 and how did you get into golf through my dad actually my dad was a king golfer and every once a week we used to go down to the local range and just practice practice and then there was a par three course we used to go and we used to play and then that's how i learned how to play and then progress from there and are you willing to divulge what your handicap might be uh it ranges really i'll tell you from about eight to ten depending on yeah depending on how much i play yeah it ranges from there it's not bad yeah so i'll say if i practice a bit more then it probably would be a bit lower