 Matt, I think this is your first time on, is that right? Yes, it is my first time. All right, welcome. Thank you. I've been a passive ARI supporter for several years, but I'm finally ready to make the effort to become more involved. And a lot of some of that was motivated by I'm about to become a father. So it just occurred to me that I want to clarify my own ideas and instincts. So I have this new person joining me with a fresh start. So I'd like to get him or her just with the right mental footing start going into their life. Joe, that's great. That's great. Yeah, so I wanted to start off with something I thought of and I think is true and see your thoughts on it. It was so many things in the world as it is today, that I find to be immoral and from an objective point of view, but it occurred to me that it seems to my observation that most people want to be moral. Most people try to be moral. They just have the wrong moral code, something like altruism or some religion. I thought that was a positive sign for the future that most people seems like they do have the intention to be moral. Yeah, so I think absolutely. I think human beings need morality. They need guidance. They need to know what's right and wrong. They want that. The challenge with altruism is, and so they want to be moral and then they are confronted by altruism which doesn't really give them guidance and doesn't really advance their life. And then so many of them become cynical or skeptical or abandon, not completely abandon morality, but kind of wing it and become more pragmatic. And again, most people are split or divided. They have some self-interest in them and they couldn't live otherwise. They pursue certain values rationally. Again, they couldn't survive if they didn't. They have this nagging altruistic thing in the back of their head that says, but you should be doing this which results unfortunately in guilt and voting in very bad ways and other things like that. And then they have a part of them that kind of tries to get away with stuff because they know that morality is not practical. And I've always thought this is how in, right? I think the in objectivism has is, hey, wouldn't you like to have a morality that's actually practical? Wouldn't you want a morality that actually leads to success and happiness where you don't have to feel guilty for being, for doing things that actually promote your own life? I think at the end of the day, that is our strength and it's what we should be advocating, but it's still very hard to yank people away from the altruism, particularly, altruism is not a phenomenal job. Not only presenting people with the idea that theirs is the only morality, but also with the, with straw manning selfishness. I mean, I was at the, I did this debate with, you know, Macky, John Macky, the CEO of Whole Foods on Friday, on Thursday. And John Macky is a smart guy, very successful entrepreneur, a nominally pro-capitalist, right? Consider yourself a libertarian pro-capitalist has been exposed to objectivism, it's Red Ein Rand. And the whole time he was straw manning selfishness and straw manning objective, the objectivist ethics. And he is a guy who by every measure should know better. And obviously a smart guy, I think, right? He couldn't be as successful as he is without that, exposed to it directly from Ein Rand and through people like John Allison. And yet he's still straw manning it. It's still true that objectivists don't care about other people and selfishness is about, you know, being nasty to other people and doing horrible things and not, it just, you know, it just was bizarre. So, but that's the challenge that we are, that we're indeed facing. So it's hard. It's hard to get the altruism out of them. Thanks, Matt. What we need today, what I call the new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think. 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