 Next question is from Megan Mack. How do you and your partners handle fear and anxiety around topics you can't control that affect your children and their future? Oh man, this has really changed for me a lot. You battled this the most, I think, right? Well, what, personally, like my fear and anxieties? Yeah, but no, this is talking about, I guess, how you handle the fear and anxiety for your kids. That's the same thing. It's you're getting the anxiety because of what could possibly happen to your kids. Is that how am I reading that? Oh no, yeah, so I was interpreting it like, how to handle your kids' anxiety. No, I think this is like, for example, I think this is alluding to like COVID-19 and what's happening to them, like, how much fear and anxiety you guys have knowing that it's impacting their lives. Yeah, so that's, oh, that's rough, man. I'll tell you what, I don't care how tough you are. You start to picture your own child's challenges and stuff. That'll definitely mess you up. Well, number one is acknowledge it. You have to acknowledge that you have these fears around certain things. And then you should probably talk to somebody. I think if you don't, and what I mean by is it could be a partner, it could be a friend. If you don't, what tends to happen, at least what happens with me is I can, it'll mull around in my head and it becomes obsessive and I can think about something I can build upon it or you could stuff it in which case it comes out in different ways. So I'll talk about certain things with Jessica, for example, she's an excellent partner to talk about these types of things about. This is 100% a communication thing with your partner, period. And this is if you're human, this will happen to you. It's just the people that are self-aware about it and recognize it when it rears itself. Like we just, I mean, beginning of this episode, we talked about the self-awareness thing that I try and practice and this is no different. Like, here's mine. And this is very recent that we had something like this where Katrina and I might have shared this on the podcast, but it fits for this question, is I am, I'm so afraid, okay, or I get anxiety around not having enough adversity in my son's life. Because I know how much it served me to getting to where I am at and I now look back and I'm appreciative of all the adversity that I had growing up and think it was a very important role to developing a lot of characteristics about myself that I want my son to have. And my Katrina is completely opposite. She had a very successful childhood. She's very successful in life and they did it with a complete opposite approach. Lots of love, lots of support and comfort and therefore each other and she's been very successful for it. She's very independent too. And so we are, I'm challenged here there'll be times where she does something where I feel like, God, let him struggle a little bit. I know he's a baby and stuff like that, but it's like, it starts now, right? Doesn't it start now? I mean, at what age do you start letting them be challenged a little bit and she's so quick to rescue him? And then to her, I'm so quick to let him struggle on everything. And she's like, damn, he's a fucking baby. Pick him up and love him. Change your own diaper. Right, so this is an area that we don't see eye to eye. I have anxiety over it that my biggest fear is that he turns out to be a spoiled little kid because I gave him too much growing up and didn't show him enough adversity. And so it's communication and when we have to have dialogue around it. And the great thing about both her and I is that we do have that level of self-awareness that I recognize that it's my issue. If you have anxiety about something with your child that has nothing to do with the thing that you can't control and has nothing to do with them and has everything to do with you and your insecurities around that topic. And that's where the work needs to be done on yourself. You can't control the uncontrollable. COVID-19, nobody can control that. You can't control how your kid is going to respond to it. Only you can control the anxiety that you get from it and it comes from something within that is normally rooted in something deeper. And so that communication with your partner and yourself is I think where the work is done to get through situations like this. Yeah, I have a very similar, very similar with me and Courtney in terms of like us being sort of polar opposites for certain things, like especially with fear. And this was a lot harder when she was working in the pediatric environment where she was a pediatric nurse. And every day she would see the worst case scenario of how something would play out with a child where they would fall out of a window, they weren't wearing a helmet, they got into a car crash. All these things, she would inevitably bring that kind of energy home and I would have to talk her down through all these scenarios just to let our kids ride their bikes. Or like just to like go out at a park and not be worried about everybody's colds, diseases, whatever else, bacterias that are out there to get us and harm us. But at the same time, I had a moment where I was so disconnected from that fear where I'm sleeping soundly like a rock and just the faintest noise sparked Courtney to get up, run downstairs and my son was choking on a marble. Oh, I remember this. And I cannot shake that. That's something that I am so glad that she had that instinct. And so it's tough because it's like, you can't be completely oblivious to the fact that it's a signal. Like there is real things out there to consider. How much do you water that though? How much do you invite that to dictate how you make your decisions and how much can you really control? So it's a balance. I feel for parents that are single in trying to raise children and deal with that fact and not have a balance from that because I really do lean on her from those types of scenarios because I don't wanna run my life going forward and providing and doing all these things and taking risks with that kind of pulling me super hard the other direction. Yeah, no, that's a great. It's almost like, I mean, obviously, it takes two people to make a kid and it's like they balance each other out oftentimes or one is too far one way. Others too far if they were by themselves probably not a good idea, but then together. And I think that's the answer to this question is how do we work it out with our partners or handle that with our partners is appreciate your partner for being the opposite of you. No matter what side you're probably on. You're probably gonna go too far without that. Right, and that's Katrina and I, hopefully he ends up being an amazing kid because he gets a great balance, right? He gets a dad who manufactures adversity to make sure that he has some challenges and he has a loving mother who's there to support and save him when needed. And so hopefully he ends up being this incredible kid that gets both sides of that. And you have to embrace it. I think we're, you have one, you have challenges as if you're a single parent. I mean, I can't imagine that. Or if you're the headstrong person in the relationship and you decide your way of the highway and then the other person just folds, like, I don't think that's healthy either. I think there's a reason for that push-pull and you can use it to your benefit. Yeah, and it's funny, I interpreted this like, how do you handle your kids' fear and anxiety? And I was gonna say it's such a different, I have such a different approach with that now than I used to where if my kids were really scared about something that I perceived as being like, irrational, like, oh, don't be afraid. It's not a big deal or whatever. They usually dismiss it. Yes, and I realized more relatively recently, you gotta let them have their feelings. They have to let them process their feelings. Oh, you were scared? Same lesson, dude. Yeah, how did you, so how did that feel? What was that like? And let them process out their feelings so that they can honor it because when you dismiss it, they'll probably think, okay, well, this is not an accurate feeling. I can just stuff it or dad is not the person to go talk to, totally different than the way I used to handle it in the past.