 Ddod o'r bod yn cyflawni, yn gweithio i City Hall. Defnyddwch yn ymdeithasol. Felly, ddweud beth. Felly, defnyddwch yn fyr entrance. Wel iawn, yw'n dweud eich bod yn ymddi. Dweud i'n credu i'n gwneud o'r ent Chromad Gwylol, a'n ei wneud â'r gweithwyr, ac y gallwn gwneud ymddi'r hynny yn ddechrau yma, os gyd yn ni'n meddwl yn yw sawl i ddefnyddi. Daergyrchu'r cyflawni'n ddechrau, a'r eich ddefnyddi felly mae'r byw ymddyngen i'r ymddynt, mae'r byw'r byw, yn ymddynt yn ymddynt. Mae'n mynd i'n fwy o'r llun o'n ddiweddau hynny, mae'n hawddio'n ffiannig oherwydd roedd o'r byw 100 yn gweithio oherwydd oedd y gweithio cymdeithasol, a'r byw yn ymgyrchu o'r byw, a'r byw yn ymgyrch i'r rhan o'r rhan oherwydd a'r byw yn ond yn y cyfrifio oherwydd o'r byw ymgyrch cymdeithio, Maen nhw'n dechrau'r ffemol yn ysgol. Rwy'n sgwfodol, a'r fynol. Ieithaf ymweld yr unrhyw hyn o'r iawn. Yn gyffredig yw'n ddiddordeb ar y cyfrygiadau, a gwnaeth ymddeallu'n ddefnyddio'n gwych ar y byd. Wrth gwrs, rwy'n wedi'u gwelio'n gwybod yng Nghymru. Yn gyfrygiadau, wrth gwrs, y Prime Minister yw Canada. Yn gwrs, y Prime Minister yw New Zealand. Yn ymddir wrth gwrs? Yn gyfrygiadau? Wel, rhai'n gweithio'n gweithio'r wych o London. Mae y Prif Weinidog yw Cadwyr Justin Trudeau. Rydyn ni'n gweithio gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n New Zealand. Rhaid i'n ei fod yn ymhwyno'r gweithio, rhaid i'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio. Yn y bwysig y parlyme ddaig, wyddwch unwaith arhoron, mewn gweld, y ffyrdd i gynnwys i'r hanfodol. Sneiddiwch chi, gallwn ni? Yn y wneud, mae'r holleg, yw ddigon o ddawd pedwch chi, a ddwy ddiwch chi'n mwy ffordd a ffraith i ddiwch arno ddaid. Fodd yna arno, mae'n deall gyda'n cwestiynau gyda'r holleg, mae'n gweithiol, mae'n gweithio arnynt o'r hwn cymrydau gyda'r holleg o'r holleg derbyn. Can I just check we've got Heartland's High here? Oh, that wasn't loud enough. I don't think they're here. Well, okay then. Are Defford Green here? They might be here. Saiby's and St Olive's? They're Defford here. So I'm going to ask the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin, to say a few words. And then we're going to ask Jacinda, the Prime Minister of New Zealand to say a few words. And then we're going to open it up. Is that okay? Justin, over to you. One of the great things about this job is an opportunity to sit down and meet with a huge range of people with different backgrounds. My favorite thing to do is to meet with young people because the way you're asking questions about everything, the way you're challenging us, society to think differently, to evolve, to change, to be challenged is super important in politics, but in just about every area. As we're going through a time of tremendous change, getting young people to realize that you are not unlike what people tell you, the leaders of tomorrow, you're already leaders today. And what you do today and the actions you take right now have a deep, deep impact. And one of the things that we're going to talk about today, which is so important, is we all have important voices to raise every single one of us. And on the issue of feminism, obviously that means making sure that girls are speaking loud and proud. But it also means that men have to be part of the solution. Guys need to speak up. Be proud of saying that, yes, we are feminists because we know that men and women need to be equal. And there's a lot of work to do. That's what we have to do together. And that's why I'm so glad to be here to hear your questions. Before I introduce Jacinda, can I just say this? There are many claims to fame she has, but the biggest thing that I'm most proud of is she spent two and a half years living in London. So we have a Londoner who's the Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern. Thank you, Sadig. I got nervous when you said biggest claim to fame because I immediately think about my front back when anyone makes a reference like that. It's really wonderful to be here with you today. And I really want to leave time for questions. I want to hear from you what you're interested in hearing from us about. But one thing I did want to say was congratulations on celebrating 100 years of women's suffrage. In New Zealand, we're celebrating 125 years of women's suffrage. And I was about to say, despite being really proud of that, I think we always have to be careful that we're not complacent. Even having a female Prime Minister does not mean that you have achieved equality. As long as we have a gender pay gap, as long as we have women who are overrepresented and low paid work, as long as we have women who are more likely to experience domestic violence, then there is a lot of work to do. And so for me the issue of equality spans across so many areas and so I'm so pleased to know that there is no complacency here because we do need to make sure that we just keep working to make things better and better. So that in the future, your children, my children, these things won't be child. If I say children plural, part gets very nervous. So that things will be better for that next generation than they even are now. So thank you for being so interested in this really important topic. So both Justin and Justin do want to make long speeches and they've got no idea what questions you've got to ask. So things across these works. So I've got the first three names I've got down here, just the names. I've not got the questions. So the first round we're going to do Nabila first from Heartlands High, then Dixie Lee from Dethford Green and then Ty Ho from St Saviors. So Nabila first, where's Nabila? Let the mic come over to you. I think Nabila's teacher today is about to give her a cup before she asks the question. Nabila, first question. Who are your female role models? Great, first question. Dixie Lee, where's Dixie Lee? OK, just wait for the mic behind you. What advice would you give to a girl like me looking to become Prime Minister? Dixie Lee, I'm glad you said Prime Minister, not Mayor. Ty Ho, just pass it back to Ty Ho, yeah. Hi, my question is about the gender stereotyping as we grow up and people say that men can only do certain things and women can only do certain things and how can we make sure that girls and boys get the same opportunities? Do you want to kick things up and then we'll come to just enough? Yeah, I'll try and cover all of those at once. My answer to my role model is really cheesy, but it's true. My mother is a huge role model to me and I think probably we always draw inspiration from the people who are closest to us but the thing that really has guided me through my life are the values that I have and the principles that are really important to me and I learnt them from my parents. Particularly I learnt kindness and generosity from my mother. My mother was always, when I was growing up she ran my school cafeteria which was really handy come lunchtime but she made a lot of sacrifices to make sure she was around for me and my sister. The principles and values she taught me about looking out for one another to always the kind of person who would be the first to take a lasagna to someone who needed one she taught me probably the principle that guides me in the leadership role I have every single day. So yes, we all have our heroes, people we may not ever meet but the ones in our everyday lives you can learn really important lessons from too. Advice to someone who wants to be a Prime Minister? Great question. You know I've got a very quick question for all of you. Who's got a dream job in mind? Dream job. Something you absolutely believe would be the best thing in the world to do if you could do it. Dream job. Okay, is it the same thing as what you think you're going to do? Now when I do this back home I'm always surprised at the number of hands that come down that the thing that you would love to do most in the world might not be the thing that you actually think you're going to end up doing. So my advice to anyone who wants to be a Prime Minister? Never give up on believing that you can do it. Because the biggest barrier I think to particularly for women speaking in a general assumption but I think the biggest barrier for us achieving some of our goals is our own belief that we can't. Plenty of people are going to put barriers up for you. You don't need to be one of them so just keep that self-belief because there are a lot of people out there that you'd admire a lot who probably have struggled with confidence themselves that I was one of them. Can I just ask you, when did you decide you wanted to be Prime Minister? I didn't. Is it for the reasons you've said? I've never saw myself being able to take on such a role. I've always been really open about that. It's just something that I thought was just something others did. I absolutely believed I could do it. Just never saw myself doing the role. Justin. I'm going to start with the last question. The way we raise our kids on gender stereotyping, how we show you guys that you can do anything. For me I spent a lot of years as a youth advocate and as I got older and older and still tried to talk about youth I'd project myself back but now I'm a dad and when I think about youth I look at my kids and I project them forward. One of the things that I've realized and I've talked about a lot is making sure that I raise my daughter to understand that she can do absolutely anything, that there should be no barriers, that she should have all the opportunities in the world. My wife, Sophie, who's actually one of my role models and inspirations as a woman, there's no question about it, pointed out to me that it's great that you're raising your daughter to be a feminist and to think about gender equality and know that she can do anything but you've got to raise your sons as well to be feminists and to support their sister and girls around the world to be able to know that they can do everything and how we change mindsets not just among women but around men and include men in the conversational women's equality. If you think about it, we're in a situation where men are unfairly given more opportunities, more power, more weight to what they say and do because we have an imbalance in our society. Well, the men have to be encouraged and brought along to use that extra power and weight we give them to be part of making equality happen, to be part of the solution. Men need to be allies and partners and supporters in the fight for equality because it ends up helping us all and the question about becoming PM is absolutely, totally support. Everything just into said and I think the path towards politics as you think about it, there's not one path that will lead you towards politics. You don't say, okay, I've got to study in school and go into political science and then start working on a political campaign and that's a path and some people do it but anything that charges you up and gets you passionate and gets you connecting with people and creating people together and creating actions and impacts in the world is a path towards political activity and eventually possibly politics if you still want to do that. So be open to having a political impact as an active, engaged citizen and you'll be amazed with how far that brings you and the last comment is about needing to have more women wanting to become prime minister able to become prime minister able to be successful in politics and one of the things that we were able to do in Canada was appoint a gender balanced cabinet 50% men, 50% women in our government but in order to do that I had to spend a few years trying to convince extraordinary women across Canada to step forward into politics and you really notice when you're asking great people and I ask great people all the backgrounds to come join me and step up into politics when you ask a guy if he wants to go into politics if he'll step forward into politics his first question is usually something like why did it take you so long to ask me there's this, oh great I'm good, I'm happy to do it if you ask a woman if she wants to come into politics there's usually a pause but what Jacinda said is really do you think I'm good enough do you think I have enough capacity and you meet these people with extraordinary CVs extraordinary backgrounds but there is a system that keeps us doubting or keeps women doubting that they can succeed and we really have to deliberately break down the barriers out there but also the barriers in mindsets that happen and having conversations like this are a big part of it we're going to look for the next round so in our cabinet there are actually very few women in the cabinet when Justin became prime minister in 2015 the first cabinet he appointed had half who were women and when Justin was asked the question what was your answer Justin well I said I said it was 2015 why is it important to have half women, half men in government because it's a ridiculous question so I said because it is because it's time that we stopped realizing that parity is some far off thing we have to reach to it's something we have to take concrete actions towards right now and the best thing about the gender balance cabinet isn't the symbol isn't the indication that it can be done or should be done it's actually the kind of conversations of the debates we have and the solutions we put forward which are better because we have a more diverse group of people making that decision and that's the fundamental thing ok the next round we've got from Deffford Green School Padrick, can somebody get the mic to Padrick so over here in front of the road, chat here and the second question is going to be to Kelly Parra from St Savi's, where's Kelly ok Kelly's in the back and the third one is from Jamie McCarran Gammes from Heartlands High where's Jamie, ok you first over to you do you support lowering the age at which I can vote 16 and why do you think it is important ok it's currently 18 in the UK so Kelly how can we help tackle gender inequality great question and the third question is from Jamie what does being a feminist mean to you great question I'll ask Justin to go first and let Justin to respond second so Justin there's a long conversation in Canada about how we get more young people to vote because over the past years there was a real decline in young people taking an interest in politics and a lot of people said let's lower the voting age we'll make voting mandatory like it is in some countries different things we can do to get young people to vote and I took a slightly different perspective and I said instead of trying to address the symptoms of the problems of young people not voting let's try and address the root cause why are young people not voting or not stepping up into politics because I knew from the work that I've been doing with young people that it wasn't because they didn't care about politics or because they were cynical or because they're apathetic about the world and if there was apathy and frustration it was never because they don't care about the world it was very much about feeling that you're not given the tools to actually have an impact in the world you want to change and therefore there's frustration so we really focused on bringing young people into the conversation empowering them in politics and not just as volunteers and envelopes stuffers but actually part of the conversation to talk about how we're going to improve our society for the long term how we're going to take care of the big long term issues that young people are most focused on whether it's the future of technology or the environment or human rights or Canada in the world these were all issues that mattered in a big way that young people wanted to talk about rather than a specific change to a tax system that might or might not make a big impact in the world so being bold enough to have big conversations brought young people in in a way that we turned around and increased youth voting without having to lower the voting age although we do have a great program in Canada where high school students who aren't voting age yet have fully organized mock elections so they can get used to the idea of voting even though their votes don't count they get into the political process and start thinking about it in a way that leaves them ready to do it when they turn 18 What about your views in New Zealand? Is 18 in New Zealand? We've had a turnout issue for our younger voters as well but actually we've had a turnout issue for younger voters for a number of years it's not new but we do worry about it because it means that there's underrepresentation that young people are not having their voice heard and two things I would say on that I agree with Justin that one of the issues that as I perceive it in New Zealand is we have this skate park syndrome go out and find out what young people feel about building skate parks in their local community because surely that's what young people care about When I go into schools and it's one of my favorite things to do and talk about the issues that young people are interested in talking about it is more often than not things like child poverty inequality climate change the big issues that actually we're grappling with in government but actually probably not doing enough to talk about is to demonstrate that we're taking the action that young people really want us to take so why would a young person vote if they don't see anything from their representatives or their candidates that speak to the things they care about so that's one thing actually talking about those issues that really matter is the first thing and the second thing though is I think we would be wrong to assume that voting is the only way that people have power probably one of my biggest group of people who write to me will be children at primary school I get bundles and bundles of letters from children in fact we had to bring in someone to help me especially with the letters that I get from children which I find wonderful because it means at the end of a long usually after I come from where's this in New Zealand question time it's very shouty and it's very robust and so every time I'm in question time I'll be answering a lot of questions from the opposition one of the things I do is I take down my folder of children's correspondence down to the debating chamber so when I'm down with all the shouty questions I look at pictures and drawings from children and they're not just sending me happy smiley phases they are most often sending me their worries in the world turtles and straws up turtles noses plastic bags in the sea they care deeply about issues that lots of people talk about would be wrong to think children and young people don't now those letters have an impact on me I'm talking about them now because I see them so often there is power in petitions there is power in letters and all of those have no age barrier in my country a 16 year old could take a petition to parliament and force parliament to consider it you don't have to vote to have power and so for me it's about making sure that you have knowledge about the tools that you have in our system to make change and a question both of you are prime ministers and you've got a huge power how do we fight gender inequality a big issue we started to put a gender lens on just about everything we do and that is recognising that the policy a government puts forward has a different impact on men than it does on women you also think about intersectionality and a woman who is from a visible minority you get layers of discrimination that can add up and we have to be really sensitive to all the challenges that hit people differently and when you start thinking about the impact of everything you do as a government with a diversity lens with a gender lens you suddenly come up with solutions that aren't just better or more popular they are usually smarter than we've made that gender equality is not just a societal or moral issue it's actually a cold heart economic issue giving a full half of the population full opportunities to contribute, to lead to achieve their fullest potential is the only way a society as a whole can achieve its potential so making sure we're doing things that yes are within the traditional gender equality issues of domestic violence or childcare issues like that yes that's important but it's also thinking about just about everything else with that gender lens construction projects in rural areas if you're building a highway through a rural area well you have to think you're going to be sending a whole bunch of mostly men construction workers to far away towns and communities that's going to have an impact on that community around violence and gender issues we also have to think about how we make sure that through proactive pay legislation women get paid the same as men for similar jobs Canada's done a lot with the gender balanced cabinet with a gender budget that we put forward our entire national budget had a gender lens on it in 2018 just a few months ago but when you actually look at the numbers we're way down in terms of women in Parliament we're way down in terms of women in boards and we're actually fairly low in terms of actual gender equality in terms of the workplace so we recognize that there's some things we're talking about really well but there's other things we're working on but we still got a really long way to go and that comment that Jacinda made about complacency and knowing that we have to challenge ourselves to do better and constantly think about it is the only way we close the gaps around gender equality Jacinda, another question what feminism means to you as well What feminism means to me who believes in equality who believes in equality you are all feminists because for me that is at its most simple that is what feminism is it's just that simple idea of fairness now lots of stereotypes hang off that word lots of them, we were talking about them when you had such good insights into all of the stereotypes that hang off that one word and that comes with a word that has so much history waves of history different movements at different times but if you drill it all back down and if you just simplify it feminism is about fairness and equality now that means that actually the work that we have to do sits across a whole lot of areas one of the things I sometimes get frustrated by is this idea that the only markers we have are women's representation we've had almost 40% women in our New Zealand parliament it's the highest we've had ever we right now have a female governor general I'm a female obviously prime minister a female chief justice does it mean our work is done no because again as I say the measures that matter a lot to me about the ones in everyday life and the experience that women have in the workplace in everyday life and that isn't just up to politicians that's up to all of us so that's also why feminism for me is about everybody it's about men, it's about women it's about making sure that everyone no matter which workplace they're in which school they're in actually just gets a fair go and we just try and weed out some of those some of those very old fashion behaviours we're going to move on to the next round of questions we've got Zaryll Adiola and Cathian we're Zaryll from Heartlands I would like to know what does equality mean to you and how can it be represented in society say that again what is equality mean to you and how can it be represented in society great and Adiola I ask one to say congratulations on your pregnancy and my question is how do you deal with prejudice against women in politics that's for you Cathian from Dapford Green my question is what should be done about the gender pay gap and what are you doing about it great questions I'll start on the gender pay gap at the moment we have legislation that we're working on to make sure that actually we give a mechanism for people to close close the gender to make sure that we can address some of our pay equity issues so we're doing it through a couple of ways but the law is one of them but I'll leave Justin to pick up a bit more on that one as well we actually just not long had a landmark court case where home care workers people who looked after the elderly and really challenged the idea that they were being paid fairly and the court found in their favour and it's meant a massive difference and pay increase for those predominantly women who work as home care workers so that's the kind of work we're trying to do but without you having to go through the courts to achieve it on the issues inequality or issues I've faced in politics I'm lucky I'm the third female Prime Minister in my country we're on our third that's really remarkable when you think about some of our other other countries and some who are just having their first we're on our third and I have to say that those women really paved away for me they've made a huge difference in the kind of experience that I'm now having in leadership having said that probably I had just as many difficult moments when I was outside of politics as I do in I still remember in one of my really early jobs my first boss who was a woman told me I would never get promoted unless I cut my hair I haven't cut my hair since I have to say I'm like Sampson now I've had this almost on principle because she thought I didn't look serious and that no one would ever take me seriously as a woman if I had long hair I know that's a really trivial little example but actually yes in politics I do experience bits of it here and there but I have a lot of people who come in and defend when it happens when I was in that workplace there was no one else but me to take it on by myself and that was probably harder in a lot of ways and so that's why I'm really conscious that even if we look like we're weeding it out in the high places we've got to think about the other workplaces too we've got to look out for one another in those workplaces and so perhaps then my experience isn't quite as bad as others I've seen and one final thing I'll say is that when I was elected to be the leader of the Labour Party in New Zealand I was the youngest member of that caucus and I was a woman and all the MPs in my team backed me so having a great team around you really makes a difference too Crocking on so Justin on the gender pay gap I think it's important as well that we recognize what the gender pay gap is it's not if you go to a bank and there's two bank tellers in front of you and one's a man, one's a woman that they might make a different salary although if they're not making the same salary there's a problem there for the same seniority, same years of experience same job it's in different types of jobs I mean Jacinda talked about home care workers that are more predominantly women but that might be the same amount of training the same kind of challenging job as a job in being a building engineer or a more custodial services or something that is more male dominated so it's looking at different types of jobs and seeing if this one is more of a women dominated job and that one's more of a male dominated job and they have about the same degree of difficulty and that's sort of the challenge or degree of quality or value making sure that what happens right now is that the women's jobs are usually underpaid that you raise the salaries of those women's jobs so that it's fair across the board and that's a fairly complicated thing to do within society we're doing it within our public service we're also putting forward legislation that we're working on, we should compare notes on how we're doing it and that's something actually that comes a little more easy because larger companies are now much more computer savvy and the HR departments are all plugged in in terms of salaries you can actually have more transparency on who's getting paid what and constantly check and its pay equity is not about just bringing in a law and saying ok you have to adjust everything it's about iterating and checking in every few years to make sure that you're doing better every time it's not an end it's a process and doing that is going to be really really important around women in politics and prejudice we're going through in politics in Canada and around the world the same kinds of things that are happening in Hollywood in banking industry in so many different industries which is the me too movement a sense of times up that harassment in the workplace is unacceptable in any place in any way and starting with a position of support and belief for anyone who comes forward with a story of harassment seems like a simple thing but it's really really important when usually a woman comes forward with a story of being harassed intimidated or sexually assaulted or harassed at work these we have to as a society do a much better job of believing and supporting and moving forward with them in that there's still a huge amount of stigma and challenge and we have to bring that more into the open and deal with it through processes that are actually supportive and fair and the old boys club and the idea that oh we're going to brush it under the rug that we have to stop and we've done significant strides in Parliament but there are huge challenges because harassment and sexual assault is usually if not always about power dynamics as well and politics is a hugely hierarchical structure with massive power dynamics and young volunteers and people who are in danger of losing their job for random reasons there's a huge amount of work we all have to do but it starts with all of us standing up clearly and strongly together and saying this behaviour is unacceptable and it's going to stop and that's what we need your generation to understand and be part of pushing the change because some older generations still don't get it somebody at the back telling me which means time which must mean time is up can I say a couple of things first I want you to send it and have just 30 seconds each just to wind up and say the final words because they've both got really incredibly busy diaries there are 53 separate heads of government here in London they've got meetings with some of them they've got meetings with the Royal Family with the Prime Minister of the Cabinet and they've made time to come and listen to and speak to young Londoners so before I ask Jacinda and Justin to say a few words can I ask us to show our London appreciation to the Prime Minister of New Zealand and the Prime Minister of Canada Justin and Jacinda when they finish we're going to jump down hopefully all of us are going to jump down and have a photograph I'm going to take a team photograph which we'll send to you so just send over to you I'm going to be really quick I just wanted to say thank you for caring thank you for caring about issues that are really important no matter where you live in the world and I actually say the same thing that Justin says quite often I get frustrated by this leaders of tomorrow issue no one knows what it is to be a 15, 16, 17 year old in 2018 living in London but you do your experience is unique your views therefore are important so never let anyone tell you that they are not I first joined a political movement at 17 because I wanted to change the world I started by delivering leaflets you can start with anything and you'll never know where that journey will take you so don't let anyone diminish the importance of your opinions and finally you live in an amazing city I loved living in London I lived in Brixton and Vauxhall when I last lived in London I loved being here you have a lot to be proud of in your city diversity is one of them but your mayor is pretty cool as well so thanks for having us Justin my message is very similar to Jacinda you matter what you do matters and equality obviously is something that matters to all of us the idea of fairness is something that's ingrained in humans we want the world to be fair even though in so many ways it's not in the ways that we can make it fairer your words matter your actions matter if you see someone making fun or bullying against someone step up step in if you have a capacity to change the way people think to challenge the world around you and to gather people with you to continue that challenge to do the right thing be brave be bold look for ways to have that impact to shape the world around the world will be what you all make it and you have to understand that many times you will not define your own success and your happiness by what you get from the world but how you shape the world around how you have an impact on the world how you bring meaning and relevance to your life to how you impact and shape your community so know that the choices you make are actually not just shaping your lives but the whole world you're part of and the opportunity for us and here and be inspired as we go off to speak with a whole bunch of different heads of government to be connected to all of you is the best possible way I could start this day and any day thank you for continuing to inspire me and reassuring me that our future and our present is in very good hands Justin Jacinda, thank you very much