 Shall I answer these questions first, or maybe I will take the questions from the center. Shall I write down the questions as they are coming from the center. Remote centers question, so that I can answer them together. Is it on? Is it on? Is it on? Is it on my life? Welcome back. To start the session we have roughly 40 minutes. So the way it will be good to structure this session is that we will first hear questions from the remote centers. We already have a list of questions that we got from the YouTube channel and from the participants here. So let us first hear the questions from the remote centers. I will not answer them immediately, we are just noting them down and then we will answer all of them together. So I would request remote centers to sort of indicate if they have any questions. Hello, good afternoon sir. Hello, good afternoon sir. Good afternoon. Okay, yeah go ahead. Is it audible sir? Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead. Hello. Yeah we can hear you. Hello, good morning sir. Go ahead, go ahead. Hello, good morning sir. Yeah. Last year. Some of the parents had forgotten to mention the number of transfers. Online it was zero. Later they came and told that their transfers were four and so on. Some representations were there. So anything can be done about that. Okay, we will address this if there are other questions. Any other question? Kochin, Kochin you are not audible. We cannot hear you. Maybe the microphone is not on. Please check your microphone. No, you are not audible. Okay, so whoever is not audible on the online, please type your questions on chat because of the time constraint we will move to all the colleges one by one. So please be ready with the mics and just start asking your question. I am Kavitesh, Kavitesh Bhardwaj from KV2 Kota. I have a question. What you said that you have to correct the school in the child's data. So first we have to convert it to OK or we have to upload the template first. Okay, I will tell you all the questions together. He is noting down the questions. Sir, one more question from the centre. Hello. Good morning sir. This is Sandeep from Kinde Vidhale, number one, Kota. The question is the date of the sponsoring agency. So if they do not want to accommodate in class 1, what will be their provision? After the last date. After March 19. What will be the admission in the sponsoring agency Kota? If they do not want to give class 1 admission, what will be their last date? What will be the provision after March 19 in class 1? Okay, we have noted it. We will try to address that. University College of Engineering, Tamil Nadu. Good afternoon sir. This is Sandeep Kumar. Go ahead, we can hear. The parents will be applying on 19th also. So we need to verify those applications. Is it possible to give the parents to correct their application on 20th and 21st? Is there any correction which we inform to the appareller? Those who are applying on 19th, they may not get a chance to correct their application. Okay, so I will address this question. I had a discussion with Dr. Khawar about this. Please post your question on chat, you are not audible. We cannot hear you. Please post your question on chat. Hello sir. Good afternoon. Why? Sir, when we are verifying the applications of these students, when documents are not okay, for example birth certificate or cash certificate, we are giving the message either telephonically or email or SMS. But why can't the message go to parent direct to the registered mobile number from the center itself? When I am saying that these documents of this particular ID are not correct, why can't message reach to the parent directly? Okay, we will address that question. So these are KVS policies. This has got nothing to do with the portal. So, okay. We will address that question. Yeah. Silicon Institute, Kudra. Sorry, sir. Yes, sir. This is Manasanjan Sahu from Kindri Vidyalaya, number four of nature. Silicon Institute of Technology of nature. Yeah, please ask a question quickly. Suppose somebody has posted the document not in proper order. And we are making the document not okay during verification. And that might have happened that one of the document is not okay, but it has been uploaded in some another heading. Like, cash certificate has been uploaded in the residence group. But we are making that that cost is not okay. But that residence group is okay. And the category is category one. So we cannot deny for category one. For all those cases, how to deal? Okay. We will address that question. Yeah, PSCMR College. No, sir. You are not audible. Please post your question on chat. KKWag Institute, Maharashtra. Please be ready with the mics. You are not audible, sir. Please check your mic. We cannot hear you. We cannot hear you. Please post your question in chat. On the chat window, there is a chat window in a view. Please post your question. Because of the time constraint, we are just going it in a fast. Those who are not audible, please post your question on chat. Sastra University. Are there any questions? Sastra University. 1140. You are audible. Please go ahead. You are not clearly audible, sir. Please post your question on chat. You are not clearly audible. Amal Jyothi. Hello. Go ahead. Audible? Yes. This is regarding parents working in two different establishments. One in the government and one in the state government. And when they are giving for two different schools options, can they upload two different service certificates? Yes, they can. Number one. Second question. Okay, go ahead. Second question. For RT lottery, can there be a demonstration? You told once, please explain it once again. Can there be a demonstration of RT lottery to the parents who are coming? Thank you. Okay. Yes, so let me quickly answer some of the questions and then again we'll come back. We have a bit of a time constraint here. So let me answer some of the questions that we have collected from the YouTube channel, from the participants here, and from some of the remote centers that we had right now. I'll try to quickly go through those. So the criteria for document verification, there was a question that how does one decide whether a document is okay or not okay. This is completely a KVS policy. IIT Bombay has no clue which document is okay for your birth, you know, proof of birth, birth date, or which document is okay for caste certificate. So please contact KVS to figure out which document is okay and which document is not okay. We have no idea which document is accepted and which is not. Then there was a question about special provision, chairmen's quota, sponsoring agency quota, admission process. So the portal, as you know, we decided after discussion with KVS, so everybody needs to apply on the portal so that they have an enrollment ID. But for those who want admission under the special provisions, there are 20 different categories of special provisions. They need to use that enrollment ID and then approach that school directly. So the special provision admission is not administered through the portal, but they can get an enrollment ID by registering on the portal, submitting their application. So the school can view that application when they go to the school. So all the 20 categories of special provisions has to be handled by the school separately. This was as per discussion with KVS. The third one is process for single girl child application, admission. So as I, from what I understand is that there is a lottery to be done for single girl child, but if it is not to be done, this is a KVS policy. I mean, we were told at one time that it has to be done, but if it is not to be done, so essentially, yes. So essentially, you can select the SGC category and it will show all the single girl child applicants that have applied and who have not been provided provisional admission so far. And then if that number is already less than the number of seats that you have for single girl child, just go and offer to all of them. Of course, there is the case of twins and so if in a particular application under the additional supporting documents, if it is indicated that this application is for a twin and the twin's application number is this, then you have to apply it to both of them. That is as per KVS policy. So if a lottery is needed in some schools where maybe the number of single girl child applicants is much more than or if a lottery is not needed, I do not know how they are sorted. For example, you can sort that list based on service category, based on cast, based on number of transfers, any of the criteria. As per KVS policy, you go down that list and offer admission if it has to be done by lottery, we will keep that provision for doing the lottery. So all the people who will be in the single girl child category, you can put out a lottery list and then you can decide from there. But if it is not to be done by lottery, if it is to be done by service category, number of transfers, you have the filters, choose single girl child category, service category one, sort by number of transfers, just offer them admission. And as I said, anybody who has been offered provisional admission in an earlier category like an RTE category or SC or ST, their names will not show up in any of the subsequent categories when you are trying to offer admission. Then is RT, why RT is compulsory for SC, ST, OBC? So this is what the KVS guidelines say that every SC, ST, OBC, NCL applicant is eligible for RT. So I do not have an answer why that is the case. This is as per KVS policy and distance measurement. So as I have explained that until March 26, so basically parents can indicate change in distance until March 19. So when you are sorting those lists, you will see distances that are greater than 5 or 8 as the case may be. After that, the school gets an opportunity to correct those distances based on verification of the actual distance declaration residence proof. But on March 26, when the RT lottery happens, every case, every applicant whose distance is greater than the specified distance for that school will automatically get filtered out. They will not appear in the RT lottery. So up to 19th, parents can update that distance after 19th, up to 24th, I think 24th, 22nd, the school can update that. After that, if whatever thing is there, whatever distance is entered, we are going to use that distance for doing the RT lottery. Anybody whose distance is greater than 5 kilometer for urban and 8 kilometer for rural will not appear in the RT lottery. So if you are correcting the distance in that spreadsheet, please be careful. Write the correct distance there based on document verification. There is a question about automatic change in status by system. So the cases that had come to us, we have actually checked and it was it was not automatically checked. The parent uploaded the document and the school updated it after that, strictly after that. And so that is why the status is updated. But if you are having any issues, please contact your regional office with the specific enrollment IDs and we will check here what is, this should not happen. I mean if a parent uploads a document or updates an application, it shows as unverified. But if the school marks it as ok or not ok, remember the school is seeing the applications as of the previous midnight. So if the parent has updated the application, that day you are not going to see it until the next day morning. So if the school marks something as docs ok or docs not ok. And if the parent has not updated the application then that same status will show up next day. But if the parent has updated the application, it will show up as unverified the next day. But if you are having specific problems, I mean we have not seen any such problem. The cases that were referred to as we have checked, they were ok. But if you are having specific problems, please with the application enrollment ID send it to the regional office and then we will take it and check that. Which application is going to be considered for admission process? Docs ok, docs not ok, invalid. So as I have said, after March 22nd, every application should be either invalid or docs ok after the changes that you have indicated. The school can indicate changes, but the school is indicating changes means that is as per the documents uploaded. Otherwise why is the school indicating changes? So after you have indicated the changes, the application must have docs ok or it must be an invalid application. So the admission process will only be offered for this. In fact we can, I mean you can go to the portal and you can check whether there are any other applications in any other category. Everything should be either docs ok or invalid. If you click on unverified and some application still shows up, you need to do something about it. If it shows up under docs not ok, you need to do something about it. It was there in the flow chart. We will of course share that presentation with everybody. So you can see in the flow chart. So every docs not ok application must be either converted to invalid or it must be converted to docs ok with changes made by the school. Because these are the only two final statuses of the application. Either it is an invalid application or it is ok for considering maybe with changes made by the school ok. Then there was a question about the transfer count needs to be updated for correction in the spreadsheet. So currently we are uploading the transfer count based on how many entries are there in the table and anything which doesn't satisfy KVS criteria in terms of. So KVS criteria is at least 6 months within the last 7 years and at least 20 kilometers. So if you if a parent tries to upload a transfer detail which is not within the last 7 years it doesn't get saved. If a parent tries to upload something which is less than 6 months it doesn't get saved. The distance we have still shown it because once again the actual distance can be verified only based on the document. Actually calculate the final number of transfers you know after March 22nd sorry after March 24th whenever when the school updates come if the distance is greater than 20 then also it will not show up on the list of. So now if you are saying that should the school be provided a facility to update the number of transfers directly in the spreadsheet without it being entered in the in the transfer details so that it is not enabled right now and we would request that it should be there if there are 5 transfers there should be 5 entries so that we can actually check whether those are before 2015 whatever before the 7 years whether they are at least 6 months or not because this entire check is automated you don't need to do this check whether it is at least 7 years whether it is at least 6 months and right now it shows things which are 20 km but finally we will filter out those also pardon me yeah so whatever so we are looking at the date of the transfer if it is before 1st April 2011 I think because as on 31st March yes so any transfer which happened in this interval is counted if the duration of the stay is more than 6 months or more than 6 months and currently it shows cases even where the distance is less than 20 km because the parent can update but finally when we show it even that will be removed because the date we can easily figure out once they enter the date we know whether it was before 1st April 2011 or whether it was 6 months or not we can easily figure out the distance actually requires verification from a document so we would strongly recommend that just to make sure that there are no errors in this contact the parents ask them to enter the transfer details directly because all these checks can then be done automatically okay now there is one more question here that if sufficient number of applications have not been registered from candidates who belong to ST category a separate notification is to be given as per admission guidelines whether candidates have to apply online or offline this I think is a policy decision after 19th we will disable anybody from uploading applications if you have not received sufficiently many ST or ST applications and if you want to put out another notice so I think this has to be handled offline currently because our portal will stop everything for parents on because otherwise how do we know whether somebody who is trying to upload is already trying to manipulate the system or not so this has to be handled offline so a candidate belongs to SCST OBC non-criminal layer by default the candidate comes under RT when filling up his application distance is beyond 5 kilometers so this I have already answered is that currently up to March 19th parent can update after that teachers can update but in the final RT lottery everything whose distance is finally more than threshold specified will be disqualified is the randomization available for all categories it is only for RT categories so it is available only for RT category and we have been told for the last category and STC it is not available for the other categories because in the other categories I think it goes by number of transfers and I do not know after that what other criteria are there so it is available currently only for RT last category and the STC STC is not necessarily please do not use it or we can disable it if we get a clear instruction from KBS that STC is not needed but these are the three things that we have heard from STC some of the requests that we got from the regional centers can the number of transfers be changed by schools so as I said that it is important that all these transfers are checked for their date and duration so please contact the parents ask them to upload this so that all these checks happen automatically so currently we are not providing number of transfers in the spreadsheet to be changed by the school docs okay before should the documents be okay before uploading the spreadsheet so this is the school has to decide every application should either come in invalid category finally or docs okay category if you are making some change in the spreadsheet presumably it is because based on the documents you are making some changes so once those changes come into effect the documents are okay so you mark it as docs okay this is explained in the flowchart also sponsoring agency quota so this I have already said all the extra things are they have to apply get the application ID all the details should be there but this has to be administered separately all the special provisions can parents correct after March 19th we have had a discussion with KBS headquarters and Dr. Kauri has specifically instructed that parents will not be able to update after March 19th docs not okay can message go from the portal so sms's in order to send sms's we need to enroll with an sms service provider and this was discussed and it was found out that KBS will not do it this year the school can inform you know as of a particular dates basically the docs okay are depends on the school where the school marks it as docs okay docs okay or docs not okay so it is the school which has the entire contact detail which can basically contact the parent and say that whether docs are okay or docs are not okay I mean the email address is particularly problematic because I think in a lot of cases people are going to cyber cafes and they are giving email addresses some very generic email addresses I mean some email addresses that we saw for applications that were forwarded to us it clearly says cyber cafe cyber cafe someplace at gmail.com so I think sending email it is not clear whether it is actually reaching the parent or not I think calling on the mobile is the sure shot way of reaching there but as per our discussion with KBS the automated sms service was not approved so the schools will have to contact the parents docs not in proper order so you know as long as the documents are okay whether they are in proper order or not please go and mark it as docs okay because while the document is being uploaded we do not even know what document is considered okay for KBS for different things so do not need to worry about the order as long as all the right documents are there please mark it as docs okay parents in central and state governments can they of course for each school you can upload a separate service certificate so the service certificate if you are indicating all but the last category so in the last category there is no certificate need necessary but in all but the last category in fact the service certificate is mandatory and it is a separate service certificate for each school that you are applying so if one parent is in central government and other is in state government and they want to apply in two different schools under two different categories this should upload in fact if they do not upload that application cannot be submitted. It is a mandatory document for each school. RT demo to parents. So, as I have already said in my presentation that we will make an RT demo available if you think that it should be given to the parents please do that. But the RT button is going to be the actual RT button is going to be available for you only once. So, you please show the demo to the parents, please show the pre shuffled sequence everything. Make sure that all parents are happy with it and once you press that button that button is going to disappear after that. So, after that you will only get the shuffled sequence which will also show in the previous list what was their sequence number and the new list what is their sequence number. But this will be available only once per school. So, please do all the demos we can make a demo available. In fact, this has been requested by KBS and we will make the demo available. So, you can show how the demo it works. Now, let me answer a couple of other questions I receive that if a candidate's documents are made docs not under one head like RT or SGC and all the other service heads also it is featured as docs not what is the solution to the problem. So, if a candidate's documents are made docs not under one head like RT or SG and on all the other heads also it is featured as docs not. So, what is the solution to the problem? You have to contact the parent within March 19th ask them to make it ok and if they are not able to upload it as ok then you have to indicate in the spreadsheet that based on the documents uploaded what is the service category does it fall under SGC does it fall under SCST whatever. So, what we are saying is that in any case they have to check all the documents. So, they do not need to worry about which document was uploaded under what. So, they can just indicate which document was wrongly uploaded. So, many are there. So, we have to indicate in the spreadsheet which you are providing that is excel sheet all those things cost certificate not ok that is a big problem. So, because once we make the docs not ok. Yes. For any of the head RT. Yes. Yes. For that person that candidate in category one also it is shown as docs not. No, but whether the cost certificate is ok or not. That we are there we have seen. So, you have to indicate it that this is not in the correct cost category. No, that is ok. So, but in category one also automatically it is shown category means docs not ok. Sir, can I say that too? Yes. Please use the mic so that others can. Suppose somebody has uploaded SC certificate and they falls under category. Suppose SC means you are considering RT when you are not considered at least the preference should be given to the candidate at least in category one. In category one also it is showing docs not ok that is what she wants to convey. So, for the final admission everything has to be docs ok. There are no docs not ok case for the final admission. No, no, doc is not ok for RT is accepted. No, no for every category if how can you give admission to somebody whose docs is not ok. I have my transfer I am a centre count employee I have transfer. Yes. But I wrongly uploaded some SC certificate which is not valid. Yes. So, you do not give me RT, but you have to give me under category one. Yes. So, the school indicates in the spreadsheet that the cast certificate is not ok. And she is saying including category one also it is docs not ok is coming that option should not be there that she wants to convey. No, no, no, but if the docs are not ok it means that some document is not ok. And that is what she is telling. Ok. So, please allow me to explain. I think this is this problem is already solved in the portal. So, actually can I go back to the presentation? Oh, I think I have to. Oh, no, it is there. Yeah. So, I have already mentioned it here. So, this is from March 20th to March 22nd. Every application will either be marked invalid or docs ok after corrections. So, if you feel that the cast certificate is not ok, you enter in that spreadsheet that for this applicant the cast is such and such, but if you feel that the service category is ok, keep that service category blank. That is what she wants. So, in the spreadsheet I have shown this here. So, in the spreadsheet I need not fill up every column. I can only fill up the columns, I need only fill up the columns. So, for example, in the case I will have to enter the enrollment ID, I have to say correct cast category is general and rest everything is blank. Because then the service category is not the spreadsheet. So, this is a snapshot of that excel sheet. Enrollment ID, correct single girl child status, correct cast category, correct. This is a snapshot of that excel sheet that has been. I can show the excel sheet. This is the excel sheet. So, if the cast category certificate is not ok, you have to indicate what the cast should be considered. So, an entry has to be made in this table that it should be considered under general. If the service category and whatever other things are then do not enter anything. You do not need to enter anything for those columns. I mean just look at this. So, let me give a demonstration of, can we go on the spreadsheet? Team viewer. Team viewer is close to my end. I have to give what? I have to 4, 4. Yeah. So, upload corrections. So, this has logged me out again. So, this is just some dummy thing. So, when you go to upload corrections, you get the template. So, let me open it and let me edit this document. So, suppose there is a particular applicant whose only problem is the cast certificate, but then we have to indicate what should be the new cast category for that. So, you know 1, 2, 3, 4, whatever I put the enrollment thing. I keep this, I keep this blank because this is fine. That cast category I say general and everything else is fine. And I just upload the thing with this. So, any column which is left blank, it means whatever was there in the original application is fine. There is no problem with that. Any column which is not blank, it means whatever was there in the original application has a problem and this should be the new value. That is all that we are doing. So, in the specific case that you mentioned, if it is only the cast certificate which is a problem, you just have to indicate this. The service category stays as is, whatever they have indicated. I belong to a single cast. I am a single girl child. So, because I belong to single cast, I should get an option of RTE. You have randomized list, my name is not appearing. Then SC, my name appears. Suppose if you give me an option, single girl child also. If I get in single girl child, I have an advantage of fees consistent. Now, what is happening? Once I got an SC, my name is not figuring in single girl child. Yes, once you have got an admission, why should it appear? No, under the principle of natural justice, objection will be raised to the parent. What is the? Because in RTA, in SC or in single kid everywhere, you have to give option. You will choose under which category you will join. Once I got SC, you are not giving me option of single girl child. No, you do single girl child first. What is the problem? We have not determined the order because it is still not clear to us. What is the exact order? So, you do, if you want to do first single girl child before RTA, you can do that. There is a single girl child. Yes. So, by mistake if you do, then you have to pay. So, we are not determining the sequence in which you are giving admission. So, you can do RTE, then single girl child or first single girl child then RTE. So, that is up to you. So, we have very short time. So, we can maybe take a few more questions. But before we do that, I would like to sincerely acknowledge the efforts of two of my colleagues. Dr. Snehalatha and Madhuri, I do not know where they are. They are there, if the camera can be found there. So, they have been the creators of the spoken tutorial just like Aruna, where is the camera? So, all of the spoken tutorials in the 19 languages and for parents, the original, the editing, scripting, it actually takes a lot of effort to prepare a video at that quality. And the teachers one also they have done, the English one. So, they are the faces behind all that effort. So, thanks a lot. So, I would now, we have around 5 minutes left I think. So, if there are some more centers which want to ask questions, I could. Yeah. So, maybe KVS Delhi, if there are more questions. Yes, we can hear you, Dr. Hari. Yes, I can hear you clearly, loud and clear. Yeah. So, after I think interaction with you, most of the doubts have been clear. I would like to make certain points here. Yes. Of the understanding of this Pula bottle also be more easy. First thing that I think, my dear friends, you have to understand that this is not a new thing. We haven't been applying that. So, yeah, actually, you can use either the laptop or the mic. Yeah. Actually, can you use the laptop mic that is, that seems to be clear. Sir, the laptop mic is only clear to all the centers. The other mic that you are using is not clear to all the centers. Right. So, one thing that we all have to understand that before these two years, this year and last year, we had animations offline only. We have, for any problem, for any query, please ask this question. If you are applying for an offline hard copy, how do we deal with it? How do we help our parents? When did we take our opinion or our decision as a principle? The same principle will be there online. You cannot say it wrong without telling your parents. You cannot reject without keeping the proof of the document. Even in the hard copy, the categories were exclusive. Even today, if someone is applying for an RTA category, then it may not be possible to apply for a category 5. So, if someone is applying for a single girl in the form of a girl child, then they will go for a category 5. It is more important for a single girl for a single girl. There have been many such problems. If we did not give anyone an S.C. admission, then their name would have been removed from our system. If they did not get an S.C. admission, then their category would have been removed. There is no fixed rule in this. Because if you think that category 1 is more beneficial than category 3, then this is not correct. To take a sponsor seat, category 3 can go higher than category 1. That is why we have to keep these things in mind. What should be our fundamentals? Give more and more advantage to people. And whenever we are bringing this advantage to parents, then for that... Yes, tell me, Kauri ji. Please continue. We can hear you continue. Yes, our voice stopped. That we have to show. If you think that there is no advantage to anyone, then this is not correct. Sometimes if you give someone an advantage, then it can happen because of someone else's advantage. So you will always have to be cautious. That Pratik ji has left your entire spreadsheet, your entire interventions open. He is giving you an offline amount of freedom. But you must remember that admission in charge and principal are responsible to keep this admission fair. That is why you must ensure that you take any decision. If you are doing category 1 and category 5, then you have this advantage. And the advantage is logic. You have to keep this cardinal principles in mind and then you will work ahead. We have some questions from Subhati ji. Yes, tell me. I want to keep it in front of you. In some cases we have seen that apart from category 1 and 5, there is a provision of a category 0. If parents fill in 0, then they are getting 0. Zero? Yes, instead of category 0. This should not happen. If you can send their enrollment ID, then we will check. I am taking it from them. This is about Keshapuram. It is about Abhikash Puri. I will take it from them and tell them. It should not happen. Zero should not happen. No, if you send their enrollment ID, then we will check. You are sending it. You have addressed the second question. If category 1 has applied, but the service certification is of category 3, then what do we have to do? You have told them that you can guide it. After that you will give it a notice in category 3. When it is not ok, then tell them that your service certificate is not of category 1. Then you will communicate it is not ok. You can upload that certificate. It is indicated in the spreadsheet. Parents will know that my child's admission cannot be in category 1. But it can be in category 3. That is why after the lottery, you have asked them once again that you will give them a demo file. And once you call these parents, you will definitely show them a demo. So the demo will be random and arbitrary. You will not have any connection with the database. And that is why it is happening. That is why you can take out the lottery so many times. You had this provision that you took out the lottery once and announced it. See, you are taking out the lottery. This is a demo lottery. And parents used to see it and share the results. Although you did not do it. Next time you would take out the fresh lottery. This lottery is final. What used to happen is that parents were very hard-burning. In my first one, my name was on the 5th number. And in the real one, my number was on the 20th. This was a problem. That is why IIT has announced it this time. Once the button is pressed, it is not the next time. And the second thing is that when you take out the lottery, all the applicants who are more than the seats, all the applicants who are eligible, take out one of them in the lottery category. You have just given your 10th admission. But if you do not get the 10th term, then the next 11, 12, 20 things will go to the same place. Let it go. The second benefit will be that the person who is at the bottom will start doing his second attempt. This change cannot happen. We will try a lot of things. I have also brought a question about the sponsoring seat. If you pay attention to the sponsoring seat, whatever seats are over and above, they are not a part of the online. Over and above seats are not a part of the online. But the 40 limit admission seat, you have to do it together. If you have 5 seats for the sponsor in class 1, then you have to keep 5 seats separate and do the processing. The sponsoring seat will decide those who have 5 seats. What happens is that there is not that much of a problem in the project. But there will be a problem in the civil sector school. Because in one place, 5 seats will come in the first 5 seats. And whoever decides to sponsor from 6 to 21, will reach the category 3. So if you have 40 seats, if you have 10 seats, if you have 5 seats for the sponsor, then you have 15 seats. And you are doing everything in 25 seats. That is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, everything in 25 seats. So 5 sponsor seats, the sponsor decides. We decide. But the sponsor should decide. It should be an employee. Many times in the list, some ad hoc contractual employees or those who work in the firm, in the first category 5, they are also shown in the sponsor seat. They should reject the Admission Committee. And the sponsoring authority, that is your chairman, will have to tell that this is not possible in this class. What this means is that the sponsor seats are separated from the Admission's online system. Because the sponsor seat doesn't decide the parent. The sponsor seat decides the chairman. The sponsor decides. There is a little difference. Next was the question, why didn't the parent go to SMS from the portal? Last year this system was there. This time this is not a system. Now we have read the SMS to the MP quota. And we saw that it was Rs.1500. It was not possible to give 10,000 SMS. This is very low. Take such a system to your own school and kill that quota. There is no right to remove the DND barrier. Do not disturb. That means if you write that we don't have any commercial use of SMS but we have to benefit our parents and educate them. So you have to try to remove that DND barrier. I will request the school that they take such an SMS package and do SMS. Because it is better to approach the mobile number. As Superdiji said, e-mail will not reach the parent in many cases. Like he e-mailed the cyber café. Sometimes he e-mailed with friends or with someone else. Next was the multiple application. Multiple application means that the husband is in category 1 and the wife is in category 4. Suppose, a husband applied to a school where he showed category 1 and applied to another school where he showed category 4 and the wife is in the current form. Superdiji, request that is it right to apply to a school where category 1 is applied and only category 1 is applied. No, no. In one school, category 1 in one school, category 2 in third school, category 5 the category of every school will have to be selected separately and for every school the service will have to be selected separately. If they selected only one and applied three places then only one school will be selected. No, no. The indication of the service category comes in the choice of schools. When you are choosing a school then what is the service category and what is the service category. When the second school is choosing then it asks which category you have to apply for this school. So, with the option of every school separately the service category is asked and it is compulsory to enter. And if the last category children of any other category leave it and anything else then for every school the service certificate has to be selected. It can be that the same service category is in both schools because only one school has documents of the same school. I mean, one applicant has three schools. Is there a problem? Yes, there is. Last year we had a problem that in project schools there is a specific service that the parents in project schools are not considered to be category one. Those who have retired and their children are also getting this service. And if they become grandparent then they are also getting this service. And it is in that category in the form of ABC. It was very difficult to do it online that such schools are less in the whole country. So I think that the first category one i.e. the sponsor quota and because of the sponsor quota category one is in project. They are sorting that one place and if their documents means the whole school can fill them then the category 2 will come. So if they come but if they cannot then there are more applications for such projects that parents and grandparents have also retired then they can fill all the cases. Their address will not be online. We can indicate that it is applied in the grandparent category or in the father-mother category so that you can sort it. Is it serving or retired? That information will only be known from the documents. So where the car will stop because if there is a mismatch in the demand supply then the car will stop. If the car stops then it will do its job by keeping the chairman otherwise he will get married and he cannot go to the category 2 without their admission the chairman cannot go to the category 2 that is why these things will not have to be applied which you have not defined. As far as you have defined it is correct. Sir, being retired you have done. Is it clear sir? So from the portal in the service category 1 we can show the parent-grandparent and the only service category is in the service category 1. From the service category 2 there is a preference which is more serving. So the information of that is not in the portal so that has to be checked by this. So if there are such catches then the local surfer can handle it. At the school level. And after that the category 2 will move. There were many other issues that we have seen. Yes sir. Come. In defence there is a question that if the different defence employee is applying for the admission then how can the category 1 be applied? The parents' category means that the grandparent will get the admission. I don't think this is possible. Yes. That is a special provision. Parambir Chakra is a special provision. No. It is not possible. I have to check it once again. Because you have the rules for father and mother except those project category schools which I mentioned. All civil defence other schools for all admissions only parents service status is required. Grandparent service status has no meaning. Right. So there is no question that if somebody grandparent is in defence he will get into category 1 even when his father or mother is not in defence. Correct. This is not possible. If there is any instance he is bringing. These were the questions. Really it was a very fruitful session. Thank you. Everything is so clear. Sir, we are supporting documents. As per registration code it is easy for us to do verification and time is less consuming. Every document has to be supported. Yes. So it is really a very meaningful exercise that you have done. Because the date is very very close. 19th parents will stop their amendments after 4pm. After that schools will check the documents, check the forms verify and make all these tabulations in your spreadsheet and then be ready for the first list on 26th. Even then if you have any queries we will email to you and talk to you. From the entire KBS team especially from the commissioner and all our academic department division and all our principals and officers of Ritual Officers I really give a hearty thanks to you Superteague Ji, Pathak Sir Mudgalia Sir and your entire team for these types of selfless pain that you have taken. Thank you very much. Thank you. I just want to say a few words. I mean we are also very happy, very privileged to be part of this exercise which actually affects so many lakhs of families. I mean most of us are parents and we know the concerns for getting our children admitted so we are happy to sort of be part of this and we hope that the experience that we gained this year and the experience that you have had this year we can sort of work on it to provide similar facilities in the future also. I also want to sort of thank it is you know a few of our names got mentioned but really this is a big team working and in particular I have had so many fruitful discussions with KVS Regional Office Mumbai you know Srimati Arunabhalla and Narasimhan and our principal over here the teachers over here so with all their feedback only we have been able to do this so our thanks to KVS as well and we hope to you know help KVS in whatever ways we can in the future as well. Thank you. Actually madam would you want to say a few words or okay okay so I think so Prof. Kannan wants to say a few things so I am really happy to know that the program went well I wish we had had more time so that we would have pulled the doubts of people from various centers typically what happens in this program this program is called trained 10,000 teachers program through this Prof. Fatak has been Fatak's team has been conducting training for 10,000 engineering college teachers simultaneously by some experts. Similar thing can be done for school teachers we can set it up and people can come for example physics teachers 9th grade physics teachers 10th grade biology teachers something like that is possible it is also possible to have administration meetings for example all the 1200 principals can come and say that I want to have discussion regarding some policies that you may want to do is I know many former students of Kendri Vidyalay I want to contribute for example my daughter studied in the Kendri Vidyalay IT, so KV is very close to us that is the reason why we are passionate about it so you might say that we want to discuss about parent PTA for example discuss you know monthly meetings weekly meetings so if you have such a network that will be extremely useful without people having to travel even the in-service training you know people having to go losing one month for example teacher goes for one month of training then who teaches their children in the school it is affecting and especially when there is a shortage of teachers it affects them greatly so I think all of these things can be handled through this methodology so I would like to recommend in fact I am going to attend a meeting next week the special secretary school educational literacy has called for a meeting and I am going to be there I am going to propose this because these are the things that can be achieved at a very low cost cost per student, per college per school can be very small you pull the money there is enough money to support the whole activity of course I mentioned things like setting up model server and so on even academic activities that can be mentioned I just want to apologize once again that we have not been able to field questions of teachers who have gone to various centers but this is the first time hopefully we will have many more sessions and we will streamline this lot better and on behalf of IIT Bombay and my own behalf I would like to thank the KV Sankatan officials the not only from Delhi from all the centers and also the principals, teachers and so on who have taken the trouble to come on a Saturday morning to be with us even though we could not answer your questions I hope that you benefited by this interaction and of course I would like to acknowledge I would like to acknowledge the remote centers that have come and I would also want to acknowledge the funding source for this activity this is funded, this activity is funded by this T10KT trained 10,000 teacher program and also Spokane tutorials are funded by the National Mission on Education through ICT MHRD Non-Mantav India so we are grateful to MHRD thank you one other comment we are seeing a lot of questions that have been posted on the chat window by the remote centers so what we would request is we will answer all of those questions we will send back by email so what I would request all regional centers is to take the contact addresses of the persons who have posted those questions and send those to us and if we respond back we know whom we should send the answers to so request to all remote centers please take the email addresses of the applicants who have come of the attendance of the participants who have come there so that we can respond back to the questions we have the remote center ID and we have the questions if we just have the email IDs for all participants at the remote center we will just answer those questions and send them back to everybody I also forgot to mention the Pandit Madan Mohan Malviya national mission on teachers and teaching in fact this is a unique mission that is being chaired by secretaries of both departments of MHRD both secretary department of school education literacy and department of higher education in fact this activity can include school education also so I thought I would acknowledge that it is we are getting funding from that mission also thank you thank you very much sir so that brings us to the official ok thank you good bye and Jai Hind