 Today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Chris Reed of Neil Metals. How are you today, Chris? I'm very well, Tricey. How are you? Chris, thank you so much for doing this interview with me on what zeolite is. I mean, I have Neil Metals. You've been following your lithium, nickel, titanium, vanadium, and recently Matt Boulson was talking about how you'll be recycling for a cobalt. But in particular, you just put out a news release about zeolite. Why don't you start by giving us an overview on what that news release actually means, and then you can talk to us about what zeolite is, please. Sure, Tricey. In terms of zeolite and making it, which is an engineered material out of our spodium and leach residue, it can potentially be a cost advantage. We've certainly made what's called a type A and numerous types of zeolites. So they're used in industrial purposes for catalysts, absorbance, et cetera. So we're doing the engineering studies. We've got M&W looking at the operating and capital costs for that. And we hope that that can reduce our costs of production of lithium hydroxide in time. Let me understand. This comes from lithium. Is that correct? It's actually what's left after we dissolve the lithium out of the spodium. Okay. So you have managed to find an interesting byproduct of lithium that I'm reading your news release. It says it's going to reach a 16.28 billion market by 2022. So could you tell us a little bit more, where do we get this number from, for instance? Yes. So look, we bought a marketing study. There's plenty of big multinationals in the zeolite market. Another term for them is molecular sieves. So you can actually use these minerals as molecular sieves to remove moisture from gas, to move impurities from gas, to purify oxygen, et cetera. Well is there a reason, we have so many companies everywhere splattering the playing field of our stock portfolios with the word lithium in them. But I'm pretty sure none of them are using the word zeolite or perhaps I haven't been looking for it. Can you tell me, are you just closer to production than many of your competitors or can you explain to me a little bit more, because we as shareholders are actually quite interested in this byproduct. Sure. So look, traditionally all the lithium conversion has been done up in China and they basically take the residues and give it to cement manufacturers to make concrete out of. In Australia, we're having a look at something smarter to do with the residues, examining exactly what it is and can we make a value added product to reduce our cost, because reducing our cost is pretty much the only long-term strategy that we can use in the lithium business. So we've got Matt Marion where we're making concentrates, we're looking at building a lithium refinery project to make lithium hydroxide and we've got the battery recycling and all of that is to get the highest revenue per lithium unit at the lowest cost. So what is our timeline for shareholders? When will you potentially have, do you have an off-take agreement for this commercial grade zeolite yet or what should we be looking at for production to run? Yeah, certainly next quarter we'll have the operating and capital cost estimates done by M&W Group who are German engineers that are doing the lithium refinery project studies for us. We'll put that into the market, we're generating larger samples for evaluation by zeolite producers. So look, it would run a little bit behind the current lithium hydroxide project, but only by a matter of months. So let me understand this, you found another byproduct because you're trying to get your prices down for your production of lithium to be an international global supplier and competitor. Is that correct? You found this byproduct that you can make additional revenue? Correct. Okay. And there's some other guys, there's one or two very good lithium converters that are looking to make high purity alumina out of their leach residue because it is high in aluminium. So can you just finish up by maybe telling me who some of the biggest sources are that might be sourcing commercial zeolites moving forward, just so we as investor Intel investors feel more educated on this topic? Sure, certainly the petrochemical industries use quite a lot of molecular sieves and there's molecular sieves used on pretty much every hydrometallurgical processing plant one way or another. So, you know, it's a very large market in terms of some of our, some of the producers, you're looking at zeochem, albamyl, different catalyst producers. Well Chris, as always, thank you for joining us today. Very welcome Trice, you have a great day.