 And we're back with the breakfast and plus TV Africa open up on Kataria is on standby He joins us this morning as we look at the front pages of a national dailies We call it off the press open the ball. It's good to have you join us. Good morning Well, let's quickly take a look at the nation newspaper and find out what's making it this morning on the nation 2023 g5 governors allies to sustain anti-autical moves Agriph PDP governors chieftain mitz and legos wiki makinday otom ikpeazu insist on iusak These the riders you have underneath the boat caption on the nation newspaper And you also find interest rate hike Likely a cbn reviews indicators You also have all the quarters who are asking for the resignation of You know the cbn governor and what a view why we are backing obi by ohanese He symbolizes hope equity assembly balls or your tala wins world bank award on expenditure efficiency cleric abducted in quara Well, uh, that's it. We just turn our attention to the daily sun newspaper The daily sun reports almost Or quite differently from the nation Excitement as workup begins in krita. Of course that march was witnessed yesterday Uh between kata and Uh, do you know? unfortunately a four a four zero right there a quadro kata and a quadro The game opening But we we move away from that military gets ordered to tame terrorists before elections We have been directed to stop criminals and gunmen from disrupting Poles that's what the soldiers are quoted to say military gets ordered to tame terrorists before elections We have been directed to stop criminals and gunmen from disrupting poles again hope increases for production as bohari flags of oil exploration in bouchie and gumbay Does this solve the problem as you know question that's begging for answer Fighter jet kills cause of terrorists in kaduna cp orders manhunt for killers of three cops On stop and search duty Insecurity unemployment will determine how rural Nigerians will vote That's according to a survey apc pdp maintained problem of niger says I like to take that again apc pdp meant problem of niger says kwan kwaso And pdp crisis wk allies meet in lakers and form integrity group It's a lot. So from the g5. So some integrity group I mean, is it really different from the g5 now an integrity group? They say we are still open for Reconciliation leki akba corridor may be washed away by 2024 ncf alerts Protests as north gets lion share in nas new appointment crisis heat adamawa apc the stakeholders favor Robado for guba poles or guba ticket These are some of the headlines and just before we move away from that why we endorse pita'll be by ohanese Still dominating the pages And the daily process south east gets lion share of NEI tis controversial recruitment Not is not west gets lowest csos demand accountability Relative of board members among recruits Why we hired more staff? Uh, it's a lot to talk about in niger to end 33 trillionaire from not new oil field NAFs a strike kills bandit destroy camps in cantona zamphara And just before we move away from the daily trust newspaper That's also a pictorial representation as regards the share of the NEI tis Recruitment which some have tagged as controversial Well, that's it on the daily trust. We quickly turn our attention to the punch the punch says nfiu flags 150 trillionaire transactions escc tracks candidate spending Suspicious transaction up by 22.91 percent amid rising political activities EFCC intensifies surveillance on apc pdp orders Campaign funds Band gets fresh efcc nfiu directives as 2023 polls draw closer So we're still looking at the issue of corruption Apparently some people will say Vote buying this might just be another means to cop vote buying And on the punch senate Or stalemate a grieved pdp governors weigh fresh options Nigeria ricks food crisis in 2023 says imf And uh Ohanese and dorses obi says it's our turn gunmen abduct quira cleric son and demands 100 millionaire as ransom and mob lynches transport boss For killing young or your teenager The mob lynches transport boss for killing or your teenager The details quite there how foreign as middlemen capture nigerian gas market That's it on the punch. We We just turn our attention to open up or in kataria who joins us this morning on off the press on the breakfast Open up boys. Good to have you join us In fact later once more messy and good morning Nigeria Quickly let's share your thoughts on the g5 governors and the fact that they've actually formed an uh, you know A group for they call it the integrity group And this is ahead of the 2023 elections looking at the consent of you know, this g5 this governors have come together saying You can't have the president or president shall flag bear and also the chairman of a party coming from the same region Bested at the last convention And are you it's now more or less like I'm trying to look for a word for it But it still goes so to speak simply because What is then again the super to state governor of the hero of the day the hero of the convention Was taken down for a tip and that's in good words in kataria. There's a h after the a In kataria. There's a h after the a So that is just why we take in some sense, you know, it's frenetic and It will stop at nothing the issue of removing are you and over You cannot let it stop the dictatorship probably he thinks that reverse the PDT is just like reverse it where he wakes up in the morning. That's like you doing Other 22 and other 23 I will issue an order that must be obeyed. You know, this is in terms of a political day that must be watched That must be there The issue is simple for me. You know, rather than listening No matter what you say, I mean two wrongs Cannot make a miracle No matter what you say If you have to if I you must go there are procedural obligations You just have to follow those procedural obligations A breach of it Is equal to that amount to what is going on what you claim your fight to right now that will go just And unless you say you set aside The constitution of the Are you going to set aside the constitution of the dignity just because of five persons If the PDT made up of those five persons The are you you said to go is even one of the founding members of the PDT You claim you have sustained the PDT All you did was to refute the kindness the PDT did You are a local government chairman on the platform of PDT You were a chief of staff on the platform of PDT You were a minister on the platform of PDT a governor on the platform of PDT As a general local government chairman you did not contribute a government to the PDT PDT admitted you made the local government chairman Chief of staff you have no contribution to the PDT Minister you have no contribution to the PDT You only started maintaining the PDT as a governor and for socialist reasons Not that you're maintaining the party because you love the party You just spend so much money just because of your presidential ambition And today you have somebody who himself was the member of the one of the founding members of the party That's the idea himself you're talking about and you say you sustained the party You're only contributing in fact you have not given back to the party half of what the party has given to you You say you must go. Yes, okay. No problem. Are you must go? Even they are completely disagreeing with that Now why do I disagree with that? First and foremost, are you elected before at Chiquabuwaka? Are you elected as the candidate of the chairman of Chiquabuwaka? You knew you were there. Why did you go ahead to vote for Chiquabuwaka? If they had voted for Chiquabuwaka before, you would have said no Why will you bring the chairman or all the presidential candidates? If you want a you to go, one, get a position of the president or two After the election, you cannot come up with the fact of oh no You cannot have the national chairman and the president from the same group Don't forget about your address. The same thing happened You see how the national chairman and the president from the same group So why is this a major problem? You are saying this is like a black screen You are saying are you must go, knowing too well that it is almost impossible So you call up with an impossible demand Knowing too well that you cannot be met Are you not happy on that? So the issue of are you must go, it's a special reason It's a sub-tourist, it is not a genuine reason That is, the problem is that are you, if are you lose There is going to be so complex in that crisis in the TV Because if are you lose, then the man who tells you not to vote for you If you are going to come from that, from that, are you say June, which is still going to be the norm? What happened? You say a southern home was called, how would a southern home come? How? A convention must be, even if you talk about doctrine of necessity Is it the right time to talk about doctrine of necessity? Is it an opportunity to talk about doctrine of necessity? It's an opportunity to talk about doctrine of necessity You can't talk about doctrine of necessity at this point in time So it's a rational and explicable Rational and explicable, especially are you must do The truth is, and look at what he's doing You know he wanted, or he has been wanted That without him, the PDP cannot leave Now he has gone to let us endorse the ATC, let us say Governor Every day, I'll tell you whenever I have the opportunity He takes on a trick to slit at me Every day, what does he do? He makes a trick in the fact And at the same time, you're saying, oh, you want, you're ready You're open for discussion, you're open for negotiation Who is willing to? His words are purposely across to his actions You're saying something else, you're being something else Look at the damage you probably would have caused If you had that gravity task to cause it to come If you had that waste to cause it to come Look at the damage you had to cause You're coming here, you're a thief You say, you're the criminal, you're the thief Oh, he should sue you You say, oh, I think we went to which state to say Oh, some of the thieves, you're welcome from one zone You say, I think we should sort of hold it And blame that within the party And not about this private thing, I think So there's been one check in the party Just because of yourself is not the job Because this has nothing to do with equity, fairness, and justice That argument of equity, fairness, and justice And there's always an essence of written approach of what it is It is completely ridiculous Because of equity Talking of equity, it's another You first of which are himself in places of need He took over from a nation where equity, fairness, and justice He took over from a nation So what are we talking about equity, fairness, and justice? You can't afford it or you can't afford it I don't know what the PDPs do Why they have no respect for them from the party Nobody in this world is indispensable No human being Not to be your parents are indispensable Not to be your kids are indispensable So human being is in this world The party does not just stand in front of the party And let the heaven store He's already playing like a party No amount of reconciliation will let you support the party That is the truth about it And there will be no place of spiritual between which you are not equal So what is the whole essence of reconciliation and reconciliation? It's all bulk up What do I say to this one? That they are still from the party right now I want the party to go If he loses, he loses If he wins, he wins Because they need to be reconciled today I beg you There cannot be any genuine work Commitment from waste of media And the integrity group There cannot be There cannot be Okay Because there is so much buy So much beat on it Treat me because you work at the convention That's all So what are the words that the government buy because of them? The money that they do not see party That's what they do Look at the people that read it But you know what, open up on Kataria Some people The statement that you just made about or made about Him being involved in anti-party activities Some people are saying that it's not necessarily an anti-party activity Because he's actually not rightly voted for or done anything country It's a mere association And that's what it is Which everyone has a right to Let's not No, no, no, no, no, no Forget Please, please, please We don't end here in France Let's say things in the media Messi You're looking for a plus in me I come to you Or you go ahead At the start You go ahead To say if you win You're messing Public dissemination To get to the standard order Go to AIT What have you done? Or you go ahead to say For this reason Excuse me I endorse channel television What have you done? What have you done? How have you done explaining? We are very well educated So who is going to speak? We are what have you done? Rather market your own procedure You are marketing others And dozen others What have you done? That is anti-party How do you describe anti-party? That is anti-party, plain anti-party Anti-party not sure That's not the way Anti-party People are expelled from a party When they even show a peaceful day anti-party Not to talk about what you're bragging about Hopefully With that compulsion Why have to plan to party? So why has a party not taken action? Because we know that I'm having a disappointment in the lives of a people Are you out of code? And how is disappointed in that? You don't have that compulsion They're not giving me that cause To say yes They can't take decisions as leaders What is your fear? We're not going to let us about you The answer is going to do a bill of logistics What is your fear? What is your fear? Then you're going to add your star one or two other persons to that bill What is it? What is it? What is it? This major one This big cancer You're not You've not cured the cancer in your system You're going to treat malaria And what do you have to reason? That big black and blue You got your tax The national chairman You cast the debt The national chairman You criticized that people Who asked me that And you got to say You got a dust You never said that this is a go-go You're going to do logistics to What is it? That people And you're a city governor But But You think they have not done You've not been giving back to the party That's the same of what you did for me You've never been about the What is it? Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the Put a ban on the So what what happens to You know the party Every system should have a mechanism To correct itself So I'm sure that that's not also different from the party That's the people's democratic party If he's acting contrary It's a certain party That governs the party The system should purge itself Of such action Certain places are just residences Where I've got You know when a man is shopping For a massive city That's told me the So that it's a problem You believe that you Must be expected The market will be getting worse And so what you say Must be done That is the truth And it's the most thing I saw the process of the most said so now Before the convention They said I must win Even in church Maybe you said Don't under fire your father Whatever you said So you've got a spinach I must win Oh the pastor said You didn't know I'm not win Trust your person You cannot pacify that person If the person has a mind set You cannot pacify that person There's no person And that is the problem Otherwise it cannot be resolved What cannot be resolved It cannot be In reverse state He threatened That whoever goes ahead To talk about That was before the political community met The government should try this To talk about the Who will it make as governor That person will be sacked What do you do How do you call that No I'm just saying that here There isn't nothing of election This one means you chose And that is why you are certain persons In Abuja today Those besides the treacherous in Abuja today You chose It doesn't necessarily It doesn't really An election So what is good for the good Is even good for the governor But the good are not good There are no things It's not an election This one you chose And your few say It's not much This is the integrity What integrity my food How many of you don't know There are paid salaries How many of you God knows there I run in your state To the satisfaction of the Of the entities How many of them there If you ask my aunt If you ask my brother By his name is I'm not in your state But when I used to be The chief of staff What are your states Seven years old Is a disgrace Seven so many days Is a disgrace This Why did the women left right And say that Even both women Are chief of staff For that to be Women left right And said let me Women left And dropped it Don't drop it on me Okay No, I look at the states Wow No, if you look at the state What's that about In the whole country yet Swine over I'm nice on that If I am a weekend It's not going to be good Let's move away from that Subject Open up on Qatar Let's move away from that The DailySat newspaper Talks about insecurity And very interesting is that The military gets another To tame terrorists Before the elections Do we Do you think that the military Needs to get an order To act Do you need that the police Needs to get an order Before they take action Before they act According to the Peppers and reasons They were created for The military doesn't need To get a murder No, no No, it has to get a murder Because The modus operandi Of the military's pilot From the police They did not say the police They did not say it's safe With the community So they did There is a chain of command It comes from the military For example, something happened The military cannot just move me Except at the behest of the Suppressors Through the various channels The military cannot just move So that cannot just be the bias All I can do Who are constitutionally Bested with the powers To maintain law and order The military is actually A standard address Except when invited Uh When in case of insurrection Never the less These are just mere rhetorics You know If you talk of Military deaths and other They go the first time You get in another Guarani has always been another Always For one The others are going to Flouted or trivialized That is the problem And the others are flouted Or trivialized Which the knowledge of Guarani And which infinity Not in a dream Done Just like the former IG He was in the museum But I'm using that as an example The former IGP that I sent To Bono That never went to Bono But he got to Bono and let's send And months after this President went The only thing he told That the IG never slept In Bono for one night He said he was going to What a kind of wine And that was the end of it Look at the former service chief The former service chief We are Entitled by their successors Including the NSA Who said All the money They could not account for All the money they need For the purchase of Handsome and Ministers There was nothing To justify That allocation What happened? They were rewarded With an patriarchal appointment In order to insulate them From the The public criticisms Of participation Of whatever Only the president knows why And that's why people are saying He is complicit So The military When he says Get out It's not the first time The military is getting an order Nigerians are no longer Insulated in military order In order Nigerians are insulated in action So what you have is High blood pressure Decisive violence And an energy of concrete performance That is the problem That is what Nigerians are talking About So don't come and sound with him But let me commend The president's chief of general staff The prime minister of general staff Modernized jenis They may not try Compared to speed assessors The prime ministers Have this much failure Who could disgrace to the army A chief of army staff would tell him It would take 20 years To contain insolence in this country Why would it take him 40 years? When he is told about the whole money allocated As you say The NSO said it The senator said it When they said that the president Is going to show for the money I will get Nigerians are the same as him You stole the money That's the truth So how does it last? And if you hear that About the last 20 years They are right if you tell them That you are technically Psychologically Psychologically defeated The decision Who are you to see this? Who are you to see this? So I will not be trusted in the order When trusted you resolve They are not other We are sitting tired of other Every time I give it other Other than this Other than that Rob is absolutely nonsense Think Trump We want action And when we get the action You don't need to say it We will see it with our eyes That things are worse So but how then do we explain Why the military still has to get another You say it's fine That they need to get another Because of the chain of command Why are you involved? I have an issue I have an issue Why are we involved? Why are we involving the military In civil issue? That's my question If you say that They are supposed to protect And maintain their integrity And then we have the police Whose function is to maintain You know peace and order entirely I got your Let me put I got your answer And your question The police force Have been overwhelmed First and foremost That the police is underfunded There is death of personnel When I mean death I got the ROTH Of personnel And so on So the police was You know the police started suffering All that they said Why this is what you must admit to people Because under Sergari Yes Under Sergari You are surprised You have probably not gone there And that's Under that I don't know Let's go ahead Under Sergari So that they will see what the IDP Now Sergari But I'm not there for some For example I think this is also a person that Won't escape the police They said We arrested the police For becoming a threat To the military He came in and kicked out the police force In 1984 That was what he left And see then the police force has been stopped Those who have gone there Will tell you this They will arrest the police force See then the police force has been stopped So the police How do I put it Doesn't have Not that they made the personnel Are not there Are not qualified But you need the necessary tools To contain the situation The police hasn't They said they are talking about The footmen didn't do the police force So you have to bring in the army Even the police force permits it That's why in case of insurrection You can bring in the army There is no problem with that The most important thing is Concerning the situation That's what matters But even the army you're bringing in Is not sincere We brought the situation where The captain was arrested He was implicated Those who were arrested Implicated the captain was What has happened That was the end of the story It was a way to celebrate this Every day we hear of Soldiers getting involved Just to reach the boat Some soldiers are also arrested So it's not a blessing Now No problem You have bad edge That would be the argument But if the head is rotten The body would be rotten Yes you have bad edge in the port In the port The saddest tips What about the monies are looking at What happened to the monies So you are not talking about bad edge You are talking about saddest tips That are the bad edge I'm talking about the ones that are gone I'm not talking about saddest tips The ones that are gone These ones are trying I'm not telling them They are trying Open the bar So the question is Is it that we're Oblivion of the fact that You know the Nigerian police Or the police force is overwhelmed Is it that the Nigerian Our leaders don't understand the dynamics Because How do you explain the rationale That every other time You have a body that's saddled With the responsibility of ensuring Protection of life and property In a civil dispensation That's why they were created And there's also a budgetary allocation Every other time You know to the police So is it that we're Oblivion of the fact that they're overwhelmed What exactly is the issue here What are we dealing with Talking about the police What I just explained to you It is one form that was treated with medicine Funding they had issues with funding They had issues with personnel And when you don't have the equipment To combat the terrorist How do you grab out of it It's going to be It's going to be a threat in the future Because these terrorists This is what they call Like they used to equip themselves They buy certain different weapons To prosecute their illegal trade Now you have these policemen That are ill-affected And they don't have the medical strength So my question is Is it that we're not in the know Of all of the challenges Of the police force in Nigeria No, they have come out to say so But the truth is The Iraqi will not do so Because it is empty their laws The IGP cannot come up to criticize the president But retired IGPs have done so Arrasa said it Arrasa Arrasa said it They made man a world train But they don't have the equipment To prosecute And the medical strength To lax the terrorists Otherwise We're not in an elitist country Go on peacekeeping missiles They sell They go back as the best So you have to tell the pressure What is the problem we need In safety You have to incentivize them And how do you do that If a person dies How do you do it The law system should be great The solution will not be abandoned It is going there Okay There was a man Who went to pay ransom And came out and said There are three states Three states The first one that I'm talking about So that's a police The first one will tell you We have been ordered to collect some money So give us S amount It goes all over the news The second one will tell you They did not give up to it They just sent us here to die Without any equipment So let me collect what I have to collect We don't So this is the idea In public domain Even if the police say The commitment is not there That's the truth Because One of these money that we use They have got this Spend all the money Use the money to federal line their pockets And send the truth To go and die like rats At that point you must have compromise Whether you like it or not There has to be There will be compromise Because if they know That the state didn't die today The state will not be bothered If you let it be discussed Only the generalist will Contemporize it For a day or two And that is the end A civilized man like a man That's all You see the president Going to the house of whoever is There Whoever is Was killed He president himself That is the case here We have the situation where The people of Alistar died In the plane crash And the next weekend They were having a wedding The president was attending a wedding Who I really want to feel at home For such a country What? Mr. Alistar And the president was not telling The only other minister He was telling the state He didn't want anybody to be People have died here He had turned out of the country So state should live a life Use less money than that No more money than opportunity To this country Tell me one economic benefit you have For the last seven years That you see Mr. President Having good plans Tell me one economic benefit What day is the situation Is getting worse But just before You know we call it a wrap on Off the press this morning I'd like to show you thoughts on The discovery of Oil in Bauchi and Gumbay And the fact that There might just be You know exploration Of this product Should we still be excited? I mean you're excited That we're discovering And we probably might just be You know Venturing into exploration of oil In this state A little bit Time go for that God bless them Early still our mainstay A little bit reduced to diversified God bless the result of The life of the leadership Defundance, intellectual And whatever it is It will get to diversified So we still depend on oil So if you find oil And it's going to add to Our What's it called GDP It's going to also boost our Reserves our It's okay I have no problem with that Let them go ahead with it It's not a matter of finding Whenever we have a good president We are going to diversify And don't forget that If I talk now You say I'm criticizing this government so much There isn't a morass of leadership back here And so we live in a country Where we minimize the maximum And maximize the minimum That is what's going on Otherwise This shouldn't have married their nation But we find ourselves Let us wait to make a demand That is not what we can do about it Let's wait to make a demand They find out Why they are saying this Is that Niger guys that just remember That they are not the only ones To sustain the economy That's why they are saying So in other If you push out In other words They are telling the world Open up You're saying that the oil This oil well does not exist Are you saying that There's no oil really Or is this just a statement Have you seen it Have you seen it Have you seen it We have no seen it They are saying thank God They said they found You have you seen it They said they found Thank God they found Look the last week now They just had a solution on that There are They can also build refineries there Look they just want to tell us that This is not really Niger guys That's what they are trying to do This is not really Niger guys But until you start exploring Until you start exporting It is still Niger guys Because right now that oil That you say you found in that area Is not producing anything So it's still Niger guys But what difference does it make When we're not even able to refine our You know crude We still have to That's what I'm telling you That we No that's what I'm telling you Now you will come up with Niger guys About you or whatever We'll also get Look at the law that come up now The PRD The PRA Look at it Even if the price is Passing through your house You are entitled to Uh uh uh Some uh Ruralities and so on That is what I do The law is helped by the Nigerians That whatever the style Benefits from it Benefits from This is as simple as that This is as simple as that And you see this has a lot of bad leadership And that's why people keep talking about My zone, my zone, my zone Because of the monastic That has changed discrimination Of the practice in this country That's what I'm telling you About you people People are talking about This You have Jubility that you have All in Bouncing Maybe even your refineries Are not working They are not working But they are there You become Conduit Pipes Every day you pay salarites Every year you pay salarites You say You maintain But you find it Are not working You said you come on board And in less than a minute Months you have to Is that a refinery You finally start working What has happened Is a conduit pipe You find it Is a conduit pipes Nothing is going on You are ready to go in This is You are ready to throw a lot Of the administration So you are ready to live in Nothing can happen to the refineries You have to advertise it Look at the privatisation law Because many streets Are practically inside of the refineries Who is feeling who I'm going to come with permission tonight Well, thank you so much Uppinabong Kataria For being part of The breakfast this morning Off the press To be precise We appreciate your time And we look forward to sharing More of your thoughts As we progress Thank you All right then Well, that's it We take a break and when we return We'll be looking at a first major conversation Please stay with us