 Hey everybody, welcome back to the Linuxcast. I'm your host Matt and I'm Tyler We did that right Right great. All right, cool. So this is the Linuxcast. We talk about Linuxy things most of the time Other times we just bullshit for about an hour and that's what we're planning on doing today We have topics. We're gonna go through them one by one as we you know do But I'm sure we will meander as we also do so Tyler other than The normal things what have you been doing this week? Do we have an intervention is what I'm hearing? Yes So my zero ad addiction has gotten To the point now where it is negatively impacting the rest of my life. I am forgetting about obligations that I have It it's taking up a massive chunk of my time That being said I absolutely love it and probably won't stop I just need to learn how to you know become a Functional addict, you know Become an adult. It's okay Yeah It's okay You see that set an alarm or so you did you have modern technology? You're not in the wagon yet Tyler. I Know I know well Really in all honesty, even though I knew it was Thursday. I really didn't think of it as Thursday I was like, I got the day off. I can I can spend the whole day playing zero ad I even sent you a message like hey, man. You want to play zero ad? It never once occurred to me I mean you got the podcast you sort of like do that. Yeah, I messaged you back saying hey Yeah, I just got home. I need to get food before we do the pod You never answered me back cuz you went and automatically and started started messing around with your women Oh So that that I probably better not say that Okay, I'm gonna say So that's the only so the only way you can mess around with women is in the video All right That was that was very mean I'm still a little salty. I was stood up for like a half an hour That's okay. All right, you know So you've been playing just already I played the tutorial of that and I It was fun But overly complicated for me But I think if I played a little bit more which I still haven't had a chance to do by the way this week has just been So fucking busy We got a new dog and that's been taking up a lot of time plus work has just been crazy. So Yeah, so for me, I've been messing around with emacs and every time I show emacs on in a video someone tells you you're doing it wrong Last week I was talking about how I preferred to use emacs in the terminal and apparently that's the wrong way to use emacs because You don't get all the features if you use it in the terminal Which in my case, I then ask why is there even a terminal version if it's a strip down You know vanilla version of emacs why bother having in the terminal You're just giving me false hope at that point exactly, so I I've been messing around with it slowly, but Every time it doesn't work the way I expect it to work I just immediately go do the thing that I need to do in Vim because I know the key bindings there so Like that that rising video I did yesterday people see I started up in emacs and started working on it And it didn't paste the way I expected it to paste like you The thing about the doom emacs is that the the key bindings are similar to them But they're not exactly the same as them because like when you're in Vim to paste outside of from a clipboard outside of them You have to do control shift V like you do in a normal terminal, right? But in emacs control shift V does something completely different. It's just P and I keep forgetting that Um so I went through and kept trying to figure out how why the colors weren't changing and it just It's because I wasn't pasting quickly and I I got Pissed off and threw a fit and just went to them and I did the rest of the video in vim So I got a couple messages and comments about that like you were doing it wrong Well, yeah, I know I was doing wrong, but the way it was being done is stupid I'm Like I understand technically P is a better way of pasting than control shift V But I've been using control shift V to paste in a terminal for Ever ever, right? That's just the way you do it So, yeah, I mean so that has been an experience my I have not been able to get into Org mode or org Rome yet. Those are the two things. I'm gonna check out before I stop this stupid experiment Because I'm hoping that those two grab my attention and like oh these are really good This is why you use emacs because so far I haven't found a good reason to use emacs. Yeah, so just vim's better Yeah So I've also been I've been scripting up a storm I'm this close to being able to finish the the rice changer script that I've been doing oh man, so I Ran into a problem. I don't know if I talked about this last week or not, but what I wanted to do and I had it working was That I ran I had a an array that listed out all the Choices for rice's and then it ran that through Rofi And then you took the choice and then you know applied the changes the problem is with DWM You have to build it so every time you change make a change to one of the config files You have to build it and you can't do that from Rofi because you need pseudo privileges So I can't you if you could build DWM or ST or any of those things Without using pseudo privileges that would be the way I'd be doing it because it'd be really cool Just hit a key binding Rofi comes up or Dean menu comes up select the race you want and it changes That was my ideal, but it's just not gonna work that way because that's stupid pseudo privileges So instead of what I'm gonna do is it's gonna be something you're gonna have to run from a terminal With options so you'd you'd run the terminal name and then you'd put the option of the rice that you want after it and then It will then change could Could you not do it? I mean there should be a way of You know doing it from demon you and having it to where when you need the pseudo privileges It just loads up a policy kit like I thought that that I don't but I don't anything about how to use a policy kit like I don't know how to get how to spawn that Service right there with you. Yeah, I have no idea Because that's what I thought too was they could be really cool if it would just you know you select the rice and then policy The pulpit you know thing comes up and you type in your password But I don't know how to do that I mean maybe I can do some research and figure out how to do that be really cool because I have this That that script is written like it's done. It's just it won't work because you need the pseudo privileges So Anyways, that that's basically what I've been doing I've also been slowly learning some more about butterfest because I want to do a video on it because I Think it's really cool And I'm gonna argue that it should really be the default on Linux now because it's just it's so good like every time Like I haven't been forced to use it yet But every time every little feature that I discover about it just makes me think like this is the way Linux should work like EXT-4 has been good for many many many many many years But it's time to move on to the next thing butterfest is the future. I think And it's snapshots are amazing. Yeah, they're really good And I don't know why Ubuntu has chosen ZFS as an alternative. It's like why do you want to be different? Just choose butterfest. It's better All right, anyway, so that is That section there we can move on to the contact information. 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Anyways, you can also subscribe to Tyler's channel on YouTube and Odyssey Those links will be in the video description and in the show notes If you need to do if you haven't already seriously, he's like 50 away from a thousand like 50 away from a thousand and We're gonna get him there like By the end of the year Tyler's gonna be at a thousand or we're gonna die trying go subscribe to Tyler's channel Thank you guys he's zany online And you can subscribe to our channel on the YouTube by going to youtube.com slash Linux cast That wasn't bad. Also I'm just looking at that light like it's gonna. It's definitely gonna fall. All right anyways I'm just waiting for the crash like it's gonna happen. It's like it's now. It's literally dangling That so I bought this Double-sided tape. I don't know if you can see this or not and it is sticky like it will stick to your fingers from the side But apparently it's not sticky enough to hold that up. So that was a waste of like eight bucks All right, anyway, so Whatever it's okay every week Tyler and I find news or news like things in the case of sometimes and We talk about those things usually this is the Part of the show where we diverge from what we should be talking about into other things. So Tyler What is your news link of the week? Mine is the it's sort of a tutorial guide, but it's about the new how to essentially get a New Linux kernel installed on your Ubuntu system, which I've Found out that new guides and stuff like this that come out are apparently very popular and like extremely helpful inside of the like Ubuntu community. I Did not know how many I It surprises me. I've recently found out that a lot of people who use Ubuntu update the kernel like just Either they do it themselves like TFL does that he updates the kernel himself a few other people like they all manually update the kernel themselves or You know follow a guide like this. So You know if you Are an Ubuntu user Apparently it's very popular running Ubuntu with a more up-to-date kernel, which obviously makes sense You're gonna get much better stuff like you know better driver support Hardware support all that but I I don't know If it again, you do say this is where we go off on tangents my question you would be would if you're gonna install it Ubuntu, would you actually update the kernel? I Never have In the but you remember I Think the longest I've ever run Ubuntu is probably for like two weeks So I don't think I've ever stuck around on a boot to install long enough to have to actually it's you know update the kernel Now I have done have to do it on arch, but that's just you know, I mean that's normal I mean you get three updates a week Yeah for art so Would I if I were on a boot to probably not because The way I look at Ubuntu is that you use that because it doesn't get kernel updates like if yeah You know, I mean that that's the way I look at it I was like you wanted that thing to be as stable as possible and using the newest kernel is just going to Cause your problems or you know like yeah, I mean where it's at least less stable than running an older one That just works, you know, right? Yeah, you don't get as many features But that's sort of the whole idea is that it's rock solid stable, right? I It's very weird to me, but yes, apparently this is very popular. So look, I don't think we Terminal for life as an example of how that would work for other people because no no But I have talked to a lot of others and apparently there is quite a few graphical user inter like your GUIs for updating your kernel in Ubuntu Don't it does not make any sense to me, but They're all Apparently that's something people want to do but like I said that then I would question why you want to use Ubuntu in the first place Exactly Because like I said that I mean the reason why you use Ubuntu is because it's it's stable It's not going to get I mean, you know, it's just really weird But then again, maybe you prefer apt. I mean, maybe that's the reason why you prefer apt as the package manager or Maybe you really really like snaps and you like first-party support for snaps. I mean All right There goes the light I was about to say did the light cut off? I Don't know what I'm gonna do Awesome awesome. Well, you knew it was gonna happen eventually There it goes. Anyways, I don't remember everyone remember what I was saying, so I'm surprised I didn't In my haste to get to the light unplug the fucking microphone Just been Gravy on top of everything else the way it has so Yeah, so I'm talking about snaps. Yeah, so oh, yeah, that's why I wanted if there's somebody out there who really really like snaps I want to meet you and interview Talk to Dylan talk to Dylan. We can't talk to Dylan Uses nano, okay as a snap He and I would not get along for very long Well, if you're asking for somebody who loves snaps he loves snaps enough to run nano them He was trying to convince me that that Having your a knit system as a snap would be a great thing. I don't think that it's even possible Well, it's stupid. Why would you contain it? Why would you try to sandbox your a knit system? It needs to start services it? Wait, how would that even work because Like like by Definition your a knit system has to breach that container wall like all the time. So exactly I would I don't like I'm not the most technical person in the world, but I don't think that that would be possible At least not Okay, he also used you know, I mean, I mean I've said all right anyways So my news link link new link in a week Well, I mean Anyways, that is that brave has switched from Google to its default search engine by default and I don't I Was listening to a couple other Linux podcasts and people are like this is shocking news like How is this shocking news? Of course, they were going to switch. That's the reason why they did brave browser in the first place Or the brave search in the first place. I mean so that they could use it and get away from Google I mean, that's of course they were gonna do this. I mean how stupid can you get of course they were So I'm surprised it wasn't default out of the gate. Well, I mean, I think they wanted to get it out of beta first but It just doesn't surprise me at all and the thing is you used to use brave search as your default I know you did for a while. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I I did for a bit while it's still using your Keep browser config because I was just, you know, too lazy to change it But then eventually I just went back to Google because like it's that's the reason why I keep going from I Keep going from Duck to go like every once in a while I got feel guilty about not using an open source, you know search engine or you know privacy respecting search engine at least So I'll go switch to duck to go and I'll get pissed off at it Oh after like a couple weeks because it just it keeps forcing me to use the bang system to get to Google anyway So I just fucked this I'm just gonna use Google so So yeah, I just I I Just too good at search engine like other things I can understand, you know, you don't want to use it But for me the search engine their results are always good, you know Hardly ever do you go to Google search or something and then not find what you need and you can't say that about Duck to go or brave Although I don't think I gave brave enough credit because they pull a lot of stuff from Google as well Brave is far far better than duck to go But I will say here on Firefox. I'm using duck to go Just in in cute browser brave is my default. Yeah, duck to go does use being Which explains a lot Microsoft can't make anything good No, they can't Well, I take that back they can make things good But when when they're only using the work of others like they can make a good browser when they just put a skin over Chromium, that's it or I mean get hub is still good, but they're working on it making it worse I mean, they they they just bought it. That's it Yeah, all right. Anyway, so that was my news link of the week. So moving on to the main topic at four o'clock in the afternoon Looking at the time like, man, why are we running so late? That's because somebody had played your ID What I was going to do is pop into your Because you had your chat. You're like you're in a VC there. I was gonna pop in say, hey, yo, hi You should have why would it want to be rude? I Was the one being rude. I was I was bailing on you Next time I'll do that. I was like, hey asshole Well, there won't be a next time, but it's a whole other topic Tell that the next time you're playing with your women Anyways, not good. I was gonna move on to the main topic before we Just keep doing this for the next half an hour. So Tyler most underrated Linux distribution. Which one? Do you think doesn't get enough love? Now this is just completely because I'm using it. This is definitely biased and impartial and non impartial Katie Neon Haven't I've neglected it for a long time not really not really checked out or anything Haven't really thought much of it because I mean when you look into it It's not something that sounds Super appealing It doesn't sound very special. It's just Katie it's the latest from Katie on top of an stable Ubuntu base That's it However with that being said it is the best Experient it it it has made me love KDE more than I've ever liked it before Not and also it is a smooth Experience man, I have it on my desktop and my laptop and if anyone's kept up with like my channel for quite a while like It's a Dell G5 laptop. It's an all AMD laptop It has a Ryzen APU in it and a dedicated like RX graphics card and Linux typically does not play nice on it over here. This is the only stable distribution where Everything works with a card It just everything works I don't even have any pulse audio issues here like it doesn't do any weird mic switching I don't have to like Re-plug in my microphone or ensure that I don't boot up without my microphone plugged in none of that weirdness it everything just works it's Beautiful and snappy which is great So Katie me I'll check it out. It's pretty great. All right, so For those of you who are patrons You'll know that this topic has been done before but by me solo because I deleted that video But the audio is fine. So that's been up for patrons for a couple weeks But I wanted to talk about this with Tyler because I thought we'd have an interesting discussion so for me, I have a couple answers to this question and There's a kind of surprising answer because you'd think that I'd say Arco or Gerudo or something like that But I don't think that's true because I think a lot of people like Arco and Gerudo. Those are fairly popular arch spin-offs So I wasn't gonna choose one of those because I don't think that they're really underrated I think the people who want to use Arco or Geruda use Arco or Geruda Or they use Manjaro or something like that someone like that so for me my answer was Sparky Linux and I Really really like Sparky. So if you don't know what Sparky is Sparky is basically Debian. It's Debian stable I think they have an unstable version as well But the one I tried was the Debian stable version and it's basically just Debian It's like a minimal install of Debian, but with they have four ISOs They're all on the front page. So you don't have to worry about actually finding the ISO And they use the Calamari's installer It's really easy to install really stable has access to all the Debian Repositories out of the box. You don't have to worry about enabling Backports and stuff like that. It's just it just works. It's really good Sparky really impressed me when I tried it now That was my answer when I did that solo podcast and I still really like Sparky, but Since that time I've taken another look at MX Linux now. This is another Debian based distro and they it's really It really surprised me because I looked at it before when I first started the channel and I Remember really liking it But this time it just really kind of hit something for me because they have a ton of tools They have a MX tweak tool that has a ton of stuff in it and they've gone through and just made a very neat like beginner friendly distribution That has a ton of tools that help like they have a GUI for changing your bash RC. Did you know that? Like really they have a GUI you can go through and you can change your prompt You can go through and add aliases you can go through and do pretty much anything you could do in a bash RC But it's a GUI like it's the weirdest tool that has ever existed And I would never use it because I would just you know open up them and open up bash RC But for those people who have never they don't know what a bash RC is or how that's incredible You know changing your prompt or whatever coming if you have to change your prompt and bash and normally you have to go through And you have to know the syntax of how to do it and with this tool you can go through not only Create a prompt, but you can save that prompt for ages For later like if you have multiple prompts you want to use you can switch between them in a GUI way Just it's just in a list. It's really cool So I don't think that you could really call I don't know if you can qualify MX as an underrated this trip because I mean a lot of people use it but I really do think it's very good and I Think if you're if you're looking for a Debian based distro MX or Spark you're probably You know Probably the two of the best dev if you're gonna use Debian use one of those two now if you're not look I'm gonna have a third answer Damn it Another one that really impressed me was was gecko links now the thing about gecko links is that it's open Suza based and You're like wait a minute. There are open Suza based distros There is there are open so open Suza based distros and one of them is called gecko Linux now It's really good now. It has the same some of the same issues that open Suza has but it was actually very stable and it fixed a few of the things that open Suza had promised with and It's called gecko Linux. So it has a cool name. So I'm gonna read your name whether you like it or not the daiku likes like slow swords. Thanks for the super chat Do you use nvm tree? Also, love your videos. Well, thank you for liking the videos. I Envm tree. I don't is that like the built-in File manager for them. I don't know I use nerd tree for a file man. I'm not sure and then tree is I Think in vim tree is like the the file like picker file browser for Neo vim. I think yeah, it might also just be a plug-in for regular vim. I know that Vim has like a built-in file picker. It's called New nerd tree knit new tree or something. I know it's it's called something really weird But I never use it because I prefer a nerd tree. So Um Yeah, no same nerd tree is fantastic. It's just it's just good, you know, I was like yesterday I was going through an opening up files while I was scripting and I was using colon e to open I was like and then typing out the full path. I was like wait a minute Why am I doing this? I have a file manager inside vim It was done. Anyways, it just sometimes I forget about sometimes it forgets there. Anyways, thanks for the super chat there I do appreciate that. I don't get super chats very often So I have literally no clue what to do with them at the time. Yeah, so I do appreciate that anyways Yeah, so those are my answers for the the the most underrated distro, but I Think some of them are probably kind of cop outs because like Sparky's like the only one there That's kind of like a really underrated distro Like the hardly anyone uses so MX is really popular as far as I know, but I think that it could be even more popular. It's really good those tools man, yeah Like if I and I think somebody told me it's whether or not it's true I think MX and Spark I think MX at least doesn't use system D But I don't know if that person was trolling me or not. So it's possible that it could be wrong. I Noticed I didn't notice it because then who the hell interacts with her in its system. Exactly. It really doesn't matter Like I did that so I did that poll last week, right? I said I was gonna do a poll who was interacted with who it How often do you interact with your in its system? And I had some interesting answers So like a lot of people use system D to do to read to do reboots and select that with it on their system So they interact with it every day And it's pop it I think that if you're running a system base district a system D base distro And you go into your terminal and hit shut down now what you're technically doing is interacting with system D I think that that's the case because I think shut down is just an alias to System service or something Okay, so Milo says system D does not use system D. Okay, so so that person did not troll me. That's good But I said I didn't notice it because I mean I don't interact with I mean I didn't go through and start up services or something Like that'd be the only time I'd interact with the the You know the NS system, so I wouldn't even noticed Well, I mean but the thing about it is like I messed around with run it open RC and system D and like First off who cares it doesn't matter. It's an in-it system To they all work So who cares and the third one is as soon as you worked with them all who cares? They all have the same sort of idea They just go about starting a service a different way Just who cares wait they all work Yeah, I'm not gonna pick a distro because it uses one particular in its system I mean you'd you'd have you have to have us very specific A gripe against system D in order to hate it. Otherwise, I mean there has to be something that I mean it has to have kidnapped your baby or Or burnt your house down or something for you to dislike it because because otherwise I Like I could understand like if you're like an IT administrator or you're a programmer of some kind and you're constantly Interacting with it and maybe it has bugs or something you've noticed or it doesn't work in a way that you want to want to work I can understand not liking it. But for the mass vast majority of normies out there who Even if you use it to shut down your computer, you probably don't know you're using it to shut down your computer so I mean chances are you don't care about system D so And that's probably the way it should be now you can the other side of the argument is that well It's kind of become a standard in every distribution uses it and that's not great for Linux Linux is the place where we should have nine different ways of doing things and that's I mean My response to that as well. We have nine different ways of doing it in a system We have 12 different systems, you know and those things exist They are not popular for reasons because like the thing about open RC and running all those things They don't do everything system D does not even close system D is it is a suite of Applications that does more than just being in a net system like it has an internet system inside of it But it has a ton of other things that it does so when you go through and use something like run it Which is just an internet system. That's all run it is You have to have other things to do the stuff that other that system D does you know outside of that If you want those things to you know work, so They just because you know you're using a You know a non system D distro doesn't you know Mean that you have to you can't it doesn't mean That you get away with not doing those other things that system does also that Here's the thing that bothers me Tyler is that the people who use non system D distros are so proud About the fact that they don't use system D like you know I'm you're the arch people all over again, but for an internet system. Okay, like I don't I use run it by the way, you know I think I Don't I I I don't care You know like I don't care where this is me good for you, man I'm so happy that you find an internet system that you like But for me I interact with the internet system so rarely that I couldn't care what internet system I'm using as long as it works like literally that's what I want to have happened I want my computer to turn on in the morning, and I want to get to my Websites and open up, you know OBS and do this stuff. That's I want to work if it works. I don't give a crap Maybe I maybe I'm you know Naive or something and think that things don't matter, but I don't think it matters. No, I mean a lot of those people treat System D like it's a piece of malware or it's like somehow malicious. It's like it's just an internet system It's not dangerous. It's not scary It doesn't matter if you like something like I really like run it But I can't I can't really use run it for reasons, but I really like it So I mean if you prefer another internet system, that's awesome, you know, just enjoy what you like, but I I don't understand the like hatred and the like Like the pride that some people get for being like I'm I'm not a system D user Yeah, they look down on the system D people like whatever I mean, I can understand not liking it because it's controlled by a corporation like it's it's developed by Red Hat like GNOME and like Xorg and Wayland and PipeWire like Red Hat if they decided to take everything proprietary Linux would be screwed. So Well, we've known that forever, right? We've known that forever and it's probably never going to happen But you know, even if it does we could still fork the stuff if we had to So I mean I can understand I can understand that argument But I don't think I mean if we're so anti-corporation backing open-source software Linux would be done for because I hate to break it to these people But we need those corporations to invest in open-source software. Otherwise PipeWire is never going to get fixed or Wayland's never going to become mainstream or Snaps are never going to get better, you know, and what will Dylan do then, you know Yeah, it's weird. It's almost like for any industry to succeed. There needs to be money being put into it It's a weird thing, isn't it? Wow Yeah I hate to break it again to you, but Linux the people who use Linux most of them cheap bastards, you know, they don't want to spend any money I mean And it's just the way it is sometimes and that's okay. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that I can't claim any moral high ground and say well, I've put 20 000 dollars in the last year into open-source software Because that's not true Like I should I support bit warden. I support arco linux. I've given them maybe 30 bucks over the last year. So, you know, I'm a cheap straight just along with everybody else, but you can't if you want linux to Be as successful as now not not even talking about making it more successful Have to have some corporate, you know backing. Um, and I think that if we had to have corporate backing red hat and canonical or probably you know The best evil that we could possibly have because it could be worse. It could be Microsoft it could be google Being the biggest open-source software and we know that they don't actually care about open-source at least canonical and red hat seemed to do so Yeah, well, but I mean the the scary part is is I mean, it's not scary, but again money's got to come from somewhere and These are the people with the most money But the evil corporations are the ones who fund the not so evil corporations We live in a very weird world. It's not black and white like people would like it to be Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's it's I don't know. It's just You get to a point where some of the linux community just kind of doesn't They they wanted to be an ideal place where everything's open and there's no corporate influence and it's just Would we like to live in that in that kind of world? Maybe But linux should be a lot smaller. It'd be a lot more broken than it is today I guarantee it like it just would like well, I mean I mean people talk I mean exactly what you're talking about people don't want corporations involved. Look if valve never put any interest in linux I don't know that I would be using I because I just I wouldn't be able to play any games That I wanted to play on linux So I wouldn't have even started playing around with it trying it out It would just be that weird obscure thing that like I'm Offhand know about but you know don't really play with That's a really good point because And it's so true. I mean like if valve decided today that they didn't want to do linux anymore We'll be screwed because there's yeah a lot of people would leave Like there'd be no linux games other than zero ad Yeah, that'd be the only game like when Tyler would be like, I'll be fine Like I'm good now. That's the only game I need My addiction would be like good. Yes Like I chose a good one, but for everybody else who wants to play literally anything else. I mean I mean, I don't want to besmirch the open source developers who do open source games on linux Because there are a lot of good ones zero ad is out there tucks carts out there. I mean, there's several You know zinotic or whatever it is Really good games that are open source and well developed and that stuff But those are kind of it. I mean if you want a triple a game The only way you're playing that is thanks to a large corporation. You know, it's just the sad fact of it and even if Like I'm sure that the developers and stuff like outside because like wine existed before you know seems like wine was here But wine wouldn't be where it is now without Backing from steam because steam does a lot of stuff that puts upstream and into wine so I'm not saying all corporations are good We know that that's not true Not even close to being true, but we can't be so you know blind as to say You know corporations shouldn't take part in open source software because we'd be screwed if if that came to pass Gaming would be And if the evil corporations want to give us money we'd be stupid not to take it Right. Yes indeed Well, I especially see how We as a community aren't willing to or even able to Put that kind of money forth to do the development work ourselves. I mean We we've seen time and time again pure open source Projects put out pleas for money and then just not get enough to be able to go forth because they can't go through and You know get enough money to You know pay their bills and feed their families. They have to go get a job That's the reason why most open source projects are done as side projects You know And there are some open source projects that can't be side projects like firefox Uh, like look, let's be real as dumb as mozilla can be if it wasn't for google We wouldn't have the best open source browser we have just saying Mozilla is a completely different argument for me because I think that they could do what they do with a lot less money Mostly because they you know pay their CEO way too much, but you're entirely right that They would need money from someplace and it's painfully obvious that it's not going to come from their community you know well mozilla is a weird beast because I completely agree with you. I think right now they could afford to not uh to not be getting that money But firefox would not be competitive and where it is now and in the position to not need that money Without google's help to get there or google's money to get there. That's more accurate We have gone on a huge tangent here Like we started here and then we ended up all the way over here I don't even know how we got there Like That was the weirdest tangent ever. It was great. Um Yes, we were talking about most underrated links distros. Um, so what I one last thing on this is that Uh We could have come up with any number of answers for this because there are Thousands of Linux distributions out there. Um, it's just I mean I came up. I came up with I I found another one The other day call or today that I'm gonna make a video on called voyager linux. It's based on a boon to 21 on that 10 It looks like ganome to me But I don't know actually much about it, but I'm gonna do another what wtf video on it, but I was like It's good. No, you'll love it. I'm sure it's gonna be fan I'm but the thing is, you know, that's just another example like there's So many links distributions out there and you can make the argument whether or not that is good or bad for linux Like too much choice is maybe a bad thing or Maybe too much choice is a good thing, you know one way or another but I think just down just Coming to to the close that it's kind of awesome Yeah, I think it's I think it's really cool. I mean without so many distros I wouldn't have a channel because Yeah, if all we had was a boon to or fedora, I mean it'd be so boring Boring man Tyler has made streams Looking at weird linux distros like and he came with a boon to ce or whatever and uh, there's christian edition There's dude, there's apartheid linux for literally if you're a neo-nazi There's a linux distro for you if there's political distributions. There's state distributions like government distribution There is a linux distribution for any type of personnel You can be the weirdest person out there and in the smallest minority And there's a linux distro for you. That's why I crack up at people who tell you or Tell others I can't use linux because it doesn't work for me You mean to tell me that out of the thousands of distros out there not one works for you. Come on now Come on You just haven't found it yet Okay In the in the comments. Kelsey has has called me out for calling it gnom. Okay, so let me let me explain Let's get real here for a second. It's pronounced gnom for reason because gnom is an acronym Okay, and we can I'm going to open up wikipedia here Because everything we all know That wikipedia is the best place and we're going to search for gnom and we're gonna just we're just going to go uh, of course Gnom actually, you know takes you to gnomes like It stands for the gnu network object model environment now It's no longer actually stands for that but when it first started. That's what it was called And it was that's what it was that's what it stood for. That's why it's called gnom. Just like Gnu is pronounced gnu. Okay, so that's why we pronounce it gnom now If you do pronounce it with a silent g that's fine. There's nothing wrong that you're not doing anything wrong But don't call out other people for saying gnom because we are actually pronouncing it the way it used to be pronounced Okay, now that I've schooled the chat I'm just going to put that out there because I keep getting I got uh That in that video I did where I used gnom for a week I I got like five comments saying you're saying it wrong Um, like no, I'm not No, I'm not just like like no, I'm not. Okay, uh, there are many things that I say Like I butcher people's names all the time like I have a new youtube member His or her uh Name I'm just gonna I'm gonna slaughter it. It's gonna be the next time I had to say it In fact, I'll probably be at the end of this video. It's going to be embarrassing for both me and the new member But I you know, but gnom, I know how to pronounce it now somebody also said that I was saying open suzer wrong Is it open suzer or open suze? Because somebody's open suzer. That's what I thought that's the way I've always said it but apparently Open suze is the way they're supposed to pronounce it. I don't know. I thought it was open suzer same um so Some of the pronunciations of things are weird. So like if you use a boon to a boon to mate. It's mate. It's it's that's the way they I love it when people call it mate. What what is this mate? It's like To this day every once in a while joe collins will uh pronounce it mate Like he but he knows it's mate. Like and he always um, he always talks about his uh audience Because apparently his audience gets pissed off over how he pronounces it every once in a while too. So Yeah, uh, it is mate. It's named it's named after a south american drink or something. I don't it's it's weird But people it's it's named after after yerba mate. Um, I I used to drink it It's it's a fantastic alternative to coffee Way off topic there, but there you go. That's what it's named after you say so, bro Anyways Okay, so we went from here And now we're back there somewhere Okay, uh, so, uh, anything left to say on most underrated distro before we That was where we started. Okay, uh, so every week tyler and I scour the interwebs for Apps picks things that we can share with you that we think are awesome So we call them apps of the week. Sometimes they're picks of the week. Sometimes they're tips of the week Uh, so tyler, what is your thing of the week? Mine is lsd. I believe we've talked about it. Um, I don't know if we Uh, I have talked about it in our previous episode of the podcast maybe um, but uh, I know I've talked about it on my channel. I use it a lot it's amazing Um, so again, if you're someone who uses the terminal lock, which like let's be honest if you're watching this most likely you do um ls deluxe or lsd is It's just your regular ls command, but it Got night it cleans it up. It makes it look much cleaner It it adds color to it as well as gives things icons It it just makes using and uh Managing files and just in general your your actual computer inside of your terminal It it just makes it look much nicer and if we're being honest, uh A lot of us like to neglect aesthetics when it comes to our computers Or indulge if you're someone who neglects the aesthetic of your computer Look, it's super simple to install if you if it's not in your uh distros repository You can easily install it with pip It it's really not that hard And make make your terminal life awesome. Okay use lsd. What's the difference between this and exa? Um, I honestly can't answer that because I've never used exa Okay, so I'm going to try to share my screen here. This is probably going to break something But if I go into a terminal and you're not going to be able to see this tyler But everybody else will be on the stream if I do an ls here, which I have alias to exa Uh, so I'm interested to find out. I'm going to have to try that because I'd love to know what the uh difference is between those two um Because exa basically does everything you're talking about um, but with more I don't know It looks even nicer. I at least from the screenshot that I saw um, anyways So that's cool Actually lsd looks very similar because I I do have a stream So I can see it. It looks very similar to that. It does it. Yeah Okay, cool. I mean, they're probably exactly the same of course one of them is probably written in rust because of course, I mean anyways, so that is that's awesome some My pick of the week Is the most self-serving selfish piece of Thing I've ever done. So this is a script that I wrote called al changer Now I'm a horrible namer of scripts. I can't help it But basically what this script will do and I did a video on this but Uh, this script if you run this script via key binding or in the terminal or whatever will bring up rophy and allow you to change your alacrity theme between four or five different themes like actually eight different themes and um It's really cool. So I'm awesome. I've been using this now for a couple days And I've switched back and forth between the monokai pro rice I did yesterday to grove box to Back to dracula and it's just a matter of a key binding and it'll change my alacrity theme to those things And it's really good now. You do have in order for this to work. You have to have My alacrity config in order to get it to work because you have to have alacrity can fix it up in a certain way and do it but Yeah, that is um al changer. I'm horrible at naming things I guess it's really bad, but uh It's a really cool script. I do need to go through and see if I can go through and um Make that horrendous of if statement a little bit You know Better because right now it's just if elif if elif if elif, you know, yeah But it works. Uh, I've never proclaimed to be the best bad descriptor in the world Uh, everybody knows that i'm a complete new when it comes to this, but It does work. So that is my uh pick of the week So, uh, I think That is it for us and it is Almost five o'clock in the fucking afternoon So we're not gonna we're not going to do a dedicated, uh question and answer session this time normally We try to fit that in but we won't do that this time So if you have questions, you can leave them in the comments of the video When it goes up tomorrow now the way this works If you are Uh, for whatever reason you're just tuning in and you want to go back and watch this Uh, don't leave this page. Just go ahead and scrub all the way back to the beginning and watch it Once you navigate away the video will go away because it's going to go unlisted after this because I'm very picky when it comes to views and I want them all in one place My ocd just acts Right up if they're split like last week We got the same amount of views that we always did but we only got 500 on the edited version and 300 on the other And it's the same amount as always but they were splitting it drove me crazy and I was the whole week Yeah, so That is definitely uh, so this video will go unlisted Once we stop recording, but if you need to keep watching it just stay on the page. Don't reload That's the way that works And usually I try to remember to actually link to this recording in the record in the edited version That way if you want to watch the chat because there was a lot of chat this time We had a peak of 50 people watching at the same time Holy crap. 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So that is it for us this week coming up Next week holy hell we're doing the five app challenge now I don't know if you know this but I don't think I actually discussed this with you This is something that I just came up with and technically it's your turn to choose a topic But we'll do this and then you can go through and put in some topics When you're not playing do it 080 Yeah, like a complete addict You need help man you need help You need to find a group or something and you did not use It's a good thing 080 is not on your phone because you'd be doing it at work Anyways, all right. So the five app challenge. This is where it's going to work. We're going to find five apps Okay, they don't have to be open source or anything. They have to work on linux. That's the only rule for that But they have to be things that you've never used before just barely used And share them for every app that you found that the other person has never heard of or used before You get a point the person who Has the most points at the end wins Okay, so you're gonna need to do a little prep work for this And I will have to do a little prep work for this as well So find some apps don't put them in the show notes leave them obviously on a piece of paper somewhere so that we can't cheat Yep, because we'll both know that we're both cheating cheaters who cheat That's just true So, uh, yeah, that should be really fun and also just a note We are still planning on our next like big challenge to be the rice wars Where we will both take a window manager and we will rice them side by side time the person who gets done fastest wins But we haven't figured out how we're going to record it yet. So I love to figure out how to do this live But I don't know How we would go about doing it yet. So that's something we're going to have to talk about tyler to see if Between the two of us we can kind of brainstorm how we'd go about doing that um, no I mean We could use something like uh, like a screen sharing like a screen or Like one of those things where you like ssh into someone else's computer And so you could like rice my computer Like but I don't know. I don't know. We wouldn't be able to do it side by side Maybe what we do is just do a simple simply like I I rice mine and time it and then you rice yours and time it and then we'll Whoever went that way instead of doing it side by side. I don't know. We'll have to talk about anyways for that is It for us this week. Thanks everybody for watching. See you next time