 Hi everyone this video is kind of a quick little update to a video we released a few weeks ago a few weeks ago We released the different kata in the karate kid movie series and the TV show koba kai And I thought it was a fun exercise to try to pinpoint the four kata. We were able to identify now You know anyone who's watched this channel for knows I love the karate kid and from time to time We do different episodes based on the movie series and the show especially our series on what kind of karate's and koba kai Which I'll put a link in the description below Basically for those of you haven't watched we determined that our theory is that Miyagi do karate is gojiru Okinawa karate and that Koba kai is Tonsudo. This is not the place to debate that go check out those videos and we can talk more about that But the point though is what's interesting though is as I was working on this update Jesse Enkamp from the karate nerd released his review of the koba kai TV series And he kind of brought to the surface a really interesting topic now for those of you who are not familiar with Jesse Enkamp Go check out his YouTube channel like right now There's a link to that description in the below as well, but he is a wealth of knowledge He is an authority and he is a scholar when it comes to traditional karate, especially Okinawan in Japanese history So definitely go check his stuff out But what's fun though is in his video and his review He points out a mistake that he found in the koba kai TV show But the reason I'm doing this a little bit of a tag on updates because I don't think it's a mistake so much Is I think Jesse uncovered something even bigger even more interesting in that both of our theories can go exist So this mini episode is kind of in two parts first I just want to throw my hat into the ring on this new debate and then we're going to go into the updates our previous episode The reason that I said it was Gojiru was based on the clues they presented to us in the movie series First of all, we have our main character Mr Miyagi who was named after Chojin Miyagi who is the creator and founder of the Gojiru karate system now the screenwriter Robert Markayman who wrote the karate kid based a lot of the movie on his own experience training in Gojiru And it's somewhat Mr. Miyagi is based a little bit on his own instructor Another sign that we see is that the techniques in kata that are taught in the movies are Present in the Gojiru system, although they're not really performed that well It's kind of the Hollywood choreographed version But they are present in Gojiru and then finally in the karate kid part two when they go to Okinawa You see the character of Chojin who is the student of Sato, which was Miyagi's best friend who trained with Miyagi Wearing a karate key with the Gojiru or goju Kai patch on his uniform now We are led to believe it's the same family style of karate since Miyagi and Sato trained both under Miyagi's father So they're both we have to assume different branches of Miyagi do karate now with all this said those are some small clues But after released our episode in season two of Cobra Kai They are now hanging up the photo of Chojin Miyagi in the Miyagi do dojo Which makes me wonder if they've seen our episode, but no to be serious though There's a lot of clues there to suggest Gojiru karate Jesse points out an interesting theory, and I'm not gonna spoil it I want you guys to go watch this channel But basically he points out why it's not Gojiru and yet a different system instead now One of the reasons he says it's not Gojiru Which is kind of ironic because that's the update I was doing for this week Anyway, is one of the kata that's present in the Cobra Kai TV series when Daniel is teaching Robbie and Samantha on the water They are performing part of the kanku or kusunku kata, which is not present in Gojiru But it is another Okinawa styles and he goes to the greater detail to break down details and techniques and performance As to why it's a different style instead of Gojiru But here's where I think our theories can coexist Gojiru was formally founded in 1930 by Chojin Miyagi In the Cobra Kai TV show we see on Miyagi's headstone that he was born in 1925 Which means that Mr. Miyagi would have been five years old at the establishment of this art Now what that means for the Miyagi family style of karate means is that the historically speaking The family style cannot be Gojiru because it wasn't around yet Which is where Jesse's theory makes complete and perfect sense However, I believe it's very very possible Especially in Okinawa when a lot of styles and local villages and they share and they they're trained to influence as each other That when Gojiru was established I think it's very possible that Miyagi's father may have incorporated it Especially since that they make a point in Karate Kid Part 2 to mention that Miyagi's village is next to the village of Naha Which is where Chojin Miyagi lived and then there's the name Miyagi So we can even maybe stretch so far as to infer that perhaps it's a fictional relative But that being said though is it's not uncommon for people to adapt style So perhaps Miyagi's father adapted this new style of karate and blended into the training Which you know, which would explain the Goju patch and hanging up Chojin Miyagi But would also explain the kattas that are present that weren't normally in Gojiru But they are in the other styles of Okinawan karate So I do believe that there's room there for both theories to exist And I think that Jesse's kind of cracked openness to look at it further It's not just Miyagi do karate, but there's different generations of it And there's a little bit more layers that we can look into with that Now another contradiction Jesse brought up was the fact that in Okinawa most fathers didn't teach their own sons But in the movie it is very clearly stated by Miyagi that he was taught karate by his father That he and his best friend Sato were taught by his father So that is established in the movie lore However in the teaser for season 3 of Corporal Kai They indicate that Mr. Miyagi has been keeping some sort of family history or family secret from Daniel And we don't know what that is so that might perfectly line up with what Jesse's saying I'm really intrigued to find out But I do have a question for all of you and for Jesse Sensei if you're watching as well Is since this kind of spurred on the topic of the photo being hung up In the karate kid part 2 we see the Miyagi family dojo and there are pictures hanging up on the wall Jojo Miyagi is not shown to be one of them, but there are other faces So I'm kind of curious if these since I you know, I'm not as well versed in Okinawa knowledge As Jesse is or a lot of you out there I'm just kind of curious are these real figures are these real historical martial artists or are these photos and drawings that they made Just for the film that's a question I have for you guys out there I'm really curious to know and then there are those out there who say it's just a movie doesn't matter as fake karate Of course, it is just a movie. It's fantasy. It's fiction But when you have fiction that's based on reality at least to some degree I find it to be a fun exercise to kind of pick apart references and just see what influences are So that's the question here is are the screenwriters doing a really deep dive and try to be historically accurate Or are we just seeing the blended different choreographers putting their own mix into the system? Honestly, it's probably that so I just wanted to touch on that since I was doing an update anyway And on our previous episodes so wanted to throw my hat into the ring on this issue So once again if you're not familiar with Jesse go check out his channel I have a link in the description below You're not going to find anyone on YouTube with a better wealth of knowledge of Okinawan and karate history than him top-notch authority However when it comes to cinema production and the karate kid movie trilogy, I'm the ultimate nerd We recently did an episode on the different kattas of the karate kid trilogy and the Cobra Kai TV show and Through a fun analysis and exercise We were able to find four kattas that we found present in the movies on the show Now some of you out there has some very keen eyes and we received several comments to point out two of them that we missed So this episode serves a bit of an update to that episode if you haven't seen it yet Go ahead hit pause and I've put the link in the description below Just open it in a tab and give it a quick watch through Otherwise we're gonna talk about the other two kata that you guys have found and we're gonna add them to the mix So just to recap the four kattas that we identified are the main kata of the series that the only one in the movies Our show that's actually referred to as kata and that is seyoon chin And that is a traditional Okinawan kata that we see Miyagi teaching Daniel and Daniel teaching his students throughout the process of the show So the second kata we identified was choreo or a version of it Thomas the ingriffeth who plays Terry silver and karate kid part 3 was performing a version of a very standard form in our Pumseh in taekwondo, but it's not the traditional version or one that you normally see But a version taught by jun chong which was his teacher so that is present in karate kid part 3 Also, we mentioned how the chores that mr. Miyagi has Daniel do the wax on wax off sand the floor paint the house paint the fence Those all stem from ten show, you know the hand motions taught in the Okinawan kata of ten show And then finally the most elusive one was the one that we only caught a glimpse of in karate kid part 2 When Daniel and Miyagi go to Okinawa Daniel wakes up and sees Miyagi finishing the kata in the family dojo So through a little bit of analysis and investigation we determined that that was shisho chin a gojuru kata So those are the four kata that we identified in the movies and TV shows and for the most part you all agreed which was yay Great, but as awesome as you all are you pointed out two more that we missed so let's talk about those now so the first one is kanku and Although seyoon chin is the primary kata of the karate kid series all together in Cobra Kai we do catch glimpses of kanku when Daniels teaching his students In seyoon chin, which is kind of weird because it kind of just pops in there as a glimpse This is a very old kata believes who have been brought to Okinawa by a Chinese diplomat Now during the course of karate spread kanku has found itself a part of several karate systems including shuritei Shoto kan kyokushin and the Korean arts of tongsudo and taekwondo So we don't really see very much of it in the show just a few of the signature opening moves in which the hand motions Distinctively represent gazing up into the sky so while it is brief it is present So we are going to acknowledge it now the second kata is present in the movie the next karate kid and I feel like we're going to have to cover this soon in the future synod ojo episode because there's a little bit to talk About here because the movie itself kind of fits into a weird place now. It is a spin-off film and Technically it is part of the universe, but I don't really consider it as part of the original trilogy Mostly because of several inconsistencies where this movie breaks canon with the main series But we're going to get to that in another time to give it a fair look viewers have pointed out yet another kata present in that film And that is the kata of Nianchi Samdan and sometimes it's pronounced different ways And it may also be referred to as techie and some other Japanese systems now we mainly see it in the part where Julie's in the monastery performing the kata when the monks walk in and They seem to have felt the creative liberty to throw in the crank it randomly in the beginning because reasons and she's performing it to the song dreams by the cranberries because who doesn't love performing kata to the cranberries and I don't know Niachi Samdan is also an old Okinawan form that too has found its way into multiple arts including Tonsudo as well Now as far as how both these kata fit into the universe of the karate kid Well technically speaking that we determined that Miyagi do karate is gojiru But gojiru was founded when Miyagi was really young you know back in the 30s So it was the answer reason that karate being Miyagi's family art that his father and family would have known some other local fighting systems And have other Okinawan influences so technically speaking Kusanku and Nianchi Samdan could have been somewhere in that mix But it's more likely that choreographers Pat Johnson and Hirokota put them into the next karate kid and the Cobra Kai show Respectively so all in all this was just a fun exercise. Yes it's just moving TV shows but sometimes it's on the break it down and see what we can dig up and With all of you guys participating and pointing out new stuff. I didn't know made it that much better So now we can confirm that there are six kata present in the main line karate kid franchise Now this does not include the 2010 remake the karate kid only because that's a completely different consistency It's in a different universe. It's not canon whatsoever. And that's a whole our role all in itself Thank you so much for watching if there's anything else we missed in the other techniques or kata's Please be sure to put them in the comments below and we'll be happy to take a look till next time