 So the first question that came in was, and I'm going to hand this one over to you, how can we help normalize the fact that we are all impacted by mental illness, whether directly or through those around us? Oh wow, that's a very good question, isn't it? How can we normalize the fact that mental illness impacts on everybody, whether we have it ourselves or someone else? Yeah, there's a little exercise that if you happen to this training of ours, that we're doing one of our trainings in which we get people in the second period to move around the room. So basically what has happened is they sit in their chairs in the morning and once they become comfortable in the afternoon after the break, we ask them to pick up their stuff and move to another place if they choose to do so or to just, you know, if they don't want to move, they can stay, but we highly encourage that they move. And you can observe people, you know, some of them pick it up quite quickly and they move to another place. Other people, hesitantly, they understand the benefits of the pick up, begrudgingly go and move to another place and some of some other people say, no, I'm not going to move. It's usually in the minority, but some people say, I'm not going to move. And then we talk, once we have done that, we ask them to notice how they feel. And people look inwards to see how they feel. And we ask them the reason why they changed and what did they notice now that they have changed. And, you know, the interesting thing that I want to highlight here is the people that never move. They believe always that they haven't changed. But then we notice in the discussion that even those people that haven't moved have been impacted by other people moving around. So whether you want it or not, if you may choose not to change yourself, but the world changes around you. And that comes to the question, you know, we may not personally suffer mental illness at one point, but it doesn't change the fact that other people around us, their world changes. And by their world changing, that's going to impact us out of necessity. So do we need to normalize it? I think what I don't have you here to ask you exactly what you meant by that, but I'm going to guess that normalizing you meant to say, how can we bring it into awareness that whether it's impacting us directly or not, this has a very much an impact on everyone in the community. And I am a firm believer that that is the correct approach, you know, whether we have been personally impacted by mental illness directly because we have suffered from it. Like in my case, I did suffer from a mental health issue, bipolar depression, and I recovered. But that impacted everybody around me. It impacted on my kids, it impacted on my wife, it impacted on my community, on my church. Everything was impacted by it. Not because I was annoying or I was trying to do that. It's just simply when one of us is not well, we're not well. That's a community. What are your thoughts? Well, to come to how do we normalize mental health out there in the world? And I guess I immediately thought, do we want to normalize it? What do we mean by normalize? And it's interesting because working in this field, I'm talking about mental health all day. I'm talking about well-being all the time I see it online everywhere. It's part of my world. So for people like myself who work in this industry or who are very much associated with it, perhaps in HR or whatnot, it is becoming much more and more a normal conversation. And yet there's still pockets in different industries, in different locations globally where there's still taboo, there's still stigma, there's still just not a normal everyday conversation that people are having. So if we say, how do we normalize it? I think it's important that we normalize it in a way that we appreciate that people have ups and downs, that that's part of life and that it's acceptable for that to happen. There's no shame or anything around that. And at the same time, we don't want to normalize it in the sense that we then don't do anything about it. So we don't want to make it so normal that everyone's depressed and we just live like that. We want to know how do we move from that position back to health, back to wellness, back to happiness, meaning fulfillment and all those wonderful things. So we don't want to make it normal to be unwell, but we do want to make it normal that it happens from time to time and we can talk about it. Does that make sense? Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. Good. Hi, I'm Emmy Golding, Director of Psychology for the Workplace Mental Health Institute. We hope you liked the video. If you did, make sure to give it a thumbs up. We have more and more videos being released each week. 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