 All right, man, I'm gonna hit I'm gonna hit live. Oh Actually, we might be live I Guess it it may have started welcome everybody to the live stream. It looks like let me just double-check here That we are live and you can probably let me know in the In the chat. Yes, okay. We are live. That is awesome Basically, I had to run into the house just a second ago to grab a Battery for the light behind me and we got it. So Welcome everyone. Welcome to Carlos and Angie and Jordan and oh my goodness Johnny And can you hear me? That's always a good question. It looks like you can because you're waving. Hello Ronan's here Awesome, Mary Daniel Very cool. Good to see everybody streaming in and Let's see So and let me just look at the back end here Awesome cool. Good to see everybody. Okay, everyone can I can see Very good. All right. Well So I'm going to We're gonna dive in tonight. I'm interviewing my brother and a lot of If you've been watching the the channel for a while now, you know that it's been a little bit of a challenge to figure out the live-streaming where I interview someone so Basically, I'm using a little webcam instead of a nice camera So the quality of the image might be just a little lower, but that's okay. It's the audio that counts and Awesome. Oh my goodness and yes, let's ask right now. Where is everybody from? Oh great It sounds like everybody can hear me and sound is synced and then I'm gonna bring my brother on screen here in a minute Awesome very cool. Welcome everyone Kurt's here Dylan. Okay, so Let's see and yeah, let us know where you're from rainy, New Jersey awesome So all right, I was gonna bring Joseph on screen real quick. This is my brother Joseph They say hello to everyone Joseph. Hey, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah So I live up in or sorry, I live in Denver, but Joseph, where where are you located? I'm up in Carbondale. It's kind of the western slope of Colorado a couple hours from Denver Yeah, and now if everyone in the chat could let us know Can you hear Joseph? Um, is he is he sounding sounding good? Nice Columbus, Indiana's in the house Longmont, Colorado, Cincinnati deep deep south Texas Mexico Raul Joseph we're we're talking international here. Our our coach says nice hat Joseph Hey Nice, okay, so I'm getting messages that everyone can hear you as well. So that's that's good news Okay, so um, I wasn't sure if I was gonna tell this story, but I decided to jump in and so here we go, I'm gonna start with this story and it connects to Joseph and Basically, and let's see so just so you know, I'm figuring out the back end of this live streaming Business as well. So I'll be switching back and forth between my brother and I throughout Because somehow you're supposed to be able to split screen, but I haven't been able to figure that out yet. So basically after college I I took a break from running I was running maybe two to three days a week and Just I thought basically the competitive days were in the in the rear view mirror for me but then my brother reached out to me and basically said Hey, would you like to go run some mountains this summer? Up where we used to grow up where we grew up at in Buna Vista, Colorado And it's this crazy mountain adventure called Nolan's 14 And anyway, just so you know, YouTube, I'm not sure if this Channel this YouTube channel would exist if it wasn't for Joseph So I want to give a shot And I really mean that because I my running the competitive running was kind of in the in the rear view me Like I was still running, but it was just like very Casual it wasn't like what I'm doing now. And so Joseph I just want you to know that the the mountain The mountain the mountain adventure lit the fire again Nice, yeah, I think that's that's pretty cool So, all right And let's do this. So Joseph. Let's um, let's Rewind a little bit. Where did you are? How did you? Yeah, how did you discover running? And when what when was that? I mean, yeah, I kind of a long family story family history. Our parents met through running in Durango, Colorado, and they had a pretty legit crew of runners down there and I think just growing up and hearing about their stories I mean our dad was he was one of the first people to do the rim to rim to rim Grand Canyon run which you know in the last two years or so has gotten a lot of attention and So that's kind of just kind of our history with it. I think watching you run that was Really kind of the main motivation when I was you know coming up in middle school and in high school and whatnot Yeah, yeah No, that's that's a good point. So for everyone out there the the grant my dad went to uh, Fort Lewis in Durango and yeah, it was a A big running crew down there. Um, anyway, so Now when was it in high school probably high school specifically when was it that you thought to yourself? um Wow, I may have found Something that i'm good at here When was when was that do you remember a moment like maybe? freshman year or what yeah uh I would say it's it's actually Or later quite a bit later. Yeah, uh, yeah quite a bit later if I pinpoint a specific moment would probably be um Pride track season junior year. Uh, we won the four by eight my junior year four by eight relay And that just really yeah, I think that motivated me for the next couple years and that was kind of a moment where I um, yeah, really kind of experienced that that high of winning at a high level and um, yeah, that really motivated me and Uh, yeah, I think that's that's kind of the main moment that really sparked it for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and now Okay, I'm here. I'm seeing your messages about the audio. Thank you for that everybody I will yeah, just let us know if you can't hear us, but it sounds like uh, we you can now Now there's a lot of high schoolers that watch the vlog and watch the channel And so could you walk us through your progression of mileage? Um as a high school. Yeah, you could dabble a little bit in middle school as well But like what was your progress progression of volume in high school? um, kind of like what you talked about and that uh, you know kind of Some informal interview that we did, uh, I did pretty low mileage early on in high school like 20 25 miles a week and then um by the time of senior year is probably about 45 miles a week and Um, I really think the the mileage increased, but it was just the intensity that was the main thing intensity of the workouts Um hitting workouts harder and harder throughout high school. I think that was really kind of the main key Going up in mileage happened just kind of naturally, but I didn't really feel a need to force it I didn't feel any pressure to run high mileage or anything and yeah, um, I think everyone's different So figuring out what works for you and um, and then trying to do a little more Sure, sure And so You know everyone for everyone out there watching we grew up in a at 8,000 feet above sea level So you have to take that into consideration with training with the racing um It is different up there even compared to denver which denver's you know a little over 5,000 like that extra 3,000 feet of vertical does make a difference and So Basically, I do want to talk so we'll fast forward kind of through high school to your senior year How did you do your your junior year of cross-country? Uh remind me how you did junior year of cross-country um Junior year of cross-country. I mean, I think I did pretty well. I think I won my first race junior year At in ledville. Okay So It's funny. I kind of it's a little fuzzy trying to think back on it But I think I won my first race junior year. So that was pretty exciting. Yeah, and then um And then at state, I think I was maybe top 10 or so. Yeah So yeah, it was pretty pretty decent and then The winter going uh into track my junior year I think I really that's when I could kind of tell things were starting to happen I was starting to just you know get a little stronger get a little faster And then yeah junior year of track things started to go pretty well. Yeah. Yeah um and then senior year do you remember so I guess actually let's um Toss well, no, let's wait on that. I was going to ask for some of your pr's but Do you remember what we did? So Uh your senior year cross-country state meet um Kind of the strategy going into that race Um, I don't know if I kind of remember it because I was I was helping helping coach a little bit, but um Yeah, do you remember what what we decided on that race for state cross-country? Like if if you know if there's a pack at a mile if there's a pack at two miles If i'm alone at one mile if i'm alone at two miles just kind of It's kind of a you know running it's kind of a chess match And you kind of have to think through the different options that are about to happen And so I think that was really key. We kind of had You know a game plan and basically what I remember is You know I think the first mile or so it was we were going to kind of chill and take it easy not Really break away by any means and then Um like a mile mile and a half it was just kind of put the hammer down and see Who could hang and yeah, um, basically I think a mile mile and a half in there was me and one other guy and then Yeah, just kind of ran the rest of the race by myself and it worked out pretty well But having those different options ahead of time was was really important so um for everyone for all the high schoolers out there watching like, um We we went to the state cross-country course maybe two weeks before three weeks before Or Okay in the season it was kind of We didn't our school didn't get to go to the like the pre-meet or the pre-state meets So I had never seen the course because It was it was up in four Collins for the first time ever. Yeah So I had never seen it. So yeah, it was kind of good to go see it and visualize it a little bit. Yeah So we uh, we previewed the course. So anyway for all the high schoolers out there, maybe coaches too Like I'm a big advocate of At least in for a big cross-state meet like previewing the course if if possible and then um Anyway, basically, I remember it was at one So if you're you know, like 5k is it's a it's a good distance But it's at the same time it is still it's fast like it's short enough that you can Hold that that threshold pretty pretty long. So I remember it was the mile. We basically threw down And uh said all right, let's let's unleash here and see what see what happened So joseph ended up winning the state meet his senior year and so that was awesome, but um One thing it was amazing, but one thing that Is I know that's why I titled this live stream With footlocker because so many are interested in footlocker Um Hey, so so many are interested in footlocker and for those that don't know footlocker joseph Did it start in like the late 70s? Is that sound right? Year or something so yeah, it's been around a while and Um Yeah, it's it's pretty awesome. It was a pretty cool Pretty cool way to finish out a senior year of cross country. Yeah um So basically We um Yeah, so it was it's a it's it's kind of the the big dance for the entire country and um joseph, how did you do at footlocker? I you know, I think I did pretty well. I don't know it was uh quite the experience I So I guess my senior year of cross country in colorado. I went undefeated. I won every race and then uh Went out to footlocker midwest in wisconsin and I think I got eighth um And so I was a little I was really excited just to qualify really just getting top 10 was super exciting Yeah, and then uh at the nationals I ended up in I think I got tenth so You know, I kind of I think I did better than expected fit going eighth at the midwest and then getting Um getting tenth at the nationals. So yeah, yeah, it's an awesome. Yeah, it was an awesome experience. It was uh, It was pretty amazing. I remember It's wild. I mean at the footlocker at footlocker midwest I remember like halfway through the race. I looked over and there was the kid running next to me And he only had one shoe on and we were running through five six inches of snow And I think he I forget his name, but I'd probably recognize it if I looked up the results But I think he ended up getting 12th or so. Oh, he almost qualified still and I mean, so I you know, I mean, I'd barely beat the kid with one shoe So, I mean, it's pretty amazing the talent that That uh That I was able to be around at that. It was it was pretty cool. Yeah Yeah, it was uh, it was definitely pretty cool and um And there's you know, there's a lot of opportunities out there whether it's uh, obviously nike cross and then just the The usatf um cross country like there's a lot of different options out there. Um, all right, so PRs from uh from high school. Let's let's hear five k one mile two mile Now keep in mind every well, okay. Yeah, because I guess you did go to uh, you did go to california So yeah, let's let's hear let's hear some let's hear some of these pr's Yeah, I think I mean, yeah, that's key to had one really good california race Yeah, just keeping in mind We're at elevate. We're at elevation Um, oh no, I think actually something I kind of think is interesting And something for high schoolers to keep in mind. I ran the 200 all the way up to the two mile In high school. I did the four by two a number of times actually I did the 200 More times than the two mile my senior year, which is kind of crazy. Um, but yeah 200 400 800 1600 but yeah, it's I guess maybe that's something that happens only at small schools Um, but yeah, I don't know exactly what might let those times are but I think in the 800 I ran um, I think about 157 and About 420 in the mile and then I ran 904 at arcadia in california in the two mile and um That was probably that was probably my best time. I guess so yeah my school Yeah, yeah, and then what about the 5k but it was at elevation but or no, sorry was Yeah, whoo. Wow. Yeah Yeah, no for sure for sure. So what one thing to one thing to point out is that um One thing to point out is that joseph played basketball all four years of high school and I'm telling you like if you're a high school like that sprinting up and down the basketball court and you were uh, You a point guard or were you a So he was more a point guard and I I was I just kind of played a lot of defense really so Yeah, yeah, yeah But yeah, I think you know something I just thought about too that thinking about arcadia This last year I think 30 High school boys went under nine flat in the two in the two miles So, I mean I would have I think I finished in 904 I think I finished like eighth or something and it's just amazing how many fast kids that are in california 30 kids Going under nine flat and one track me is That's hard for me to even believe that's it's crazy it's um Sorry, so sorry about the audio. I don't know what again This is our first time just so you know So joseph sometimes it's when you're not on screen people can't hear you for some reason So I'm trying to do my best to um seth We can only hear him when we can see him. Yeah, so I'm trying to jump back and forth between Yeah, you might have to pause just for one second. Sorry about that So his pr 904 in the two mile or the yeah 30 no 3200 Yeah, so 904 and then 420 For the mile and then about 1525 but and he was just saying that It's gotten it's like the you know, and I don't know actually at some point It I think it will plateau but compared to when you were racing the depth is just Unbelievable for yeah, I think I saw that too like 30 guys going under Under nine minutes, which is just insane. So Okay. Okay. Good to good to know Okay, cool. That's good. Thank you, Nathan appreciate it I'm just we're gonna leave joseph up for and actually Yeah, so this is uh again, we're just actually you know what let me try No, I'm not gonna mess with it. So all right. So moving on What advice would you give for or what was your experience like with the whole recruiting process and like and like what um, I don't know like what What um, yeah, what advice would you give for The whole recruiting process from high school to college? um, I think they're I think really If you're lucky enough to go some you know, go to a high school that has experience with it and You know find people that have been through the process Coaches and whatnot even if it means Outside of other sports, you know, if you're a runner But you you know, no one's been recruited from your high school for running Maybe you find someone on the football team or whatever and it's uh, yeah, it's kind of a daunting process I think you really have to really understand what you want out of the college experience What you want what your expectations are and Um, yeah, I just seek out feedback. It's it can be a daunting process. It's a little crazy I think that there's um, a lot of excitement around it, but it can also It gets it can get kind of nerve-wracking and stressful too and um, yeah, I think Just find people that you can trust to To really give you what's up because it's I don't know. It's it's it's kind of this back and forth sales process There are ways and um, yeah, I don't know. It's the nc double a is a tricky beast. It's not Yeah, it's not like it's not my favorite entity by any means and I think that there's a lot of issues around it And it's even tougher for runners. Sure. There's such limited resources and limited You know scholarships available. So it's yeah, it's tough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah um, no It is tough. Um, I actually Got to skip that process because I wasn't fast enough in high school So I wasn't um, I wasn't recruited out of high school, but joseph uh joseph was so um And I actually did skip over like one question that I back back to high school real quick is the Like a solid workout that you just like felt like gave you great confidence. Um Going into a big race like what was that kind of that key workout that you really loved? Uh, I think one that really stands out key workout is uh mile repeats before footlocker midwest I actually came down to boulder and uh, I got to do them at low elevation at whatever 5 000 feet and Out at the range and it's just yeah, I mean I can You know, I can vividly picture that workout actually even more so than a lot of races but yeah, I think in that workout I set a new pr in the mile and Uh, it was just basically a race simulation for footlocker midwest and uh, yeah, that was key. Um, I think track wise We did a lot of 200s actually in track and part of that was because the 800 was pretty big for us but the 4 by 8 Uh, yeah, lots of 200s and that was brutal. So I'm just we would do like Uh 6 by 200 8 by 200, you know race pace on a cinder track and Yeah, that's tons of speed from that. So yeah, yeah And I think I think it's yeah good and mix it up And don't be afraid to go fast go short and fast sometimes. It's sure it's gonna get that that speed Sure, sure No, absolutely. I mean, um, I'm kind of dealing with that right now with uh, As I talked about a couple days ago, everyone saw on the vlog with just the The yearning to run up mountains, but trying to get ready for a marathon and trying to figure out how to go fast again. So It's uh, it's a balance now Now, uh, I do want to so just so everyone knows I want to open it up to a q&a here in a minute So get your questions ready and we'll uh, we'll dive into some open q&a, but are you I guess like what is What are you up to now with respect to racing and um, yeah goals for 2019 and uh, just your experience with Uh, if you want to dabble in the uh, the mountain running scene and like just yeah, what's going on now I kind of like you mentioned, you know with no one's 14 kind of Brain you back into running a little bit. I mean that trail running and Basically getting up on the mountains is really what sparked my interest again. It's I think I would say probably 95 of collegiate athletes after college need a break And I definitely needed a break. Yeah So yeah, it took some time explored other things got into rock climbing got into Uh, cycling a little bit, but yeah, I think now I'm still really interested in the trails and trail running I'm Pretty happy to only race a few times a year, but we'll see 2019 and yeah might change that a little bit So yeah, hoping to yeah run some some good mountain races You know around colorado, maybe beyond as well. We've kind of Started dreaming a little bit about some bigger race goals. Uh, sure. We'll see sure sure Um, yeah, well cool Um, and I know we could talk all night. Is there anything else you want to Touch upon with respect to to running at all or or racing or training or anything? Um that we didn't uh Yeah, that we and then we'll let the questions stream in here, but uh, yeah anything else that you'd want to touch upon I mean, I don't I think I don't know. I mean, I don't know if people really want like advice or anything. I remember I can In high in high school. I always told myself that there's always someone else out there training harder There's always someone else, you know out there. You got to think bigger than Your high school your your county whatever it is, you know, your state even got to get motivated Know that there's always going to be someone out there working hard and there's always someone to chase so Yeah, I think it I think running super exciting. It's a you know, it's a global sport as I think you've hit on with this Um with this youtube group and yeah, it's it's super exciting and um Yeah, don't be afraid to Put your eggs in one basket and really go for it. It's you know, mark wetmore would always say like don't be well-rounded like Just like really focus on something and I don't know. It doesn't have to be your whole life But for a little while just really dedicate yourself to something and see what happens and You know, if it's running, I think that's cool. And if it's something else, that's cool, too Yeah, yeah, yeah No, I mean, I think you said don't be well-rounded be one-sided. So yeah Yeah, be like uh lopsided and the one-sided and I don't know it's scary to Really commit, you know 110 to something But I don't know if you do it for a little bit and see how it goes. It's it's pretty exciting and I think you taught me a lot about visualizing. I think that's super important as well Visualizing races visualizing workouts. I mean I on easy days still like visualize races And I think that takes away some of the nerves and I just really get yourself prepared to Turn it well. So yeah visualize and Yeah, self in a moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Uh, all right. So we're gonna let me just gonna I'm just gonna try something here um There we go. Can you guys see that? So Jordan asked, uh, what is your favorite distance to race? Then maybe what would be your favorite training run and what distance? So it's kind of a Two-part question there, but uh, yeah, I'll put you back on screen and what do you think there? Yeah, that's uh That's a good there's a good couple of questions. I think the I mean I feel like the best I think the best distance the distance that I wish I could really race well at is the 5k the 5000 I think that's the best distance I think now though like trail running wise. I really enjoy the 10k and half marathon. I still kind of like shorter stuff um training runs I mean, I think training runs. I would say like 12 to 15 miles I think that's a pretty solid distance for me. I think it's I I kind of often joke. I'm kind of a mylar stuck in a marathoners body I really I really do kind of like short stuff and a lot of my mountain running. I'll go out for You know five or six hours, but it's kind of like a shorter I don't necessarily run hard for five or six hours ever I'll run harder for an hour and a half and then hike or scramble and stuff So yeah, that'll really make sense. But yeah, yeah No, that's good. All right. So I'm gonna add I'm gonna add Daniel here and you guys can basically ask whatever you'd like But joseph, can you see these questions when I put this out? I I I said it's have you thought about Trying to get a golden ticket for western states, which you probably almost just answered that but uh, yeah, I'll let you take it Yeah, no, I think that's I mean, I'm really Not I'm not super interested in ultra running right now and maybe in a couple years, but uh Yeah, I I like shorter stuff. So Yeah, I there's other if I were to do an ultra. I would do something here in colorado probably just something up high at altitude, but Um, yeah, I know western states and that's a pretty cool event from what I've heard And trevor asked if we entered a two-man relay race and I don't think we have really like a actual relay race No, so someday trevor. We'll have to uh, we'll have to do that No, that's actually I feel like that's actually something I'd be more interested in and like just a pure ultra like a stage race I think would be pretty cool like 20 miles a day, you know, like the trans Rockies run if you know about that Uh event trevor. It's that's a cool race. I feel like a stage race would be pretty cool I think I could handle, you know, doing like six days of high mileage or whatever more so than doing like a 100 mile run Yeah, yeah, nice Um, all right, so the questions are coming in uh coming in quick And actually I'm just gonna jump over to youtube to make sure I forgot to mention this But there is a super chat feature just so everybody knows where you're you're Where your comment can be highlighted and I apologize. I hope I'm not missing any here Just one second real quick basically this new software is um Let's see here. Thank you for your patience real quick. Let me just double check here. Make sure we're not missing any All right, so I'm in I'm in youtube now everybody. All right, cool. Just looking at your chats there. That's awesome Okay, so favorite running shoes, uh, joseph. What's your what's your favorite running shoe? Uh, my favorite running shoe Uh to train in is the nikey structure. I've trained in that since college. So yeah, it's by far my favorite shoe Yeah, yeah, yeah nice and um All right, another one who's faster right now from alexis Uh Well, we're gonna find out next uh next saturday. So tune back in exactly so stay tuned on the blog everybody We're racing up. Uh, we're racing up aspen mountain. It's a vertical k race Two and a half miles or three miles two and a half. Uh, yeah, it's half miles. Yeah two and a half miles. So Uh, so that's good. And then Uh high room asked, uh, did you do a lot of trails in high school? Uh, yeah, I did actually quite a bit. Uh, our you know, we grew up at 8 000 feet in the mountains and had a lot of trails Right from our house. So yeah, probably Two or three times a week on the trail. So definitely standing on the dirt as much as possible That was kind of a big change getting to boulder just being on a pavement more So it was lucky you're lucky to grow up and we had a dirt track. We had dirt trails. So dirt is uh, We still try to stay on the dirt as much as possible Josh Josh asks, uh, joseph, did you ever run a marathon pr? What's your half marathon pr? So i'll let you take that Uh, we've done some we've both done some trail marathons. Uh, but I couldn't even tell you the times and no, I don't know So josh, yeah We kind of we josh, we kind of we basically josh, we kind of skipped over the road Uh marathon scene and now I as a 33 year old i'm coming back I'm coming back in distance and trying to Figure out what my marathon pr is going to be this year. So i'm sure joseph will give it a go at some point But uh, yeah, it's kind of crazy. We kind of skipped uh skip that step a little bit Didn't we joseph? Yeah, yeah a little bit. Yeah, it's that's all right. Yeah. Yeah Um, so let's see here. I know I missed some questions and I apologize. I'm just sorting through here um let's see here and How trevor asked it, uh, how old are you and do you think it is possible to pr in the 5k now? I'm 28 and yeah, I think it is still possible. My 5k pr isn't that impressive. So that helps. So I You know if I was If I was to go to sea level and get in a fast race, I think I could so yeah, maybe that'd be kind of cool Yeah, and uh, nathan asks and this I use at your coach coach is gonna have to come out here coaching. Um, he said Tips for breaking 10 in the 3200 Currently with 35 to 40 miles a week previous pr is 10 20 So he wants to okay. He wants to break 10. Yeah, nathan. That's a that's a solid time Nice. Um, I think yeah, that's awesome Yeah, I think you're definitely I mean 10 20 you're real close I think going out, you know faster. I guess so what would be so basically two five minute miles So, yeah, if you you know, I think going out in 450 or something kind of take a risk a little bit And then see what you can hold on to Um, and you'll be right under there. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah nice. No, that's good and thank you for these great questions everybody. They're rolling in rolling in. I love it um Let's see here. I saw something about the olympics. I don't know if you want to make any predictions for this Is from jordan. He asked who are you calling for the 2020 olympic? marathon And I don't know if joseph. I don't know if joseph's following the world marathon scene as close as close as I am but uh Yeah, I I'm not but I don't know. I think I got maybe I would say from the u.s. I think Like gaylin ruff will probably qualify again and maybe uh parkerson Yeah, I'd like to see uh, I'd like to see jared ward. He seems pretty cool and yeah Yeah, no, I I really don't have uh too much knowledge though on in terms of So i'm not the best running fan. Yeah I uh, no, it's it's all good. It's all good. Well, I um I know we need to well. Here's one idea I have for everybody watching is we're gonna do I think a live stream like a live watch party For the london marathon and the boston marathon coming up probably Um, yeah, just where we'll watch live and we'll talk about it as it's going on kind of geek geek out about the marathon running Um, and so johnny asked here Let's just see here if I can get this on screen And I don't know how this is showing up on youtube is like is everybody seeing this text showing up here Is that how you're are you seeing it joseph? Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. No, I am seeing it. That's awesome Um, so johnny asked are you nervous for your uphill race next week any strategy or hopes for them or hopes for the podium I am pretty nervous. I have run this race a couple of times and it is uh, it is very hard So it's it's a such a unique race It's just Straight up hill the entire way and it's on snow obviously in the winter. So I've done it in the summer When it's on dirt, um, which is a little easier, but yeah, I'm a little bit nervous. It's gonna be hard It's it's basically, you know, 50 minutes of pain. So I think it's natural to be a little nervous for that Yep, yep, and uh, daniel asked, uh, where did you go to college? Which, um, I guess we didn't dive too much into that But uh, yeah, I'll let you uh, take that there Uh, yeah, I went to university of colorado same as uh in boulder. So So we actually go boss. Yeah, so we actually overlapped For basically a semester. So that was pretty sweet. I'm uh, five years older, right? So, um, so yeah, we actually got to overlap while uh, well, while we were there Uh, and the rec runner asked, uh, will you be going to support seth at the cleveland marathon? And uh, I don't think so. I'll just I'll I'll take I'll take that one rec runner basically Uh, true love is coming out and baby michael, but um Anyway, but that would be everyone could meet joseph that it sounds like there's going to be quite a contingent From the cleveland area that's going to be in the you know, it's like this is going to be a good a good opportunity To meet up and hang out and we'll do um, we'll do a I don't know about a shakeout before the race, but definitely after the race we'll do a little cool down and Uh, go get some go get some food and drink. How's that sound for everybody? So, uh, okay diving back in here um Let's see. I think I missed one about training. Oh, yeah, so I don't know. There's a little little tough here, but here we go Uh, so so whom um asked tips for getting speed faster for the 400 this is because my aerobic base is strong, but I'm lacking speed Interesting, so I'll let you uh, yeah, maybe dive into that Uh, let's see. Yeah, I guess if you had but you're you're saying a pretty solid aerobic base. That's awesome and Uh, you know You a good way to get faster at a certain distance is to just go shorter So if you want to get faster at the 400 then you run, you know hundreds two hundreds If you want to get faster at the marathon you run Milers three k's things like that. So Um, yeah, kind of work your way just to build that top end speed a bit Um, I don't have really good specific workouts, but yeah, hopefully that helps a little bit Yeah, cool. Um, and I'm gonna add Tom here. He's he asked what was the dirtiest Muddiest or most miserable or coldest race? Uh, I'll be I guess of your life or that you that was the most challenging. What uh, Oh, yeah, the worst the worst condition race I I think I have one, but um, yeah, you I'll let you go for it. Let's see. What what's yours? I don't know. That's Worst conditions. I mean, I I think it was probably, um A race in colorado springs where it just was like a it was you know, I think it was a 10 miler But I I was probably About 12 years old and it was muddy And it was it was one of like the pikes peak road runners and it just I was like so small and just like carrying mud It was so horrible. But uh, anyway, that's one that one that jumps out at me Uh, that's we definitely have a mixture up here. I think Some of the long runs that uh, see you those are some of the toughest races I was ever apart of so Ah, yeah, and so just for everyone joining, uh, I'm talking uh, and I'll bring myself back up on screen here So just for everyone joining, uh, this is our first attempt at a live stream where I'm interviewing someone And of course it had to be my brother for the first one. So this is my brother Joseph He lives about three hours away from where I'm at and we've both been running for years and years and years and Basically, we're going to be racing next weekend this uphill race where I still it's going to be so Joseph. How many How many I guess so what's going to happen? Everybody is going to be runners And skiers So it's you go up a ski mountain But Joseph, could you break down like how many total participants and then how many do you think will be skiing And how many do you think will be running and then also there's some there's some questions coming in about What shoes we're going to be wearing so? Um, anyway, I'll put you back on screen here. There you go Okay, nice. Yeah. Yeah good questions Yeah, it's a it's a pretty unique race because it's open to different divisions. So you can have Uh an at setup or you can just you know be in shoes. You can use Um, microspikes, I guess you could use snowshoes as well Uh, it was it might be really snowy. So maybe people will be using snowshoes And it's about it's it's probably maybe 60 40. Um, skiers two runners Uh, it's aspen's a ski town and I think yeah, it's a lot of skiers will be there and it's not a huge race Um, probably, you know 100 150 people or so, but It's uh, yeah, it's it's pretty competitive still and yeah, it should be fun. It's it's it's a brutal race If anyone has a vertical k race near them, I mean Definitely try it. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah, okay crazy All right. Yeah, that's it's gonna it's gonna be fascinating. Of course, we'll be uh, we'll be filming. Um, You know along not maybe but not along the way but uh before and after and then at the top of the mountain and I think we're both going to use poles. Um, that was a question that came in so uh, that's a good question and Let's see and then daniel asked, uh, daniel just so i'll just add it here. We did not Finish nolans 14. Uh, we attempted it and that's a story probably for another That's a story for another day, but um, daniel we uh, who knows if we'll be back But joseph, I don't know if you want to talk about the 14ers, but I if you want to talk a little bit, um All right, so here you get people if you want some Drawed jaw dropping Um information joseph. What what have you uh done in the last let's say two to three years here in colorado? Uh, let's see. Yeah, I have gotten pretty into the Uh into 14ers and we grew up around 14 000 foot peaks So it's kind of been a part of our lives our entire lives Uh, but yeah, I finished all of them summoning You know 58 highest peaks Which is a pretty cool project. That's really where my dedication has been the last couple years That and there's a group of peaks called the centennial. So it's the 100 highest and Getting close on those as well. And yeah, that's really where my passion is that I think that's I think when maybe people are wondering why I don't race very much It's because that's you know pretty much every weekend is going on these trips. So Summoning these different peaks and and I think it's I think it should be put on the record too that No one's 14. We did dream that up before we even knew that that was the real thing Uh, we dreamed it up a while ago and you back in the day did sections of it, you know, and it was Way before it was a popular Yeah, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty popular now. And I've kind of I think we both have Lost interest a little bit and I don't know. It's it's but yeah, it's it's pretty cool. It's a tough It's tough if you compare it to other ultras. It's it's up there with the toughest 100 miles. I think you can do really anywhere. Yeah no, yeah, so we've yeah, we've attempted it and it is It's tough. It's tough and there's another question from Josh and I hope these are showing up for you I don't know. Yeah, again, we're just figuring this out as we go everybody. So ironing it out, but basically Josh asked about the Barclay marathons and it's kind of the same thing like all these kind of crazy obscure mountain adventures are now very sought after and for good reason like, you know, the Barclay is a very special thing and I think they're I think they're protecting it pretty well. So it's not it doesn't change even though even though like the media coverage is just insane, but Like if now, you know, there's like a new documentary every, you know, six months it seems like about the Barclay marathons And so I Josh to answer on my end like I would love I would love to try I know it's hard to get in and just to figure out the application and But it does seem like a special Lazarus is his name, I believe or his nickname and You know, it's like a special community at the same time though It's a little tough because it's like you're breaking into this You're breaking into this community of people that are like very Some of the people there have been doing it for, you know, over 20 years And there's a guy in Colorado actually who's done it by 15 years in a row. So anyway, but yes I'm interested. I don't know what you think Joseph about Barclay Yeah, that's a good question. I think Barclay would be awesome. I Exactly I someone I forget who asked earlier about western states, but yeah, I'd be much more interested in something like Barclays I just think it's wild and has a really cool culture. So yeah Yeah, that's awesome. Yep um So and Trevor asked, uh, do we have to walk back down Aspen Mountain when we're done? No Let's hope not Trevor. We um, it'll be uh, it'll well, yeah, I'll let you answer Joseph No, yeah, there's a gondola. Uh, so we'll ride that back down. Thankfully. Yeah Well, cool everybody. Um, any other questions out there? Um, and again So yeah, any other questions that come in from here forward? We will answer. Um, and we could of course Uh, okay, there we go. Interesting. We could of course talk all night share stories all night about footlocker Uh, the university of colorado Univista high school like we could talk about running all night, but I always want to respect everyone's time and so any, um Any other questions for us? Um And uh, and anything else that comes in we will We will answer from here forward But yeah, just thank you for of course being here and uh, it looks like it The most important thing is that you can hear us. So that's this is a good step in the right direction um And joseph, I just want to pitch pitch to you that um, I think my next, uh, Live interview where I interview someone live. I want to interview, uh, Mike Wardian. Have you heard? Do you have you heard what he did recently? um He did the seven marathons in seven days on seven continents. Um Have you have you heard this guy? Yeah, uh, is it iron mic? Yes, exactly Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, I think that'd be great. Yeah, it'd be pretty amazing those guys that are able to String to the other big days like that. It's kind of hard for me to fathom. Yeah, yeah um And uh, joseph, I'm not sure if you know this but a guy in japan Is part of the demore global running crew on strava So if you're not joined up everyone, uh, feel free to jump in but there's a guy in japan Who has run a marathon? for 92 days in a row and his His goal is to run a hundred in a row Um, and so he's from japan and he's doing it. So and he's part of the the crew on demore global running He's like putting in like 200 mile weeks right now or whatever. It's just insane Um, okay. So the the questions are coming in quick here. So we're gonna go with so so whom uh first What was your freshman high school? mile pr like that's Whoo, that's going back But if you can remember if if you can remember your freshman high school mile pr I i'm gonna throw it. Uh, yeah, i'm gonna throw this out there. I don't really know But I think it was about 450 so a 455. I am not I'm not too sure that sounds good And johnny asks, um, what shoes are we gonna wear next weekend for the race? I'll I think i'm gonna wear the uh speed crosses So, yeah the solomon speed crosses. Yeah And I don't know yet if i'll do the arctic claw from innovate or if i'll do the speed cross five as well like, uh Yeah, I mean, I think they're both like the lugs. I mean, here's the thing if the snow is really soft, uh, microspikes Correct me if i'm wrong joseph, but they're not really gonna help that much. Um You know It's kind of yeah, it's gonna be a tricky, you know, there's gonna be a lot of snow this whole week and so Yeah, I don't know really about microspikes or anything, but yeah, I think the arctic the arctic Claws or the uh, you know speed crosses for priby. I bet we'll see a lot of them out there. So Yeah, and daniel asked, um, what did you place in the past for the vertical k joseph? um That's a good question. I think I in the summer one time. I think I got about fourth And daniel if you're familiar with joe gray and andy wacker those guys were in that race and they are They're pretty beast, you know, they're beastly on uphills and Uh, and then in the winter, I think I was about the same maybe fifth or so. Um And that one was at night. So this is kind of my first time doing it in the winter During the day. Yeah, that makes sense. They have it They have a few different versions of this same race. So yeah, yeah, yeah Nice and uh, josh, thank you for that. Yes, gary cantrell. I hope to is laz So thank you for that josh. I hope to meet him at some point and um, yeah, just to Share story war stories. Um, let's see and Um, I think kurt asked any tips for running well downhill on the trails. That's from kurt. Oh, that's a That's a good one. Uh, kurt. I I love that question. Um Because I do a lot of it and so do you joseph, but um, I don't know if you want to take a stab at it. Um Yeah, I think Uh, it's something I'm actually Trying to always get better at because I my back kind of tightens up on hard downhills and if it's technical Actually, I think it's technical. It actually kind of helps me But if it's just like a real fast straight downhill like I my back kind of tightens up and But I think it's always you don't want to fight gravity as much as you can You kind of want to let gravity pull you down the hill and keep your form Good so that you're not just like pounding your knees. You kind of want to stay on your toes, but Yeah, it's hard running downhill. It's it's it's actually pretty hard Um, and for anyone in europe, I've heard from our old uh, cu teammate andy wacker Who joseph just mentioned I've heard that the europeans are Some of like it's it's a different level of commitment to the downhill running and like It's like they just I don't know, you know, it's a little more Uh, I don't want to say dangerous, but they just kind of let loose a little more and I have found I have found like if I'm racing or if I just want to if I'm going for fkt a fastest known time that I will um I will It's almost safer to go like a little faster As long as you're really focused and there's not you're not like passing People and dogs and there's no one in your way and you can just like rather than kind of overthink it It's like you just get into this flow going downhill where if you pick up the speed just a little bit It can actually in my mind sometimes it actually almost feels more fluid and more um a little less likely to catch a toe um, but Man and far as technique goes man Good sunglasses so you can see the Good sunglasses so you can see the depth of field, but Yeah, anyway, you gotta do uh Yeah, you gotta practice it. Yeah, definitely. Yeah takes practice Um, k labass favorite daily trainer of all time pastor president. I think you kind of already answered that You can take it again. Yeah, the uh, nike structure for sure. Yep Oh, and daniel, thank you for the super chat. You're the best. Oh, that's awesome. Thank you daniel So and then let's see here Angie, thanks for being here um And let's see. I think from jordan and jordan, I believe is in high school So have you ever had a negative or maybe cool encounter with an animal while out running? Yeah Hey, I have had a lot actually Nothing I wouldn't say anything really too negative Except I really don't like snakes. I think jordan you're from longmont So you're not too far from boulder and came across a rattle snake one time in south boulder And that was pretty horrible. Yeah, I really just really hate snakes. So yeah Yeah, but yeah, I've seen some pretty cool animals up in the mountains and uh, yeah It's that's definitely a pretty cool part of getting out on the trails. Yep and um And then maybe probably that last one here, um tanner asked how many miles do you put into shoes before you you retire them? I It kind of varies on yeah, but if we can afford shoes but uh, no, I uh I've gone up 800 miles on a pair of trainers. I think normally though usually around 500 So 500 600, but if you're injury prone or if you Start getting hot spots or anything weird in your feet. I don't I wouldn't push it that far Maybe 400 miles or so it it kind of varies by your form and If you're injury prone or not. Yeah I I always say like you want to get at least 250 out of a shoe like if this shoe is breaking down before 250 It's almost like yeah, I I won't go back to it But and then if you get if you start approaching like 400 and 450 Um, it's like, okay. They knew like they they built a good shoe here. Um, that's kind of my range So Anyway, um, awesome Let's see here. We got people joseph. We got people watching from israel and uh all over the place. So Thanks for being here everybody and uh shout out to to collin and johnny and uh, we've been going about an hour So this is great. Thanks for joseph. I'll let you say goodbye and uh, then I'll maybe say something Yeah, I mean, oh, yeah, thanks everyone and uh, great questions and I you know, I kind of didn't add this earlier But yeah, I had a really solid support system had a really good coach. So that's really number one reason for any success that I had so Uh, yeah, yeah Thanks for uh, tuning in Man, no, it's good. Thanks man for taking the time and uh, joseph's a busy guy. So Uh, and if you're in high school, you know, and you got teammates and you know, feel free to share this The replay of this it'll be live on the channel Here as soon as I hit stop, um Because yeah, it'll it'll take um, it'll take maybe five minutes to process But then it'll be live for you and you could share it around and yeah We'll we'll try and do more of this. So yeah, mike warden is hopefully going to be the next Live interview um, the gentleman who ran Seven marathons on seven continents in seven days. So uh putting joseph in I uh kind of to shame now just kidding Yeah, that's yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, I think you know, it'd be cool I'd love to come back delve into some topics a little deeper. But yeah, it's just fun Yeah, no, thanks for being here and uh, appreciate it and uh, yeah, thank you all for For being here and for taking the time and um, as we always say, uh, seek beauty work hard and love each other And we'll see you guys, uh, we'll see you guys soon. We'll be doing a live stream this wednesday, by the way Just so you know, so you guys are the best. Thanks for being here