 Coming up on this edition of Abel Denaner, we will focus on the conflict and history of Israel, plus we will go through the history of Gaza with David Wecker, social worker of Israel. All that and much more when Abel Denaner on this breaking news edition of Abel Denaner starts right now. Major sponsors for Abel Denaner include Washington County Metal Health where hope and support come together. Media sponsors for Abel Denaner include Park Chester Times, Muslim Community Report, WWW, this is the Bronx.info, Associated Press Media Editors, New York Parrot Online Newspaper, U.S. Press Corps, Domestic and International, Anchor FM, and Spotify. 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Coming up on this edition of Abel Denaner, we will focus on the situation in Israel, the history of the situation in Israel, conflict and how you can also, at the end of this program, we will give address and phone number where you can send your donations to Israel during this time of need. We would like to welcome a social worker in Israel who is no stranger to Abel Denaner, who has been on this program before. His name is David Wecker. He's a social worker in Israel. Welcome, David, to Abel Denaner. What is your position in Israel? What do you do? So, let's start from there. What do you do in Israel? Actually, I'm a social worker with foster kids. I work in charge of the immunity of the foster care. I try to find them where they can go after they finish the foster care system. I try to work with other NGOs to try to convince the government to put more resources. So, people can understand what's going on. What exactly is going on now in Israel? Let's talk about that in terms of the history of war. Go ahead, David. Before the term of the Palestinians didn't exist, when Israel was founded, there were no Palestinians. They were just Jordanians. They controlled the area. They controlled the state of Gaza, the Egypt people. They controlled there. After a while, the Egypt people were losing their war. After what happened in Black September in Jordan, the Palestinian people rebelled against Abdullah, the father of the king right now in Jordan. After they rebelled against him, they needed to fight against him. He said, I don't want to take care of this place anymore. Then we started to hear that term. Israel tried to negotiate with the people that lived in Judea and Samaria. For a long time, we did the wire cord. We tried to do a lot of peace with them. In a lot of terms, we did Oslo. We did a lot of... As we can see in that Sunday, that's very sad Sunday and horrible Sunday. Because according to... So let's go down the list here. Starting in 1948... So let's go... I have a list here exactly of the situation. 1948, Arab-Israel war. November, 1947 to July, 1949, to be exact. Yeah. So this was... It started six months of civil war between the Jewish and Arab militias. With the mandate... The independence war. A mandate period in Palestine ending and turning into a regular war after the establishment of Israel and the intervention of several Arab armies. Then you had the Palestinian insurgency from 1950s to 1960s in which Palestinian attacks and reprisal operations were under Israel's defense force during the 50s and 60s. Then you had the Suez crisis. April 1956, which was a military attack between Egypt and Britain, France and Israel. Then you had the Six-Day War, June 1967, which was fought between Israel and Arab neighbors. Then you had the War of Atarion, which was 1967 to 1970, a limited war between the Israel military forces and the Egyptian Republic. The Yom Kippur War was in 1973. Palestinian insurgency was in south Lebanon. In 1982, there was another Lebanon war. Then south Lebanon was from 85 to 2000. And the list goes on. And the Gaza War, or Operation Cast Lead, was from 2008 to 2009. But now we're furthering that into what's going on now. I'm going to ask you an opinion-related question. Do you know how long, according to Net Yahu, this is going to go on for a very long time? Do you think there's a ceasefire in the works or not yet? I think that right now the situation like we try for a lot of time to let the people in Gaza live their life, we even take the Jewish out in 2006 and really try to see if they want another future for themselves. But right now I think the public opinion and I think that every human can see the horrible that the terrorists from the Hamas group doing and they get back up from the people that live in Gaza, that they elected them. And now we can see that the raping of women, the killing of infants, it's like horrible that we never see. We don't want to go back to that horrible time in the histories. Because it's going according to the Bible, to the Torah, where they talk about Gaza. Talk a little bit about that and how the Torah views Gaza. Yeah, actually, Gaza according to the Bible, it's part of Israel. And there is a lot of people living in Gaza. There is a lot of talking about rabbis and all these things that really live in Gaza. And in Gaza they even found a synagogue. And nobody can say that Gaza didn't have Jewish roots. And it's really like we have very deep roots there. But right now I don't think, I think right now we really need to look on this and thinking right now we do so much things to try to help the people that live in Gaza to live their life. We think maybe we will choose a better future. But right now we see that they more focus on killing us than focus on making their life better. We can't as a nation and as a people that suffer so much through the history. We didn't come to our land just to suffer more, to suffer from things that we see in the past. We know that there is people that need a lot of Jewish. Now we have our country and now we don't go into let that happen, no matter what. And right now I think that they're going to be a very strong reaction to that. We will never do to the Palestinians, to the people that live in Gaza the same thing that they do to us. We will never torture women, we will never rape women, we will never kill the innocent babies. We will not do that, but we will need to ensure that this is the last time that something like that happened. So just so people can understand more, why is it that people are... I'm trying to do something journalistically correct. Why is it that people are so angry at Israel? Is there a main reason for that? Yeah, you know, from my perspective I think that a lot of people are very angry when people... It's really hard, you know, even as a social worker, you know, it's all the time it's more easy to blame somebody else in your problem. This is part of the problem, you know, it's really hard there. It's really hard there and it's more easy to say the Jewish is in charge of everything. Israel is in charge of everything instead of to say, hey, let's fix our society. Let's see what's going on. So you from the outside looking in as an Israeli citizen and also a very great social worker. It's amazing how you care for kids. How do you tell parents about what is going on or how to prepare for this? You know, you deal with the foster care system, you deal with a lot of things involving children and teenagers. Let's talk a little bit about what are some tips that you can offer parents? Because obviously psychologically it's not living in a war-torn country, okay? When your anxiety is up, you know, people are worried about food, people worry about things closing, services closing that they need. How can you break it down to people who are going through situations right now? You know, floods, fires, war, you know, what are some things that you can offer parents as advice going through this right now? I will just go back to the last question before I go forward to that question. And I will say, you know, we are just like 50 years after the Yom Kippur war. You know, the Prime Minister was then Vladimir. She came from America, she's a American citizen. But she says something that I think is symbolized this. She says the day that we will find peace is the day that they will love their kids more than they will hate us. You know, this is the only way to find peace. And it's a problem right now. This is not a situation. And I'm going back to your, going forward to your next question. And I will answer you. This is very, very hard, you know, there's a lot of people that are post-traumatic. And I involve in like a group of volunteers that try to help the women, the traips, kids that their mother or their father killed or murdered or burned alive next to them or kids that their mother, their son murdered, their infant son. And we try to do our best to give them the best care that we can do. And you know, there is a lot of post-traumatic. There is all the young people that celebrate in that party just want to make some fun, to relax, to chill a little bit. We need to take care of all of these people. And we need to start a therapy with these people. And I think that the most motivated thing that I tell kids and parents to do that thing is first to let the immersion talk. Don't let your immersion. It's okay. We scared. You know, there is a joke about a German officer in the first war. He told to the Jewish next to him, you see? You are so afraid. You are Jewish. You were the Nath. You were afraid. He told him, you know, if you were scared like me, you run away. And I think I give them all the time. I tell them, it's okay. It's okay that you're afraid. It's okay that you feel anxiety. You know, a lot of people feel very bad right now. We feel like our security gone. We feel like I'm secure right now. And we feel a lot of... But we as a society really, really... And we're going for them. And we're looking forward. And we still focus more about how we make the life of us. We want the life. We like the life. We don't want death. No of the people that live around us and all of us. This is what we like. And this is our main focus. And we try. And this is what we all the time talk with the kids. We all the time focus on that. There is a lot of people, kids and teenagers that face now anxiety and a lot of things. But at the end, the Jewish people go through a lot of difficult times. And every time they get out from this and they become even stronger. And I hope this time it will happen again, you know. But how do you deal with anxiety and what's going on? Is there any tips that you can give them? We tell them to talk with the kids about what's going on. To tell them. To tell them it's okay to be afraid. To tell them it's okay to... It's very important that if you feel something you can go to your parents, talk with them about that. We tell the parents to give them a lot of details about what's going on. Because we don't want that they will feel like they don't know what the situation is. And then they start to imagine things. They're going to get into my house. And we give them all these tips and we try to make it better. We try to make the situation better. And we told them all the time be focused on the future to a past. We go into it together. I think this is really important. We go into it together as a society, as a country. It's unbelievable now. What you see right now, everybody is volunteer to make us finish and win that war. And to get out from that situation. So let's pop up a map. This is going to be an editing, by the way. So Israel, as we're looking at a map here. So you have Ashkelon, Erez, Sirot, and Gaza. Yes, Sirot, according to the map. So there's something here called a no access zone, access prohibited by Israel. And the Gaza Strip, there's restrictions since the permanent blockade in 2007. And they had an international airport, which was destroyed in 2002 from what I can see in the map. So explain a little bit. Why do they call it the Gaza Strip, number one? Is there a reason for that? And can you explain a little bit about the areas that are really affected? Yeah, actually Gaza Strip is Gaza Strip because it looks like a Strip. This is what I call Gaza Strip. Okay. Actually I was in Gaza when there was a Jewish settlement there, before 2006. And actually Gaza can be a wonderful place to live. I think if it was in Israel, there was tons of people that want to live there because it's so beautiful. The ocean, it's so nice. The weather is very comfortable. Everything gives you like every reason that life will be good. The only problem is that because they make all the terror attack, we have to save ourselves and we close it. But still we give them, we give some people from them to come to work in Israel. This can happen to the others. People from Israel never go and work in Gaza. Yeah, but yeah, because it says no access zone. Access prohibited by Israel. So explain that. Yeah, yeah, of course, because if some Israel go to Gaza, it happens. Some guy with a mental problem go into Gaza and they kidnap him. Israel can go right now to Gaza. It can have a severe conflict with us. You mean severe consequences? Yeah. You're welcome. And it's really, you know, about we really need to be able to. And, you know, we try our best to help them in all the world actually try to develop in the European Union. But as we can see, we they choose again and again terror against in life. And this is this is the problem. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. So you're you're basically now working from home because of the situation. Yeah. Schools are closed. Businesses are closed. Explain that. You know, people need food in the supermarket. They are they hoarding so hoarding means like during the pandemic, people would get extra toilet paper. During this war, are people stocking up or shelves and. Yeah. There are things for another day we don't have in the supermarket. Like what? We have a shortage of things like water, for example. And we don't have toilet paper. It's a little bit hard to find. We don't have eggs. They try to try to make it better. But, you know, it will be a challenging time because a lot of people are very stressful and they take more than they want. You mean more than they're supposed to have. Or they need, yeah. Yeah. And and. But the supermarket is still open. But, you know, there is part of the unit. You know, they have a shortage of people because more than almost, almost 400,000 people now reserve. So what does it explain to people? What exactly is the reserve? We have every citizen in Israel, men or women. And get go to the army when they get to 18. And everybody have actually military training for three years. And then three years for men, two years for women. And then everybody do every year they do like a reserve to train himself. And then if we meet some situation like that, we have a very big army to fight against who try to fight with us. And now a lot of people go to reserve. Then we don't have enough people in the supermarket. And what they do, there is a lot of old people that come and volunteer just that they don't say we don't want money. They don't need the money. And they come and they say, okay, we want to help the society of Israel. They come to work without money, but they make everything, they make it work, still work, even though the situation is that way. And this is really warm our hearts, you know, and we see the Jewish around all the world. And even all the Western world right now, they support Israel. And it's really warm our hearts. You know, it's not what it's saying in the past, you know, and we know what happened in the Second World through the Jewish people. So let's talk about services during this time. Obviously in Gaza, you know, people are hurt. They need to go to the hospital. There's a service called Magen David Adam, which is an organization formed by by by nurse Dr. Dr. Michelin. I can't pronounce her name in 1930 as a volunteer association and single branch in Tel Aviv, which has operating branches in Jerusalem. Magen David is a alum is is the equivalent to the Red Cross that is, you know, that it's in Israel. So explain. So if you're a nurse, if you're a doctor, if you're paramedic, you have to be in this war, correct? You have to help. Is that part of the reserves or is that separate? Yeah, this is something that we do. We help everybody. We help everybody. We don't look in. We see every human as a human. Even the terrorist attack that attacked Israel get right now treatment after that they will need to see a judge and he will decide what's going on with it. But right now we try to help them because they hurt him. They they we try to help them to live to live and then they can go to the charge and find what would be the result of what they're doing. But but we in Israel, everybody is part of we have a very good health care. You know, I know Bloomberg even say that Israel have the best health system in the world. And our doctor is one of the best in the world. And and we try to, you know, we try to to to help the older people that suffer to that war. So what so what so is it mandatory? So let's talk about the reserves right now. Yeah, from what I found out you we have family that's in the reserves. Is it mandatory to go into the reserves during these things? Actually, it's mandatory. If you don't go, you can find some results from that. You know, it's not so easy. Actually, you need you need to you have to go you have to protect, you know, because at the end, if you will not protect who will protect, you know. Well, I mean, if somebody's sick and they can't go, then that's a different. Yeah, of course. Of course. They understand. We don't have those areas in the country. We have them cry. We expect that people, you know, Okay, so explain. So, so let's really this is the 50th anniversary of the young Kippa war. And this is one of the main reasons why this is happening. So can you explain a little bit about that and really why this is going on? And so people can understand it, boy. I think that right now we are very focused about winning that war and see that things like that didn't happen. But yeah, we will have to ask the tough question about how this happened, where the military was, how they don't prefer to that. I really didn't see this coming. You know, we will have to ask questions. You know, we will have to ask, we will have to see how it's happened, where the intelligence was, you know, we are very proud. These other people are very proud on their army and on their intelligence service. And we really get all this became a little bit harder to believe right now. But I'm sure that after the war we will do, we will find, we will understand how this happened. We will prevent it from happening in the end. I think there is a lot of reason why it's happening. Can we, I mean, all throughout history, let's talk about this for a minute. Yes, you had the conflict with Israel, but all throughout history you had war. The Holocaust was very horrible. All throughout time we've had prejudice. Can we really prevent prejudice from happening? Can we really prevent war from happening? You know, I personally think that we can do our best. I don't know if we can do our best and we can take a price that it will not be worth it next time to do it. And we can make things that it will, even if they want to, it will take a long time to do it again. And I think this is the way Israel is going right now. And hopefully, you know, all the time when I think what future, you know, just my son asked me if the terrorists have a tank, you know. This is not the world that we want our kids to grow to. And we do our best that our kids will live in a better world. This is what I'm focused about right now. So how can we simplify, since we deal with special needs and families, how can we simplify this to a person with special need who is in Israel right now, you know, going through this? How do you simplify this in a nutshell, as they say? How do you explain this to a social worker? I mean, we explain this to kids that we don't want war. How do you really explain this to a person with special need? Because now the IDF has a special division. You know, let's talk about that also. They have a special division for people with special needs to serve in the army. Non-combatives, you know, but people with special needs can serve in the army. So let's talk about that as well. So it's like an open-ended question. How do you tell kids with special needs or tell people with special needs about this war? And, you know, let's talk about how the IDF employs people with disabilities during this. Go ahead. Yeah, actually, I think, you know, Israel is a country that became founded by people that come from the hashes of the Holocaust. And this is why we're so sensitive to all this special needs issue. Because, you know, the German, I know that you know what the German attitude was toward this topic. And we really take the opposite direction. We try to pick that people with special needs will be as much as possible part of the society. We have a very big war for society just to have that to happen. We spend like maybe double the price to people that in the special education here in Israel for kids. And really focus on that. And I think that kids with special needs need like a special direction. Every, you know, we take them to experts in that field and they help them to understand it. I don't think I'm the right, you know, there is people that know better than me how to. But we take them, there is experts, explain them exactly how the parents explain them exactly what's going on. But you're right about that, it's really hard, you know, people with special needs have their challenges and now they have a general challenges and it makes it even harder. So how does the IDF employ people with disabilities? Yeah, then they actually need to volunteer. It's not mandatory for them because we don't want to monitor somebody and somebody, if somebody maybe you feel that you can do it. They volunteer and they get, you know, according to their abilities, they can go and call out a few needs. You know, they can choose. Okay, so breaking it down, war will never stop. Prejudice will never stop or at least we, you know, we wanted to stop but that's the way things are right now. So do we have a ceasefire hasn't been issued yet, right? Yeah. No, no, I don't think, I think it will take time this time. I think it will take like maybe months. It will take a long time because we need to do it very deep to that place, things like that. It didn't happen again. We have to touch the roots this time. We can't just, you know, take the grass out. We need actually to take the roots out. Is there anything that we haven't covered in this that you want to cover? No, I really, you know, I'm really happy about the opportunity that you let me speak here. You know, it's really, it's really like Walmart on my heart that it's the second time that I'm in your show. Actually, it's the third. The third, yeah. Third or fourth, yeah. And it's the third time that I'm in your show and, you know, it's so amazing that you like it. Israel is a socialistic society. I will not call it, it's combined. There is part of their society and there is part of their more capitalist society. How, how so? How can you break it down? What's the difference between a socialistic and a capitalist? Like, there is, there is places like there, there is more like old, where all the government controlled and more socialist. But most of the market were by walk by, by a free market, free market rules. Then we combine. You know, even the healthcare in Israel, it's like there is, there is like organization that fight against each other again to get a client. But everybody in Israel deserves to have a health insurance. Do you get, for example, if you got hurt during an attack on your house or you, you know, and you're actually hurt. Do you, like during a terrorist situation, do you get extra money in Israel or extra health insurance? How does that work? Yeah, of course, actually my father gets hurt by a terrorist attack in the, I think it was in the 90s. And until now they pay him every month money to compromise him about that. We believe like we're going with the people that we send to the war and we send to mission, we're going with them. We don't let them to be alone. And I think this is part of the strength of the Israel community. If this is Israeli society, we can argue, we can don't agree. But at the end when something bad happened to you, you know that you have somebody that you can trust him. Okay, trust your country. Okay, let me, so, okay, so now before we end the show, let's go to the Ableton on Air bulletin board. It contains numbers of the numbers or websites. If you want to contact our guests on today's program or donate money for the cause on today's program. For more information on the conflict on Israel and if you would like to donate money to the Israel cause for the army or supplies, you can contact www.nefisbenefis.org. That is www.nefisbenefis.org. Thank you, David Wecker for joining us on this edition of Ableton on Air and please be safe during this time in Israel. And please, you know, with your family there right now. Thank you very much for joining us on this edition of Ableton on Air. I'm Lawrence Seiler. More information on Ableton on Air and what you've seen on today's program, you can go to www.orkamedia.net. I'm Lawrence Seiler. See you next time. Now let's go to the Ableton on Air bulletin board. It contains, it contains websites and information on today's program. If you would like to donate any supplies to the Israeli army during this conflicting time, you can go to www.afmda.org. That is www.amfda.org. That is m-a-g-e-n-d-o-m, which is the equivalent of the American Red Cross. So if you would like to donate any supplies to the, if you would like to donate any funds or any supplies for what is going on right now, you can go to the donate page of magandavidadum.org, which is the equivalent of the American Red Cross. So for more information on that, you can go to www.afmda.org. And if you would like to find out more information on Israel and services, you can go to www.nephishbenefish.org. That is www.nephishbenefish.org. This has been the Ableton on Air bulletin board, only on Ableton on Air. I'm Lawrence Seiler. Thank you to David Worker, social worker. We must pray for Israel. I'm Lawrence Seiler. See you next time. Major sponsors for Ableton on Air include Washington County Metal Health, where hope and support come together. 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