 Hello and welcome to the slightly delayed stream. My little two year old decided that he wanted to get up as well so I just had to go and make sure that he went back to bed a bit too early for my little boy to be up. At quarter past four it is now. So yeah sorry I'm late guys. Nice to see you Michael. And hi Rich. I'm pressing too many buttons here. Not quite organised this morning. Hey and nice to see you too. What time is it there? You must be, oh nearly 11 o'clock is it? 11 o'clock at night something like that in Germany. Great to see you all here. Thank you very much for coming along. So yeah I've not got a huge amount planned usually for these live streams to keep me on track. I do tend to plan a little bit ahead and think about what I'm going to talk about. But I really planned this one out sort of three weeks ago and I called it 50 videos in 50 days because I'm halfway to my target that I set myself at the beginning which was 100 videos in 100 days and so far I've done 63 so I'm quite pleased that I'm not going to be apologising for not having been halfway to my target yet. I don't really watch the stats but as much as I don't care about them but I do care about them because I want to know that things are progressing so just for those who are interested in 50 days I'm up to 134 subscribers and just past the 500 hours watched and 5,000 views so that's where we are with that. Like I say I don't really I'm not doing this to get to any particular level of subscribers or anything but I do obviously look at them because I want to know that what I'm doing is helpful to people at 11.15pm. Well I don't want to keep you too long. There we go. So yeah I didn't really have a great deal to talk about today but what I did think I'd do is if I just move this out of the way a little bit then what I can do is hey Sammy nice to see you here too. Oh and Eileen. Oh thank you Eileen. So what I thought I'd do is I would open it up to having a caller because it's something I've never actually done on a live stream so I thought I'd just stick up this little thing down here so if anybody goes to takeonetech.io slash join then we can see if we can bring in a guest onto the stream. Now yeah I suppose a few things that I could say about having got to my first 50 days is how different it is than I actually expected so I did one of my live streams was all about the sort of preparation that I took before getting ready to post my first video so I probably spent about a few weekends over a month or so maybe a few evenings here and there just getting things ready like the the graphics the overlays all those sorts of things just so that it was ready to to go and then yeah then when I posted my first video it was a live stream so I hadn't done anything else before that I just went live to nobody so that was a bit reassuring knowing that I could just mess it up and nobody was actually watching live. That video is still up by the way I didn't either taking it down but that was all about my different setup that I had and how I was doing it with the gear that I was using and so on and then then the very next day was my first office hours with with doc so I'd kind of done an hour and then I'm sorry a live stream and then had my office hours after that and I think the first live stream was it's not exactly lonely was the word but it was kind of just like speaking to nobody as such you know not knowing who the who the audience was or anything like that and the thing that's really changed since then is obviously being part of uh well doc's office hours of course and then getting into the e-cam live community as well it was uh oh thank you um thank you very much hey that's pretty good going that is isn't it excellent uh so um yeah being part of the e-cam live community and doc's community obviously specifically the office hours one I've just learned so much and you find that when we're doing these these sorts of things now I'm speaking to actual real people so it's a huge difference from uh before a thousand before August excellent well you're pretty close to that now so um yeah I think it's just really um really amazing to be a part of the community and it really obviously helps with with doing these sorts of things oh no I've got to just mention so I've just mentioned that I'm at five thousand views on my my channel I've just got to mention Eileen recently hit two million views I mean that is just uh phenomenal I watched if you haven't watched it already the video that Elysia Wei did with with Eileen was really really amazing so I'll go back and leave a link when I can afterwards I can't just find it now it'll probably totally throw me off but yeah that was a really great video that was Eileen I really really enjoyed watching that and yeah I've got a little way to go oh not far I've only got one million nine hundred and ninety five thousand to go but yeah that's really really great to hit that two million mark uh so what did I want to talk about extra I was going to talk about yeah the the the community really has been the big thing I suppose I should also mention I know you're all e-cam live users but for anybody who happens to stumble across this on the replay in the month of July e-cam live are doing a 30 discount offer on e-cam live which is great so anybody who is an e-cam live user you can get your affiliate code and then you can share it with other people and then they can they can go and get a 30 percent discount there was there somebody in the e-cam live community uh the other day won't name names but there was somebody complaining saying oh this is typical e-cam live of just offering it this thing to only uh new subscribers what about us loyal subscribers where's our discount I mean I don't want to swear on the channel but I mean what a person to say something like that is like companies do this all the time don't they they have a special offer on something and if you bought it before the special offer you don't go back to them and say hey hey give me a discount on the thing that I've already bought but there you go can't can't please everyone can you fortunately most people saw the sense and you know jumped in to have a few a few words to him in the community but apart from the occasional moaning person most of the people in the e-cam live community are so supportive and sharing and it's yeah it's really um really a great thing to be a part of so what else have I got planned for the the channel I spent the first the first 50 days if you look back through my videos and you may not want to do that but I'll save you the bother I've done probably I would say about 90% of my videos have been something related to e-cam live and it wasn't my intention when I started out to do that I was planning to do sort of software reviews things like that things that I'd use on the mac to get things done and there's a whole long list of videos that I want to make that are sitting in my OmniFocus task manager and yeah I will get through to all of those but I've just tended to veer towards making videos about either e-cam live or stream deck so I just did a sort of series beginner's guide to stream deck yesterday and then I've got some other like a whole series of videos specifically about stream deck and I guess it's just because the things that you love tend to take take priority I have just been really really loving e-cam live so that's why those seem to have just gone to the top of the the pile but I will get around to some other mac productivity apps I promise but if there's anything that that anybody watching would like to see videos on then then do let me know I'm always open to suggestions I mean some of the videos I've made have been because of people suggestions or people saying you know that something they like the video but then there's something else that they want to know about or something like that so I'm always open to suggestions of videos to make as well and I'll certainly add them to the list or if they're already on the list as is often the case I will bump them up to the top I might at some point do a little sort of poll in YouTube where you can sort of choose which video I should make next so I've just got to figure out how to do that I've never actually done that come to think about it so I wouldn't even know where to begin that's something for me to research and then make a video about maybe now I will just quickly answer how did I first learn about e-cam live Eileen well I'm a big believer in the universe being at work to help you out all of the time and delivering you the information and things that you need just at the right time and I always say everything happens for a reason now it's very easy to look back on things and sort of plot together the route that happened you know you could never be where you are today without things happening in a certain order and you can either look at that in a positive way or a negative way and everything that bad that's bad happens you look back and say oh well if I hadn't done that then this well I've always got a positive outlook and so I always look for the good in everything and there's always something that happened at a very timely moment for me to for me to be doing what I'm doing and where I am at any given moment and as I say that's just my view I often say that that's the universe at work when things go right when things go wrong I don't say that's the universe at work I say oh well that's a great learning experience isn't it well anyway so that's a little bit of a digression but I started off down the ah big rich is joining one second let me just see if I can do this I will finish this story I promise so I started off down the down the OBS route I guess it's in the green room right one second I started off down the OBS route and then I'll just reach in I do this I'm trying to do two things at work I can't multitask one second there we go let me try see if that's going to work see this is why I wanted to test this out and we're better to test it out on a live stream add let I tell you why is this because I've got to be in it always helps if you're going to add a guest in to be in a particular view where you can actually accept guests let me try this is this going to work one second ah that's why I've got to assign him to guess one hey rich there he is there he is he made it I got there in the end thank you for joining me and helping me out with this little trial absolutely absolutely so I'll just I didn't want you to sit there with your with your link up there and not have to yeah thank you I appreciate that I'll just quickly finish Eileen's little question which was how did I first hear about iecam live and to cut a long story short I had been using OBS so I was making some course material for another course which I'm making a very concerted effort not to cross-promote post onto this channel but anyway I was going down the OBS route and it was a bit of a nightmare really especially on my my aged mac so yeah and then one day I was watching mac break weekly as I do almost every week and then there was doc for the first time on it and raving about ecam live and so that's how I found out about ecam live awesome so how's things going with you rich awesome and you just 50 days ago you started doing this or you started before yeah no 50 days so I started my youtube channel slightly earlier than that but I didn't post anything so I spent about a month getting all my overlays together all of you know figuring out ecam live did you start did you start the 50 days with OBS or start with ecam oh no with ecam to be honest there wasn't going to be a youtube channel without ecam live so OBS I was for something else and I just got that much sort of joy out of ecam live and the whole point of the the channel is for me to practice making like one take ad hoc videos so I don't really do it any preparation I just sort of sit down and do a video about something so why were you doing why were you doing streaming in the first place if it wasn't for a youtube channel just for zoom calls and stuff like that yeah and it also it wasn't it was more for sort of recorded content so like recording course material for a course so yeah that's that was the point and I it was a bit of a nightmare because previously I was just recording content and then editing it but I was doing the recording and the editing and I would just I would screw over my future self by giving myself a terrible editing job to do and I just retake those basic of things yeah editing is the worst yeah and doc's got some good tips about recording if you're just recording using ecam or using anything but don't don't stop because then you end up with a whole bunch of chunks just keep the recording going yeah and if you and if you if you I mean don't stop meaning don't stop recording always keep the record button through a session oh I see yeah yeah and then when you go when you go to edit you only have one file to work with yeah well the funny thing is if I'm if I'm doing something where I know it's live to tape or disc or whatever I don't sort of stop and try and self edit whereas if I know that I'm recording it and I can edit it afterwards like let's say for example module one of a course I'll go hello and welcome to module one hello and welcome to hello hello I'll like retake the most stupid inane things over and over you gotta get over that yeah but what he does is is after he does something he likes he'll do this to the camera yeah and then and then he knows he can scrub through and find that one and he knows that whatever that bit before that hand is the one he was to keep yeah and everything up before that he can shake hand without having to sorry he can throw away yeah not having to worry about what it was yeah well I try and just avoid editing at all costs these days right and then also the long pauses if you just if you'd stop talking for a minute and yeah so the audio line goes flat and then you can also visually see yeah talking that there's a cut in the thing so yeah I have a lot of those pauses because I try and sort of self edit my arms and ears so I tend to speak like that sometimes well no I mean once you say it once you say a point and you get to a natural stopping place just I've got yet got yet yeah for a minute and then and then you know that when you're looking at the audio line well I don't even have to play it you know that that's where it stops responding to the visual thing what are you using to edit final cut I don't do any editing so I literally just oh you know that that what do you do Tom you got to take it apart and cut it up and stuff right no no all my videos that's this is I call it take one tech because I just literally sit down do the video and that's it I don't actually post edit anything two weeks ago or a week ago you did something where you said I'm going to record this live stream for five hours or whatever it was and cut it up into pieces got you yet so for that one I just use iMovie I just literally cut oh no kidding cut out the chunks yeah yeah yeah I get it so that's the take one that's the take one thing I understand yeah but the the other thing about that one is I thought that I was being quite smart doing that I thought I'll record a four hour thing and then I'll split it up into smaller chunks I'm never going to do that again because that gave me an editing job and then the other thing was when you sort of do stuff like that that was literally like four and a half hours the full one that's on youtube is four and a half hours and I literally just sat down for four and a half hours and recorded it but you sort of um you do lots of like callbacks and things like that not like majorly but you always referring to oh and then before I showed you this well then when you cut it up into smaller videos it doesn't make sense there was also a few a few of those videos that I thought were going to be quite good for their videos in their own right I realized I'd done like part of it in demo mode and so like showing you know rather than the screen sharing and stuff like that so I ended up re-recording some of them so where I thought I was probably going to record a four and a half hour video and get maybe 10 smaller videos out of it I ended up probably using about maybe four that were from that and then re-recording the other ones because I wasn't happy with them so yeah in general they just sit down and one take I might I might be interested to to look at some like editing stuff for other projects but for this I just want to be able to yeah come and sit down and get it done and sometimes I upload them straight from ecamm into youtube and then other times I go back and just add them in afterwards the thing that I've got to really make a conscious effort to do is actually go back and put in things like chapter markers but that involves me watching them back and because I haven't edited it I don't have the time stamps so I've literally got to go and watch myself back on double speed to find out where to put those uh those chapter markers that's not that bad and it pays off it because that's searchable somebody can find that that whatever you search for they can find that piece of text and then go straight to it I might I might make that my job for this weekend just actually go back in there and do that what does Thailand do on this weekend is there any kind of special day not particularly no and uh yeah it's just a just another day in Thailand but there has been unfortunately a bit of it it's our it's our independence day on Sunday here and then I think it's also Canada day this week Canada day this weekend because Canada always has to do something when we do something so it is a special day for me on on independence day because independence day is the day that I actually got married which is a bit ironic so it's my 13th wedding anniversary tomorrow oh no kidding good for you yeah yeah wait tomorrow you mean Sunday you mean the fourth I mean the fourth sorry yes it's it's uh it's the third here four a.m. got it yeah yeah understood we'll work it out it's no problem yeah hey speaking of editing by the way go ahead how uh how did you get on with your I just saw before I came on here you'd tried that four up thing in income life where you can yeah I haven't I haven't figured it out I haven't figured out how to get NDI in that last square that's all right probably had but I like the four up I like that at that the way to do it because then you can take that whole like if you sit down and do one take video and you can cut that cut that up into different camera angles which is what the goal is yeah yeah so just for anyone who hasn't seen it who was it on the the group you copy me into it but I can't remember exactly who I think his name is Ken he's a Japanese Japanese name Obasaki I'm not sure right but he's uh Ken is his name I don't know yeah I don't have the last name so the thing was he'd created a view in ecum live or seen with uh that was in 4k with four uh 1920 by 1080 uh views in it and it meant you could record four different camera angles into one uh scene and then you could once you'd recorded it you could bring that into final cut or whatever and just then switch between the different you know cropped images to give you a full view I thought I was absolute genius yeah multi-cam it's really cool so if I set up a camera over there an overhead camera over there and then a demo uh screen because I was going to do uh website reviews on it that kind of stuff so that's kind of what the idea was yeah yeah so with your um your live streams do you do uh other videos that you release separately to that as well or do you do uh is it for your um your I'm supposed to do that we do it we do our live stream every Thursday that's what keeps me on track but right now I have all these ideas I have all these ideas for all these other videos that I want to do I want to talk about this we want to talk about that and I just never I just never do it man I gotta sit down and do it I don't know why and now how about the yeah the the live stream that you do how long have you been doing that one for now uh since August August October October last year uh every week every Thursday and has that always been an e-cam thing as well or no we started it was just a regular podcast we started October of 2019 right and then is is is my connection bad or what it looks like I'm jerking I can't tell uh it looks all right to me actually it's pretty smooth to me I don't know maybe it's just maybe it's just my maybe it's just my preview that's looking at anyway we started doing a podcast regular audio podcast and then the lockdown happened and we started trying to do the podcast over zoom and that wasn't very good but we kept it going and then we uh continued with the podcast until the summer 2020 and then I discovered e-camp I said oh we can do the podcast with this yeah and that's when I did it and you were talking about the price increase they had some kind of thing going on when I finally bought it in October it was like oh it's going to go up you know tomorrow's it's all going to go up in price so I bought it and then a week later they said oh here's a special and it's cheaper than what you just bought it for they did the same play the same kind of games as they did that you're doing now right right but I just knocked it up they're the only game in town so you can't really complain yeah and it's uh you know it's just bringing more people into the community as far as I'm concerned it's you know what what you're gonna do it's uh and it's fine it's there it's a you know it's their product they can do what they want to if they want to sell it for five dollars to the everybody from here on out that's the way it goes yeah can't complain about it oh michael's saying that uh you look great so uh the obviously the stream's coming out okay it looks looks fine from my side too so yeah I don't know why it's delayed usually when I see I'm looking at the chrome browser here yep and it's and it's for some reason it just looks like it's I went on doc's program last week and it was just really sort of choppy and didn't look so good in the in the browser but it looked all right on the stream afterwards I think yeah this is like it's like 10 or 15 seconds behind oh weird there's no problem it's just it's just I mean it's okay if you're if you're okay with it I'm okay with it so uh cool and how did you find out about you coming oh because I started doing that uh when I started getting into video last summer uh discovered loria's live streaming pros ah yeah she did a she did a thing in august called live every day in august I guess lead yeah yeah so where you go on our facebook group and you go live and you're just using your phone and then I noticed a lot of guys were slicker than using their phone and that's what they were using with e-camp so right right so she's been doing this for a long time I remember her when she was when she started she was Callie Lewis do you remember doing that doing I remember that she used she used to live in Dallas her and her husband at the time lived in a in a warehouse you know this right like you read you rent a warehouse for your stuff they lived they managed one of those kind of things with that had 100 units and she was doing gear reviews out of her apartment that she had there yeah and she's from this town she's she she used to have events like at the mall at the apple store here all right right way back when I mean I mean you know yeah that was a while ago that she was doing those quite a while ago yeah and I've met her a couple of times at a couple of like there was a word camp wordpress kind of convention and something else something like local user group thing so yeah she's she's been around a long time uh-huh and how did you find her stuff I've never I've never really watched her um like the stuff that she's doing at the moment so much I get the impression it's sort of it's got a different vibe to it than docs and I think aimed at a different sort of uh user perhaps than yeah hers is hers is more about about getting out of your head and not being scared to do it in the first place which is right which is awesome because a lot of people I mean you can tech tech tech yourself to death yeah yeah and she wants she wants you to throw the tech to the side and just do it yep my screen went black yeah it just went black from for me as well oh you know what I wonder if my camera went out I've got this cam link that's been give me a second to go around here no problem you know it can I turn let me go around yeah I get uh yeah when she's uh I think that's what the sort of vibe that I picked up it was more about you know just sort of encouraging people to get out there and make a you know actually start to do something uh whereas yeah that's when I found uh saw doc on mat break weekly I can't believe I didn't really know much about doc before then to be honest um but uh yeah glad that I happened upon that particular episode of mat break mat break and found out about doc's group he's I just I'm always amazed by his uh Eileen says what did I do is rich it wasn't me I promise uh it'll come back it'll it's on it's back yeah it's it's right now yeah um I don't know why he knows you can mention the most casual thing and he knows all about it I know I know everything about it it's unbelievable I mean something so random like I can't even think of anything jumping out of a helicopter oh I did that or whatever I mean yeah awesome I mean it's like the tech stuff as well just even I mean that I suppose that's the whole this whole thing but yeah like you say it's it's the random stuff as well but somebody can mention anything about tech and he's like okay here's the thing and then you'll just go into like or mention anything about karaoke or anything about Japan or anything about just anything it was just it's unbelievable yeah he needs to write a book quick because he's several books yeah yeah yeah yeah it's uh yeah so it's amazing and then you know he's got such a sort of casual style about him as well at the same time and then you can just drop some little question in and boom me straight into it it's yeah really cool he's fantastic and I've never I've watched Leo because Leo Cali well Luria was on a show on a tv station called Tech TV I think was the channel yeah yeah and that's where I found that's where I found Leo so I've known about Leo forever too yeah and I never seen doc on Leo until I already knew about doc and then I said oh doc's gonna go on that show that's kind of weird yeah and he fit right in and he's been there a bunch of time yeah you know I never knew that uh huh yeah I mean Leo was another another one who knows his stuff but it's that's that's that's a really good show I like all of Leo shows really but yeah I've been a bit of a mac break fan for since he was in a twit cottage yeah yeah he's a he's a he's a good guy I'm trying to think of what else um oh macworlds I I used to go to those there was one that used to have been Boston and San Francisco right and and I'm sure I've probably been to one like in the 90s where doc was there I probably I'm sure right not that I ran into him I didn't run with that with all the riders and stuff I was just a user but yeah yeah I never got to go to a mac world they were always a little bit too far away from me and to be honest I only started using a mac when was it it was it was vista time windows vista caused me to switch when was that 2010 uh it was 2006 so in fact it was when I just moved I moved to Thailand in 2006 and uh an iMac I got an iMac within the first month of being here something like that so and why'd you move to Thailand I came here originally and on a diving holiday and then I was working sort of pretty much freelance from uh from home and so I realized I could probably do that just as easily here and crazy food and the weather is better so I moved over here and that was yeah 2006 and you were single at the time yeah yeah but it's it's fun it's absolutely it's a wonderful place and the wonderful people I said this one the other day I can't remember exactly who it was I was talking to but it may have been even doc but one thing that I noticed when I'd been I was in Thailand for 10 years before I went back to the UK uh for the like at all and then the first time I went back to the UK I landed at Heathrow in London and then had to drive up the freeway up the motorway to go to visit my parents and uh I was really struck by looking into all of the other cars like as you do just driving along just looking around everybody looked miserable whereas in Thailand they call it the land of smiles because everybody is smiling here and it's like amazing what a difference it makes when you look around and you just see smiling faces it sort of makes you want to smile it's funny yeah I got a kick out of your thing five five five people say five five five oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's funny that but they're really big into the social media here I mean they are everywhere but there was a a couple of years ago I was doing some stuff about social media marketing and there was um something about Thailand having the biggest usage of social media in terms of uh like hours on Facebook per number of users per capita and all that sort of thing so they really get really quiet you know I think people have got uh I don't know what view people have of Thailand but I think a lot of people are you know thinking that perhaps things aren't quite as move forward here as they they have done in recent years so it's you know when I'm when I've told people about my my internet's like 100 meg up and down and I'm right out in the sticks I'm not in not in Bangkok I'm sort of on the border between Thailand and now on the Mekong River so 800 kilometers north so it's a pretty sort of rural place that I am it's not like a big city or anything right and yet you know it got really fast internet and uh yeah things have pretty progressed along here in the last uh last few decades I suppose but what's your speed what do you have there uh 100 up and down uh I mean sometimes sometimes it's a bit faster than that but that's actually the advertised speed and uh I rather than 100 up is good 100 up is good I only get 35 up here right right and mobile's pretty quite quick as well so uh sometimes like if if I'm working I'll just tether to my mobile as well and that's pretty pretty similar sort of speeds as well so cool yeah there's not much there's not much lacking over here so when I compare Thailand to the UK I can't really think about what I'm not getting here that I could be getting in the UK I don't ever look back and think oh I wish I had this and that it's oh no kidding huh yeah yeah you don't you don't you don't miss the UK at all uh not really occasionally you know I do miss the uh uh endless drizzle and bad weather no no there's nothing the only thing is obviously like family but that you know they're happy to come and visit here and uh you know so my parents well before COVID my parents have come sort of a couple of times a year and spend you know a month here at the time so uh yeah it's nothing nothing that much that I'd like to go back for I mean it I don't want to be a downer on the UK there is lots of nice things about it I do love the English countryside and stuff like that but uh I just love the weather here and the scenery here as well so yeah is it like the tropics is it like women in Hawaii um yeah so where I am for I'm a bit further north than Bangkok it is similar to that but then we also have sort of December we have a cold season and it gets down to now I'm gonna I'd not I'm gonna mess up the conversion here but it's like 15 degrees centigrade so what is that in Fahrenheit I'm most quite sure don't know it's uh you would know but I don't know it's pretty yeah it's pretty cool in fact let me just quickly find out uh it's like divided by 1.8 plus 32 or something I can never remember I don't remember I don't either so that's 59 so sometimes it gets down to 59 oh well that's not so bad yeah so it would do that in the nighttime which means there's no aircon and there's nice sort of cool crisp air and then uh yeah the next day it's back up to 30 which is basically double that I don't know if the doubling works so then in the daytime it might be back up to uh whatever that is 86 yeah yeah yeah something like that but generally generally it's about like it's about that 80 all the time or sometimes it goes up to 40 yeah that's nice it is tropical that's good yeah and stuff grows I couldn't get over when I first moved here how how everything grows so quickly and in the UK there's like a you know there's the summer season the the one day of summer oh and and talent has crazy fruit right they uh oh man yeah all that weird stuff I mean yeah yeah like remberton the little ones that look like uh I'm not quite sure what they look like but yeah there's lots of well there's one there's a big spiky one that's I forget the name of it that durian it kind of opens thanks durian I love durian everybody everybody's got their own views on durian and they're actually banned in like public places like hotels and stuff so you'll see a little sign with a durian and a line through it because it's got this it's not I don't I don't think it's a bad smell because if you like something you associate the smell with it being a positive experience I suppose but people say that it smells like rotting flesh I've never quite got that before and I don't know what that says about me but uh but it's got a real smells yeah and it sort of lingers as well so if you open it in a room then it sort of somehow seems to linger and stay around so yeah hotels don't want to be smelling like uh rotting flesh I suppose which is fair enough what's funny who's that hello you got somebody else calling in no no no it's just somebody put a chat up but I'm not sure I know exactly who that is but they're saying I'm new subscriber and getting a lot out of e-cam and streamed out videos oh thank you very much welcome uh yeah they so the yeah the other the other fruits that they got here they've got rambutan which are like they're a bit like light cheese but they've got sort of uh so they're red but then they've got little green hairy spikes on them they look uh they look a little bit like uh you know the graphic of a coronavirus they look a little bit like that oh wow now that I'm thinking about I've got I've got to pull up a picture of this now it's funny so yeah the fruit and vegetables going to the market it's like such a uh such a colorful experience that's funny I can get this up now what's the best way to do this I just stick this there you go that's a rambutan so there can you see that um in a minute I'm I can't see it you've got the delay I can't see it live because it's not yeah it's got a little bit of delay I don't know why but it does well there you go I'll leave that little rambutan on the screen oh there it is I see it okay it takes that long that's weird yeah looks like a sea urchin yeah it does doesn't it yeah and they're about um uh well they I don't know about an inch across something like that and then they're kind of similar to a lychee I think it's the same sort of family uh but they're like a hairy lychee so yeah lots of uh lots of interesting fruits have you ever have you ever been to Thailand or traveled no no the only remote thing I've done like I've been to the UK I've been uh I guess that's it oh in Bermuda and Mexico and the Caribbean Canada Canada but I've never been no I've been to Thailand I would love to go how how did you find the UK where did you go in the UK we went over a weekend it was stupid we we left on a Thursday and came back on a Sunday and we'd never traveled anywhere that far and it took we spent most of the time flying so yeah yeah we should we should have done it we should have planned it out better and then we just hung around London and went to the restaurants and museums and goofy stuff like that this was in the late I guess that was the late 90s too there used to be a restaurant at Tralfelger Square called the Texas Embassy right by the National Museum I guess and that's run by run by a guy that has restaurants here in Dallas so we thought oh that's funny and they had all the same stuff and we and then after the trip we said this is stupid we flew all the way across the ocean to eat the same stuff we eat at home we shouldn't have never done it so that's pretty cool anyway it was it was fun did you get the one sunny day or did you miss that and get the bad weather oh it was wet the whole time I do remember that yeah and it was unusual that all the bars I mean we we like to go out and drink and stay out late and all the bars closed at 11 and we didn't we were surprised about that and at 11.15 you couldn't get a cab because everybody was getting cabs and so we we had we had we learned a lot I guess it worked out cool so what are you working on at the moment other than your your podcast oh just regular projects we sell promotional products printed promotional stuff and actually we've just been busy as heck this whole month just every other world up for a year and a half everybody shut down and nobody wanted to buy anything and now everybody's open and they want to buy stuff they buy stuff to pass out or to sell yeah and so we've been really scrambling and the supply chains kind of screwed us up because nobody has any stock on a lot of stuff so and everything's jammed up coming out of China and everybody's overworked as far as Liber goes so it's yeah no it's a trying time it's fun but it's trying so I'm looking forward to this weekend this is a holiday weekend I'm looking forward to taking a little couple hours off and not so with work for a while yeah yeah because it's it is good I mean business is great so I'm excited about it but it's just hard to you can't fill the order if you don't have the stuff yeah and what sort of things that are there then that you your promotional products what are the the sort of big ones that you thought the main ones that you sell uh product-wise we do a lot of beverage stuff like cups and can coolers and and what stuff like that we're doing we do some events so we do pop-up canopies and apparel for the people that are working the event and what else like stuff for them to give away bags and water bottles and stuff like that so it just really it's different things like we're doing one thing there's a big vodka company who I can't not vodka tequila but well it's part of Stoli but they they're doing like a big launch this summer so we we send 5000 cups every month to this one bar in Long Island so it I don't know just there's different stuff like that so yeah nice that's nice yeah it's fun and with the yeah with the the podcast podcast you do uh how do you how does that go out is that so you do that as a video on to youtube but then also it goes out as audio as well does it we're exactly how we do it on eke we do it on youtube and then I have a three minute or whatever uh intro countdown yeah uh I take that that file and I run it through alphonic that's another doc tip and uh get the get the audio file fixed up and then I take that into premiere and I cut off the uh what do I do I cut off the countdown and don't do I don't do a lot of audio editing as far as ums and us I'll leave all that in right right just I just I'll just take that countdown part out because it's three minutes of music that's yeah can't don't need to hear it so um if we've gotten bad about because we show websites and stuff on our video podcast so we've gotten bad about ignoring the fact that there's an audio version of this so we try to consciously describe what we're doing so people can see it which is kind of yeah sometimes it's awkward but sometimes we forget and we don't and we say oh look how funny that is and we don't think about after the fact that somebody's gonna be listening to this yeah so it's something you gotta kind of think of but anyway I take that now upload it to soundcloud and it goes out to everywhere goes out to whatever 50 different play where this podcasts go they go all over the place yeah yeah but that alphonic alphonic is a great trick I mean it makes it sound so much better after you run it through alphonic it's it's really cool and does that do something similar to descript at all have you tried descript or no alphonic just processes the audio and makes it better makes the audio of the recorded file better and you know the audio is not bad going into youtube but it's just but this one just sounds a whole lot better going on the Spotify and all that stuff um descript I do use descript I take that same video file and um that I use for the podcast then I cut that up into chunks like six or eight different 30 second pieces yeah and make youtube shorts or instagram posts or facebook posts right and I use these descript with captions on them and that's what I use to script for uh huh I've got to start doing some of that I think I've got the script but I have used it on there because I started doing a uh a podcast as well which was very imaginatively called my youtube journey there's about there's about 10 other people it was because I think I just got quite uh overexcited by starting and that thought I'll just make a video a podcast which is all about like the process of setting up the channel and everything rather than it being like a direct accompaniment to it so what shall I call it I know bosh that was it did it and then uh I typically put a great deal of thought into it and put it in there and then when I did a search for it it's like oh yeah there's a load of other unimaginative people just like me out there but that's okay I mean you can stand out I mean people will find it they'll they'll see this one and you can put links to this one on your on there so I mean there's a way to there's a way to go around that you don't have to worry about just the name yeah I've just also got to get more into the habit of doing it so with the videos I've got into a real routine of making them but the the podcast I haven't done one for two weeks now but I'd intended to do it every week uh but I wasn't I wasn't doing it in ecamp but then uh if somebody else was talking about just using the ecamp live with the separated audio uh preference on so that it will export the audio as a separate track so I might do it that way I thought about doing it as a video I'm putting it on this channel but then I thought it's it's more about the process of the channel rather than uh rather than the stuff that I cover on the channel if you see what I mean so I'm not sure what I'm going to do you're still doing it I mean you could you could put it up as short so you could put it up as you know yeah your facebook post or on your website or whatever so I mean it's good to have video part of it and then you can use the audio part you can make audio grams you know what those are uh no no go on yeah I'm not sure about that well if you if you run it through the script like if you have a video and you put it through the script and you go to export one of the options is called an audio gram which is basically a a square that has text on it that yeah I did see doc talk about that it's like it's like a sound wave file kind of thing that looks I don't want to say wave file because it's not what that is but it's a it's a wavelength a wave form got yeah yeah yeah it makes a visual thing out of an audio thing I remember showing that in office I think now you mentioned it but you can also do video I mean that's what I do with mine you know the script people rave about it but I'm it's clumsy man it's clumsy to me I can't I can't go I can't go it's very hard to work with I found it has a little bit of difficulty with my accent I don't know why but maybe I haven't used it long enough for it to to learn it properly but yeah there's a few words that it gets wrong because what I was going to do is take the text out so I've been using it for trying to get rid of the oms and urs and yeah I I use it for that with the podcast maybe I'll just forget about that and just leave them in in future I think that's probably I think that yeah I take that descript text because I have to edit it all the time it doesn't it doesn't get it right and it's you know I mean it changes I mean it's right for the most part you've got to pay attention to it but anyway I take that file that text part of it and I run it through a thing called Jarvis which is a AI copy editor thing yeah yeah and it it makes a nice YouTube description for those or a Facebook post or whatever description for those files so it's right right out of the copy this error just kind of rewards everything it makes it to where it's not verbatim what you just said so got you uh-huh is that similar to conversion AI or is that it's exactly the same thing they changed the name from conversion Jarvis this week ah right right yeah yeah Jarvis is what they call the back-end engine or whatever I don't know how that works but yes the conversion AI name they call the editor itself Jarvis and so they have just changed the name of the company to Jarvis or the website or whatever so that's got you might notice that you go to look right right do you use that too I don't use that one yet no um yeah there's lots of things that I've got planned that I want to try and incorporate into the channel do with it so going back and putting in my chapter markers will be a start one a start but if you if you yeah that's a good one too if you do any writing at all though I mean if you need to do any writing in bulk man yeah that conversion thing is awesome uh-huh yeah I've perhaps perhaps give that a look I'll just say hello and welcome to blind grilling new subscriber thank you and welcome to the channel uh yes it's it's one of those things that I seem to find the time to do the recording but then some of the back-end stuff uh seems to slip by the wayside a little bit you you do everything live though right you don't record it and then upload it or do you I usually record them so I don't do all all my videos aren't just live to YouTube but they are they're just sort of live to tape if you like and then I'll upload them because I say that I don't do any editing occasionally like my little boy runs into the room or something like that then I'll just literally cut in I often just do that with with like quick time so with quick time you can add a clip to the end so I'll just literally stop and then start it again and then with that clip just append it to the end of it and and do things that way but it makes generally generally try and avoid editing it all costs yeah kids kids will do that to you they'll make your life distracting have you have you got kids no I don't know I don't have any kids right right I've got three I've got a nine-year-old a five-year-old and a two-year-old so two girls perfectly Emily and then my little boy Dale is yeah two two and a half so fantastic yeah my yeah my little my my daughter was my first subscriber and then she went ordering people to a subscribe but she phoned she phoned her granny and granddad my parents and said did you know you're some youtuber that's some funny stuff yeah she thinks it's hilarious she's uh especially when she sees like my thumbnails and stuff like that she says oh daddy you're so silly oh really yeah yeah I mean they are they are pretty I'm not really happy with my thumbnails I don't know quite what I was thinking in doing them well so the way I did that was by the way is when I first started getting everything ready I literally just sat in front of the camera and took a load of pictures some of them stupid some of them just neutral or whatever and so I've got like in I make all my thumbnails in photoshop which is probably not the best place to do it but I've just got a load of pictures that are all just queued up with the you know alpha channel removed and I can just drop whichever one in but they were all taken at the start so I've got like say 50 stupid stupid poses I've probably got a couple of hundred different pictures I would go through sessions where I'd wear one color of a shirt and take a bunch of pictures and then go change shirts and wear and take a bunch more pictures so yeah yeah I mean it's fun I always say that the guy who has the best thumbnails in the business is tom buck I think he's they've got such an artistic flair to them and I know that he spends quite a lot of time sort of crafting each one so you know all the hand lettering that he does on his iPad and stuff like that I think they just look amazing that dude's a dude is unbelievable yeah everything every time I turn something on he's on it and yeah I can't believe how good he is he's fantastic yeah it's yeah I watched a load of load of his stuff I mentioned in one of my other videos about like the five channels that I watched basically in the run-up to me starting this was tom buck was one then obviously doc DSLR video shooter for the all the video stuff with Caleb Pike podcastage I don't know if you've watched that one he does all just audio work reviews and stuff like that and then the other one was Alex Lindsay who is a if you watch mat break then you obviously know Alex Lindsay's the guy from industrial light and magic who yeah big audio video guy but he's been doing his office hours for the past year on on YouTube as well and that is every day for like two hours he's got a load of audio video guys that are they they're more into using like eight and minis and stuff like that and they're all coming from a sort of slightly more you know full-time professional AV guys basically and it's Alex Lindsay with it Ay at the end but yeah that's like you can go back and watch like two years sorry a year worth of every day for two hours just these guys talking about basically audio video stuff so I watched a load of those because although they're not I like him but I like him but I didn't realize that he had a thing like that that's cool yeah it's absolutely it's mad and on what they do the format of the show is anybody can go and join the the zoom call so you go to YouTube and then there's a link in there to go to zoom and then in that there's a link into the back end chat thing called mukana which is something that Alex designed and built obviously and that's like a whole questions and answers thing where people can go and so you can go and watch the the call on zoom as an a sort of attendee but then they have a panel of zoom attendees and anybody can apply to be on the panel I want to say apply I just mean drop in there in the chat and say hey this is my skill set and they can go in and be a part of the panel and then the first hour is usually a Q&A so people who have like come along like you or I or anybody else can just drop any questions in about technical stuff to do with audio, visual or whatever it happens to be and then like the panel answers all the questions and then in the second hour they usually have like a bit of a focus on one thing or another or they have guests in to to talk about what they're doing but yeah it's really really great and a year's worth of two hours a day and that's a lot let's all have to catch up on but his his thing is he's trying to he's doing all this to build out this idea for him himself and for everybody else of how to take a big drive is sort of taking education to the next level because everybody's obviously doing a lot more stuff online so it's how you can do this sort of audio video stuff online and you know doing on-screen illustration and stuff like that but then also just doing these live streamed events because they're obviously all live streamed and then the people that are controlling it are based like all around the world so they've got the guy doing the video switching might be in Australia and they've got a sound guy who's in the Philippines who's controlling like the whole stream from multiple different locations and they sort of it's been like to watch it I've been watching it for probably about six months now but watching the evolution of it they're getting more and more sort of advanced with how everything's all working together and they're doing some really really cool stuff with with zoom and you know getting really really high quality images out of everything and what time of day does that come on your time? It will be I always end up watching the the replay I think it's about eight in the evening so it's a morning thing so they I think they say you have to be there at I'm not sure what time zone they're on but for Alex he says it starts at like six a.m or something you get there to to join the the sort of pre-show where you can get to a sound check and like if you want to join as a panelist or whatever and then I think they actually start properly I don't know if it's at seven o'clock in the morning is that would that be okay west west coast that makes sense yeah it's but what time is that there now five or four six five five a.m yeah yeah yeah so it's five it's exactly 12 hours from me so I'm five right five people here so so uh yeah it's uh really good wealth of wealth of information do you watch do you watch Tom's wife Heather's channel I've only recently started watching that yeah so I hadn't I I've sort of found out about Heather more from like the the community as well I mean obviously she's married to Tom so I know they did she does a every Friday she doesn't think all the YouTube huddle up where you talk about your goals for the week and she keeps you accountable and that kind of stuff but anyway today is her birthday and they did some kind of I caught the end of it I didn't see it so I gotta go back and watch the replay they did some kind of surprise thing for where everybody on the channel which is people or whatever did something so I gotta go back so go back and watch that one the YouTube huddle up from today yeah yeah yeah I've caught a couple of those ones I caught the end of one last week I think but yeah there's usually it's usually just outside of my my time zone I normally get about three o'clock and then I've got a bit of a morning routine so I often don't check on what's live at that time but our chat has it looks like our chat has died but there's still six people watching according to this I don't know if I can still see I can still see the chat so yeah I mean it doesn't look like it looks like blind grilling is the last guy that posted and that was a little bit ago but it doesn't matter I'm just curious he posted and said new subscriber and then Michael said welcome and then he's just popped in as well to say thank you oh howdy Michael so it does look like it might still be going I'm not sure yeah we'll find out so I'm not sure what's being covered in office hours tomorrow but it'll be uh I always find those so helpful like whatever anybody else's questions are this is that thing of like a the hive he doesn't he does it seven days a week huh oh Alex yeah sorry yeah yeah yeah oh what are you talking about oh you're talking about the zoom thing tomorrow night I was just talking about docs actually yeah but it's confusing so many people have got things oh you know I don't know I don't know if he's going to do that because it is a holiday weekend here of course it is yeah I was forgetting that hmm we'll find out I haven't yeah I guess we'll know I guess we'll figure it out soon but yeah I'm glad you mentioned that because otherwise I might have been sitting here thinking what's going on yeah no kidding yeah yeah but yeah they they're always so so good I find being a part of those so if anybody isn't isn't aware of them I'll just mention doc rock dot com slash uh oh no buy me a coffee dot com slash doc rock uh oh that's it yeah it's a great uh great group of people in there and uh it was really full last week wasn't it it was we had like 30 something on at one point it was nice yeah it was a good long good long and it was there's always fun stuff going on and you learn a lot so it's good yeah and how long have you been uh in that one form he started the poll lgl thing Thanksgiving of last year all right right that's when I discovered him and that group and then they did a live every day and well they didn't think on vlogmas where you go go video every day in December right right so I did that I made it to the 22nd and then there's just too much stuff in the world going on during Christmas time so I had to yeah yeah but it was fun and so I did video every day and was in that I was on the group every night watching the replays and they were doing like reviews and critiques so that's kind of where I got involved in that group so right right yeah it's probably that's where I met you know Eliseo and DJ Strick and Brant and rock and diana and all all those guys all the india all those all the heavy hitters so yeah it's a bit of a bit of a tricky time to attempt to do something live every day isn't it over over the festive period well that's why I clarified it's not live it's just it's called video every day so you can queue them up you could you could do them all summer and just do them in November yeah you can do whatever you want and just throw them up so yeah and I wasn't smart enough to do that so I was behind from the get go so you know I always have this you've got a way to do two figure out what forgot a way to do two or three at a time and kind of line them up and then you can take a weekend off or something that's probably the better way to do it yeah I always plan to do uh to do that like I have a few in the can sort of thing that I can just put out but then I always just seem to be you've got you've got 13 in the can extra if you can take 13 days off and still be on schedule well yeah I know but I mean I mean I always plan to have some that I could put out when I didn't get around to making one you know I mean have some that I haven't actually released that I could just put out but like yesterday I just did that I did one of all about stream deck or I did a series of videos about stream deck so I just sat down and did like five videos but then I just put them all out so yes oh at the same time we had I'll do that you need to well like a couple of a couple of hours apart or something like that but yeah they just sort of trickled out through the day but the part of the thing is as well like some of these things um I know that there's like a couple of people who are kind of waiting for them it's not like loads of people you know waiting for them but if somebody is waiting for a specific video or something I just think I might as well just put it out because I'm like I say I'm not really all about the numbers as such so I'm not I don't want to you know people got people talk about like oh what's the optimum time to put them out and I'm sure there is an optimum time and I could probably do a little bit of research and find that but I just think I've done it I'm gonna put it out yeah you know it's I don't know if all the everything's just a theory as far as yeah yeah nobody knows for sure yeah nobody knows for sure yeah so yeah yesterday I just did five of them there you go that's funny you did all five at once that's awesome I just sort of did them one after another but I was gonna do it all as one but then I think that you know when people see a video because in the end it was probably about I don't know two and a half hours or something like that a video so nobody's gonna watch a two and a half nobody wants to watch a two and a half hour yeah nobody's gonna sit through a two hour movie but they'll binge watch a 13 hour TV show yeah totally yeah yeah crazy yeah I think two and a half hours of me at any one time is probably a bit much for anybody to resist probably so probably so all right mate well I'm gonna hang up cool I hope you get somebody else on here I really appreciate you coming along and joining because it's as I say it's the first time I've walked someone in so yeah really appreciate you yeah this is the first time we've had dialogue actually you and me so that's good it is isn't it yeah I'm always amused by your comments and things like that in the air charts your sense of humor always tickles me so well prepare to be tickled some more we'll take you cool thanks a lot for coming Rich and I'll catch you later thanks Alex you too cheers bye bye take care right well there we go my first guest on my live stream if anybody else wants to hop in in then do right just follow that link yeah Rich is a great guy I always do like his sense of humor in the the groups so if you're watching on the replay I know most of the people that are in the chat are actually aware of these groups but I'll just mention it for anyone who isn't the software that I'm using to make this live stream with is Ecamm live and for the whole month of July they've got a 30 offer on Ecamm live so if you go to takeonetech.io slash ecamm then you can go and get your free trial there and then there's a 30 discount which is brilliant I highly recommend the software but as well as the the software itself the let I was gonna say let's get live community that's a separate one as well but the ecamm live community on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash ecamm live is I think they've got how many subscribers now how many members they've got about it's in the tens of thousands I don't know if it's 50,000 something like that is it or 15 I remember one of the two but yeah it's just full of really great people who are all doing their own different things with Ecamm live be it lots of youtubers on there but there's lots of people using it for you know professional stuff or lots of I know there's lots of church people use it to broadcast their churches since lockdown has stopped people getting out to the church so there's yeah lots of lots of great people on then it's really sort of supportive community as well and I know that I'm always every time I go on there I learn something that little trick that was on there the other day about using ecamm live in 4k and then having sort of a grid of your different four different cameras that me and Rich were just talking about I thought that that was absolute genius because it does mean that you can effectively have a four camera setup and if you were to be doing editing afterwards you can sort of switch between the different different cameras and I know a lot of people rave about the 8m minis and I did look at getting one of those myself before I discovered ecamm to be honest but now I just can't quite see the see the point for what I'm doing but the 8m mini is a little camera switcher so you can have up to four camera feeds or in there's a newer version now that you can have up to eight I think but it allows you to switch between the different cameras and that's one thing with ecamm live is I always thought that well it's recording and oh hello still listening that's good to hear thank you very much and yeah with them with ecamm live it sort of records and you know goes to tape or whatever and you've always only got the sort of active active camera but this little trick of having four of them in a sort of four up arrangement on the screen and then taking the feed into or the recording into into something like final cut and there you can crop the video so you could have you know four different channels all running with a different one of the cameras cropped and that would allow you to sort of review the thing afterwards and do a do a sort of camera switching and somebody is joining let me have a look one second I shall just add you in I've got to get to my correct scene and one second up there we go hello hi how are you I'm very good thank you how are you doing I'm good I just been a big fan of watching all your videos and as I saw you were live so I was like oh thank you very much and hi is it is it Greg Greg yeah just call me Greg yeah Greg Greg cool cool I literally I literally my stream deck arrived today I just was just watching your your videos on oh yeah how to put them together oh cool cool I love my stream deck I couldn't live without it I'm still trying to figure out you know um I have one button on it right now right right well that that's the best way start with this turn turns my lights on and off so oh cool where are you based where are you I'm based in Denver oh cool cool where are you based actually I mean I'm in Thailand oh you're in Thailand wow yeah so what time is it now 20 past five in the morning oh man yeah but I get up early so it's no problem I'm not I get up at 3 a.m myself so same yeah I get up at 3 and so I can start these videos or the live stream at 4 o'clock so I've got three young kids and uh yeah they're uh they get up a bit later so it gives me this little time of peace and quiet before the the silence is broken wow wow that's awesome so what sort of stuff do you do are you uh you producing videos and things like that as well or um I'm actually building a live streaming platform so cool cool yeah it's called zealous and I'm an entrepreneur and I do do a live stream once a week I do a show on the creator economy on Wednesdays right right uh and so what so you're actually building a platform a building an actual platform yeah we um it's kind of like uh hybrid between stream yard twitch and clubhouse right right so yeah so you can do live get anyone watching can come on stage kind of like you're doing now yeah but we can have up to 15 or 16 guests I think at the same time and uh and it's monetizable so you can actually charge subscriptions and upgrade people can pay to upgrade to get higher in the in the in the tiers to get on stage yeah yeah and and how's that going how far away from from launch are you with that uh it's good actually um we have the the streaming product is is sort of ready and we've been using it we've been testing it we did our after show last week on it uh and uh this week we have uh we have our multi-streaming uh going in so we'll be able to twitch and youtube and facebook uh simultaneously and then next week is monetization so actually you can set up like tiers like twitch where you can be like subs just or members on uh joint members on a club on youtube right right cool but uh we only take 10 percent not 30 percent right and uh and then you can also just privately stream to just those people uh if you want so yeah yeah kind of focused on creators and influencers who have like audiences that they want to sort of like do more one-on-one engagement with yeah yeah and what what's that what's it called again uh zealous uh zealos.app what i should really do is i should just put a little lower third z why is it zealos.app yeah i'll drop in the chat for you there we go that was easy i'm so i'm contemplating starting to use ecam as well i have other friends that you know friends that live and die by it actually um and uh i just haven't figured out um for so for example when we do our stream we live stream to like facebook linkedin youtube twitch but i also bring in clubhouse and twitter spaces audio all right right at the same time yeah so kind of thinking about maybe screen sharing my clubhouse or twitter space into the stream like by way of ecam right so i could sort of embed like a iphone alongside me got you yeah yeah so how has it been going like uh i think you've been doing like a ridiculous amount of videos per day uh yeah the the goal was so i started my channel 50 days ago or or at least my first video my first live stream was 50 days ago and then i've been doing basically a live a week but then also posting recorded videos as well and so my goal was 100 videos in 100 days and i'm 50 days in and i've actually done 63 videos so i'm a little bit ahead of myself yeah yeah does it um take a long time to edit i don't do any editing i just uh this is the premise of the channel take one tech is because uh i was i was making a course before and for an unrelated thing and i would record the videos and then edit them and i was kind of my own worst enemy really because i'd make the editing job very difficult so when i discovered ecam live and how you can just do this sort of live on the fly production sort of thing with the stream deck to switch between scenes and stuff like that uh it just really sort of opened my eyes to if i sit down in front of the camera i can actually just do it and i don't need to edit or retake anything and uh so that was that was the premise of the channel really so the channel was born out of a a desire to sort of practice this process of just being able to sit down make a video and then put it out and so that's kind of my processes i get up at three in the morning and have my little morning routine and then at nine o'clock sorry four o'clock rather i actually go and just make a video and put it out so every day is kind of like a video or sometimes if they're a bit short i make a couple but uh yeah i don't really do any editing except if there has been something gone wrong like a little kid's running into the room or something like that then i'll just chop it and slice it that makes perfect sense yeah i'm a huge fan of live streaming i think for that reason because i don't have the patience or time to edit that's exactly me it's like i don't look forward to it it's i'll just put it off if i think i've got to do editing so yeah that makes perfect sense and um and so you do you record it locally or do you stream it actually straight into youtube i do record so the live streams obviously live every week but the other ones i do record it locally but then in ecum live uh sometimes i'll just post it directly from there but then other times i'll i don't know why sometimes i do it one way and sometimes another but yeah i'll save it to the computer and then i'll just upload them so uh that makes yeah i know that um and do you need do you have like to keep a lot of a ton of storage then um that way so i've been so far i will have to but at the moment i've only 50 days in what i've been doing is that they're saved on my dropbox and i actually just as soon as i've uploaded it to youtube i just offload them off my hard drive so you know you can with dropbox you can have it either local storage or uh only in the cloud so i've just been just been doing that really at some point i'll have to i'll have to say i think dropbox is the number one drain on computer resources that there is yeah i always switch it off when i'm uh when i'm streaming right because it'll be trying to sync it as you as the file is writing yeah yeah i know i know the game uh well my i've had the same problem with i had an older laptop and i could not use my equipment with it right like the cam link was too heavy yeah for the for the usb port um and my saving grace about a year ago was i got the the m1 mac mini everything runs fine through it yeah you know like it's great there they're amazing i'm still holding out for the 16 inch macbook uh i've had it so my my computer is a 2013 macbook pro and i'm amazed that it actually runs all of these things yeah well i i do shut down like dropbox and anything that i don't need but yeah it's if i my processor at the moment is saying it's 78 percent so that's 78 percent of uh the four cores yeah it's not too bad though it's not too bad still right uh and do you run a big um because i i know like i have a 4k screen and that was part of what definitely used to mess me up i do actually i've got a 43 inch phillips monitor uh so it's a 4k 43 inch but sometimes what i do i don't i feel like this makes a difference but sometimes i actually change the resolution from 4k to 1920 by 1080 but that's because a lot of the time i'm doing a demo where i'm going to share my like entire screen and if uh if i was sharing a 4k screen on a yeah it gets way too small yeah so i thought well i'll just downsize it to the 1920 and i don't know if that actually i've got a feeling that that improves the performance because it's not trying to drive you know all those separate pixels i definitely i could agree with that idea conceptually because i know i i even stopped keeping my laptop open so that it was only powering one display got you yeah yeah and that actually maybe it was a placebo effect but it felt better yeah i think there's some things that i do that are placebo i think i've got everything turn this off turn that off and yeah so i appreciate it how long have you had the the mac mini for now um i got it like when they came out it's the lowest the lowest end version i you know i just wanted one i could get at the store without having to wait like weeks and weeks um so it's just eight gigs um i did get um the i haven't actually seen it i gave it to my partner already my co-founder um the 60 we bought a refurbished macbook air and he loves it he has like a he had like a 2014 macbook pro the 16 inch and he was just like he's like this computer is insane it has 16 gigs in one part of it and i don't think i'm getting it back but yeah apparently it's amazing um the macbook air as well i am waiting to see if the m2's come out or it's gotta be it's gotta be soon September usually september i think right or yeah yeah um yeah would be would be the time that we would imagine one coming but um yeah it made a big difference um i i couldn't i had to chalk my comp my cam link down so i would output at a lower resolution for my camera right otherwise it would get like all like you know slow and and weepy yeah if i and now with the with the m1 mac though mac mini it's great like you know i'm using 4k here and i've got my podcaster and everything else i got actually have a uh a tv monitor as well behind me now cool when i stream yeah i'm so i'm curious about this have you found a good solution for mounting your camera above your mon is your camera above your monitor yeah i can actually show you this because i've got a bit of a bit of a thing for this let me just quickly uh how can i do this easily because you know this is the problem i have i'm looking a little bit up mine is mine is literally almost sitting on stop on top of my uh thing i can actually just show you this if i add in another camera feed uh second i've got this prepared as a scene but i haven't got it prepared as a scene with a with a two up so i shall just quickly add it in so i add this picture in at the bottom and then if i switch on my mobile then i'm going to change this to be my other camera uh this one right so hopefully this should be right so what i've got is i've actually got like a monitor stand so this is like oh yeah nice that is like a floor standing monitor stand so my my monitor is not actually on the desk it's on a monitor stand so but like a wheeled stand so it means that sometimes when i'm doing uh some of my other core stuff then i can actually turn the monitor around and wheel it and position it somewhere else with a different background and then on the top yeah just uh sort of mounted a i've got a little ball joint on the top there you see that but it's just mounted to the top of the the monitor stand had this little sort of shelf thing that came with it so uh that's basically what i've i've got and that is a 10 year old canon eos 60d and then i've also got this little arm that has got a uh little top down camera which is just that is a uh i just wanted a little logitech camera and then my mic so i'll show you how i set mine up um so yeah so this is my that's the monitor back there but as similar i have um this little bar when i got my cap my what is that thing cook this light over here the uh the elgato light um the oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so i have the stand right it's so that's my monitor the edge of my monitor is right here and then i've got it my sony right above it so when i'm here i'm sort of looking i think i just broke the camera all right let's go back to this um oh my god did i lose you i can still hear you you just i've just lost all my cameras now frozen frame that's all try this oh maybe i froze up oh oh weird my camera just went out ah interesting well i apologize that's all right that's all right no problem you know that's what you get when you do live demos right i know totally yeah well yeah i saw i was i'm always trying to find like some way to look better through it maybe like a teleprompter um i didn't get to watch your last video that just came out oh so that that was yeah that was the illustration that was kind of writing on the screen as opposed to oh nice yeah the ipad yeah i saw the title i didn't get to watch yet the um yeah the the teleprompter i think that might be one of the next things i do because i do use this quite a lot for like zoom calls and things like that and i think it does make a difference if you've got you know you've got the uh i don't need a teleprompter for words but having the uh the screen in there to be able to look at the other people on the meeting and so on would be have that sort of the eye contact yeah that's definitely a little awkward with it uh is um is because i'm i'm turning sorry i was trying to fix that camera because i'm turning sometimes you know um because you're i'm looking a little bit up so it's like i put my my browser window is close to the top of my screen as possible so i'm kind of looking in the right direction that's that's what i do and then sometimes i'll try to do i'd be using the secondary monitor but i might just use for looking at the chat and stuff like that instead yeah uh well this is just if you with me not having videos so i'm gonna uh i appreciate you bringing me up though and no problem well thanks for coming on it's uh nice to not be uh have somebody to chat to oh for sure for sure and i'd love to show you our app one day so you can uh yeah definitely i can thoughts on how to make it better yeah i'll definitely have a head over and have a look at that as well so i appreciate it good to meet you you too thanks a lot you too have a great day bye bye bye you too well uh that was very nice nice unexpected guest uh so anybody else who wants to hop in then please go for it let's uh make a little note of that i'll drop that link into the chat as well because it'll be great to uh to see how that uh how that develops uh well it's almost coming uh whoops daisy it's almost coming to six o'clock so i've got about half an hour before my little boy wakes up that's always my sort of deadline anytime between half past five and half past six is decide is when he normally decides to get up but uh yeah that's been really great to uh to speak to a couple of people because as i say this is the first time that i've actually had a sort of live guest on the stream so uh i think one moment so what i was just about to pull up was let's go and have a little look at that site so we can show where it is uh and there we go it's coming up so let me just quickly hop over to this other screen there we go fantastic well thanks a lot for coming on greg and uh sharing this and we'll definitely keep our eye on this and check it out very good so uh yeah i'll leave a link to that in fact i could probably just copy it from here just drop it into the chat as well so what have i got planned for coming up for the channel well uh i've just done my uh sort of initial five uh stream deck videos and then i've got a whole series of those that i'm going to do which is sort of going to a slightly uh different level with it and then i'll do some like a full on advanced user guide uh but then oh and speaking of which yeah thanks for breaking those up yeah it would have been a bit much if i'd just done it all as one i was going to do that originally as one video and then uh yeah realized that there's probably going to be a bit more to cram in than than i could do in a single video so yeah the other ones that i'm going to do are um sort of how i use this with some of the other automation stuff that i do on my mac so we've got uh things such as oh thanks greg no problem it's a pleasure anybody's always welcome to come and join in uh so uh yeah i'll do a some about the sort of automation that i do so there's things like uh keyboard mystroke is a great application for the mac that you can use to uh basically trigger macros to do all kinds of different things on your mac with uh with keystrokes and because you can uh program like hotkeys to do all of these sort of macro actions then you can also obviously just link your stream deck to them so i'm going to do a whole video about exactly how i go about doing that and then i'll also uh with my stream deck in fact if i just come and quickly show you my uh screen one second this one over here so yeah i'll uh what i'm also going to do is for each of the sort of applications that i use i'm going to run through like how i've got those set up for those particular applications so this is for like excel photoshop by the way i did the one of the videos i did yesterday was about the photoshop icons that there are i'd i'd made my own so uh yeah the photoshop icons that you can get by going to the the store and then have a look in the downloadable icons they've got some for photoshop and uh premier pro and all those sorts of applications in there so they look pretty good uh then this is a sketch up so i've uh in a previous working role i was an architect so i still do do a bit of that so i do a lot of my 3d modeling in that and then obviously my keynote zoom and then this is a trading platform so at the moment i'm focused my main sort of main thing that i spend my time doing is on uh developing algorithmic trading models so uh this is the brokerage platform that we use for for that uh so uh that is what i've got in store for those and then i do intend to do more uh more sort of videos that are related to uh some of the other apps and things that i use on my computer so so far for the videos that i've done 63 i think i've majority of them have been either ecum live or stream deck but i will do some more about little like handy little menu bar apps and things like that that we can use to get some uh get some better productivity out of max so that's probably what i'm going to be working on for the rest of the week in terms of these uh live streams uh when i first started as i said my first video was a live stream and it was just all about the the setup that i'd got and the gear that i was using uh so i didn't really know the direction that the live streams were going to go into but i think what i'll do is i'll probably try to start doing some more sort of things like this you know bringing people onto the stream and then maybe just finding out how they're using these sort of tools to do do what they're doing so uh yeah just uh bear that in mind and i'll always leave this little link on and now that i know how to do it i've been tried it twice today then i'll just make sure i can always add somebody into uh into the stream now before i've finished there was one thing right at the very beginning uh in fact before i even started uh that michael asked so i do need to just answer that question and the question was how do you get your thumbnail to appear before you have even had the stream and and it is saved to youtube so uh i will just go and show you that because i go over to my screen sharing again uh you when you uh if you do it in ecamm live if you schedule your uh your stream in ecamm live then you can uh where you enter the details of the name and the description and so on then you can uh there it will ask you if you want to upload a thumbnail or if you come into your youtube studio so i'll come over to this for a moment so here we are in my youtube studio these are my previous lives and the uh the current one that i'm in as well just make this window a little bit bigger there we go uh so when you're creating a stream if you were going to do it in a youtube studio itself then you would click on this create and then we will click on go live which is also where you schedule your lives uh and so somewhere here if i do schedule a stream what it will do is uh we'll go to create new and i don't know what the limit is to how far ahead you can schedule stuff but uh i haven't got any scheduled at the moment i need to think about what i'm going to do next week in the week after but here you can see a sort of description and then here is the place to upload a thumbnail so that is where you just upload the thumbnail and then they'll just appear in youtube and i'm not sure how far in advance they start putting them up into people's uh sort of timelines or whatever whatever you call it in youtube uh the word escapes me uh but yeah that's where you would add the the thumbnail to uh to a planned stream uh but like i say if you are doing it in ecamm live as well because you can schedule stuff from there then you can equally just do it from in in ecamm live uh ah excellent that's answered that question so uh 30 days out for for youtube so uh yeah i've only ever done three weeks in advance i actually scheduled this live stream three weeks ago and i called it 50 videos in 50 days so i was uh so worried that i might not hit that target and then end up looking a little bit foolish but fortunately i did manage to get a few more out than i'd originally planned so that was good so thanks for clarifying that kreg so uh as i say i've not got a huge amount more unless anybody wants to jump on and chat maybe even longer yeah we'll see uh now that's interesting by the way i've got a quick question greg about uh your platform so uh that can stream to other uh two other platforms how would this compare with restream.io is this sort of similar to restream then where you can uh you can stream to multiple platforms is it a sort of similar thing to that or is it the the platform itself because i got i was under the impression it was a um like an actual platform itself as as youtube is but it can it then within that also stream to these other platforms uh just to uh just to make sure i fully understand that to be honest i i've got a use a restream account but i've never uh actually used it um i've used it once the i used it once the first time i went live because when i started doing this i thought well what i'll do is i'll try and stream to uh to other platforms so i'd got like a twitch account and a couple of others and my very first live stream i actually pressed the button to go live and then it popped up with all these different things because it opened up basically a browser window for every platform that i was trying to go to and then it almost crashed my computer so i just shut down the stream i just went to youtube so that was my experience with restream because i i wasn't i wasn't actually expecting exactly what was going to happen i should have probably watched a youtube video on what to expect i got you right right yeah cool well i'll definitely be uh be checking checking this out and uh yeah look forward to seeing how that progresses and uh yeah really really good if anybody's got anything that they want to to chat about you know like uh like greg or if you want to talk about how you have found using the software then i think that's probably what i'll focus these uh these live streams on going forward because uh yeah it gets a bit boring talking about myself got you of course yeah that's the killer feature yeah it's it's more like a uh sounds more like a sort of uh a hybrid of what restream because restream you're never actually streaming to that platform you're just pushing it out to other places so you seem like you've almost got the total package the platform the streaming to other platforms and also the built-in monetization sounds like a winning formula that does to me so uh yeah well i think uh with that i've run out of things to say this was intended to be yeah just an update on where i am with my uh my live stream help with my uh progress rather i will do a bit of a bigger one to uh and they'll also record that is the total package and that i'm going to have a good dig into this as soon as i've finished on this live stream and as soon as i've got my uh my little boy up and about then i shall definitely be having a big dig into this oh thank you james well likewise it's uh we're all newbies you and me both james i'd love to hear how your your stuff's going i know i watched your other stream i'd do let me know whenever your next one's going to be i'll definitely make an effort to to join in that um it's uh it should be honest with you i should i should mention since we're talking about this uh well so when i started uh 50 days ago all that time ago i think one of the things that i hadn't anticipated is i've mentioned it earlier is how um how much of a bigger role the like the ecamm live community has played played in this and uh it's really made it um uh something quite quite different than i was anticipating you know i had this idea of making these videos to obviously share the knowledge that i've got and also to practice this process of doing these videos of live in one take well this is obviously a live stream but my other recorded videos to just do them live in in one take uh to tape as it were uh and sort of get over the uh the issues that i had when i had to do any editing so that was kind of my motivation for starting the channel but really it's become something that uh rather than being a sort of testbed for the the process it's something that i've been really really enjoying and it's from uh knowing that i've been helping people like uh like you james and uh other people in the chat like michael and and greg and whoever else is uh all of these people that have commented and said you know thanks for the the videos and so on it's uh it really gives me a nice feeling to know that it's making some difference to some people and uh incidentally if ever there's anything in the videos as i always say that you've found is unclear or that could have been uh could have been done better or that something else that you want explaining further then you can always reach out either in the comments or through my website which i should probably mention is take one tech dot i o so if you haven't been there already then take one tech dot i o in fact i've just covered up my uh my actual link there there it is at the bottom in fact that's my e-com live one so my website is take one tech dot i o and there i've got a uh a contact page but then also i've got a little uh chat bot at the bottom when i'm available then that will be on and so yeah if you've got anything that you want any questions answered or anything that's unclear in my videos or that you want me to cover then i'm always open to suggestions and we'll always try and uh make a video on them if it's something i know how to do and uh if it's already on my list then i'll always bump it up to the top of the list so that i can get that get that out there so with that i think it's almost time for me to go and get my little boy ready as he's about to wake up it's been really nice to speak to you all and to speak with you for those that joined it's been uh yeah really nice and i will definitely be making a habit of having people on the stream uh stream elements now that is something now you see this might start me on a little rabbit hole stream elements yeah that is something that i've um i've been looking at it's not something i've used myself although i've been thinking about it as i've been you know starting to do these streams when there are sort of slightly more people on them because obviously my first one was just to me all on my own six weeks ago whenever it was uh so uh yeah i will look into that and um in fact it was uh it was rich who was on the uh on the stream earlier was talking about uh wanting to get things like uh like a playlist for the music or rather the current playing track of whatever music was playing and having that brought in and i've got a feeling he might have solved that with stream elements it might be it might be wrong but uh i'll i'll definitely look into it craig and then i'll um i'll look into it figure it out and then make a video about it that's what i normally do so yeah once again thank you very much for coming and joining me on this sunday morning and uh thanks michael i'm really looking forward to your first stream by the way michael your first official stream that is and uh yeah well i look forward to seeing you there in in wrinkle city uh that's that's michael's words by the way that wasn't an insult and uh oh great james i finally have a better understanding of loopback and yeah the audio hijack yeah loopback and audio hijack they are um they're very good apps but i think sometimes there's a lot talked about them in the ecum live community about people using loopback so uh it's not always necessary so hopefully you'll see when you watch maybe that video and the other one that uh yeah whether actually you need it or not because not everybody does need it but i'm glad it was useful james and uh again i look forward to seeing you next stream as well so thank you very much all for coming along whatever time it is where you are it's 10 to 6 in the morning here so uh thank you very much and i look forward to seeing you all again and i will just put my little outro screen so that on the replay i can add some little links to some other videos so for those watching on the replay there'll be some other videos coming up next and to everyone else have a wonderful day and i'll see you again soon