 Ha ha didn't even change the banner yet Let's see here Running a couple minutes late ran all the way back down the stairs. That was a We'll go ahead and change my banner so it matches before we get any further Welcome to number 280 Wow, I've been doing this a while that is wild So now we got this sorted out. I think we're live. We can go to the comments here. Look at this Ah Some of us lurk and have it open since it's created. Yes Made the final countdown hit that like button cool cool cool and I'm here good afternoon everyone It's Tom having technical issues call slower system support. Yes in a way I don't know about really technical issues one of my one of my employees had come by and And Needed to pick up a few things drop off a few things and we started talking first time he'd been over my house so You know, I gave him the nickel tour of the new studio and what I got going on here at my home office Hmm oh this is a really solid question. I really like this question. It's so relevant Let me think here, how could we do this if we hit the share button over here and we hit share screen and we quick to crone tab. Oh Look at this video that I'm uploading. What would this video be titled? Help me write the title for this VM Bear oh Yes, gotta ask it as a question XC N G a good VM Bear alternative How's that for titling? I'll let you guys pick the title because it's not published yet By the way, it's close if you see on the bottom here processing HD version Actually, I think I gotta hide this but yes the video was actually uploaded. I just need the thumbnail on there because Thumbnail so but yeah, I'm absolutely going to be Discussing this and I got to put in a few extra things like the articles in here. It's worth discussing right now. Why not? And let me Drag this because I have time stamps There's not too many time stamps or just a few so you guys can watch the how how it gets made. I literally do this There's some time stamps We have a Series of things that get put into the video at the top, which is going to be the articles. I referenced comparison PDF articles from the register We can actually read these real quick because they're they're solid solid for sure Let's go ahead and stop sharing and share the other tab because why not talk about it while we're doing all this, right? so If I could nail down hardware to go with it, I would hop on XEP to Bangware sooner. Absolutely VMware goodbye. Yeah, I think my previous humor, but time you missed the CNXEP and G I think I got it I think you got it. So is a good replacement. So is it replacement or alternative? Is XEP and GA good VMware alternative good replay or a good replacement For VMware and one of those works. I'm not sure not sure which one's best Yeah, Marcus no pizza right now Marcus is buffering Nonetheless the thing I was gonna talk about here now that we have share a screen chrome tab Share there we go Broadcom stated strategy is very simple focus on 600 customers who will struggle to change suppliers reap vastly lower sales and marketing costs by focusing on that small tool share my R&D by not thinking about the needs of other customers and Who can be let go if necessary without much harm to their bottom line? So yes, not only are they going to be Focusing on them and I like this right here Kraus told investors the company actively pursues 600 customers the top three tiers of the pyramid above because they are often in highly regulated industries Therefore risk averse and unlikely to change suppliers. So if you are among the 600 Mmm, you may not be the happiest Because you're going this is really hard to change I guess I'm just gonna take it if you're among the thousands of VMware customers. You're just gonna go ouch Should I be looking for an alternative? So, yeah Sadly too many are tied to beam which supports neither XC PNG or a proxmox There's backups inside of there so you can actually Solve two problems you can your total cost ownership can go down because now you're not paying for beam And you're not paying for VMware. I mean there's opportunity right there when you're not paying for Either one of those things Life gets easy, right? Then I mentioned that in the video of the videos Not too long. No, it's It's broken. Well, I gotta re-render that video because for reasons unknown. It is not the right length. Oh, I know what happened Stupid DaVinci I'll do that right now while I'm waiting the DaVinci resolve tool decided to do something else So we can open up DaVinci I Just got to hit render on it again. I see what it did now I didn't render the entire video and I don't know why so But I do know how to fix that single clip individual clip H2 65 Render entire timeline Sometimes I accidentally click on things and it does not do what I expected to do add new job There we go add to render queue and render all all right, that's back to rendering You started your IT journey because of your channel learned XC PNG from you and RT FM got a new position at work And they use VMware, you know the important thing to learn though is that the knowledge you have for how virtualization works is a transferable knowledge set Because it's it's like this over time Because I understand the fundamentals have a lot of things work It has allowed me to over the years pivot between different virtualization platforms I've even worked with that VMware may have fact in the earlier days I had set up some VMware systems and I'm familiar with them Probably not the most recent versions and usually I'm only ever dealing with older versions But the concepts of virtualization and the architecture behind it once that's in your head and you understand those fundamentals you can pivot between different platforms and understand how they work and at least how they're supposed to work and Hyper-V might be a little of an exception because yeah. Oh Have Tom fixed the video. I don't know. Can I fix it in real time? Let's find out folks. I Know I see what you're saying that I forgot something Let's see what happens if you fix it while it's live We're gonna find out right you guys are seeing what I see now So edit X I actually hear him coming down There I think it's fixed now. Yes You guys got my son to come in here, let me know Yeah, if those you didn't notice he just popped in the back background real quick in before Tom breaks something And that's how I got the job knowing the foundation next to you bring bringing them to Vumeer. Yeah, once you understand It updated on your laptop in real time, that's cool That's definitely neat once you get these concepts of virtualization though That's where things it just makes it easier for you once you this goes through a lot of tech It's not like when you learn Linux Learning every distribution and every nuance not necessarily practical But once you take to learn a Distribution you can generally take that knowledge and port it over to Other distributions and just have to learn the nuance of like their package management and where they may have a few different things set up in The same concepts if you understand high levels of how programming languages work You just have to learn the nuances of the different languages the different way they may implement something But the concepts in general are the same Programming maybe a little bit more abstract for that because if you understand a few different languages and someone throws assembly at you Now you're talking about a much different challenge Let's see what else do we have oh, yeah, we're talking about this so Let's see if I keep it this zoomed in I can share it because I think that makes it easy enough to see But we are playing with some new servers we got in I'm getting ready. I need to do a whole new getting started with this Getting started was an orchestra are getting started with XTP and G. I'm gonna do it all as one big video But the I've got a you know building open-source lab storage, but I want to talk about this at some point, too This is our lab R630 that runs MVME ZFS on here. So that's You know, it's a pretty cool thing and there's going to be a lot of questions about how that works because it does support ZFS but it's Not too tricky to set up It's not right now on the roadmap to have drive management inside of the UI And I know that's gonna be some of the things people ask because there's ways you can monitor the drives There's just not any Current way it's kind of deep on their roadmap. They do have some feature requests for it But it'll be stuff. I'll be talking about When it comes to my videos all around XTP and G, but let's do this And now do we I can leave it on this pull it doesn't really matter But playing around in the lab I Do have a few things I've noticed and it I think it has to do with this older del And I have another one coming in a new generation del versus the old generation del and I'm gonna cover some of the differences But one of the problems I've run into is the drive speed of these so I think no that won't work at all that's gonna be terrible Thursday May get rid of there we go All right, I have to stop this thing from running Summon out a little bit. I think hold on There we go. All right, cool But that fixed But I'll be talking about some of the benchmarks on there between the different versions of the Dell servers That's gonna be kind of on my list and a lot of people want to talk about this lab Not everybody has the resources to buy it and try it So I want to buy it and try it for you and explain, you know the pros and cons of some of the different servers That's gonna be some of the things I'm gonna be covering on there Just a thought maybe a broken-up series of videos regarding Xen and XT So I don't know how Chris Crossock did for you PBX, you know Here's the problem and I don't know what the right answer is but if you look go on to YouTube and You look up something I'm gonna pipe in and a good example of this so The top videos But I put in Python for beginners because I know it's an easy one that I can show an example of If you look at the top viewed videos on this They're not people who broke them down into series. They're these they're the people who have a Lot of views for a five hour a six hour Video, you know what I mean when you start looking at these people who broke them down into really long videos like this one in particular 33 million views and It seems to do better as a longer video now I time index everything and so far any of my testing if you look at my You have sense getting started type of videos like this one here my long hour and a half video 802,000 but none of my small ones have near as many views Here so that's a there's a pretty big difference between them on that. So that's one of the reasons I do it though What up Marcus? Okay, yeah close the front door behind you so the the longer videos seem to do better based on Based on everything I can tell we can actually whoops You can watch he should walk out my son. Just was down here and he'll walk out on the porch in just a minute. So We can actually see it all happen Our laptop chips like an i5 6600 you worth it for Windows VMs Ram see to be more important 32 gig is almost a must for a few Windows VMs. Yeah, that's That's one thing for sure Windows is memory hungry and IO intensive So make sure you have enough IO and memory to take care of Windows that's it's not as much the processors is those two things Nobody's even locking the door R640 is what I'm getting I'm not I don't know if we're getting an R650 or not That's a may well we we get we may get one for a client if we get one for a client We have a client that might be ordering some new hardware And not all hardware passes through our office, but this hardware might so if we get some hardware that passes through our office We'll do a test on it. Hello to the bearded it dad Who doesn't want to listen to me for multiple hours? My children do not and my wife does not Those two and a half hour videos without index are horrible. Yeah, the ones with index are definitely there Um Our R7 T is okay for homelab hypervisor training. I would say for learning. Absolutely the R7 10 is still pretty good It's it's really cheap to get an R7 10 right now. Um, the price is Really fallen on those to the point where uh shipping almost costs as much as them. So yeah, definitely R7 10's I'd put on the list. I have to I got to think about I wonder if we still have any Um at my office. Maybe we'll give some away. I don't want to ship them It'll be for local people. Maybe I'll just show an ad together form We retired those. I mean we had some um in my friend I actually we retired him a while ago. I gave him to my friend He got new servers at his house. So he gave him back to me. I I don't know what happened to him after that so uh That's interesting I brought up his christmas videos were great For my taste in pbx setup as I get distracted easily. Yeah It's also the commitment time when people see a long video But because I time index everything and have it all organized People can jump to just a section that matters to them Do I still use the fx 83 20 as my home server? No Wait, let me think no No, I don't that one that's an old that video is from a few years ago And I do not have that at my home server anymore This is the one challenge you run into and it's going to come down to Where you live and how much does electricity cost the as you go up to the newer generation servers Each newer generation uses less power Using less power may be a really big deal to you if you have a higher cost of electricity or a problem moving Uh You know moving the heat away that they may generate That being said it does vary by where you live We have relatively inexpensive power here in michigan A lot of other states it varies. I know people I think it's in germany have mentioned before that it is substantially higher there I I don't know this i'm saying what people have commented on and that power costs Can mean what you saved on the server you pay over time substantially more so you have to just Do the math that if a server is going to idle at 120 watts or Wherever that idle may be depending on the configuration of the server What is the cost of 120 watts consistently on Your bill it is that worth it if it costs you like me a small amount of money No big deal if it's costing you a significant amount of money suddenly. It's a big deal You have to take uh take other things consideration Um, I don't really think you need Uh s r i o v and v t d for experiments honestly unless you are trying to get the most performance out of it And that's usually not the case if you're trying to learn virtualization It starts with what you're trying to learn what's your goal if your goal is to learn Some of the things that may require s r i o v then yeah, they're a bad choice if That's not your goal. You're trying to build learn linux learn virtualization build a cluster of servers Do some automation with ansible and terraform and do some deployment then R7 10 will work perfectly fine a raspberry pi as jeff geerling has so many projects around them Works quite well for doing and learning a lot of extensive things that can be completely translated to the bigger world of technology So it comes down with you know when the old hardware or even using Basic home lab hardware that's uh, you know just retired computers that works too Off topic. I had to rma my home lab unify nvr, but they are backwardered. Yeah That's an issue Uh, what do you recommend for a pf sense box right now single home dmz some light applications I really like the 4100. Um, it all depends on Well, I like the 2100. I like all the neck eight boxes But I don't know how fast your internet is the neck eight 2100 is going to start to struggle at one gig internet Um, depending on what you're running on it the 4100 works perfectly fine with it. So I'm using a couple intel nux uh sixes for my hyper v's Sorry about hyper v But hyper v is just my it's got to be my least favorite hypervisor of any of them Is what it is if you're using it some people are really embedded with it, but yeah Uh And this is another option make it two projects in one build your home lab power. It was solar so Then then it's it's two projects in one you get the Hands-on experience of building your own solar system and energy support system around it That's a great lab to learn in and then use it to uh Build out your you know off grid system and not have it Pull from the power grid for that expensive-ness when you had to run all these servers Greetings from the netherlands. Absolutely Yeah hyper v embedded and trenched. Yeah, some people are is what it is It's not the best performing system. Um That's come up to windows talked about it the way microsoft handles their storage spaces is just slow and Then they've had updates that send hyper b into its Boot loop problems. I don't I'm not impressed with it at all. It's built on microsoft. So Um, you know proxmox and xcp and g are two good alternatives. I'm partial to xcp and g It seems to scale better than proxmox for anyone i've talked to but i'm not enough for proxmox expert to understand the problems And troubleshoot them. I know we've migrated people away from proxmox Because they couldn't get the scalability they were looking for out of the system And the performance but I did not take the time to tune said system form because i'm not a proxmox expert They are the people we've consulted with are really happy that they're on xcp and g but that's a platform. We know The neck eight box required 10 gig internet and I would like a rack mount Uh, they have them They have rack mountable ones. Uh, they now have a rack mount for the 60 100 So if you want 10 gig the 60 100 does offer 10 gig Yes, uh, I work hand in hand with surenance because we're an official reseller of the product So, uh, we work with them and so most of my videos are in there What do I use for video editing? Uh, I am using divinci resolve Just got a box with a five two and a half gig ports a j 1245 pump to see how well it works Uh, serve the home to set a review on those they work. They they were pretty positive on them. Um, they don't seem like bad boxes. They're just They're great for home lab. I don't think I really want them in a business Because they're just too inconsistent um Where was those ones they had? I'll throw them up on the screen here so they did a review of these but they're yeah just kind of a Inconsistent because they have some different names I managed a couple A couple hyper V clusters and the licensing is a little bit better than vmware The bar is pretty low there, but that's interesting that microsoft has anything that's better licensed than vmware But because the two of them are using competition to make That is a problem Is e s and i needed to run a pf sensebox? No It is not needed. Um Open vpn can use aes, but open vpn can use other protocols as well and it's not needed. It's just for acceleration Uh, there's not a dramatic difference between the two of them Accelerated wrong, so it's not like night and day I say some r6 sense. I put them to use kind of new r series. I can practice migration and retire the ulcer Yeah, it's it's great learning you can do with a lot of those Living area of the u.s. That has one of the cheapest power averages in the u.s. That's awesome Uh any harm in handing windows vm's or the u disc e s? I just limit the system I limited it to two terabytes wondering if there's a good reason for this limit. It's an architectural design of the way um It's the way the vm's are limited in terms of how big you can make a disc It's an architectural limit from the early days It's no one's bothered to rewrite it because it's just not a great idea from from a design standpoint to have Oversized discs you don't you shouldn't even have them set to two tv Generally, we build them way smaller than that because you should not be Building your storage to tie it to the hypervisor like that. That's just not how it's supposed to work I probably should just do a video because this is a confusing topic and we see So we unfortunately we unravel messes made out in the field by people Um, we have another client We have to undo the previous technical person who thought to make the vmware set up with all these large drives And we're like no this is not the design architecture You should build your windows vm's build your application In different locations as microsoft usually does when these are set up Like and you set up a couple small drives for it But then all your data the larger part goes somewhere else present an ice guzzie to the windows machine Will be an ideal way to do that that way you have separated all these things that way when you do backups or snapshots of your vm You're not trying to move some massive piece of data. That's just not a good way to do it um Best psn shredder for 10 gig internet home del r6 20s. Yeah, you can do those too. Uh, I mean that's kind of a Overkill you can build a 10 gig system for probably I mean, I got depends on how cheap you can find one of those You can build something less power hungry Proxmox the scale has multiple proxmox v e cluster with a lot of vm and cluster and more than 10 nodes No problem at all Um, it was the number of vm's the person had they could not get the performance They had a paid subscription of proxmox and they were super unhappy with their support we had one person who had a large infrastructure and was Really happy to get off a proxmox I I don't know. I was not there to solve that problem I was there to consult with their news set system that was all xcp and g and help them do some migration So, um, I don't really know I I've had other people tell me but only one that we actually Engaged with that was at scale. So But I don't have anything against proxmox if you want to use it go for it my interest in using it It doesn't have all the features xcp and g is so to me It's a downgrade in terms of features. It does have a feature that will make people happy though Proxmox has different container management that is not baked into xcp and g which is fine I don't really care as much about managing containers through xcp and g So it's not a use case for me, but all the other features that xcp and g has I like better than the way it's implemented in proxmox. Therefore. I don't ever plan to switch Analyzing the wire shark. I realize there are many art frames that ask for the origin of my pf sense ip Do you have any solution to fix it? There's not a solution to fix that that's just how the networking devices work Any plans to create a video sampling? migration of vmware xcp I've talked about migrations and other videos and If you use I think I have it Do this one here this works I was going to share my screen If you type in clonezilla, that's an easy example. This is a Destination a whole video talking about doing migrations. It doesn't really matter to and fro I did it with clonezilla. It's virtual machine or physical machine migration with clonezilla And you can migrate from one place to another whether it's hyper v vmware proxmox or bare metal You can just use your cloning software to move Uh the vm over from one platform to another the other option is in zen orchestra You can also um You can do imports of vms. So Actually, I like that. I like the fact that you can even import via there. So you can drop in um OVA or xva file. So drop ova or xv files here to import virtual machines So that's another way to do it. You just drag them in there. So you can bring in ova's If you can get an ova out of there you can migrate it in it's not much of a video to talk about it I mean no anything I'd mention and it may be obvious But maybe not to some remove the vmware tools prior to doing the export um If not, you'll have a bunch of errors and may or may not be bootable because the vmware tools will pause looking for the vmware host So remove vmware tools before you do it Have you seen any difference in me my single port between different hypervisors? No, I have not Um, you know for the most part and I've read I've read a lot of studies on this Um hypervisors in general when it comes to cpu usage, there's not a big difference between them They they both come really close to bare metal not the same But there is a really close to provided you everything set up properly blah blah blah But there's a reasonably close to bare metal you get there's not a massive loss of processor when you virtualize things that part The companies get right let's see What else do we have here? Hope let me reply my other server is on its way He got the 630 Testing it now you're watching me reply in real time You don't Need any rails As if we needed rails for it not for these particular servers Rails might be nice All right, cool Send all right cool that person's taking care of that's oh the more servers, you know real time You're watching me work because I like to respond to people they want to ship them and I'd love it if they shipped it today That way it'll be there next week All right Can chunas host replicate two servers instead of just one? I don't understand that as a question Is it safe to run a nas on xcpng? I don't recommend virtualizing nas doesn't mean you can't Uh, I think I have a video on that Let me look Uh, I probably have a video where I talk about it. There's ways to do it. It's just I probably repeatedly Um Tell you not to though Actually, I think it would be Hey, look how to set up chunas core as a vm and xcpng So I even have an entire video on this topic So you can I I say in that video too. I don't recommend it Finally I see an important chunas from hyper v to a physical machine It's just not my preferred way to do it when it comes to nas It's and there's always someone who say but mine works fine And I also have a ticket open for someone who just lost all their data another one I You know, it's the use at your own risk type thing They they had a really beefy machine So they wanted to virtualize it and pass some of the hb through and then there the people who contact me going Is there a way I can recover? All these drives. I'm like, no, it's all corrupted. It's all gone. I don't know what caused it I just know where the status you're at right now is Yeah, you want to pass the hb through but even when you do occasionally things go wrong It's just you're adding more complexity. Uh, there was a bug. So they found a while back in the uh in one of the hypervisors I believe it was the zen server one and they fixed it. So now that bug stops that problem Until there's another bug somewhere. It's just an added level of complexity I don't need in my life, but if you only have the budget for one single machine, then yeah Then it may be something that works for you. Just make sure you have a backup of everything You mean can a cheer net sales replicate to a cheer net sales be which replicates, uh, which church sees so there is Isn't a load on a Yeah, you can replicate to rep you can keep bouncing it down the road like that You can replicate to one and replicate to another that yes, you can But the replication doesn't have that much of a load on the server to do that so I I usually Have one server and it may replicate to more than one location Because replication is done at a differential rate So it's only the data changes from the last time it did the replication So it's usually not too much load at all on the server I guess but that's going to vary with your data run rate good network wide ad blocker, uh I probably would say I like pf blocker and pf sense, but a network wide ad blockers The privacy things like, uh, running um Ublock origin inside your Browser probably works better So I have one system with too much ram and too much cpu and need two very different nas one for bulk storage one off Flash for ice cozy One true nas or two true nas vms Well, you can run inside a true nas you can build multiple pools So you can group together your fast drives and group together your spinning rust and create two separate pools So you have two different Designs essentially where you have your really flash ones and you can share things off that and you can have another pool Of less than fast things that you can share. So this is absolutely supported. Uh when you're doing this Is gpu kuda pass you possible with a linux vm inside a true nas core? Uh, I don't know I It's not there. They have limited amounts of pass through ability in true nas It's just not the nature of what they do very well. Um, it's The true nas scale works better for pass through but true nas scale Has some of its own quirks because it's such a new product doesn't mean shouldn't use it just be aware Of some of the quirks that it has That's the important part on there, but yeah gpu pass through it does have the options for it I've done no testing with it and it's really low on my priority list because The vms inside of true nas until scale gets a little bit further along I might do some more testing with it later, but right now not so much How do you get around multiple windows shares on true nas not connecting simultaneously? I have a video where I talk about doing acls and permissions But I don't know exactly what problem you're speaking of because I have on my true nas Log into it here Here is uh My multiple window shares computer sink video production And tom's computer backup three shares. They all connect perfectly fine to my computer and my windows computer So, um, I'm not really having a problem with that So I guess I don't understand a problem that's probably best posted into forums if you can articulate the problem a little better Installing an ssl certificate on web server true nas machine. Will it take effect on web daf? You know, I have never used the web daf on here. So I don't know. Let's look while we're logged in edit Yeah, there there's where you build the certificate. So yeah, if you install the certificate on here It would choose it. So it does choose from the So in here, there's the certificates. So if we go over here to system And you look at the certificates if you install one of these certificates You could put a certificate here that would then show up there. So yes You can do that in true nas Looks like it would work. I've never used the web daf on there never had a need for it The things we use the most when it comes to doing this is going to be actually go back over services I use iSCSI rsync Us not on this one on another one. I use s3. Matter of fact, let's go into my other one Because this one we're using For s3. Yep. There's my s3 storage So if you go over here to storage pools, how much do we have in s3? It's going to be in my backups This is all my synologies from different locations. So yeah, only about 2.8 terabytes of backups through s3 Synology, I've got a video where I talk about doing that Hello and greetings from portugal Oh Tom is right. Try the forums. We'll go with that. I encourage people all the time I've talked about just how much time I spend in my own forums the number of people we have there every day posting in the forums So the forums is definitely I got a few things I got an answer in there today. I just having a chance But I go in there at least daily. So You know, I keep this up to date. You can see there is uh, hold on Let me sure I don't show anyone's address here just in case I'll open up the admin panel There we go. Yeah, I can show this it doesn't have anyone's name It just lets me know if there's anyone flagged in there as I uh moderate because spammers but to give you an idea When you're going through this, um Each day there are anonymous 3 000 people logged in 756 users So there is constantly people on a daily basis several thousand visiting and at any given moment It looks like quite a few logged in between 600 and on some busy days like a thousand people that have Logins that are visiting here. So it's not just me answering questions I've built up the community over years to be a lot of people asking questions in my forums. So highly recommend it. Um I'll throw a link in here too for people who are unfamiliar with my forums I don't think anyone by now is I prefer to use nfs for xcp and g but it does support ice cozy as well Thoughts on the vmware sale. Yeah, we were talking about the thoughts on the vmware sale earlier Um, we'll bring it up again because it's fun to read I'll I'll actually let me just throw this article in there Elba vmware a long time ago um This is what their answer is the The rapid transition for perpetual license use description. So we already know where they're going with it They plan to raise prices and how much are they going to raise them? Well, vml will add 8.5 billion And they currently produce 4.7 billion Sounds like roughly they're going to double the price So they're going to raise rates and uh, yeah, that's that's I mean It is it is it's a closed-sort solution. They can do what they want with it. Um This is really stated here. Broadcam strategy is very simple focused on 600 customers who will struggle to change suppliers Read vascular sales and marketing costs by focusing on that small pool are trim r&d not thinking about the needs of our customers Um, who can be let go if necessary without much harm to our bottom line Uh, this is another article from the register. I shared these out earlier today like on my linkedin and twitter so yeah it's just Well, those things I they're very clear on what their strategy is raise prices a lot Uh, and don't focus on things that cost money Hey, tom with is your experience with point-to-point ap connections? We are buying land on a mountain ca I set up a microwave connection with some kind of one gig up and down the Unified stuff works great for that. So um, highly recommended. I've done a few videos on it I have a video of how we shoot the data across the detroit river So absolutely completely viable. There's really good solutions from unify For that they're actually a really they're they would make some great products in the point-to-point market Well problems pop up in homelab It seems that you just learn to set up things sure updates break things fix those things different problems It seems Yeah, I mean part of the learning experience of working in tech is you learn it doesn't just work It's work that you have to do to keep it working Especially when updates and everything breaks things. So Raise the price without features great for them. Yeah I've read that price of vmr my triple keeping an eye on that wouldn't surprise me. How do you make more money? You raise prices. How do you make even more money than that? You raise them higher As kudapassion is not certainly a links vm. Is it worth getting? Uh, a new zion or previous gen reviews are scarce for them Uh, looking into the 500 Meg read rates piece. I don't have an answer for that. I'm also not the most Well-read hardware expert on all the different processors There's plenty of forums that are though Always important to be vendor agnostic as possible good tools to include terraformansable. Yes building your platform So you're not married to a single vendor is critical if you care about The the bottom line because what happens is you're tied to some proprietary, especially cloud companies love to do this Get you tied into their proprietary ecosystem that way as they raise prices or make changes They know you can't leave or at least not easily not without lots of refactoring and retooling. So Um, yeah, that's that's the thing But this video finish That's what i'm looking at now. I was re-rendering this in the background my While everything else is going to the video the right length now because they accidentally didn't Put out the full length of the video Yes So now we can upload the video Properly, and I think we can upload it while i'm doing the stream. Let's see how that works How's the new servers going? Well, they uh Zfs is all set up. Actually, that's what I was playing with earlier with some of the things And if anything running out right now probably not Because the mvme's I have set up in here. This is the lab r630 mvme's Uh type zfs And I need to do a video probably dedicated to so people have a better understanding of how zfs works inside of xcp ng um It's is supported Maybe or maybe not in the way Uh, people want it or understand it. I should say not want it because that is a um Well, let's see Let that upload see if it breaks my stream While it uploads So why here another person when you can just pay us a few more million per month. Yeah Azure adb is love to get to use their services azure ady. Yep Uh does xenox just support white labeling I don't think so. I've never thought of a way to white label it But I don't know why you would either Um, maybe I don't understand the use case for that xcp ng zfs is still weird. It's still vhd's on top of zfs not z vowels like proxmox. That's correct That's one of the things that proxmox does have is um A tighter integration with zfs because the way they're they're doing it differently But if i'm not mistaken, uh, I've only had people tell me this and I haven't really dug in to verify it but xcp ng Proxmox when it sets up to zfs the snapshots you do Are zfs level snapshots. They are not that way in xcp ng You can do zfs snapshots, but you're manually doing zfs snapshots So something to think about there Or if a cloud company goes under it takes your boat with it. They usually don't go under. I'll I'll say that much too Uh, I don't have one yet. I'm working on a um A video on an updated one because i'm working on a list of all the different Uh current market of unify access points. So that video is coming soon Does the necky 6100 have a cell fell over not built in So that is not something native to it Do you have a go-to vpn solution of sports mfa banging my head against the open vpn trying to figure out what i'm missing with their solutions technically the open vpn is Multi-factor because you have to have the certificate along with the username and password. So those are multiple factors of authentication um But the problem is if you're trying to implement it via neck gate neck gate at this time as in i'm sorry As in pf sense neck gates of people that build it at pf sense project They do not have the totp implementation of open vpn The only other firewall that we uh, we support uh, that does have it that i've seen is The untangle so untangle has open vpn with totp. So you have the certificates You have the user and password then you have totp. So technically you have four pieces of Uh, things you need in order to get the vpn working Ever played with neck 18 sr. Nope. I have not and it's not really on my roadmap to use it right now How do you add sysprep to creating a template next to png? Well you sysprep the machine you shut it down and you make it a template um That there's no secret to that It's just you sysprep and then you say this is my template that I clone things off of let's let's talk about how you clone things So it's just maybe the question you want to know So here is this right here and let's pretend matter of fact, I think I have one called template Hey, look I do A bunch of lab server template. How do we make another copy of this? We hit fast clone And now we got a copy of it or I could hit copy if I wanted to name it and I could hit name Underscore copy, but if we did this hey, look, there's the clone All right, we started this clone. So this is the Lab clone one. All right, we've named that one and started it up Let's make another one go over here And we're we'll just hit the fast clone again All right, uh, we'll start it and this is now We'll call it Clone two So if I would what you do though is I would have sysprepped this one in the windows world You don't have the sysprep Linux, but in the windows world you would sysprep this and uh, but there's my two clones running So here's the first one. I'm sure it's booted and running now. Uh, almost there you go There's really nothing to making these templates uh and building a hip. That's booted clone two is clone two ready probably Almost it's gonna flicker here in a second and be ready Uh, do do there we go Now this one's booted and ready. So now I've got two more Linux VMs to start experimenting with It's really a simple system to be able to do this and add a server into domain, um It's just setting up windows and setting up all the windows deployment services to join a domain automatically That's a windows domain question. Not really a xcp ng question Microsoft deployment toolkit. Yes That's uh, that would be the way to do it. It's about learning the microsoft tools. They're not exactly relevant to the xcp ng Does the decade site uh site site does decade have site site can look it up a network to another State. Yes, you can use wire guard to Npf sense to do a site to site vpn. I even have a video on that topic You will need to have deployment services and use windows server for that That's another thing too You can set up a windows deployment server and then build things off of a network boot By the way the way you can do that an xcp ng builds your server, which by the way somewhere in here um We have a windows server. It's currently off This is one of our lab servers Our adhd server You boot this server up right here. Actually wow, it's been off for a minute But I boot this server up right here. Then uh, I can run the pxc boot which if you go into the Advanced and you look at network boot You just drag the network booting to the top and enable it and then you build vms That's network boot and they can pull from that server and do the windows deployment and deploy your network So it's absolutely something you can do all within Um xcp and g this is why it's so important to have a home lab that can do all of these fun things Or a virtualization server like xcp and g to deploy them all on and What does this do if I do this? What I need it's not this Network I need to log into it because it's i'm that counsel is too ugly to use How do I share? Just this in a meaningful way. I know how to share things in here Stop sharing share window There we go So this is that vm that's running in here. Actually, let me make it a little bit So it fills the screen a little bit better. It's gonna do Oh, I didn't have much to do no, that's directory. I'll edit that later and fix it See what else you have in here I wish you had a time of really time to stream currently working 800 hours a week and have three 43 hour days and last yeah That I can't help you with Oh, yeah, you can't talk about the stuff in the ea for a unify Do you know if the bhc class vm's import in there or this is to work. What is a bhis class? I don't know what that is Export from vmware import to xcp and g you should be able to export they do have an xcp and g the ability to um Import oba files. So you should be able to import things that are oba Do you use the paid version? Um Yes, we do but not for my videos and there's a reason The reason I don't is because I always want to make people realize that I'm using the community version The reason for this is because I want to make sure this is accessible to you person who may not have any money to buy a license Um, so I do all my demos all my videos unless they're specific about the paid version. I always make sure All of the uh Tools and demo like my restore demo I did the other day and everything is all done with the free You can compile it yourself version It's me making sure that you understand that this is accessible for you If you want to build your lab out of it You want to build it um in your home lab or test it out that these are all accessible features for free And if you're a business and like paid support that is an option I always come from that angle on it. So that's why even everything I'm showing you right here is all done in the free version Uh, well the compiled version Uh, the support is better than good. It's great. So Yeah, the um, they have really solid support So if you want to buy support from them, absolutely you can So it's definitely something um, and it's one of the reasons it's A lot of people like it is the fact that they have commercial support features Uh in my video that i'm uploading right now. That's one of the things I talk about is that aspect of it Yes, I uh finished the Question do I need these vms? We can probably just stop them remove them It's kind of neat though how all of this works in here is it's all just done through a web interface. You spin it all up You can run all your tests build all your uh vms. You can even migrate your vm somewhere else. So Uh, this is on shared storage. This is on This particular server now Actually go over this host How much free ram do we have here? 17 gigs free because we're running a lot of things on this so all right. What if we want to move it? How quick can we migrate this so it's on this server right here? Let's do a migration This is bounced it over here hit okay all right Here here goes a live vm migration not shutting it down not rebooting it just uh live migrating it and seven eight six five four and it's done now it's on the other server That's confirming it does a little check something But if we go back over to it now hey look it's on the other server now The migrations work really nice inside of here if you have a hardware that can support it and move things around and now when we click on this Uh 16 gigs free exit or 14 gigs just yeah more things got spun up on this. Is that a two gig vm? Oh four gigs So something actually must have moved but nonetheless you can see how quick it can move things back and forth Here and we can move it back because let's go here I have a demo where I show that the migration. I did a free pbx system while you're making phone calls Um, I can migrate the server's live. So Let's kick off something running on here like h top So here it is running on this server here and let's just migrate it over Back to the other network hit okay So, you know, this is doing its thing here And it's going to kick off that migration again the other way Uh, as long as you buy two of the same systems You're fine, uh with doing Uh ha so high availability works, but it really really is recommended Uh to work properly that they are two identical machines. So if you get 160 100 buy another one later and no problem You can do ha on it. So Do you think knowledge about shared storage is more usable than clustered storage? Uh, I don't understand the question you're asking Maybe some clarification on that so Not really sure But the vm surely is over on the other place now we've moved it over it's on zennifer r 720 And we can go back to the council nothing restarted. It's still running here Yeah, the migration stuff works so smooth in in vmware, uh, or not vmware in well those work in vmware Well, I don't think vmware is a bad product in terms of its uh ability to migrate Um, but it works really well also in zen orchestra and that's you know Kind of what the topic is here talking about migrations and looking at different systems You can have mixed cpus The cpu flags will be are those supported across the entire cluster, but But let's talk about the exception And i'm not going to break something because I don't feel like fixing it But the big butt comes in when you look at, uh This one right here. So this is running on an r6 30 And it's in the lab pool the lab pool has two servers in it One of them is a ryzen and one of them is not it's a intel base. So, uh, this one's running Intel xeon And the other one in the pool Is running a ryzen So The problem you're going to run into is if you're running a ryzen. Here we go amd ryzen five is It will let you Uh, kind of it'll let me Migrate to the ryzen But it's going to fail and it's going to fail and lock up and crash the vm So when you're dealing with multiple cpus And the the resource pool will downgrade the cpus to the lowest common denominators so you can live migrate them But that's not true when you mix them in different Ryzen and intels. Yes, they can work in the same pool together the same resource pool No, the live migration does not work that will cause you a big headache The solution for that is this so here we're going to stop it So we stopped it on this pool here We're going to go start on and then we're going to go ahead and start it on the ryzen And hit okay We can start and stop it and now have it on another one because the shared resource pool allows that but But you can't do it the um You you're not allowed to do this in Real time you can't just transform across from each other like that when when you have mixed processors. So yes Knowing how serious where it seems to be more practical clustered storage steps where it seems to be less widespread in smaller environments Well, it's not only less widespread. It's not always needed and the guys at 45 drives I think they have a video talking about it why Seth even though they sell a lot of seph solutions is not always the right solutions And there's some challenges when you start doing clustered storage because Clustering the storage does not automatically mean as a matter of fact, it may mean the opposite for you You may get less performance out of it because of the extra layers the cluster may add Doesn't mean you can't buy more hardware to overcome it But is that the goal is it depends on the use case and especially smaller environments? No, you're not likely to see Um seph deployed. It's not necessary in all the environments either People always get over excited about these really cool. I can do this on clustered storage You know, Michael, how are you going to replicate the performance across and you're like, oh, you know I just reshared out windows video and xcp and g and he talks about that in his video about what happens when you have A synchronized solution It has to reduce its speed in iops to as fast as it can sync between the nodes to have certain functions like that work So you you have to either a get faster interact between the nodes to get the synchronization Or b live with less performance and you would get with an individual node So these are really important things to think about when you're designing storage Yeah, that's um Uh That's the kind of the in a nutshell with some of the seph and clustering things that are on there Hopefully that makes some sense Uh, what else did we want to talk about before I wind it down any final questions before I wind the live stream down Smash the like button. There's at least a a request, but hopefully I answered some of your xcp and g questions talked about my lab go to the Overview here's all the things in our lab. Someone asked me about this. I even know a tour of our lab in a while I don't know that those are the most interesting videos Um, because it's not That interesting of a setup really Um, you know, I've seen home users with more advanced setups than I have Uh, frequently on my forums and in twitter. So Uh ours is kind of boring and mostly because we're business use We're just labbing things out all the time for all the stuff's in there Um, you know, we do run inside of here as well, you know, like gray log and bit warden and jump box And this silly thing called tunnel bear, which is a pf sensor someone of my staff came up with So Yeah, we have a few things running in here, but I don't know how much of it. Um, is that exciting overall. So hot sauce review Um Nothing new lately. I haven't had anything new. I keep eating the same hot sauces So I kind of get the ones I like and uh, I keep sticking with them Transistat uad feature and waiting for my workspace to be approved isn't supposed it isn't supposed to be any Oh, it isn't supported on udm se. Good thing. I have a test. Um udm pulling around Pizza possibly my son is actually at my office doing stuff Off topic. I wish crowd strike is coming in pf sense like we did with open sense. Um I don't think you mean crowd strike. Um What else was there here? Oh, you'd ask for a tour. I don't I have all the software we run on there Crowd sec. That's what I figured you meant Got more people no problem Just clear just making sure I'm on the right because maybe I'm wrong and uh, someone's like, oh no crowd strike Has that um It'll be interesting. They're working on an integration for it. It just takes time to get that kind of stuff done So, uh, interesting, but I'm gonna get to finishing uploading and detailing out that vmware versus that video So I have a nice concise 10 minute video not an hour and 10 minute babble of tom talking about stuff. So um the Let's see. What do we have here? Uh, I can't answer all the questions But yeah, the the vmware xcp and g replacement video will be uploaded sometime today Whenever youtube has done processing said video it'll be published And so we can talk about some of those details because I know a lot of people are looking for some vmware alternatives about now But thanks everyone for joining awesome having all of you here. See you next thursday and uh, have a great day Oh, if anyone's going to be at it nation secure, I will be there too So I don't know how many of you that watch this will also be there or watch all the way to the end of the live stream But I will be at it nation secure 2022. Uh, that'll be next week. Thanks and have a great day