 yw'r tîm. Ynglyn yw'r drwsfynol yng ngyfaint. Yn yfynol, yn dweud yw'r ddweud. Ond yw'r ddweud ynglyn yw'r ddweud. Mae'n ddweud, mae'n ddweud yw'r ddweud, mae'n ddweud yw'r ddweud mae'n ddweud yn ymddangos, mae'n ddweud ddweud mae'n ddweud yn ddweud, yn ddweud ymddangos y ddweud yw'r ddweud yn ymddangos. Mae'n ddweud, mae'n ddweud yw'r ddweud o ddweud yw'r ddweud yw'r ddweud. Mae'n ddweud, mae'n ddweud yw'r ddweud, mae'n ddweud am y cwmideil cwmwyno. Mae yna hyd ynw'r ddweud ar y franfodd ynglyn ynglyn i Kongo. sy'n gwybod i chi'n wahanol oherwydd, sy'n gwybod i chi'n oed ac mae'r myfyrddfa sydd eistedd. Ond… Gwybod i chi'n rhan oedd y gallu ddweud o'r ddau ymlaen o'r dr. Mae yw i'n meddwl i ni ddim yn eithaf oedd y gallu ddau i chi'n meddwl i'i gweithio o gyda'ch amgylchai gweddedd y gwasanaeth i'r hoffaidd yma i'r gwasanaeth, ac i wychwch hwnnw. Mae'n ffwrdd no gwybod i chi'n meddwl i'i gweithio mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio. Mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio sydd cyfrifio a'n ddweud o'r ffles. Mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio sydd cyfrifio yn ddweud o'r cyfrifio. A gyd, a chyd yn fyddechrau, mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio sydd yn ddweud o'r cyfrifio. Felly, rwy'n gweithio i'r ddweud o'r cynnigol yng nghymhysig. Yr cyfrifio yn y canwy, ddweud o'r cyfrifio, mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio? Felly, yn omnol. Mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio sydd y onebyt料u mae'n ddweud o'r cyfrifio sydd yn ddweud o'r cyfrifio sydd gan eu gymaint o'r cyfrifio sydd. Mae'r cyfrifio cyfrifio sydd yn ddweud o'r cyfrifio sy'n sgrifêr cyd-deithas sydd hi'w gyd yn syniad, i wahos o'ch hawdd ar gyfer ddechrau lat a yn fwy o'i gryffo. Os oes oed yn gwahanol o'r hosbty global, mae oedd y selectau ar y cerdd yn syniad, a diodd phan sy'n gwahod e wneud o gyflym o bobl. Rydyn ni'n y gallu cyfrif hon i wneud o'r hosbwy. Y simply one feeling was how she will succeed because she's in a very bad condition destroyed. And I was wondering if even if we treat her how she will cope with the situation she went through. Most of the time, when I make this some time difficult operation I can take me six, eight hours some time. I was so touching to see that women when they wake up, they are not wake up, when they wake up is not for themselves. And when they ask the first question is how is my child? How is my husband? How is my family? And this is really so touching for me, because I use also to treat men. And I can see that when men wake up, the question is how is the operation? What is my future after this operation? Women are thinking more about others, inspired to think about themselves. And for me, I think that really, this is so touching me and pushing me to try to do as much as I can for women in my hospital. So, we've talked a lot about the difference between men and women. And there's been much discussion around the world these days about this incredible new movement of women's empowerment. There's a scene in the film, which we won't show because I want to talk to him. But there was a scene where I went into a jail and I photographed men who were accused of extreme sexual violence. And the policemen let them out of their jail cell for a few minutes so that I could do this picture, because I wanted to see that side of the story, otherwise it remains a mystery. And of course, when the man sat in front of me and when I showed this in the movie, you responded to that picture and you also responded to a picture I took of a young woman who was a survivor of sexual violence and when I photographed her, she did not cover her face in shame. She stood proud, noble and dignified and courageous because she wanted her face to be an example of courage for everybody else. Can you talk to me about what that meant to you because something happened in your mind that something crystallised? Yeah, when I saw this film and I saw these two images, I think something happened in me and I said, oh, this is really a good beginning of the fight against sexual violence because most of the time and in many countries, I travel a lot in many countries and I can see that when it happens that a woman is raped, the shame is on the women. And the way that men are treating women is like the body of women belong to men, to the community. So the women have to feel ashamed when she's raped. And this is a way also of keeping rape in our society because women can't talk freely about rape because they know that the consequence will be to be excluded. Maybe some time to be killed, the crime of honour exists in some places in the world. So it's very dangerous for women to talk about rape. Even if there are victims, they can't talk freely about what's happened for them. And yesterday I told you, when it happened to children, parents feel more responsibility and you can see that in less than 24 hours, when they can see that it happened directly they have to come to the hospital or to the police to complain. But when it happened to adults, most of the time is the question, what will happen with my husband? What will happen with my community? How other will think about me? It's happened because I like it or... So it's always questions about what happened. So women are suffering for the social norms. And these social norms bring that women have a shame when it happened for them. But there I saw one thing wonderful. To see that men hide his face and the victim stand up and talk freely to say, it happened to me, it was a bad thing. They tried to destroy me, but I still alive and I love even my child. And this is a courage to show that we can shift the same, the shame from women to perpetrators. But we have to work on it so it can happen everywhere. So in normal leadership ideology, we think that the man is in a dominant position. And in that picture, the male and female role was reversed and also the victim and the victor was reversed. Exactly. So this leads me to a question that people ask me a lot with the new movement for women's empowerment, particularly the Me Too movement. How should men behave now? Many people say that men are concerned. They are a little anxious. They don't know maybe they shouldn't be so confident. How should they respond to women in the workplace? What is the role of a man? And some men say they might be threatened by this women's empowerment. We talked about this yesterday and you said some amazing things. But what do you think about that? I think that what is keeping rape in our society is silence. Because when rapists know that, women will never talk about it because she will face consequences of what happened to her. So I think that women will just keep silence. But in silence, she can be raped again and again. And in this condition, she can't also protect others against this rapist because he can do it with others in the family or in the society. So silence is really a strong tool for rapists to use for they can go on destroying girls and women. So to fight the system, silence is one of the most important. And I think that when really we can give the world to women to be able to talk about what happened to them, I think that this will be and it is a strong tool because there all men before to do a rape, he will think twice because he knows that it will not be a secret. It will happen and the women will talk about it. And really, I think that men don't have to feel that it's a threat. I think that many men are not rapists. Most of men are not rapists. It's just a small number of men who are rapists. And this small number, I think that they are protected by the other men who are not rapists. You can see the solidarity of men when it comes to rape. Men are always what he says, soldier to other men. And I think that the only one way to move and try to end sexual violence is really to give women the possibility to talk and to don't be victim because they just denounce when it happens. And this, I think that for example the movement Me Too or Black Silence and so on, all this movement we should really, we men, we should be behind and just support because I know that all the men are not rapists and it's a way to create a new way to see. I can say it's a positive masculinity and we have really to ban the dominant masculinity who are just putting to say that men are completely, they are not equal to women. I mean I've never met someone who is as much a champion for women and women's rights as you and you are a man. And you won the Nobel Peace Prize. So there are benefits for the men who are on the fence. So, on a serious note, let's go very deep into the human condition because you again, going back to you as a doctor, a doctor heals. But you said something to me recently that really got me and I actually teared up at the lunch table and I tried not to do it in front of you but I kept it inside because I'm a man. I asked you about what happens in surgery and after surgery when a woman wakes up and you answered that beautifully. You said that sometimes you're not successful in the operation and you can't fix the damage that has been done. Can you talk, I know it's a sensitive subject but can you talk about that because there's a sensitive people here. This is a safe place to talk about the human condition. Yeah. You know, most of the victims I'm treating at the hospital are very young. And talking with victims, you have to bring them to believe in you and this trust is just coming very quickly with women at the hospital. And when I'm discussing with women, the big question because when their genital is destroyed, sometimes they are linking, they can't get the control of their own body and this is a terrible sense because they are excluded from their own community because they can't get the control of their body. What do you feel like? When you can't succeed. Exactly, I'm coming to this. And before to make the operation, you know that this young girl was destroyed she didn't get really her childhood and she asked you, doctor, what will happen for me after the operation? Can you confirm that I will be able to be as other women or can you tell me if I will go to children after this operation? And when you are operating, sometimes you can face really a big problem you have just nothing to make this operation so she can recover her feminity. I can tell you that for me it's a torture as a surgeon when she wakes up and I have to tell her that it was not possible to fix for example the continents because all the urethra was completely destroyed and just know that I'm telling her that you didn't get your childhood and you'll never get your feminity. It's terrible, not only for the victim but also for me because I can just be in her position and feel what she's feeling to see that her life is completely destroyed by someone who loses his humanity in the way to treat her. And you mentioned that there is a mechanism in our humanity and in some cases you can trigger a mechanism of violence and this is what often causes this problem. It's a trigger. Yeah, exactly. I think that we are not as human we are not really created to be violent and when you are in the face of someone who is facing maybe something very suffering I think that all of us you can feel also bad about what happened or the suffering of another person. This is an empathy and we have this empathy but sometimes and especially with the pressure of our society where men have to be different. Men, for to dominate others you don't need to get compassion. You need to be violent so you can dominate another person and I think that in losing this empathy in you you lose this capacity to see another person as yourself and feel the same inside you when someone is suffering in front of you. And I think that the lack of this empathy is a way that our society creates the way we can dominate women and just think that I need to be violent to protect myself I need to be violent to put rule on place I need to be violent and so on but I think that this is not the way that we are created. Men and the women we should be empathic but you can see that the way that we are we grow up men most of the time is to tell us you are a man you can't cry you are a man you can't get emotion. It's not normal. We should get all emotion and we should be proud to get emotion because I think for me I'm kind and it's not a shame for me because I just feel that I can put myself in the position of the person on front of me who is suffering. It's not a shame but in the education most of the time in my country is to say a man can't cry a man must be strong a man must dominate and I think that this is a way really to be to dominate women and to be violent with women to show that we are strong intelligent and so on and it's not true it's just a way to get control of women. Looking back you said historically and a general statement but I believe it that men have always fought to dominate and women have always fought to be equal and to share and to be equal and to share is the highest thing to aim for not to dominate. Exactly and in the hospital you can see it clear as I said at the beginning you can see that when I said about when a women wake up the reaction is how are others around me to take care of others is to share also is to share but women is how I can be more strong to dominate so how will be my future how I will function after this operation and I think that this is clear it's not something that we have in our DNA it's creating by the social norms for only dominate in culture, video games, TV it's like this glamourization of violence as well and masculinity this forced masculinity. Toxic masculinity. I told you he's poetic. So we're running out of time I could talk here in front of these amazing people for hours but we're running out of time so I want to ask you one last question before I get in big trouble with my friends at World Economic Forum. You once said a word to me that was reparation. What does that mean? I want to say that I travel in many countries where the war happened and talking with women I think that one thing that I find is that maybe they can access to the treatment but the big question is the reparation this reparation is for me a way to get the healing for victim of sexual violence. It is to be recognized by the community, by the society that we are wrong to don't protect you so we need to do a reparation for our lack of protection and I think that in many countries this discussion is a very big discussion because even countries don't want really to do this reparation and I know that in the country where there is a war women should be protected and if it don't happen I think that all of us should take responsibility because we have this responsibility to protect each other and when it don't happen we need to do this reparation but it's so hard to get it and I just want to make a call my organization is working now to get a global fund for the global fund for reparation it don't care if women come from Africa or Europe or America I think that the reaction of women are the same when this happen so we should get a solidarity with women around the world and create this global fund for if the government or the one who did this damage can't do it for a reason or another the world should get this solidarity to make this reparation and when we talk about reparation many people have the impression that reparation is to distribute money no when I got discussion with women I was so surprised to see that for many women reparation is only some time to ask that the leaders can just apologize for what happened reparation can be also for some women to build a memorial to just say this is enough to acknowledge and put it somewhere in a village or in a town to say in this town we don't accept again that women can be red and I think that this we can do it if we join our forces thank you firstly I know you're standing not certainly not for me I know you're standing for him but I would like to say you're also standing for what you're about to do that's why you're standing and we have to ask ourselves a question are we to be bystanders?