 So I picked this film because I love this film. This was actually the first Malayalam film that I had ever seen that introduced me to Malayalam. So now we've seen about 30, I would say, Malayalam films. But everything about this film, I absolutely adore. From just the slow pace of it to the craziness that happens. It has one of my favorite actors ever in it, which is Fahad Faseel, who plays Shammi. There's also another one, Subin, who plays the older brother. I can't remember his name right now. Yeah, yeah, as well. And it's just started my love for Malayalam cinema and these actors as well. So anytime I can get people to watch one of my favorite films, I want to get their opinions on it. So whoever wants to start it off, you can go right ahead. I actually really enjoyed, enjoyed this a lot. It took me a little bit to, I was saying to Corbin before the chat where I texted him that it's a different like emotional cadence that I'm used to. So I definitely had to sort of get into the groove of the film and the rhythm of the film. And that took a little while. But once I did, I really found a lot to enjoy. I thought it was a pretty beautiful film, just visually. And some of the performances I really enjoyed, particularly was it Sanji? Sanji, Subin. The older brother, I really enjoyed his performance and his character's arc to me was sort of the most powerful one. The, the, I like the sort of idea of this like cross generational family drama epic kind of thing. With like a romantic backdrop. But for me that was sort of, he was the through line that kind of carried me through. I liked the Bobby baby romance as well, but that sort of rang a little sort of more similarly to, you know, your classic like American romcom cinema so it was like easy for me to latch on to that. And emotionally I found Sanji to be sort of the center point of the film for me. Like, there's a lot that happens over the course of, you know, two hours and 14 minutes as Corbin was so kind of remind me when I said two and a half hours. So it's kind of like hard to, it's, it's unlike something I've ever experienced where there's like not a real time jump, but then you're going through like the complete emotional sort of spectrum with like five different people. And then like the, and turning into like a, I don't know, like a, like a psycho thriller was a turn of events I did not expect. But I mean, honestly, I was pretty riveted all the way through I was on board. I need more time to sort of like process my thoughts on a deeper level but for me, yeah. Saji was sort of to stand out his character and their arc were the ones that I sort of keyed into the most. But I liked, I liked Bobby, I'm not familiar with the actor's name but the actor that played Bobby I liked his performance quite a bit as well. But yeah, that's my general thoughts anyway. I'm sure more will pop up as we go on. Who's up next? Is TJ frozen again? It looks like they are. Oh no, they're not. Okay, cool. Yeah. Just really good at staying still. His name was Shane Negum, by the way. Okay, I can play Bobby. Doug, what do you think? I thought it was terrific. A lot of song breaks, which I enjoyed. If you think this has a lot of song breaks, wait till I get to some other Bollywood films. You're gonna lose your mind. I feel like there was like six in this movie. How many more can there be? I'm talking like six to ten actual song and dance breaks in certain films. Yeah, like RRR, like full on like dance break. Like this didn't have that. This had like very like narrative songs that were like pushing the story, which I thought was like a nice way to like continue the story to almost like give you a little reprieve from movie watching and almost just like you can listen to a song that's going to tell you the same story. I thought it was interesting that there was one in English. One thing that really stood out to me that I really remember was, I don't know how prevalent it is in Indian cinema culturally to show someone meeting with like what's like a grief counselor or like a therapist of some sort. But I thought that was like really powerful and really wonderful. I thought that that was, for me, that was like the moment in the movie where like I started crying. I thought the acting was really beautiful. I thought it was really powerful. I thought he was exquisite performance in that, you know, throughout the movie, but especially in particular in that moment. So like falling hysterics in the pink shirt guy, which I get to cut back to that but before everything before that I thought was like really, really beautiful. I see why he's one of your favorite actors. I love the like the total suspense mustache man thriller section of the film I thought it was like great little just like, you know, rabbit out of the hat like you knew it was coming but I don't know maybe because I'm not used to watch I think it's nice to like culturally I'm not used to Indian cinema this is my second film from from from India. I'm not used to the tropes I'm not used to the pacing I'm not used to anything really I'm still learning. So to me it's like, kind of always waiting on the edge of my seat like when he goes to the corner of the room Is he gonna like turn around with like a knife and like start stabbing everyone like what's going on like I had no idea what to expect I kept thinking like absolute worst case scenario is triple R like they're slaughtering children streets. So I'm like, is everyone going to die in this movie like what's going to happen here. But yeah I thought it was I thoroughly enjoyed it I thought that the performances are great I thought the relationship really strong I love the like the the you know family story like this humble family of fishermen that like, they don't have a father how shameful that is for the older brother feels in so many ways that like he is the father, especially age wise look wise and it's all obviously built into the film and like why they cast it the way they did. And it was written the way it was but like, I thought it was great if it was one of those like a lot of really powerful moments to see when they go talk to the mom who's chosen the gospel path and like ask the mom if she'll come back. And the little their youngest brother is like what mom is for a few days and she's like take his hand and she's like I'll pray for all of you. You see the ache in all of their eyes. And then like this sweet little bottle in their head in the head it's just like you can see like they're just trying so hard to just like, maintain and just like keep pushing and it's really beautiful and really touching I thought the I thought this movie I mean like you can like your class my first Indian films are like this is like a total 180 from that. And I thought it was like really a joy to watch I thought it was great. Is the question for you Corbin. Yeah, is this style like stylistically sort of of a piece of like mainstream. I'm going to I'm going to murder the pronunciation. You said Malia Malia Malia Malia. So the Malia Mahallam. So the Malia Mahallam industry is south and it's from the state of Kerala which is what you saw in this film so the beautiful ton of rivers everywhere it's very tropical it's beautiful, it's called God's own country that's kind of the name for it. Um, but Malayalam cinema kind of does its own thing when the rest of the country and the other industries do like, like RRR was the Tolugu film, and so Tolugu is known for big, big action films and stuff like that. Even though obviously every industry does everything, Bollywood obviously didn't known for Bollywood, big Bollywood films and all that kind of stuff. Malayalam has kind of taken the reins of taking just story driven and acting driven stories. And there's not really a trope in this. The thing that is really beautiful about this film is the main through line of this film is basically masculinity and toxic masculinity. And it takes that on head on on through every single male character in this and even some of the female characters that perpetuate the, the, the, the patriarchy essentially. And so what you what you see in this film, like the first time you meet Shami, which is the crazy one, right? He, he, he, um, you see him in a mirror, he has a massive mustache was the symbol of masculinity in a lot of parts of India and has been for a long time. So he's a massive mustache, fine tuning it. And then when you see him, he goes on to the mirror and he scrapes off a bindi, which is what females wear on their head. And so yeah, it basically foreshadows the entire film of he, he's, he wants to be in charge. He wants to be everybody to pay attention to him. He thinks he's the main character of this film, but not in a good way. Like we talk about it here. Like he calls himself a hero at the end screaming. Yeah. So Shami's the hero, which is for Indian cinema, your big action stars, they're called the heroes, even if it's not like a, like a superhero film. They're called the heroes. And so that he, he's always wanted to take on the bad guys, which is why you see this ridiculous smile on his face at the end. He's having a blast. And this is his entire life for this moment to come. And then obviously throughout the all the other characters as well of obviously Bobby and his pride in thinking that, you know, he's the man of the house. Sorry, the elder brother, I always forget his name. He's the one who's the sub in that character. He's now having to take the reins because he's the eldest of the family and eldest is supposed to kind of take the reins of the family on and he's kind of just not doing that at all. And then it also takes on the element through the, the female perspective, the one of his wife kind of enabling him and just because she's scared of this man and the his mother-in-law as well, who often the those matriarchals of the family perpetuate the patriarch system. In the name of just, you know, what what others will think. And so that's one of my favorite parts about this film is just how it takes on masculinity, which is a big touchy subject in India because there's there's a lot of toxic masculinity going on with with some men and India and because they've idolized these certain heroes. And so they, you know, think a certain way. And so that's, that's, that's why, but yeah, there's no trope specifically, which makes that scene with the therapist all the more sweet. And then that is a big reverse the like off like the A shot to the B shot of that of like, then cutting back to Bobby and his, his soon to be bride and they're like fishing net and then like he starts to cry. And it's really sweet and endearing like the cutback between those two is really nice. Yeah. Um, so, you look pretty to you. Um, the three oldest brothers have all the same dad. Right. And then everyone but Bonnie has the same mom and then the youngest and Bonnie have completely different parents altogether. It's just too separate I think Saudi the eldest is the only one that had the different mom, mom and then when I was saying that even though the youngest and Bonnie have different parents they have a really strong bond wasn't he saying that. That was mentioned that definitely was mentioned but I believe that Saudi had the one dad. Did they share a dad or mom I just know that once the two oldest got together then the two after that Frankie and not sure. I thought in the very beginning that this was going to be like a Indian Gundit like Beckham. The soccer intro. I thought he was like at soccer Academy or something and then yeah, one of the first things that happens when he goes home is that like him and all his friends play soccer together and I almost did think I was watching the wrong movie because of how I started for some reason. Yeah, I thought that like the guy with the mustache was going to be like the guy that's like you can't play soccer in this town and they were going to be like no play soccer forever. It's like loose but for soccer. Exactly. I love this movie a lot. I love how they pretty much established the relationship of all the brothers from the get go. I saw my brother and I with Frankie and the forgot his name though the one that was off with the dancers and was mute. Bonnie. Bonnie yeah I saw my younger brother and I in that relationship a lot because I saw it like with me like going away from LA and then coming back and I was still having like a great relationship so I feel like every dynamic was done really well like there was no like copycats or anything. I have my notes as always and I have shami looks like Indian Elijah would with a mustache. And I just, I just couldn't unsee that and no disrespect to him at all because but I saw that I love the comedy I laughed a lot more than I thought like there was this line that Bobby shared when when baby was staring at him which he was giving the tour. And he said she's falling for me and clearly obviously he's falling for her too but just the delivery in that line was hilarious. And every time shami was on screen I was pretty much tense I didn't know what he was going to pop or explode I just did not trust him at all. It just the acting was done really really well and just how slowly he would react. You would never expect how do you react and then the smile would pop from time to time and I'm just like I'm scared. I'm terrified but the whole exchange well when they're doing the dishes and he pops his head and wanting to know what they were talking about. He's crying and he's crying. Yeah that was the funny part. It was hilarious and scary and I would just like can they cut to another scene because he's not going to stop. I was going to mention that scene it was so funny how long that was going on. You can tell me. You can tell me and she's like it's private. I've found that legitimately frightening. Like if you have a different soundtrack under that scene it's like so fucking menacing. And they did a good job holding back and letting him do the acting. It wasn't until like the very end where you then you heard the tense music. There was actually there was music behind a lot of it like at the barbershop scene and they had kind of lower tense music behind earlier scenes. So you can kind of built but obviously nothing like the end. Barbershop scene was really really good too and I will see I was like terrified there as well with the just how slowly it's going to be. I thought he was going to like do something like give him a bad haircut or something but. I guess I didn't like I kind of had a hard time buying him as like an existential threat. I like I don't know until you saw how you could throw hands right. Well yeah I'm like there's these three dudes are like burly like work in the river and then this guy is like a barber and like they would just they would wreck him in a second. It's all these combos. It's more about the the class issue class issue. Yeah, because obviously where they live and for whatever reason fishing is considered low like Bobby said beneath him he thought it was almost beneath him. To do and so I think it was that that kind of fed into that. But yeah he's not like he's not like he's not like. I was like yeah it's like rock or anything. I was going to say an Indian actor but you guys wouldn't know. Another scene that stood out for me aside from the therapist scene was the one where. Where Shami is taking the seat at the head of the table and it does that shot pulling away and he just has his slow smile of course and like pretty much like he's one. You know just how like cleverly he just makes that happen and just the shot of that was pretty much perfect on my part just you just like done really really well. It took me a minute to realize like that that's what was happening there. What is his music like what is this like breakfast scene so serious for and then like took me a second to realize the head of the table. What was going on. This was actually this director's debut film. I couldn't tell. This is a directorial debut. Wow. I gathered that from some letter box reviews. I was like reading after I finished it or whatever. That's pretty crazy. Yeah that's super impressive. Wow. It actually happens more than you'd think in Indian cinema. Just like random like people that don't have any credits can just direct a film with stars in it. Home run. It happens like often and I don't know why it can't happen here like that. Yeah I do have a question. What did what did I mean that's probably obvious answer but what did sobby gift. Bobby at the end when him and baby were in the bed like he gave him a little condom. It was a condom. Okay. I was like, I just couldn't put two and two together I was like okay that's what it is. That actually reminds me. Tell them when he throws the thing on the ground. Oh yeah. The part where the oldest brother says to the two brothers the one with the American girl and then the one with baby and he says like, you know, you guys should move out. You have these women that you're with and then Bonnie is like, oh yeah okay and then you're like pull something off of a shirt or something. It's a cube. Yeah he essentially grabbed something out of his pants and says go fuck yourself essentially or something. I didn't know what he gave him because I was yeah so I was like. I didn't I don't know if it was a pub specifically I thought he was just like go fuck yourself like here's my dick or whatever. I don't know what it was specifically. Did you see him in it. I thought he like plucked a cube from under his pants and was like yeah here you go buddy like. It's very funny. So right classic Bonnie move. What do you think sorry. I really like what and it started us off with by saying that it was an emotional cadence that was unfamiliar to me because that's exactly how I felt. What do you mean by that by the way. I just think that the tone wasn't something that I was that I'm completely accustomed to because I was really unfamiliar going in and I think maybe the same way. And I think in addition to there were just a lot of them are not a lot but there were just a few things that like because there's obviously obviously cultural differences like it took me a second to get acclimated to not being steeped in US traditions and customs which is obviously I always enjoy it and appreciate it but it always takes me a second to like figure out what's going on with that. But yeah also like Emily and will I was like wait did I click on the right thing I was like so confused starting with the boys playing soccer and like being like it's a little confusing. But it was I was pleasantly surprised by it I mean I did think that it may like OK I like romance stuff like I'm pretty corny about it which is why I don't like letting myself watch it because I like to not feel those things personally but some of I think there was like just a little bit of it and I can't really quantify it anymore so maybe I'm just wrong but I was like is this corny or should I just let myself enjoy it right now because it's sweet and it's cute. Yeah probably a little bit of both but like nothing wrong with that. I also thought that just the like when I will the plate the setting the location the place there in that part of India is beautiful. Holy crap it's gorgeous over there. But yeah I thought I thought the story was really cool I love like a family a family story a family Odyssey. I thought that dynamics between the different brothers they were all performed well and they made a lot of sense to me. And show me of course scene stealer and I did also read that I think his production company helped produce the movie which is cool that he helped to get the whole thing made. I did think at the end in having everybody held hostage was like a little out of left field. But the further I get away from it the more I can kind of I guess justify it because he really did seem like he was like one little thing away from blowing up especially the corner thing. It was scary but it was also really funny. Standing in that corner it was a total Blair witch moment but also like if anybody I knew did it I'd be like what the hell are you doing. And then when they come back out when they come back out he's like. Show me show me was basically making me like apple like. Same. Good really really good. I thought that kind of that kind of leaves into my feeling about the movie in general is that I enjoyed the movie. I'm not quite sure if I enjoyed it for the purposes intended by those who made the film that's not something I can know from that. But it's just something that I feel probably I also think a lot of it unfortunately was lost in translation. There would be like scenes that like the most to me the probably one of the most genuine scenes in the movie one of the most important scenes in the movie is when Saaji is talking to his friend who like five minutes later dies I don't know that PJ. That was like it felt like a really important scene. But the subtitles were fucking all over the place. Yeah the subtitles were not it wasn't it was not the movie spot whoever not at all. Yeah whoever did the translations kind of fumbled it a little bit but I know it's really hard to do so I can't be mad. Especially when you're like talking about ideas that are sort of it's it's like a little more ethereal and cultural as opposed to just like simply translating the words. It was like it was a lot of it was translated especially in the more like like images that like the more serious conversations that were like not just like I'm very going to say oh I'm going to I'm going to La Biblioteca. Yeah. Like a lot of those conversations I think they didn't like translated it like work forward very early. So like a lot of it was just kind of like like it's like hard when you're in your mind you're like nobody talks like that. So it's like you have to kind of like rework it in your mind and read it and then like read it again in like, you know, like an actual cadence that someone. Not only not only does that affect you in that moment when you're actually reading it, but because it's funny it's inherently funny to read like, you know, like what is obviously not happening read that it like disrupts. I think the emotional lens through which I'm watching the movie. Especially because they translate song lyrics to and like, never, ever, ever do song lyrics translate well. No. They rhyme in their language or whatever. It happened in perfect. It happened in perfect. But in like this movie for example like they play a song over like a sad or sweet moment but then they would translate the song up to the screen so you're just like oh that's actually so funny that like. I think just as a as a rule probably unless it's a musical. It probably the song doesn't need to be translated I don't think actually often in Indian cinema they do because they're, they're usually and I do most of the time subs unfortunately are pretty bad, which is unfortunate but oftentimes if there's music or a song. It has to do with something or or a feeling that they're trying to get across to you in the lyrics as well. Just because his songs are so important to Indians and films. I could see, I could see what you're the two of you are saying Emily and will but I kind of, I kind of disagree I thought that the the translation like, maybe I wasn't looking to sort of digest it literally I guess. Yes, I kind of, I didn't know that about Indian cinema Corbin but it makes sense, like I kind of keyed into it through the process of watching it happen because I was like, oh they're very clearly like it's not like American cinema where there's like a needle drop, necessarily. And like, if you pick a needle drop that's too on the nose. It's like oh that's on the nose and I was like, okay no this is part of the storytelling. Like the format, I guess, as opposed to but I understand why it would be funny to like, see what is essentially sort of miss like grammatically incorrect English all of its screen unfortunately it happens more than I'd like the bad translations in Indian cinema, and it's hard to especially a language that's so fast and deeply meaningful. There's a lot of stuff that we will never be able to understand because the way they're saying it in the language, they can't translate it in English. It just can't maybe it's because I grew up watching. Maybe it's because I grew up watching bad subs of like Dragon Ball C in Japanese anime. It's like all the dialogue is just fucking nonsense or I was like, all right, yeah. I'll go with this. Yeah. There were times in the movie where it felt like the character was going like, and then it would say something in the subtitle and I was like, did it say anything? They speak so fast. It feels very Jewish now. TJ, TJ, what do you think man? Hold on, I'm not done. Oh, sorry. So, I think, I think when reflecting on this movie and like, I think that it actually works better for me almost. When I take out a lot of the minutiae, what I would call minutiae for me and and like think of it almost as a rom com. Except that, and this may be a cultural thing and so I wanted to ask you Corbin because I was talking about it with Saraya that like the relationship, especially in the beginning between baby and Bobby, which is great that the two of them are together because I like saying those names next to each other. Like, he is kind of such a fucking douche or to her. And then she's like really desperate to get with him still. And that, and that kind of left me wondering what was, it doesn't necessarily have to be communicating anything but if there is something that's supposed to be felt in that moment like we as an audience are we supposed to be empathizing with him that like he's done something wrong. No, and it is a little bit is a little cultural there. But any I guess it's not strictly Indian obviously the American cinema has had, you know, people that shouldn't be with this guy because he's a douche but they're with them anyway. But yeah, essentially the ride you took with Bobby was essentially, he was a slacker ass who thought, you know, he was the man so he should be doing everything. And that's basically his arc and so no at those times when he was being an ass and was being misogynistic and all that kind of stuff you were supposed to be thinking that about him. 100%. What he was supposed to read is like very, very insecure. Yeah, like, he thinks that he's not good enough for her so he kind of like takes it out on her a little bit like why don't you go you know like, yeah he's very he's very unhappy with his situation his house. He thinks his family comes from fishers which once again he thinks is like beneath him. And sorry, I'm, I'm so, I'm sorry. Keep going. Keep going. I really like when he's at work and he's like, I hate this job and then the guy's like, just listen to your music. That was a great moment. This is great and then his ear head, his ear but falls on, he's like, nah, fuck this. I related to that so hard for some reason. That's how I quit all my jobs in the past. It just like falls out and you realize the situation you're in and this place fucking sucks. Yeah, I gotta start over this track. Come on. I just really liked how he was like, okay, yeah, I could I can do this like I'll get into it and then as soon as his ear but falls out he's like, nah. I think that's kind of the type like that's kind of the type of thing I was. I was wondering about is like, is that supposed to be a Joe. Is that the like earbud falling out and then being like. Oh yeah, that whole sequence was supposed to be kind of funny. Yeah, for sure. Also, is this a real thing that like everyone has their little Bluetooth speaker that they carry around with them all the time? I couldn't tell if it was a water bottle or a product placement. It might be, it might be product placement and it might be stuff like that. At one point when the American girl comes to stay with them. First of all, this was really funny when she asks for a pillow case. Yeah. She's like, you know, like a pillow cover and then like when she does this and says pillow cover and then the young kids like, oh, like he's like, I know. That reminds me. And then she goes, sorry. And then she goes and then I'll go ahead. And then she goes. It's just like really because I was like at first I thought, is he catches a fish in the beginning and then he, the first time I see anyone carrying the speaker around is like right after it catches a fish. And he brings it to the bar and I was like, is he going to give like, did he put the fish in there is he going to like give him that fish. And then I realized it was a speaker and then I was like, what is this thing with the speaker and then the American girl goes. Do you have a Bluetooth? I can connect my phone and we can listen to music. And I was like, what is the deal with Bluetooth speakers? Because like whoever has said like, hey, you guys have a Bluetooth. That was a very specific request. I forgot my headphones. Can I connect to the Bluetooth so we can all listen to music? Yeah, they don't have like TVs. They don't have the people do have TVs, but they didn't specifically. They didn't specifically have a TV or sound bar and iPhones are unattainable almost in India. They are so expensive in India. Like they are like double the price in India that they are here. So almost everybody has an Android in India. So hold on. Did my audio just cut out? No. Okay. Anyways, yeah. So yeah, I don't think it's like a cultural thing. I just think he this guy had the speaker than he liked it a lot. It was just really funny, like the heavy prevalence of Bluetooth. Yeah. My brain immediately was like this has to be product placement because they always like gave the speaker its own almost hero shot in all the scenes that it was to show the lights changing and stuff to do. But yeah, it was a little. And then the last thing and then and then TJ. Unless I changed my mind and want to say another thing. I might also say a few. If anyone else who wants to speak before TJ, please. Nice love of God speak up. Something I really, really loved, and it, it translated more than any other time, especially when they were on the water, because there were lots of different color boats and like the piping and things on boats and then the trees, just like the colors and the saturation of the colors in this movie was probably my favorite aspect of it. It reminded a lot of the director Vim vendors. And, and, yeah, that it was really more in the second half of the movie I think that that I really noticed it but yeah that I wanted to mention because I really appreciated that a lot. That's the intro, like, the actual credits part. Oh, I wanted to say to that I was bum that I wasn't thanked in the opening credits because I think that most people in the world were thanked at scene. So I was bum that my name wasn't said. They caught you on the back end. If you stuck around, it was like a post credits thing. TJ, TJ, what do you think man? Hi. Hi. So, obviously finish it right before song. I'm really still trying to figure out exactly how I felt about it in the same way that I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway, so I'll just start going through it. But the first things I noticed that I really liked was that the cinematography in this movie, I thought was really great their choices of shots really good. And the songs are really pretty, especially that first song that first song break that song. I really enjoyed how they tried to show the differences between the two older brothers by the way they drink whiskey. Back to Mercedes asked me, like, who drinks a drink like that and I'm like I've some people water their whiskey down with water, because they can't handle the bite of it or whatever. So it is a thing I swear it's a thing. And I thought that was a good way to show that. The acting was super solid. I didn't feel like anyone. I did feel like in some ways there was like a different that what, sorry, what's the antagonist's name again. Show me. Show me. It was like almost in a different movie sometimes. I feel like he's being a little more campy and like really over the top, which was like fun and funny, but everyone was kind of playing a little more grounded. So I thought they're they're kind of into different movies sometimes. I did it did take me a while to like, Holy, no, what was happening. Just because like, it started off with the kid and then the kid kind of disappeared and I'm like I thought that kid was like in the main character they are doing take a part in the story and he's kind of just gone. I was trying to figure out like what the main tension was or I'm like, okay, maybe they're just showing like a love story but I don't think the first like sign of love happens into like the montage between Bobby and baby right and that happens like past 30 minutes into the movie I think. So it's just a lot of like me trying to the story structures is super not like American cinema, I think maybe it's something that's actually different. It is for me to grasp on to because I'm just like, I'm trying to find out like where I'm following because I'm a little lost still. It's almost like it takes like we're in American cinema, it would take like at the 40 to 45 minute markers when stuff kind of like, Oh, here comes like the extra little twist. And I feel like it takes like, till the hour point in Indian cinema almost like it almost takes a little because their films are longer. Well, true, true, but I mean some of the longer films that would happen in American cinema even 4045 minute mark, but then I did really like the, like the feminist take on this movie till a point I have I have a something on that that kind of but I did appreciate the fact that was talking about like the toxic masculinity I did not catch the thing with him scraping. I didn't think any of you were near that I wish I caught that earlier. Oh, you knew what it was. Yeah, I didn't know. Oh, that's a lie. Oh, that's a lie. She asked me what it was. I answered. I have a ring. Called out. First of all, I did now and second of all, we watched it in that's true. We watched it in the bedroom and there's no ring camera in the bedroom. I would hope not in the guest bedroom. There's a reason I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. Well, good to know about the guest back to know ring camera in the bedroom. So I appreciate like that that kind of take on the film. And I like again, it does set things up like me really clearly like when he's in the mirror and he's like talking very vainly about himself. I'm like, okay, this guy obviously kind of is full of himself, but I'm not sure yet if it's going to be in more kind of like a comedic way, or like a more like serious this guy sucks way. And as soon as the whole like the ball got kicked into his yard the first time I'm like, all right, and I know he's just pretty terrible and he sucks. So that was all great. I especially I do appreciate it was funny like the character I related to the most was like the American girl and he starts yelling at her and she's like stop yelling at me. I'm like, why are you yelling at me you can chill and I'm like, I'm like go off. I'm like all my friends, they would be having the same reaction right now. I really appreciated that. So that made me happy. I do feel like it kind of got like, so then there's the end right with the whole thriller thing. It was a fun and unexpected thing. Yeah, right now. This tone is crazy. But and it was super symbolic with like the fishnet throwing over him I thought that was like a very symbolic gesture to title together. And I also appreciate like the talk about classism as well. So that being said, at the end, it still is like men saving woman from other men, which I guess you can kind of put a good light and like maybe it's part of men's responsibility to be good to fight back against the shit men. It's the best way you could sell it to me, but it's just like, again, the women. It kind of falls a little like on me a bit. They couldn't do much. They were tied up. I know, I know. I'm not talking about the situation. I'm talking about how it was. She definitely stood up for herself though. She did absolutely. Which literally put him in a corner. Right. I appreciate babies. I appreciate all of babies defiant remarks. He was cool. She's so great. But also I'm like, damn, he really like beat them like terribly like what it. What, what did this dude think was going to happen? Like, would the police have not investigated this or been like, like, T-shirt at his face. And then they run in the bathroom and turn it and lock it and he has the razor blade his hand and he's like, oh man. It's like, wait, that was your weapon. I'm done with this weapon. It was so good funny. I was like, oh, I remember him using this and he like changes mind. Yeah. So overall, like, again, it's hard to figure out how I feel because it's still me getting used to like, this is like the third Indian film that you've told me to watch Corbin, but technically I maybe the fourth or fifth I've seen. And I feel like the hardest. I have seen two before. So I don't remember which ones, but I'm all I'll think after this. Okay. But it's, it's just like the tone thing that I'm trying to like figure out. Because even then within the three Indian movies you show me as much as they're all have a different tone from American cinema. All those three movies have very different tones. So like, I think it's just like me getting used to it and trying to figure out like, is that I can't tell sometimes like I think Will said this, like if something's supposed to be funny or not. And that's when I'm still like learning. I'm like, it's I can't tell. If you're laughing, it's supposed to be funny. Well, because at the end I'm like this is a really serious moment. But like I can't help with this dramatic music. And he has the fish net over his head and they're like being pulled out. I'm like, obviously, I just isn't supposed to be funny. Like they're beaten. Like, you know what I mean? Like so I know this isn't funny, but the tone issues here. The part the scene had comedic humor to it. Okay. Well, I don't think actually laughing when they're like pulling woman out from under a bed like tied up and beaten. Oh, not that part. No. Well, that's what I'm saying. But it's tied in with that. You know what I mean? They're so close to each other. It felt very confused emotionally. And I also want to add in a few guys don't mind, at least from my perspective, if not yours, but I'm not muted right. But everyone keeps saying different from American cinema, but I actually find that Indian cinema. I've only seen from three different regions now, but in cinema seems to be different from all other countries that I've seen, not just America. So I just wanted to say that because I think that I could draw a lot of parallels between America, Japan, France, Korea, wherever that I can't necessarily with Telugu and Malayalam and where was Hindi Hindi that was the Hindi industry, Hollywood. Ugly was ugly. Okay. Yeah. Well, it also I mean it also has to do with them. Those are three films that just I really enjoyed. And so they're each industry. There are certain films that you can watch from those industry that feels like those certain industries once you get started to get to know each one of them. But they are all very different from each other. And also Indian cinema in general, it doesn't. And we had to learn this through the 300 plus films that we've seen is it doesn't follow the typical start climax ending. It sometimes there's no point at all to what you're watching, and that it's just it's part of the progression of the story. And that's it. It's it's it's they take their time, especially Malayalam. They're like this film, somebody is coined a phrase called Malayalam Malayali chill or something like that. So it's just a very laid back film for most apart of the film, obviously. If you're wrong, though, tell us in the comments. Yeah, they will. And a bunch of stuff that was wrong at all. But yeah, so you'll get those tonal differences. And when I when I saw it, because probably the third time I've seen this film, I was wondering, I was like, how much of the cultural stuff are you guys going to be able to get? Because by the time we this is the first Malayalam film we saw, but we were probably almost 100 films in by the time we had seen this film for Indian cinema. So we got the whole matriarchal patriarchal systems of families. Like, why is this brother-in-law have any say in this, in this girl's life. Why, like, why, why does he get to decide who she gets to marry? Why does the mom, why, why she the way she is the system, all, all that kind of stuff. And so like, by the time we got to it, we were obviously a little more up to date. And so I didn't know how you guys were going to react to something that is actually of the two you've seen, probably the most deeply cultural one that you've seen so far. I kind of felt like I picked up the broad strokes, at least, you know, like pretty quickly. Probably it's, it went into the film knowing, okay, there's probably going to be a lot that maybe won't click with me or won't hit me the way that it ended. I don't know what it's referencing or like how sort of this storytelling work compared to, you know, the cinema that I'm using. I can't hear him. He has Emmett, are you cutting out? Is Emmett coming, cutting out for everybody? Yeah, Emmett's cutting out. Okay, sorry Emmett. Am I still cutting out? No. What was the last thing you heard? Let me talk about Gizmo. Yeah, I think you're talking to Lauren at that point, for me at least. Oh, okay. Something about, you said something about like America being superior to all of it. No. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I feel like I don't even know anything else. No, I just, I kind of gathered the broad strokes. I sort of expected not to understand a certain percentage of maybe some of the subject matter or sort of the storytelling devices. But I guess the only thing that I didn't understand, at least initially, was sort of what I'd mentioned before, and it seems to be a reoccurring thing for Gizmo. Stop. Here is the, like, the tonal shifts I'm kind of like cool with. I was like, after a certain point I was like, okay, like I'm on the ride, like I'll go with whatever it's throwing at me. The thing that I had the biggest sort of like hurdle over was the speed at which it communicates emotional connections. And that the like montage, I understand the montage, like just as a device to communicate sort of time and experience in a short amount of like a short amount of real time. The, and they did use that, but it was like the intensity of emotion and like the expected, like the expected, the expectations of behavior between the people involved, whether it was like Bobby and baby, or some of the kids, or Shammy and his wife and baby or whatever. That I was like the biggest adjustment for me where I was like, okay, I, it's almost like they skipped like a what would be like a 30 minute segment in a film that I'm used to that's like developing the relationship. I sort of had to like the relationships between the brothers are super strong. The dynamic with show me and that family are set up pretty well, and then everything between them is like, yeah, we'll throw them on top like it's like that and you, you have to just kind of buy into whatever that dynamic might be. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but it just if I think there was a bit of like leapfrogging overstep, and that took me a minute to sort of adjust. Oh no. Interesting. What are you laughing at, Soraya? Doug sent a screenshot of the chat and I just look so upset. It was from like 15 minutes ago. I must have been from when someone, when Will was making the joke about it. It was long before that. Oh, no. I agree with you, Emma, though, I felt like a lot of that was like, while I enjoyed the song breaks and like the passage of time that they were showing I felt like it definitely like some of the jumps were like, oh, this is like, six months worth of relationship, emotional intensity, occurring over like a, you know, a 60 second song break. But you're getting like, okay. And like, I, you know, after a couple of them, like you kind of just, you expect it and you understand that like this is just what's going to happen. I think when I watch movies like this, I'm trying, I'm like, I'm suspending my criticism as much as possible because like, this is also foreign to me anyway, that like, I'm just trying to approach it the first time just to like, enjoy it and see what I can take of it that like, at least I can connect with on like some sort of level. But yeah, there's obviously stuff that like, you know, giant leaps the passage of time and emotional intensity and all of that that like feel like a little you could have just sliced off a little less of the relationship here and focused in a little more on like a smaller detail or a smaller amount of time instead of feeling the need to go so broad. And in that two hours and 14 minutes, thank you Corbin, we could have gotten like a little more like an intimate slice of life but then that's like, you know, like American French Korean cinema of that fame we're like Indian cinema I think it's like spectacle and it's big and like, even in this Mully Allen way that's like small trying to be like smaller more intimate film. I like that still within that they're still like sure the spectacle of it is still that like, hey, even if we're going to storytell in a way that small and character and story driven. We're still going to try to do a big like a big a big amount of time like a large amount of time within this small frame which I another thing that you're going to want to learn about Indian cinema and Indians in general, very emotional way in terms of how like, how they like to show it. Yeah, positive and negative wise. And so like these big emotions that we hear would normally think are like, oh, you're going kind of over the top there. It's just kind of normal. I mean that that takes that that does take some getting used to this one. That's one of the things that we talked about a lot at the beginning of the channel. So I am, I agree with both of you and in with Doug and and am it not that I'm not agreeing with you Corbin you just, you were saying facts not opinion. I agree with your facts. I agree that they're true. But the reason that I was kind of willing to let that go is because the framework that the relationship was set up in was kind of it made me feel like the fast development of relationship is something that's very common in India, because she was like, you was like, can I kiss you on the neck and she was like, we're not fucking married. So like that felt to me like, so this has to happen really fast and there's not there's not time for it to develop to develop in real life, let alone in the film, because of the, you know, cultural religious whatever, whatever you want to call it pressure that comes from that, or not even pressure just tradition. Yeah. Well, while we're on the subject can I bring something up slash ask something so obviously, oh what you can do one you can bring up where asked. Thank you. So, obviously, a lot of the movie was spent focusing on my dog just woke himself up sorry, Bobby and baby's relationship. But I have so many questions and there's probably not answers but just about Bonnie and the American tourist one could have used more Bonnie screen time because that man was silent but boy was he attractive. Moonwalk. Yeah, I was like, okay, need more of him on screen. I didn't have some drip movie that you watched recently Corbin Vikram I think is what it's called and. Okay, I don't know if you're ready for the Chrome, but I think a lot of people I mean a lot of people I know saw that one so I might watch it but it's fine. So the relationship between Bonnie and this American tourist one. I like, you know, I would like to see how these two people who have more than just a language barrier to overcome have find anything to discuss or talk about or get intimate about aside from physical stuff. And to I would like to know like is Bonnie, like, you know, is does he operate outside of the cultural norms or is he wired into the whole cultural norms of where he lives and, you know, does he like is he cool. It seems like he's cool with spending the night with this American tourist at her home stay place, which is frowned upon by basically everybody else. And she's obviously cool with it but like what transpired and like I'm just so curious as to like how all of this worked and if like, Like it has she's putting a lot of the horny details. I mean, obviously, but no, I mean, this woman this American tourist is putting so much trust into this man that she met in a foreign country, who she doesn't really have any means of verbal or probably written communication with because I don't think she speaks the language. And I don't think I think she does actually went to India like fucking looking for a store broke up. She was like with the same boyfriend since she was 16 and she was like, you know what, I'm going to go find someone. I'm not even going to say a word to him. I'm so. So I wondered this. Yeah. The, the youngest brother I think when she comes to stay at the house. Frankie. She's, she's like, Oh, are you going to get married. And she's like, no, no, we're dating and then he's like what and she's like boyfriend and girlfriend and I was like, is that for the Indian audience like to make that whole right. Because I was like, there's no chance in hell that this American woman that's like, literally just said two seconds ago like this is the place I'm going to go next there's no way that like she is actually like, we're boyfriend and girlfriend this is right. Maybe, well, maybe, but, but maybe it's not for the people watching maybe it's for, because she's like, even though he's probably a high school or she's like infantilizing him and she's like, Oh, well, I need to like, Oh, we're just boyfriend and that's why we can kiss. Yeah. I didn't know if it was that or it was more just like, because like. I took it as that, but I don't know. That's what I said that they don't want to be like, we're fucking what I said or what she's. Yeah, no, no, what you said. And then I guess just a question about that. So correct me if I'm wrong, but is it a bold choice that they chose a black woman to be the American tourist who is part of this relationship. I'm actually so glad they did because the one other white tourists that talked, he was annoying. Yeah, but I'm wondering like is the is the casting voice. Is that is that a big deal? No, no, not really. Because a lot of. I mean, it's foreigners don't often get a lot of roles in India, cinema outside of the angry British person. Right. The fact that there's a black person, there's, I mean, there's Sri Lanka often comes to India people from South Africa often come over. So it's not it's not that huge of a deal. Yeah, I guess I was a much better actor than any other foreign actor usually is an Indian cinema. That's good. So that which is good because that one other guy who talked to baby about the picture. He messed up his one line in the goddamn film. It's so infuriating what they do with white white actors. Yeah, I just want to clarify that. Like I mainly ask that just because as a person who like cubs from a different like cultural background like I'm, you know, I know that minorities and I mean not minorities with people across like people in other countries in the world are racist and people. I think people in America like to think that they're the most racist country, but that's not necessarily true. And like I can say with confidence that there's a lot of racism in Iran because there was a slave trade there of people from Africa and all that kind of stuff. And there are a lot of black Iranians now because of that. But also, you know, in America and all that kind of stuff. So like, I just don't want it to come off as me being like, whoa, like I want to be like, I know that there is racism in other parts of the world, aside from America towards black people. So I was just curious about like what the attitude was really not really with like black people. It's more with other Indians. Okay. Of other casts, different skin tones. Yeah. Hollywood has often had this thing called the fair and lovely cream, which lightens your skin. Priyanka Chopra has endorsed that before like a lot of like big right now. They now regret it and apologize, but they often did any of their careers or there's North Indians in places like Assam that look Chinese, but they're Indian. And so they often don't get told that they are Indian because they don't look Indian as well. And so there's, there's that stuff more than the other other race thing. Got it. Thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry to, I'm sorry to totally derail from the movie, but Douglas earlier mentioned something about this going up on YouTube and it reminded me where where is in relation to my box on your screen right now. Where is Corbin where is Douglas. He's on the bottom. Below me. No. To hear. He's at that angle for me. I don't know what's happening there. Like there's seven boxes right at the very bottom of the screen. For those of you watching because I know that a lot of you in the comments, thought that you really hot and you guys mentioned that a lot in the comments. If you want to follow him on Instagram is Instagram is you can call me Douglas. Oh my God. All one word with no underscore. Hey guys, I just got a call I have to take. The agent. It's a model agent. Everybody send your picture at here on the screen. So we're going to go follow you. There's actually a bunch of really talented people. Douglas down below is a wonderful actor and a hottie. TJ is a wonderful musician. Sariah is also a wonderful musician. Cassandra down here is a wonderful actor. Emmett is hot. And then will and Emily. They make delicious bagels. Not really. That's what I'm good at is writing. Right. Sorry. And you're so hot people forget that you're. You have talent. Most people. Not as you just coast on their looks. And your letter box. Emma. Emma is my favorite letter box that I account though I follow great reviews. Okay. Sure. My letter box is Ziggy star dust off, but it's Ziggy with one G. That's a really nice. And TJ black is not the person that you guys thought he was a YouTuber. He is another famous. That take it out of context is so ominous. TJ is not what they seem. You guys have read all the comments of the RRR. Probably won't read the comments for this one, but I read all those for sure. I wasn't going to say. I really like the look of Bobby's friend. Cool looking dude with the sunglasses. Oh yeah. I didn't disagree more. The shit out of Bobby's friend. Really? Yeah. Oh, also I, at one point I just, just for a second, I thought that the guy. Bobby's friend who I don't remember. It was like person. Yeah, person. I think was his name. He. His fiancee and then wife. I thought was. Shami's wife. Oh, for a second. And so I was like, I was like watching a totally different movie than was intended because I was. I thought the same. Oh wow. Jeez. You thought it was like an adultery drama, like a, like a. It was like murdered by Shami murdered by the stash. Anyways, there's the, the, they both actually have like a Subin who played the, the, the main guy. Yeah. Yeah. And so he has a film called Android 2.0 where they, it's takes place in a Malayalam village, but they, he hires a robot to help his old dad. Whoa. And so, so it's a really good film. He's, he's good at everything. Fafa, which is what you call Fahat Fasil, if you don't want to say his full name, the guy who played Shami. One of my favorite actors. I love him so much. He's, I think he's one of the best actors living currently. So who you saw there is not who he actually is. Shami, the crazy one. Oh yeah. I want to say something completely different. Yes. Yes. He was my favorite part of the movie. Yeah. He's, he's absolutely incredible. Any film you see of his is amazing. And he's always good in everything. And so I hope they're able to talk to him one day, but. I want to see him in something completely different from what he does in this movie. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Me too. I need Rex Corbin. I will, I will give you, it's hard because a lot of Malayalam films are deeply cultural. And so you'll, you might run into stuff, but there's another one that I can't pronounce for the life of me, but it's amazing. So I can't. The subtitles did help sometimes where it actually like gave us, it said the subtitle and then it said, like, that's a famous proverb, like after it. And I'm like, oh, let me know that. That was nice. Yeah. Yeah. Also, we were talking about that. Thanks for not listening to you. Oh, I'm sorry. I have a noodle and kill the volume to date with the gorgeous woman sitting next to me. So I might have to bow out early anyways. So thank you guys for, for watching. Please go follow all these lovely people. You can see all of their names right here. Go follow them on Instagram. Subscribe to their music and tick talks and TJs. And support all of them. Thank you guys so much.