 The first item on the agenda is public comment. This is comment about any public hearing of the land use regulations. Town of Randolph is considering amendments to their existing land use regulations. The proposed change would expand the central business district to include eight to 12 Prince Street in Foundry Park. So this is to take comments on that. Get comments and adopt if you want. Yes. Any comments on adding that to the central business district? Seeing none, anybody want to vote on that change? I would make a motion to add the parcel to the central business district. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Stained? Done. Now we'll call the regular slide forward to order. We do public comment on anything that's not currently on the agenda. Paul? Thank you, Madam Chair. My name is Paul Haspel. I represent an organization called Vermont Futures. It's a Randolph-based think tank that works on issues of economic development, community, civic, and social engagement. The purpose of my coming tonight, very briefly, and I promise to be brief, is to introduce the board to the concept of forming a ready, a rural economic development infrastructure district. This is something the legislature approved in 2017. Very quickly, a rural economic development infrastructure district or a ready district forms almost exactly the way a fire district is formed, which is to say a petition from members, from voters within the geographic area, petition the select board to form a district. There's a little bit of pro forma that is in the statute in terms of what information is presented to the select board and how it's evaluated. That being done, the select board has a role in helping form the initial governing board of the ready district. And once the district is there, you now have a municipal entity which is capable of, among other things, financing, owning, and governing rural infrastructure. It was originally designed as it's going to be applied, in this case, to building fiber broadband. Fiber to the home or fiber to the premise broadband. The purpose of the municipal structure is two-fold. One, of course, it enables financing at municipally tax-advantaged rates, which is helpful in bringing the cost down. It also does as a very important function, which is that because it continues to own that infrastructure, it provides a quasi-regulatory environment. It doesn't necessarily control the rate setting, for example, and other things. But it has a strong influence on how those rates are set within the confines of a market-driven network. I'm not, especially because it's a pine-consuming subject, I don't intend to get into the business plan aspects of it tonight, only to introduce the concept to you. We are looking now at a set geography, which is roughly the stock farm, Fish Hill tributaries thereof as a test-bed for this concept. We have considerable interest in households along the several roads in terms of bringing that broadband into the community. The advantages of doing it this way, in addition to the fact that it makes that service substantially more affordable. We're talking in the $45 to $49 range per month for a 15-megabit synchronous broadband connection. And there are several things that enable it. And at some point down the road, I'll be glad to share that with you and discuss that. But the other thing that it does is it opens up that part of that community to economic development, work from home, home-based business, as well as access to things like educational enhancement, health care, medical, the list goes on. I did not. Sadly, I had that deflected this afternoon and didn't get back home today. But I will provide. I've given actually a physical handout to the town manager, but what I will do is make sure you use an electronic copy of the statute, which was slightly amended this year. So I took the liberty of blending the existing statute and the minor changes that were made in 2018, which reflect governance situations that we won't face here. But that all-new statutory language I will make available as well as the basic template for how to approach citizens and get them signed up. I just forwarded your email to them. That sounds like this has already been done. So I guess I have nothing to do. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. So you're looking to get this back on the agenda. We would like to discuss it. Or on the agenda to discuss what it is. We would discuss it. And I don't know how you want to organize your engagement with us, whether a member or a two of the board would like to meet independently and kind of get up to speed. Or the concept is not unbelievably complex. But for what it's worth, we've engaged in 2017. We engaged the town of Newbury in doing this. So it's gone through that process. There is a ready existing in Newbury. And it's gone through legal review by town council there. And the entire enterprise, as it came into existence with legislature, was under the, we worked with, very closely with Paul Giuliani, who many of you may know, was significant involvement in almost every town that's managed a piece of infrastructure. And of course, the other legal. So it is. So that some members of the board meet with them independently to come up to speed. I send all the information to folks too. So you can also come up with a speed on it. And then we'll have them do a presentation in August. And then decide if it's something that town wants to do. Right now, the model is Newbury, right? That's the current. They're the ones that I think this is something CJ explained. If you talk to CJ, then you're up to speed. Well, I'm kind of. I got the concept. So, OK, it's that process that she had been talking about. That's right, that's right. I'd like to sit on that. And by the way, knowing that several or maybe all of you have some interest in economic development activities, these ready districts, though they were purpose made for broadband, have other applications that you may want to consider and have sort of take a look at. Because again, it allows different, it allows portions of communities and even towns, say, if you had two adjacent towns that have comparable economic development agenda, it works out. That's the flexibility of using that prior district. I think she told me go beyond the town border. Yeah, and then go beyond town. In fact, it need not even be contiguous. I wouldn't mind sitting in on something. Listen a little bit about that. So they have the information. We'll put you on the August agenda. That would be great. For more detail. And then those, like, period of time. We'll triangulate with whoever wants to meet and get that done well before August of the bazaar. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks. Thank you. Anybody else under public to be heard? People will be agenda. Yeah, I'll make a motion of the agenda. Second. Motion on the second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Mr. Beaver, yes. Next we have the Consent Calendar, whose last month's minutes to Lawrence and Cemetery plot sales. I move we approve the Consent Calendar. Second. Motion on the second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstainment? And that carries. Since you have a new business starting out with the presentation of those resolutions. We recently had, as the board is aware, one of our longstanding and great public safety officers in the town of Randolph, Augustine. Our loss is certainly the gain of royalty. But we have the board. We pulled together a resolution with the board's permission. And we certainly would like to ask the board to present the resolution to former sergeant, connecting Chief Florida Stahlmacher, who is now a chief of the Royalty Police Department. And if the board would like to present it to us. Yeah, I'd like to. Or maybe if you'd like to get out just to chair. We'd love to chair you with that. So the resolution says, whereas Loretta Stahlmacher served as a member of the Randolph PD for over 18 acts of the Randolph Police Department after that, and the police department for over 18 years during which she was promoted to the rank of sergeant and on multiple occasions served as the acting chief of police. And whereas Sergeant Stahlmacher has also served as a member and chair of several committees, including law enforcement against drugs, the lead program that's in the schools, citizen advisory board, police design review, circles of support and accountability. And whereas Sergeant Stahlmacher continues to serve her country with distinction as a member of the National Guard, served two tours of duty abroad, one 18 month deployment to Iraq in 2005, and a 12 month deployment to Afghanistan in 2010. And whereas throughout her tenure in all of the duties she fulfilled and the challenges she encountered, Sergeant Stahlmacher maintained the utmost in the forum, preserved the dignity of the Randolph Police Department and the county units. Oh, great. Great word, civility in every phase of engaging with the Randolph community. Now therefore, the Randolph Select Board publicly recognizes the rest of the work. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. Sorry. For the record. Thank you. Sorry. Thanks so much. Thank you. So next on the agenda, we have the non-state police briefing of the safety guidelines. My name is Lieutenant Roger Farmer. I'm a station commander in Wellington and a law enforcement staff so they come and speak briefly about what we can do with the village and what we have to offer in some of our limitations. Maybe the best way to address that is just to bring you up to speed. Those of you that don't know what our responsibilities are, just tell you a little bit about that. Out of Royalton, we cover 19 towns. Three counties, Orange, Windsor, and Addison. That includes about 114 miles of interstate. And last year, we took roughly 5,800 calls for service. And just in comparison, Randall Village took around about 1,200 calls for service. So right now, some of our staffing issues, we are down four troopers and one sergeant right now. So we're a little shorthanded, as is many other stations around the state. It's just kind of a common problem that we're having a law enforcement right now, obviously, so we're feeling that pinched a little bit, as well. As far as what we have to offer the village, obviously, if there are any emergency calls and we do not have current law enforcement coverage, we will answer the call. We will come with whatever resources we've required, the caveat being that the far corners of our patrol area being Redding, Plymouth, some of the back corners down it may still be 45-minute slights and sirens for us to get here, if we're that far away. So that's one of the drawbacks. It is a big patrol area, and we just may not have personnel to respond to all emergency calls at all times. I've spoken to Scott Kulot. It sounds like he will be doing a contract with you folks in the short term, as this kind of works itself, through whatever processes is going on. I've talked to him about after-hours calls, it sounds like he will be available for after-hours calls when we sign off. I've spoken to him and Loretta as well, that obviously they're going through changes in the road to now and they're just a one or two person show right now. So we will backfill as necessary as we don't want just one officer responding to a call, if it's a call of the violent nature, something that's just officer safety issues. So we may still send someone to either back up Orange County or Randolph, or whatever is necessary. That would be on a recall basis. I know there was some talk about the Waterbury model. No, if you want me to speak on that, I don't know. Sure, yeah, if you would like. So that's obviously a pilot program that we're doing right now in Waterbury. As far as that being expanded to any other towns, that's years down the road. Basically that only becomes a possibility once we become fully staffed as an agency. And I don't believe in our history we have ever been fully staffed. So that would need to happen first before we can hire additional troopers to fill these on the contracts. So that's a long ways down the road as even a possibility to any other town. So for Waterbury as a pilot program, we're not expanding that anywhere else. So we'll see how that shakes it out. But it really comes down to a staffing question. We're just having a hard time filling positions with our agencies and all of the law enforcement agencies are feeling the same thing. Any other questions about what we can or can't do for the town and are you looking at a few different options on moving forward? So I guess I have a question on the response. So if whatever the coverage may be in the town or in Orange County in the short term, they get toned out. Do you guys hear the same tone and do they? So you determine whether you respond to the same dispatcher. So we kind of use the same dispatch that we do. So the way I kind of have it set up right now with our patrol commanders is that the call should go to them as well and we'll determine whether we need to send someone. So the Orange County doesn't have to request it. It's something of bio-nature that you determine have to. Hopefully, if for some reason that they haven't heard the someone's response and hopefully they'll make that request, we're certainly more able to send someone. Is there a lack of staffing due to lack of candidates or funding? Lack of candidates, yeah. The funding is there. The current turnover is working extremely hard to try to fill all these vacancies but it's just we're having a hard time finding qualified candidates. And we're not willing to lower our standards for looking forward for hiring. So we're just not getting as many as we did years ago. We have only 10% of people that apply. We end up actually hiring. So we go through a lot of people before we make a roster to the higher. And it's a difficult process that even some of the folks that make it through the process don't finish the academy or just decide it's not for them. We lose after going through all of the steps that they have to get through just to make it to the academy. We then lose people during the academy that just decide this wasn't what they thought it was. I think nationally there's an issue though. What's that? It's nationally. Nationally, yes. When everything's going on, people aren't jumping into it. It's law enforcement, it's voluntary, agencies they can't work on, no one wants to volunteer for work anymore. So it's just a lot of issues going on right now that we weren't the same problems 10 years ago. That's serious. You're right. Can I just add one thing? Yeah, from my perspective, I'm the troop commander so I oversee the five Southern Barracks and Royalton is one of them. And I would just encourage the board to realize that we will not be able to offer you a little service that you are used to with your own local department. I think you already know that, but I just want to put on a record. And us absorbing 12 and a half calls would be, that's pretty significant. So we're encouraging you to do your best to keep a local department here and staff it as best you can. And we're more willing to help in transition times and stuff like that. But we're not really built right now to absorb this community full time. So if that happened, we'd have to do some redesigning. Hopefully that's where you guys are going is to keep in your police department and getting some different folks in, but just wanted to get that. We're to a model where there's some level of more local policing than the state police. Yeah, I mean, we're built, right? We're really designed to offer emergency support. You know, how it breaks those, we have the resource, we can pull through first from all our state or things, but it's the run of the mill, daily calls, you know, dog stuff, landlord, tenant disputes, parking issues, that's the stuff that you're, we're not built for that. We have 19 towns, is it 19? In this area, so we've got to spread ourselves throughout 19 towns and it leaves, you know, spreads us pretty thin. So for us to come in, take over this town full time would not, would not. And just in comparison, when the PD was running at full strength, you had a chief and one officer working pretty much every day, day shift, Monday to Friday, my average, my average shift right now is a sergeant and three troopers, so that's four law enforcement officers for 19 towns as an average shift. And some of that's through the staffing, obviously. We fluctuate depending on vacation and everything. We may have more than that, but I would say on average, we have probably four troopers for every shift right now to cover 19 towns and 114 mills in industry. And I think the contract with the Sheriff's Department was a good idea, that's, that helps us out a lot. So we can help them back them up when they need it. And their deal was at 80 hours. Yeah. That's helpful that we don't have to carry that entire burden and we'll help them out as they need it. How does the communication work? Because the towns PD got in with the state police for dispatch way back and that's continued until we discontinue it, from what I understand. So the Sheriff uses their own dispatch. Temporarily, Orange County is still using the state dispatch. It sounded like they were doing some upgrades to their radio equipment. So we've basically offered it up to them free of charge, just continuing through, as Randall PD was doing for our dispatch temporarily. But it sounds like at some point they will be able to switch over and continue using their own dispatch through Chelsea. But when they switch over, how does that then work for the backup? So if the calls that are all going now start going through Orange County, how do you, you would only find out if they called you. They were proactive and engaged with you. And that would be, you know, I think it's pretty limited on to who would be responding to calls in a village after hours. Probably Scott Lewis, maybe the one I'm not sure, but sort of the conversation I can have with him. If he receives information on a call that's being called out for, and he needs additional resources to have him call our dispatch, you know, we'll call out people. We weren't able to just sit that out if and when they switch over their own dispatch. I'm not sure what that timeframe is. I was just thinking it wasn't a guarantee that it would all be dispatched forever through you guys. Right. Yeah. So the last guy that came here, the various commander, his explorer was all polished to the hill. And I had a conversation with him about who did that. And he said he did. And he offered me lessons on how to do it, but he never, I'm gonna follow through with that. He can make arrangements for that. I'd love to watch him call it. I don't want to know, sorry. I'll hand her a girl if he did it. That thing was like shirking right up. Mine is all the way up. He's like, oh, I do it myself. And I was like, dang it. He's got a little joint free title in his hand. So does the board have any questions? Like, I just want to have our point and process the gravity of what that would, that would cripple the barracks having to absorb, not shut it down, but it would be a tremendous amount of work added. And we're hoping that we don't have to do that if it all costs. We're hoping you don't have to eat it. Yeah. Okay. As an alternative though, and it's probably a conversation you can keep going forward. If money is available for state police, troopers, but there are no qualified candidates or candidates that don't need the threshold or grants to municipalities available so that we could then potentially hire one or two local officers that may not meet state trooper thresholds but may need Randolph police department threshold. But that's something we can continue to talk about. Right. It's an option. Yeah. Nothing we would have. That would be through us. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we're doing on a tight, I'm not familiar exactly. You haven't trouble finding folks or is it a money issue? What is the biggest issue that you're facing for? All of the above. There's a variety of issues. It's from the affordability of it. You know, it's the costs continue to grow. Randolph has a very smaller defined area that the police district serves. So an increase in cost hits very few taxpayers. So any increases drastic getting called by folks or folks that even want to do it. Right. Is an issue. I think when they changed what officers could do what you have to have that's having a ripple effect across the board. You know, you talked about some of these petty complaints. You know, it doesn't take the top of the line trooper that's got 15 years experience on the job to go tell somebody to knock it off type things. So, you know, what's the, some of these are more like a community officer type thing than they are anything else. Have you tried talking to other departments of similar size? Like a department pops in my head would be Bradford. That's like a two, three person department. That's pretty successful. I don't know that that's just an option just looking at how other people are doing it and cutting costs and recruiting and what they're doing to bring people through the door. Just, just. Some of our challenges are having a regional hospital in the Claire Martin Center in town and the types of support they need are not necessarily law enforcement support as much as their security guard or, you know, person on staff that can handle somebody that's out of control. And that's all fallen on to the police department for all these years. So some of it's redefining what that group does also. But we've formed a local community team to look at it, what it is, what should the service be, how should it be delivered to try and define what that looks like. Thank you. John looks from Randolph. Is Randolph Center one of the 19 towns? Yeah, it is. How's that worked out? As far as we know, it's going pretty well and otherwise we don't get a ton of calls up there but that's within our patrol area so that's the main reason we respond to that. He's Randolph as well. He's Randolph as part of the area team who works for you. So you have anything outside of the village itself that's discovered by the state? Thank you, Lieutenant. Appreciate it. Thank you. Next up is the Orange County Sheriff's Department Agreement. We were expecting to have Captain Kapitansky and also Sheriff Ponyan here. I can wait on this. We can. I think it's the later people like the boy would like. I mean, I could also talk about the agreement, something that we've talked about in the past but I was hoping that they could share some more information of what they've done. It's done. See if they've done it. Assembly permit for the Green Mountain Stage Race. We've got that. And if no vacant projects this year. That's very exciting. I'm happy to tell you all about the events. We were kind enough last year to allow us to have the events in town. I was hopeful that it would take place. So the Green Mountain Stage Race is a, just for people who aren't here, the Refersure Recollection is a four day high school stage race. This is the 18th year of the event and it brings racers from around the US, Canada. We always get some European racers as well to come and race in Vermont for four days. The race starts on Friday. It's the first stage. It's an over in Warren. Starts in Warren Village. I'm looking to have the second stage which would start in Randolph. It would be on the 12A loop. It includes about 37 miles. We'll have 10 fields of racers. Each field is led by a police officer. There are officials in vehicles and also on motorcycles. We have emergency medical services also as well as service for the racers. So each field starts on its own and it's made up of similar experience level racers and they have a rolling sort of caravan as they go around this loop. If racers have a flat tire and they get serviced and can't catch back on or they get dropped, then they're out of the caravan and they follow the rules of the road effectively. We have police at the intersections. This is a pretty straightforward course in that there's really only three turns. That's pretty basic too. We're pretty close to each other. And last year I worked with Sergeant Saltmunker who was the chief actually briefly for that time. We had worked out some coverage for the race site. I understand now I work with the sheriff's office or a power flight company. The state police also work the race. They typically are doing their police vehicle. The way we run the races, we'd be starting at the high school. Last year I had the approval. I haven't heard back from them yet but I'm continuing to chase around on that. We started in the high school stage there. There would be five fields starting in the earlier morning and then we'd start five more fields once the first five are finished. And we'd be finishing up at the airport but the problem that would be when the finish would take place. And there'd be a little bit of a feed zone just across from the high school. They don't stop to get something to eat. They just ride by and get all of it out and grab the thing, ride by. And that would be the race. Most of the fields will do two laps for 74 miles, one field will do one and then two fields will do three. And there's sprints on each lap up at the, we'd be up at the finish line. That's completely about the race. We have insurance, which I forwarded on to the town as well as information that's contained in the permit. The race has been well expected to have 650 or 750 racers. It's a little hard to know. People sign up late in the process of registration. What else I can tell you? Is there any type of event at the end or they just, they're done and... Well, when they're done, they're probably hungry and they're coming to town to get something to eat. I would be great if I could figure out a way to run the race through time. And I think that would be a nice opportunity and I'm not quite sure how to make that work early in the end. But I also don't want to be disruptive and this keeps it sort of a little bit more in the outskirts of time. But there, I mean, there'll be, there's an award ceremony but that isn't taught to the finished officials process the results of the medical data that that takes place. But it will bring people here in advance of the event because the racers like to preview the course. You're not going to see a hundred people show up one day but they'll come in different groups and ride the course in advance and they will get things they need because they're in the area whether it's gas and food, that sort of thing. We'll bring people to the area in general. Certainly on the day of the race, not only are there 650 or 750 racers, they also come on average about one person. Some people come with a whole family. Some people come in the team and they have one person that there are two people that are taking care of their needs. So it's another six or 700 people that come along with the race. So that's pretty much the race. I'm happy to answer any questions. I should mention that the permit itself, although staff and me have not been able to obtain all the signatures on the form. I have spoken with our health officer. She's okay with it, just hasn't signed the form. Sheriff's department has also reviewed the form and they are okay with it, just have also not signed the form. And our highway department, our public works, as is this in the form, is also okay with the event, also have not signed the form. Can I make a motion to approve that? A second. A second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed, abstained, motion carries. Great, thank you very much. I will hope to have the event here for a number of years and then the pavement is certainly gotten quite good. I guess we can always see how it goes. Hopefully we'll want to have it in. And if there are concerns or complaints, I'm glad to come and address them all of you like after the event. Would be nice to have a coordinator for the year. When is that? I don't know, it's right here. Oh, my partner. Coordinator. My person do like here, so that's, that was very popular, so I feel free to reach out. I do tell select boards that they say, oh, this is all fun and good, but I know I get complaints about the giveaway free money because that hasn't been enough, so I'm really the same as this one. Some people don't like the disruption and it slows traffic down occasionally. They'll ride fast, but sometimes it's not as fast as the traffic wants to go. At the finish, we will have, I'd work with some constables that are from over at Warren and then one of them may come over and help out, and they also have another law enforcement officer there just so you know that when the race, when we go up radio communication within the race and within each individual race, but they also can talk to the police around the course. So they will stop traffic when they come in to sprint each lap just to keep it safe. They'll stop traffic so that there won't be any cars. No racers end up just put on us in the car. So if they're approaching the finish, they'll stop traffic that would be approaching so that they can get through safely and then the traffic will move through. So it should be pretty minimal disruption on that road when that will happen. We're up to three minutes left. Great, thank you so much. All right, here we go. Thank you. Thank you so much. Since a lot of waste water organs have been contained. Yeah. I wonder how I do that from this angle. So I kind of gave you guys a brief overview of some of the major changes. The last meeting, you have in front of you an annotated version of the pages that were changed on the water ordinance. And how would you like to go about this? You want me to kind of quickly come through what the changes are or what do you want to do with this? I'm still looking for my historical data. Historical data? Let me talk about providing a little bit of information about what the impact these were over the last several years. Oh, how much? Yeah, what was the effect? What were those? Yep, I didn't get to, I didn't pull those together. How much we've collected, you mean? Yeah, I should know my pet pee because I want to eliminate them. Right. No, I didn't get to do that. I mean, that doesn't necessarily change here because you can set up the things that are on the water. That was just a piece of the puzzle I was just trying to figure out just how much of an impact that really had on the overall operating budget and expenses of running the water in the sewer. That doesn't have any on the operating and maintenance expenses because it all goes to the capital. I know, but I want to know how much it was to see whether or not what that money, what we were getting every year from that. Yeah, you can get that for you. Thank you. Sorry about that. That's okay, I mean. So how do you, do you want me to quickly go through what the changes are or do you have any questions about specific changes? How do we do that? Let's go, have we proposed when the changes go down and maybe talk a little bit about why they're there and if it's just something that we use it's just a change in the number then we could just say it's a change in the number. Okay. So on section 205 of the town manager, this gives flexibility to have the town manager make a decision when the ordinance might otherwise say it has to go to the advisory committee first. It just, you know, it still keeps the committee in the loop as to what decision he's making. You can get there and put it in the mail. It's just an advisory committee anyhow. They have no decision according. Section 210 is completely new. It allows for variances of any of the provisions that can be varied, like there's some that can't. You can't vary the assessment of interest and penalties on delinquent bills, accounts, because that was authorized by vote of the district's users. So some things can't be weighed. But this allows for variances in unusual circumstances, unusual and unique circumstances so that it's not likely to set a precedent. Another process is it gets heard by the committee first and then would go to whoever the appropriate person would be. It could be the superintendent, it could be the town manager or the support. And some of the variance criteria there, the bottom under D is kind of taken from zoning variance criteria to a point. It's not quite as strict, quite a bit, not as strict. So that may be any questions? Nope, we're so far. Section 213, you'll see in the first paragraph there that we are specifically indicating that we, now first and now can go on to private property to read meters, that was an issue for some of the broad, one particular property. There's just a kind of a technical change at the last paragraph in 214. In 215, billing abatements, this is kind of what we talked about last time where someone has a huge abatement and they actually use very little water. So, and they pay the bill, which means normally it would just go as a credit to their account, but it would take them five years to pay off that credit, to use up that credit. So this is allowing a refund in that case if it's going to take more than three billing periods based on average usage to basically use up that credit. So, Ma'am, sorry not to be picking on 214 F above, I think we just need to add the width back in. 214 F, hold on. Can I delete too much there? Yeah, the width probably should remain. Yes, thank you. It works. It works. That's my grammar for the year. Okay. Okay. All right. Allowable abatements, we've seen this happening with the construction last summer and a little bit of this summer. Sometimes there's unforeseen repairs or construction results in turning off the water main and when we shut down the water main and turn it back on it can rile up the water and cause it to be discolored. And we've been typically granting people a 100 cubic foot abatement of both the water and wastewater when they had to run due to... Clear the water. Clear the water from a flushing situation or something. Yep. So that's what that allows and the next amendment under C kind of just ties into that. Part of that section. Is this was requested by Chris saying that sometimes his crew is out there and they have to do something and it just allows them to optimize that 100 cubic foot abatement in the field without having to go through a real process. Just so you know under current rates 100 cubic feet on both water and wastewater amounts to a total of $20. So it makes the customer feel better knowing that they don't have to pay that and it's not a huge hit on the operating budget. Moving on. Article three. This clarifies hopefully although it's kind of hard to word so if you want to do some wordsmithing please do. That one and two family residences that are an existing lot are part of a small subdivision i.e. a two lot subdivision. If it would require a service connection longer than 200 feet or as it says there would have to recently reverse the lead wetland whatever do not have to connect to the public system. So if you have a piece of property that you're creating a subdivision of three lots or more and regardless of how long it's going to take to tie those houses into the system you have to tie into the system. It's just part of the cost of subdividing and developing those lots that they're creating. So ignorance what's the significance of 200 feet? We didn't change that that was just in there we just figured and think that if you have to go longer than 200 feet you can get pretty costly in having to put in that service line your house is going to have to set that pretty far. You can change that if you want. No I just didn't know if there was some engineering tape. No. That was just a discussion which was originally adopted in whatever 2000 something so set it at 200 feet. Section 303 this is basically nothing we came up with inside the state statute it's just putting what's in state statute into the regulations. I don't know if there's any issue with that. Any issues? Okay. Now we come to the excess fees. This is what the committee came up with for a recommendation on how to hopefully ease the pain of the excess fees. Single family residences have to pay 100% upfront. That actually doesn't change. That would have happened the way it is written now anyhow. For all of the users regardless of how much the allocation fee excess fee is you pay 20% upon that first invoice and then you start getting invoices after you've actually started using assistance for services. So you get your first billing access fee will not be assessed on your first billing it will be four steps in 20% equivalence. And then the next section just talks about what you do and it's based it's basically 20% for the whole thing upfront and then 20% for each phase after that in the four billings. Any questions? Okay. Moving on. Hydrants 504 I think I mentioned last time we have an issue of someone who's built a fence that hinders the ability of that hydrant to be open fully without a lot of extra work which can take up time for the fire department. So this kind of clarifies what it means and how far you have to how much clearance you have to provide on a hydrant. Just know that this is not one of the provisions that obviously would be mirrored in the sewer district ordinance because it's absolutely an issue. And then lastly So I'm sorry are existing structures that violate this grandfathered in them? Like that fence? No, but we've already talked to them about that. We've got a follow up on that but yes. No, no one's grandfathered on that because it just clarifies what the instruction is. Yeah. What distance you have to maintain clearance. Then the last one in section 511 sets up I think a clearer process for kind of what we're going through with LED dynamics it sets up a process whereby someone has to request for a water line or sewer line to be accepted by the district and then you guys decide whether that's in the best interest of the district to do that and ensure that it's intent. Then the permit construction permit gets issued and then they have construction requirements they have to meet as built you know testing satisfactory testing results before it gets finally accepted but that way at least they know going into it that they're you intend to accept accepted as district property. It does allow the district to accept already built infrastructure kind of like what we're doing for the food and foods. Those are the amendments. There's slightly different wording for a couple of provisions like the water abatement one you know for having to 100 people foot for running your water because it's discolored in the sewer ordinance it'll those will be prepped by the customers who are connected to the public water system. Just to make it clear if someone has a private well doesn't get to have the sewer abated just because something is mucked up in their private system. They're not on either. This doesn't apply hot. Friend. Oh there is one other thing that I think was talked about we did get put in here but it's on your action item sheet that if you want the new payment schedule to be retroactive then you would add in that language that's a D on the action item sheet here. Any questions? I just have a comment on 205 the town manager's section should we restrict it to email or should it just be written communication? What's the comments? Yeah this is in the comments you know if somebody walked in handing a piece of paper it doesn't meet the rule I realize it's sticky packing but Can you just take out via email? Yeah. Can you take out via email? Yeah. This is in section 205. 205. 205. No you don't have what happens with these ordinances is that you can adopt it and then the notification happens it's effective in 65 days barring a petition to take it to a vote within 45 days. I don't know why they have that difference between 45 to 60. Okay. Pleasure. I'm going to make a motion to accept this as written and then include that little letter D there so that we can at least make this virtual active. That's modified not written. Modified. That would be just modified correct? Right. All the changes like you just made about your email. For both the water and the civil ordinances? Yes. A second. A motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Next we have to set a public hearing date for the town plan. We're not sure if we'd like to revisit the agreement for ownership. We will in just a second. But Marty has the town plan one too. I'll give you this. I'm going to upload her items. Okay. Sorry guys. She's been sitting here longer. I apologize. That's okay. I thought it was court. We weren't more important than court. So we were taken away from both minds. Not good. We'll take a second. Town plan. Town plan. So the planning commission held its public hearing on Monday. And there's been fast and furious emails going back and forth on the final tweaks to it. But they're ready to submit it to you. And they would like to have you set at least one public hearing date. They can't be any sooner than 30 days. So yes. So the reason you don't have a plan just yet is because the planning commission can still make some tweaks and changes until it's actually noticed the 15 day notices occurred. So they still look like another week and a half or so to finalize it. And you will have it by the time the public notice is made. This is the final draft for the select board will be available on the 12th of May. I did that before we met a public hearing. You should have emailed you one right now that probably would work. I could. I could. But I didn't see why. I didn't want to print out 88 pages and not all be what will be presented to the public. We need the date in August and the select board meeting is on the night. So that won't work. Yeah, unfortunately. By two days. Unless we change the date of the select board to the 16th. Is this a controversial changes in the plan? That depends on who you ask. Well, I don't know. I don't think that it's there's a lot of I think that my opinion is that I think we work through all the pieces with everybody regarding I think the hot buttons were the energy part, which, you know, we really can't fix because we do that. We need an energy plan, which we haven't had time to do. So I think that what we I think what we came up with was a lot of public comments over the last three meetings and we've been able to include most of those. So I don't think that that was much of anything else that was controversial. It was mostly the energy portion, which I think we've addressed. And the planning commission's thoughts were that once we got through the town plan, we could go back and then start working on an enhanced energy plan with two rivers because we still are engaged with two rivers until spring. And the planning commission wants to kind of form a subcommittee with members of the energy committee and planning commission interested public to really kind of lead the charge on this enhanced energy planning. Because the energy committee should be involved. A lot of other towns is the energy committee that does the work. So that's what we're going to do. So if we want to set a separate date for the first hearing of the plan or if we want to adjust the select board meeting to put them together. Is there any reason not to move the select board meeting back a week? To take it from the night to the substrate? Is there anything that you could think of that would create an issue? No, just we staff properly warned the meeting and the board is accepting everything. Right, I know you're going to be away for a period of time there in between so that's not... This might even give you a little more time to be back, right? There's no other pressing issues that we can see that need to be addressed probably by the 9th. So I would be in favor if we could do this public hearing at the same time to do the select board. So we would make it August 18th and September 13th. I'll be in need of one of those. I'll leave that to you. Let's take you in. Do you need help for that trip? Yeah. Thanks, Australia. There you go, that's the one you want. There you go. I cut your attention. Mike, does that work for you? Yep, it all started. Yeah, that's September meeting. Yeah, that would work because if you guys decide to make significant changes it'll still give you time to do that before the second hearing has to be warned. If you make any significant changes you have to warn a new hearing. So now we're trying to hit that September 17th deadline as long as you make your significant, if you make any significant changes they're done pretty close to August 16th. Then I'm sure I'll give you a gap and you should be there. Sorry, I'm fine. With those, August 16th, September 13th adjusting the select board meeting to the 16th then we'll keep on this. Select board meeting August 16th and August 16th hearing on the second hearing on September 13th. Thanks. We have a project change order for on-screen and you should have something else before that. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm out of order. Yes. So it's pretty self-explanatory. I think I did all the highlights of why we need this change order. We just did add some more context. We're just writing that we had some major issues that we discovered along this entire project. This being the most recent one I think the pipe burst a few weeks ago. There was an issue. Plugging the sewer line, we found that that entire pipe is just in need of replacement which then spurred this conversation and we felt it was appropriate to make this part in addition. The manhole cover, the manholes and all that, that's all in the septic budget anyway, right? In the sewer budget? All those expenses there was a comment about that it didn't make a a large net change for the overall project. But the overall project was paid for out of different sections of the budget. This would be entirely in the sewer budget. Tracking it separately even if the overall wasn't. Yes, it's separate. It's hooked up there and I wonder if we're ever getting out of that need. Sidewalks are hurting. We're starting to go in the streets so you know that's a good sign. That should make the view a little better. That's on the change order? $29.60 from change order. No second yet. I'll do some favor. All right, thank you. Please. Steve? Your last one is remembering Feltford Drive. I know, I made a few homes for us there. There are eight homes plus the one that used to be on South Main Street. So it's not a fun thing to do by any means because it is a hassle. But I've been told by the E911 for the people. So I just want to make sure I have your blessings before people. I have to do this and it starts walking. So then they can call us, right? I don't know. There is a call me. There's only eight of them. I can deal with it. Do take four, I'll take four. That's great. I'd move to a authorized. Yeah, you can forward the call. Yeah, the select board made that decision. Quite honestly, a lot of the unpopular changes I have to make because they're huge inconveniences to people. They're wholly supported and driven by the E911 state board addressing standards. It comes time for somebody to find them. They're going to be glad they did that. Absolutely, especially if they can't talk. Correct. So I would make a motion to give permission to Marty to re-number the residences on Belford. It's official. I can take the hit. Call me. No one wants to second it. You don't want the other vote calls? I'll second it. There we go. There's a brave guy. Motion to second. All those in favor? Aye. That's on Belford Drive we'll find it. It's not that long. That was right. They can't talk. One of those buttons, they got a question they can't... Somebody may not know the area so well, maybe trying to find 20 South Main Street and not be able to find it. That's based on what it amounts to. Those up there shaking said, yep, that's a good idea, right? Good. Good. Back to the Orange County Sheriff. All right. I'll take that out. Oh, today? Yeah, tonight. Good morning. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. I do apologize. Thank you. Sorry, we just... We just changed our route a little bit. We're flexing up. We got here before we adjourned. Yeah, I can't see anything. No, that was after I sent you the awful email to say, are we up close to the top of the agenda? We got you to the top. I don't want to be out all night. Can I have a second? I don't want to be out all night. All right. So we... When we, the town and Sheriff Pollinac and his team have been working on the transition that the town is in. The police district is currently in. We have a draft agreement that the town and police town staff in the Sheriff's Department is open to. Much of it was pulled together in collaboration with the Sheriff's Department. Provides for officers, including supervisors, shift breakdowns. We did not include the actual shifts that the officers will fill just because we wanted to not necessarily out there and certain elements not planned around shifts that are available. But we do feel that this is an agreement that would be mutually beneficial to the Sheriff's Department and the town and the police district residents. So we're hoping that the captain and the Sheriff can speak about their work that has been ongoing since the Department, the right of Police Department has gone down to one officer and the changes there are improvements they made in the last seven days. I'll start with, you know, I'm working closely with the DALFO. There are several things behind the scenes that's going on. Everything from you know, now we have Orange County deputies using radio frequency out of Royalton which is on a temporary basis. I don't know how much the lieutenant shared with that but on a temporary basis they get no problem with it. Also with still having one Randolph officer working there's things that, behind the scenes that need to be done. There's a record keeping for any records management system with database that's got to be updated every time that works. Any traffic tickets he does, cases make sure that they're all approved and submitted to the state's attorney's office in reasonable time. Little things like that behind the scenes that are going on. We also had a request for another agency wanted to buy some Randolph's equipment. So you know we the captain worked directly with the Randolph and basically very politely said until decisions made the department's going to be disbanded nothing's going to be removed from the department. Any records go settlement at the offer and you know, Randolph also selling anything off at this point. I'm in a process of you have the repeater that's on the PD, we're looking at switching that to the Orange County frequency just to once the state police have enough of us on their radio system that will just transition to my dispatch that will have no cost you know to Randolph with that in that cheer working. So that should be pretty seamless when that happens. I did ask the captain to also attend this way you have a face because if I'm not around the captain will be able to answer questions for me. Now it was one of the reasons we talked about the supervision it's either going to be the captain or myself here doing that role currently have Scott who's the lieutenant for us he's going to be primarily working day shift and we're working with Matt Chin on his schedule he'd like to change it and when he works it out we're next month we'll accommodate his changes so we're working with him and also just making sure between myself and Randolph we're not doing any issues so no I mean operationally and procedurally that's things are kind of status quo it's just different uniforms really the working hours may be a little different but they're going to be I would say comparable coverage even now I will happily report that as the sheriff said he's going to be here 40 hours a week in addition to that with some exceptions because we may have a different deputy that comes in to do patrols here and there but the two other deputies that primarily we're going to have one of them is a canine hand order and a canine is trained both in order detection so narcotics and finding people he's also trained in criminal apprehension and we have a drug recognition expert able to come out and screen people for DUI other than alcohol and they'll make that termination about what they have in their system so we've got some very skilled deputies that are going to be here working as well that's good questions? so I guess I have a couple so when I plug math and all that stuff I see like a delta of about 80 hours so we keep on looking at what we can undrack versus what the previous coverage was I guess from your guys professional opinion and exercising this what kind of gaps does that leave in the town and how do we mitigate any of those risks for that uncovered time currently the shifts that are not covered the Vermont State Police will respond to any emergency serious calls otherwise if they're non-emergency they're going to be stacked up and then in the morning we'll have an officer if it's during the week we tend to fool out and take care of those you know just put this way if we have a real serious incident in town both the captain and I we're just, we're a few minutes away as you know so it wouldn't be the first time that either one of us got called out in the middle of the night to handle you know the emergency situation I think one of the big differences between us now versus Randolph PD we don't currently have a mechanism in place for on call time so whereas Randolph PD was on call in their off hours aside from Matt who still is operating under the same stable order before our deputies don't have anything built in for on call as of right now and of course that being said if there was a major emergency you know one of us or both of us would certainly be here regardless of that as far as scheduling and I know it's being recorded and I just don't think it's appropriate to talk about scheduling for the public cause we're we've been working on some ideas to maximize our time in town and I'd be happy in a closed session to have you discuss those with you yeah my question wasn't more about specific hours, it was more about the delta total hours per week one from coverage to reception sure and you actually have around 105 hours because of the supervisor's time I'm going to be covering a lot of that but in my time here in town a lot is actually going to be out doing controls and answering calls as well so that'll offset some of that I also still going to be working with some of the more social service calls and a better way to cover those correct so that whether that's a direct contract with them you mean like Thurmartner for things at Gifford yeah and of course Gifford I mean the protocol would still remain if there's someone's in danger at Gifford if there's an assaulting person we're going to respond but after that under control we won't have the deputies we'll bring another deputy in through a mental health contract or what have you and that's a chunk of that delta we did have a sit down with Elpho and myself Dan Bennett and from Thurmartner we all chatted about the way things are going to be handled in the future and nothing really was written in stone but Gifford and Thurmartner do know that there's changes coming you know so Gifford pointed out they're spelling six figures on their private superior and we made that very well known mm-hmm Thurmartner now reached to the school system you guys chatted Blaine oh yes also the school system Blaine was actually at that meeting you guys had the meeting too I'm sure all the bases we've ever been they have resource officers they're looking at them great and behind the scenes too we've been applying for the school resource officers we're currently one cops grant just ran out and we're not letting the person off we got all the patrols for that person to cover them until February when the last part of the last year of his position but we're looking to renew that with some of the federal monies that are out there and the file applied for at least one if not two or any yes one of the challenges that we had with the Ranta Police Department was that we had one officer one position unfilled and correct me if I'm wrong Sheriff but my understanding is that and this is also through conversations with our former chief is that we were not allowed to apply for a cops grant if it was going to be used to subsidize a vacant position and in this case that was a challenge with the school district but now that we have this very least assured term agreement the school district can actually apply for a school resource officer through the Sheriff's Department because now that's an option so the school district is supportive they have budgeted in their now existing budget for a resource officer and we're moving forward with that if you you don't know this you probably do but we've been starting day one we're both lead instructors in the place of their program this past year 120 kids right here in Randolph Brookfield in Braitford that went through the program the Bayer program it's kind of slowly going away the leads program was law enforcement against drugs it's Evan's face program some of them mentioned to the superintendents and principals they did their own research they wanted to schools because we went from four schools teaching there to eleven schools in one year isn't this his leads I don't know this wasn't you it was you your turn yes I'll make the motion to accept you which is kind of cherished for me alright the second motion to the second all those in favor can I just be questioning a village contract did you review the outside of the village you already did that well I think you're I feel like you're receiving yeah it was that's something I think I like to put on the agenda this is for the contract for the annual service that we have ski patrols and traffic enforcement in the town just renew that the whole contract but I didn't put it on the agenda well actually you kind of did what are you doing totally far as I'm concerned it's part of the deal isn't it yep so I'm finding if you want to redo it I'll make the motion to renew that too what do you have just told me just said it's about the same right it's the same renewal but if it's easier we could share it through email do you need it tonight no since you're talking about it and just the FII the contract with the fire department I think it's been over well three months have gone by we've finally figured out the static in our radios and I just want to say thank you for moving forward with that because now Williamstown wants to come on board they can hear the Randolph Post clickers about Williamstown so they want to come on board to us too so you said you needed one more one more contract exactly to make that I need to see we can circulate that other contract and then and then just wrap it up okay I'll do that my father forgot to put it on I'll do that it's not much different thank you just let you know any questions at all I know Trini has my number but uh just feel free to share my number especially my cell phone number if you have any questions or concerns it works good but you're pulled over by one of his officers is that right? thank you thank you all right do you have any anticipation no for your quest? yes it's how it's typically asked select work to authorize to have sufficient cash on hand to pay daily operations or regular operations we normally do have cash flow issues but we have large insurgents of cash right when bills are due and then as we move forward after the first period then we run a little thin until the next infusion of cash for the next bills or bills are paid we had a tax anticipation note in this last fiscal year we did not have to draw from it from my understanding we did not have to draw from a former tax anticipation note in the last three years it does not cost the town any money to have this line of credit open it will only cost the town money if we borrow from the million dollars and only then for the amount that we borrow but we don't anticipate borrowing it's just a nice way to make sure that we have it so if the line of credit is approved by the select board and then you have to draw and direct them back to the select board or is that just something you can then draw well hopefully the motion would be to approve the tax of anticipation note and then that authorize the town to de-utilize it as necessary but one of the things we will do is the motion could be contingent on the manager coming back to inform the board of and we're not just going to borrow a million dollars I think the choice makes the decision based on the finances of the town when she needs the full money down I am I got through a whole meeting without doing it earlier this year I move we authorize town staff to advertise and obtain a tax anticipation note in the amount of one million dollars motion in the second all those in favor post change to revisit a quiche rpc request this is for the Brownfields assessment of the French property I'm trying to keep up with the minutes here she's on vacation this week this is the no fee one right yeah why not so to revisit a quiche is asked to down to include has asked for permission to include the branch of property into their Brownfield assessment study this is funded through the U.S. EPA directly to in our meeting with them we said well that's not what was on that site it wasn't a company that would essentially create Brownfield they clarified and said that their request isn't because they feel that it would be a Brownfield they just feel that the town could benefit from clarifying that it is not regardless of what was there in the past it's clear they don't have any evidence against the guess that it is or was or is contaminated they just are looking for publicly owned properties to include in their assessment public land we have not committed to them we said that we would need permission from the sunlight board to authorize this and they agreed that it was fine for our decision would you privately held land that might have public use like I did bring that up to them they have yet to get back to me the owners of that property they are not opposed to it but they are interested in hearing more about what it would mean to them if it was if it was something something was found because at that point the property of parcel would be considered Brownfield taking that to court I so they are open to it there is always the risk that an assessment is made and someone dropped a can of oil and just so happens that we sampled that one piece of land that would lead to other tests but I don't take this one too I move we authorize two rivers to include Brantwood and its Brownfield assessments in the county I'm sure there has been a distance from the river yeah and apply to all local state and federal regulations and I'll second for you I'll second all those in favor vote sustained motion carries special appropriations policy update this was during the west of the 40 versus 47 days the statute was changed to oh yes do we need to discuss it can I just keep on a roll I think you could just keep on rolling I don't think this one requires a whole lot of thought does it a little language a little language there were two changes the first change is to make this compliant with state law the second change is to essentially make it more difficult for anyone for any organization to come to the town and request an appropriation directly from the taxation process and then turn around and apply for special appropriations this will this proposed change would allow the town to essentially tell this organization we will work with you in good faith we will find money through the taxation process to give to you but they have to commit to not going to the special appropriations process currently if an organization comes to the town select board and they make this promise there is nothing to essentially hold their feet to the fire this would allow the select board and the town to say well we asked you not to do this you agreed we can't stop them from going to the special appropriations process but you can however reduce the total amount that was appropriated through the tax process who's going to go they can go one process or the other it's when they want to increase the amount of money they're getting they can go into the budget to get more money then they don't have to get the signatures of the voters but the whole system of special appropriations is set up in statute for a reason because if you want an increase you have to go back out and get enough people to support you getting that increase to get on the special appropriations ballot for an entire amount it's the need for the five percent so it's not sort of an effective thing like your bus those kind of things those projects that are over the years been supported by the community those appropriations wouldn't really have to bear in on that much or not only if they decided they wanted to come in and get a budget aligned with them also and then the town could still fund both but if you get into a tight budget here it gives you that feeling good to say sorry but would take those ends I should mention that prior to the start of the meeting I received an email message from the town attorney although he did not have any problems with the language that was introduced for the work of the sitter he did make some changes in that he made a few bold items he italicized a few things so I'd like to essentially say that what you have in front of you is although it's accurate it's not the version that our attorney sent to us and that he doesn't have the captions in the bold it's all in here it's just not in the format he returns yes this is whether a word is italicized or both they can make a difference it's not really making a difference I don't think it's necessary to see it telling not substantial changes to language just piloting it's a way we can approve this with a follow up to get that final language and how we do that well we could always just approve the date change and then together for a little meeting for a number of days but the italicized and the bold is stuff that's already in there that's right it was in the old policy whatever it is if I could suggest partially what Michael suggested was to approve the date change according to the state and then also just say well conditionally approve the language so long as it's concurrent with what our attorney would apply with when you're applying so this way if there are any substantial changes we'll have to look at it but otherwise if there are not any changes it would apply that comes to us procedure anyway I moved to do that so I'll make a motion for the special appropriation policy from the 40 to the 47 calendar days then understanding that was some final language of the administrative edits some taxing and so forth so final opinion we'll work through the alpha first rate, second rate motion and second all those in favor aye that was the same this is a approval change to 40 to 47 days I need to review other changes style and future we have four requests for grants the East Randolph community group has requested from the town its support to apply for a grant to the preservation trust of Vermont the group is aware of the amount of work that will require to bring East Randolph Hall back into compliance and this grant through our conversations is one of the first steps that we need to to take this grant will allow the group to have a foundation study performed the town would approve the town would provide a $500 match preservation trust of Vermont would provide the other $500 and the entire foundation assessment would be done for $1,000 and at this point we will have a clear understanding of what the foundation is like we have to form a property inspection that has that there are issues with the foundation we just don't know exactly how bad the issues are and the preservation trust of Vermont will help us to through an expert figure out exactly how hard just applying just applying yes to clarify if the board were to approve the preservation trust grant it would also need to approve a $500 match which we do have through the facilities reserve fund we currently have money put aside for repairs of East Randolph Hall we can use it we can also use it we've got work on that over there who took the lead on that I'm just curious Mark Josie Carruthers we've got Mark Sluss he has been working with preservation trust Betsy Brace is also involved that whole group so they're all connected now they're all on the same page same group we'll take a motion to approve that request and provide the matching $500 if needed second motion to the second all those in favor aye post please this is a request that was submitted the request is that there's a failing dry hydrant in the town a TJ Riley who's worked with the town in the past to install this dry hydrant the hydrant that was installed late last year is malfunctioning and the request is that the town applied for this grant mostly because the grant can't be issued to a private property owner so the private property owner has agreed to pay for any matching costs for repairs it just would like the town to apply for the grant on their behalf act as in between usher the funds from the road protection district to the work that's being done and then all costs would be covered by the property owner any costs that would be incurred by the town would be covered by the private property owner this is a hydrant he's framed up they've worked for years you get the grant to install it and they installed it but I know that the email that Troy sent had a bunch of stuff they think something came apart in it so he's willing to give a grant was this on the front porch for a couple weeks ago somebody was looking for a screwdriver for one of these projects something else they need to dig it up and look and see where it came apart so they think there also might be a part that failed but Troy was willing to give a grant for the $500 to cover the cost of it but it is the one we did last year including $5,000 $5,500 or something he gave did this one go through fire advisory this week? not this week but we've talked about it before I think there was conversation about the validity of the dry hydrant whether it was useful or not but because it wasn't cost to count anything the decision was there was no reason to oppose it because it's there and we ever need it we could use it well each town goes into a list and so if we accept grant funds we go to the bottom of the list so we have the dry hydrant that comes up he said this wouldn't really impact anything this is his way of getting basically the money to do the warranty work is how he was really going in and normally if we accept it the $5,000 to put in a new hydrant we drop I think we're already still dropped we're working our way up the list this is I don't know if he explained it that they know it's not in the main line going into the pond they think it's somewhere in the hydrant itself and the chances are in the grant because they're going to figure out it's mechanical and put it back on the manufacturer but the grant is just so TJ doesn't have to pay the $500 out of pocket if the repairs end up being something that's not wanting to that's what I got out of it that's right there's no further risk to down it doesn't drop to that level I'm fine with it it's the fire guys they're going to let them be allowed alright, I'll make a motion for the tri-hat so $500 I remember exactly wait 18 seconds motion in the second all those in favor it was the awful time to write it was the awful time to write it was the awful time to write oh I see what you're doing it was the awful time to write alright when does the town this next one, the restorative justice grant when does the town get to re-evaluate this whole program if they just keep giving it to us as an amendment each year this will be the fourth year that they've just amended amended so you don't get to look at what the town doesn't get to say anything about the program yeah the reason for this this increase is that we have been vocal with the program coordinators in saying that although we appreciate the work that they're doing we don't feel that Randolph should be the final destination for the certain population they agreed they thought it was not being insensitive to the population that was being serviced through this grant the local program coordinator that works with the town also has expressed an interest in making this a countywide grant so this way it's not just the town of Randolph that's servicing this group the reason why they're requesting this extension is because they want to go back out to bid so that they move out of Randolph and you're no longer just sole recipients of the target population made it very clear that again, we appreciate the work but we want to share the wealth on this one and they understood they just asked for six more months so they can go out to bid and find a new home for it because COSA all good things it's folks who is sex crimes basically when they come to get out of prison right now because we have a program here that resides in Randolph so when we say we want to share the wealth like those that were offenders from Bradford and Kinga back to their hometown and not all have to reside in town on Randolph I'm familiar with this because I get solicited to hire them that's kind of some of the thought behind making them increase the size of the area they're covering in the training means to be shared yeah, okay but in the meantime we have to extend the grant the way it is to cover some salary I believe at this point there are roughly about 10 to 20 members of this particular population in the town she's working with some others that are still here that have graduated graduated big group did it take six months to do this bid? uh yeah, it takes so that's on probably not we've said to them that if the board agrees to the extension that we would reach six months and the contract itself says that we could give them notice and then just terminate this is just more out of good will and saying we'll work with you for the next six months yeah so I'll make the motion to approve the grant for the start of just as your extension I'm sorry most of them second all those in favor okay just a highway and storm water mitigation grants the town recently learned that this grant opportunity is available it will allow us to apply for funding to build in a salt shed and the village highway structure that shed is in need of a lot of improvements and we really could use a new shed that's just one of the projects that we could apply for we would have to work with our highways and pretend to see if this project or another highway project could be a priority but we would like the board's approval to be able to apply for funding through this grant with the salt shed and being the top the top priority this is the same program that they're also using to do all the riprap and the dishes and that kind of stuff it also does storm water mitigation doesn't it fall into that category well there's also better roads better roads also does so why would that have to we missed the most recent one but we do have one for not hollycock Brainsree Hill so we have a $26,000 grant for that I think we should accept the request for municipal highway and storm water mitigation grant we have all the red items it's all good in favor? hi old business reasonable control well hybrid directed the select board approved the signing of this letter at the last meeting but it was not signed by the board so quite a pass that it would be signed and I put it in the signature pocket that's the only reason why it's on the agenda we'll remain for the LED project so this is the one we got is there any changes after no changes there were no changes from the attorneys that shared this with the panel our attorney I shared my concern with our attorneys on page 2 the very top track change talks about potential contaminants or chemicals anything that could be used on the site that could contaminate the area I shared with our attorney that I was concerned with for example if we used any kind of fire retardant or any other issue that was needed to fight fire or anything that we needed to do this particular language prohibits us from using our attorney right before the start of the meeting an updated version the language was essentially the same but he did add a caveat at the end of that sentence that made the exception for fire protection fire prevention there was a concern in that the actual easement deed didn't actually make it to the town it didn't make it to my desk until yesterday I believe it was late Tuesday so we didn't want to essentially pass it on to the board to say you have to consider this the last minute because it's needed but I also wanted to make sure that the board was aware that this actually made its way to the town I'll be at it a little late and necessarily do as much time for you to review it is the same project that we've been talking about the water main from Engle Road further down and this is just addressing the very first portion of it that only covers all the way up to the end of the Freedom Foods building and not the second portion of it so basically the edge of the parking lot from the edge of the parking lot is what this piece covers yeah that's what this piece covers there's no language in here though there's actually language that says it's a non-exclusive right away there's nothing in there to prohibit them from bearing fiber line right on top of our water line so that when we go to dig up our water line guess what else we're going to get we talked about not being able to put additional utilities within a certain proximity of that water line oh that would be for the this is for the existing water line the one that's already there I see what you're saying that even with this one you can still bury more into it we're going to continue in line to be burning into that problem from the diesel road up to the edge of the parking lot yeah we have resolved the issue from the edge of the parking lot to LED in that they have agreed to remove the utilities in this section I'd have to re-read it to look at the point that you're making sure you bought yeah it could be that there is a utility easement here that I just had to see but I do know that for the second portion that we have main decoration we're going to decide I'm still up there and we've solved it why would we do this to begin with we would do it because we LED needs to be hooked into that water line as well as anything else that they need water out there for I don't know plus 30 years from now somebody else will go out there but I don't get that that's the the gist of the reason they're doing it the only other thing that would there already happened to pay for you includes a chunk of the cost for that water line anyway right so I wish should we even get in the middle of it I understand is it to preserve the ability to put more on but they don't have to I would say 2 and a half 2 and a half as far as we're thinking over here that was 222 so let's say 3 years round off okay in another year at least so before something can be built I'm just not sold on doing it especially if they're paying them a bunch of money to look into it anyway my understanding is they have they had to pay them 50% of the construction cost if I remember correctly yeah that's pretty typical I mean that's a standard thing pick up the half of the cost of developing the line which I think is fair but to me everything's already done taking care of they get the maintenance from there up they split the maintenance from there down it ends up costing us money in the long term our attorney's fees to develop it our maintenance and everything when something may never go out there so maybe they should pay the town the $17.5 I said that at the last meeting as long as we're getting the $17.5 sure let's take it over oh absolutely no it's been a pretty I think we've had it over here again Monday and finalize this so what does it do to their full scheme if the town doesn't take that money over uh it would create problems in that they are anticipating the town being able to take over this entire main line there are the financial implications of already being finance is being exchanged between LED and free foods the issue itself is very complicated the way the players are already involved so the town not agreeing to do this would add some complications I wouldn't say that it would jeopardize the project altogether but it could create considerable problems between all of the players involved between free mountain between free foods between my beginnings so they're they wouldn't stop the project but if they paid them the money already didn't they have some sort of agreement that says we can hook in we'll split these costs these costs are ours didn't they already cover all that did they just say wait the town ran off going to bail us all out of this argument I could check because if they didn't have an agreement in place to begin with that's on that so they already have an agreement there's legal agreements that have to be so if they already have the agreement time and they're all set I just don't think we should get involved in it I don't see a benefit for us what's the cost to to take this on I don't have that you're on the table there okay, some party left yeah what's our exposure to taking it on I'm kind of on the side of this, it's like okay we're here, we're moving forward we want to encourage economic development I don't want to be in a situation where we're holding them back any further because I do know that right now there have been some issues down there and that's why things haven't happened yet so I want to see the project move forward where are we at risk here long term exposure is that the whole break is completely on the hook of fixing we could be anywhere from digging one small area patching it up to an entire completely new piping which would require $10,000 30 years out the line itself is relatively new so there are some years of what's the line constructed I was going to say that Chris and Marty reviewed this line to see if it meets something that if we were to install it, we can get the same standards we set the standards we set the standards in the beginning I know, we set the standards though I know when it went in because there was that whole push back from little you didn't want to have to do the size and whatever but it was sized according to be able to take on experience for future development right but I don't know like Mike said, what do you actually mean? Well, is there any as-builds to this? I mean, do we know? So have we I mean, seems like that might be something we should look at, is okay, where are the engineering plans that shows how this was built, right? You should want to see that, I would think I don't think that's unreasonable to ask for I mean, I could certainly have that conversation with them and I know Marty's been involved in the process I'm going to have as much information as she does maybe that's an answer Marty can give us relatively quickly So I don't see it taken on as a huge liability for the town to take it on other than any future maintenance issues but you're the engineering type of person so Just from a financial standpoint, we're going to take it on and we're not going to see any increase in revenue we're just going to see an increase in expenses so to me, it's a net loss Well, an increase in expenses if you have to maintain it right? Everything has to be maintained I understand, but we're talking lots of years of revenue here from But it's the same revenue, what are we taking on? I got that part too, I understood that it's the same revenue way I could ask Marty to provide me with more detail and I could share it with the board in terms of the engineering specs the material that the pipe whatever it is I could share with the board When we were asked to take this on, was this a result of the whole process of moving that project forward down there? Yes It would make it easier for the town to and also for the developers to develop in the future We need to expand the potential business part area add more businesses into that area which may be a problem in the future but I understand To speak to Mike, your point of guest, there is the risk that I could break the day after we take it on It could not break for 20, 30 years but the downside is we do assume that risk The benefit is if we do have potential developers that want to come in very soon we can expand the water system even if they offered to pay for it So I guess from a general planning perspective where we live for quite a while the owners of the property or subdivisions maybe they took on all the costs all the risk whatever the home owners or the business businessmen bought the land for their structures To me, it's not a town road it's all private property this is lucky developing his property appropriately and to me that burden should fall on him or his business to be taken down but that's just the opinion I don't think I'm going to have a vote on this one unless they have a vote The work that was done from the printer to Freedom Foods was part of their project and it was part of the grant the CBG grant which you could argue they should enable the charge that was going to be my point it was part of the CBG grant and how did they get the charge for that I don't want to play it or anything I understand how that might have occurred I'd like to see the engineering just to see what is it is it an HPE pipe or is it a metal or what is it because I had to do the black stuff which for the last 100 years, ain't it No That's what I told them when I bought it They don't put in the stuff that lasts 100 years they had construction issues I could certainly see the reducing size I think it's a possibility I don't know enough to know they had construction issues I'd like to see what's in the grant then that should be real easy to find I think to get more info Can I ask you another clarification on this wording for all the cabinets and what they're not allowed to bring into the easement while they're doing construction and all that they're allowed to do that out on the actual construction area they just can't do it from the road they can't store it they can't do certain kinds of maintenance That's what I'm asking on the road to freedom for those So we're going to see the other easement at the same time so we can make sure they're concerned We can't do it because it doesn't mean we can it doesn't mean we can because we're the ones who can't do it because they shouldn't be in that area to begin with they wouldn't be operating under our easement they would be operating under the other easement because they should be similar they should be the same I had expressed concern with one over the other what was explained to me that I did not necessarily agree with was that it's a part of the process this one goes first and the next one goes and I thought well this is all we should all look at it the same there was conversations about whether or not to include this on here what we put it in here again just so that we could have this discussion we could go back and not encourage the board not to make a decision right away just to have the conversations so that when we bring it up later on it's an actual conversation with what the board needs just specs engineering all right other business not for me though the only item I have under other business is we still have a set of dates to meet to go over priorities goals retreat to set direction put dates out there and we didn't make it to anything well Saturday I would not during golf season while you're needed yeah that'd be perfect talk about the two of you the most great so in all honesty I'm hoping to 24th of August travel how much time are you thinking is this like a afternoon maybe three hours if that it's just what we want to focus on what we want to get done it plays into any ability direction to some of these groups who work with them so one of the things that comes to mind is RACDC they have a whole list of the downtown program but we haven't said this is our priorities so it's hard to work and give them a direction just give them a plan if we haven't said this is what we want to have okay I guess 24th I'm gone I'm here next week on two weeks and on travel three weeks so I am officially in town we do the 30th of August we've already been called to do that it's healthy popular isn't it retirement is only 20 years away I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 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