 dancing like always dancing dancing when we listen to our our intro music and our outro music how was your week then Greg it's been good it's been busy but it's been good I want to point out that Greg is wearing orange today yes and and that he has kind of bastardized his math Ontario to it there that is actually his math shirt with a October fest wiki tree that's right there we go I say you know you know the mother of invention there you go that's Greg Greg is the mother of invention today oh wonderful week you know what monday is don't you uh monday is halloween it's also the end of the last official day of hactober fest are you having your last hactober fest thing on monday no we had our last uh regular thursday update this past thursday and then the official closing of it um will take place on wiki tree day at 10 am i'm hosting a technology panel and at that point we will officially end off at tober fest and reveal all the different things that have happened what time is your is that at the is that the one that's across from me i don't know it's 10 10 o'clock in the morning 10 yeah i said the aio and i said you realize you put put greg and i back to back no yeah oh i'm not gonna have anybody in my talk now well i don't know but they can watch yours on replay i guess oh yeah they can watch you on they can watch mine on replay yeah you can watch mine live you're so funny oh yes you know uh do you have any unusual deaths in your research have you found any unusual deaths this is a great question of the week yeah it is it's a great question of the week so the one the one i found when i what not in my immediate family but when i was doing one of the wiki tree challenges um connected um i think it was last year i was researching a family in cobec and i found the the death of one person um well i guess there was two of them the same family uh um one was uh one was a sort of a tragic one i i found this one record and i had to translate it it was in french but it was extra long and i thought because you know often these ones are they sort of follow the same formula right you know starts out with the priest identifying themselves and um and bragging about who they are and what church they belong to and then the details about the the deceased and um people present and then that's it but this one had like a whole extra paragraph and it was because it described that not only the person that i was looking for but six other names because they'd all drowned in a voting ax or an accident like a voting accident off the river ship it well okay so you get the gist of what today's question of the week is going to be like so there you go um that's crazy yeah the other one to balance that though the next rep person i looked up i found it was a husband and a wife who had just died one day apart like they were they were both in their 80s or something and they just and then they were buried they were buried in the same like the same day at the funeral they had the same funeral oh thank you have an m&m but they're poisonous oh no you know one of the one of the answers to the question the week is about poison poisoning by eating popcorn but not because the popcorn was poisonous interesting story there so the question of the week this week is what unusual deaths have you found in your family research always have good questions of the week but i love the spooky ones i had a crazy crazy crazy crazy nightmare right before i woke up this morning about being lost in the london transit system with a bunch of genies yeah genies are people that are genealogists that you know we all travel together so it was with a bunch of genies traveling around and they got us lost of course they got i had nothing to do with getting us lost i had no no not you so i finally got away from them and was was about to figure out how to get myself back to the hotel and i woke up i woke up startled that i've forgotten to tell chris farrell or something so i immediately sent a text to chris because i didn't want to taunt the thing but i started reading the questions of the week in bed before i even got up and it so cheered me up really all this stuff about death cheered you up all this all this death talk cheered me up oh man it's halloween weekend people question of the week what unusual deaths have you found in your research uh have a comment i don't normally mention the comments but i got to on this one it's pat miller she says good question aowan uh benjamin wilson 1909 second cousin went to the outhouse locked the door and shot himself 24 hours later the sun broke the door down and found him you know what i did not do this morning i did not say hello to everybody oh so let's go back and do that let's go say hello chris is there hillary was the first one she she always wins the race for being the first one in this morning arman weston's here judy stutz norman uh let's see i'm here wiki tree said hey this morning that's me um and this is a special person kim robert showed up she's gonna be she is connected to one of the question of the week answers in just a minute um let's see janine aisman hey janine how are you lisa draves another ottawa person that's three of us so far uh let's see susan anderson john tiner hello ireland yeah uh let's see um tommy buck what tommy buck betsy coe tommy buck um patricia i lost her i lost her chris batterie alo debbie root okay you got julian uh you guys are all here mary cod alan i always like that saying her name i always want to say mary tom leakin so the first one is the outhouse suicide so i'll give you that one it was a comment not a question i didn't pick the best one so we'll work on that this morning uh daniel volkman says my great grandfather was killed by a drunk driver in a hidden run while he was walking home from his job in chicago he was 71 that was 1948 my grandfather and other family members went searching found the car that hid him they had the matching foot ornament isn't that awful yeah uh there wasn't enough evidence to convict i found a little ornament on the band's body yeah i loved we got some fun looking uh i told greg he's not going to have time to do his stuff today i'm going to take all that's okay one of my maternal third great grandfather samuel l archer died similarly to his son nelson archer who died just two years before they were both found dead on the side of the road their horses went home without them foul play was suspected but not proven so basically they were riding each one of them separately at separate times were riding home and they their horse came home without them the family went out and found them they found bruising and everything now the the comment is from jessica key she says the bruising could have been from falling from the horse and that they probably had some sort of hereditary art issue or something that just afflicted them at the same spot i mean riding a horse would be like driving in a car right unfortunately we lost a great performer this week yes had an emergency episode leslie jordan had something happen to him in his car while he was driving so how much different is that from somebody riding a horse right does it say what year this was uh this one was because talking about horses i'm picturing this is like the 1800s or something but yeah i have no idea and looking at the um looking at the newspaper it may have been early 1900s maybe um october 7 uh march 17th but it doesn't they don't have a year there's not a link so we can't go and check it so the next one from vik watt the wind storm and years went through chilicot ohio now chilicot is something awful happened in chilicot later but i can't remember what it was but i just remember that chilicot ohio was somewhere something something bad happened in chilicot ohio on the night of july 5th 1913 930 charles watt 56 who lived on sugar street was electrocuted while walking home the windstorm knocked down heavy limb from a sugar tree onto the electric lines this caused the light pole and its wires to fall but that's not enough folks no put all the electricity and the street lights are that a part of the town out but the wires fell across the traction trolley's third rail the third rail is the one that carries the electricity so not only did we get shot from the electrical wires from the street lights but also the trolley wires don't ever step on the third rail and if there's ever a big storm i mean we had our sixth tornado breakout here in Ottawa a few years ago don't go out and walk around after the storm let the cruise clean it up sorry for your lost pick what let's see premature burial uh i don't like these stories in researching francis catherine langay nay gunter nicol i found that her grandmother alice davies was a victim of a premature burial yeah it's not as you think it is she ran into poppy water poppy water passed out and could not be awakened was declared dead buried it was the summer and so they buried her quickly right then she was on earth when some children playing in the cemetery heard cries from help from the grave oh my lord how scary would that be they dug her up and she was found to have really died what later they moved her grave and they realized that she hadn't been dead the second time because she had tried to get herself out after the second burial no yeah uh i'm looking here we've got i've got a runaway horse kind of story here in a few minutes some of the great comments the drowned in the canal in upstate new york died from pneumonia after falling off a horse i got a falling off story in a minute that's great um my second great-grandfather edward macaulay long was shot in the back while riding his horse across the missouri river bridge in 1879 he was coming home from work in at just incanses and he was assassinated interesting that they called in an assassination instead of a murder uh he was 43 and had been a lieutenant in the union army he wasn't at the time though um but they call it an assassination they never found the guy but they call it an assassination that's from alexis nelson gordon to death by a bore yeah separating a bore a wild bore from the other pigs on his farm yeah that's kind of gory that's from shonda feather um um do you the place to locate his family this one um tombstone inscription borrowed from that well shakespeare's tomb but somewhat in memory of nath then your hickock who died of cholera on october the sixth he he actually came to town on a boat that was covered up with cholera he left the boat didn't have cholera and then got it after he got to town oh uh yeah uh that was from denise denise burman okay this one okay i i actually went and figured out for ninth station on this one so repert nate bimson neville was a sheriff in hawaii hawaii in hawaii from liverpool yeah uh and he was um he died as a result of the kauna yeah that yeah yeah interaction uh it was widely reported in newspapers along with the trial of the kauna some of his cohorts so basically what happened was that this this kauna guy had a end of the earth cult okay he was saying that the world was gonna armageddon was coming and he was getting his followers together into an area where the volcano wasn't going to destroy this particular part then they got evicted from that there was all this other stuff going on so eventually there was a big thing where the sheriff was involved and he ended up being stoned to death but that's it that's an interesting one i love that people posted the original article the original article was a little bit um skewed so i didn't want to read the original article if you want to read the original article it's got some stuff in there that was a bit racist on my oh yes i didn't want to read it yeah um but rob neff actually family articles for him but that's cool love that collaborative archaeology archaeology that is neat yeah yeah genealogy jessith nickles toxemia from berms accidentally caused by placing a lit cigarette into his pocket in which matches were and under the influence of drink he said he died from the burns he set himself a fire oh no that's from day garwood did you see the last line in the post if only the darwin awards were around in his day and rick moorley says in fact they were yes oh my grandparents uh one antonio regus the capyrio his wife manuela delgado e pectio carvajal and anesthesia a slave from one antonio and the manuela were murdered speared in his farm so i think i have that one up oh yeah i do i'm not gonna try and read these people oh my goodness i'm not gonna try and read that even this script looks scary yeah i don't have no doubt they got speared i trust you i believe it looks like a one of those horse shot diagrams with those blotches yeah what do you see in this ink yeah that's right i see a frog played for dissection enough two stories unfortunately i don't remember either name an in-law on my ungreft side in the decodas according to the obituary got a bad case of hiccups and died that evening wow really nobody tried to scare the guy or maybe his hiccups upset the people in the house so much that they just had to shut them up i can't sleep boom yeah oh can you stop that noise yeah that's right a woman i think in virginia that i was adding for the u.s black history challenge had an unusual entry for her death certificate instead of the usual medical lingo about causative it was written there wasn't a thing wrong with her she just up and died it was very disappointing oh rob neff crazy died yeah and let's see the running from there's still talking about the horse that's still talking about the horse um let's see my second cousin shot himself up what the heck is this one shot himself out of a cannon from a hot air balloon so we're all thinking about this head first coming out of the cannon yeah parachute malfunction he fell to his death and you it's especially graving the man shot himself out of the cannon feet first feet first how did he even survive his parachute didn't open because he couldn't open it he was already dead he must have been yeah really i'm sorry why would you go for me oh no no i think caution or the cannon would have killed him oh yeah yeah sounds like a pioneer of two sports and not a day over 18 i wonder what he would have tried next what would have killed him next if he yeah exactly uh sorry melissa sorry pretty spectacular stun i can only imagine if it had been successful his confidence and pride pushed him to do something more spectacular um okay and here k smith actually found it after reading the article i would be surprised if it if the charge from the cannon didn't break his neck yeah since he was shot out first so yeah there you go yeah jill whitehouse it seems that being familiar was a dangerous being a miller was a being familiar yeah being familiar with a miller yeah it was a dangerous occupation one of my extended family whale 291 had a windmill and both his wife and young son were killed by being hit by the sails now my cousin designs the big g e windmills they're windmills here that are his design wow yeah that's cool yeah i can drive through and say yeah that's a galdin design that's a galdin design nice but i guess in the old days they had the windmill cells down closer to the to earth and people could actually walk into them right so that that's kind of don't keep OD frame of thought thing yes uh in the 1800s um had a cousin the 1800 whose two children five and six fell into a well that was being dug um and then another a couple of cousins died from lead poisoning and then laid out hundreds uh robbed the same bank in cockyville panzas here's another writing example oh that's that's at least legible well if you'll blow it up at least it's not like the chicken scratch like that previous one which is what a lot of the Quebec stuff looks like the I think in back records the drawing records are beautiful oh well it varies some of some of the priests have beautiful writing and others are just that chicken scratch like the one you had pulled up earlier ancestor of mine was executed this is from daniel bamberger um 1693 for the first trying to poison her husband and then when that didn't work killing him with the help of her lover and trying to make it look like her husband fell from a tree can you imagine trying to lug a body up into a well oh my goodness yeah i'm still not sure if i'm convinced of the evidence she was either a cold-blooded killer or the victim of heresy or coincidence and is this written in german uh no no i see it's written in english well wait a minute i see it a lot i don't know i can't tell it's you know fun till death do you part really uh let's see the end most unlike incident resulting in death that i've encountered was rooted by my uncle james mcnickle a memoir he left uh 1872 alert county kansas looking for a good homestead uh their parents and two other members of the family over 21 one afternoon they were riding along a wagon track and saw ahead of them a covered wagon evidently driven by a father with his early teenage daughter while the sky didn't seem ominous and it was not raining a bolt of lightning struck the wagon killing the driver wow wow early teenage daughter the wife uh the daughter although she was sitting on the bench next uh to her father oh early teenage daughter i'm sorry i thought wife okay daughter although she had been sitting on the bench as her father uh was not hurt james and john buried the girl's father and he and his daughter uh had been meeting going to meet up with relatives not far away they they left the girl and just went on their way what yeah they just left her and buried her father and just left her on her own yep yep i'm not sure that story actually came out right okay i thought it was gonna end with um james or john you know marrying the daughter the daughter but no no they have been well so they were half chivalrous and then clueless and dear does a good job of writing this eloquently we tutel along in our compilations of family history and try to make decent profiles for our ancestors every once in a while we come across one of them we remember being told about though the particular details of their life got lost through time then out of the blue bam years made decades later we're smacked in the face with evidence of what really happened and we realized grandma didn't go into enough detail okay but the newspapers of that earlier current period when the evidence events took place sure did unfortunately for grandma and her social dignity in a nutshell grandmother's older sister wasn't a good judge of character married a man who turned out was wanted for murder killed his first wife while the two of them were drunk fled the state married a second deserted her changed his name continued to reclote relocate from the original farm trying to find a geographic uh save house uh he met grandma's sister who was very unworldly swept her off her feet actually took care of her uh being a sweet person stayed with my grandparents for a while before moving on eventually seemed fine until the law chasing him from the end of country to the other finally caught up yada yada yada yeah yeah sometimes our grandparents don't tell us the whole story yes that's right oh toronto's mount pleasant cemetery discovered a second great uncle of whom i've been completely unaware benny cameron whose name is around the corner from his parents on their memorial i got to finding out about him as two wives and at least seven children the eldest named benny cameron served in the canadian expeditionary forces almost said canadian canadian um because canada's just up the street right yes during world war two born but was continually poor health underwent frequent hospitalization after being subjected to tonsillectomy and hemorrhoidectomy ow both ends he was diagnosed with chronic bronchitis discharged and unfit for service 10 years later died when he was accidentally poisoned by illuminating gas used for street lighting wow how do you do that i don't know actually poisoned by illuminate was he was he streetlight huffing yeah streetlight huffing yeah really so this is after the war of 19 the war ended in 1918 did they still use street lights like wouldn't they be electric lights by then yeah i don't i imagine that there was a time like like we're changing over our money to king charles now but it'll be a long time before that money comes into circulation right so like with gas they got to put in in all those gas lines and all that so because you can't put those above ground no because people will find them and huff them and huff them apparently oh dan mcnally says my great-uncle thomas wilfred cologne jr died 1919 when he was eight years old he and a group of other children were swimming in a quarry in rutlin vermont he was on a raft which tipped over and he drowned i can't imagine the pain of my grandparents suffered he was the second of their eight children to die as children the first passed away when he was only a baby now that is not a weird or crazy story but it's still heartwarming heartwarming it's an unusual story there you go um so many unusual death stories one account i read was director a direct to ancestor of mine uh up my mobili branch up my mobili branch now that's almost an adjective up my my tree when the revolutionary war was going on of middleton mobili's military service say that three times oh my goodness as a loyalist in subsequent death by hanging one story said patrice hung him left the scene cut his wife cut him down alive and then he was hung again later in 1792 whether this rehanging occurred or not it's still an unusual event i have a my great sixth fifth great grandfather was hanged he was a patriot in the revolution he was hanged because he overheard the bloody bill cunningham his men were talking about going to the hub's house to hang mr hubs for being a patriot so my teenage ancestor ran through the woods warned the hubs hit hubs under a pile of hay for the counts the tories came they they searched the hay they searched the whole farm for hubs couldn't find him hung my ancestor charles allen because they figured he knew something because he shouldn't have been there when they left they cut charles allen down or i wouldn't be here and he survived i was going to say if he was a teenager when he did this then he got busy early he was your ancestor he survived and another story about charles allen is that he was one of the people who decided where the courthouse was going to be where the center of town was going to be in laurence county south carolina and they were walking through the woods trying to figure out where to put the courthouse found a guy with a still stopped for a while got so drunk that when they finally got up to the top of the hill they said okay this has to be it because we're not going any further i got another thing to share i said that kim robert is in here because i'm going to talk about alphonse de jardin now i've been talking about kim because kim's aunt victoria marie aleen robert was married to alphonse de jardin which is my spouse's great grandfather and this family has an interesting the whole family not just this part of the family they have an interesting thing about fire so unusual deaths so alphonse um died in uh where did where is it uh he died in uh do i not have it written down yeah alphonse de jardin died in the parliament hill fire in february of 1916 here in canada now it is a fairly well known fire a huge fire that happened and at the time of the fire they think that it was the germans who had set the place on fire now alphonse was a brown coat was the pre cursor to the rcmp so he was he was looking for spies at parliament as well as protecting the parliamentary uh people that were there and he spent some time running back and forth into the burning building to help get people out of the building so he was responsible for saving a lot of people but one of the weirdest things about this if you go into our parliament hill today you will see a plaque that lists the names and you'll see alphonse de jardin and then you'll see alphonse de jardin again so the fire claimed seven victims randolph fanning a post office employee alphonse de jardin a boil really boiler room maintenance worker and his namesake i added that nephew a police officer also named the fellow alphonse de jardin they were crushed by collapsing ventilation tower as they helped colleagues flee okay so that that's the one thing okay here let's jump over to andrew curran 1886 to 1915 okay this is my spouse's other great grandfather andrew curran now first off in 1913 i believe children meet death at one home caught fire so the andrew and his wife go out on christmas morning to hook up the horses to take the kids into their grandparents house for christmas there's only one child that's not there she's already at the grandparents house and that is betty they had split the house in two and were building on to the house to make the house bigger well back then when you wanted to insulate you use newspapers right so they had lit a big fire in this under construction house to warm it up so the kids could get up get dressed get themselves together to go for christmas the house caught fire and all of the kids died oh that's one one story so here's that story about the fire oh that's that's then mr curran andrew curran was working after a fire at the experimental farm the big dairy farm at the experimental farm this beautiful farm caught on fire in 1913 and had heavy damage and he worked on repairing that he was a carpenter he built and designed and built a lot of the houses that are currently still standing in west borough part of ottawa he was on that and had some sort of paralytic stroke now whether it was sunstroke or what happened but he fell after repairing the fire damage and died a week later from his injuries from that um let's see wow so and yeah this so even though even though he didn't die by fire if it hadn't been for the fire and what he was doing because it to repair it he died right then this family the for the disjardin family uh victoria robert kim robert's aunt they were all living in a building on the housey street in downtown ottawa that had a candy factory in the basement or the first floor of the building the candy factory caught on fire and everything burned so we have no family pictures or anything oh no kim robert has been sharing family pictures with me how exciting is that thank you that is great so that's my weird unusual story about desks okay wow so let's go back to this look it's 930 greg right and we've just gone through a free page one whoo-hoo all right because we're having fun and you're having fun or we'll we'll uh we'll get rid of me and and turn and turn to greg hey how are you doing second great was the first northwest mounted police now arcs and feet of die-on duty that's sad but good to see you yeah uh let's see yeah lots of fires lots of ottawa history in this family big time oh and look kim says you are most welcome max how cool is that at least it's like ottawa stories yeah if i can have a comment on the commenting on the fact that there are so many people who post in the question of the week about canada stuff yes we wondered if we were influencing that in some way that's great we're not scaring away scaring away americans we're just attracting more canadians right we are we are that's right uh let's see uh maggie in not my family but i've been recently searching the ancestors a singer-songwriter nancy griffith who was one of my favorite songwriters i have met her and her great-grandfather was murdered uh westley bitton anderson who owned a boarding house i believe while escorting a group of rowdy men out of his boarding house there's that story um let's see thank you maggie second great-grand uncle died at the age of seven when the shawl he was wearing got caught in the gears of the mill his father was conducting some business in oh that's nasty that's from john basking oh that means i have a great uncle who died in a thrashing machine accident he was thrashed yeah he was thrashed yeah got caught into the the feeder that takes the stuff in and chops it all up yeah that's wow yeah that's that was nasty i mean this is way before i was through the week what's that why didn't you put that up for the question of the week um well i haven't actually made his profile yet this is on my adoptive side and i haven't done all that stuff i know i know i know sorry agar echblad says uh in the death book 1694 for my favorite parishes skin sketch the bird there are two related entries for the deaths of two educated but unwise young men who accidentally poisoned themselves by snorting nose powder one of them had pilfered from among the medic medicaments uh in the chamber of a former apothecary current copper mine owner george brant uh the powder smelled swede no they snorted this powder they found in a oh no no uh great aunt hung herself she was accused of being a witch jenice so so uh my great grandfather ross cook seed bitten by dog slashed his throat at mary scherman hospital now i looked up hydrophobia and it is it is a fear of water and it is something that happens when one has it rabies yeah somebody also commented after i did the work of looking it up it's major symptom of rabies so sorry about that but i thought those two were actually synonymous that hydrophobia is just the official name of rabies but you say they're two different things well let's see if i can find where i looked that up i actually looked it up somewhere you can see all the great so he slashed his own throat here we go hydrophobia extreme or irrational fear of water especially as a symptom of rabies so not as far as you know google yeah google's a friend i have two kind that spring to mind from my tree from an anonymous zimmer first would be gilford b lingley who was four years old in 1893 when he was playing with a friend and discovered a box of rat poison after playing with a boxer some while he eventually goes to the movies with his mother eats some popcorn in his dirty hands and yeah he wants synonymous yeah maybe not this time um the other would be uriel mora house who committed suicide by holding a stick of dynamite to his head uh interestingly he didn't actually die immediately even though the larger part of his head and hand were blowing off no uh died at a fair in canada after the seat of his wagon tipped which made him fall off that's from steven sanders shocked to learn that two of my great grand aunts trapped in the precious blood church fire in holly oak massachusetts in 1875 nancy hicks great grandfather napoleon descito should i say that right this descotto or descotto yeah descotto died from injury sustain when his head was crushed between two rail cars i had somebody in my family who fell off the train and died wow yeah great uncle mcallum died at 14 under mysterious circumstances she went to visit france and recounted the tale of hearing strange music in the forest she did not return home was found dead and around the same place she recounted hearing the music without any mark on her body that's a spooky one yeah that's from brian lamar uh digging for fishing worms uh in washington ship fell dead probably had a heart attack or a stroke uh fire engine fell over on him that's another dobe and sharon castile wow uh tip over accident uh thinning will fell on a child again the tip over accident for a long time used to be the big heavy tv sets oh yeah i remember i remember yeah a kid in my kid's school when they were young did had that happen uh cringe worthy cringe worthy adam folk six 62 a swan pound ship met death last week in the following manner he had returned from avila with his team and was driving them through a large gate into his yard when the gate swung to against the wheel of his wagon frat grinding the horses they ran pulling him anyway i'm gonna read the rest of that um another one down down the way is about nipping the tail uh pinning the tail of a whatever a draft horse guy was holding the bridle the draft horse when they cut the tail it hit him and yeah oh draft horses are a big scary thing they're big yeah yeah um yeah this is it the one i don't know why they put it in as an entire link but that's interesting uh death certificate on cross railroad tracks killed him instantly when the train hit him let's see employees giving evidence confirmed his death identity the case was abandoned he just asked to attend drop gun court uh newspaper this is another band killed's wife see i'm trying to rush through now remember to go through and upvote these question answers um died from burns when his coals caught on fire while making apple butter now that is a shame oh my friend my friend the donna gerber apple butter oh this was just added 14 minutes ago is there's now a third page that wasn't there that wasn't there before yeah so that's the question you know what they're padding the list mags so because they don't want to hear from me that's the thing if we add enough stories mags will keep on going till 11 o'clock and then they don't have to that would be a first okay uh stop it we oh no i have a relative did crushed in a mine rail car oh no thank you no lisa thinks you're funny greg well that's good at least someone does and erin gullison says it's threshing not thrashing oh really well maybe but we always call it in my part of Ontario we call it a thrashing machine you got to check you got to check google i know it's i know it's spelled with an e so i it should be threshing but we call it thrashing and people are talking about uh the roberish family coming from russia on east june so that's good uh that's lisa duvay the the otter ones are talking now and chris fariello says crack cocaine nose powder yeah there's no pattern my grandmother sister died at two she was by the fireplace in her dress called fire holy crap and norman i agree these are all very gruesome yeah all right yeah there's there's lots of stuff going on in the comments check them out hey also while you're here go down there and click that like button the like button yes yep give us some likes oh and donna look i'm okay with you going past 11 nice stop my share now wow well those those were amazing answers to the question that was the good good scary stories gruesome scary stories for allowing very good gruesome you know i'm not a huge fan of horror horror films or anything like that so i don't like the kind of films where they startle you to death i like a good ghost story though yeah yeah yeah don't flash a scary one that's mysterious and you know yeah i like the mystery yeah don't necessarily not a huge fan of the gore necessarily but speaking of mystery uh the master of mysteries alford hitchcock um is the theme for this week for the this week's profiles and and greg i am afraid some of the conversations are going to continue for a while oh i know right now that's okay um anyways alford hitchcock so now my first connection or my my first um the first time i met alford hitchcock was when i was i don't know i guess i think it was about grade five i started reading the alford hitchcock and the three investigators oh that's fun you know did you ever read it was a series like it was it was sort of like the hearty boys um type you know so the main the main investigators the main characters were three three young boys who were young teenagers or something jupiter jones peat there was a peat crencha and i can't remember the name of the third one but anyways they um they were fans of alford hitchcock and they wrote to him sort of to be like so that he could sort of be their um i don't know mentor or something and he would he would sometimes write back so i mean he appeared either in the very first of the very last chapter in terms of like he wrote a note you know so it was sort of more about like a it was a gimmick i guess um but uh really it was just like a hearty boys mystery kind of kind of thing but so that was when i first heard about alford hitchcock because i of course we wouldn't i wouldn't have been allowed to watch any alford hitchcock movies that young right eventually that's why yours worked that you are but he did do a lots of lots of really neat things and so let's go through some of those profiles so first off with his alford hitchcock himself alford joseph hitchcock knight of the british empire was born on the 13th of august in 1899 i checked it's not a friday the 13th it was actually on a sunday he was born but i thought wouldn't it have been appropriate if he had been uh born on a friday the 13th but no uh in leighton leighton stone or leighton ston sx england i wonder if you in england if you pronounce it stone or ston son of william john hitchhitchcock and emma jane wailin uh he died 29th of april 1980 at the age of 80 in bel air los angeles um known as the master of suspense here's a nice picture of his family he had one daughter um and so the the profile here they actually should um excerpts from the the censuses just so you can sort of see his family and his uh as they progress over time you are 32 degrees from alford hitchcock yes yeah so if you guys for the new people who are in here today if you're wanting to know how we're saying your connections to these people go to your profile page on wiki tree and then click on categories which will get you down to the very bottom of your page really quickly go down to category scroll up and it'll show greg is 32 degrees from alford hitchcock that will show you all the people that are in our profiles of the week and you can see how you are related to all of these people so click on categories it'll drop you down and you can see greg is 32 degrees from alford hitchcock and which one's my closest is it carry grant uh anthony perkins oh mildred oh no it's carry grant no mildred mildred netwick okay so if i click on that it'll tell me so this is interesting so there's just so there's one marriage another marriage two marriages right fun neat okay i have to say yo mama because joe mama's not here mama's not here oh without fun to show you guys too oh no okay um anyways he's got a star of course on the hollywood uh so he did leave um he left england and then moved to the states and then he actually became an american citizen um and did lots of film uh i like this quote i'm questioning the greatest filmmaker to emerge from these islands talking about england um uh hitchcock did more than any director to shape modern cinema which would be utterly different without him his flair was for the narrative cruelly cruelly withholding crucial information from his characters and from us and engaging the emotions of the audience like no one else i like that cruelly withholding crucial information so then uh so this uh roscoe roscoe leigh brown born second of may 2022 in woodbury glau sister um new jersey died 11th april 2007 at the age of 84 what did he do what's that what did what was he what did he do so he's most famous probably for being in soap and uh also he also played a professor on the cosby show but he was in uh hitchcock film called topaz oh see i was trying to place him in a hitchcock film and i couldn't no i don't i haven't seen topaz that's um i've seen many of the ones that are featured in in this weeks but um i haven't seen every hitchcock film and topaz is one of the ones i have not seen yet but but his face is familiar so he's done a bunch of stuff but soap and um the cosby show where the ones that are most are probably more more pot ones that you recognize him from so along with being an actor he was also a world-class track athlete he won a 51 world championship for 800-yard run very cool moving on jean de Beauvoir de avion fontaine or what she's more commonly known as just jean jean fontaine um who is a sister of olivia de habland the two um and apparently the two sisters um had a rivalry which was well documented in the media at the height of her career she uh great you have 10 minutes left i know so she married lots she married a number of people um but her connection to uh and it goes through all of the people she married but her connection to um hitchcock was where was he yes she starred in a uh movie called rebecca which is another one i haven't seen i don't think have you seen rebecca i have i haven't seen topaz no okay and then she started iven ho and voiced to the bottom of the sea but she she won um an academy award for best actress in rebecca and she and her sister according to this um are so far the only two siblings that one have both won academy awards at least at the time this profile was created that's true i can't think of any other can you think of any other two siblings that have both won academy awards i don't um uh you think there will be plain and what's her brother's name married uh yeah and what's his name the one that the song your survey was written for oh oh what's his name i don't know his name ah so if he was being he'd be upset that we didn't know his name okay anyway moving on because i only have a few minutes left uh archibald alec uh leech uh also known as carry grant i didn't know did you know that was his his birth name yes i did he did know that was he is no it was the other guy not donald's other one thank you though um warren baity oh warren baity warren baity ah there we go okay carry grant was born archable alec leech in 1904 and orfield bristol england son of alias leech and else lc marie kingdom is one of my favorite favorite actors of all time this guy this guy i have every movie he's ever made carry grant arsenic and old lace oh one of the best one that's hard to find is yes the bishops wife to christmas movie watch that one okay interesting good um but he had a really difficult um growing up his mother suffered from depression his father was a flanderer abandoned the family young for another woman she was committed to a psychiatric hospital archie was only 10 so he ran away from home at 13 and then at 16 he left england uh aboard a liner the olympic and already was an actor so um he had a difficult beginning but obviously became a popular gifted actor greatest male star of all time um and so he was in notorious um and he was also uh was he not he was in north by northwest wasn't he yes yeah that's i remember that one yeah if somebody shows that talks about itch cock that running down the road with a plane chasing him is like one of the most famous scenes of itch cock movie it's iconic yeah that and the vertigo staircase yes yes yeah what i didn't know about um carry grant uh was that he was one of the greatest nazi hunters from hollywood so not only a spy in the movie but he was also sort of he he famously uh he outed legend errol flinn as a nazi sympathizer and he investigated the former german husband of actress barbara hutton who apparently later married after that and he donated he donated his salaries throughout the war to the british war relief in the red cross because he was british well he was british yeah it was that's kind of cool um i love this one edith claire posner who married charles frederick head so um edith head um was born 1879 in san bernadino california and raised in california daughter of carl maximillion posner and anelizabeth larie spare um received a b.a. in french um she went on to become a costume designer and she was she was notable for designing dorthy lemours trademark sarong dress and then became a household name after her academy awards created a new category for a costume designer you can see there from 1951 the costumes that she designed for victor mature and heady lemar can we have a time out for just a second sure can about costumes yes again we only have one photo of the week and i'm gonna show it real quick and then i'm okay for the help real quick here here is the one photo of the week okay oh that's so great why hasn't anybody else posted a photo of the week no no idea but here's the one you all want to see you ready okay yes who this is is that sarah that's sarah all right oh that's great okay go ahead sorry that's excellent um so sarah is our other host who abandons us because she has to work she has to work on saturdays during the christmas season from that craziness we haven't even had us thanksgiving yet i know i know uh anyways the thing that i like so edith had a very famous she did she also did design for um out some alfred hitchcock movies and does it say here which one oh she yeah because she partnered with alfred hitchcock and designed for him also went on design the u.s coast card um woman's uniform but the the thing i love is that she look at her picture here okay that's that's oh i'm not sure much really yeah i got you okay you see okay so there's there's edith head yep now if you've watched the movie the Incredibles yep then looking at this you will recognize that the character who was the costume designer for the incredible supers family was edna mode who was a caricature of edith head and is is linda hunt a caricature of her as well oh maybe yeah from um she was on ncis la was it she was on one of the oh you know i know you mean that actress yes in a movie uh played a man in a movie about a photographer yin or nguyen and vietnam amazing actress but i always compare the two when i think of them yes you're right they do look similar yeah but anyways that's great she so uh that was a nice homage to her i thought very cool edna mode the real edna mode is edith head uh moving on we have three minutes to get through oh so tippy hedrin um who was one of the beloved actresses that uh alphage caught like to work with she was famous for her time in uh in the movie the birds right um and she is still alive um hence her profile is pretty spare spare and she's the mother of melanie griffith what's that she's the mother of melanie griffith melanie griffith yes i didn't realize that until i just read that uh when i was doing some prep so that's people are posting some some calendar events i will get to those as soon as we can get drag to shut up man okay max herman max herman is a famous conductor um and composer and his connection to hitchcock was he uh composed the score for psycho so you think of the shower scene and the violins car i think about that every time i have to close a shower curtain i don't have shower curtains anymore yeah so he this is a really cool very interesting profile that i'm not going to have time to read um um but anyways that was his uh his claim to fame the most famous connection to hitchcock was that uh janet lee of course was in the shower um in cycle and um so she received in a golden globe west supporting actress um and that was her she was there and she she lived to be 77 and she is the mother of jamie lee curtis so all these all these connect family connections hitchcock yeah something in the air yeah millard natwick who is my closest connection um gifted award-winning actress who appeared on stage um did lots of things i love this so this is a picture of a movie when she was in 55 but look who her co-star is do you recognize that lady angela landsbury angela landsbury young angela landsbury who also lost too soon yeah and she is the subject of an upcoming wik-tree challenge right yes we'll find out shortly which you'll find out shortly yes um uh so and uh so mildred's connection with the hitchcock was where's she the trouble with harry the trouble with harry i liked that one yeah i don't think i want to see i've got to watch that one i haven't seen that one then we have anthony perkins of course was uh norman bates and uh from 1932 to 1992 one of my clothes i have three that are the same level and anthony perkins is one of them really okay cool and then the final one is james maitland steward also known as jimmy steward everyone's favorite uh beloved one of the most beloved actors of course mr smith goes to congress um he was in his vertigo and rear view mirror right or rear mirror yeah rear view mirror yeah so he's done are you done already i'm done that's it wow that's the worldwide tour i could spend longer but i'm not going to okay so we did have some people trying to pop in and we'll do this real quickly for everybody let me show my back up again we've got some things coming up roger federer's wiki tree challenge highlights you can go to our gdg feed by clicking on your my wiki tree drop down going down to gdg feed and then click on questions and you'll see the pinned questions at the top for the wiki tree challenge highlights for federer uh aowans asking why why do you love wiki tree i imagine she's trying to find out some information for upcoming events uh the wiki tree challenge 21 angela landsbury coming up if you want to register to work on that the hack tober fest we core uh jamie nelson posted that but we all know show us your shirt again go ahead show us your shirt there you go all right so think about that and also um mendy said let's see betty co this is this and then she corrected herself and said no it's actually zoom basics on the third and the sixth and then mendy popped in and said or me at noon for the wiki tree challenge today are we a busy bunch yes unless we just keep on talking Greg yeah that's right then we could just keep everything going can you run to stream your broadcast same time what's that i said can you oh can we oh that's a good question probably not i'm betting yeah no yeah but i can't stay on because um my god my granddaughter is being baptized this afternoon so i have to take off shortly yes and i have to leave because my favorite healthy food restaurant in the world is closing its doors forever and i have to go down i might just go down buy order a couple of ciders and just stay until they close and cry that's pretty sad so hey everybody have a great week there's lots of stuff coming up that we didn't even mention you've got wiki tree day coming up the weekend of november the fourth and fifth the wiki day tree symposium we were talking about this stuff already but we didn't give you the date so it's the fourth and the fifth november which is a week away this yeah yeah we won't be here at ten but greg and i both well we'll be somewhere at ten we'll be on air at ten o'clock for the wiki tree uh day stuff that's right first off very first thing in the morning i'm going to be interviewing chris witton ooh excellent nine o'clock there is a panel discussion uh with people uh rob warth and the future of uh future genealogy of genealogy and then i am going to be presenting on dna and the wiki tree greg's going to be doing something over the technology panel yes and the half there's stuff going on all day long at four o'clock in the afternoon at four o'clock in the afternoon on saturday i'm doing um an appetizing tour is the name of my presentation i'm taking a tour through my apps and at the end i'm going to unveil a new app which i will have not shown anyone else so come and see the brand new app app slash game that i haven't even shared that with me yet i know i haven't usually share stuff with me all right you guys have a great uh wiki tree week and we'll see you next weekend for all of the fun of the wiki tree uh weekend so bye everybody bye