 Be there video people for everybody and Naughty old people. This is my hat today. It's a shirt that says I listen to bands that don't exist didn't exist yet That's my hat in lieu of a hat. I thought funny t-shirt. I'm wearing a Samsung Lions hat I'm wearing a pure ponage hat. Nice. I don't need that because I have headphones bones are his hat I I Oh, if you don't subscribe to the patreon RSS audio feed You might want to do that because we had a whole like walk down memory lane about podcasts just now Podcasting yes, pretty fun. It was it was wonderful. Do you remember podcasting guys? Do you remember that? Do you remember it was before the YouTubes? It was a pretty amazing time. It was magical It was pretty magical though podcast alley all that stuff Yeah, I got to the point where I started telling people that I do YouTube and they're like, oh cool. How do you make money? That's Figure that out I'll let you know Man I want to say the podcasting actually launched my art career In some ways because I was doing and I was doing advertising and then when I started doing a Alarm art for people on podcast alley, then I really started switching focus to to art So thanks to podcasting opened up a totally brand new Well, I was independent before then but but it really I was you know, this allowed me to do stuff or is like I'm drawn. This is cool, you know You weren't drawing what other well, I mean guess you're drawing what other people want I am I am but it was but what it was a shift from what I was normally doing Advertising and marketing and stuff so instead of drawing another Virginia Slim's ad Because Len worked in 1963 I did I we actually started that conversation a little bit earlier That was gonna be Don Draper said that it was started in 1968 the brand so you were so you were so hipster I had to start brand development. I did I was I started when I was in the womb Yeah, even just a thought and my parents came out with a pack in one hand and the lighter in the Did though I wanted I did so want to be like a Don Draper type And when I worked at an advertising agency like the my bosses and stuff, they're all like that. I get angry Yeah, yeah, I worked with a lot of interesting people in my advertising days It's hard to keep up with those people. Yeah, I talk about like the You know like the martini lunches and stuff. Yeah were those and I was like, I can't keep up with you guys When I worked at the used bookstore in Austin, we did Margar Mexican martini lunches That's tough man, that's tough. Yes Hard to keep up with that stuff. I'm like, I don't I got kids man. I can't I know I go home All right, shall we are you all ready? Oh, I got to be controlled. Don't I control Something all right here we go Hey you yeah you do you want to help out the Daily Tech news show? Well, it's really easy Just go to Daily Tech news show comm slash support and find out how thank you This is the Daily Tech news for Friday, August 25th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt alongside Shannon Morris From Tech thing and hack five and so many other wonderful things. How are you Shannon? I'm wonderful. How are you doing today, Tom? We're going to talk about robot priests and Justin time learning today It's gonna be good times. Yeah, it is. It's gonna be just in a good time Just in a good time The acronym for that Len Peralta is here as well to illustrate the episode Uh, how you doing Len? How you feeling? I'm doing all right. I'm feeling good and somehow I Today's drawing. I don't know what's gonna happen with this one, but it should be pretty interesting. Hopefully It won't be scary at the end of this Wow Scary. I'm intrigued. Yes. I can't wait to find out what you drove Roger Chang our producer is here as well to show you some screens and keep the show moving roger We're very glad you're here. Yeah, so I'm here to show screens That's the only thing you're doing. I wasn't trying to define life It's just among the many things That you're doing. I'm a slide show You're very important roger roger tag the human slide show All right now that I've insulted roger unintentionally, let's start with a few tech things you should know Apple sent a note to some developers thursday saying quote under the us sanctions regulations The app store cannot host distribute or do business with apps or developers connected to certain us embargoed countries Just come out and say it apple There's no need to be catty. You're talking about iran apple does not operate in iran, but Some developers there have created apps and submitted them in app stores outside The country and that's what apple's cracking down on now Google interestingly does allow apps to be distributed in iran as long as they don't charge anything Huh, that's interesting. So I wonder I wonder what the actual law says I mean, I I see that it says the app store cannot host distribute or do business with apps But why why is free? Okay, because it's still a part of the app Well, I mean google is interpreting the sanctions differently than apple I guess apple's just saying we we don't want to get in the business of trying to judge So we're not going to allow any of them and there were just some tweaks to the to the sanctions recently And that may be why apple decided had to crack down hard I guess apple just wasn't doesn't want to deal with the drama involved and associated with trying to figure out the US law so they just decided to go with it. They were just like, okay, just cut them all off Moving on bloomberg's mark gurmin reports that apple plans to unveil an updated apple tv with 4k streaming support In a focus on live television at their september 12th announcement The updated apple tv will reportedly support hdr video I feel like this is a long time coming Yeah We have seen these capabilities in roku for quite some time hdr video 4k streaming and such Live tv is a new thing though. That'll probably buy them some sales for sure Yeah, apple tv. Apple generally doesn't jump on the trend first, right? So I'm not Shocked that they waited a little while For this to happen Go ahead They were also pretty behind when it came to um Sharing the platform with other streaming services as well I believe it was was a prime or hulu or one one of those wasn't on the apple tv's for a long time Yeah, we still haven't seen it on supposedly they're coming But yeah, have not showed up yet voodoo is on there though. You can't purchase through their app I'm getting a little bit of echo from someone. Uh, so if someone could keep an eye on that Samsung head vice chairman j y li was found guilty of embezzlement Ambribrary and sentenced to five years in prison by a soul Central district court li and four other samsung executives were accused of paying money to choy sunsill A friend of former president park yung he in exchange for approval of corporate Reorganization plans two other samsung executives were sentenced to four years in prison and two others were given suspended sentences samsung intends to appeal the decisions Yeah, they uh, they are Doing fine. They had a great profitability report recently But they don't have the visionary head and the way these cables work In samsung is the head generally doesn't run the company as hands on as maybe some u.s executives But they do provide the charted course So it's no surprise that samsung could continue to do well Without j y li being able to be in the office every day, but it could have long-term effects Yeah, it definitely could and this was kind of a long time coming. We've we've been I'm not sure if you have but i've been reading about this Happening for several months now about um, kind of the the case So it was expected But nobody is really sure what's going to happen in the long term, but I I would agree with you tom I think that it will probably have some kind of negative effect on samsung But we just don't know what that will be yet and when you think of samsung Don't just think of samsung phones samsung appliances Remember that the samsung group is is a lot of different things. It's financial. It's transportation. It's the baseball team There's all kinds of things involved and knowing where to allocate those resources is what somebody like j y li does What's very concerning to samsung is that in the past If one of these cable heads was Uh convicted of corruption, they were generally pardoned and the current president of south korea has indicated He will not do any pardoning in in going forward Yeah, which is surprising because they also say that they're planning to appeal the decision So i'm wondering what's going to happen next. I guess we'll just have to sit. Yeah Well, the the appeal will will be submitted and and if they're allowed to appeal They'll go to court again and try to get j y li found innocent instead of guilty Last thursday amazon opened up its influencer program to youtubers the program lets vetted people Set up a storefront with links to products. They earn commission on it's similar to using affiliate links, but offers a custom url So i've been also following this one for quite a while because it's something that i'm hoping that i can sign up for I signed up for it this morning and it's currently in pending status and they say i'll hear back in like five to seven days But this amazon influencer program, which is just for youtube right now Sounds like it's a lot easier for people to send out their links to other folks instead of just having a Currently affiliate links with amazon you have to link to a specific product and that's something that's in their terms of service With the custom url though you can link to like your own storefront on amazon and get that awesome commission Which is supposed to be a little bit higher than affiliate links as well It is i couldn't find anything that confirmed that that was my one That's what i heard during the beta uh when i was doing some research on it And it's it's hard to find the information on it, but it's the article implied that it would be the same rate But yeah, i've heard different Okay, because yeah, maybe difference right there. Maybe it was different when it was in beta and maybe it's the same now Well, it's still in beta. It's just that they added the automatic youtube sign up To it rather than having to have Basically before you kind of had to have amazon reach out to you you could apply but may or may not hear back Now you've got this automated form where it checks your youtube status And i had the same situation as you shannon where it approved me and i actually even have the drop down link for the Influence of program link, but it still lists me as pending Okay, as far as i know all it's doing is replacing what what used to be called the a store I've had a store at top merit dot com forever Uh for a long time called the a store the a store is being phased out in october The only difference unless there's a commission difference, which could could be a significant difference The only difference is they're giving you a vanity url. I mean i can make my own vanity url I did i go to time merit dot com slash store boom vanity url I need amazon to do that But I guess it's nice that they do that and certainly the interface is going to be much better And and it's definitely easier to add products than it was in the old a store Yeah, but this is this is a lot of polish not a lot of difference in the substance as far as I can tell Yeah, unless the commission changes Um, I also noticed that they're going to be opening that up to other social networks too So not just influence our influencers on youtube So if you're on instagram and stuff like that you can potentially be able to sign up for it on there as well And uh, I don't know anything about what the minimum subscriber count is or anything like that Currently but apparently they look at those numbers as well as engagements So I guess we'll have to find out but i'm very interested as an influencer myself and how this will pan out Johns hopkins applied physics lab has pitched a plan to nasa to use its dragonfly quad copters to explore saturn's largest moon titan Titan has a dense atmosphere and weak gravity making it pretty favorable for flight the copters could use mass spectrometry Gamma ray spectrometry and other sensors on multiple sites to assess the composition and conditions of the surface and atmosphere Uh, the craft would also use radio isotope thermoelectric generators for the power and i'm not going to use solar power out there on titan Uh, the proposal is among those being considered for the new frontier's mission, which is expected to launch in mid 2019 So if you watch the video they they have a great presentation a lot of its Is very much technical and presenting what they want to do But there's some good simulations of of these quad copters or quadrocopters flying around titan going from place to place Which gives them a lot more flexibility they can visit a lot more sites that way Oh, it's awesome. I I want to see this happen. I'm so obsessed with uh Learning more about the planets that are in our solar system Especially the moons as well because of all the potentials of being able to build our own scientific data Just off of analysis that we get from other lands Things that aren't necessarily available on our planet So this is cool and it's such a new and interesting way to develop Uh information from other planets as well that we haven't seen before so i'm not sure how well it'll work But I guess we'll have to see Yeah, yeah, and we'll we'll see if this ends up being the one that that gets selected Yeah, hopefully they uh build in some sort of self-cleaning apparatus or some sort of functionality because you definitely I mean once it's there You're not bringing the quadcopter back in for maintenance. So it has to be super robust It's a simple. It's a simple device But it has dynamic parts and typically with dynamic parts they get gummed up over time even with especially with particulate matter So right just yeah a lot of that is covered in the presentation if you take a look at it Yeah, that's a good point plastic molding company nisei eco co Coated software to let the robot pepper from softbank perform buddhist funeral rites Pepper demonstrated by chanting and tapping the drum at the life-ending industry expo 2017, which is a funerary Industry conference pepper runs $450 to do a ceremony where a human priest costs up to $2,200 One of the problems is not enough people are dying Uh at once in japan because Because people the the birth rate has been going down and people are living longer So those two things combine to reduce the number of funerals that have to be done, which you know You think oh, that's a good thing except if you're a funerary priest because you can't get enough work So the priests are taking on other jobs, which means they're less available for funerals Which ironically means there sometimes aren't enough priests to do the funerals that are Being conducted and that's one of the reasons that that nisei Put on this demonstration now the life-ending industry expo is a really an Out of context a very disturbing name for a conference, but uh, I I think this was Probably as much to get some some some press for nisei eco As anything, but you you didn't have the most uh enthusiastic response to this when we first saw this story today shannon Oh, no. I thought it was a horrible idea I've never been to a beautist a beautist buddhist funeral before but I have been to a buddhist temple and Just the the feeling of spirituality that you get from these human beings that are just completely divulged in their their Rituals for their religion. Um, I feel like having a robot do the Rights at a funeral would completely take you out of scope out of spec for that funeral And I feel like it would just be very different and when it feel like you're actually there spiritually so Even as a person who is not religious myself. I just think that it it takes away some of the uh, the respect and the You know writes richly that you would get at a funeral for that person who has passed away Yeah, I have been to a buddhist funeral at one of my my wife's best friends when her mom or Sorry, her dad passed away Uh, we went to his funeral and it was in a buddhist temple And I was struck at the time how similar a lot of the rituals are Around death, which I don't think is any big surprise and they are very ritualistic in all religions There are there are things you say and things you repeat and so I can see where it would be tempting to say Oh, well, you know, we we only have 450 dollars to give the priest great Let's get let's get the pepper robot to do it And maybe somebody like me would put this in my will like you're gonna have pepper do my my funeral Right, but you're right when you when you really think about it, you know funerals are for the survivors And if that's going to take you out of it, it's if it's going to lighten the mood in the wrong way Uh, that's that's not the best way. I I guess what I guess where I'm getting at I'm kind of thinking this out loud. It certainly changes the tone and for some people that is going to be a deal breaker That is not going to be what they want in a funeral But but for some people that may be what they want, you know, they want They they want to have people smiling and and have a robot up there. I don't know Yeah, I would be one that would want to party during my funeral. So maybe I would like it But I have another question. What if the robot runs out of batteries like in the middle of it? Yeah, you charge the robot or I'm I'm asking for part of my $450 It's a sign from a great beyond that this ritual should stop No, I was wondering if they could meet him halfway Where the priest wouldn't physically have to be there but through the robot You like you would have the priest face like in the screen And in lieu of the yeah, well, that's not the way pepper works. That's an that's an interesting way to do it Uh to save travel time and and but you you could alleviate because you technically would have an actual Blood and flesh priest. They're just You know doing tele-religion. Yeah, you can do that iPad up on a on a robot and have them Come in by google hangout, you know, ethan canan our chat room points out Isn't it really about what's important or the words the actions the sounds or the intent? What's important and I think I think that's well put Whatever That's why I was getting at it feels like if you lose that respect for the person who has passed if you Put a robot up there as opposed to you know putting somebody up there who has lived their life under the priesthood Uh, you know as opposed to a robot again And I think it totally depends on the person because I think you could absolutely be right Uh in my friend's father's case. I I don't think this would have felt appropriate In my case, please have pepper or better yet an open source from hot I'll keep that in mind for you. Tom. Yeah I have to go update my will now The uk has approved the first trials of semi automated truck convoys by the end of 2018 by transport research laboratory Transport research laboratory is really interesting. I don't want to get sidetracked too much But it was a company set up by the uk to test things in the 30s Uh for for transportation and travel and roads and it is now a private company with a nonprofit foundation that runs it Anyway, it's going to conduct these trials up to three trucks will travel in a platoon with a human driver in each one Meanwhile tesla plans to unveil a prototype electric big rig With 200 to 300 mile range next month. That would be just enough range to call it long haul It's at the very very shortest end of long haul scott parry and executive at rider met with tesla and told reuters the range number That's how they found out about it tesla has been out there claiming it's developing electric big rigs with a thousand mile range And self-driving capability. It doesn't look like that's what we're going to see this year though And just to complete the picture. Don't forget dam layer, which has been working on Electric trucks is going to produce start start putting into production a 100 mile range truck That's that's short distance short hauling 30 of us trucking jobs though our regional trips of 100 to 200 miles so a big chunk of Your trips not only in the us but in europe too can be served by these electric trucks and and Possibly save on fuel Yeah, I used to have an uncle Well, I still have an uncle who was a truck driver. He's he's since retired I know one of the arguments with this kind of thing is if you're automating you are also kicking people out of their jobs If we take my uncle for example, he decided to move on from Driving trucks to working in the offices and working on automating the Processes to get products onto those trucks So he found a new experience in the trucking industry that he really appreciated before he retired I think it's really cool that they're trying to find ways to automate these big rigs to you know travel farther because People like my uncle He had to sleep on the side of the road and sometimes he didn't didn't get good sleep because of where he was stuck At or it was loud outside or he was in a parking lot or something like that and he had to sleep So I think it's cool. I think it's really neat that they're trying to do this and it's really positive move Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines.com available as a podcast on the amazon echo on the google home And in the anchor app at anchor dot fm So we have a slack for people at our analysts level on patreon and uh, we have some great conversations in there Yesterday bruce, uh wrote the following possible show topic idea JIT learning or jit learning. It's just in time. That's what that stands for Not quite like in the matrix. He says I know kung fu But my kids don't really want to learn What my parents and I considered life skills they'd rather just find a youtube video if they ever run into it I made one of them helped me change a valve stem in a faucet in their bathroom this week And the eye rolling was almost audible I showed them how to use a toilet plunger several times when they clogged the toilet But when it happened while I was at work this summer, they watched a youtube video on how to do it before trying And that in some ways that's pretty handy But is it good? Do they lack a general knowledge about root causes to even know what to look up or is this better? They can focus on things that are actually interesting to them and only look up life skills when they need them Or will they be aware that they're lacking them? And then he went on to add the example that his eldest is taking driving lessons They insist she learned how to change a tire and she thinks that dumb that's dumb if she gets a flat. She'll just google it Oh boy Well, I don't think I don't think she's thinking that through all the way Because the last thing you want to do when you're on the side of the road at night Because you always have a flat tire at night or when it's raining Or something you don't want to have to sit there and try to get a connection And and look up google and you probably should know how to change the tire before that but That said I'm not against just in time learning in a lot of situations And it's something I've personally taken advantage of a lot I didn't uh have the luxury of having someone show me how to Replace a valve stem or clean out the air vent in a in a dishwasher And those are two things that I have learned within the past several years by watching a youtube video I I could say that I've had the same experience with a lot of financial stuff That I didn't learn when I was growing up like how to get your first car loan And I was able to google it for example But there's a lot of times when you there's things that you can't learn from watching a video online Things that you should learn by getting hands on like um, you know The the things that require your hands a lot more like um cooking you can watch a cooking video But you're not really going to understand it until you actually start doing it yourself And a lot of that requires A lot of hands-on experience to really get good at it Like maybe the first time you can figure it out like sewing is another good example The first time you might be able to do it Okay, but to really get an expertise on a long run it requires a lot of doing it yourself Not just learning once off with a youtube video As as someone who recently moved into a house that requires some work Uh, and also someone who works on their car on occasion when I feel like it um It's good youtube videos and just in time learning remind me of those diy books you used to pick up at the bookstore Oh, sure. Like oh, how do I change a tire to do this? And what I found is they're most useful if you already have a contextual knowledge In order to use it right like for example, I need to pull out the spark plugs on my car But because it uses a Ignition on spark plug not like a distributor cap like the old style it works a little different But I already know that so I know what to look for But if I went to go search for how to change a spark plug Because there's so many different types of cars So many different types of engine setups You could easily get lost and be picking up the wrong information or perhaps Not the exact information that you think you wanted But you wouldn't realize that because you didn't have the contextual information is and that's absolutely the same for cooking Uh, you know things like, you know melt butter. Well, they're assuming you know What the what the point at which butter starts to clarify is and what brown butter is going to do to your recipe They're assuming all kinds of things that if you're the first time you're ever cooking, you don't know that You're just going to be like, okay melt the butter Uh, so and that's that's the minorest of examples But there are all kinds of examples of that and let's walk through this for a minute because I think what we're saying is With anything The more you know about the general space whether it's working on a car Or working on appliances or cooking or sewing The better you are at not only that original task, but related tasks Right. So there's nothing wrong with just in time learning as a trade-off Just in time learning says you shouldn't have to master everything Uh, that's a waste of your time because you don't know what you're going to run into the kids are right there. I think Bruce But you should have a grounding in the basics Someone I wish someone had showed me how to change the oil on my car I wish someone had showed me how to repair a dishwasher I wish someone had had taught me to sew but I didn't get any of those things. I had to teach myself them But once I learned the basics well except for the sewing. I'm still really suck at that But the other two I've gotten better and better and I did actually have uh, my grandmother was great at teaching me cooking So I had some basics, but the more I did it the better I got at it So I think it's a combination of teaching kids. Yeah, just in time learning is there And that's a great resource to run it to to look at things that you've never encountered before But let me teach you the basics and just about how stuff works to give you a leg up because otherwise It'll take you three times as long Right, exactly. I've actually taken this um into account when I've done my own work Because I've grown like for example, I've grown this show called hack tip Which is a jk tip and it's found over on the hack 5 youtube But I've uh, I figured out when I first started on hack 5 that in the infosec industry There's not a lot of good information for newbies for beginners who are just getting into that profession So I took it upon myself to figure out the theory behind all these different software protocols and wireless protocols and data and uh, you know Coding information that you really have to build upon to Understand infosec and I created a show out of it. But in order to get that show across It's not just in time learning It's a whole series of videos that I had to create to really get people understanding Not only how to do the thing, you know how to type in something into wire shark and make it run a thing But also understand the theory behind why it works how it works and how you can actually use this in the real world Not just when you run into this specific problem that i'm using as an example And what we see a lot of times on youtube is just that one video of that one example And not the theory behind it and that's something that you can't replace You can't get that unless you take a long period of time and understand that theory behind it So sure like you could show up on the side of a road and change your tire but If you run into a problem where you're driving like a much larger Truck or something like that or maybe you need to do something else with your car You're not going to learn that from one video that shows you how to change like a motorcycles Tire or something like that. Not fast. Not fast. Yeah Exactly A man, I remember a lot longer the first time I ever had to change a flat tire It was hard It took me a long time and I had to pull out the manual out of the glove compartment And figure out how to do it the next time I had to do it was much faster Because I I already knew a bunch of it. I'm like, oh, right No, I know where the jack is now because I had to do it that last time The other thing is just in time learning requires you to have a good source on youtube Or wherever you're getting your your your information so If you know the basics of how an area works You're going to have a better time judging what the good sources are what who the people are that makes sense I've found this to be absolutely true in doing technology tips You know, that's fairly fairly savvy with technology before I started working at tech tv in 1999 But I quickly found that there are a lot of people out there who post things that aren't exactly right Or are prone to misinterpretation and the more I did health content at tech tv and at cnet The better I got at being able to immediately identify like okay, this one isn't a very good one Let me move on to another one that can help me help me fix this problem faster I ran into the same thing when I was doing infosec work and when I was trying to develop these shows for hack tip It's very hard to find that information and find if you just google one thing and you click on the first page of links You might not necessarily find the tutorial that has every single step written They might assume that you already know something and I think that's so important That's why we have classes on these type kind of things. That's why people go to school You can't replace education in a school because they do take the time to teach you theory behind these kinds of concepts Hopefully life hacks are included in that schooling A lot of times it is not and I think that's where like, uh, you know Older generations come into play and they should take that time to teach you things to get you hands on and take you under Their wing and you know teach you not just stick you in front of youtube and have you learn something there. Yeah, just Oh, sorry, I was just gonna add this like generally if you are one of those people that Does hop on the youtube to pick up something really quick You know be skeptical of Things you see and don't immediately click on the first one thinking aha. I found the answer. That's it It's more of a like, okay. You got something see how it's Jives with what you're trying to do and maybe it might be maybe not I've I did this I was replacing Replacement of the faucets and it's like, oh, wait a minute. I actually don't have this kind of faucet I thought I had and I was watching the I was watching the video It's like I just wasted 20 minutes learning the wrong thing Go back and you know, I I spent a lot of time was a lot of trial and error But that goes back to my point where the more you know about a space The faster you can identify that stuff next time you you need to fix that sink That's not gonna happen to you because you've learned that right Also consider that it is technology. So whenever you are dealing with trying to find information online You are at the will Of your computer So if your computer dies if your wireless isn't working if your phone's battery is dead If you can't get a connection on whatever A side of the road that you're ending up on because your tire is flat You might not necessarily be able to log on to youtube and be able to google whatever you need to search for So keep in mind It's always a good idea to learn these things ahead of time because if you don't you might be To put it that way that's called just too late learning jtl just too late learning. Yes. I love it Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit submit stories vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com and in our facebook group At facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show quick note from derrick about the conversation yesterday on amazon He says i want to point out while advertising doesn't make up the core of amazon's business like it does for google and facebook amazon does actually sell ads with the ability to use collected data to target its users on amazon.com ads Will most likely be focused on pushing one's product But amazon also owns sites like imdb and twitch Which operate more like a traditional digital company making revenue through advertising. Thank you derrick And thank you shannon morse for joining us where can folks find more of your lovely face and information? Oh, we lost uh, we lost shannon's uh audio. So Oh, there we go. Now it's back. Thank you so much for having me on Yeah, you can find all of my information over at hk5.org or tech thing.com We've been doing a lot of cool stuff over on both of those sites and uh, youtube channels as well For example, I just reviewed this 30 ufi genie 35 dollar ufi genie, which basically has amazon echo built in And it's way cheaper than the dots So it's a great alternative if you don't have the money to buy a dot or an amazon echo See, this is the beauty of this space because we mentioned the ufi on dts We didn't have a chance to dig into it. That's why you go get tech thing go to tech thing Give you this the scoop T. E. K. T. H. I. N. G. Dot com. The lovely Lynn Peralta has also been working on art this entire show Len, what do you got for us? Len Len's lens muted. That's why we why are we having problems hearing people? Come on. Don't be afraid Speak up You're gonna be fine. There we go. Okay. There you go. Sorry. I muted myself for some reason I don't know it's anyway What I was saying is that I've done just in time learning as well And uh, you know, I've I've been burned a couple times, but it has come in handy But I do think at least for kids It's important for them to know what is the right way What's smart and what's not here is something that I think every kid should know It's what to do if you are dealing with vampires or vampire clowns Yeah, the worst kind of exactly you you just can't go in and think you can use a stake and a Cross against a vampire clown. They take something completely different. Maybe like rubber noses or something Rubber chickens So it's important that you use just in time learning to know how to how to deal with things and and know, you know Just just know the basics essentially Yeah, no, this is uh, the scariest clown with the cutest kids And I'm really rooting for the kids to hurry up and finish watching that youtube video so they can defeat this clown Yeah, and the end down in the corner. He's saying hey guys vamp clown 82 here. I'm going to show you how to defeat any vampire See I can really relate to this Then that's right. That's absolutely right. I am uh, yeah, I don't know. I had it on the brain today I guess so yeah, that's that's understandable Well, folks, uh, go check it out emperal to store.com. You have to you have to at least go take a look. Uh, it's so good Every week you you amazed me lenn. Thank you so much. 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Thank you. Oh, that was awesome I have to actually take off because I have to i'm going to go look at a house That's been under constructed by a vampire clown. No, it might have been no It's this house that's in our neighborhood That's been under construction for like about better part of the year and they've like done everything to it Tonight's the open house for it. So they're opening up to neighbors before they would never do anything else in my neighborhood If we went to see every one of those, uh, it's ridiculous here But go have fun Are you gonna instagram it? I don't know if i'm an instagram it but it's uh, no, i'm not going to put a bit on it But it's it the house was a total mess. Yeah It was a mess and so i'm really excited to see what it looks like now. So we'll have fun man. All right I will All right, take care everybody Have a good night We need a title roger roger does more than show screens he does I never meant to fly otherwise I ran so far away from Iran, which is a s and o Reference apple being sanctimonian. It's a flock of seagulls reference to not enough people are being sanctioned monion Sanction monious. Okay. All right more polish than substance not enough people are dying death of a job How do you change attire youtube it death of a job actually covers a couple of different Yes, i like that one. I'm gonna vote for that one. All right Uh Don't assume youtube knows all just in a good time The human slide show why is free. Okay iTunes not welcome when I ran iTunes sucks at sewing It's a it's an art form samsung's batteries are not the only thing that's corrupted Uh Pepper don't preach That's a good one Uh TLG the learning google mrs. YouTube the new teacher Pepper don't preach Rely on youtube to master life do not oh, it's like a yoda thing Rely on youtube to master life do not rely on youtube to master life you do not That's didn't even sound like yoda, but I thought it was I like death of a job I like death of a job until I heard pepper don't preach now. I'm torn. I like don't preach. Yeah I like two versus the one Two versus the one I ordered one of those headsets too. So I know you heard some echo today. Is that where we get enough from you I wasn't sure if it's you or Must have been because I know roger muted him and len so it was probably Probably my speakers it came and went too. That was the weird thing is I didn't hear it at all before the show and then I mentioned that one time because it was It was bigger and and then it sort of went away for a while and then it came back. So I don't know Hello, I don't hear it now You don't hear it now. No Okay, because I I lowered my Uh speakers, but then I turned it up and now it's up again Well, if I don't hear it, maybe I talk louder when no, I still don't hear it. That's a pepper And now I hear it on roger and now I hear it again Game day sunday do some things just then I'm gonna get a one of those little headsets in that you guys recommended. So once that delivers If it is coming from my end, it'll be taken care of just use out your buds I don't have any good ones though. I used to have apple ones But I sold or and or threw away all of my old ones So now all I have is like a giant headset But I don't like to wear this during the show because it hurts my ears so much Oh, are those the ones that sit on yours? They don't go around them. Yeah, they sit up over your ears They're for gaming and they're really nice, but They just hurt the side of my head. So I don't wear them very often Are they do you wear them a lot? Just for gaming So no not very often Like if you had a basketball or something you might be able to like Stretch them wear them out. Yeah, I just get that you know, that's a good idea. Yeah, I'll just have my husband wear them I don't remember No, he's Like a pretty durable size if you get a watermelon you want to eat but you needed to Roger, you should rat yourself out. You're always talking about how you think your but your head is very big I don't think I know I have a I have a larger than average large head Like I'm at the upper tier of what they sell brains, man That's what my parents say I hope I hope belly doesn't come out. Well, she already has a beluga dome. Yeah, at least smart Too smart too smart They learned too quickly fast Yeah, I used to for a while I was using a head earbuds here and just wrapping them behind my head around my ear So you can really see them, but then they'd fall out all the time and it was not comfortable Yeah, I like the little what are they called the ifb's? Yeah, that's what I've got now All I used to wear one up a twit and it was great but I was uh I ordered one Oh good I was doing a recording yesterday where I was putting someone in the left channel and me on the right And suddenly I was like wow your volume went really low Because I forgot I was only getting to a channel Oops Oh, yeah, this has a headset jack on it sweet my yeti. Yeah, this thing. What is this thing? It's an otig, right? Oh Cool. I can't remember how to spell it Yeah, I ordered, uh, whatever it was that you recommended to me the last last time I was on Yeah, I think it's otig Otig Yeah, whatever it was I don't know. I'll put it in my new influencer store on amazon There you go. Once I uh No, but uh, so if you're Are they just I don't know. I don't know I can't be uh the url doesn't work yet, but it looks like we've got all of the functionality So I think we're pre-approved. They just they're probably can't put in things as fast as people are applying for it But yeah, if you go to tommorow.com slash store You'll see a link on there that says tom's amazon store Which is actually a store dot amazon.com slash sub br com dash 20 Which is just my affiliate code And that here. I'll I'll show it on the the video that Is is what's getting replaced with this influencer store They're getting rid of this in october. This is something anybody could set up Whereas the influencer thing you have to be approved for okay interesting yeah I currently have affiliate links and those work fine But it would be great to just be able to link out to us Just one link that I can be like go here and check out my recommendations Well, and that's why I was a little scoffing at this when I first read about it I'm like so they give you a vanity url I mean that's nice because it's an amazon url, but It's not really like that different and if they're not changing the affiliate percentage at all It's not different at all But I also once I started setting it up I was like, oh, they've done a bunch of really good interface changes to this thing So it's way easier to add products than it was with the a store Uh, so it's it there's more to it than just that Now I'll need to find info on their commission rates Yeah They're being pretty cagey about that. I bet they're giving different ones to different people That would explain why you heard the beta people This one's 4th of April 2017 says influencer program will offer higher commissions than their affiliates That was from cpcstrategy.com. I don't know who they are. I don't know who they are Let me see if they have a link in here I would influencer program That's the kind of place that might just say that because they thought it made sense It could also be that the influencers they signed up at first were getting a better rate But now that they're opening it up to everybody, they don't want to promise I mean they can't afford to give everybody a better rate Yeah, no, they can't I'll take a better rate. I'm just saying if you're listening Amazon Totally give me a better rate Fine, I mean the the affiliate links are pretty awesome They give pretty good rates, but You know, it's a few percentage points or whatever Yeah, and I already had that that a store. So it's the same affiliate program. It's all in the same listing Yeah It's nothing new Let me see if my my influencer I'm going to tell everyone to buy Fidget spinners Fidget spinners because I'm an influencer Go to my amazon store at amazon.com slash shop slash daily tech news show and buy a fidget spinner Wonderful fidget spinners Okay influencers. There's the section Pending is my page So my status is that I I'm accepted but my page hasn't launched that okay So I have the same thing they're taking a while to spin up these pages Okay Because they're getting so many well cool. I hope that does mean that both of us got approved. It looks like we did sweet So Pepper don't preach is the official name Hey, have you heard they came out with a for logitech came out with a 4k webcam and apparently it's horrible to try to set it up Well, this is the problem with logitech is everything you buy from them that isn't the c920 has a problem Yep, you can see that 20 is awesome on a workhorse, but it's how many years old now I know it's so old. I think I have the c920. Oh, it's not written on here I like how all of us are just like I just love another c920 Yeah Yeah, and they had a c922 And I looked at it and it's like oh, it had some firmware thing to make it easier to stream on youtube I'm like, well, I need to pay extra for that. It was like one another 20 bucks I don't want that crap. I just want the good camera And until there's a really good 4k one That's all neat C9 Yeah, I don't know what it is. I think I don't know Maybe they built the one and they just laid off the entire sensor team. It's like, well I just had to keep making it So what's the lodge? What's the 4k one? It's the 4k pro That's the model number Or is it the brio? 4k webcam, it's the 200 bucks Oh, is it the brio? This one has a 4k image sensor in hdr And it's a logitech 4k pro webcams 200 bucks Yeah, okay It's more expensive than the brio Yeah part number pn 960 001 178 Although the logic tech 4k ultra hd pro webcam looks exactly like the brio Yeah, it might be just but it's $10 more No, the brio 4k is 200 bucks on logitech I'm looking at amazon amazon's got the brio for $159.99 and the 4k ultra hd pro for $169.99 Although this is refurbished Oh interesting Interesting certified but still refurbished Only eight left in stock. I should buy all eight right now Oh, I see the brio webcam has a right light three So it does hdr But the I don't know the 4k pro also says it does hdr man I don't know man. Oh, man. They're confusing me I think they're the same camera and some guys thought well, you know what? I'm just gonna give it a different the brio makes a big deal about video conferencing So I bet it's got software in the firmware for video. I bet you whatever it's packaged software. Yep with the camera Like it's not even firmware. It's just like install this and it's just and it's just a serial number. It's not even a disk You're right Totally that's totally what it is. It's just bundled software. It's not even firmware You know one of the shots of these guys are we're down to We're down to exactly the same number of patrons as last month So we need another patron now Come back come back come back I'm sorry. I'll be better slideshowing. I'm already a patron. I can I patron twice? No, that doesn't yeah, no, I have multiple accounts. Just don't don't don't cancel I won't cancel. I would never cancel on you tom. Thank you. I appreciate that too much to me and likewise I will never cancel on you either Thanks. I cannot make that promise because I'm not a I can't see to the future. 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