 ni, Jamiro LeSambo. Zambia is a democratic country and as a democracy we have responsibility as a political party to do checks and balances for the government in power. For us as the P.F. under the leadership of His Excellency Edgar Chagualungu as President Biden, we did a job for the people of Zambia because they wanted us to construct Zambia and we transformed it. So running our race is not something that we can say we ran our race because we are still working and we are still explaining to the people of Zambia the things which we did for them. And today we have the UPND in power and I can assure you that the UPND they don't know what they are doing. They did promise the people of Zambia a lot of things and we are just looking at them and advising in parliament on the issues which they promised the people of Zambia. We are taking it slowly. It must be very difficult to sit on the left side of the house after so many years of driving the seat of national affairs. Yes and no. Yes in the sense that we had a plan and we still have a plan for the people of Zambia. We wanted to transform Zambia and the people of Zambia they are there to attest to this. On the other side I can say yes because we are now learning new things in opposition on the other side. But it's very good again for my people in Kawushikonstuensi and for my enemies as well as Boman, Chuloshia, Lusambu, the buddhosa. I do have a lot of friends, I do have a lot of supporters and I do have enemies in our political fraternity. To them when I was in parliament as minister and following the parliament rules of the minister, the minister is supposed to behave, how the minister is supposed to engage, how the minister is supposed to debate because we were in government as a executive. So most of the time we had nothing to contribute when it comes to the business in the house unless the chief whip there is a debate, there is a motion in parliament and they pick you to speak on that particular motion and he or if you are defending your budget as a provincial minister. So my enemies thought no Boman is just in state house is saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was laughing at them I said oh they don't know what they are talking about but today we are there and we are trying to protect the interests of the people of Zambia. Again they are talking, no Boman is talking too much in parliament but I haven't even started talking. I haven't started talking, I will be talking starting next year, I will be talking starting next year. So if you they think I'm talking too much, let them wait for next year because it will be punch for punch. They will silence you very soon but anyway that's not what I need to ask you. There is no one who can silence me, the only person who can silence me is the Almighty God because he is the creator, he is the one who created me and if he wants me not to talk he is the only person who can do that. The other people, no, no, no because this is my job, my job is to talk. You represent the people of Kavoshi, let's talk about the Kopa belt, where you are coming from. Predominantly it was regarded as the bedroom for the PF and you really thought you still had it but so much had shifted and looks like you are still in past glory. You are perhaps one of the few that retained a seat on the Kopa belt. How do you hope to regain the popularity on that key Swing region of Zambia as far as PF is concerned? Thank you very much Kennedy and the viewers out there. Yes, Kopa belt is a Swing state for the political situation in our country. If the president has to be declared president of this country, Kopa belt has to be on the side of that particular president. So for me I can assure you that first of all Kavoshi Constituency, we will talk about Kavoshi Constituency which is the bedroom for PF and many other constituences on the Kopa belt province. Kavoshi Constituency, Kennedy and viewers out there, we gave president Edgar Chagualungu 100%. We gave him a landslide victory. President Edgar Chagualungu won in Kavoshi Constituency with a landslide. All counselors in Kavoshi Constituency, eight counselors they won with a landslide. The mayor of the city of Wundala, the reason why he is sitting on that seat of the mayor seat, it's because of the votes which we gave him from Kavoshi Constituency. 18,000 plus votes from Kavoshi Constituency we gave to the mayor. The MP for Kavoshi Constituency, Hon. Boman Chiloshialu Sambo the Buddha, he won with a landslide. So Kavoshi Constituency we have locked, it is a Constituency where... What did you do different that your friends didn't do? No, I can assure you that today if you go to the Kopa belt province and talk about UPD, they will laugh at you, they will laugh at you. The people go there. Why did you lose in the first place as a party? Exactly. One, we lost the 2021 general election on a lot of issues. The UPD came up and told the people lies. They told the people we are going to give you free education. They told the people we are going to pay for the loans for the students. They said they are going to give 1,500 salary increment across the board. And definitely the people started thinking, oh maybe this is the Messiah. Let us try this particular person. Maybe we will do things differently. But alas, today when you go to Kavoshi Constituency, when you go to Kalulushi, when you go to Ndola Central, when you go to Buanamukuba, when you go to Chifu, they will tell you excuse me, what are you saying? You are talking about UPD here? We don't want to listen to UPD because the things which they promised the people, they failed to do it. They have failed to do it. Now they want to come up with other excuses. No, we are going to implement free education after 2022 budget. No, we are going to give free education by removing the PTA and other user fees which the lenders used to pay. They are confused. They are confused in the sense that even the president himself, my presidentaka in the HLM, today he is regretting to be in state house. He is regretting because the things which he thought you will find in state house and the thing which he has found in state house, it's totally different. It's totally different. He has told me action speaks louder than words. He has told me one by failing to appoint permanent secretaries. 16 years in opposition, 16 years in opposition. You can't fail to constitute government up to today, you can't. I recall President Chiluba in 1991, immediately he won the general elections. He said I am now going to come up with my team, the team which will help me to transform Zambia. Five days, five days Kennedy, five days, one, two, three, four, five. President Chiluba appointed ministers. President Chiluba appointed permanent secretaries. Are you aware that the controlling officers who are permanent secretaries? Are currently undergoing an audit so that they are cleared before they are replaced? It doesn't matter. Doesn't that take time? No, it doesn't matter. Look Kennedy, a president who is ready to govern, you can see him by his fruits. First, the president, he told us first, you see the ministers who are going to give you. You see just wait, you see the ministers I'm going to give you. And you have seen? We have seen Jackie Wimple, we have seen Tyad, we have seen Chushi, we have seen myself. And these are the people we have been eating with. These are the people who have been in parliament with us. So there is nothing that we have seen. We know their contribution on issues to do with governance, we know them. Me, I thought they are going to give us the 12 disciples of Jesus. Because we would have said, wow, this is the different things that you are talking about. He went on to say, you will see the governor will give you. You will see the governor will give you. He gave us a Danny. This is the person who was there in PF. The person who contributed to the downfall of Kwacha to Dora from 7 to 22. And this is the person he came to announce that have given you the governor. To me, I thought he is going to give us a governor who is going to be a different from the people we know. I can assure you that the president who is ready to govern, you can see him by his fruits. He has failed to announce permanent secretaries. Now he is trying to give us district commissioners. We don't need district commissioners. Those ministers, provincial ministers, those provincial ministers who are in provinces like Kopa Belt, like Southern province, they can't work without permanent secretaries. So as we speak, they are just sitting ducks ministers. Why he says it's meticulous so he will give you permanent secretaries. Kennedy would have seen the good ministers, would have seen the good governor, would have also be expecting good permanent secretaries. He is the problem I have with you politicians. Sometimes you just criticize for the sake of popularity. The way they did. But you don't have to do that because here is the thing. It's too early to judge them as far as performance is concerned. Are you sure? You promised 90 days. What did you do in 90 days? Let me just differ with you, Kenny. Himself we was in, I don't know if it's Kopa Belt or Eastern province where he said I'm working the talk. I said you can't work the talk now Mr. President. There's nothing that you have done. Tell me that one thing which you have done for you to work the talk. The person who was working the talk is the president, Edgar Chagwa Lung. Because of the many unprecedented development which he gave to the people of Zambia. And he was working the talk. Today when you go around Lusaka you will see a lot of infrastructure which president Edgar Chagwa Lung worked on. The economy Lusaka is transformed. Many provinces are transformed. So president Edgar Chagwa Lung if you say I'm working the talk. The people of Zambia they will say yes sir you're working the talk because you did this, you did this, you did this. Now president is working the talk. After being appointed 30 days I'm working the talk. Talk for what? Your best is working the talk based on the manifesto. Which manifesto? You work the talk based on the things which you have achieved. They said they are going to create decentralization or I mean they are going to devolve the administration. Are you aware that? Let's talk about the budget. First before we go there. Are you aware that decentralization started long time ago? Of course. Decentralization started long time ago. Decentralization started long time ago. Of course. Decentralization started long time ago and it is not president Taka in the HDMA who has come up with decentralization of government system. Is the only one was given to 25 million at CDF? President Edgar Chagwa Lungu. President Edgar Chagwa Lungu started decentralization. I remember very well the money for ministry of livestock and fisheries and part of money for agriculture. It came to our province and in many other provinces. President Edgar Chagwa Lungu in our cabinet. He was even telling ministers we are going decentralization way because I want the funds to be reaching the intended people. Who are these intended people? The people in words in the constituencies. President Taka in the HDMA came on 2022 budget. He gave us as 156 constituencies 25.7 million kuacha. And the total budget for a country is 172 million kuacha, billion kuacha with 37 billion which is questionable because they have to clear this 37 billion because it is not heading up to 172 billion kuacha. So the 156 constituencies putting the money together. The budget has given us 4 billion kuacha. And this 4 billion kuacha in percentages it has just come into 2.3 or 2% which is a drain in the ocean. Because the president when he is going round with our fuel, our plan, using our taxpayers money in districts is saying I am going to bring the money from Lusaka, the money which the people in Lusaka used to steal. I am bringing it to you so that you can use. I don't know the people who are stealing anyway. The president should tell us the people who have been stealing government money because government money it is audited money and no one is allowed even to touch one way on those monies because it is not one person's money, it's a money for the people. So we want to know those people have been stealing the same money in Lusaka so that we can also know them because we are very annoyed that these people have been stealing money which meant for the people of Zambia. So the 25 million which you are talking about the CDF. We have CDF act and the CDF act the way it works in the sense that this money, the 1.6 million which we are getting, that money was going direct in a council account. This money, the Constituent Development Fund, it is not coming direct in my hands, it is not coming in my Constituent's office. So you will not point at you then? It is coming at council and council they work with Kavush Constituents and who is a representative for Kavush Constituents? Definitely I will be consulted. Okay, I will be consulted and I don't want to be blamed. I don't want Akain Desferias to come to me because right now he has failed to run this country. He has failed to run this country and I don't want his Ferias to come to me. Okay, and I don't want government to abandon their core responsibility of developing this country. If they want us to develop this country, if they want us as Constituents to develop this country using the CDF. First of all, let them increase the allocation to CDF. If for example, they gave me 500 million as Kavush Constituents and they gave me all those responsibilities. I can assure you that I will be the uppest member of parliament because I will know that I will construct maybe three strategic roads.