 Thanks. Nice to meet you everyone. I really like this introduction. I think we should start with introduction. It doesn't matter if we are 50 people next time, but I think it's a good way of starting, because I liked learning about actually what you do and understanding how aware you are or familiar you are of Vargos. Today's meeting is very casual. We don't have much to present. We would like to inform you about what's coming next month, so about four core functionalities that are coming in Argos and about an event that is coming that you can also participate. But before doing that, I understand that some participants would like to know more about Argos, so maybe I can quickly demo the very simple, let's say, flow of creating your DMP in Argos. So let me quickly do that. First I need to share the correct window. It's wrong, right? No, it's not. Can you see the screen? I don't know what you're saying. Yes, yes, we can see it. Yes. Argos, right? Not the other one, because I have Yes, we can see Argos.ovenero.eu. Okay, good. Right, so this is the landing page of Argos. You can have a look later. We are working with my colleague Maria as you saw today. We're working on redesigning this website, so we will have a new landing page during before the summer, around the summer. But for now, if you want to enter the tool, it's by clicking the start your DMP or the login, and then there are different options to choose to log in from. You do not sign up in Argos, so we do not store any passwords and nothing, we just borrow them from external providers like Google, like Orchid, so we take your credentials from there. And the tip is if you want to log in with your institutional account, sorry, credentials, then that is possible if you select opener. And then you will be redirected here. And if I choose another account and choose to sign in with Edge again, then I can search my institution that was already with Athena. I can search my institution and add my credentials and login with my institutional credentials. So this is something that a lot of people ask, how can I do it? This is how you can do it. So if you're not logged in, you can still use, I mean, browse Argos. Mainly you can browse the public DMPs that are available from other colleagues in working in different domains. They have shared them openly. You can find them here and you can also check them on ZNoro, download them and, you know, consult them. Also, you can see the descriptions for the different outputs that they have created, that these are associated with these plants, these DMPs. So let's go to home and let's actually login. Victory, I will use Google for me because I have everything synced there. And now I can see more possibilities. I can see that besides of the public dashboard with plants and descriptions, I can also see my activity, my dashboards, my plants and my descriptions. So you notice that we don't, we are moving away from using the term DMP because we see that software management plans are also popping up and even other types of output are requested by policies or are encouraged by communities to be described in the DMP. So because the DMP purpose is expanding to support different types of outputs and activities and actors, that's why we have, we're moving away, as I mentioned, from referring to DMPs to referring to them as plans. And for us, a plan might have a description of a data set, a description of software. Both of them, only one of them, it doesn't matter. It depends on the needs of the research project. So it's very versatile how you want to use them. Right, so here you can see my dashboard. I have some plants with the descriptions of its plan inside. And if I want to create my own, I click start new plan from here. And I choose start wizard. The import from file is very advanced. It's a specific modification of an JSON file that should be read by the, by this import mechanism so that it's uploaded. So it's very specific to RDA, common standard in particular. It's not used commonly because you need to structure the JSON file according to this specification. But if you want to start from scratch as you would normally do, following the steps and answering the questions, you click start. And then for those of you who have used it in the past, you see that this screen has changed. This is not a screen that redirects to many, many fields as we had before. But it's a common, let's say, screen with two fields that ask for descriptive metadata of the DMP. So title, plan, description of plan. And once we give that, we select the type of blueprint we want this plan to have. The blueprint is the structure of the whole plan. So if we have, if we have a project that should have descriptions for both software and data sets, for example, then we create a blueprint that combines both these plans, software management plans and data management plans. And you can select this blueprint, let's say from here, this is a good example, Chisterra. Chisterra is a consortium of national funders funding ICT projects in Europe. And they have a good example of a blueprint that combines both software management plans and data management plans. So let me use that and click next. You see that the structure that the blueprint has is, has some basic information about the plan, the license, because we want at the end, the DMP to have a license so that it's applied some of the third principle so that it's findable, accessible, reusable. And to be reusable, it should have a license. We recommend the creative commons, the creative commons for CC by attribution where others can reuse our DMP, but we get acknowledged for sharing it openly and having it available to others. We can add funding and we have two sections where we can describe the content regarding data since software. So let's, let's take it from scratch though, from the start, sorry. I gave the title before and the description of the plan before so it's kept, it's prefilled here. I can add the researchers that are going to work on the DMP. So these are, for example, we will say and I can find them with their orchid. I can search them with their orchid or if I cannot find them with the orchid I can insert manually. Maybe they have a researcher ID or other identifiers and I can add them here. Same with affiliations. I can select from the list of sources that we harvest from open air and for example, select thinner, if I couldn't find it again, same thing, insert it manually. Change the language if I want to write the DMP in a different language. And when I invite my colleagues to help me with filling this information of this DMP then this will become, this contact field will become a dropdown where I can select which of those invited colleagues can serve as the contact point for this particular DMP. So now it's me because I haven't shared it with anyone. I'm the only one. I'm the owner and the only person that has access to it. But if I share it with all of you then this will become a list with all of you and I can select who is going to be the contact point. License. I gave a license to my DMP already, oops, sorry, already. And access rights is, again, we want others to be able to find the DMPs so that they can see, they can get the whole picture of the management activities, research management activities in the project if it's available. So if we're not talking about sensitive data, for example, sensitive information, sorry. We keep it restricted as we write the DMP and if we want to open it up to others we choose open access. So for sure before depositing the DMP we recommend to switch to open access. When you switch at the same time the DMP becomes available under public plans as we saw before and when it's deposited it's openly available like this to others so that they can download and check the metadata. Under funding we just add the funder and that will be Cistero for here and the grant from Cistero so which project that this grant for the project. If I cannot find it again I always have the option to insert it manually. Let's save it just to be sure that nothing will be lost. And then moving on to the fourth to the fourth section is where I can start adding content for the datasets of the project that will be produced, reduced or collected. If I click add then I have the option to pre-fill or manually insert information so pre-fill for example hopefully this will be the trick. Yeah this is from the API that we are using. Okay so pre-fill would pre-fill this the title description and some content but otherwise you can always manually add it title of dataset description about the about the dataset you can add some tags and when you select the template again just to verify then the whole content appears so you can see that this these are the sections that are asked for me to answer one to seven and I can start answering them by selecting from you know drop-down lists from adding narratives making hyperlinks even oops making hyperlinks point to extender's references and I can start you know also reading the instructions or guidance that might be available under its question and answering and then when I'm ready I can save and close and I can continue with creating more descriptions for more datasets or dataset collections or I can also if I have a software go to the next section do the same for a software that I'm creating so add basic information like title and description of the software and then move on to again answering questions for the software management like if there's documentation available and other relevant testing and to reproducibility and to interoperability questions and when I am ready I save it and I can see everything under my plans there it is and I can export it in different formats pdf document xml and rda json this is very specific to the rda standard that we are using so that the dmps at the end so the plans at the end this this at the end is interoperable add a new description at any point invite more people to like my colleagues to help I can invite Maria for example and give her owner co-ownership to edit this dmp or member does to view and I can clone the dmp event if I want to repurpose some of the parts of the dmp like the software or the dataset so maybe I want to repurpose only the software check this and I save it and then that this new dmp has only the the software description and nothing else and if I go back again I can see I can continue editing I can add more descriptions I can finalize it start always a new version of my dmp which is linked to the one that I already created so if I go back now I see two versions 0 and 1 and they are linked okay and I can finalize it I can finalize for example maybe the dmp with only the software submit it and if I click deposit now provided that I have of course all the metadata completed during the writing process I click deposit select Zenodo and the possibilities are the options are two logging with Zenodo if you have your credentials which we recommend because this will this means that you are also the author in the Zenodo record or use our credential to push this information to Zenodo so either we do it for you with a token or you do it with just logging in with your credentials and then I don't want to push anything now but we saw before and already ready version so when I click deposit then immediately I have this this box with the EOI and I can visit what I created which is again we've had that already open this this is how it works maybe we have questions from people but it's the first time looking at how are this works I have no question neither in the chat or in the google doc however maybe Ali we can clarify the different usage of Argos between researchers and administrators yes there's also the possibility to create your own blueprints templates and structures basically of how you want the plan to be at the end with which questions content and order of sections and everything you can do it but you need more rights you need to be admins as you said Julia and for that when you do that we will give you access and you can see all I mean you can see this new functionalities that appear when you're an admin or a template editor even and you can start with creating your own template and yes it's I don't know if I should now go into this demoing how the admin works but we have yes Monica and I ask about the then how to sign in and if for like researchers in certain institutions can they create their own account or how does it work no that you don't sign up to Argos you just sign in so if you want you still see my screen right yes okay good so if you want to use your institutional credentials then you click on the opener let me maximize that you click choose another account sign in with edge again and then it's signing in you know finding the institution that you want from the list and selecting it and then adding your credentials okay here I need to work to see if it works for us if it doesn't we should configure we should change some configurations yes we we receive yes we are doing that for other institutions as well thank you thank you in the case you have um unit help you can write to the appdesk dot open air dot to you and just to say that we are going to have this maybe that's a good opportunity to say that we are going to have a new release of Argos uh next month probably late uh april early may uh because we want to have some run some good tests on it and you will have more you will have a different login page but you will still be able to log in with your institutional accounts and credentials and we will we will have another community goal where we'll go through every new feature when this releases up but for what's coming now you saw what's there today but for what is coming let me switch can you see still on my screen with the mentee yes oh good perfect why don't I see okay then I created a mentee um where I'm just for fun uh you can the presenter move okay thank you and I have added like four let's say functionalities that are coming next month to which I'm going to tell you what they are going to be about and so how they will enhance what we already saw today and I would like your feedback not me only but the whole team would like your feedback because we still have time to make changes so if we if you want something to be seen in a particular or made in a particular way we still have time to modify things before we release everything so a lot of people have been requesting reviewing options so they would like to be able to review a dmp and not just edited and and we have been receiving we have been collecting all this requests and now it's the time we have worked on a reviewing functionality where you will be able to as you write the dmp to also make comments as annotations let's say to a specific point in the dmp that you want for example question one about data formats you can make a comment there and give you know your feedback to the dmp authors about what they could do to enhance maybe use more open formats and so on so we are going to have this reviewing functionality and yes we want to know your thoughts do you think this is something that will help you as well were you part of the group that requested it it's good to know and how would you like the reviewing to be should it be a different screen for example should it be embedded inside the argus area where we saw before that you can where you write your input how would be more convenient you can maybe i did something that i don't know no this is you looks like you need to moderate the questions but there are no questions right oh enable questions okay enable comments okay now i think i enabled them sorry did i can you write okay let me say test okay i wrote the test but nothing is up interesting i think i should change to another story it's the first time that i'm also using this moderation thing why did i do it like that anyway can i choose who can be a reviewer so we split it's a proof first so that we all see it okay okay now i know how it looks good so the question is can i choose who can be a reviewer and yes you can choose it during the invitation so you saw where where i clicked invite and i invited my colleague maria to join me in writing the dmp i i had only two options so this option will be enhanced and you will have a reviewing also option so there you can invite people that will become the reviewers this is um yeah this is how the functionalities for example do you want to see um where would you like to see a history of the comments left would you like to have a dedicated space inside argus where you see everything would you like to who should be able to resolve even the these comments is it only the owner is it the co-owner so people invited with editing rights do you mean something like a github revision in which you can suggest the revision or like um like some publication venue when you have a letter from a reviewer that is like next to the venue and you can read what the reviewer is saying yes like a word document for example what you open and you find the comments but then they disappear right do we want them to be like that for example in word if you resolve them and delete them then they disappear do we want the same here do we want to keep them somewhere i think it's interesting to have a reviewer um that can be uh i don't know the supervisor i could leak or even outside the the group but it also depends if the reviewer should be the project officer for instance mm-hmm so yes it depends correct how can i decide who can be uh the project officer cannot do their perform the review on argus i mean they they want the an exported and file you know an exported form of the dnp okay so the question could be after uh if i received the comment from the project officer uh and maybe at the first time i'm not asking a reviewer um then after the second the second dnp revised can i ask in that moment another reviewer you can ask he he can invite reviewers at any time this is what you mean yes yes at any time it doesn't yeah it doesn't matter yeah okay okay let me move on to the next so again we have been receiving some requests for the email notifications that we send when a dnp or a plan such as Manson fund or whatever it is uh is updated so when you update it you receive notifications and the whole team actually uh every time you click save we have minimized that in the past but what we are going to do now is we're going to collect all these notifications and instead of sending them via email we're going to introduce a notification space in in in argus this is what in app means so in the argus you will have a bell where you can see if there are new notifications and then if you click it you will be able to see all the changes performing different plans that you are either the owner or the co-owner or the reviewer and for the dnp or the plan for any of your activity inside argus and and we're going to keep the email notifications sent every we're going to see every day is the last discussion that we had we're going to see the every day at the end of the day a summary of the new changes happened in this plan do you think that this aligns with your with your needs as well is it better to have this option to have inside argus notification you know the bell click it see what what changes instead of receiving emails i'll take that as a i'll take this as yes and i'll move on to the next okay the pre-filling functionality currently is been enhanced and that's why we couldn't use it fully today um because uh because um what you will be able now to do is select from which source you want to fulfill the dnp uh actually a particular section of a dnp so for example if you have a section and a template that is only about ethics and you have and you have a source inside your institution maybe that you want to connect to this dnp you have a source where you keep this ethics report let's say inside your cms your system the universe system we can use this form to pre-fill already the dnp with some information around ethics that are asked in the dnp so we can start making these connections with other um sources both sources from repos like repositories for example that we can link the data set and get the metadata of the data set to pre-fill parts of the dnp or even an ethics report for example if it's available uh we can also do that and since i mean until the day the pre-filling functionality works only for repositories and this is changing so if you are an admin for example on argos you will be able to select each time which source you want to pre-fill to use to pre-fill the dnp with information maybe from other departments across your university and then lastly i think it's a fourth right we have we'll have no detentancy a lot of our you know our users and maybe you also have been requesting their own space inside argos.opener.eu but their own space also not only in terms of storage but also in terms of look and feel so for example they would like to be able when they log into argos.opener.eu here to see um well let's say here maybe because the landing page will be same so when they log in with their institutional account as we saw before they want to be able to see different things for example a logo of their institution somewhere here wherever different fonts different different colors even so different things maybe the terms the about the glossary the terms to be also in their own language and they want to also be able to have control of this the activity that the researchers that log in with the institutional credentials to see what are the plans that they create to to be able to you know have more control of what's happening in this space that is now tailored to the institutional needs at the end that means that instead of also if you are a tenant in argos that means that at the end instead of choosing a nodo you might want to configure and link to your own repository so that the dmps are exposed to your own repository and are linked to other outputs that you have there so these are all things that we took into consideration when talking to to you not only during the the calls the community calls but also offline in the the help desk the request that we receive in the help desk and we're going to introduce this multi-tenancy so whoever wants to have their own space and look and feel and configurations on argos to for example switch from the nodo and configure their own or create their own blueprints with their own prefilling configuration and their own templates they are able at their logo or do whatever they want they will be able to do it with this feature and yeah do you think this is something that speaks to you as well I think I should have opened it sorry I now see what I did now you can write right yes we can we we can write questions it was open okay no worries new new features on menti also so I'm getting myself familiar with them is it and do you think you will use it more as it is with the zenn nodo configuration for example I let's take this as an example or or with customization does it make any difference for you for example it's is it the same are there any no more pressuring issues that you would like to see so this is not of your concern at the moment maybe we can ask to the people that are here from my institutions like Monica Sara or Gurell or Katia even if for you having the logo or customized the page it's better for your institution when you are suggesting argos as the dmp2 for having a machine actionable dmp or to use for specific founders data management brand do you have any thought about that I can say that for the time being we are we have a destitutional repository which does not contain data we will have another repository with data but it's yet to come and I think that if you could connect argos to our repository it could be better I mean everything stays in one place you know I think it's a good idea but we still don't have the possibility to test it so everybody is just jumping from one tool to another and I think as soon as we have this new repository for data this would be clearer it also would be easier to make some proposal more than other and to suggest some instruments and tools instead of other this is why I'm just having a look at the different tools I think it's quite friendly as I see because this is the first thing it's it could be you should be attractive and friendly otherwise the researchers won't use it it's just a burden just something they have to do and they don't understand the the reason and also the the possibility that these kind of instruments give them as long as it is too difficult to use if at the end these tools is connected with our repository our system it should be better I don't know what entails because our repository has have is not managed by us directly but we have software managers which are outside for Italy it is Chinneca and I don't know how to to connect it and to it will be also a challenge to to know how they could make disconnections with the tools coming from outside but this is about the data repository right this is I'm talking about now about the publication repository because the data repository is yet to come so we still have to see how maybe this year we will start to implement it but as as to my experience with the publication repository it's not easy to connect different systems especially if you are not the software manager you always have to ask and it depends also on their kind of the settings of the repository the settings of the software platform and they call them customizations you know but I think it is a good idea to to make a connection with a repository as a repository manager I think it's a good idea to have everything within a system so it is also easy for us to to see what is going on and to monitor also how our research is going on instead of looking in the noddle you know the noddle is very good but it's outside if I have to make a report I have to look in different places if I have everything in one place it's easier for us yeah yeah thank you thank you it took some months we can have if you are building a new repository and now ZenoDo has launched a new repository system with the same software of ZenoDo in which you can create your own repository with data that are compatible with open air and it will be very easy for us to connect okay they are the admin venue you mean right yes I can get in the chat okay and being mindful of the time I would like to I don't think that changed I would like to end this communicable with an invitation to this reproducibility cafe workshop that we are organizing together with my colleague Stefania we're working as she mentioned before in the tier 2 project which is all about reproducibility and we have a pilot there where we use Argos to extend the concept of DMPs to reproducibility management plans so so that the plans at the end incorporate more elements on reproducibility we're going to have this to our workshop cafe on the 24th of April 10 to 12 central european time and we would be happy to see there maybe I don't know if we can yeah I think there's a link in in the chat a link to the event with all the details and the registration link thank you thank you Stefania exactly what I wanted to say thanks for adding that in the chat so you can tell me more information there as well as how to register and we're happy to see you also there and if you want to participate yeah I think it's the catholic easter right approaching so I wish you all happy easter with friends and family and I know it's not a long time for you know a long holiday but still it's something and that can keep us you know a bit more you know move away some of the urge of the summer that we all feel suddenly when spring comes so yeah all the best wishes thank you very much to my colleagues as well for being here and supporting this and it was really nice talking to all of you and having this discussion uh I really enjoyed it thank you thank you thank you thank you so much thank you thanks everyone happy easter