 what's that song yeah yeah yes the gift yes yes that's right yes one of the most perfectly produced songs in the history of music that song so does your mom welcome back to our stupid reaction to eating some corvina i'm ready if i had full dentures i'd purposefully make them follow my mouth one time just go today we are doing a movie review of our second konjabi language film with a few people in it uh one of the quickest from trailer reaction to movie reviews i mean can you blame us guys based off who's pinia blame us it is just based off all of the acting and we needed to do another punjabi film and acting and earphone and no uh but yes this is a kisa yes i would call it kisa kisa yep i don't know if there's a better pronunciation for that but the tale of a lonely ghost uh is that what made you think of that song yes that's what i thought about it but it's a 2000 when did this come out right 2000 i want to say if i'm 2013 oh yeah i was gonna say it's not that long ago um that was eight years ago yeah there was like yeah 2009 or something but directed and written by say by here i have it on my notes as well uh anup sing anup sing which what's the deal here we go again his second film oh dang dang uh starring a bunch of people but the main four are earphone con tisca shopra uh till it's time i shan't sh how do you say your last name shome shome shome and uh rasika and rasika dugal dugal uh those are the dugal or dugal i don't know i'm gonna guess it's dugal dugal that sounds right right um but i know a lot of you haven't seen this film and i don't really know where it's available and i don't know why available yeah but seems strange if you haven't if you haven't watched it uh go watch it and then come back um it's kind of hard to talk about without spoiling it's it's impossible there's kind of a big thing to talk about there at the end um several things happen that's just to to dive into the film we're gonna have to talk about some things that unfortunately we may get only like 27 people who watch this review yeah because you all need to go watch the movie and then come back we saw it on a site um but i think it movie somebody said it might be available z it might be available but those aren't available for us exactly more than likely it's way more available for you in india than it is for us here in the states yeah um but i know a lot of you didn't see this film um but regardless we wanted to watch it solo trailer yes um so rick your initial thoughts please it lived up to die uh i have a lot to say i wrote a paragraph but it's about the moral what what i think the basic meaning of the film is so i wrote a paragraph about that but as far as the the actual film is concerned i only had a couple of things that i wish were a little bit different mm-hmm other than that i i really really liked it a lot uh i liked all except for maybe the last 10 minutes oh you didn't like the last 10 minutes i will get to the ending and i'll talk about why i okay i didn't i didn't really enjoy that part but the rest of it i mean in terms of acting it's gonna be hard to get better than this for a lot of you this is it's one of my favorite earphone performances because it's so different so different for him and i love it when actors do that and that was why one of my things with even though we haven't seen all this stuff i'm like earphone he's phenomenal i would love to see him do some different stuff and clearly we just hadn't seen enough um that he did a phenomenal let's talk about the acting first because yeah we're gonna talk about all four of these actors but earphone first man the dude is incredible because in this once again if you haven't seen it go watch it please go watch it i don't want to spoil anything um this guy is awful okay but the way earphone plays him you still for some god knows what reason sympathize for him and that's the mark of a great actor it's the mark of a great actor a well written character and the best part about that which is not a surprise coming from one of the greatest actors who has ever graced the screen is the fact that this is the kind of role that an inexperienced actor would turn into a stereotype make him a villain and make him a villain even though he is and it would make him a stereotype and it goes against everything so the school of thought that i come from when it comes to acting is udahagen and then the person who took the baton from her who i'm blessed to say is my acting teacher uh is is howard fine and one of the cardinal sins of this approach to acting is to to prejudge a character because we never prejudge ourselves and i promise you there's things about ourselves that are repugnant yeah and we don't see them and we don't think they're repugnant because it's us yeah so you cannot do that to a character you're playing most especially one that you yourself because the thing you have to do another trade at udahagen and howard fine is you need to find yourself in the character yeah yeah you got to go to some places in yourself that are pretty deplorable and probably some places that you just aren't there and you've got to connect them somehow and make them and he did exactly what you said i was actually somewhat empathetic toward a guy that ordinarily i would want to see just beating the crap out so it's about halfway through i guess um because it's awful awful things yeah but i turned to my wife and i'm like here's what's incredible about your fun he could play he's playing him obviously honestly like we say yes you have to play him honestly right you can't this guy doesn't believe he's doing anything wrong yeah he also believes he everything he's doing is for the best of his family for the best for himself yeah it's not right by any stretch but you have to play the character that way you can't play him like um this terrible guy who just wants a son that like who would be an awful awful performance if an actor played it that way he plays it so honestly and also it's i don't know if it's his acting ability or if it's just a gift he has that some actors have this gift is that they just have a wonderful demeanor about them like ability about that they just can't shake and so that that helps them when they're playing this character that even though he's awful you still end up feeling for him for some reason and i would love to see him play a character that goes very um very off the character that always comes to mind for me for one of my favorite actors of all time is robin williams in one hour photo yeah because in that film you do you do like him at first you feel sorry for the guy but one of the reasons robin williams fans didn't like it which i wish they had seen him more than just the comic and seen him for the thespian because he was first and foremost an actor yeah uh was the dark dark place that that character goes and that character is scary yeah you don't like him whereas with this character he does scary things but the man himself and and it's one of the most important things to recognize because the demonization of bad guys is not uh it's first of all it's not honest because even it's like a really well-rounded the ultimate evil person we think of in contemporary history is hitler yeah well i promise you there were probably moments when if you were around him you probably might have liked the guy he's apparently very charismatic very charismatic probably told some great jokes yeah life of the party he was a freaking spectacular public speaker yeah and you can't just you know put him over to the side that way and i agree with you the the aspect of irfan just being a likable persona in and of himself helps it helps yeah now the ladies uh let's talk even though uh let's talk about the one we haven't really seen very much tisca tisca show bra who i think we've seen in in either short films or or small but not nearly as much as risiko or atilla atama yeah she did a phenomenal great job i i actually wish they could have fleshed out their relationship i would have loved to have seen more of her because i felt and it says a lot that is an ensemble you the movie stars irfan con everybody yeah and the rest of the cast is right there with him yeah you know i was as impressed with them as i was with the pika and pika absolutely when she was opposite irfan and big b and she's holding her own on screen with those guys yeah she i thought did a really good job i would have loved it even more because a couple of my gripes of the song which we'll get into later um i think it could have been two and a half hours it absolutely i think they could have fleshed this out it could have been uh so they could uh like their relationship the the whole dynamic with um you know the mom having to deal with the dad being a crazy person and what is the runtime uh about hour 50 i think yeah here's the challenge i think it wouldn't surprise me if the director if uh mr singe had uh if he had opted with the writer to keep it on the short side because they wanted to hit the film festival circuit and appeal to the mindset of the west it might have yeah our we've become indianized in terms of being okay with long run times now and i'm with you i would have if this had run 215 or 220 just to build up her relationship with him maybe give us a little more sure but i thought she did a phenomenal job she uh all of her scenes with irfan it was a beautiful awful beautiful moment when after irfan which one of one wonderful direction by uh are we getting into spoilers no no no no sorry okay yeah a little bit so obviously if you haven't seen it go watch it go watch it because we're gonna talk about some things in the film but the the moment where obviously the the son fell and then irfan after the doctor left beat his daughters i was so uncomfortable it was so well done it was extremely they didn't put score they just let you watch irfan beat these women mercilessly like with everything he had yeah which once again having irfan play that type of character i'm like oh my god you know the last time we saw him in a negative role quote-unquote pun thing tomorrow a little bit well no i'm thinking actually uh a seven kun maf when he was the abuse of husband okay yeah yeah yeah similar that character actually is a bit darker i think even though this guy does way worse stuff yes what that guy does is awful yeah yeah yeah and but there was a there was a bitter dark unredeemable edge to that guy there was i sensed from this character and it's the well roundedness of the writing directing and especially of irfan and the supporting people around him the uh and what this gets into what we'll talk about kind of the moral of the story uh he's he is what he is not just by reason of himself he's a product of what has happened yeah and you it's the nature versus nurture aspect of and i wonder if that was irfan's approach to the character he's like how much of this is really his responsibility and how much of this is he's become who he is because this is how he was taught to be right yeah yeah and so that after that moment which was an awful awful scene but so so well done the fact that they didn't put a score behind it they didn't they just let you feel beautiful beautiful right which is what i you want in that moment because it's an awful thing that's happening um but then after that they were talking and then irfan tries to have a touching moment with his wife yeah and she's and he lays down on her lap and i'm like bro right and she did a phenomenal job as an actress and you saw her uncomfortableness but she's shutting down you can't do anything that's exactly what i thought she's stuck man so i thought what is she gonna do i thought that was wonderful yeah i did a great job rasika tulutama boy loved it how much did you love the getting to know you scenes between the two of them when she's when she discovers the true nature for both of them both tulutama's believability of everything i thought about myself is shattered because of what i was lied about but i i found the last time i felt this connection with two women getting to know each other was in a film uh if you haven't seen this film it's portrait of a lady on fire from france and it's a it's that's all i'm gonna say and i i so loved their love for each other yeah i had a i i did i did really enjoyed their chemistry was off the charts i loved it i have an issue with the writing and how they built their characters a little bit in one way because they built it up when the heat she didn't know that she was a woman um they built it up there was a lot of the sexual tension they did a phenomenon both of them yes rasika tulutama did a phenomenal job in building their relationship they said i fell in love with the woman i fell in love that moment when they both laugh five minutes later we'll live together as friends and sisters right so i don't know what happened in the writing room whether they didn't want to go that route i'm fine if like after she found out she's a woman if if like they're like yeah we we we love each other we want to live as sisters or they love each other and they're gonna be together so they gave me multiple things there that it was like i don't i don't even know if you know what you want to do with this relationship yeah i i i i didn't have a problem that yeah yeah that didn't make any sense that i fell in love with the woman i fell in love with the woman five minutes later we'll live together as friends and sisters well it did for me like for example if it was the if you know if i were in a situation like that because i thought they loved each other and they like um like together like they wanted to be intimate with each other see that's that's what i thought that's where i'm in finals the other way but you have to build it that way but that's why i actually like that choice because what it does and i love stories like this is it takes it to the place where the love at that level a depth of compatibility and wanting to be together forever transcends the physical expression with one another well that's true but don't say i love you i love you but then we're gonna live together as brothers sister blah blah blah blah so those that was just a confusing part of it but once again it doesn't take away their that's just a writing nipik from me their performances were phenomenal tiscus Chopra quickly rising for me uh she this she was so different because the other two that we've seen her in outside of the prostitute in what was that um yeah sorry no awesome right um but that was just a little bit part anyway go ahead move on yeah um she was so different in this i even believed at times was like wait you mean risica i'm talking to tilatoma right now okay tillatoma got you because you said tisca so i immediately went over to tisca Chopra no no sorry yeah sorry till atama okay i even believed her multiple times as playing a man she i thought carried herself very well she she carried yourself way different than she carried her in the other films uh because there she had almost an innocence about her and i thought she did a phenomenal job the writing i thought did a good job and when she was putting on dresses i was like i even said a lot i'm like she's not gonna feel comfortable in a dress right her personality has been shaped even though she is a woman and like probably identifies as a woman her personality and self has been molded by her father who says she's been a man her entire life right so she's not just gonna be able to switch no no no it's it's like if like somebody just told me i was a woman and now i have to wear a bunch of dresses i wouldn't feel normal in that correct that's not how i was brought up for better or worse right yeah that's expected um but like i thought she did a really good job at handling those complexities of that character i did too which is not an easy thing to do i believed them all of the time all the way through up and until the end and and i so getting now to for me now i'm very interested to know what it is about the last 10 to 15 minutes you didn't like because for me the last 10 to 15 minutes basically summarize the totality of what the whole film is supposed to be about so i'm interested to know what it is you didn't like about it no i didn't i just i it came out of left field for me and normally i'm very into endings that catch me off guard and and all that stuff and seeing something coming yes yeah but you normally have to build it up this world for me built up realism and then you took it into supernatural there in the last 10 minutes and you didn't build that outside of there was one time in the beginning where they obviously earphone was talking about a curse yes and and that whole thing yes i get that but the rest of the time i was getting realism everything was in reality it was and then it's just flipped on a dime and i i i understand what the message was i get it it's just for me it was out of left field and i would have preferred it didn't diss i mean i did i was ready to put this in like hella row for me and that that jumped it down for me because of the ending oh it i absolutely i didn't hate the film obviously i love the first hour 40 no as it as it um as it got into that part of the story and i realized what they were doing i started making a list while i was watching and i'm just putting down the films that i love the most and would recommend the most in recent times we've seen them and it was you know parched hella row and this yeah i put this in that same place i that aspect of it um it it didn't doesn't bother me and because um of because of the point of the story which i think i know the point of the story if i don't it's okay if this is my takeaway i think but i think i know the point of the story and it's um but i i like it's nice to see a film that's representational of something of the supernatural by not differentiating between the invisible realm the physical realm in any way and just letting them blend with one another because the impact of the two on one another most especially the invisible end of the physical realm is more poignant my personal belief than most people give it credit to and if it's not that definitively where there is a recognition of it just say scientifically got it is that way in the way people think and behave the things that they believe become that which they actually do so for me that's the paragraph i wrote was the moral of the story and it's related to this ending so here's here's what i thought the ending the last 10 to 15 minutes and especially the ending which is also kind of revealed in the title because there's a reason they added the tale of a lonely ghost yeah so here's here's my paragraph i believe umber saying that's irfan's character represents the generational spirit of patriarchal chauvinism a male-centric bigotry that considers the only worth found in feminism to be those that only serve the needs of the man's ego and to achieve the ultimate goal of the deification of the masculine self this generational spirit is so blind to its own warped moral construct and deviant desire to find its eternal moon that it will literally destroy anything and everything that gets in the way of it acquiring what it needs to fill its insatiable desire to elevate the male ego above all in an ironic twist of fate in its pursuit to achieve masculine dominance in its lineage and legacy it unwittingly destroys its own lineage and legacy because in the end nothing remains wife dead daughter dead daughter-in-law dead another daughter gone mad and the generational home with all its belongings burned to the ground with nothing remaining except of all things a mirror the perfect object for the insatiable ego and i think the actual physical man that existed and the ghost that comes is this was the actual person yeah but then the ghost is that which was possessing him which is this generational spirit within male chauvinism that is not satiated and does not stop in search of you know my moon so to see that transition where he was just there and then interacting for me i thought underscored the fact that this interweaving of this generational spirit is so permanent in the physical realm that it's it's inseparable gotcha does that make sense oh no i totally totally get that i think that's perfect explanation of what they were going for i just it took i i think they could have made that message by keeping it in the real uh i loved it um but i don't another little thing i noticed and this is i'm sure there's a bunch of stuff we missed because we aren't indian we aren't uh punjabi and even but i did do some research on something because i knew we're being told this for some reason the festival of lori that's that's that's central apparently that that central theme of the lori songs yeah is this legend of somebody named dula bati who lived in punjab and was regarded as a hero for rescuing hindu girls from being forcibly taken to be sold into the slave market and as a part of those celebrations it was common and traditional for the children to go around homes singing those songs uh and especially the youngsters would go and the girls would go and sing so i remember there was a moment where till the thomas character what's the kanwar as a little boy girl was watching the other girls go to go sing the lori songs yeah and you could see the i loved that uh aspect of the character which made me think of a whole other aspect of this that wasn't intentionally dominant but is still there of anybody who was born male but inside feels female and what that must be like to see what the girls are doing yeah and inside you're like i want to be doing that but i'm being told i can't yeah it touched on that yeah me too absolutely yeah i get i'm getting the emotional yeah i love and and i'm glad you you like the ending so we have this juxtaposition really yes the moon at the end did you notice the moon about me come on uh like i said i really enjoyed this film it's 100 worth of watch it's really sad that it wasn't as accepted as it was or as watched as it could have been there's one other thing it's not really the film's fault but it was frustrating to me uh they blurred out nudity oh i'm glad you brought that up twice it was and i found out is because this was given a ua something okay and whatever it's not the film's fault but they they had to give it a ua and so they had to blur it out it's just really frustrating really frustrating because that takes away making the actors do it in the first place so in the vulnerability tillatoma and the other i think it was tisca it happened twice i think it was tisca at the beginning but the great scene tillatoma it was barely Shakespearean it was tisca's bath yeah and it was really from behind yeah which was dumb because also they showed i was from the back i was when she starts yelling at her father ghost yeah right and she starts saying what she's saying i know she's having a milk down and no one else can see him but she can and i see her go to take this off everything inside of me was give me surcy yeah walking the shame walk give me full frontal right now because that would be what we need to see right now to be completely have the vulnerability of our core and the vulnerability of this woman and the fact that she is fully embracing who she is and what he did to her and saying i am this yep and the blurriness of it it takes away just pulled me away from what could have been yeah one of the most powerful cinematic moments i've seen in a long long time it is extremely frustrating really really deeply aggravating you shouldn't even have the scene if you're gonna do that and it's not the filmmaker's fault no we get it we but it's just extremely frustrating because that's it was a very hamlet moment and she because she was she was putting her all into the scene and she i believe like uh radica opte and and and parched or no was it parched it was parched it was parched was extremely vulnerable in that moment but you took away the whole meaning for it yeah doing that and it is not just shoot it from the neck up if you're gonna do that yeah i gotta tell you and what i'm about to say is not a uh it's not a chastisement of of the director in any way okay i can just tell you a frustration of censorship it's the frustration of censorship and i can tell you that if this was something i had wanted to create as a director and a writer i don't know what i would have done i wouldn't have released because i don't know that i would have i don't know that i would have released it and i would have had just a director's cut available for anybody who wants to see it because for me the the pinnacle moment that means the most to that is that moment and anybody who thinks that a moment like that where we would see her naked is either voyeuristic or pornographic has a demented and warped opinion of the human body and sexuality because that is not a sexual moment like any stretch of the imagination yep and the human body is actually a pretty beautiful thing yeah so if you go into museums you'll see a lot of nudes painted and sculpted but in a film what and this film has nothing that would attract a young audience to watch it so it's not like a kid should accidentally stumble upon this film it's an adult film yep with adult content yep it was yeah really frustrating i don't care that boobies make you uncomfortable don't watch a film if the film makes you uncomfortable don't watch it yeah it makes you uncomfortable fine i've heard this argument it's like if we're watching a film with our parents and boob show i don't give two shits does your mom have boobs she does and it's fine if that's what you guys do then don't watch films where people show don't censor my films because they make you uncomfortable exactly just don't watch them a rating system is good right censorship is but sorry it's not about this film censorship is one of the things that gets me so fired up because it really is pisses me the fuck off but this film is great anyways once again i really hope you're not here if you haven't seen the film but if you haven't please go watch it it's definitely worth your time uh and let us know what's from all these film from irfan tisca telutama and rasika oh one real quick quick thing when she shoots him oh yeah i was so mad because you want to see air fun hey i was like you do this to us again the last year fun movie i saw middle of the film he's gone i was so pissed but thankfully he's not gone yeah so uh let us know what's your next Punjabi film we need to air fun air fun and telutama and rasika and let us know uh down below