 TIPS is a not-for-profit economic research organization. We do policy research largely for government. And we've been around for almost 20 years now supporting the new democratic government in South Africa with training industrial policy type research. And we have organized this conference around the themes of regional integration and regional industrialization and regional value chains. These are very, very relevant at the moment for the South African government. And we felt that this type of academic conference would give some support to the policymakers who are attending this forum. The region's important because South Africa is involved in a number of regional collaborative processes through the TFTA, sorry, the Tripod Free Trade Agreement. And now there's talk about Africa-wide agreements on free trade. And these processes are slowly materializing. And it requires a rethink in terms of policy terms of how to South Africa, which has been fairly insular, even in the democratic period, has been fairly isolated from the economic trade with its neighbors. So it's grown in recent years, but it's nowhere near what other regions do in terms of insuriginal trade. So the legacy of apartheid still lives with us. And even in terms of bilateral institutions and how we interface in terms of infrastructure and border posts, all of those things aren't at the level at which they should be. So with South African government really looking at these things in a lot more closer detail, it helps to have the research community supporting the need for policy change and policy direction and how to rethink. Because there's no easy answers in some of these things. There's been different models that have been used in different regions. Some have worked, some have not worked. We see Greece as one of the casualties of some of the outcomes of regional collaboration that hasn't necessarily worked out. And we at a point where going down this road the South African government is saying, let's learn from what's going on elsewhere. Let's look at what's going on in industry. Let's look at the different ideas that are out there. And let's look at how these things are playing out on the ground. And that's where research becomes very useful. It's a closed session where people are able to engage and hear the issues in a non-confrontational environment. So it's a nice space. And what it allows for is fairly frank discussion. And also it's an opportunity for academics who've been doing research who don't normally get heard by the policymakers or who want an audience with policymakers to present their work for policymakers to hear a different perspective or to see the detailed research that's been taking place. So it does provide a research outlet for academics and which is why I think we've got quite a good response from academics to come through for the conference. Well, it's helped at a number of levels. So we've got a number of very good papers from the UNU WADA network. People who are researching very relevant issues have come through for the conference and have been supported by UNU WADA to come through. UNU WADA have also helped out with funding support for the conference. And in South Africa doesn't quite get a lot of donor funding anymore. So we have to run these things on a project by project basis. And with the support of UNU WADA, we've been able to actually host the conference and with one or two other sponsors we've been able to make sure that the conference is a success and we've been able to bring out a whole range of people who are interested in presenting their work.