 And so now the only thing that I have that's like real money coming in is for this next little while is this festival that I'm doing, but that's not going to pay me until March. So as soon as that law and order money comes in, that's what's going to keep me afloat until this festival pays me out. And then that's when this is going to keep me afloat, but I'm still trying to put money aside so that I can build on other projects that I want to invest in, for example, my own podcast, which is going to cost a little bit of money to start off with, which you know what I mean? So like you're constantly, like for me though, that I think that the key thing is, is that I keep reinvesting in myself. Welcome to the Sevo show where we have guests from local spots, national spots and international spots. And I believe the very first Canadian on the show today. Her name is Alia Kanani, rhymes with punani. Probably heard that one a million times, but here we go. And I'm going to do something different today. I'm going to see if I can bring it close and find your line and see where you take and see if I can get you. Sure. And I don't know what will happen, but I'll see how I go. OK. Warning, this episode and most of my podcasts is lighthearted slash dark humor. And anything I say is a joke. So if you think I'm saying something to offend anyone, yes. But in a funny way, Alia, you're from Toronto, Canada. Thank you for flying all the way here to be to be on this podcast. Honestly, it's really make sure that you like plug into the Patreon. It's spent. He's spent a lot of money to bring me on as a guest when I make one. I will definitely start that as a day as a clip. So I've done the research, but I've also seen a few clips where people ask you, where are you from? And when you say Canada, they they look like they're disappointed. And then they say, where are you from? From hence the name of one of your shows. So where is the ethnic darker skin from? So straight into it. Straight into it. Straight into it. I'm just I'm just spending a lot of time in the unprotected ozone. No, my family, my origins, the look is from India, as far as we know. Amazing. About 150 years ago, I'm part of the diaspora. Cool. See, that's why I ask this question. There's no racism. There's no cultural insensitivity. A little bit. A little bit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I actually, you know, I love curry. I, you know what, bro, as long as you eat it with non and not non bread. Exactly. Why not? Non means bread. So every time I hear people say non bread, I'm like, you sound like an idiot. It's like saying chai tea. It's like a thing, bro. It's a thing. It's like chai is tea. You guys are just saying tea, tea, bread, bread. Everybody sounds like they're like, you know what I mean? So you're born there. But I was born in Canada. I was born in Belleville, Ontario, which is a tiny little town just outside of Toronto. My family so immigrated from India to Tanzania, East Africa. The couple generations before me. There you go. And so my, like my grandparents, my parents, like, you know, born raised there. And then my sisters and I were the first generation born in Canada. And then we kind of did like a backwards thing where we moved to Tanzania when I was 14 years old, because I think my dad was just like, things are not working out. Let's see if we go back and see what happens. What do you mean not work out? What happened? Oh, just like, I just, I mean, I think that he needed some support to, you know, kind of get through some some things. But we moved around a lot growing up. What did they do? What did they do for the moving around part? What was their job? Oh, so my dad was just a businessman. Honestly, sometimes when I describe it, I'm like, was he a drug dealer? I'm like, maybe for a little while. Was he running from the law? Potentially. But we just, yeah, we just moved around a bunch. When we moved to Tanzania, we actually moved in with my aunt, who had a business which was like she was a swimming instructor. And my dad had run a few restaurants by then. So it was like a place called Splashtown. And it was in our backyard. So there was the house we lived with my aunt, my uncle, my sisters and my dad. And in the backyard, there was like a massive swimming pool and like a kid's pool and a jacuzzi. And then there was a restaurant in the back. So my dad ran the restaurant, my aunt run the swimming classes. And every Sunday morning, I would wake up with like children screaming, Papa, look, they like go down the water slide. I'm like, shut up. And that's why I don't have kids. There you go. See, that's how it's set up. So traveling around and having all these different experiences and your dad in hospitality and your mom in drowning children. Yeah, you have a lot of stories. Yeah. And you being a comedian, has that helped with the writing side of things? Oh, for sure. I mean, honestly, like, I think that that both. I think that both like it's inspired a lot of like the experiences that I have, because I've gained a lot of perspective just from like the experiences that life has given me, which I'm so grateful for. I've always said, I'm like, I feel so rich in the experiences of life because of all of the different stuff that we've done growing up. And then I did since, you know, I mean, I've always been a bit of a nomad. And so then after that, I became a flight attendant and I continued traveling. Yeah, for like about a decade, I was a flight attendant. And so I did that, which also allowed me to, you know, have a lot more experiences. Like one of the things I say in my show is like I've probably met more people than most people would in, you know, 10 lifetimes just because of my circumstances. How good, you know, and like, how cool is that? Like I, I, I, I, most of what I know, what I've learned, what I've experienced. It all comes from other people's experience in life. I just talk to everyone, you know what I mean? So I've like collected all these experiences through people, which I feel like is, you know, and then also just because I've I've I've always been in positions and situations where I'm just like talking to people that I don't know, talking to strangers, having to deal with, you know, situations and navigate things, whether it was like, you know, on a work side where I have to like be able to like, you know, figure out how to like make sure the vibe of the airplane is not chaotic because we just found out that one of the engines is not working. How that's happened. Yeah. Or. OK, let's let's dive into that. Or, you know, right. But also, but or on the flip side, where I'm like in some place, I don't know, you know, in some city and country that I've never been to where I don't speak the language and I am lost and I need to find help. You know what I mean? And I like so like in all these different circumstances, I just I learned how to interact and connect with people. And so I think that that that really has a lot of survival skills. And honestly, so let's go back to the engine. I didn't know you were a flight attendant. Yeah, and the best part about working there for a decade and no longer working in there, you can give me some juice. Can you give me some juice? Yes. Sure. What juice would you like? All of it, all of it. I do they lose your bags on purpose? No, no, no. OK, OK. So I do some interviews outside in the street and I interviewed these two flight attendants probably about six months ago. OK. And they were pissed, which in Australia means drunk. Oh, OK, right. Yeah. Pissed. I was thinking mad. Yeah. So some Australians go I had Dave Dave Hughes on the show the other day. We said some Australians or Australians slang is let's go drink some piss, right? Right. And if you say that in Canada or America, they were like, the fuck. Why would I drink urine for? Yes. But here it's alcohol. Anyway, they were pissed, meaning they were drunk. And they were having a good time. They wanted to be involved. They grabbed the mic and I said, what's what's the pet hate when you're a flight attendant? And they're like, yeah, when someone shits and leaves the door open and and then the other girl said, when someone goes through and we check the seats, we're not there to tell you where your seat is. We're just making sure you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A dumb ass and put on the wrong flight. I do a whole bit on that. Anyway, yeah. Anyway, that was good. Yeah, I posted it like a couple of days later. Yeah, it started going viral. Oh, really? And then I was at an event, a basketball event. Both of them came to the basketball event trying to find me to tell me to take it down because I wasn't on my phone all day. I wasn't on Instagram looking in my DMs. And yeah, I took it down. But that's so funny. So I have this kind of unofficial rule sometimes. We're just going to cost somebody their job, Yovina. No, if you're drunk and I interview you. Yeah, it's kind of like it's not consent. Right, right, right, right, right, yeah. And then I would be and I was working in nightclubs, interviewing people in nightclubs and literally every second video that I did, I was like, this is gold. Posted it, they would contact the club. And they're like, yeah, I need to take it down. Oh, no. I was drunk. You didn't have my permission. And then in the camera, I'm like, do I have your permission to record this? Yeah, if I want to be on the thing. And then the next day, they're like, yeah, I was drunk. I don't consent. I, you know what? I feel like that's like a really good little hack that I can keep in my back pocket. Every time I do a podcast, I'm like, I might be drunk right now. If I say something I didn't like, I'd be like, I was super pissed. I told you I was drunk at the beginning. Yeah, please take it down. Yeah, please take it down. So we could be wasting our time today. But I'm going back to the flight attendant stuff. Well, let's go. Let's go through it. Well, tell me the tell me the engine failure story. I've always been curious about this. How do you alert the passengers or does the captain because because I know that sound means hey attendants, pick up the phone when I need to talk to you. That's the thing because I figured that out. But the captain obviously tells you first. Yeah. And then and then it's your job to. Can you imagine like in the middle of serving coffee and then I just hear it announces that the captain say like the end of like. No, we know about that. And I'm like, well, you know, you would probably feel it or you could hear it kind of not necessarily. Like you can hear if you really are. But like when you're, you know, you would hear it more like, you know, through the flight, like you don't necessarily like hear the engines of the airplane. It's like take off and landing. That's that's really when they wrap up. It was really more just a shut off. It wasn't like a flaming thing. No, it wasn't a flaming thing, thankfully. But I've had a bunch of stuff happen, dude. Like I so here we go. Here we go. This is what I want to hear. This is OK. So this is probably the most epic one because it was so early in my career. So when the company that I used to work for, you could be an in charge flight attendant, which is like the head flight attendant, or you could be like the regular flight attendant because you're qualified for both. So it would just depend on how you're scheduled. Was it Delta or Southwest? Neither. I've made it out of here. I wish it was Delta. I heard Delta is a really good company to work for, actually. Southwest. We'll get back to that. OK. So but so then I'm I'm on the the list as the in charge for this one. I've been working for the company for not even six months at this point. I'm still on probation. OK. And so I'm brand spanking you. And it's my first time being the in charge, which is already kind of nerve wracking because you're the one that's now like making sure that, you know, all the security safety checks are done, you're communicating with the captain, you're doing like all this stuff. And it's like not, you know, like rocket science, but you're still nervous already kind of, you know, your first time getting in a position where you're like, yeah. So now here we are, you know, I'm doing this at the flight attendant who walks in that I'm working with. She walks in in just the most like horrid mood. OK. We're now good friends, like I adore her, but she walks in, slams her bag, starts swearing about how she wasn't supposed to be going here, walks her back to the airplane. She's doing her checks, but slamming fucking everything. And I'm like, oh, good, great. This is going to be a great flight, right? So it turns out that she was actually supposed to go somewhere else. But because of the snowstorms that were happening, she got rerouted and her husband and her kid were going to meet her at the hotel and like have like a play date at the swimming pool because only like an hour and a half drive from where they lived. And now the whole thing is botched because they're there and she's getting sent somewhere else. And it was like a whole thing. So I understand why she was in a pissed off mood. So anyways, I'm like, any chance you want to be the in charge? And she was like, not a chance in hell. And I'm like, OK, great, I'll take it. I got this, right? So now the flights are delayed, blah, blah, blah. We get on the airplane, we take off. And then as we're meant to land in the city that we were landing in, which was Winnipeg, there's a massive snowstorm and they call it a whiteout where it's like there's so much snow, you cannot see the runway. Right? So we do what's called a missed approach because we're like going to approach onto the runway. But then as soon as it's like it gets white out and they realize that they can't safely make this landing, then they'll miss and then they'll come back. And then you know, you've got to wait for at least like 30 seconds to a minute before they're even going to contact you because they're busy doing their pilot things and making sure that everybody's safe. And then you get the call and they're like, hey, we just had a missed approach. This is the reason that we did it. Sometimes it could be for mechanical reasons. Sometimes it's weather reasons, whatever, right? So this is all part of the training that I remember. So I'm like, I, sick, I'll just hang tight, wait. They call me like, oh yeah, we just had a missed approach. We're going to circle back around and then we're going to try again. I'm like, I, cool, sick. So we do that. We miss again. Okay, a second time. Now I'm making announcements to the passengers just to let us know that this is completely normal. These are just the weather conditions. And sometimes, you know, you can't land because it's unsafe to land, but we are not unsafe. What would be unsafe is trying to land when we can't in these conditions. So everything is totally fine. Just going to take us a few more minutes to get to our destination than planned. Now we go to do a third time. We miss again. And then the captain calls and he goes, okay, so here's the deal. We can't land in Winnipeg because these conditions are too foul. And if we try again, we're not going to have enough fuel for an alternate. So what we're going to do is we're going to go to our alternate, which is Brandon, and we're going to go and land there. This is not a secured airport. So we are not allowed to get off the airplane. We are going to land there. They are going to refuel us and we are going to leave. And I'm like, all right, cool. So then we go to land in Brandon. We miss in Brandon because of the weather. And I'm like, then he calls me up and I'm like, so what's happening right now? And he's like, Aliyah, he's like, we just missed because of the weather, but we're going to go at it again. I'm like, and what happens if that we have another issue again? What's like the backup? He's like, you know, there's no backup. We have to land this time. We're out of fuel. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Just so the passengers will be landing momentarily. Sure, ladies and gentlemen, everything's super fine. Everything's great. Just we're going to land. We're going to land for sure this time. No choice, you know what I mean? But I'm not telling them all of that because that's just going to make panic. I'm just letting them know that we're going to land again. So then we landed Brandon and it was like a whole thing. It took them like 45 minutes to refuel us because they had this like little fuel truck for these like tiny little airplanes that they had to like pump us with and it just took forever. And then we finally got to Winnipeg. What was supposed to be like a three, three and a half hour flight ended up being 12 hours with these people on the airplane. But I also busted out all the business class while I didn't like fucking pour through the entire airplane. I was like, come on, bitches. Like we're here together, let's go. If I could drink, I would drink, drink on my back. So yeah, it was good. Far out. I mean, for me, my flight experiences, I just wish that I could get emergency exit for free. I know. Because six, 10. Yeah, I saw that as soon as I walked in, I'm like, this dude is, well, I would, you know, honestly, when I would see people like you walking to my plane, I would always, always, always try and get you a better seat because I've got really tall cousins and they used to tell me all the time about how shit it was. So I'd be like, you know, like, let me take care of these. But you know how you got like, if you're a big person and you need that second seat, you have to pay for it, right? And I'm just like, why isn't there a thing that if you're in above a certain height, you just automatically get put into the, you get priority for emergency. Like, I didn't choose to be tall. I was born to be tall. People choose to be bigger. That's gonna come back, you know? Not touching that one. It's a choice. No, but I feel you. I feel you, right? Like I do get what you're saying. I always did think that they should do that, but I had a lot of like ideas for what the airlines should be doing. You know what I mean? Like that. Well, I had an experience a month ago in Bali, right? And my wife and I were there on a work trip and I already got bombarded with work trip. Okay, I was literally there for a work trip. I was training some restaurant and how to use TikTok. That's what I do. Oh, really? Yeah, and yeah, we got on the night before it said, hey, your flight's delayed. I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, at least we knew that before we went to the airport. So it was delayed the whole day. So we went to get out of the, to the airport by like 7 a.m. We didn't get there until 5 p.m. And our takeoff time was meant to be like 7, 10 p.m. And I was like, cool, we got on the plane, started, got on the tarmac, and something's fucked with the instruments on the control panels. Like something's not turning on, like one of the TVs or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, fair enough, like safety precaution, like I'd rather be safe than sorry. You know, I get it. But we were there for like two hours. And then we disembarked, right? I actually said, de-planed in the video in my TikTok. Yeah. It actually went viral. It had like 2.5 million views. Oh, really? It was just a four and a half, like an hour to get our luggage back. Yeah, yeah. So I was just like, yeah. Anyway, long story short, we go back to the hotel. We were sweet the next day. The next day was delayed again by like an hour. But still, like jet-star, fuck off. Oh, it was, yeah, yeah, it was jet-star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, let's move on. We can talk about planes and shit all the time. I got so many funny airplanes, sorry. What's the one thing about passengers that you hated the most, like they did? Because there was a Reddit post that I saw and some of the answers from flight attendants were like, yeah, when I go past, don't like tap on the shoulder, stuff like that. What's your like biggest pet height back in the day? My biggest pet, you know, honestly, like I'm a very tolerant person. So I wouldn't say hate, you know what I mean? Because I just like, I also understand, like I've been on both sides of things. But I think that probably one of the most annoying things is when you're trying to tell somebody, talk to someone and they have their headsets on and you're like, you're like talking to them and they're like, what? And you're like, your headsets. And they're like, what? You're like, your headsets. And they're like, what? You're like, your headsets. And they're like, oh, what were you saying? You're like, of course you can't hear me with your headsets on and you're fucking blasting your music or you're like, movie. Would you like some water? You know what I mean? And what do you think I'm here for with this trolley? Like I'm trying to sell you life insurance, bro. Like what am I doing? You know what I mean? Like would you like to buy a house? Like real estate? Like what do you think we're doing here? You know what I mean with this trolley? But yeah, seats, I'd be like, yeah, absolutely. And then as they're moving their seat, I'd be like, that'll just be $50 for the seat change. And they're like, oh, what? I'm like, yeah, unfortunately, like the F-Post machine isn't working. So just cash only. And then they start realizing that I'm joking. I'm like, and I can't really provide you with a receipt. I don't tell anyone about this. I'd appreciate it. But yeah, I'll just take a straight 50. Side hustle. Yeah, I mean, I just like slowly watch them kind of whatever. Another one that I have, I remember I was sitting in the kind of side row emergency where it's like the doors there and then the toilets are right there. And me and my wife were sitting there. And one of the toilets, someone must have shit themselves or spewed everywhere or something. Because every time that, every time someone would come in, they would see, oh, open. Yeah, it's available. Cool. They'd come in like unexpected, open it up halfway in and I could just see their face. I had the perfect front row seat to everyone's reaction. Oh my God. And I was like, this is the best in-flight entertainment I've ever had. That's so funny. And we were just like, yep, cool. Next one, next one, next one. And then one of the flight attendants came in. And it was like, ooh. And then, you know, you can like do the auto lock from the outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They locked it. Come on now. This has ruined all the fun. If he's like, trust me, you don't want to see it. And I'm like, yeah, but I want to see people's reactions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so funny. So you say you have a bit about your flight attendant stuff. Yeah. How do you normally write your jokes? You know, honestly, I don't even know. I don't even know. Like, people ask me that question all the time. And I'm like, I just think of funny things, you know, like that make me laugh. And it just kind of comes to me like, so then if I have a chance and I might, you know, like hit an open mic and just go try it out and see where that beat lands. Yeah, so you test it. You know, and then I kind of just like, you know, go through my head and go, how could I say this funnier? How can I say this funnier? How can I say this funnier? You know, where can I add more punch to this, right? And so then that's where the process of like, and a lot of it, like I said, for me, I work shit out on stage a lot. Yeah. You know, because I kind of feel like that's where my funny comes out. Like my instinctive, like want, desire, need to make people laugh. Like I'll be on stage and I'll be like saying some shit that I kind of had an idea that was funny. And then naturally the punch will come out because I'll just see how people are laughing and reacting to it. But how do you deal with hecklers? How do I deal with hecklers? Oh, you know what? Honestly, I've been lucky enough that I don't really get too many heckles. I have had a couple that have been insane. But what I did when I first started doing comedy, I keep looking in, like I'm super cheesy. I'm like looking into the camera for the audience. Is that what we're supposed to be doing? Whatever you want, whatever you want. The ones that are just listening can't even see. Oh guys, well, if you're just listening, you're missing a lot of like camera, eye contact that's happening here, you know? She's actually nude. She's actually... I'm not just to be shitty. And so I had heard about this room and I was pretty new to comedy. And then one night, like I was like always, like mic after mic after mic, like you would see me everywhere just trying to like really, you know, like figure out how I had to do what I had to do. Cause I was like, yeah, that's the whole other thing. I was like, is this a career or not? Figure it out, go. So I was going to all the mics I could and then one Sunday I was going to this mic that got canceled. And then somebody told me they're like, well, why don't you just go danger room? That's the only one that's open tonight. And I was like, okay, so I went by and I got there and it was just dudes, just guys. There was no women, women don't go on the show. It was like a whole thing because I guess like, you know, like a lot of the heckles from people started becoming quite like shit and sexist or something. So I was like, all right, here we are. And it was just like a bunch of guys. And then I was like, okay, let me just, let me just do this. Let me just fucking go do this, just fucking go do this. And one of like the comedians that I knew, he's like, you got this girl. I'm like, yeah, I got this, I got this, right? He's like, just talk shit like you do when you're on the pool table. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'll do that, right? On the pool table. Yeah, when I play pool at the end of one of the mikes with him, I talk a lot of shit. He's like, just do that, just talk shit. I'm like, yeah, I got this. So I go to sign up. And the host, Dan Guyry, I go up to him and I'm like, hey man, I'd love a spot. And he's like, yeah, sure, you can sit anywhere you'd like. He's like, I was like, no, no, no, like a spot like on the lineup. And he was like, oh, you're a comedian? And I'm like, yeah, I'm like comedian. And he's like, sure, how do I spell your name? And I'm like, A-L-I. And as he's like writing it, he's like, do you want to just sit down for a couple of minutes? And I'm like, what? He's like, have you heard of this show? I'm like, yeah. He's like, why don't you watch for a couple of minutes before you decide to sign up? I'm like, how about you put my name down like everybody else's and I'll see what happens. And then he kind of looks at me because I just got defensive and I just told him off. And then I'm like, why did I just tell off the fucking hosts of the show? So now I'm on the list. He comes out to come and let everybody know all the comics that are waiting outside. There's like 30 of us waiting. He's like, hey, guys, this and I had a bunch of pros drop in. Today I just don't have space for all of you. I'm really sorry. But I'll try my best to get you on next week. He's like, I still have the spot for you, spot for you. Then he goes to me, he's like, and I still got a spot for you. But he's going to be short and dirty. And I'm like, great, great. Let's go. Tarama, 6th. What's that? Tarama. You know what I mean? So I go up there. I get on stage. And they have the, so the God Mike is like the Mike in the back of the room. So the God Mike is usually the host has it. He heckles you along with the audience. So they gave the God Mike to some drunk comedian who's now heckling me as I'm on stage. And I'm like, I'm going back at him, like fucking talking shit right back to him. Because I used to, I had like a bunch of guy cousins when I was younger that were like 10 years older than me. They were like, you can play with us. But if you get hurt and start to cry, you're never allowed to play with us again. Like be fucking tough. You know, I watched them make fun of each other. They were like, we'd play 21 basketball. These guys are like literally your height. I'm a freaking 11 year old girl. And they're like, no, you have to stand at the same line as the rest of us if you want to play with us. Like we don't make exceptions. You know what I mean? So like I had this tough stage. Yeah, you had trauma field, Emma. Yeah, you know what I mean? I told people that too. Like why do you go to the danger room? I'm like, because I come from abuse, this feels like home. Yeah. It's so familiar. Anyway, so I heckle, I heckle back this guy to the point where he finally gets off the Mike. Because I've just like made fun of him so much. And the audience is like kind of almost on my side at this point because they are seeing how much I'm handing it to this idiot. And then finally, when I get him off, I'm like, yo, where's the host of this show, bro? I thought I was supposed to be heckled by a professional. So he grabs the Mike, dad. I reminded him of this story the last time I saw him. He goes, OK, Aliyah, everybody's pretty impressed by your confidence for a woman. Of course, nobody wants to be heckled. And I've had moments like I had a TV taping where a woman started telling me a story in the middle of my fucking bit. Like literally started just insanity. Where in that moment, I was still so new and I knew it was a TV taping, the audience had been briefed not to interrupt. And nobody was interrupted until it was me. And I was on this TV taping with people who had been doing comedy for 20 years. I was already so intimidated on that lineup. I was the freshest one there. So that really, I was like, oh, but I handled it. And then since then, any time I've been heckled, I've been able to, just the other night, actually, here I got heckled. Yeah, in Perth, in Perth, in Frio, actually. I was in Frio. I got heckled in Frio. I was making fun of, man, I was making jokes. My set, I smashed, yeah. Every single joke is hitting. We're having such a good time. And then my last joke where I'm closing on a joke about the inner thigh gap. And I make a joke about the inner thigh gap being nonsense. Do you know what I mean? Classic female comedian talking about some female body parts. Body parts and shit. What are you going to do, right? Always something sexual than every female comedian. We have to. That's all we're so limited, guys. We have nothing to talk about except for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, and then she goes, she pipes up from the back. I think she thought she was being funny, to be honest. But she goes, I'm offended by that. And I was like, excuse me? And she goes, I'm offended by that. I'm like, about the inner thigh gap. And she's like, yeah. And she's like, I have one. I was like, OK, I'm like, good. I'm like, is it working for you? And she's like, yes. I'm like, good for you, sis. Then you shouldn't be offended. I'm like, plus this shit ain't about you. This is about me. So can we be back to me for a real quick second? And the audience just laughed about it, you know what I mean? And we just kind of moved on. At least she said that she was offended, not that's offensive. You know the whole Ricky Gervais thing? No. He goes, he hates when people say that's offensive. He comes back to them and goes, that's not offensive. You're offended. Yeah. At least she said it like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never heard that before, but I like that. There is a very distinct difference, for sure. For me, I've been asked to try it, to try a comedy, like Stand Up, Coming Forever. And I just don't, I have the worst kind of short-term memory. Well, not the worst, but I never really kind of have the confidence to overcome that. Not anything else. Like heckling, bombing, doing shit, it's forgetting. Right. That's the kind of pivot. But yeah, for me, I'll get there. I'll get there. I think I need to, it's like, I find shit so funny in my head. Right. Then when I tell someone else, I'll try to explain it. Yeah. I either over explain it and they get to the point. Right. Or I under explain it and then they don't get it. So I need to find that kind of middle ground. And it's also depending on what style I want to do. Is it quick and punchy, which I don't really find funny? Right. I like the kind of longer stories with a bit of sugar coating throughout the story, like Dave Chappelle does. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. And kind of like that mid-range, like my favorite comedian from your neighborhood, Jim Carrey. Yeah, yeah. I grew up just watching his stuff, listening to his routines and that. And I always would try to be funny at school. But I'd always be funny to my nerdy friends or the kids who are younger than me. Right. I was hilarious to them. But the ones that were my age, I was never funny to them. I couldn't understand why. Right. And then when I became a footy player, I was not funny at all to them. So the jocks and all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes I'd have like a genius moment and I'd feel like a million bucks when I got them to laugh. But I wasn't like in that. And I don't know, maybe that's my traumatic thing. Right. If I can't make everyone laugh, I don't want to try. Oh, see, that's where I would disagree. You know, like you can't, you're always going to find that there's like certain people that are going to be more into your stuff than others. Well, that's what I mean. Like on TikTok, 1.6 million followers. I have a whole bunch of people that think I'm interesting, funny, and I give value. Wow. On the internet. And I'm not saying that I can hide. But on the internet, you don't know who doesn't follow you. Right. And well, the ones that aren't your followers, I guess. But also the ones that don't like your stuff. I get heckled on there or hate comments. But I have, I'm not an in-the-moment sort of witch, I'm not witchy enough to like clap back quickly. Right. But in, I'm getting, and I feel like I'm practicing. Like I'm using online as practice. Like someone would comment and with enough experience, with enough time, because people become predictable. Right. They're not original. Right. Right. And you heard it all before. And the best thing is if you have the same heckle, but from a different person. Right. Jimmy Carr, is it Jimmy Carr? No, the one, the one, Jimmy Carr, I think it's Jimmy Carr. He, someone said, when does the comedy start? Oh yeah. And he goes, something about the guy, he just went or goes on this rant. And he goes, you see, there are people in this world who get a lot of women. There are guys in this world that get a lot of women. And, you know, they sleep with a lot of women and they're legends, they're legends. But it's not quite the same for females. Females who are considered ones that sleep around and get a lot of men, they're called your mum. And I was like, that is so good. But I can, I can tell that he's had that response before. Right. And he's practiced that heckle before. Right. You just go into automatic mode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I used to be a school teacher. So I got to practice that there. And I was hilarious to the kids. Okay. And my favorite kind of heckle for the kids when they would start disrupting my lesson. Before school, I would always walk my dogs, you know, go for a walk. And I'd always have, you know, poo bags left over in my pocket, not full ones, like empty ones still. And yeah, I'd take them to school. I just forget they're in my pocket. And a kid would be like, you know, so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like talking shit. Right. And I'd be like, hey, hey, hang on, get my poo bag out. I'm like, do you reckon you can just grab this and just talk into that? You know? And it would land with the year 10 to 11. The younger kids, no, they'd get offended. That's so funny. This goes so crying into the bag. But going back to like my comedy thing, like online, I'm getting a lot of experience. And then I feel like that will then transition into. Honestly, you know, and that's the biggest thing is just being open to that, right? Like I think that for, you know, folks ask me all the time about like, you know, my career path and how I came to get to hear, to hear, to hear. And it's just like, honestly, it's just being open to stuff all the time. And, you know, working towards the things that you want while also understanding that you may not even know what you want, you know, because you may not have experienced that part of life as yet, right? And I think that everything feeds to everything. So I'll give you an example. Yes. When I started comedy, folks right away were like, oh my God, look at her stage presence. She said natural, look at that stage presence. Yeah? Would you be walking around or how would you be doing? Yeah, I walk around and very confident. I got the mic, I'm doing my thing, you know what I mean? And I do have that stage presence. But everybody always said it was natural. And I'm like, bro, I spent 10 years on an airplane, making announcements, facing passengers who are all looking at me, announcements in English and French, you know what I mean? Two passengers and having to control the energy of the room, sometimes delivering shit news on an already shit day, we are further delayed, ladies and gentlemen, and needing to do so in a way to keep them calm, keep them listening to me, make sure that they follow any instructions that I give them, and all of this. You think that I can't get on stage with confidence trying to make people laugh after that shit? You know what I mean? So it wasn't a natural stage presence, it was just that I learned it in a different setting. And so everything that you're doing on your TikTok right now is also gonna feed into whatever you're doing for your comedy, you know what I mean? In different ways, we never know how life is going to teach us what we use in the future. But all of these experiences that we have, and that's what I was saying to you earlier, like I feel so, like it was a gift to have so many experiences in life because you never know what those things are gonna do, but they always end up feeding into something else that evolves into what you create, right? The other thing as well for comedy, for that style of comedy, and for my personal journey, I never really liked doing anything unless I see myself pushing for the top. Yeah. Like, like seriously, for the top. Like anything I do, like when I played footy, I wanted to get into AFL. I got it to semi-professional, and I was looked at by scouts, and then I had a knee injury, and then I started losing the passion, and then just, I fell out of it. Because as soon as I thought, you know what, I'm not going for the top anymore. What's the point? Yeah. And others would disagree, and they would say, you know, it's camaraderie, it's fun, it's an experience, and you gotta try it. And I will try it still, one day. Playing footy. No, comedy, stand-up comedy. But I just, I have this mindset that if I'm not wanting to be the best, I don't want to try it. Like, the thing is though, when you need to try it to see if you like it, to then go to that, on that pursuit of, you know, becoming one of the top tier people. I mean, so I guess that that's interesting that what you're saying, and I, you know, absolutely I get it, like kudos to having that kind of ambition, but who's interviewing who now? So I guess I have a question. I'm not saying that if you're not aiming to be the top female comedian. Is there such a thing? Can women be funny? Well, I mean, not yet. I'm trying to actually prove that women might be a little funny. Yeah, is there a female Netflix specialist? No, no, in fact, I mean, the fact that women talk at all is just, it's a poll. Western countries, it's a thing now. You guys are really, you're ruining it for the rest of them, do you know what I mean? Stop this progression. No, but I guess, like, what is the best? What do you consider the best measured by whom? What? Okay, go on, go on, tell me that one. Okay, so. Sorry for the interruption, but this show would not be possible without the help of Bright Tang Brewery. They are the major sponsor of the Sevo show. Huge shout outs to them. Check them out. Great beers, great people, great everything. And well, let's get back to the episode. So the start of it is a little, so as I mentioned, I was a flight attendant. Yeah. And my whole thing was, I just, I wanted to travel the world. I really wanted to see the world. I was, you know, on my own since I was young, I didn't have a lot of, you know, means, we grew up poor. Still alone? Huh? Still alone? Still? Still alone? Am I still alone? Yeah. In life? Right now? Yeah. Like single? No, I have a. Again, I'm trying to find that line. Can I tell you something hilarious, which I'm going to turn into a bit, by the way. I haven't figured out how. I'm filling out this fucking, you Australians, I swear to God, I'm filling out the Australian Visa application, yeah? And so it comes up with the question about your status. Right? And then asks, are you married? Are you de facto? Are you divorced? Are you never married? Are you widowed? Yeah, do you start crying? And I'm like, Why can't it just be single? Why never married? Why is there a judgment on this one? Like they didn't say like, instead of widowed, you didn't write like, is your wife dead? You know what I mean? Or like instead of divorce, like you fuck shit up and you cheated and you couldn't work it out. Like why for this, the one for single? Why does that be like never married? Like why does it have to be so judgy? It was so funny to me, but yes, I'm still alone. No, no, I'm in a relationship. You know my dude actually. So I. Imagine glazing over. The box got married, realized I was gay. You know what I mean? Divorced and I killed her. I'm a widowed. I just like, honestly, like they, they should, they should, if they're going to be explicit, they should be explicit about all of them. And I want like a bunch of scenarios. Yeah. You know, I want to be able to turn around and like petition to add more scenarios and be like, I don't feel represented by this fucking drop down menu. There's another group of people that are, that have been carrying on for about three years now that suit that sort of shit. But yeah, so I got this group on. Basically I was, I was, I was working as a flight attendant. Yeah. Traveling the world. That was my whole thing. I just wanted to see the world. I was seeing it for dead cheap. Like I was using these flight passes. I was using all my days off to go to other countries and just really go and explore and, and do these things I had dreamt about, which was amazing. Then my partner ended up getting sick for a little bit. And so we stopped traveling while he was recovering for well over a year. And it was the first time I was like, I had all this time off and I needed something to do to like, you know, occupy myself. I signed up for group on so that I could get discounts on like Zumba classes and all these different classes I was trying to take like yoga classes and blah, blah, blah. And then I got a group on for a comedy writing class and I was like, oh, there's something to do. This will be fun. And buddy, as soon as I like reopened that creativity that I had like nestled away from my childhood. Like I, it like unleashed something in me and like it completely changed. The comedy writing was for second city for sketch comedy writing. So that's where I started. And then after that, I just could not stop. Like I literally changed my whole life trajectory based on a group on. So did you, when you growing up, did you watch like comedy shows or like funny movies and stuff? Were you more into those? Yeah, I liked funny movies. I liked acting when I was very young. I was, I was an actor. Like when I was young. Actor or actress? Well, they say actor now for both. But it's... Oh, really? Oh, shit. Here I am trying to be old PC. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Well, no, I mean, it doesn't really matter to me. Like it's like when people say like, oh, you were air hostess. I'm like, yeah, sure. But like, they call it flight attendant. You know what I mean? But you were nominated for best actress, nominated for best actress at the 10th Canadian Screen Awards, right? So let's, let's, let's debunk this. I'm going to have a dig here. I want to see how you respond. Yeah, I am. Nominated best actress. Amazing. Yes. But at the 10th best... No, at the 10th Canadian Screen Awards. Yes. That's kind of like saying, I'm a vet nurse. What does that mean? A vet nurse. Exactly. You're not, you're not a, you're not a vet. Yes. But you're not a nurse. You're a vet nurse. Like, like, cool for vet nurses. Oh, like you're the nurse for a vet. Oh, yes. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? Like it ain't shit. I didn't say that. You said that. You said that. I've got a few vet nurses. Yo, bro. For all the vet nurses out there, you matter. I couldn't, I couldn't come out. Yeah, vet nurses, you matter. You know, they help with dogs. And, but yeah, Canadian... I know. That's what I always tell people. People are like, you're an Academy Award nominated actress. I'm like, give it a Canadian Academy Award. And I was just nominated. I didn't actually win. But, but, but I will say that the year before, Michelle Pfeiffer won. So it ain't shit. You know what I mean? It ain't not it. Like I was like, I'm in the same category as Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it in your LinkedIn profile? I don't have a LinkedIn. Honestly, here's the thing, yeah. I don't know how much further you researched this. That was my first movie. That was on Wikipedia. That was my first movie. That was my very first role. I scored a lead role in a film, which was a super independent film. Like if you, like some of the clothes I'm wearing in that movie are mine. Like I brought from home, yeah. Because they didn't even have money like for wardrobe. Yeah. And then this film. And you were the only actress. And I was the only actress. Actually, it was a huge cast. It was a huge monologue. It was a huge cast. It was just me doing it. It was just to stand up actually. They were like, acting. I'm like, you didn't laugh. They didn't laugh. That's what they're saying. No, no, it was so like for what it was, there was like no expectation of this. My, as a brand new actress, you know, in the scene, I was contacted through my website because they were actually like having a hard time finding somebody for this role. And they thought maybe a comedian might be the way to go. And so they contacted me through my website. I was in Australia at the time. And so when I auditioned for it, the thing is as I read the script and I was like, this is actually really fucking good. You know, and I didn't get excited about most of the scripts that were coming my way at this point because I was getting some shit. You know what I mean? I was brand new. And I was like, I don't care about any of this stuff. This one I actually cared about. So like, that's what I'm saying to you. Like when I just, just now before I left, I was filming an episode of Law and Order. I got a quick story for you about that one. You know the intro in the criminal justice system. Da, da, da, da, da. I got that, I eyed that voice and I started scripting some random shit to advertise my. Oh, hilarious, yo. That's too funny. I grew up watching that shit. Did you? I still never watched it. Are you the, like, what role do you play? Are you a victim? Are you a criminal? Are you both? I am playing the mother of a victim. Okay. Ah, yeah. All right. How do you get that part? You have a manager that- I have an agent, yeah. And I get sent auditions. You know, I... Did you go to acting school or anything like that? No. No, I didn't. So you don't have to go to acting school and you end up on Law and Order? Yes. Guys. Yeah. Guys, and this is, like, the overarching theme of this show. It's not just me talking to interesting people. It's how you can do something without following the traditional, you know. You need to be fucking gone to acting school. You need to know people. You need to suck this guy's dick. Oh, well, that, I... No, no. We know, honestly, that is what I'm all about. I tell people this all the time, man. Even, look, when I became a flight attendant, not for nothing, but there are people going to school to be flight attendants. They didn't go to school. I didn't take any of those classes. Are you kidding me right now? I'm not. For what? To teach me how to just customer service? You just got into it because they were down a flight attendant and you were like, yeah, I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, ah. Groupon. I got a groupon for this. I got a groupon for this. No, but like, there's always a way in, you know? For me, like I said, I wanted to work in travel. I literally just did research. I researched all the different, I wrote down a list of all the different work, travel jobs you could do. So like tour guide, flight attendant, travel agent, like cruise ship worker, all this stuff. Researched all of them, saw what had to be done, and then I actually talked to people. So you did the hard work. You've done, you did the hard work, the research, the reach out. People don't get past the first stage. And this is the point. This is the point. Kids ask me all the time, Sev, I wanna be a content creator like you. I'm like, great, show me what you've got so far. Oh, I haven't done anything yet. I'm like, what the fuck? Go film something. Give me something to give you feedback on. Actually do it. Actually prove to me that you actually want to do it. Totally. Right? Do the research yourself. And they ask me how. I'm like, Google it. But then I give them some answers because I've got teaching background. I went to uni for by the way. I didn't just become a teacher. I did kind of. But anyway, then you did the outreach. And I feel like younger generations, they don't want to communicate because they're all iPad babies. I know. They don't know how to communicate. And that's what, this goes back, ties back to what we were saying in the very beginning, yeah? Which I said to you, I said I feel like I'm rich from experiences with other people. Everything I've done. So because I went, I talked to people rather than actually just reading what was like the cat. I found out from talking to folks that as a flight attendant, I would have the most time off and flexibility in my schedule to be able to then actually take the flight passes and go and travel. That's perfect. Where if I was, for example, a tour guide, yes, they would send me to places and I would be, everything would be paid for. My trip would be paid for. My meals would be paid for. My flights would be paid for. Amazing. Sounds great. Except for I would be in Greece taking a group of 15 people to all of these places to go and see the monuments over and over again. And I would have this much time on my own to actually go and explore the way that I like to travel. So like, but only because I spoke with them and found out how much downtime do you have? How much does it actually pay? How much flexibility is in your schedule? All these questions that when I asked the people, that's where I made my decision. When I became a comedian, all I did was ask questions everywhere. And even now, like people are like, oh, how did you get into the festivals across the world? Cause I talked to the artists that do it. I talked to all of the comedians that do it. And I go, hey, what's the Edinburgh like? What was Melbourne like? How do you sell your tickets? How did you do that? You know what I mean? And people are always surprisingly willing to share information if you ask it nicely, you know? There's an unknown optimism about wanting to do something or wanting to try something and thinking that that's a thing for you. But then you get into it. If you haven't asked all the questions, you realize and become known to the pessimism. You're like, oh shit, I didn't realize all of this. That's a lot of hard work. Oh, I don't want to do that. I don't want to tour guide 15 people around Greece. I want to sit with my drink and, you know, do fuck all. I don't want to talk to anybody. And that's been my story for a while. I would get into something, crack it, and be like, yep, I figured it out. But then I'm like, oh, next level, no, not for me. And I've done that over and over and over again. And that's been my experience. But the beauty of that is that you tried it. I tried it, yeah. And so you actually have real expectation of what it is and you can make a decision versus just like living this fantasy of like, I would love to do this, but never actually. Man, so the thing is is that I also like, I've always said that, you know, every bit of life teaches you something. When I was young, I very early on in life saw how life can just get taken away like this. You know, life is super short. I saw loved ones pass at a young age. And for me, that was like a real thing where I was like, oh, like it doesn't make sense to me, all this like people, you know, oh, I'll wait till I retire to travel. What are you talking about? What if you never make it? You know what I mean? Or I'll wait until this, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, dude, like do everything that you want right now. Live life like, like, I don't know. Just as if like, you know, you got limit on your back. You know what I mean? I think it's the fear of being homeless if you do it all now and you run out of money. Or being able to not make ends meet or make pay the bills and stuff. And that's like a, it's a real thing. And I get it. It's a real thing. I get it. People want security, people want comfort. Or we've been taught that that's what's important. See, the thing is, is that like, I could get into this how you said, but like. Oh, society, man. Society. Society has taught us what to value in life, but like really actually what is valuable? The things that we have. The one chance you get at trying shit. Like we literally, oops, sorry. We have like, I don't know. I really feel like we have to reassess what it is that we think is important in life and really make decisions based on what we instinctively value rather than what has been taught to us as a value. Because growing up, you know, you're taught that like, you're supposed to have like a house with things in it. And like, you know, you're supposed to have like job security and you're supposed to have like a retirement plan and all this stuff. Now, if you look at everything that's happening in the world, yeah. And like, we don't have to get too heavy into politics or anything like that. But you look at like so much of what's happening in the world in terms of, you know, we're seeing, you know, the abuse, the absolute abuse of lives all over the world in order to make the things that we consume, right? And this consumer society that's been taught to us, you know, we were never really given the chance to follow through on the mental process of at what cost. You know, this is what I value at what cost. And if we actually look at that like, oh, you know what? At the cost of other human lives? No, this is not a value to me, right? So I really think that the idea of like reevaluating, reassessing what's important to us will be a key to unlocking like a better humanity in general, like a better future for ourselves to be able to create a more ethical and a more like a kinder world, but also one that is more fulfilling to self because right now we are all taught that we're supposed to do certain things, take certain steps, that security is valuable, that money is valuable, that like, you know what I mean, all of that stuff, but it is not happiness, fulfillment. You know, those are the things that are way more valuable. How many, in my show, where you from from show, the last one that I did, one of the things that I say to the audience, which doesn't sound like comedy, but I make it funny, I promise, but I tell them, I say, when you go home today, Google the five biggest regrets of people on their deathbed, great guide to life. Cause that's when you really recognize what you value in life, is when you run out of it. Right? And so like living your life by that standard means that you'll have fewer regrets at the end than maybe it's time to reevaluate, recalibrate your trajectory by looking at life from that perspective. I love it. Go off, go off, absolutely, go off. I want a mic drop, but it's attached, so. We've got a mic here. So with your career now, you've got all these different revenue streams and opportunities, and you've built them up over the years. Do you worry about not getting the next gig or not getting the next acting job and things like that? Yes. How do you navigate through that? Honestly, I mean, it is really hard. That's probably the hardest part of this lifestyle is just having faith that it's gonna work out. You know, the way that people have faith in religion, I guess. I don't know, you know, like, because there's nothing tangible in front of me saying that this will work, right? And there is definitely like this constant, like in the back of my brain, where I'm like just kind of going over my bank balance almost all the time. I feel that. Right? Because yes, like, okay, I just landed law and order. Great, that's gonna pay me like this much money. That's great, but that money might have to last me for the next three months, because right now I just had a tour got canceled. And so that money that was gonna come in is not coming in anymore. And so now the only thing that I have that's like real money coming in is for this next little while is this festival that I'm doing, but that's not gonna pay me until March. So as soon as that law and order money comes in, that's what's gonna keep me afloat until this festival pays me out. And then that's when it was gonna keep me afloat. But I'm still trying to put money aside so that I can build on other projects that I wanna invest in. For example, my own podcast, which is gonna cost a little bit of money to start off with, which you know what I mean? So like you're constantly like, for me though, I think that the key thing is, is that I keep reinvesting in myself. That is a big, there's a big key. I'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah. Yeah. That is like one of the most important things. And like, you wouldn't have it any other way, would you? Would you go back to flight attending? No, but I do miss it sometimes. I agree, I agree. I do miss it sometimes, you know? I miss teaching, I miss teaching. Yeah. I get to teach through this meeting. I get to teach more than the 32 kids in the classroom. I have kids who are asking me, every five seconds in TikTok, Sev, can you go to this shopping center? I'm here today. Sounds so weird. It sounds like a bit awkward. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, when I do the, when I gave away 50 ice creams at the ice cream shop on Friday. And I had it all arranged, and I've got to work in with children's check. Where is my invitation for this? It's on Instagram, you should have seen it. I love ice cream shop. But I always end with invite your mum or share this with your mum. So that it's always like, hey, I'm getting the kids involved, but share this with your mum so she's involved. And for the ones that don't have mums, because I don't know, your dad or whoever, it's like, I'm saying to the kids, I want to become the guy or the influencer, quote unquote, that actually cares, that actually is going the distance and doing the right thing. And not pissing it up the wall, not dating a Kardashian or anything like that, just like going all the way through and going, what's wrong with him? He's going to fuck it up. He's going to do some dodgy. He's a scam artist. He's a kitty. I don't take those, the only jokes I don't take are the kitty touching ones. Those jokes are not on, because that's something that is just never funny. The pedo jokes, I say pedo because Ricky Gervais talks about it all the time, but when it's on you and your fan base as kids, that's when it gets a little bit kind of off key. Yeah, yeah, totally. And it's just like, yeah. I say that now and that's probably going to unhinge a whole bunch more. And there's no way to kind of go with it because it's just weird. It's just shut it down. You know, like what makes this person so special? What makes this person special enough to be able to rise above the masses and achieve something of recognition? And honestly, like I really in my heart believe and I know it sounds so cheesy, but I really believe we all have that special in us. It's just a matter of are we willing to dig for it, risk ourselves, like not necessarily being successful the first, second, third time around, and sacrifice, right? What are you willing to give up? That's a big one. Like going back to the flight attendant thing, there's a bunch of people that became flight attendants over the years that I was there. Yeah, put that right there. Within a couple months, six months, quit because they were like, oh, this is not the lifestyle that I want. And I get that and I super get that, right? But they wanted to come in for all the good reasons, but they weren't willing to do the shit, which was deal with angry passengers from time to time or have people hand you a schedule where every other month I'm able to go to another country. So like it's like, what are you willing to sacrifice? What am I willing to sacrifice for this? I'll tell you, I went from living from a one bedroom plus den apartment comfortably in my own space, which I loved. I moved from there to living with flatmates again. I went backwards because I knew that I had to sacrifice those things so I wouldn't be uncomfortable financially starting out as an artist. People don't want to sacrifice the comfort for their dreams. Exactly, and then that means that that dream's not strong enough and that's okay. But then don't hold down the fulfillment of your life based on a dream that's not really your dream because there's that other side of things where people are like, oh, I wish I could have done this. I wish I could have done that. And it's like, no, no, you can. But by saying I wish, you're actually undermining the value of everything you do have. You should be doing exactly what you wish. So if what you wish is to work this job at this store that gives you a salary, ain't nothing wrong with that. Because maybe that fulfills your wish to be able to have weekends off to go surfing, which is really what your wish is, then go for it. But if you're doing neither of the things, none of the things that you wish for, then that's where your life is at a place where you gotta really reassess. Self-awareness and self-esteem together are a powerful thing. And I wish people can somehow grasp that better. Yeah. They don't have self-awareness. Sometimes it's very late in their lives. And I wish for my followers, the younger ones especially, just my brain was on and I'm like, fuck, I need to go to sleep again. And I think I was awake for about an hour and a half just laying there, just thinking about shit. And I'm like, man, if I just had a cushiony nine to five job, I'd just be like, not my problem, I'm gonna wake up at eight or seven. Or we're calling sick. Calling sick or clock in, clock out, and then not give a shit. But now I'm 24 seven and I love it because I'm in control completely. I love that control. Totally. Other people want someone else to control it and that's their comfort. But for me, no thank you. And other people come to me and go, I said, I wanna be a creator. Okay, great. Can you do this, this, this, this and this? And they're like, oh, what? Yeah, I have marketing teams that hire me to train them to do the, to teach them how to do the socials properly because they're all outsourcing them to agencies who aren't creative either. And they wanna save money, they hire me and I show them all the steps and I can see all their internal marketing like girls. A lot of them are female, mid 20s, white female marketing and they got the degree because it was the easiest one to get from their low entrance score. It's fucking true. They're not creative either. But their bosses are saying, you need to get more on TikTok, you need to get more on Instagram, Reels. I come in and show them and they're like, what? And I'm just like, what the fuck are you doing here? It's marketing. You need to showcase the brand. And then I am teaching them from the beginning. I'm like, you're in this. You've got three years of a degree, but I can see in their eyes, they don't wanna be there anymore, but they're stuck with the salary. That self-awareness is churning and I can see it and I'm like, be real with yourself, please. So I was actually gonna circle back to that because that's where I wanted to ask you what do you as self-awareness? And I think that's what, yeah, exactly. Be honest with yourself. Being honest with yourself, paying attention to yourself. I did a TEDx talk about this. Oh, did you? I said, pay attention to yourself. I paid attention to myself in my 20s when I no longer wanted to be a footy player. I got injured, picked up a camera, loved it. That's why Sev's pics is a thing. Oh, cool. And then I started doing that and I was like, this is amazing. I can do whatever I want. I can take a photo and edit it however I want, post it. I can get no likes, I can give a fuck. I'm gonna have 150 of these and no one's gonna give a fuck, but I'm gonna go back and go, that was shit, but look at me now. And now look at me now, right? And then that self-awareness drew me into, obviously I was doing teaching then. And I was like, sweet, I got a salary. I've got, I don't have to worry about anything for the next job, government job as well. It's not only recession proof, it's pandemic proof. But then I was like, what if I could make money from my passion? Which was photography. And I was like, do I wanna teach photography two things that I'm good at? No, I don't wanna teach photography. I like business, because I used to be a personal trainer before all of this. Keep in account how many things that I've done. And I loved teaching someone to be fitter, to be stronger, to be more mobile, to eat good shit, not bad shit. I was like, okay, teaching is definitely part of my life, but not in the four walls of a classroom, not to an outdated curriculum, school systems part. We won't get into that. But I was like, all right, teaching, something. I'm good at business. And then I did a wedding photography, successful wedding photography business. Still do it a little bit. And I was like, okay, business is a thing. Can I teach business? I don't think I have enough experience yet, but I like it. It's problem solving pretty much. It's very binary almost. And then marketing, I was like, I'm very good at marketing myself, but can I teach someone else? I can, but only if they're invested in that space as much as I'm invested in my personal brand. I tell people from the start, if you wanna build a following like me, if you wanna build a brand like I've built my own personal brand, you have to be as invested in your own personal brand or whoever you're working with or for as much as I'm invested in my own. And most of them won't be. I remember I had a consult with a chick in America. She was a wedding photographer of 10 years, more experience than I was. And she said, Sev, I want your help and how I can build my brand further and get more clients. And we had a chat for an hour. And at the end, actually a week later, I followed up saying, hey, are you still keen on me helping you? She goes, Sev, appreciate your time, but what you've made me realize is I don't wanna invest my money on your education, I'm not saying that it's bad, but I don't wanna invest to improve myself. I've realized that wedding photography is no longer for me, I wanna move on. And that was one of the best feelings I've had in that space. Because she actually evaluated. Yeah, and I was like, oh my God, that was cool. And then she pivoted into something else. And I wasn't skillful or quick enough to ask her, okay, now you're doing that. Do you want me to teach you how to do the content for that? I was just stoked that I was able to help someone move out of something they were no longer in love with. And that's kind of like the art of pivoting. And most people can't pivot because they're stuck in a financial situation or they don't wanna sacrifice and move back to the flatmate's side. That's the thing, right? And I'm like, you got it. You get golden handcuffs. At what cost are you not sacrificing, right? One of those five regrets, I guarantee it. Yes. There's one of those five regrets when you're older. Exactly, and it's honestly, I think it's so important that we recognize folks that are in their 30s, yeah? Will oftentimes feel like they are too far into their adulthood to be able to pivot. That's oftentimes, it's the people that you'll meet because in your 20s, you're just trying to figure things out at the beginning and then you're supposed to have it figured out by the end so that you can coast into your 30s with an idea of what you're doing and who you are. However, we as human beings have evolved so much. We live longer in our lives. We have evolved in the sense of like, everything happens later. We're not having kids as young. We're not getting married as young. All this stuff is happening. Why is it that people feel that once they've decided what their career is, that this is what they have to stick to forever? You're supposed to evolve. Everything is evolving. In seven years from now, every cell in my body will be different. Correct. A different human from the human that was seven years ago. But you lose Brian's house. Yeah, that too. But if you're not evolving, if you're not growing, if you're not changing, that's where the issue is. And I think that people will often feel this lack of fulfillment or almost like a stir-crazy feeling like later in life. When we talk about like midlife crisis and all this stuff because in their 30s, when they could have made that change, they're deciding not to, and then they're suffering through it because they didn't want to sacrifice. And so the sacrifice becomes their lives instead. The sacrifice becomes the reality of their day-to-day doing something that they don't want to do because they didn't walk away from it. I say you're 35 years old. You graduated university at the age of 24 because you took a gap year, okay? And then now you've started building your career and you're 35 years old and you've got into like a managerial position in whatever you were doing because for the last 10 years you've been working really well in your field. And now you feel like you should stay in that position because you've been doing this for the last 10 years plus a five-year education. That's great, absolutely. But if you're gonna retire at 65, that means you have another 30 years to go, 30 years. And every single day that you delay making that change will help you justify why you don't make the change because then you're adding numbers on this side of the fence. And then you're 40 now and now you've spent 15 years and now you've got 25 years left. And then every time you push back that decision if you know that you're in a position where you're not feeling fulfilled in what you're doing you have not wasted your time. I did not waste my time being a flight attendant. I learned a bunch of skills that I ended up putting into being a comedian including I wrote an entire show about the people that I've met and the experiences that I've had. You are never wasting your time making a change and all the things that you carry from your past. I am so sure we'll still somehow fit into the puzzle of your future. It just doesn't have to be everything, right? We talked about self-awareness. We talked about pivoting to something once you evolve. There's a middle thing that's missing and that's financial fitness. Being financially fit unlocks the easier way to pivot or being able to let go and sacrifice. So you either become financially fit and learn how to invest properly and not waste your money or whatever you have, you're happy to let go to make the pivot. That's it. Yeah, I mean, it's really like I think that it's, like, you know when you get on stage you were saying like you're not afraid of bombing. Like people sometimes ask me about it as a comedian. Like, are you afraid to bomb? And I'm like, tomorrow's another day I'll get back on my feet and I will be fine, you know? And I will start, I will start from there. And it's the same thing as like the being willing to kind of go backwards or sacrifice with your finances. Like maybe it's because I grew up with very little that I'm not afraid to lose what I have because I know I can survive on whatever and maybe some folks that, but so you have to ask yourself, what is your bare minimum for you to feel comfortable in your lifestyle? You know what, I mean, I would rather feel more fulfilled in my career, do the things that I'm passionate about, knowing that, you know, like eventually down the road I will hopefully have the means to be able to support the lifestyle that I want. But I would rather do that and sacrifice a little bit of the lifestyle stuff right now than stick to something that is not gonna allow me to be creative, that's not gonna allow me to be able to feel fulfilled and chase my passions and all this stuff but have a one bedroom plus 10 where I picked out the color of the paint. You know what I mean? Like who cares? All right, it's time for the red mic. Oh, what's that? So you hold that. You keep it close to you because I don't have the audio there, but just make sure you can see it there. That's perfect. All right, cool. So I'm just gonna angle this a little bit. Okay. And then you just keep for angling at me. You don't have to be closer to this, you just talk to the mic. All right, so. Is this real? This is just a stick. Yeah, it can be real. It can be whatever you want it to be. All right, Poutine 2 AM story, go. So I was on an overnight. Yeah, flight. In Halifax, yeah. With a bunch of flight attendants and pilots, we went out partying because we had a really long layover. The layover was like 32 hours in Halifax or something. So we went out partying. Wasn't 2 AM, it was 4 AM. We're standing in line up at this, like the outside windows where they just hand you stuff, one of those kinds of places, okay? This is in Halifax on the east coast of Canada. And so we're standing in line for Poutine and then as we're in line up, I feel so many pinch my butt and I turn around and there's this dude just fucking looking at me in the face like what's my problem? And I'm like, are you fucking kidding? I'm like, bro, what the fuck, right? And he goes, and I'm like, what the fuck? And I don't know what it was. Like I had a had a bit to drink, you know what I mean? I don't know if it was like, because I was embarrassed in front of my colleagues or what it was. I've never done this before. I literally, because he just didn't respond to me. I lifted my hand and I slapped him. Nice. And I felt like, huh? Will Smith style? Not Will Smith style. Like remember Home Alone? Yeah. We're telling stories. Yeah, Home Alone. You hear the fire? Yeah. You know how she like smacks him in the face like that? I think that's probably why it happened because I felt that kind of like deja vu moment. So what did he pinch your bum for? So check this. So as soon as I slap him, one of the flight attendants, he's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. That was me. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. That was me. I was playing a trick on you. I had no idea. This is how you'd react. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me right now? Did you buy him some poutine? Seth, we did, but wait for it. OK. So I turned to the guy that I slapped. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I had no idea that they were. I thought you pinched my ass. Like I just, and then he again goes, he was deaf. The reason he didn't respond to me when I was yelling at him is because he couldn't hear what I was asking. And he was going, uh, and I thought he was like making gang six symbols at me and shit. He was trying to speak to me and sign. I didn't see any of that. I fucking slapped him. He slapped the deaf guy. I did. I did. In a poutine line at 4 AM in Halifax, bro. Anyways, we bought him and all his buddies poutine. They thought it was hilarious. They had a good laugh. But then the next day, now we're working. And this fucking flight attendant working with him. And we're doing the, I'm like, can I get you some coffee? He's like, better hurry up and answer her before she slaps you. And I'm like, fuck it. Like the entire, they just kept rousing the entire time. There's like reputation of like, Aliyah's got a quick hand, you know, just fucking. I love that. I love that. That is, that is a pretty good 4 AM worthwhile extended answer. All right. Now for the final part, we're going to do quick fire. So, so just give me an answer. No, no, uh, Ramblik, uh, time you almost literally pissed yourself. I've come close a couple of times in my sleep. I'm not going to lie. I'm super lazy. I get lazy. I don't want to get out of bed and then like, just go. And then I like almost start dreaming about peeing. And then I'm like, oh no. And then I'll like race out. Okay. That's the moment. That's gross. Yeah. Um, cliche, cliche female comic topics that need to be archived. So like, they're retired. The, the, let's stop. Don't make fun of vaginas. I'm not making fun of vaginas. That I'm saying that needs to be archived. I know, I know. Okay. Favorite hockey team, your Canadian ice hockey, obviously go. Uh, I don't even know if I know the name of a hockey team. I'm such a bad Canadian. The Toronto Maple Leaf. There we go. There we go. Cool. The Ottawa Raptors. Close enough. Close enough. Favorite US city. Uh, I really love New York. Yeah, I love New York. Chicago too. Oh, yes. You know what I mean. Those are my two. And San Fran too. I haven't been to San Fran yet, believe it or not. I have not been. I like it. Yeah, I'm sure I like it. But when you go out, out, outskirts, it's nice. Yeah, yeah. Favorite thing about Perth? Uh, it feels kind of small town-y. Okay. Yeah, people are really nice, right? Like, I just, I like it. I like it, yeah. Favorite movie of all time. I hate this game. I don't like it. It's not a game. It's serious. It's the red mic. I don't like picking favorites of anything. It's too much commitment. What if I change my mind? Then that's all right. You're evolving. Favorite comedian of all time? Surely it's Jim Carrey, because you're Canadian. No, I really like Dave Chappelle. Yeah, he's up there too, you know? Yeah. Have you ever watched his shows back in the day? You know, I didn't really. I didn't have a TV for a lot of that stuff. So I didn't, I didn't watch a lot of stuff growing up. Oh man, watch some of the classics though. I know. I watch it now though. In some of it, I'm like, oh Dave. Clayton, Clayton Bigsby? Clayton Bigsby? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I have a sketch that I wrote that's kind of similar to that, actually. I, that, that, that's my favorite sketch of all time. It's genius. Shitest one-star review experience. Of me? No, no, no, like, like, like what's made you go, I need to fucking put a one-star review on Google or this is that bad. I don't like, you know, no one ever bothers to do one-star reviews and that's said that bad. You need to make it known. Have you had that one? Surely. I mean, honestly, like, I like to let go of bad experiences very quickly. Fair enough. But I did once go to a restaurant in Peru, where it was supposed to be like my fancy birthday dinner and it was like a five-star, like, five-thousand reviews saying how amazing this place was. So we went there for dinner and the food was like, like the potatoes were not cooked all the way through. Everything was over-salted. The, the meat was cold. Like, it was just like all the stuff was wrong. Okay, good. That was quite disappointing. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. And finally, what is the one? Oh, and this podcast. Good, good, good. Thought back a lot. Okay, I'm starting acting in comedy. What's your pro tip? Your one pro tip. Risk it all, bro. Risk it all. Just be willing to risk it all. Honestly, be willing to risk it all. Be willing to look like a fool. Be willing to give up your lifestyle. Be willing to, to take chances on yourself. Be willing to risk it all. Risk it all, you know what I mean? Because there's so many super-talented people out there that are gonna be willing to risk it all. And that's really, I think that what you, you know, we talk about investing in yourself, that is the biggest investment. Very true. Risk it. Very true. Invest in yourself. Take those chances, invest in yourself. Believe in yourself. The biggest risk in life is on yourself. And people don't wanna do it, but you have all of the control. And the one thing that's certain is, no matter what you do, no matter what you risk throughout your life, you're not gonna get out alive. Yes. So, man, as well, give it a try. Give it a crack. Thank you for joining me. Thank you, thank you. How do we go and see your shows? So, I'm gonna be, I don't know when this clip is gonna come out, but I'm gonna be... I don't know, probably next year. Oh, well then, you know what? You won't be able to afford me by then, motherfucker. No, I'm gonna be at the Fringe Festival for Fringe. I've got two shows I'm doing. So, my solo show, which is a new one, which I'm really excited about, is called Aliyah Kanani Is a Work in Progress. And I'm talking about just trying to find balance in life, which is something I've always really struggled with. You know, I went to an ashram in India to try and learn how to take care of myself after my body started falling apart in the middle of a festival at Edinburgh where I was in the hospital. It was like a whole thing because I just don't know how to take care of myself properly sometimes. And so, I talk about how I'm trying to balance yoga and yoga and wine. Yeah. Okay. And then the other show. And then my other show, it's called All That She Wants. And I'm co-hosting that one with Jill Cordner who's been there. Oh, she's been on the show. Yeah, yeah, I love Jill. Shout out to Jill. Yeah, yeah. Actually, so I co-hosted that show in Toronto with Amanda Seyfried, which was insane. I was working with her on a film. I told her I was doing this show. She said she wanted to be part of it. And then one thing led to another. She co-hosted it with me and we had so much fun that we made this into this new format. We're co-hosting an all-female line of show and it's like all like jokes, sexy secrets, and life hacks. It's gonna be like a party, so yeah. Actually, actually, I'm gonna get Jill on the phone now. Oh my God, stop. I'm supposed to meet her just now. This is a, this is a, like, a skit. Oh, okay. So I'm just gonna get her on the phone. Oh, hey Jill. Hey Jill, we got Aliya on the phone. You what? You're constipated. All right, we'll talk to Aliya about it. Hey, you know, I know, I'm sorry I brought up your name. I know that you're really mad at him from the last interview you guys did here. This is super embarrassing. I'm so sorry. Yeah, he's a bit of a dick. No, you're right. No, he kept trying to talk about how women aren't fun. You know, just classic male ego shit. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, anyways, I'll catch up with you later. Ask her about her constipation. Oh, how's the constipation going? Oh yeah, I can give you a hand with that. Yeah, no, I got a plunger in the back of my car. I'll be over really soon. Yeah, okay, got you. Yo, listen, what are lady friends for, am I right? I'll get the big screener, huh? Very good, very good. All right, well, we got the red mic, the red phone, the red bottle. Yo, listen, I wanted to say something that I thought about as I was answering those questions but I was the whole rapid fire thing just on a note of what you were saying real quick. I read something recently when you're making a vision board, which I've still never made, but it was the things that you are doing, the things that you wanna be doing, and the most important thing, which is apparently what people always forget and leave out is who you want to be. And I think that kind of really ties in really well with your self-awareness, because it's not just I don't think about evaluating who you are, how you are, how you affect others, but who is it, what is the version of that person you want to be and what is gonna enable you to get there? Love that. I just thought I- I love that. Throw that in for you. Thanks for everybody for listening to the show. If you have any questions, leave your comments in the YouTube thing, leave your reviews in the Spotify or the iTunes thing. You know my outros are pretty shit still, but if you leave a five star review, that'd be great. If you don't, then fuck you. And everything you need to know about this woman is in the description. Follow her on Instagram and go see her friend's show and when she comes back, if she comes back. I'll be back. Yeah. All right. And as always, good things. See you later.