 Hei, rwy'n meddwl am ddim yn gweithio y dyma'r Evertyn Show ar y Ffinch Farn. Rydyn ni'n golygu, yn gweithio ar y cyfan ei gweithio yma, John Joe Kenny. Ac mae'r cyfan ei gweithio i fynd yn Ffryd. Rydyn ni'n fydd o'n gwirio gael ei gweithio ar y Ffryd. Mae'n gweithio i fynd arno i fynd yn Ffryd, Osdart, wrth gwrs, yn beth mae'n gweithio i fynd yn gweithio. Rydyn ni'n gweithio ar y cyfan ei gweithio, ac mae'n gweithio ar y dyma. Gary Stevens, Tony Abbott, Seamus, obviously Ian Snowden, but no, he's doing a great job, I've always had confidence in him, I've watched him for many years now, playing in the 23s and the youth teams and I knew when Seamus got his injury, I was quite surprised he'd not got his chance earlier, I really mean that and as we said we're not here to embarrass him but he's now looking a Premier League player. Do you feel a Premier League player now, John Joe? Well, you know, I'm playing now a couple of games and I'm just sure they're enjoying it, you know, I like playing games and coming in to top players and testing myself. You had to be patient didn't you, to wait for your chance in the first team? Yeah, I think after the World Cup I come back into three seasons and you know I felt I could have had a bit of a sniff and you know that was a sniff but I had to be patient, keep working hard and make sure when I got my chance I was ready and shit enough to go. Were you disappointed, John Joe, that you didn't get your chance earlier? Yeah, of course, you know, because that's when I want to play, obviously I got this appointment but you know we can't let it get here because then it, you know, it comes, it comes way, some way so I just have to sort of keep positive and keep doing well and doing well. If you can't come back after a summer break during which you've won the World Cups, nods, you're not going to come back confident at all? Yeah, it must have been a magnificent feeling for him. I watched some of the games and all our boys did really, really well. It's an honour, privilege to win it but the bread and butter thing is your club football, you want to play and he's no exception, he wanted to be in this team and now he's reaping the rewards, sorry. How much did the help for the other 20s well come that you had the likes of Ciaran and Dominic Calvidlow alongside you? Yeah, well we got on well, I think, we were at each other every day for about five weeks so we had a bit of an argument but we had a great time and we were all playing and enjoying it and Ciaran was doing well, Dominic scored and Ciaran scored and I was keeping clean sheets but I was enjoying it and we had a great time. Were you aware of the swell of support back home? Yeah, you know, you get back on, you're social media and you're getting a lot of the sweets and you're getting text from, you know, the gaffer, the chairman text us and you know, it's just great to get in. That doesn't surprise you, does the chairman send in the boys a text? No, not at all, he'll watch the international scene as much as he'll watch Everton and especially when our boys are involved in it and there's that many of them as well and now that's the chairman, that sums the chairman all up. John Joe, has the fact that David Onnesworth knows you so well been really important for you? Yeah, well I've been with Onnesy now for about three or four years and you know, I've got to know each other very well, he knows my game and I know he likes so, you know, for him to come and manage it, I've just felt a lot more relaxed and he just let me go and be my game and I've enjoyed playing under him. Must be massive that for a young player, to know that the manager has got every faith in you and knows your game inside out. Yeah, it is. Onnesy's done a terrific job with the 23s, there's no question about it, they won it last year, he was usually disappointed the last game of the season against Liverpool when they were a big crowd there but overall he's done a fantastic job. The boys enjoy playing for him, they enjoy working with him every day. Onnesy gets Everton Football Club from the girls on the reception, Moa Mary to Phil Jaguilca, the captain of the club. Onnesy treats everybody exactly the same and that's why everybody seems to have a smile on their face at the minute. And of course, Onnesy played you the last game of the previous season as well, so that little taste must have helped too. Yeah, he could have come back off on loan and Onnesy got the job and for the last game I think it was Joe Royal. So when he, you know, he gave me the nod that I was going to come on and I didn't think I was going to come on that early, so he fed me. You know, I want to come on, he just, again, just said just go and be yourself and when he said that I was just going to enjoy it and really enjoyed that day. How much of the loan spell has helped? Yeah, because you've become more of a man, you know, I was living in Oxford and far away from home and you've got to sort of stand on your own two feet, so I think from that I've just learned to grow up a little bit more. Does it's a massive thing for these young lads to go out on loan? The playing in front of paying public, they're under pressure from the crowd if they make a mistake and that's how you grow up quickly on a football field. It's all right, playing 23s and new team football and getting a pat on the back here and there and the parents are there. But when you're actually going out there and it means business, you're playing three points, you're playing for league position and you're playing for that paying crowd, there's a lot more pressure on it then. Absolutely. How much have you enjoyed playing behind Aaron Lennon because he's come back into the side since Sunday took over and he too has done very well? Yeah, as you say, as I was being brilliant, I think it started season, it was me and him on Saturday morning doing a bit of running and trying to keep fit. So, you know, we've come back in and it's really unbelievable. I think as a winger, you know, a lot of wingers do sort of cheapo whereas I know we're going to come back and he's going to help me and he's done brilliant in the game and played at the top level. So, to have him in front of me, it's just been a lot more easy for me. You need a partner, don't you, to give it a right back? I remember when I first got to right back, I had Trevor Steven in front of me who was unbelievable, fantastic, covering me and letting me go on overlap seed filling for me. And then when Trevor left, Pat Nevin came, who was a great attacking player but no defence minded at all. I remember playing against John Barnes with Trevor Stevens, he hardly had a kick and then we played at Anfield and Pat Nevin were in front of me. He must have come at me first half 18 times, one-on-one. I ended up grabbing Pat Nevin, I said get back here and help me by the way. But it is, it's so important and Aaron's that kind of player. He'll track back and the workers are there and it showed when he tracks the hard back, it must have been 60 yards. I've got a magnificent round of applause from our away fans. That's just hard work in helping the team mates. I suppose you can attack with more confidence as well knowing that somebody's there to watch you back. That's hard work. If I go forward, I know as is there for me to fill in and sit vice versa really. I like as is to go forward a bit more than me cos it's gaming. But as I say, as I'm 1v1 with people, I know as is there to help me out. Let's keep on track with the right back theme here on this week's Everton Show. Let's hear now from Cucko Martina. He answers our questions that always begin my first. I remember that watching Brazil was, I think, the World Cup. They won the World Cup, I think. With all the great players, of course. Spain, Loretta de Mar. Family or friends? Family. I was young. Ronaldo, the real Ronaldo. I think it was Bob Marley. I don't know how to say it. You know, to give the people the newspaper, how do you say that? Paperboy? Paperboy. Yeah? Yeah, Southampton. It's horrible. It was like a Dutch song. Right. Did it go down well? Yeah, a little bit. I think there was a moment that I came in a week, I think, four times late. Right, at school? No, it was at Rosendale. It's not Southampton at St Mary's at the weekend and the incentive is there for the toffees. If we beat Southampton, we go above them and we've got to start thinking like that, haven't we? We've got to start moving up the table. Yeah, we have. We've got an important win against Watford. At the end, former player Tom Cleverly missed the penalty, but then went to Crystal Palace, who are not bottom of the table material. They will improve the league position over the next few months and got a 2-2 draw. So that's positive results and there's nothing that really worries me about Southampton. I watched him, the I-Likes against Liverpool who absolutely destroyed him, to be honest. Could have been a lot more. So I don't fear Southampton. All right, they're at home and they're all difficult games. I'm not far away from that, but I think the boys will have got a little bit of confidence from the last two performances and I think they can go and get a result down at St Mary's. The night against Watford was amazing. I'm sure it's one of the most amazing nights of your young career so far and it's not dry that the boys take immediate confidence from that moving on to the next game against Palace. Yeah, I think we had two really. I think we were 2-0 down and we got a back to win 3-2. I think it just shows the team spirit and again with Unzi, he wouldn't let the lad's head go down and it just shows by getting back to getting the 2-2 then getting the last minute pen and the lad's made up with it. Fans were fantastic, weren't they? A good isn't it? Yeah, it was one of the best nights I've had a good isn't it? Playing there and I've always wanted to play in them type of nights and I was made up to playing that night and it was a great experience for me. You're getting recognised more and more about the city these days, John. You've since you've been in the first team frame. Yeah, you get the other one or two, but I just try and stay at home a lot and just focus on the games because you know, they're coming to you fast and you know, it's Sunday, Thursday, not most days, so you need to keep fresh and prepare for the next game. And that's just about it for Part 1 of this week's Everton Show. My thanks to John Joe Kenny for joining us in Part 2. Snodd and I will be joined by our under-18s coach Paul Tate and we'll also hear from Jordan Pickford. Welcome back to Part 2. Ian Snowden and I are joined by Paul Tate our under-18s coach here at USM Finch Farming. Paul, you join us with the under-18s in a really rich vein of form. You must be thrilled with the way the boys are performing. Yeah, really happy with the form at the moment. A lot of work has been going on throughout the week and the coaching sessions is paying off on match days at the moment. Everybody gets the goodness and then says, how did the 18s get on? Straight away, yeah. It's important for any age, anybody, any team that wears that haven't crest, everybody wants to know about and how well they're doing. I just enjoy that most of the coaches that are at Everton belong at Everton, they want at Everton to win. We've got Frannie Jeffers, we've got John Ebro, we've got John Doolan, who's obviously moved on. Tate, I remember him being an apprentice when I was a pro-e and I remember giving him a bit of a stick as well. But no, it's so important that we've got Everton represented as coaches to show them youngsters the right way. And a great win against Newcastle where the boys left it late but showed the character to keep going until they got that winning goal. Yeah, that was the pleasing thing. We dominated the first half but we didn't quite score enough goals. Newcastle scored a good goal against us. It was a tough game setting off. Newcastle are struggling at the bottom but they really put a good performance in. For Dave Watson who was the manager there and Kevin Richardson who was his assistant. So they had them fired up because obviously they were playing against us. But the lads kept going and kept trying to play the way that we were. We were playing in the first half and they got the goal at the end which was really pleasing. Anthony Gordon knows where the rest of the net is today. Yes, he does. He's on 11 league goals this season so he's doing really well. He plays just off the front. He's number nine. All that we can play up there because he's got pace. He can run in behind as well as come and get at the feet. And he knows where the goal is obviously. It is all about development at that age starts but we do like to see Everton teams win and game management and winning football matches is surely all part and parcel of that development. Yes it is because in the long run what you're striving for is to get into that first team. Whether it may be starting at under 16, under 18 level then you progress to the under 23 level and then you want to... So yes it's important to know how Everton wants play at that age group and as I say it's important that the players know the Everton way and what is the Everton way? The Everton way is determination, work hard, put a shift in and win football games and it's as easy as that. And confidence I suppose is just as vital at your age group as it is with the first team. John Joe was telling us in part one of this week's programme just how confidence is on the up with the first team and it must be running through the veins of your boys at the moment. It is. Once you get that momentum of a few wins under that belt and Snodd will tell you, mind you I can't remember the last time he was in the team that one. Once you get that momentum under the belt it flows through them and everything seems easy to them when you've got the confidence. One Everton player who must be full of confidence himself at the moment in the senior squad is of course Jordan Pickford who recently made his England debut at Wembley. We caught up with Jordan earlier this week. With his being in the system since 16 through 21 it was nice to finally have the pathway to get to the seniors and finally got the opportunity and I had a good game so please. Does it give you more confidence being able to call yourself an England player? No, I think I need a kick on from that. I think only having one cap is not enough. I think I need to try and get as many caps as I can and that's when you say I've made it for England but one cap it's nice and you've got to keep working hard for Everton then hopefully get the rewards for England. You kept a clean sheet there on your England debut. You kept a clean sheet on your Everton debut as well and it's been a fine start for you personally for the club, hasn't it? Yeah, it's been good. It's been a good change of life for me coming down here moving away from family and stuff. So me and my girlfriend came down and it's been great different life but really thriving on it really and really enjoying myself here at the moment. Results haven't been ideal but the last two results in the prem being positive 4.6 and we take momentum into the next game for that. Have you had any stand out moments so far? I could think off the top of our head there was a great save from Shaquiri on the first day, the penalty saving split. There's been a few. Yeah, a win, a clean sheet. That's what makes me happy really. Long as getting over that line with three points really. I would like to see I just got to keep performing week in, week out and being consistent. Paul, let's speak a little bit more about your football career your journey from being an Everton apprentice to being an Everton coach. When did you first come to Everton because obviously from the accent you're a North East boy. Yeah, I played for Walsham Boys Club in the North East which was a well-known boys club up there and I was at Newcastle at the time as a schoolboy and Everton approached me to say if I wanted to come on trial that was when I was 14. I've basically been here ever since you couldn't get rid of me. I'd done a scholarship which was a YTS scheme then moved down at 16 and played till I was 19 got released at 19 off Mike Walker because I wasn't big or strong enough to be in and around his first team at the time. Thankfully we've moved on in youth development we wouldn't release any boys on that premise now. And then had to drop down the divisions and try and work my way back into professional football I felt I could still do a job in the pro game but I took a step back into non-league and then luckily Dario Groli took a chance on us as a crew and I was quickly playing championship football and your desire has probably summed up by the fact that you moved away from the comforts of your own region in the north-east the family homes have come down to me as he said when you were a very young boy that was a big step. I felt I needed to come away from the environment I was in and the environment that was in place at the time I felt it would give us a really good chance of being a player and luckily it did, it worked out in the end. When did you start thinking about coaching and how did you start to think about your post-playing career? Very early, once I dropped out at 21 from Wigan, got a free transfer from Wigan so I had two free transfers in three years so I'm thinking well what am I going to do next and I started coaching school up in McGull so that was my first taste of coaching that was at 21 albeit with amateur players. Everybody at the academy must be delighted with the progress made by our part one guest John Joe Kenner like Tom Davis as well Benny Benningamy. It's great that I keep emphasising that they're getting good coaching in the area there's many good players that are still coaching these young boys and they're showing the right way that they're growing up with respect they treat the staff around the place very well and I think that's so important to keep the feet on the ground Tom Davis has become a soup star last season with the goal against Man City look at me, Ben is a grounded lad John Joe is a grounded lad and that's the experience they're getting early doors from being coached at a young age It's not to say in the culture that we have here it's almost ingrained in the boys from a young age not to get above that station and the lads you mentioned there thinking back to when they were young players coming through it's the law of young players but even the age 14, 15 that's good people and the parents are fantastic people as well who supported them all the way through You must really enjoy watching Benny Binning play for the first single but you know really really well Fantastic, that's one of the best parts of the job of being a youth coach isn't it when they run out to cut us in it's fantastic to see them playing again, mentioning the parents I sit by their parents a lot to see them I remember Tom Davis' mum and dad just sat a few seats along from them it was just an unbelievable feeling Let's just see some go-laction now from another team down here at USM Finch Farms Nod, Deventon Ladies who have stuttered a little bit in WSL1, understandably they got promoted last season what they're doing well in the continental cup and they beat Oxford United 4-0 Great result for them, they're doing well in the cup really are, the league's been a bit difficult as you said they got promotioned as and there's some good teams in that top league coming back to confidence again Yeah it does, throughout the club at the minute, confidence let's hope it grows everywhere with the ladies as well I've talked to a couple of the girls at lunch times, they're so enjoying the full-time training here and they will get better there's no question about it let's hope that the league performance has improved, the results improve and let them take that cup football into the league there's a big FA Youth Cup tie good at some park coming up against Ipswich Town looking forward to that one Yeah, really looking forward to it we're starting the preparation now so we'll use the next couple of league games as preparation for the youth cup How much of a priority is the FA Youth Cup? I think over the years we haven't taken it as a massive priority that we've won it because we're always looking at the next step the job is not to produce teams for the first team, the lads that you've just been talking about so that's always the main focus but you're trying to tell them under 18 lads in the youth cup that we don't want to win it it's just not going to happen so we go into the tournament we want to win the tournament without a shadow of a doubt, we all want to win it I was at Doncast to me we drew Newcastle we put Newcastle and wow, it's great the FA Youth Cup, you can't wait because the FA Cup for the first team players you're wanting to know and we've drawn it, switching, it will be at Goodison Park so them lads will be nervous going out onto Goodison Park and playing but it's up to him and his other coaching staff to just relax them and say look alright, it's at Goodison Park let's just go out and play as normal game go out and enjoy it but most importantly go out and win the game and get into the next round How easy will that be? Play the game not the occasion as they say Yeah, it sounds easy but it doesn't when you're 16 or 17 we're trying to get a training session there before we go out and play I'll have to speak to the ground staff I'll have to bubble that You've no chance with Bob by the way We wish the boys well It's Everton vs Ipswich Town in the FA Youth Cup at Goodison Park we'd love to see as many toffees at Goodison Park as possible to cheer the lads on and that's just about it for this week's programme my thanks to Ian Snowden and to our under 18s coach Paul Tate do join us again in 7 days time for another Everton show You've been watching the Everton show on YouTube Thank you very much indeed for joining us I hope you've enjoyed it, I'm sure you have Don't forget to subscribe and that way you catch every single future episode