 What he represents is patriarchy. We're here to do work as men, as patriarchy. There's nothing more natural than being a father. Welcome back to 21 Patriarch. Our next speaker is from New Zealand. He lives here in America and is helping us fight a major battle that we're in as a country. He is a documentary filmmaker. He's a contributor for one of my favorite news sources, The Epoch Times. He is an expert on Marxism, Socialism, and a lot of the other evilsisms. Will you please welcome Trevor Loudon. Thanks, sir. Hi, everybody. Can you all hear me down the back? Okay. Good. Can you understand the Southern accent? I hope you can. There's always worries me. I'll just start. Reagan said you should always start with a story. Anybody, any refugees from California here today? Yeah. Okay. A few of you. You made a good decision. I was in Los Angeles, and I love street food, so I walk up to a vendor, and he gave me the food, gave me the change, and said, hey, you have an accent. Where are you from? I said, well, I'm from New Zealand. So he said, well, where's that? So to make it really simple for him, I said, look, it's down in the South Pacific near Australia. He said, ah, where Arnold Schwarzenegger comes from. So you can understand why they vote like they do out there, right? Now, people ask me all the time, because I tour all over America. My subject is mainly communism, socialism, and its impact on mainstream politics. And people ask me all the time why, as a New Zealander, I should care about what happens in this country. And I said, it's really simple. The first reason is simple, gratitude. You know, my country was facing invasion during World War II by the Imperial Japanese Army. And if it hadn't been for the sacrifice of your fathers and uncles and grandfathers at the battles of Guadalcanal and the Coral Sea and Midway, we would have been toast. And that's still a memory in my country today. The second reason is related, but a little more selfish. You know, Ronald Reagan had it right. This is the last best hope for mankind. If this country loses its constitution, its liberty, its economic dynamism, and its military superiority, all of which are under huge threat right now, will soon be living in a world run out of Moscow and Beijing and Tehran and Havana. Do you know any men or any women who'd like to leave their children to a world like that? So anybody who cares about liberty has to care about this country. But I want to talk today, start today with a love story. And it's not your typical Romeo and Juliet type of thing. But I think it's telling where we are as a society today. I've got a friend who was a top general in Delta Force. He's got bullet wounds here. He's got bullet wounds here. He's led his men into combat many times. He sacrificed a lot for this country. But a few years ago, he had to make one of the bravest decisions of his life. And it was right here in this country. And there was nobody shooting at him, but it took a lot of courage. So he had a 16-year-old son, and the son was smoking dope every single day. This is a very strong Christian family. And this was upsetting the family, creating a lot of tension, a lot of arguments. And this was going on for months and months, and Dad would say, son, you've got to stop smoking this crap. And they said, if you don't stop smoking this, I'm going to have to kick you out of the house. And of course, mother would say, no, no, we can't do that. We can't kick him out. We've got to get him through this. We've got to help him and be supportive. We've got to get him through this. Well, one day, Dad just got sick of it. So he picks up the son, puts him in the back of the car, and takes him down to the local shopping mall. And says, son, out. This is your home until you start to learn to love your family more than your love marijuana. Bye. And he drove away from there, praying all the way home and choking back tears. This very brave soldier. Five days, five days, they heard nothing, five horrible days. They heard nothing. The fifth day, they get a knock on the door. And here's Junior saying, Dad, can I please come home? I'm never going to smoke that junk again. And he came home and he kept his word. And now he's doing pretty darn well. Married, has a business, has family. Everything's gone right. But the point I'm getting out here, folks, is there is two kinds of love. We all know the love of the mother. We all need that, you know. She'll pick you up when you skin your knees. She'll put a bandage on it. She'll read your stories. She'll bake cookies for you. She'll always, she'll go to your graduation. She's always going to be there for you. And we all know that every family needs that. But there's also the love of the father, who will boot your little backside if you disrespect your mother, who will hold you to account, who will take his son to the ballgame, out fishing, or to the woodshed if necessary. Who will teach his son to be a man, who will protect his siblings, respect his mother, and be a guardian to those weaker than himself. And he will teach his daughter to be a lady, to respect herself, and look for a man as least as good as he is. That is, we all know, folks, that the ideal family has both elements. You have the feminine love. You have the masculine love. And together, they give any child the best possible chance for the future. Because... But we all know that masculine love has been heavily, heavily denigrated in our society. You know, it's not something to be proud of. It's not something that's even acknowledged. We know that virtually every advertisement you see on TV is some stupid man being corrected by either his children or his wife. You know, masculine love is what stormed the beaches at Normandy. Masculine love is what built this country. It's the people who went out and conquered the frontier, built universities, built churches, built cities. That's masculine love. And it is absolutely essential for any functioning society. Every family needs it. Every church needs it. Every community needs it. It's absolutely essential. We were designed a certain way. There's feminine attributes and there's masculine attributes. And ideally, they synthesize and the sum, the whole is the greater than the sum of the parts. So what happened? Well, a lot of it's to do with religion, I think. Now, if you go to most churches in America today, the favorite word is love. It's virtually the only thing they talk about a lot of the time. Love, Jesus loves you. You've got to love your neighbor. You've got to love everybody. And it's pretty unconditional love. What do you think is the dominant form of love in most churches today? Masculine or feminine? Feminine by a country mile. Where's the old priests in the Catholic Church who used to take the young boys out back, put boxing gloves on them and teach them how to box? The old priest had served in the Korean War and World War II, or Vietnam. Where is the pastor who would preach a sermon that would chill your blood, that would look directly into you and hold you to account? So you felt like you're in a cold shower. You were trembling most of the way through it. You know, because Christianity used to be a very masculine religion. You know, Jesus didn't go into the temple and say, can we please negotiate a settlement, guys? He went in and turned the damn tables over. He didn't say, go forth and sin no more. Do not do what you like. I'll set it right with Dad. It was a very strong religion. You know, the hymns reflected that onward Christian soldiers marching as to war. That's not the kind of hymn you hear in most Christian churches today. You're most likely going to go to church with a pastor wearing skinny jeans, a wispy bed, a little bit long around the edges, going to take you to his coffee shop and, you know, just nurture you a little bit and be nice to you. You'll never ever be held to account. You'll never hear anything out of the Old Testament. You'll never hear, you know, anything about sin or hell or redemption. You'll hear a lot about love, a lot about welcoming refugees, global warming, social justice, critical race theory, and all of that marks as crap. That is the dominant Christianity in America today. And so why is our society like it is? You know, we were given three institutions, really, to govern ourselves. You know, from a Christian point of view, we were given the church, we were given the family, we were given civil government. And for 2,000 years, the church was the leading moral authority. And the church was very masculine. The church upheld the masculine values. It expected people to fight for their communities. It expected men to be the leaders of their household. And if you had a man in your community who was beaten as wife, you would find some men who would go around and give him a bit of a tickle-up and tell him to sort his act out. That was the kind of Christianity that built this country. It was a lot more masculine than the Christianity we see today. Well, has anybody heard the concept situation ethics? Situation ethics. It's a dominant moral system in our country today. You know, the old system used to be, everybody would reference the Ten Commandments. I'm talking the Judea... You know, Judea Christ, you know, they brought us through the people that weren't brought up in that tradition. But that was the dominant moral system of America. Everybody looked to the Ten Commandments. You might have been the biggest drunk in town. You might have been a philanderer and a petty thief or whatever. But at least you knew you were sinning. At least you knew that there were certain commandments that you were supposed to live by. Even if you didn't live them, you knew what they were. Well, and this was the dominant moral system for many, many years in America. And as we know, religion is the father of culture. Culture is the father of politics. You know, your religion affects your culture. Your culture affects the politics. So if your politics is a sewer and your culture is in massive decline, what is that telling you about your spiritual foundations? Is there a bit of an indication that they may not be sound? Well, Joseph Fletcher came along in 1966. He was the leading Protestant theologian of the early 20th century in America. Respected all over the world, wrote dozens of books, lectured all over the world. He was at the Episcopalian Divinity School at Harvard, et cetera. He was a real moral arbiter in this country in the middle of the 20th century, effectively. In 1966, he writes this book. It's called Situation Ethics. And this is what he says. Forget the Old Testament. Forget all those strict commandments. They are not suitable for modern life. Modern life is way more complex. Instead, if you want to make moral decisions, you look at the situation around you. You look at the circumstances. And then you make the decision based on love. Now, what kind of love do you think he was referencing there? The masculine, tough kind of love? Or more the wimpy type, you know, let's say everything. You know, the more flexible kind of love. What do you think he was referencing? Well, I can tell you it was more the feminine side of love. Absolutely. So this is how it would work. Say you got a family and you love your family, but you've got no job and you've got no money. And your kids are crying, they're hungry. So if you're using Situation Ethics, you could go down to the local supermarket and steal some stuff. That would be morally justified under Situation Ethics because love is the final arbiter. Not law, love. You could be a young girl in college, you know, trying to imagine I'm a young girl in college, right? You know, why shouldn't I be? You know, it's fair enough, isn't it? You're a young girl in college. You're just starting, you're near the end of your degree. You get pregnant. The guy's not around. You're thinking, oh, you know, I've got a baby inside me. I can't really give that baby the kind of love and family that it needs. You know, the guy's not around. He's not going to help me. He's not going to support me. I'm near the end of my degree. When I get my degree, I'll be earning lots of money. And if I have future children, I'll be able to provide for them. Maybe the most loving thing to do is to have an abortion. And you could justify that on situation ethics because you're looking at your situation and you are the moral arbiter based on what you think is the most loving thing to do. You can see how flexible that could get. You can justify almost anything. You're in a big company. The boss, you hate him. Why shouldn't you embezzle half a million dollars and give it to your family or your favorite charity? Because he is a total jerk. And it's real loving. I could, you know, I could have some holidays and I could treat my family and I'd give some to charity. And situation ethics justifies almost anything. Well, this book transformed American Christianity and American society. It's now the dominant moral system in this country right now. Don't believe me. You just observe how things go around you. Situino, people who defraud the insurance companies, the people who, you know, punch the time clock at work when they shouldn't have really punched the time clock. The pastor who won't preach the truth, he just wants to preach a watered-down version of the gospel because he doesn't want to drive all his people away because that would be too harsh and it wouldn't be the loving thing to do. That's all situation ethics. You know, if you don't accept that, if you believe in the Ten Commandments, you don't lie. You don't lie, period. You don't justify your lies because it's a really loving thing to do. You don't justify adultery because you really love this woman over here and you really don't like your wife too much. You know, you set your rules. You set your boundaries and you live by them and if you make a decision, you know why you make that decision. So Joseph Letcher, when he was a young man, he went to Berkeley and Berkeley was very conservative in those days, but he got kicked out of Berkeley because part of the degree, part of the requirement to become, to graduate from Berkeley in those days is you had to do ROTC. You had to put on a uniform and practice with guns to graduate from Berkeley and that was common to universities all over the country and he refused. He was a pacifist. So he didn't graduate. He went to Alabama, worked with the sharecroppers union, went to Cincinnati, worked with a whole bunch of communist fronts in Cincinnati, went to Divinity College, got ordained, worked his way up through the Christian academic hierarchy of Boston. He was a member of the World Peace Council, a Soviet front run by Stalin to basically push for US demilitarization so the communists could take this country down. He was the leader of the American Soviet Friendship Society. He was identified under oath as a Communist Party supporter in Harvard over several years. He wrote his book, transformed American Christianity, dropped out of the church, declared himself an atheist and started a group advocating for post-Borth abortion, meaning infanticide for intellectually handicapped children up to 10 years old. It will not surprise you, he also worked with Margaret Sanger to set up Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood is a communist movement, folks. It has been run by communists since day one. It was the Socialist Workers Party that helped to get Roe v. Wade passed in 1973. Abortion was then and still is a communist movement. Absolutely. But so Fletcher was a communist. He was never a Christian, but he transformed the church. Could he have done that standing in the middle of Times Square with a big hammer and sickle armband? Or did it take the respectability of the church to get his message out there? Well, that is the American church today, folks. You have a church, it is woke. There's a direct connection from the Marxists of the 1920s who deliberately infiltrated the American church. The Communist Party told their members in the 1920s, go up Baptist, go back to the Baptist. If you're brought up Mormon, go back to the Latter-day Saints. If you're brought up Jewish, go back to the synagogue. If you're brought up Catholic, go back to the church. Not that they wanted their people to become Christian or Jewish or Mormon. They just wanted to influence the church. Because they knew the backbone of this country was the church. The masculine church. And they knew if they wanted to destroy this country, they had to A, feminize the church, and B, socialize the church. Move it to the left. And the modern woke movement, which is all through the evangelical churches now, it's all through the Baptist churches even, is moving the American church way to the left. And it has feminized the church beyond all recognition. Yes, there are some good pastors left. Yes, there's some independence there. You know, who stand up for what they were taught, what they actually believe. But most churches today have adopted some element of the wokeness. Most of them are pretty darn feminine. And very few of them hold anybody to account or talk about sin or redemption or accountability at all. The Old Testament's virtually been abolished. And here's a point. They talk about love. In the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, do you know how many times the love of God are mentioned in those four Gospels? One time. One verse. And but that is the only verse, you know, for God so loved man He gave His only Son. That's the only time. Really, it is, should be, and always was, all about the law. Law comes before love. If you cannot obey God's law, you shouldn't be getting God's love. If you cannot obey man's law, you're not fit for civil society. If you can't keep your agreements with your wife, if you can't keep your business agreements, if you can't follow the law, you are not a man. Law comes before love. And law has been abolished in the churches and it is being abolished in our society. So who's been doing this, folks? As I said, Joseph Fletcher was a big part of it and undercover communist. The communists put all their people back into the churches in the 20s. By the 1930s, they had control of most of the mainstream churches, Episcopalian, Methodist, etc. They joined them up into the National Council of Churches, which was affiliated with the World Council of Churches, which was run by the Soviet KGB. There's a direct line, but a lot of people left the mainstream churches, they are the left Christianity altogether, or they went into the evangelical movement. Well, and the evangelical movement was what was behind electing Ronald Reagan and to a large degree, Donald Trump. Now you think if the left has control of Hollywood, control of the Democratic Party, control of part of the Republican Party, control of the education system and the judiciary and most of the media, but these crazy Christians, evangelicals, go out and vote for Ronald Reagan's and Donald Trump's, who then set their agenda back about 10 years. You think that made the left happy? So there's been a big push in the last 10 years through the Gospel Coalition, Tim Keller and others, Sojourners, Jim Wallace, all connected back to the communist movement of the 30s and 40s, direct connections to bring Marxism into the evangelical churches and the Baptists. And now the Southern Baptists, the so-called very straight Bible believing, they don't allow women preachers, all this kind of thing. Well, that's going to be going pretty soon. They preach against homosexuality, that's almost gone. Even these churches now are feminized and socialized. So this is affecting the culture, it's affecting the politics and it doesn't leave a masculine man very many places to go for a bit of spiritual help, for a bit of spiritual connection. So there's been a war on masculinity because there's been a war on America. The Soviets, now the Chinese communists, understood they could never take America unless they weakened America first. And believe me, folks, the goal of communism has never wavered. It is world domination. It cannot exist any other way. I had a friend who trained in Moscow in the 80s. You know, he trained as a communist in Lennon's Institute for Higher Learning. Three and a half thousand students there at any one time, learning racial agitation, unionism, feminism, learning all of this stuff. Three thousand people there and they were told by the Soviet tutors back then, socialism doesn't work. It's a mess. It doesn't work. It will only work when we have the whole world under our control and then we can abolish the wage system worldwide, then everybody will be dependent on us. Then it will work. So we sort of thought, well, the Soviet Union had a bit of a setback and we didn't have to worry about this stuff. So we all took our eye off the ball and our China's about to clean our clock with Russian help, by the way. You know, the Chinese Navy's five times bigger than America's Navy now. They've just launched a missile that can fly twice round the world before it hits its target. They've got more men under arms than we have. And what about our men? They're getting ready for war. Our soldiers are getting ready for mascara. You know, what's Biden doing right now? He's purging every patriot. He's purging every Trump supporter, every conservative, every Christian he can find because he is working for the other side folks. Absolutely he is. His whole family's been working for Moscow or Tehran or Beijing since 1972 people. You know, you look at that thing in Afghanistan. What a big mistake Afghanistan. How could anybody be so stupid as to bring all the troops out while you still got thousands of people on the ground? How could anybody be so incompetent? Biden is incompetent, but do you think Susan Rice and Barack Obama and the Chinese who run him, do you think they're incompetent? They just told the whole world that America can no longer be trusted. That America can't protect its allies. That it's no use working for America because they'll sell you out straight away. That's what that was about. That gave a whole bunch of arms to America's enemies. It gave China a free pass on its western front. If China wanted to attack the Pacific, they had this big fat American air base right on their western flank. What would have been a problem? Well, that ain't a problem anymore because they own it now. So we are being set up for revolution. But I get off the topic a little bit because you guys are here because this is a conference about men and masculinity and the attacks on men and masculinity. So it surprises me, it shocks me deeply when I say things like you know the feminist movement is communist, don't you? But what, really? Really? Are you serious? You know the LGBTQ movement. That's communist. You do know that, right? What, really? No. Can't be. What do you mean? So what is communism? See, many people on our side think communism is just an economic system. It's where the government takes over the means of production and it can be defeated by better economics. We'll just show them a better system and the people will vote with their feet. And we thought we'd won this great victory over Russia and we cheered when China started adopting market policies and Vietnam started adopting market policies. We cheered. We trade with them. We helped them build up their military because we thought communism was finished because we thought communism was an economic system. That's only a tiny part of it, people. You look, what is communism, really? Communism is revolution. What is revolution? Revolution is overturning the existing social order to establish something else. A classless society that tells us, no it's not, it's overturning the order so that basically Satan can rule the earth. That's what it is. Because we were given the family. We were given the church. We were given civil government. Are all three of those institutions under massive attack right now? The feminist movement is about destroying the family because that's the structure that holds our society together. The Marxists are in the churches because that's our spiritual foundation. The Marxists are in civil government because that's our social order. All of these three things, when the church is strong, the families will be strong and civil government will be kept in its place. When the church has been pushed out of it to the margins and been feminized and weakened, the families go to hell and the government gets bigger and bigger to take up the surplus, to fill in the gaps. Is that where we are right now, folks? We are in a revolution now, people. It's feminism. It's the LGBTQ movement. It's the Black Lives Matter movement. It is the environmental movement. It is the movement to stop us being energy-independent. It's the anti-military peace movement. All of these things are communism. Communism isn't just an economic system. It is a system of overthrowing every institution we have that keeps us stable and prosperous and free. It's everything. They learned a long time ago that the economics wasn't going to inspire people. A lot of these radical feminists don't care about economics. Black Lives Matter doesn't care about economics. They care about race. The feminists care about gender, gender oppression. The old communist model, when they first started, was right. It was the working class would overthrow the capitalists. Now it is the women will overthrow the men. The oppressed peoples of colour will overthrow white Christian capitalism. The gay movement will overthrow the family. The environmental movement will overthrow the American free market system. All of these are communist movements designed to overthrow the world's greatest republic. The greatest society that's ever been because if they can overthrow America, no one will stand. And they will have the world communism they've been trying to get since 1848. Even before that. Communism's always been with it. It just was called different things. You know, Marx made a pseudo-science out of it. Lenin was a tactician. He worked out how the Marxists could come to power and how they could keep power. But the first step was the economic revolution, but that failed. You look at the last attempt at economic revolution in this country, the Occupy movement of 2011. The 99% versus the 1%. That was an economic revolution. But it didn't really go that far, did it? It got a few headlines. It was around for a few months. Then the police broke it up and everything was fine again. But look at Black Lives Matter. It's a Chinese-directed communist operation. There weren't cities all over America. Killed many cops. Did huge damage. But you had churches taking a knee to them. Big corporations giving them lots of money. They have all this respectability. But it's a Chinese-communist operation run out of the Chinese consulate in San Francisco. But it's a communist operation. But how many Americans understand that? So if they can't understand Black Lives Matter as a communist operation, when they talk about Marxism openly, how do you think most Americans understand that feminism is a communist operation? The LGBTQ movement is a communist operation. You look at the greats, Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan. Every one of them was a member of the Communist Party or Democratic Socialists of America. They were all communists. Emmeline Pankhurst, the great suffragette of the early 20s who, you know, the suffragettes were throwing themselves under horses to the king's horses in Britain, you know, the races, to show their cause. Emmeline Pankhurst was a Communist Party member. They were all communist folks. The greats of the feminist movement were socialists or communists. Not saying they didn't have some grievances. Of course they did. Just like Black Lives Matter has some legitimate grievances, a few. You know, there is some exploitation of people by nasty capitalists sometimes. But if they can't find a legitimate grievance, they'll make one up. Absolutely they'll make one up. So you look at the LGBTQ movement. Started by a man called Harry Hay. He founded the Mattachine Society in the 1940s in Los Angeles to advocate for the rights of... They didn't even have a word gay. They didn't even call them homosexuals in those days. They called them things like peculiar, something like that. But he advocated for that movement. And then he built up a movement. And he was a member of the Communist Party. But he left the Communist Party, not because he was no longer a Communist, because it was embarrassing to the Communist Party to have an open homosexual in their ranks at that time. Because social moors were different. And also they thought any homosexual in the ranks was liable to blackmail by the FBI. They might become an informant against the Communist Party. So he left. But they still called him a friend for many, many years. Then they had the Stonewall Riots. The Communist joined straight in on that. Act Up, a very famous radical Communist group. It's run by Liberation Road. It's run by Socialist Workers Party. All of these movements are Communists. And the 1950s, no, 1970s, a group of radical leftists, many Communists, got their selves entrenched in the American Psychological Association and got the definition of homosexuality changed from a mental disorder to just a variation, a sexual variation. And that gave the homosexual movement the opportunity to start spreading their tentacles into everything. Homosexuals are 1 to 2% of the population. And I got nothing against them. I wish them well, you know? But you'd think they were 50% of the population by the amount of power that they have. They have a hell of a lot more power than most of you guys have. Is that a fair comment? And it comes to the judiciary system. You know what kind of deal a man gets in the current judiciary system in this country, in the courts, et cetera. The radical feminists took over the courts. The homosexuals got involved because they are activists. This is all they do all day long. The adoption system, you know, in New Zealand where I come from, the radical feminists took over the adoption system. They used to have, I think, 12,000 abortions a year and about 4,000, 4 to 10,000 adoptions a year in New Zealand. The feminists took it over. There's now 100 adoptions a year and 17,000 abortions. The feminists do not want adoption. They do not want kids growing up in good families. They want either abortion or people growing up in welfare families. That is what they want. So feminism has been attacking the family and every opportunity they possibly can. Most men are weak and beta. How do you get past this? How do you be a real man? How do you be a husband and a father? That has been where we dropped the ball as men is because we're too accepting. We're too tolerant. I'm calling for intolerance for evil. We need to be able to properly identify with the definition what is masculinity. We need men to stand up and do heroic things. Building a tribe of people who are of like mind, who you can depend on, who will hold you accountable, who will call you on your VS. I call the official tagline for now, the 2011 convention, is America's last stand for masculinity. I think it is. It is a reflection of the atmosphere really. You come out and you consciously attend and start talking with these people because people who are coming here are coming here to discuss big ideas, important ideas. Not just talking about being masculine but, okay, you've done all the self-development. What are you going to do with it? And I'm talking the radical militant feminism. I'm not talking that your daughter wants to go to college. I want my daughter to have every opportunity she can possibly have. But I do not want the legal system of this country tilted in favor of one sex or another. I do not want men being denigrated in every aspect of culture you can find and the masculine values being drummed out of my kid in school. I'll tell you a little example from New Zealand. This is a few years ago, you know, and we've got this stuff way before you got it. I came to my kid's preschool and he's four years old at the time, right? My son, he's here today. I'm not sure where he is now. And the teacher came up to me and said, hey, James has done something rather inappropriate today. And I was like, oh, what? Is he sworn? Has he hit somebody? What's he done? And I said, okay, what did he do? Well, he and another boy got a broomstick and they were pretending it was a gun and they were pretending to shoot some of the other people, some of the other kids. I said, yeah, well, what's the issue? They said, well, well, no, look, this is totally inappropriate. We can't have people, boys doing violent stuff or pretending to be soldiers or cowboy. We can't have that here. And I said, well, how do you deal with that kind of situation? Well, we talk to the boys and we get them to pretend the broomstick is something else. So it's like a bazooka or something. And she goes, ah! And I said, well, I'm real pleased to know that my boy wants to play with guns. That's good. I'm teaching the right stuff. And we are going to walk out to our car and me and him are going to machine gun each other all the way across the car park. But this is everywhere, folks. Am I lying here? Am I exaggerating? This is destroying our society because our society is built for men and women. And men have a very clearly defined role and they have leadership responsibilities and they're supposed to protect. They are supposed to be out there protecting and building businesses and looking after their kids and being a strong role model. Any woman you know wants to really have a husband she doesn't respect that isn't strong. Does any woman really want that? Well, I tell you that, but I really don't think so because they're not happy when they get it. So, and a woman has a very clearly defined role too. She's the nurturer. I do not want women in combat, folks. I think it's immoral and corrupt. Women are not designed for that. Most men aren't designed for it, people. You know, that's harsh. I remember speaking to a woman who had been in combat. She'd been a tarot gunner in Iraq when you weren't even supposed to have them. And that woman was on so many drugs that you wouldn't believe it. No, men have a hard time with combat. But putting women in combat is evil. It is just not right. And I am disgusted at our Republican leaders who didn't raise a peep when they started talking about drafting women, women in combat, as though this is something good. We should be ashamed of that. Allowing women to go into combat when that is our role. Women have their role and they can overlap a lot. And I'm all about independent women, but there are certain things, people, that that's our job and there are certain things that's their job. I'm happy they have babies. That's great. I'm happy they can lactate. I've never envied them for that, you know? But I think they are happy that we can fight wars, that we can stand up for them, that we can provide. Am I a little bit of a troglodyte here, folks? Well, I'm very proud to be one. Absolutely proud to be one. And we wouldn't be here today as we are even worrying about a conference like this if a whole bunch more of us have been standing up for a whole bunch longer. That's the reality. We let it slide, we let it slide, we let it slide, we made compromises. Well, we've given that, we'll compromise here. And now where are we now? On the verge of losing our country, verge of losing our society. Many of us have already lost our kids. We've lost our families. We're going to lose everything if we don't stand up, people. Because what we are facing is godless communism. There is no question about that. This is in our politics. It's in our culture. It's in our churches. And it's destroying the traditional roles of our families. It's destroying the foundations of our families. It's destroying masculinity. Because if you want to take down a country, you don't really have to demoralize the women that much. It's the men you have to demoralize. It's the men you have to demasculinize. It's the men you have to turn from soldiers into wimps. You know, as you say, how many of the snowflakes today would you feel comfortable charging to storm the beaches at Normandy? And I'm not blaming them. They brought up in a culture that doesn't value masculinity. Many of them don't have fathers in the family. They don't know what a man is. I had a friend in Australia. He was an Australian Army sergeant. And they had to tone down the induction. You know, what you call it here, boot camp. When the sergeant swears at you and kicks you, and forces you to swim through swamps and run around the prey ground with your gun over your head and he does it endlessly. Well, I had to tone it down. Tone it way down because the boys were crying. The boys would start crying because they'd never had. They'd never been yelled at by a man in their life. Many of these young boys had never been yelled at. They'd never been in a fight with another boy. They'd never had to put themselves in any real physical danger. And this was 20 years ago in Australia, which is a pretty macho sort of country, generally speaking, comparatively speaking. But so this is communism. It's taken us down in every single front. And we have to name it for what it is. Imagine trying to fight World War II if you couldn't talk about Nazis. Just those German extremists over there. Well, we've got to acknowledge where we are. There is a great spiritual power in acknowledging where we are and who the enemy is. Because the first step in any fight back is acknowledging your position. And too many Americans are blind to what we see, are living in fantasy land, living in la-la land. Don't understand we're on the verge of losing this country and are not willing to face reality. When we face reality, I don't know any of your spiritual beliefs. I don't know if you have them. I don't know what religion you come to, but here's something common to everybody. Courage depends on faith. If you have faith in yourself, if you have faith in a God, if you have faith in your leadership, faith in your society, you have courage. You'll take on anything. We have had the faith driven out of us. We don't have faith in our own abilities. We don't have faith in our institutions. Many of us don't have faith in any higher power. So is it any surprise that there's a big lack of courage out there? That's where we are. And courage comes from facing reality, then digging deep, re-establishing your faith, and then going out to fight. You know, we're a small number people, but when did God in the Old Testament ever raise up a large army to smite a small army? Remember any examples of that? Gideon's army versus the Horde, David versus Goliath, your founding fathers, a bunch of farmers and lawyers and blacksmiths with squirrel rifles went up against the world's greatest military empire. You think they would have had to have a little bit of faith to do that? Think they'd have to have faith in George Washington, their leadership, faith in their mission, faith in their religion. You think they could have done that without faith? So we have to face reality and we have to deepen our faith and we have to have courage beyond limit. Because I believe when we have faith and we stand strong, I think that's when we start to get help. Help from other guys, help from other people, but also spiritual help as well. But we've got to face reality, we've got to have faith, and we've got to have courage. We've got to have those things, we can conquer anything. So I'll call it quits there, but I just want to ask any questions. Anybody's got anything they'd like to say, or challenge me, I'm up for a challenge. But don't say anything really aggressive because I might turn into a little quivering wreck. Okay? Yes, sir? Come on up here, man, and ask questions at this mic, please. Questions, comments? Pushback? Criticisms? Swear words? Anything? Feel free. Oh, I've got plenty of those. Yeah, good. So as a citizen of America, what would you say the best way to combat communism would be at a local level? Yeah, that's a great question. So I wrote an article for the Epoch Times and I called it, New Zealand is nine starter steps for saving America from socialism. 10,000 shares, General Flynn put it out there. So I hope you guys will check it out. But the very first thing I said is face reality. That's it. But on a local level, we have to fortify our states and fortify our counties. If we have a constitutional sheriff, we've got to back them up. We've got to have sheriffs who tell the federal government to take a hike. We've got to have governors like Ron DeSantis who does tell the federal government to take a hike. So we have to defend him. He's up for election of 2022 and they're going to put everything they can into destroying him. But this is what I'd say on a personal level, you've got to get yourself right. If you've got anything unethical going on, stop it. If you're in debt, get out of debt. Get yourself right. Get lots of food. Make sure you've got all the provisions you need. Start forming networks of local people in your communities to help each other in times of need. You know, you know where the mechanic is, know where the farmer is, know what skills you have and how you can network. And then you start working out. You start getting very active in your local community. You start getting active and who you elect to your town councils, your county commissions and especially your school boards. There's a lot of school boards in this country that the school board can actually set the curriculum in the school. Not the superintendent, not the Department of Education, the school board can. You take over your local school board, you throw out the whole damn curriculum and you put a Hillsdale College curriculum or a homeschooling curriculum a traditional curriculum that would have been common in America up to the 1950s. And you start teaching your kids real history and real civics and real math and real science and home economics and shop, wood shop, metal shop, all of that kind of stuff. And I'll tell you what, you get the local real estate agents to fund it because they're going to make so much money selling houses to all the people who want to move into your school district, get their kids into your school. But I think it starts at the first level you get yourself sorted. You go out from there, you get your little circles who are going to help each other out. You get provisions, you get all the things you need to survive a bit of a downturn, rough time. Then you have to start getting involved in your counties, your county commissions, your state rep races. You've got to make sure that everybody who stands is a patriot. And see, look, I go all over this country, I speak to audiences everywhere I've never seen the number of people standing up like you see today. It's like the Tea Party movement all over again, but a much younger demographic. You know, because you've got men and women sitting at home for a year reading their kids' school textbooks. You know, watching their cities burned, watching an election stolen in front of their eyes, watching their military being destroyed, watching their economy being wrecked and they're fired up because for the first time in their lives they realized we could lose this country. And so we've got to capitalize on that. We've got to all be involved. If you're not involved right now, you've got to be involved in every way you can. That's what I would say. Do you want to follow up on that or criticize that? No, I think you summarized it pretty well. I think, you know, what you guys are doing here, you're building networks here to support each other. Some of you are going through legal battles. Some of you are going through some grief. Well, that's great that you can talk to others and get advice off others. But you've got to build that where you live too. You know, whether you live in a pop car or you live in Tallahassee or wherever you live, you've got to be finding out where your friends are because we are facing some serious crap in this country, folks. Anybody think I'm exaggerating on that one? Yes, well, do you have another question or anybody else have a question? Thank you, Trevor. My question is pretty simple. How do we organize as men? A lot of the groups that I'm in, that I've led, that's participated, it seems like it's all inclusive. But there's no parties, there's no groups that pander to Republican, conservative, Christian, heterosexual males. How do we organize as men? You know, you mean, like, you talk about, say, the Florida Republican Assemblies that's women and men, you know. Well, look, you know, there's a time for women's clubs, there's a time for mix clubs, there's a time for men's clubs, you know. We shouldn't be embarrassed about that or ashamed that sometimes we just want to hang around with guys that guys have certain interests. So you've got to find people who are just willing to share the space as men and make it very clear that this will be a men's only group. There'll be certain things discussed here that you really want to keep in men's circles and be very overt about that right from the start and not in the least bit embarrassed about it or apologetic for it. You will find, if you start to talk in those terms, you will find a few people who start to come along and you start to make yourself more public. You know, maybe even have stands at gun shows and things like that, you know. We're a men's group, we want to talk about men's issues, we want to talk about defending our families, we want to talk about defending the country and what we can do to bring masculinity back into its rightful role in society. Just got to be bold about it because most people think this, don't they? Most people think it, but it takes somebody to say it before other people will go, yeah, right, I agree with you. You've got a group here that pretty much agrees with most of what you're saying, but I'll tell you what, I bet you there's another million men in the state who are very pleased to meet guys like you, but they probably don't know you exist. Alright, thanks Trevor. Thank you. I just want to thank you for your work for the crispness and the clarity, the way that you articulate the threat that we're up against. I don't know that I've heard anyone articulate it so clearly, so thank you so much for that. Well, I appreciate that. So my first question is, I've got a couple. There seems to be a hardness over people's minds and hearts to really acknowledge the seriousness of this, the significance of global communism, just how widespread all old and organized it is. So you articulate things, as I said very clearly, have you found any techniques to get men or even women to acknowledge okay, maybe there's some reality to this versus just like the willful blindness that everyone seems to be having? Yeah, well that's a very interesting question because see, when things get really bad, there's two responses. Most people shut their eyes, turn their heads, put their heads in the sand and hope it goes well. That's always been most people. It is a very few who will steal themselves and face up to the reality and start to organize. See, look, in the American Revolution about 3% fortiness of the population, 20% supported them, 40% supported the British and the rest didn't give a damn. So this is an old problem. You know, this has been around for a long, this is human nature but this is why we don't aim to change the mass. We aim to develop a few very strong leaders who will never back down regardless. You know, this is the hero archetype, you know. The person will just say it like this this is what I say. In the position we're in now we can only be saved by truth. We can only be saved by truth because it's so gone damn so far and we're facing fighting on so many fronts that only truth can save us now because truth gives faith and courage. But we've got so I don't go out there trying to convert mass as people like my movie and I hope you, that is one movie I will say that's given been seen 2 million times in Amazon Prime and it's I got a lot of people standing because of that. Because it laid it out very clearly and we're just doing a new movie now which is coming out November 2nd Enemies within the church about the woke Marxist movement in the churches and I think that will fire up a lot of people it's just it's 2 hours of mic drops. You know, it really is. But you know you got to make the decision yourself am I going to be a collaborator with what's coming or am I prepared to risk everything that I have for my God, my country and my family. That's the decision you make. See God gives us free will he cannot help us to we have made the decision when we decide to fight then it's okay for him to give us some assistance but he cannot push us that's why your revolutionaries I believe got help they got providential help but they had decided to fight the British regardless they had decided to do that it was only when the British really decided to fight Hitler that the Yankees came in you know that they got help from other quarters I think it's everybody's going to make a decision we're going to fight but God is right regardless of what it costs us and when you do that you will find people flocking to you from all over the place but it's that bold leadership that willingness to tell the truth regardless why did people flock to Donald Trump because he would say things nobody else dared to say and they weren't all right all the time we've seen for a hell of a long time don't you think they loved him all across the demographics both genders everybody just loved Trump because he'd say it like it is that's why I say only truth can save us now we've got to use that as an arm pool be very bold stand up proudly as men we're here to lead we're here to provide we're here to be men this is the complaint I get when I go to some of these you've got all these moms standing against critical race theory the biggest complaint they have is where's the men and where's the church that's the biggest complaint they're fighting we've got to be there pushing back as well and so and because more men have been intimidated than women have we're the ones dragging the chain right now and I think that's why we're just going to be as bold as we possibly can be at every step of the way you know and your wife will love you for it or if she doesn't you find a new one not Mary but I'm working on that okay well you'll fight look there's nothing women like more than a man who's willing to say it like it is willing to stand up because they know he will protect them take some a second sometimes but yeah look we might lose our lives standing up amen we could but we have to acknowledge that right from the start yes we might lose our business yes we might be kicked out of the social club yes we might be disowned by family members yes we might lose our lives yes we might but how many of your ancestors were willing to do that so that you may live free now so where do we get to have a break where do we get to enjoy the freedom we have and the great prosperity that was fought and died for why do we get to have our generation off you know I'm not asking to go and fight the British I'm asking to stand up at your city council meeting I'm asking to stand up at your school board meeting I'm going to ask you to go down and talk to the principal when they are teaching your kid crap I'm asking you to go and set up your own school if you need to stand up in every single way you can never back down and be willing to support everybody else who stands up as well take as much of a leadership role as you possibly can we're all scared of leadership you know it's not a comfortable thing but I bet every one of us can be more leaders than we are today every one of us you might not be the supreme leader but you can be more of a leader than you are now and I think that's what you should be looking at in your business life, your family life your social your civic life, your church life whatever it is you go to a church and you go to a wimpy pastor you sit them as so you sit them down and talk to them and they won't buck up you find a church that will because there's no point going to a meeting like this on a Saturday and going to a socialist church on a Sunday it ain't going to do you a lot of good so sort of tagging on to that I have a second question regarding the city council meeting the school boards there's been a lot of really moving YouTube videos, viral videos about men and women getting up and speaking there but it seems to me that institutions not just the school boards doctors all the institutions, politicians they just don't care you're talking to a brick wall I mean the answer is not like oh that's a really interesting thoughtful point the answer is just no and so encountering that I guess it's not even really pushback it's just I don't know what the word is apathy, indifference that's the word it's sort of like yelling at the ocean so what's the step after that because if you're sitting in front of a bunch of impassive faces like oh yeah that's really interesting and well what is valuable to them they're sitting on that school board they're probably getting $150,000 a year that's valuable to them and you've got 300 people in your audience asking why they're teaching this crap to your kids well you just say to them well we are going to organize a slate the school board elections are coming up next year we've got the three positions up we're going to take every single one of them you can bank on that unless you start doing what we are paying you to do we're going to do that and you've got to follow through on that thread and that is happening all over the country now people are organizing school board races, school board slates we're going to see a big change in the culture of that so as Ronald Reagan used to say look at what they want they like this little power they like this fat salary they've got they're not doing the job they're actually counterproductive they're actually hurting your kids well you've got to take them out you've got to get them off that damn school board you know there's no substitute for executive power we can moan all out we like but we have to take the positions that make the decisions and some of those positions have to be eliminated because they shouldn't even be making the decisions but the ones that are legitimate we have to decide look we're in the position now because most of us have been too damn lazy for about a hundred years now you know being willing to fight those you know if fathers and uncles they went out there and they fought the Japanese and they fought the Nazis and the Hong and that and with great bravery but they also let the internal enemies have a free pass and so they weren't perfect they had the greatest generation was great but it wasn't perfect and they left us with some thing to mop up well if we love our kids and we believe in what we believe in you know step by step of the way we may not win but we're all going to be held accountable one day and this is what I say to myself I'm going to give it everything I've got because at least I will earn the right to look at my children in the eye and say I did everything I could for you and one day you're going to stand before your God people and you're going to say you know you were given this great wonderful country the constitution based on the Bible that has done more to spread the gospel than any other to save more people from tyranny than any other created more wealth and riches than any other and you let it slip away without even fighting and you want to come to heaven you know how does that work you know we're in a position we got to fight now even if we don't think we can win like Winston Churchill promised the people we don't guarantee we're going to beat the Nazis but we know we got to fight them because that's the right thing to do sometimes you have to fight with no hope of victory because that's what we are here for people and we're going to be held accountable to our families and to God and to ourselves and I would rather fight like hell and lose than give up and collaborate and I'd rather fight like hell and win that's my goal that's my goal God bless you sir we make a decision you know we always tell our kids make the long term decision don't spend all your money now save up so you can buy a really nice bike later we tell our kids make sacrifice now so you can do better later well what is the ultimate time frame folks what is the longest time frame you can think of it's eternity right if we made every decision based on eternity would we do things a little different than we do now because that's the only time frame to really make decisions on in my opinion the only time frame yes sir first I want to say I appreciate you calling it for what it is Marxism and just personal aside personal point of privilege 30 years ago I was in a foreign country and I just I can smell them I was there I saw shit I never wanted to relive and last summer when I saw what was going on and I heard the rhetoric I recognized this is the same enemy and we're seeing it here in college campuses it's coming and it's here I'm one of the many who just packed up and told my boss find me a new job somewhere he called me on New Year's weekend and said there's a day shift in a little tiny town with 7,000 people I said picture me knocking over the garbage cans as I skid out of the driveway and text me the directions and off I went so I got my 100 pounds of beans and I'm ready so I appreciate your words and I agree with you don't think that western civilization is in peril they're hiding under a rock well look you cannot deny it any longer and I just to say you know in that little town just make sure that you're protecting that town you're getting in there making sure the school board is sound you're making the council and the sheriff are going to stand with you when the feds come knocking if you wouldn't mind if you could we talked a lot about what to do in our small towns and how to brace ourselves and basically how to fortify here in Fortress America can you give us perhaps a little bit of perspective from the outside of our shores from New Zealand and Australia out to Europe because this is not a problem just in America BLM marches were happening around the western world so we know we're dealing with a global enemy can you give us a maybe a broader perspective? Yeah well this is what I'd say you're dealing with global enemies you're dealing with the Chinese, Iranians you're dealing with Venezuelans and the Cubans Mexico's got a communist president now that's why the borders are wide open guys so you're dealing with a global enemy that wants world domination but you've also got friends everywhere you know everybody was hanging on that election you know I got friends in New Zealand they follow American politics more than most Americans do you have people in Australia France and Germany they follow American politics and American society way more than most Americans do because they know what happens here is going to either bring them ruin or help them free themselves so I think and I say to people you know like the I4 corridor is one of the most critical parts of America politically and so I say to the political activists here I say you're in the most important area in the most important state in the most important country in the most important time in world history in the last thousand years the fate of I say I don't want to lay out a responsibility trip upon you but the fate of western civilization depends on you here now because it does you know but these values we're talking about here are common values and most countries they are the dominant values and every free country or every semi free country looks to America as the guiding light that is the stable that is the pole that holds the tent up America is where everybody looks for hope you may not see that when you live in here but I'll tell you you go to Iceland you'll hear the left wing college students who say they hate America but you talk to their parents you talk to the taxi drivers in London or the butchers in Berlin or the the working people they know that freedom depends on America and American values and so they are rooting for you guys they are rooting for you all over the planet and if we can recover this country if we can save this country and turn it around we're going to spark liberty revolutions and returns to common sense all over the world you know we're seeing places like Poland and the Czech Republic standing for good values you know they're really valuing their families they're really standing for traditional values but they all know that they're going to be destroyed if America is destroyed they know they cannot last they're doing what they can in their countries and good for them but they all know it depends on this country and so every time there's an election you know people are just you know rooting for America that's why that's why what happened in Afghanistan was such a disaster because all your allies in India and Japan and Western Europe got the biggest kick in the guts they've ever had for years because they saw an American president betray his own people and betray his own allies people who had worked for America for 20 years they were set out to be executed by the Taliban so everybody's thinking well why they you know that changed the world balance of power that did not in a good way so yeah what happens here and what you guys do has an impact all over the world you know people are looking at this country for hope as a beacon of hope you can save this country and turn it around you can stand up that's going to inspire people all over the planet I look at things in a pretty dark manner I can see the bad stuff but I'll tell you what I can see if we can get through this period now I can see a fantastic future for this planet because it's out of the darkest times that's when you have the greatest victories you know Gideon's army the American revolutionaries Britain under Churchill the darkest times are where people decide which side they are on and most people go the wrong way but a few people go the right way and they are the people who change history so I am definitely optimistic of where we can go but that's going to come down to us making the decisions having faith and acting and courage even if it does cost us our lives because getting killed ain't the worst thing that can happen to you folks ain't the best but it sure ain't the worst and we all got to have that attitude people say to me is doing what you're doing dangerous Trevor and I say yeah but there's one thing more dangerous and that's not doing it anybody else have any questions I don't know if I've gone over my time but I'm enjoying this and I hope you're finding some value in this yes sir I would like to listen to your comments about your encouragement and your call to action for people who are church goers thank you well thank you well you know not everybody who's a hero has a spiritual foundation but most people who do heroic things have a spiritual foundation most people who give up alcohol or drugs they usually do it by finding a spiritual foundation and when you have a spiritual foundation that's when you start thinking about the eternal that's when you start making your decisions a different way you're being led out of this trouble by the people who do think that way, by the people of faith and unfortunately a lot of the people of faith have been out to lunch for the last 50 years or too many of them have but I even see that too I see a big growth in the home church movements and I see a lot of people rarely looking like they've never looked before as I said sometimes you have to almost lose something but you appreciate what you have and I think there are millions of people in that position right now and I think a lot of them are going to make the right decisions and that's our future friends that's the kind of people we should be looking to find and looking to nurture and looking to help and have them help us but anybody else have a comment or a question or criticism or abuse thank you is patriarchy we're here to do work as men as patriarchs there's nothing more natural than being a father this is Will Spencer from the renaissance of men here with the new 21 report and Trevor Loudon, Trevor, welcome hey good to talk to you well, thank you talk to you too, thanks for coming out to the 21 convention what was the, what was I heard some of your talk at 21 patriarch's event what was the subject matter of the talk well I was talking about Marxism and that what we're really seeing in America now is a revolutionary process and this is a men's conference and what we're seeing is a war on men we're seeing war on hierarchy we're seeing a war on the patriarchy the feminist movement is Marxist at root the LGBTQ movement is Marxist at root and the point I wanted to make is we can't see these phenomenon as separate manifestations of Marxism the attack on men, the attack on masculinity is part of a basically a revolutionary plan to overturn this country you just find that the men understood it resonated with the masses? I think largely they did, you know they might have a specific thing that they are looking at but I think when I brought it into connected view of the dots I think they could see this goes beyond mere accidents and that these things are linked, you know like Marxism is a revolutionary process you know we're given it's over turning all the natural hierarchies of life you know western culture was supported for many years by the church by the family and civil government all of those institutions are under massive attack so the war on men is part of a wider war on western civilization what are some of the strongest pieces of evidence that you show men to show them that there's more going on here beneath the surface than maybe the eye let's say? Yeah well I look in my books in my movies or just doing a movie right now called Enemies Within the Church and we deal there with the communist origins of the homosexual rights movement the LGBTQ movement you know Harry Hay the communist party member was the first gay rights activist groups like ACT UP and others all Marxist groups you know the feminist groups the abortion movement you can trace it all back to the communist party USA the socialist workers party etc so we can point out very clearly the Marxist origins of these movements and the Marxist leaders of these movements even today you know the transgender movement that's common now in the schools and colleges you can show the Marxist involved in this you can show the Marxist writings about it it's all a deconstruction of western society the hierarchies that we hold is normal it's all part of the wider revolutionary process where did this deconstruction come from I know some of the names and I mentioned some of them in your talk but maybe you can share some of them here well the communist movement you know the big mistake that most people see is they see the communist movement of the Marxist movement as an economic thing it's all about the workers rising up and taking the wealth of the bosses but that's only a very small part of this so you know Karl Marx was someone who really championed this but then you had Marcusa who brought it more into the social constructs you know that this is about the genders as well the war of the sexes that the feminists will rise up and take away the power of the patriarchy you can see it in the gay movement with Harry Hay who elevated homosexuality as being superior to heterosexuality you know this was a war on the family you know the Betty Fredans of the world the glorious thynans all of these women who elevated you know brought the feminist movement forward Emmeline Pankhurst all Marxist all communist party members or members of democratic socialist of America all of these movements you can trace back to Marxism and Marxism as an attempt to overturn the social structures of society to replace it with a socialist communist society and so when we look at men's issues we look at the corruption of the legal system that gives men an unequal deal when we look at the elevation of the LGBTQ movement the transgender movement we have to understand them as part of a revolutionary process and we cannot deal with them if we just think they're just crazy people doing crazy stuff Marxist directed still involved with China still involved with Russia still involved with hostile foreign powers using social movements in this country to destroy this country so that China Russia et cetera can basically run the planet according to their standards so all these movements are coordinated but it seems like when you try to explain this to people not you or you or when I or when many people try to explain this to people they say oh no it's just coincidence or incompetence what do you say to that if it was just incompetence wouldn't people make mistakes in our favor once in a while the classic example right now is the disaster in Afghanistan this was just incompetence how could anybody be so stupid as to withdraw the military while you still had civilians on the ground while you still had a big air base full of billions of dollars worth of material how could anybody be so stupid well it's stupid to think that is stupidity you know these are clever people running the United States not saying Biden's clever I'm saying the people behind him the Susan Rice's the Barack Obama's Xi Jinping this was a deliberate policy by the U.S. government at the behest of China to basically turn over to basically turn over all this material to China's friends and America's enemies now now the most of the West's allies look at Americans like how the can we ever trust America again we better start making other agreements so that that incident in Afghanistan changed the world balance of power it also helped China another way because China wants to invade the Pacific but it had this American base on its western flank and that would have meant they'd have to fight a two front war well now they don't have to fight a two front war they can use it's freed them up to attack the Pacific so what I say to people is this there is evil in the world there is malevolence there's always been statists and dictators and socialists and fascists and communists who want to change everything about everything destroy the West and because the West is based on Christian principles it's based on constitutionality it's based on rule of law and it's based on all these things that dictators hate so don't you think Putin would want to overturn that don't you think Vladimir Putin would want to overturn that don't you think and don't you think they have agents in this country who are working to their benefit we have ignored internal security in this country for 50 years now and that's we are seeing the results of that absolutely this is 2021 right now and I think to me I feel like it's undeniable that many of the things you're saying are true I see a lot of pushback for saying these things no that can't possibly be real but look I produce documentaries I produce a new one coming out enemies within the church which will rock American Christianity I believe but you know I have documentaries on Black Lives Matter how they're basically an operation of the Chinese Communist Party and I can prove this but you still have big corporations giving these people money you still have churches taking the need of these people you still have people saying well this is just an anti-racism movement no it is a communist Chinese directed movement to burn American cities create maximum racial division and bring this country to its knees you know when I say these things I can give you the documentary evidence to back them up I can show you the words from their own words I can show you the people who organized the writing in Minneapolis talking about the joy they felt when precinct 3 was burnt to the ground how the writing the looting and the arson was an integral part of their movement in their own words saying this on tape have you been engaging with the speakers sorry the attendees or have they been engaging with you outside of the sessions having conversations with them it's possible I've had to go away to deal with other engagements but yeah and I found it very stimulating I have to say everybody's got a slightly different angle on these problems but I think the perspective I have is I can unify them a little bit more each of these problems is not separate each of these problems is a result of a program but I've deepened my understanding of several aspects of it to the people at this conference so that's what makes it worthwhile coming here for me can you share one of the subjects you've gained a deep appreciation of well I just can't remember what I was saying Greg Coach Greg Adams talked a lot about this sort of common things you know happy life happy life you know and talked about how if we have if men have problems with women it's because men have allowed that to happen it's allowed the feminist myths it's because we ourselves have brought into these feminine myths and we don't challenge them we don't set the ground rules with the women in our lives and therefore the feminist Marxism intrudes into our relationships and that was an insight to me yeah if we have a problem it's because we've allowed that problem to be there you know Marxists do what Marxists do tyrants do what tyrants do radicals do what radicals do they affect us to the degree that we allow them to affect us to the degree that we don't say no to the degree that we don't set boundaries so yeah there's some good insights there for me isn't it have you spent any time in the 22 convention room or talked to any of the women attendees? No I haven't I had to leave the convention to go and attend to an other business so I wasn't here for most of that time do you find that women engage with you on these topics as much as men do last so maybe even more yeah well in this you know I'm not normally talking about the relationship between the sexes and I'm more talking to political groups about Marxist infiltration that kind of thing but I do I have been bringing those aspects more into a lot of the talks I do to churches because I think one of the big problems in the churches is a big misunderstanding what love is you know most churches are all about love love love love it's the most common word but it's all the feminine side of love it's all we will nurture you we'll help you we'll expect you it's not the masculine side of love who will call you to account who will hold you to judgment and when I talk about the value of masculine love in the churches I get a lot of women come up and say get right on you know I talk about you know the feminine love is the mother who will pick you up who will bandage your knee who will accept you or bake cookies with you and just be a mother you know we all crave that it's the love of the father who will boot your little backside if you disrespect your mother who will take you to the ball game take you fishing to the woodshed if necessary you know who teaches son to be a man and his daughter to be a lady and that has been driven out of the churches and largely driven out of western society so when I speak about those issues which I have been more in recent times yeah a lot of women engage with me on that they say hallelujah can you see the lack of masculinity and they see you talking about it yeah look it's men have got to be men we have roles and when a man has been a man and a woman's been a woman it's complimentary and the children you know you produce something that's greater than the sum of the parts the whole is greater than the sum of the parts but when a man is not being a man a woman can't really be a woman so they feel cheated men are not living to their full potential and the children have to suffer the consequences and so you know I'm a courage you know men have got to stand up and it's a lack of courage and courage becomes it's because of a lack of faith you have a lack of faith in your own masculinity you don't understand and you're told continuously that men are toxic that masculinity is toxic so you don't have faith you don't have certainty in your own role and therefore you have less courage you know a lot of women are out there right now fighting against critical race theory in the schools which is just a racialized form of Marxism and the big complaint they have that I see all the time is where are the men and where are the churches and it's all by ourselves you know we need the men to be fighting there in the trenches too they're the dads they're half of the family you know they got to be there too so yeah I do a lot of women do when I speak like this a lot of women go you're right on it's great to see a man boldly saying these kind of things talking about hierarchy talking about patriarchy and they appreciate it they really really do did that surprise you a little bit a little bit I buy some of the feminist myths too you know and just when I mentioned hierarchy you know hierarchy is something we should glorify hierarchy is something we should appreciate even Jordan Peterson who I really appreciate is really very good he doesn't get hierarchy he's just talking about how we got to flatten the hierarchy and hierarchy can be a bad thing yeah hierarchy can be a bad thing but we cannot live without hierarchy you know God, man, nature that's a hierarchy boss, worker master, apprentice father, mother, children they are hierarchies and when we try and screw around with hierarchies we are part of the revolution because the revolution the Marxist revolution the revolution is about overturning the natural hierarchies of life and replacing them with unnatural hierarchies we will never get rid of a hierarchy it's either a natural hierarchy a good hierarchy or it's a bad feminist Marxist type of hierarchy you know right now we've been told that nature is superior to man that we man is a cancer on the earth and we've got to reduce our population we've got to you know get rid of global warming this is all garbage man is placed above nature nature is here for our benefit and when we buy into so we don't get rid of hierarchy when we say that they put nature above us you know so respecting hierarchy but the right hierarchies is a very very important thing of what we need to do to right our society because the revolution has been out there trying to destroy our hierarchies for a hundred years trying to overturn everything that we hold dear overturn the family overturn civil government overturn the church to allow them to happen we are heading for a world of chaos why the hundred year figure specifically does that refer to a particular date or a particular event some men will trace the beginning of the real decline to the 1960s of the sexual revolution it was before that many men picked different dates why did you choose a hundred years ago the Bolshevik revolution because look we've always had you know right back to the days of Adam we've had people trying to bring down overturn the hierarchy overturn the natural hierarchies Karl Marx made a little bit of a science of it the feminist movement which was a Marxist movement came along in the late 1890s got really beefed up after the Bolshevik revolution after you had the Bolshevik revolution all of these things then had state backing you had the Soviet Union funding you know they would clamp down on homosexuality at home because they wanted to keep their system together they would clamp down on feminism at home because they wanted to keep their social structures intact but they funded all these movements in the west they wrote books that they funded authors who wrote books they directly funded communist parties and communist movements so it went into overdrive in the early 1920s because that's by then the Bolshevik revolution had consolidated itself and was starting to fund revolutionary activity all around the world America almost had a communist revolution in 1922 people don't have not understood that I'm one of them they were very worried they had to support something like 10,000 foreign revolutionaries after the Palmer raids of 1921 22 they sent them back to Eastern Europe because we were having bombings we were having mass strikes there was a real danger in the early 20s we were going to have a Bolshevik revolution in America and they pushed it back at that time but it got a foothold in Hollywood it got a foothold in the churches it got a foothold in the feminist movement it got a foothold in the LGBT gay movement through Harry Hay and people like that so what we're seeing in America right now is the fruits of the Bolshevik revolution we're still feeling effects and now it's largely run by China and Cuba but Russia's still in there Russia's still doing it Putin is all I'm a man you're a woman we support the Christianity and all this kind of thing it's all BS he supports it at home but over here Russia's still funding the bad stuff I think a lot of a lot of people have heard that Russia's sort of been a bad guy in the global stage meanwhile been ignoring China at the same time at least at home and it sounds like maybe Russia might be a significant player as China in some ways look at this Russia still provides a lot of the ideological framework of this kind of stuff Russia still has the nukes we say China is the leader of the world communist movement right now but Russia's got the nukes and who holds the nukes really holds the key to power you know Russia could still annihilate China tomorrow if it wanted to Russia could annihilate this country probably if it wanted to so don't get sucked in to the Russian propaganda that Russia is all pro-family Russia is all pro-Christian they do that to neutralize the conservatives in this country but they are still funding Black Lives Matter they are still working with Cuba they're still working with China they're still working with Iran their goal is to bring down the United States of America because if you can bring down the United States you rule the world no one stands against you at that point no one stands against you what about the role of Donald Trump both as an American president and perhaps also in the men's movement I think Ronald Trump was very positive he's a man he's a guy very strong masculine values very courteous to women but he's an alpha male who says it's alright to be an alpha male it's alright to make America great to not apologize for America's greatness to be proud of America's greatness and I thought he did the men's movement I thought he did America a lot of favors women half as fan bases raving crazy women who just love him like a chocolate and we hear about these women who really really turned off by Trump a few were like that but a lot of women just loved him and men young men Latino men, black men he was unashamed masculinity unashamed America first unashamed America masculine love there's no doubt Donald Trump loves America there's no doubt Donald Trump loves his family there's no doubt he's a man he knows his place and the thing and he just destroyed this myth of toxic masculinity people thought I can get a job now because of him my kids can get jobs my soldier my husband is in the military can be proud of being in the military again you know he's defending America he's defending something worthwhile so I would say the biggest masculine heroes for some time would be Jordan Peterson and Donald Trump I think those two guys have done more good for men and women than just about anybody else who could name in the last 50 years I wholeheartedly agree where can men go to find out more about you and what you do? Yeah go to trevalloudin.com you've got to you can't google that because google's forgot my IP address you can put it in the search bar but please we're releasing a new movie in November 2nd enemies within the church now it's going to deal a lot with the feminization of the churches the Marxist influence of the churches but whether you're Christian whether you're atheist, whether you're Jewish whether you're Hindu, whether you're Muslim whatever that movie will reaffirm masculinity in a big way and I urge everybody to see it it's two hours of mic drops two hours of just hardcore truth calling out era calling out the just the malign influences that we're seeing in this country many of them manifested through the churches and caused by the churches abandonment abandonment of masculinity and leadership but if you want to see more work go to enemieswithinthechurch enemieswithinthechurch.com that will show you more than anything else Thank you so much for your brave work sir Pleasure great to be here This is Will Spencer with the Renaissance of Men here with the new 21 Report and Trevor Loudon. Thanks so much