 Okay, so it would be good for somebody to lead a prayer, please and then we can move forward anybody Abhinash, can you pray? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, let's pray Our gracious heavenly father we thank you for this beautiful day Beautiful morning and beautiful time for the God in the fellowship in your presence Jesus Thank you father God for this wonderful opportunity that you've given again into our life father Thank you for the breath that you are giving Lord Jesus again and again lot. Thank you father God Father God, we pray that Lord Jesus as we are Lord Jesus learning your word father God Understanding prophetic ministry father God. We ask you the more revelation and the clear father God so that we can Understand in a deeper way father God so so that we can understand in a new revelation with Jesus We ask you father God more of your grace to learn and understand father God We submit faster Nancy into your mighty and father God as he is teaching us father God Give her a more revelation and the wisdom and the knowledge so that he could in Impart in he could impart Lord Jesus that word and understanding in our life. Thank you Jesus We praise you we worship you Lord Jesus We give you all the glory and honor and we ask this pray in Jesus mighty name. Amen. Thank you ma'am. Thank you Amen, thank you. Thank you Abhinash So today we I remember telling us that we will go into a practice session So that's what we are going to do I thought we could touch upon one chapter and then you know the rest of the class time we will spend Praying and sharing words that we hear from God so we can do that and tomorrow again Let's see how it goes. We have a few more chapters left And I'm hoping to complete it if we can complete it quickly then, you know, we'll have a little more time for Sharing words from God. So today chapter 14. This is the prophetic church It's it's going to be a somewhat quick. So, you know, we can complete it. Basically, this talks about us as local churches becoming prophetic and pursuing the prophetic anointing You know in what what God is releasing through us and so far we've seen that the prophetic Means to hear from God and to speak that forth. So basically we hear from God about what he's saying in the now And you know that that brings instruction that brings the refreshing from God's presence It is not just about Saying what God says, but it's more about knowing the heart of God for a time such as this and for the now For us as well as the the world around us So that is that is what being prophetic means and when you think about the prophetic church Then we see that the pastor is prophetic the people are prophetic and you know, you you kind of Understand that at a larger scale. So everyone is hearing from God. Everyone Is flowing with what is in God's heart? At an individual and at a corporate level so as the as we have said earlier, we are tending more and more towards, you know, the Release of the supernatural from God's presence as we Await the return of the Lord Jesus. We are seeing much of this restored back to the church the five-fold ministry offices are being restored and the Anointing of these five-fold ministry offices is also being restored. So the prophetic in a great way is being restored back to the Church now while we talk about hearing from God I think even in the last class I mentioned that we should move away from making this about getting Information from God. So if that becomes the mindset of God's people Regarding the prophetic. No, we would really have failed in Understanding the prophetic and your publication here is titled understanding the prophetic So the prophetic is more than getting information from God. So The prophetic is to flow with the heart of God. So that is what the prophetic really is and For us when we are thinking about a prophetic church and a prophetic congregation, we must have this very very clear So the pursuit of the church or the body must be knowing God's heart and we've also said that The prophetic is all about being intimate with God Having a strong prayer life being sensitive to the spirit of God so the emphasis is to know God's heart and to Pursue intimacy with God. Okay. Now added to that we could say that The pursuit of holiness is also important. So when we combine all this understanding God's heart We said a pursuing intimacy with God and pursuing holiness Now we can display and reveal the prophetic anointing for what God really wants it to be and That is important for us to settle in our hearts Why should a church become a prophetic church? See, it's good as we've discussed this in some of our previous courses as well It's good to know God's word preach God's word because God's word is the truth and we know that God's word is Always powerful. It is able to work in people's lives And with everything that we study and understand from God's word We reap benefits. So that is that is understood. However, you know There is something about the now word of God and the Bible says this that the sheep hear my voice. So We are following the instructions of the shepherd. He is guiding us leading us He is directing us. So we have to tune into that regular guidance From God and thereby it is important for us to know the truth Which he's speaking right now as well So just as much as we might rejoice in what God has spoken 10 years from now 20 years from now 50 years from now You know that there is really a Place where or you know, there is really this opportunity that God has given us to keep hearing from him right now So why stay with only The the revelation that has come, you know, several years ago when God can talk to us right now So that is our purpose. We want to hear from God in the now because he is a speaking God. So That way, we will be instructed by the spirit right now and directed by the spirit right now And you know, we can keep walking with the Lord. So that is the process I see a hand raised by Kennedy Kennedy. You have something to say. Okay, Kennedy. Did you have a question? Maybe it happened by mistake No, it was by mistake. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. No problem. Yeah, that's okay. Sure. All right So then we move forward the process of becoming a prophetic church now local churches as We said, you know, God is pouring out his spirit and we are learning more about The five-fold ministry offices and the anointing connected to that. So there is a Transition the churches that are not used to the prophetic anointing would need to make a transition into hearing from God. So there is a process involved and You know, how how is this process going to come through by equipping obviously when we Learn about the prophetic when we understand how God speaks and then no people are trained to release The prophetic through their lives. That's when they can be positioned to position in a place where They can speak what God is saying right now. So this entire Process has to take place now. What can be an issue here a Resistance to change. Okay. So sometimes as God's people and as local churches, we become very comfortable with what God is doing Right now if he's taking us into something new May be a large proportion of the church doesn't want that to happen a large proportion of the church Is actively resisting what the pastor is trying to bring in so Resistance is a challenge that we might face from a local church congregation And also there can be a fear based on What has been observed as prophetic ministry and anointing you know people can have this fear that oh We will have a certain reputation. So, you know, what if people start looking at us as You know those who are flowing the gifts of the spirit those who prophesy And you know, people have their mindsets. So they think then people might you know other churches might think that we have your other churches might think that You know We we are not strong in the word. So all these mindsets Maybe because they don't know God's word clearly yet. They they think that their reputation will be at stake So these are some of the challenges that a pastor or a leadership team in a church can face when they want to help the church transition into the Into being more prophetic. So We will then need to work with the people We will then need to teach from scripture help them understand that you know This transition is is definitely scriptural and this is something that God is doing right now And so we must be open to the work of the Holy Spirit. Okay. So in that way by working with the people Informing them educating them, we will be able to overcome the resistance and the fears about there reputation okay, so what are some of the pitfalls or The dangers of becoming a prophetic church If people are not Equipped thoroughly they could go into this mode of Thinking that the prophetic is just you know here from God and say something say speak something nice And you know not really be sensitive to The heart of God. So we have to help people You know recognize that hey, you know, don't just don't just go around saying things you know that You're not very clear about or without Without pursuing intimacy without pursuing holiness. No people can The entire congregation can go into this mode of just receiving information and giving information So that's not really the point. They we have to help the church know that are You know are the key here or the goal is to really be a blessing to the body of Christ and to know the direction that God is providing to his people. So that's the whole goal and the emphasis so Going trying to do something lesser than that which is you know, hearing something and saying that out that that is not fulfilling God's plan for Being a prophetic church. So we'll have to help the church understand that then the other thing is that people can start Deriving their identity from the function of the church. So then people could Identify themselves as oh, we are a prophetic church Now, there's nothing wrong with being a prophetic church. There's nothing wrong with being a supernatural church, but these are all arts, you know of What is God what God is doing through the church? So that's not the whole and therefore establishing the identity of the congregation In who they are in Christ Jesus is very very important. Otherwise, you know, you the congregation just thinks oh, we are a prophetic church We are an apostolic church that alone is our identity and that is is that can be very dangerous Okay, so that is also something for us to be careful about and the next thing is that Even if we are able to transition Successfully into becoming a prophetic church. We need to let the people know that Our being prophetic is for the entire body to be blessed. So there's no point starting To discriminate against churches that are not yet flowing in the prophetic This also tends to happen. The churches that Are now flowing in the prophetic look at others and say oh, we are better than you God's spirit is moving in our midst. You still don't know how to hear from God. So You see that again is defeating the entire purpose. The prophetic is to bless the body. So we must Yeah, thank God for what we are learning. Thank God for what we know, but Excuse me. We are not here to put down those who Have not yet understood what God is doing through the prophetic or there can be people with differing opinions Okay, but we need to learn to deal gently with with them Unfortunately, there are clashes. There are competitions. I know there are arguments Between those who flow in the gifts of the spirit and those who don't want to flow in the gifts of the spirit You know when we when we go into that mode again, it's it's causing more harm to the body of Christ than You know being a benefit. So we have to Stay away from such things now. What will happen if a church becomes more prophetic? Many benefits. We will know how God is steering us through the current times and Another thing is there is refreshing as you hear from God's word The fresh mana of God's word what God is saying in the now that there is a refreshing that comes into the church And we can expect growth advancement You know being Given by the Holy Spirit. So that is helpful and you know, we can be a dynamic Church we can be a church that truly demonstrates the power of the spirit Okay. Now talking a little bit about a pastor who is Pastoring a church into this transition It is going to be challenging for a pastor We already said that there can be a resistance Which the pastor would need to work through and the best way Is to teach the word whenever we teach the word the spirit of God will work with the word And work in the hearts of the people and they'll understand the importance of becoming prophetic the next challenge that we would We can expect is that the Way a church functions can become somewhat messy Okay, by that we mean that there can be many good and sincere believers who are practicing to hear from God and so We might keep receiving prophetic words every now and then You know believers giving other believers prophetic words and maybe sometimes they go wrong Or believers giving the pastor a prophetic word and you know, they're all well-meaning believers They're all trying to hear accurately from God. So which is great. But then you see in the flow of the prophetic and the You know becoming more accurate that can be all these We wouldn't again. I already mentioned, you know, we wouldn't call This false prophecy because you know, these are good people They are believers. They really want to flow in the gifts of the spirit But mistakes mistakes tend to happen. So for a pastor to Keep encouraging the people guiding them and then telling them, okay You know good, you know good try but Come on, let me teach you some more of God's word and to guide them on how you can interpret What you are hearing. So all this will be a part of what a pastor needs to do So it will be so added to the existing work You could say there's additional work to do when one wants to Transition the church into being more prophetic. However You know Proverbs 14 verse 4 it says where no oxen are the trough is clean But much increase comes by the strength of an ox. So whenever we are wanting to make progress Things will be messy around us because Yeah, it's just part of the process But one needs to be open to accommodate all this chaos in order to Help the church transition Uh, so that is one thing about the congregation now a pastor another important aspect for this pastor is to become a prophetic pastor. Okay, so prophetic pastor is instead of just Sharing what you know one knows as okay. Uh, now I'm a pastor. I'm only going to teach from these subjects This is the way I'm going to do church but when a pastor starts to hear from God And uh, listen to what the spirit is saying in the now. There can be Um, uh, you know that fresh direction that is coming in into the pastor's life So there can be new things that the pastor might step into And uh, you know begin to share Those things so one has to be open to that one has to be open to that now We know that God's word will come in inspire us The prophetic will inspire us in our teaching the prophetic will inspire us to um, You know have more revelation. They can also be Just a moment. I Is that a question that somebody has Okay, not really Yeah, uh, it could cause More revelation to come in they can also be elements of Uh, you know when when a pastor begins to flow in the prophetic foretelling of the things that are to come Uh, the way intercession Uh happens the way worship happens can completely be transformed Uh, and one may move into you know, um Confronting demonic powers because we know that the prophetic anointing does that so This also could happen. There can be unusual manifestations of God's power There can be extraordinary signs wonders. So a pastor needs to be open to these things and uh, as the Lord is leading the pastor to Prepare the church to receive such things. He he needs to work on that and a pastor also needs to keep the emphasis on Helping people remember that uh, you know, it's all about God and not so much Make the spiritual gifts a focus because um, if the pastor makes the gifts the flow of the Flow of the gifts Uh prominent and just teaches the church that hey, you know, we're all about spiritual gifts We're all about you know, only the power of God. Uh, what happens is people will will Um, you know miss out those elements of worship intimacy with God and also What I shared earlier about pursuing holiness. So we we Informed them we teach them in a holistic way and that really would help the church So don't emphasize so much on the method. Um, and the gifts As much as the Purpose of those gifts. Okay, so that way a pastor will be able to Uh himself flow in the gifts of the spirit and also rightly Instruct God's people to flow in the gifts of the spirit and then of course a pastor can encourage the Coming together of prophetic teams. We've touched on that in the last class. We said there can be creative teams There can be evangelistic teams. There can be worship teams. So there can be many different teams that are Practicing the flow of the prophetic. Okay. So, uh, that is the way in which one can Help a local church transition into becoming more prophetic. So any comments about this any thoughts about this Uh particular topic if there are we'll take that up and then we will move into a practice session for today Yes, yes, louis Please go ahead Yeah Whether we have a balance between making a transition into In this case the prophetic and you maintain Relationships with God because sometimes when the emphasis on the perspective is then to You know that the extract nutrients for that transition from God from the world from Um From older from older senior ministers So where do we balance that place of personal relationship so that the emphasis does not change does not move from our personal relationship into the Emphasis for the moment in this case transition into a prophetic Or an apostolic church Okay, okay, uh, how do we keep the balance you're asking louis? Yeah, the balance. Um, because I'm also talking from a personal experience where there's an empathy of the spirit Um And you're trying to extract all the juice You know, I mean use all the essence of the of the transition all the Emphasis of the transition all the details of the transition. So sometimes we are Accent God for the directions the the work he wants to use the people he wants to use And it's something that can shift our attention away from Um our personal relationship at that time into the emphasis he's trying to make at the moment So where do we keep the balance so that we do not lose focus of Um, it's like at that point I tend to use God to achieve a transition And shifting our focus from the relationship we're building with him to the transition itself So how do we keep the balance? Yes, thank you. Thank you louis very good important question I Want to take us back to a discussion that we had in the previous course and this was about the house of God Over there. We we learned louis that when it comes to Equipping the church In the truth of God's word as a pastor we can be very intentional Um, and therefore the choice of topics, you know can be We laid out in such a way that people have a good foundation on The subjects of discipleship Okay, so we might want to establish our people in Christian life discipleship really well before we Help them transition into um Becoming a prophetic church because this is more You know of of a ministry sort of a subject So I don't know if you would recall we said that there are three pillars one is about You know discipleship One pillar is about christian ministry. The other one is about life skills now all these three areas require emphasis from the pulpit Otherwise what happens we if we just hold on to one subject As you said, you know, we can go overboard not that it is wrong But it's just that the balance that the people need Would would kind of you know be out. So The best way to do it is Equip them in discipleship. So then, you know, we are preparing them about the basics, you know, the word of God How can one pursue Their relationship with God through prayer How can you know one spend time in worship? What does it mean to have, you know, a life as a disciple Sharing the gospel. So there are many different aspects, right? So we we we lay a good foundation of all of that And then, you know, we we help them move on to subjects such as The prophetic so even after we share about the prophetic anointing I think when we're teaching a subject Louis, it's good to Share it as wholly as we can You know based on the revelation that we have from God's word so far and You know the clarity that the scriptures give us So even in what I shared just now, you know, I talked about some of the pitfalls Some of the dangers. So We can share it in that way. And so when we Share it in a in a complete way, people will understand. Okay. My identity is not That I am a prophetic person I am in Christ And I'm also prophetic, you know, so then they are able to understand how to really carry this anointing and Flow in the anointing so that will help And in addition to that, I think what we call as hand-holding or what we call as Continual encouragement Will also be beneficial because then what is happening is the pastor and the leadership team Let's say they are already equipped and they are experienced in these areas They can also guide the people You know through this process. So as and when people make mistakes or people have questions It is addressed and thereby You know The the transition is quite okay. And you know people will not go out of balance So just some practical things louis and I and I hope it answers your question Yeah, yeah. Yes ma. Thank you so much. At least once the foundation is laid everything upon it Was to get the balance. I understand. Thank you so much Yes, yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. So, uh, I I mean, I also know where you're coming from but because what happened sometimes is See it's a good thing for us to become a prophetic church and an apostolic church But people get caught up only in that so uh from the pulpit. It's only words that are You know called out and all that but the teaching becomes less You know the equipping becomes less. Yes always. Yeah. Yeah And it's always about prophesying. So then People might lose the balance Yes, ma. Yeah, correct. Ma. It happens a lot in this site because they're not going to the extreme of Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah so And and the next generation the next generation catch up on that and the foundation is sometimes lost in the whole process So try to I understand ma. Thank you. Yes Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. Thank you. And uh, also, uh, thank uh, louis. I just want to add to this So as you said, you know, the next generation only captures us being prophetic Also, another thing that happens is uh, I think along with the prophetic you see it's very Thrilling when you when you see oh god knows there is all this revelation. So When in a church we go out of balance What also happens is, you know, there is this appearance of we say thrills and frills kind of a ministry um so People wrongly feel Understand that this is how the prophetic is, you know, the service has to be Uh, you know, very exciting. It has to be You know, you you should get some goosebumps only then god is moving in our midst, but not necessarily No, we might give the wrong picture to our coming generations or the uh, you know, the churches that don't yet Flow in the prophetic that this is how the prophetic is supposed to be but not necessarily not necessarily No, we can keep it very simple. Uh, we can be very simple and yet be very prophetic. Okay So the uh order that we maintain in a church service Now all these things it it will really depend on us being very intentional and considering the word of god um Holy and not Only emphasizing on the prophetic because then and unfortunately, it's happening. It's happening in many places Uh, but you know, hopefully people will transition into making the manifestation, you know of of the or the flow of the prophetic um undergirded by The entire truth of god's word and all of that and so there can be a balance of teaching Properly teaching the word god's word properly equipping believers in both discipleship and in ministry How do you minister with the gift of prophecy? So then you will have um, you know believers who will really benefit the Body of christ. So yeah, thank you. And uh, yeah, louis anything more you want to say No, no, thank you mom. I just want to say thank you for understanding what I was coming Yeah, sure. Sure. No problem. Thank you louis. All right. So that's uh, important anything else Before we move forward Okay, all right. So in that case, we will just take some time to pray over one another and I mean ideally if we were in the class then we could have divided us into groups and uh Everyone will would have had an opportunity to pray and hear from god But I'm thinking, you know, the way we will do it today is I'm looking at all your names listed here on google classroom What I will do is I will just assign each of you make you into two. So I'll call out, you know, uh Two people's names and you can consider yourself a team and just pray for that Who so ever name I I give you just pray and uh Just see if you're receiving anything in your spirit. Maybe it's a sense of something or do you feel like You know, you you saw a picture or you picked up a word in your spirit It can be anything just be open and no pressure if you feel like I'm not hearing anything. It's okay. It's totally fine but pray for the other person And see if you get something from god for them. Okay, so that's what we will do We're doing this online and I really hope, you know, it goes. Okay. So I'm just gonna randomly mix up all all the people here Uh, okay, so Prazi and bet Prazi and bet if you could please pray for each other if you can just put a yes on the chat Then I know that you you heard what I'm saying. Yes, Christopher. You have a question Yes, I was just thinking that is it possible to um You know from breakout groups So that uh, you know, we can we can actually have You know, have them have each other. I mean I mean We can have it. We are broken into into a smaller group Okay, understood. Christopher. So Christopher google classroom as of now with the current settings that I have Uh, I okay. It just it does say breakout room So let me give it a shot. If this works, then yes, thank you for Proposing it. So bet and praise it. Please hold on. Let me let me see If I can set you all up into breakout rooms Okay, so I'm going to do this What we will do is we will have five breakout rooms. So this does give me, uh, An option to do that. So there will be five people in a group and you can all go into a group We have a good, um, maybe 10 minutes. No, let me give you About six to six minutes The breakout room will close on its Okay, it's nine thirty eight nine thirty eight nine Okay, seven minutes. I'll give you seven minutes Uh, and you're all shuffled. So just pray for one another And see if you know, there's anything that you want to share with them. We'll come back and we we can talk about it So there are three Rooms and I'm opening up five rooms. So I'm opening it up. You should get a prompt. Hopefully or just be divided into the groups Yeah, so the rooms are open. You can leave please Yeah, so crazy louis Georgia Isaac If you can please pick a room that would be good room three anyone Okay, sit down tall. Okay. Are you having difficulty? Louis, are you okay? Are you able to join? I think my network is a bit slow, but I'm going to join up. It's a bit slow Okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah, no problem. No problem. Okay. Welcome back. Welcome back everyone the rooms have closed Feels like rapture all of you left and all of your back. So uh, but good though Hopefully you had some time to pray over one another if anyone wants to share from Whatever happened in the breakout room. You could please share Hi pastor Yes Break her room the time really seemed short Okay, okay See um short because as you know, it wasn't like one on one. It was um Five or so four or five individuals, you know, we prayed first and I think that's about maybe three or so minutes and then you know I saw Harrison's wife. That's what I saw her looking She's looking she's expecting something Right, she's looking as if she's waiting looking up. She's looking to God. She's expecting something So I'd ask him how is she? um And he said she's in another country at the moment. She's probably traveling Right and I ask her ask him if she sings and he says yes because I also saw something of her singing but um, it was just brief and um She he said she's expecting looking for a job right now So pretty much um, we pray I prayed for her And prayed that um, you know, she gets hope and if a doubt be removed then So pretty much and pray for Harrison and that was about it for over time I don't think anybody has got to share it Okay, okay. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Tasha. Thank you for sharing that and rose noted What we'll do is I think next class there's only two more chapters to yeah, like Two more chapters left. I'll just share the key points in about 15 minutes And the entire time we'll we'll break ourselves up into groups and do You know practice so hopefully that'll help Yeah, say you have something to share Yes, I also have safe situation. The time was short But I was in a group with um park park car and um shiver on And um while he prayed first of all I kept seeing like a tire rolling then it was like the picture was opening up more and more and it was like a bite But if the focus was more on the tire rolling, I don't know what that meant And then when she run free What I kept hearing in my street was light light light So before I could pray for pray for them because we all agreed that would pray Picture but I couldn't pray for any of them. But that was what I saw while each of them pray What I heard and what I saw and Okay, yeah, thank you say so you you didn't have a chance to tell them this It was very short. So I just mentioned it but I couldn't really Talk about it more Okay, so what we can do is uh, you know, we are closing this call in one minute But we have the screen page where you can go and post so you can say, you know for Um, you know for taisha and if you did see something and you know, if you can interpret it even better You can just post it out there. Just make sure that it's not a personal message If it is a personal message, then you know, we'll see how you can share that with them But if it is something general then you can post it on the stream page Okay, so let's do that for now and in the next class, uh, we will take You know the the larger proportion of the session only for prayer Okay fine class. Is that okay? Yeah, I guess it's fine. Yeah, so, okay great. Uh, then say can you please pray? We'll uh wrap up this class Let us pray Our father in heaven, we bless you and we worship you. We give you glory Thank you lord for this time we have spent lord learning At your feet. Thank you lord for our instructor how you have guided her And the wisdom through with lord you have impacted upon us true heart Strengthening her increase her on all sides Increase for god your wish to have more and more And lord equip her more and more lord for greater works You pray father for each and every one of us that Our time will never be wasted for lord all that you have equipped us and taught us lord will be utilized for the glory of you And lord for the extension of your kingdom. Lord, we pray that as we continually Um flow in the prophetic we pray that each day Will perfect the gift of prophecy and we pray that lord, we will never elevate Prophecy above you will always point everyone to you jesus That our deep training will always point back to you and that all we do all that we prophesy all that we see All that we hear it will all come back to you jesus at all times Blessed be your holy name as we go go with us You know on all that classes evils wish dumb lords understand all that we have thought To your glory of the name and jesus name amen Amen Thank you pastor. Yeah, thank you say. Thank you everyone. Thank you christopher learned something new today I didn't know google classroom can do this Yeah, so god bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you sister rupa. Thank you everyone god bless you See you tomorrow Thank you pastor god bless you too. Thank you. Thank you papakar