 So Chris, let me know when you're done and when you're okay, if you're okay with them. Yeah. So Chris, you move to approve them. I move to approve them. The minutes of 11 three. Okay. I guess I second. And so you vote yes. I vote yes. And I vote yes so minutes approved. All right, moving on. So updates. Chris, do you want to give us an update just on the JPA status. Sure. So, Alan has Alan reviewed the JP, JPA draft APA put his own questions and comments in didn't really have a lot of edits, but put question comments in. And now him and Rick are going to get together and look over the thing together. And, you know, as I saw was Alan had reached out to Rick, it was yesterday, asking him if next Monday would work. So hopefully they will get together next Monday and hopefully they will kind of touch base on everything so we have a fairly clear direction when they're done. But I suspect it will probably still be a few questions. Once they're done, we'll take what they have and I assume the next step is to for us to then go through and work, work their comments in as need be or develop, turn them back into questions and hopefully we can get us to a one back time, one, one time around and be done. But it makes sense to meet with them like once they both have their comments, would it make sense to meet with them? Yeah, right. But why don't we, why don't we see what their comments that they come back with once they actually go through the thing together. Okay. I think that's what we were waiting for from the very, you know, from way back when was for them to go through it together and come up with a common set of comments and stuff for us. And then, then yes, it might very well make sense for us to meet all together. Okay. And I'll be pushing for the staff as soon as possible. Okay. So you're just going to wait depending on what their comments or questions are. I mean, I think it's more important for them to meet together than it is for us to meet with them. If you think would you just all go through everything that once I think it's better for them to go through. No, no, no, no, I think they should meet together first. I'm saying that after they meet, and they sort of, if they get on the same page about things, but they both collectively have a few questions for us, would it make sense to schedule a meeting with them together with them and us to sort of answer some of, if they have any outstanding questions. Would it make sense to meet with them about it so that we can just hash it out and not keep going back and forth at this point. Yes. Yeah, I'm just thinking that, you know, for it may actually save time if we meet with them so we can talk it through. Okay. Yes, I think we'll say the same thing. Okay. All right. Okay, great. And let's see what else. Okay, so I guess that moves us to the CCA next steps. I was hoping Tom would be here, but he's shortly on his way, I think, but not here quite yet. So the outreach and education. My dog is going to be most annoying right now, unfortunately. Let's see. He wants to play. Sorry, but let's see. Okay, I'm just going to open a document. I'll share my screen. So just give me one second and then I'll share my screen so I can share this with everybody. Okay, just let me know that you can see that. Yeah. Okay. So I think so this is the document that. Marlena put together and. Consolidated, you know, our input and then cleaned it up and made it look better and all of that. So, but she had a few things for us, I think still. I know initially she had something about an, we had had something about an initial handout. That we were going to do. And she had questions about that. Whether that was something that, you know. Was necessary. And I think our response was basically like what it hurt to, you know, it doesn't hurt to sort of. You know, you know, I think that was a good thing for us to just kind of get the ball rolling. So I think they wanted to know what that would be. So. Is this something that. We, and we could do this. Even if it's not in the plan, right? Doesn't have to be in this plan for us to do it. But it's in this plan. We have to do it. Is that the way it is. Right. Yes. Yeah. I'm not sure why we would have it in the plan. You should just take it out. Yeah. Okay. I don't have a problem with that. I can just see a scrambling the last minute. Yeah. I go, no, we didn't do the initial one. So she said there was already going to be one. So I guess her point was why, if you've already got one, why do you have to have an initial one? So. Okay. But I think that partly came from. We're putting that in a little bit of a better way. And we have an opening and then we have a. The belly green alliance members who wanted to get something started. So again, we can do that. We just don't need to put it in. Yeah. So we'll take that. Okay. I'm just making a note. And then I guess we want to just sort of look through this list, I think, and make sure that this is really the organizations that we want to include, because again, we have to reach out to all of these folks. There's anything anyone on here, at least from our standpoint that we wouldn't. I think that we said last time. There's a number of congregational based green group. I wouldn't. But we don't have to list them specific. Yeah. United Universalists. Oh, yeah, that's well because they're specifically a climate group. Well, there are climate groups in multiple congregations. So are you saying we should take that one out? I think we should just say congregations. Okay. Congregational green groups. Can you scroll up just a little bit? Yep. See the bottom of page two. No other way. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, thanks. And we're survival center, but not my Hampton survival center. Unless it's below, I can't see it. So you're saying, let's see. I don't know that it is. Because I want to scroll down just a little bit. Sorry. I'm just trying to determine whether or not we have to reach out to every one of these if we have them on the list here. My understanding was that we do. That if we put it in here, we have to reach out to them. So we can always add more, but we can't do less and we can't outreach to less. But if we say we're going to outreach to these groups we're supposed to. We also have N double M or stand double ACP and two degrees on the same line or two different. Oh, okay. I don't know if I can add about that. All right, I'll correct that. Yeah, also there's North Hampton associations, North Hampton neighbors. I'm not sure what North Hampton neighbors is. It's a supporting independent living for elderly people. Okay. Okay. I think Valley Community Development should have corporation. Valley Community Corp. Or do feel Valley Community Development Corp. Yeah. Valley CDC Community Development Corporation. Did the Latin, the Hispanic service organization in North Hampton go defunct. Which one. I can't remember its name, but it used to be the. The Spanish speaking service organization that served, you know, in North Hampton. For some reason I can't remember the name right now, but whatever we did or we did outreach, we always worked with them. There's so many organizations that we could be reaching out to them that, you know, I hope we will. Andrew, your voice is very, very quiet. Yeah. Okay. I see why. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have the wrong one in my ear. I'm also trying to be quiet because I'm at the. I'm watching the baby. She's so. How nice. Yeah. So I think we will. That was it. Is Casa Latina still there? Sorry. I don't know. I'm sorry, can I stop sharing for a second? Oh, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's fine. Tom is here and I'm trying to see if I can. I mean, all we're saying here is that we will offer to speak to staff and to constituents. By information of the program. So I suppose if all of these organizations take us up on that. It's going to be a bit of work. It's just a very uneven list with Forbes library, but it's going to be a little bit of work. So I think we're going to be able to. Lily or Jones. Or the one in Helen. Yeah. I mean, can't we just say. Area libraries. Area life. And area congregations. So, okay. So remove. Specific libraries. And specific congregations. And put just area congregations and area libraries. Yeah. So we're going to do that. We're going to do that. We're going to do that. We're going to do that. We're going to do that. We're going to do that. So Tom, I know you just joined us. We're going through the education and outreach plan. And just looking at the list one more time. And fine tuning it. So this is. Thank you. Apologies for being late. No worries. Glad you could be with us. Same thing with the schools. You don't have to Northampton schools here. You've got cameras. You've got the schools. Area libraries. And area congregations. And you could consolidate. You could do. Area schools and. PGOs, PTOs. Simplify it. Okay. Yeah, like the AR. Central office is very. Specific. Yes, it is. So neighborhood associations in Northampton neighbors. I know someone said that earlier. I think. Northampton neighbors is the neighbor. Is that the neighbor to neighbor. But former it's something different. Nope. And is it all one thing then? No. No, they're different things. Okay. So, and do we want to have both? Well, I think Northampton neighbors is a specific thing. Yeah. I think Northampton neighborhood associations. It's just general. It's general. I know. I know Northampton has a number of those. And it'd be best to keep it general because they sometimes become active and are very active. And then they suddenly kind of fade. Yeah. And I'm assuming that Amherst and Pella might have some neighborhood associations too. So that concludes everybody. Right. But we're keeping Northampton neighbors in. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like it's a good constituent. Is it seniors? What's that? I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with Northampton neighbors, but. Andra, what you just said. It's a senior. A volunteer. It's seniors organization. We have one in Amherst. What if we, there's also constrict chronicle. Northampton senior services agency. What if we just say. Senior services agencies and take a bunch of these. Yeah. We could even just say senior centers and senior service agents. Organizations. Right. Senior centers and senior service organizations. And then. Amherst senior center. Northampton neighbors. Com street. Northampton. Senior services. Oh, it's in there twice. I say. I'll go through that piece again. So yeah, so constrict chronicle. We just want to take that out because it looks like it's through Northampton senior services. Who knows. I mean, some of this might have come from Adele. Yeah. But if we're putting in senior services. You know, we don't have to. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Anything else I should take out. Yeah, I think making these just categories versus. I mean, even, I mean, I know we have them listed, but even just saying we could say things like, you know, area chambers of commerce. And take out specific, like Northampton Amherst just say area chambers. And, and bids. Is it called a bid in Northampton. Business district. Yeah, do you have a business improvement district? You don't. Okay. They eliminated it. Yeah. They did. They were forced to eliminate. Yeah. So interesting. The lead up to this list says exemplar organizations include. Right. It's not even. It's examples. Yeah. It's not that they're all exemplar organizations, but I'm sure they are. Also right below the list, it says an initial informational handout. Is that the same handout that we decided not to have above? Oh, let me. Let's see what this says. Oh, so it says valley green alliance also developed initial program branding and initial. And an initial handout. So. Yeah. And that sounds like the same thing. So maybe this one just wants to say. Marlena and just clarify which one. One of them they're going to do, right? Yeah, that's not theirs though. I think this is the one because it said valley green alliance developed. And I think that was us. Right. Wasn't that. Andra, do you know. You're muted. Oh yeah. Just, just put a question in. I don't remember. I kind of feel like. You know, I guess it's just a matter of the, you know, what we say. And what we have to, you know, what we say we're going to do, we have to do a kind of thing. So. Yeah. And it sounds, I thought that came from your group. I don't remember anything about it. Okay. Well. I think, I mean, so what I wanted to propose. Was if we leave it in above. Like right under the list. So if we leave it in here. Then when we get down here, we can just say. The handout. The initial handout will be. Provided. To help educate the public about the program, blah, blah, blah. I've seen the future tense. And the other things are in past tense. So I think. That must. I don't know. I'm sure Marlene is that her name Marlena. Marlena can fix these things. Well, but she has to know what we're doing. That's all. So are we. They're doing a handout. So. Yeah, let's just, I think. Right. Just kind of. Ask her which one of those refers to the handout that they're doing. And leave it in. And if it's not referring to their handout, then we'll take it out. No need to have two handouts. So we'll remove whatever is ours and leave theirs. Yeah. Okay. All right. Right. That was helpful because I think that'll help her too. So. So some of this is just the TBD stuff. And I think as far as again, I just wanted to take a quick look at these. Media outlets. I'm not seeing Amherst media on this list. It's there. Via cable access above. Oh, good. But Northampton also has cable. That's Northampton open media. So what is it, Chris? I think it's up there. That says local newspapers. Yeah, let me change. Pretty sure Northampton open media is cable access. So maybe she could check on that or we could check on that. And then put it under cable access. So it's Northampton open media. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Northampton open media, formerly Northampton community television. Especially. Just wondering why we would put it in the green field recorder. I don't know. Is that in the recorder? Kind of the same thing. Yeah. This one's being a different. And there's slightly different. So I think being a Gazette. Is all we would really need at the moment. We can always add the recorder in. And didn't we just want to sort of make it, put it out there in case, you know, there's some future interest. Oh yeah, but we don't need to list it here. Can still do that. When I think when we're ready to expand. So do we want to take up green field recorder? Oh, do we have it in there? We have green field recorder in here. But it would certainly be easy to do. Just as you know. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think those, some of those things. Like when we do. Press outreach, it just automatically goes to those places. So. What about Northampton department social media channels? How about we just say. All other municipal. Department. Social media channels in case. Tell them has some. So. So all other department. Municipal. I think we could still do that. I don't think we need to have it in the list. So we could just say all municipal social media channels. All yeah. And then get rid of the specifics. Or just say all other. So that if there's others. Yeah, they're included. I think it doesn't hurt to have some specifics. You could say such as. I don't think we have to get. Specific with. See embers. Matt. Of socials. Oh, I see what you're saying. So lose the Amherst and just have all other. Social media channels. So it doesn't say. Amherst specific. Yeah. Got it. You put an EG in front of the sea. Amherst. Of socials. No, no, just take it out. Yeah. This isn't a specific. That specific list. If you're going to take that out and you take out Amherst department, take out all other as well. Just say social media channels. Well, you've listed some social media channels already. So. Yeah, such as. Oh, I see you're saying. Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn are already listed. So. I was just saying all other other. Yeah. And then the rest of this list were. It's just. Our local news channels. What about these web based news agencies? I mean, we've got Amherst India on there in the Amherst current. Doesn't Northampton have some kind of local. Problem is I don't live in Northampton. Yeah. And then Dell's not here. The Dell already contributed to this list. So. Yeah, but we all did too. And now we're changing things. So. Yeah, I don't think I wouldn't add anymore. I mean. No, I'm wondering if I'm just wondering, do we want to leave those in. Or change it to be. No. No, no, those need to be specifically mentioned. View web based news. It's important to mention the Indian, the current. Well, that's why I'm wondering if it's equally, if you lived in Northampton as important if they have something equivalent, or are you just not aware. Then we can, then we can do it when we do it. You know, if that's a miss, we can add it in. Okay. Yeah. I just want to, yeah, I just want to make sure. You know, okay. Tom, doesn't Pelham have a. I have a sign up thing that residents can sign up through the town hall. Kind of a Pelham. Weekly news or monthly news thing. I think it's listed on here. Yeah. It's a new letter. Oh, okay. I see. Next door, Pelham is listed here too. Okay. Right. So next door, Pelham is web based. Why, why are we lifting out other web based news agencies? Yeah, we could do that. We could. It would be considered. No, it's not. No, it's not social media. The news agencies, web based news agencies are like newspapers, but their web newspapers. It's not the same as social media. I think it's fine to leave it like it is. Okay. All right. Well, we have some edits, but. Fairly minor. So the rest of that will leave as is. And then the program website will be updated to include the following information. We come up with this list. No, I think that's something that they did. Yeah. So they're going to, and they're going to come and they're going to create the website. So. Yeah. No, I'm just wondering is that I just, are we okay with that? Is there anything, you know, I mean, I don't think I have anything to add, but. I don't want to assume that others don't. So. I just want to make sure you're okay with that. Or if you have anything. That you think should be included. We've all reviewed it. I think it's fine. Okay. So I think this, I think is the. Postcard that they were talking about. For initial outreach. You know, when we talked about doing an initial handout above. I think this postcard. Is what they. Maybe we're referring to. Okay. I don't know. I'll double check. I'll double check. You're going to ask Marlena about. The handout. Yeah. Opt out letter. I think we're probably good with all of that. So I'm just looking to see if there was anything else that. Marlena noted. So we get with this. Section. You have to make the same changes there. Just say Facebook, Twitter. LinkedIn. All other department social media. And then also. Just. Have Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and lose the. The specific Amherst. So we get with this. Section. You have to make the same changes there. Amherst. See Amherst. My socials. Oh, just say Facebook, Twitter. LinkedIn. All other departments. Social media. You have to make the same changes there. You have to make the same changes there. You have to make the same changes there. LinkedIn and lose the. The specific Amherst references. Yes. The same as above. I think there's a typo here. Unless that was just an example. I think that's it. For that piece. So. Okay. I'll just make those suggested changes. I want to stop sharing that. So. The other thing is the draft aggregation plan. So. I don't know if folks had a chance to look at that yet. I did review it. Yes. I didn't really have anything to add or subtract from it, but I. So again, where would I find that? Would that be on the town of Amherst? That whole. So Chris, that file that I directed you to has all of our documents for. Okay. So for every meeting. You can always go to that if you haven't seen stuff. You can always go to that. Website and those packets and. You can always go to that. You can always go to that. You can always go to that. So. Our information will be loaded there. And I think the, what I had said, I think was that the meeting materials were going to be exactly the same as the last meeting. So I had sent them for the previous meeting. I didn't resend them again. So I just said, just go to your. Meeting materials from the last meeting. So I could. Let me see. I can look at Darcy's comments. I didn't do a very deep. Yeah, I don't think I did really either. We could just look at the comments from Darcy. So just give me a minute. I'm just going to get them up on my phone. It's easier. So her comments. She would like to request adding more language and the mission statement. Indicating Valley green energies intention to support the creation of new local renewable energy projects. And she said the Cambridge warding here. Yeah. Well, I've got it. I've only got it on my phone. Hold on. I'm just having trouble navigating a little bit. I don't want to lose the meeting or lose. What I've got open so far. So hang on. Let me just close out of this for a second. Sorry. Don't want to do that. And we'll close out of our whole meeting. Let's see. Okay. So I'll open a Darcy's comments first. But her comments are just kind of general comments. They're not actually in the. They're not in the. Yeah. The document. They're just like separate comments. Right. Missile aggregation plan that actually doesn't have them for same mission statements. Yeah, it's just got that sort of opening. Opening paragraph. Right. And I think that's what she means. So. Just hold on one second. So that's why I had her comments. Open separately. And I was going to share the. So I forward you all, I forwarded Darcy's email to all of you this morning. If you could open up that on like your phone or something, I could share the actual. Yeah, I've got the draft. Okay. So I can open the draft CCA and share that. I'm trying to think of which would be more useful to you sharing the CCA or sharing the. The comments. So why don't I share the CCA. I'm going to share this and. I can read Darcy's comments and maybe that'll help. Okay. So you should be seeing this valley green alliance. Plan October 21, 2022. Yes. So Darcy's first comment. Had to do with. I think this opening paragraph, she's calling it a mission statement, but I think it's basically just the opening. So what she was saying was that Cambridge had some wording, which said the program will feature renewable energy and the power supply. As defined below support for renewable energy projects, which she has. So she wants to add, so she wants to add to this. So in this paragraph right here. Darcy wants to add. I'll read it. The alliance developed the valley green energy program to bring the benefits of renewable energy. So Darcy wants to add. So she wants to add. So she wants to add to this. So in this paragraph right here. Darcy wants to add. I'll read it. The program will integrate additional renewable energy into the power supply. Will. And then she added support the creation of new local renewable energy projects and services in member communities. And then continue the rest and will. Offer a selection of supply options as well as the ability to leave the program. So Darcy wants to add to this. So Darcy wants to add to this. So Darcy wants to add to this. And then continue the rest. And then continue the rest. And then continue the rest. And then continue the rest. And then continue the rest. And then continue the rest. And then continue the options as well as the ability to leave the program and return to utility basic service. At any time with no penalty or fee. So she wants to add will support the creation of new local renewable energy projects and services. In member communities. My question is, is that a. Red flag or is that okay. I think we'll create them. It sounds like Cambridge is wording is a little different though. Cambridge is wording says support for renewable energy projects. It doesn't say we'll support the creation of. I think there's a difference there. That's just my. Take in terms of knowing how the DPU has been with these things. There's difference in saying you'll support it versus saying you'll support the creation of. You know, I go with you there. No support. Can we put in the stronger language and let. Paul's team. Say no, that's a red flag. So. Under the reason. Going this way is that at the moment we, you know, we have four different. Products that we will offer. One of them being the local or up to four. We don't have to do the local. I want to make sure we're not. We're not committing ourselves to doing something. But don't we have to put it in so that. And we're putting it in as a. One of our four levels. Already. So that's the case then was says the program will integrate additional renewable energy into the power supply. And that covers local as well as anything else. That covers everything. There's no need to put anything else in. Right, but. I mean. Just hard to interrupt it. There's no chat. So I can't discreetly say I'm leaving. Okay. But I agree with what Chris and Stephanie are saying. I don't think you want to get in trouble promising more than you're able to deliver. Have a nice weekend, everybody. Thank you. I see it as. The consultants. Keep us from getting in trouble. And we ask for what we want. So I'm not saying in local is. It'd be easy for it to get. It's something that. We want to be proud of, but. Or. Right. Yeah, so I'm, I mean, if it's just support. I agree with Stephanie that it's just support. I don't think you're going to. Overcommit. I don't think you need it because it says integrate additional renewable energy in the power supply. So it's already covered. Well, that's statewide. That's talking about reps. Um, No, Zen, it's, it's, it's broad. You can integrate additional renewable energy in the power supply. However you want to. However you possibly can. But if you can include local. If you really want to say local, then support. We'll support. All right. So can I just go back to the Cambridge wording. The Cambridge wording just says support for renewable energy projects. And that's what Darcy put in bold. That she wanted to have something like that in ours. I'm not opposed to having the support in there. I'm just saying lose the word creation or the words creation of. Yeah, I'm agreeing. Just say support. New local renewable energy projects and services and member communities. Because it doesn't say you're creating them. Yeah. Okay. Just saying you're supporting them. I said, okay, yeah. So and Chris, you're okay with just losing. So using that language, but just using the creation of. Our creation of. Yeah. Okay. So just use exact same language except for the only thing we're adding here is local support. For. New local renewable energy projects and services. Just very ambiguous. I'm sorry, Chris, you just said support for. Yeah, so take out. Take the creation of. And replace it with the word. He said more, not for the four. Support for the same support for, oh, I see. Support for. Yeah. New local renewable energy projects and services. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you might actually kind of say, well, what do you mean by that? Well, we can. Yeah. Address it later, but. Well, as we'll ask, we definitely want Paul's opinion. Yeah. It really is. Integrate. Support and offer. It's not support. Can you say that again? Andra. The sentence has verbs. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. There's no turning support into it. Now. Program will integrate support. And offer. Those are the. In the closet. Oh, I see. Well, no, she's got it. The way I'm reading it is. The program will integrate additional renewable energy into the power supply. We'll support the creation of so we're just saying. You know, the program will. We'll support the create the creation of. I'll just word Smith it a little bit and you can look at it. As you're saying, Andrew, you're saying basically don't use, don't put the word for in there. Just take the creation of out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think that's what I had said earlier too. Okay. Yeah. Just take the creation of out. Okay. Let's move on. So then the next thing. She wants to add language to the program option section. I think you just went by. The valley green standard. Valley green. Local. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Sorry. So. Okay. So she's saying this. Language was included in the B GECC a draft. Modeling Cambridge languages. There were reasons not to include it. But you'll have to look at her email for this because it's pretty long. Can you switch to sharing that? I'm going to have to stop sharing this. Yeah. So where is she wanting to put this in? She said in the. Program option section so that beginning of that section where it says electricity choices. Yeah. So she wants to add. So she wants to add this language. Stephanie. I don't see Tom. He was here and I think he had to go. He didn't say anything. He just left. Oh. No. He just disappeared. What he said was he, he did say that he looked at it and he said he didn't have anything. Unfortunately to add. So are you, but you're seeing the document, right? Yeah. I mean, so it seems to me when she's trying to put it here. So the electricity under electricity choices. Right. The aggregation plan says the program will give participants a choice in the percentage of renewable energy. And price of their electricity supply by offering multiple program options. Because the integration of renewable energy into the power supply is a driving motivation for the program. So the power supply is the power supply. The alliance, space offering. So this is actually kind of saying, instead of, you know, the integration of renewable energy into the power supply. Being driving motivation, she's saying. I think she's trying to say here, support for greenhouse gas emission reductions in the driving. Is the driving, right? Yeah. And I agree with that. I'm just not sure what the DPU will do with that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, is this, you know, maybe this is one of those things. I mean, in some ways I feel like I want to have this conversation with Paul Gormer. You know, it just seems to me like we can. Sort of talk about, well, what do we think? And, but I almost feel like. It would just be a good exercise to meet with them and go through this and have these comments to have the discussion so we can ask follow up questions and. Get clarification. I think the thing is that we want to, I guess we just want to be sure that we're on the same page. That's right. Yeah. We're asking for it. Yeah. So are we basically on the same page that. We would want to have this. Propose this and then have this follow up discussion with Paul Gormer about this particular section. I would say so. I mean. We went over this. A year ago or whatever. And I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I agree to a different point. So. I mean, I'll give you my, my take on this right now. When I would like to ask Paul, his feedback. If we were basically replaced because the integration. Or because. Reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Is a driving motivation for the program. You know, exploring that. I mean, the details of a B and C. Right. And I think it gets confusing. And I think it could become a little red flags for the DPU that flash on to the question. You know, I would keep it as big and broad. But the reason I would be interested to see whether we could change it or not is because. The integration of renewable energy is not the only way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. And we do want to stay broad. And maybe we shouldn't, maybe, maybe he's going to say, you know, the DPU is going to just. Bulked at that. And you're going to take five years to get this going. And that's what he thinks that I would stick with a renewable energy into the power supply piece. Well, that's my take on. You should ask Paul. Whether it makes sense to make. Greenhouse gas reductions. The driving motivation that we mentioned. Okay. Yeah. So that's really the basic question. I think so. And I suspect it's ill advised to mention a B and C. Yeah, no, I agree. I sort of feel like. If we get too specific. I'm, I'm very worried about the red flags of. And being curtailed by DPU. So if we can sort of keep it with us. You know, sort of a general statement about that as the driving factor versus. The other than maybe that would be. You know, and I would, I would look to Paul's guidance on that too. So, Andrew, are you, where are you with that? Sorry. Andrew, are you, are you with us or. I'm still here. It might be taking over. Maybe entertain. Okay. So. We were just talking about the, you know. Just making raising this to Paul is can we make. We know some missions, the driving factor and have a statement about that rather than the statement about. The renewable energy supply. Without listing these specifics. I think Chris and I both feel a little bit uncomfortable about having the specific language. So. I say we just raise it to Paul. Yeah. Yeah, let's do that. I, you know, I can certainly share Darcy's comments with him. And I'll just sort of add my own notes. You know, I'll post this conversation, maybe. Does that seem like an okay. Approach to sending this response to him. So I was just saying that I can, so. I can forward Darcy's comments to him. But also with some. You know, some of the, some of the, some of the, some of the. Statement about, you know, our conversation today. And some of the tweaks to what she's suggesting. And that wondering. You know, I'd like to in her comments. Ask Paul. You know, our A B and C to specific should we, could we just change the language. To make this reflect. GHG emissions as a driving factor versus. You know, I don't think we should have that as a comment on the side to Paul. Or do we do want to just eliminate a B and C all together and not even bother sharing that with him. When we get his opinion on it. Yeah. Yeah. We could just include it in an email or something. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm going to forward her comments, but I want to have our way in on this. Right. Yeah. You know, we can, we understand that this might. Be a little bit of a. Here would flag. To worry. Okay. All right. All right. So moving on then to. Electricity choices. Darcy is suggesting that we eliminate the 100% option in favor of the local option. My gut instinct is no. Well, I keep all four options because it gives us flexibility. But I know what she's saying. Since we're not going to work, we actually really don't know how we're going to do the local fund yet. And it's that is so unknown. Well, she has specific questions about that. She does. And if we got on it. Now, and started assessing what the availability of local Rex is. It might not be so far. We know that Michael doctor doctor is a local aggregator. And I don't, I don't know what is supplies like that. I don't know. I guess we can find out. Yes, we can send her questions to Paul. Yeah, I like I said, I'm just going to forward this to Darcy if I mean to Paul. Unless people either want to add to it or edit it a bit. If we're not in agreement with what she's asking is. I guess where I'm going. Like I don't want him to read this and think that we all think we should eliminate the 100% option. Right. We just want his opinions about this. We want his opinions on the questions. Okay. Yeah, I think actually one of the answers on is no number two. You've actually kind of stopped the Rex program with a smart program. But anyhow, let Paul, let Paul respond to that. But there will be some credit, some, you know, way of counting. Yeah, I don't, I don't think there is. I think when they went to the smart program, they basically eliminated the ability of buying Rex and retiring them. They got rid of that ability. That can't be because that's how we know the utilities are meeting their obligations. Yeah, it's some. So that's Paul, that's Paul. Hopefully he knows that more than I do. Okay, sorry, was there I was distracted and doing something else ask Paul, what are we asking Paul, just to have him go over the questions. Okay. I was just kind of believing that number two won't be possible because of the way I understand the smart program to work, but I might be wrong. Okay. Number two, I mean, if like them. I guess they could be community solar projects I'm just kind of thinking aloud. You know if the municipal load is being met by, for the most part by. When I say municipal load I just mean municipal buildings because there was something about municipal buildings here. Most of that load is being met by the solar landfill project. I don't even know how many nuisible building options we have for solar. You know, so I'm just wondering if that. I'm just sort of ruminating in my head about how that all would play out. How is, how are you using a landfill solar to provide renewable energy to municipality. So you're the off taker, just the town town accounts are the off taker for the solar landfill project. So you're, you mean you buying that meter and credits. Yes. Okay, so no, I'm sorry, we're getting a reduced electricity. I'm sorry, we're getting a reduced electricity rate is all. Yes. Yeah, it's just a, it's just a, it's essentially we're just getting our, yeah, we're just getting our electricity rate from the, from the solar landfill project, right. But you're not getting the rats, you're not buying the rats. They're selling the rest of the utilities, presumably. So we can't count that as get, you're not getting the green attribute. Right. So it's not covering the load, but it is contributing to the new in class one racks. Yeah, yes, I guess that's, yeah, where I'm going. I think it's important how we talk about this as we get closer and closer to, you know, figuring our emissions. No, I agree. Because it's, it's very confusing. Yeah. So, okay. Yeah, pass these by Paul. I mean, Paul is very patient, willing to answer our questions. And unless so I guess what I would ask then, just in the interest of time. So I think what I want to do is I'll forward our comments about the outreach and education plan to Marlena. I'll forward the stuff about the CCA review, the, the stuff that Darcy brought up. What I would ask is if there's anything else that anybody sees in the aggregation plan, I mean, it sounded like we really have not a lot that we can tweak is what Paul pretty much said. So, there's not a lot of area for us to edit. Um, he said that about the. Oh, no, he said that about the supply. The contract spy contract even very. Yeah, don't want to don't want to open that can of worms. Yeah, yeah, no, but he even even with the CCA though he said there wasn't like a lot. Yeah, that we can, you know, there's not a lot that we can really bear from. I think the reason is I recall, he wants to present something in the DPU that's very familiar to them. Because if it's not familiar, they need to stop and think about it and everything stops. So if you give them something that's pretty plain Jane, then it's more likely to move through fast. That's your question. And I feel like given what municipalities seem to be facing and I know it's kind of on it's on the DPU is kind of on the line right now about this but I know it just sounds to me like with all of the communities that in line waiting for review of their proposals which I would imagine many of them are pretty straightforward. The fact that we have anything that's even remotely different makes me nervous in terms of timing. It also means that ours isn't going to be the first in line. And no matter how quickly we got it in. The new administration. Yeah, and I would be very interested in. Testing, you know, the new administration DPU to point. Or are they going to assign. I mean, don't don't doesn't them. The new governor signed the head of the DPU. I'm not sure. Oh, yes, absolutely. Yeah, and let's Yeah, doing all things go well. You know, I would think that it's going to be a more forward thinking DPU this next week. This next iteration of the DPU to because I'm thinking just in terms of all the pushback that they've just recently gotten from so many organizations and bad press and bad press that I think they they have to, you know, sort of increase the speed at which they review these proposals, but also, I think they need to obviously be more open to the goals that the state has set for itself. Exactly. I mean they have to be, you know, so this is. So. All right, so are we good with that it's 1130 I feel like we've covered a good bit of stuff and I can forward these things along and I'll try to. I think I'll just forward them to to Paul and Marlena. I won't schedule a meeting with them I'll just sort of forward this along and if they want to schedule a follow up meeting I'll sort of ask for their guidance if they think that's needed. I don't want to meet with them again before they submit anything. Nope, sounds good. Yeah, they're probably going to send it to us for one final review anyway, I would think. Yeah, and I think the questions are easily answerable through response emails. Yeah, I think. Yeah, Paul, I think we'll be able to just respond. So, all right, I will. But I'll do that now. And for our next meeting. Let's see. I can't so Darcy would prefer we don't meet on this on Thursday. Tuesday or Thursday she has right or children, right. Monday won't work for me, I think. Let me just see right now this is probably really have to do it with Tom in their Wednesdays. I'll just throw it out there I'm just throwing out like what works for us and I'll throw out a date to everybody else but I'd like to at least propose a date tonight. Okay, well, hoping we can get comments back from Paul by then but. Okay, let's tell them. We'd like them by the night. Yeah, I will, I will. Just again, I mean I can tell them I just don't know that he'll be able to but that's okay I'll ask. So Wednesday the ninth at 10. Yeah. Okay, I'll see if Tom. I'm going to ask Tom first if it doesn't work for Tom I'm going to see if I can find another one. Okay thank you both so much Andrew do you have just a minute to hang on. You want to stop the recording. Yes, yes. So let me first stop sharing. And then I will stop the recording.