strategy. But basically, we are going to reach out to everybody concerned, even our enemy, who try to change in for the benefit of Nigeria. Always a pleasure speaking with you, Dr. Unisa Salisu Tango is the national chairman of NCP and the spokesman of NC France. She's also a member of the Labour Party. Thank you so much for speaking with us. Thank you. All right. Well, that's it on the show tonight. We'll be back tomorrow talking for developments with the biggest stories in the political scene in Nigeria and of course across Africa. I'm Mary Anakon. Have a good evening.