 why do you think cc struggled today? I have to watch back a little bit but um again maybe just look like a lot on the plate you know struggling again to really have that sharpness with his cutter thought he threw some good sliders in there um but but I'd have to watch it back it just seemed like the the crispness of his cutter and the a little bit of inconsistency and then you know they they did a good job when they got a pitch on the plate of uh putting in play in play with some authority you went to green for an extended period of time then holder then Kainley what did you like about Kainley in that situation um just trying to hope and he could he could get through and and keep it there enough for us to continue to fight back and um yeah I think we're at five one at that point and uh you know got himself into some trouble a couple big outs and then the the blooper that looked like um he was gonna get out of the inning just unable to so um and then we kept fighting uh love the love the fight all day you know we had some opportunities obviously early that we didn't capitalize on finally we're able to break through there but um you know the frustrating one there I believe you had roberton warming earlier why not roberton and that's had we got it um two or three runs we would have I mean at some point you know when you're four and five runs down and and you're using up all your leverage guys and multi innings you know you know you gotta you gotta be prudent at some point Kenny Aaron do you have any concerns about what you've seen recently from cc the last last handful starts um you know a little bit with the inconsistency just just finding his cutter um because it's obviously that cutter so important to him I feel like the slider the last couple times has been better I feel like he's flashed a good cutter but still just struggling to find that real good consistency where you know he talks about driving it in in and and when he's good with it he can elevate it and really get that Christmas in on the hands of righties Dan you talked before the game about how important it was to carry momentum you know into the playoffs and and now I think it's 8 and 10 in the last 18 at what point does that become you know not just a small sample size and something that is worrying when we go home I mean we're we have a group in there capable of of of turning this thing in a heartbeat and we just got to keep battling through this right now I feel like we are showing some signs of pulling ourselves out of it a little bit but we got to do better we got to get more consistent and that's been the toughest thing for us right now it's like you know we put one you know we come out yesterday like gang busters really play well and then kind of fall back today to keep from getting that role but I also feel like we're just a few games away from really getting on that role to where we can start rolling downhill and start beating some people up and we got to get there Dave and then across and do you think that's just been getting some of these guys back a piece meal that's kind of prevented you guys from clicking I mean Dee Dee looks like he's starting at the ball obviously like he can so yeah yeah I mean it's it's just getting kind of everyone click in a little bit I definitely feel like Dee Dee's gaining some traction in a big way obviously he's really starting to play well for us and starting to have a lot of quality at bats you know as we get more and more people into the fold hopefully that's that's going to continue to help but but getting that consistency from from everyone that you know allows our lineup to be really dynamic when we're getting getting contributions from everyone so I feel like we're getting closer to that but um you know we got to get there too right and I know you wanted to get Miguel a day off today and he ends up coming in and he gets the huge hit there is there something just in his makeup that just makes him so good in those late spots in those seventh and later spots thing yes um yeah I mean I think part of its makeup I think he's he's shown um you know again this year having Dern everything he's got having nothing handed to him and kind of has taken this job and run with it and um but on top of that I think what we've seen is a really gifted hitter and uh you know able to handle a lot of different pitches um and you know he's been as consistent offensively for us as really anyone and so it's you know he's he's one of those guys that anytime he comes up in a situation in a tough spot um you know off a tough pitcher you know you like seeing him in the in the box especially with the runners on base Wally Aaron Ceci obviously has had a great career but considering your concerns with him right now would you be comfortable giving him the ball in a postseason game sure and and again I feel like he's close enough um where you know there's no question he's been inconsistent his last few few times out but um I think we've seen enough with with his stuff that he just needs to find it on a more consistent basis obviously and um you know he's got a couple starts here at the end of the season to continue try and get there and you know hopefully we'll see that improvement um but you know he's a guy that um you know obviously the moment of postseason's not not going to affect him at all and and and you hope even bring out the best in him Dan do you know if uh Sheffield is coming up uh we haven't had that uh we haven't discussed the post games have they played yet they played they they lost there's there are reports that he's coming up okay yeah we'll we'll I don't I don't want to until I talk to everyone back there we'll see and I know you say you know you pay attention to everyone in baseball um the fact that the age you know the age could close to within half a game of you does that does that mean anything to you does that number that getting smaller means something to you does that stand out at all just you know we're in a dog fight you know these games are really important and you know what they do you know it doesn't change it but these games are really important and it's important that we we put our best foot forward and um we're in a good position to to get to where we want to go but we got to go take it okay thank you